The Most Punching at the White House Since....

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand – Episode Summary

Episode Title: The Most Punching at the White House Since...
Date: June 15, 2026

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Episode Overview

This Armstrong & Getty episode dives deep into the breaking and complex news of a new U.S.-Iran agreement under the Trump administration. Hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty dissect the sparse details (and the surrounding media spins) of the deal, muse on the controversial UFC event at the White House, highlight media bias, discuss reactions within the U.S. political spectrum—especially from VP J.D. Vance and Senator Lindsey Graham—and touch on other news from sports riots to youth social media bans. The tone is trademark Armstrong & Getty: skeptical, irreverent, and combative toward herd mentality and media narratives.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Elusive U.S.-Iran Deal

(Main discussion: 04:01–40:32)

• Lack of Concrete Details: Both Armstrong and Getty stress that the actual text is not public and details are vague. Most understandings are based on broad outlines and headlines, not facts.

  • Jack Armstrong: “Very, very few people have seen the actual text of the deal… Apparently the deal is: yeah, the Strait of Hormuz opens immediately… 60-day extension of the ceasefire… then we’ll worry about that whole vexing nuclear situation down the road.” (04:47)

• Media Spin & Polarization: The hosts lampoon both left and right-wing media for drawing conclusions in the absence of facts.

  • Joe Getty: “I have been listening to people either praise the Trump deal or disparage the Trump deal based on no information of what the Trump deal is. Am I missing something?” (12:16)
  • Jack Armstrong: “Their audiences want nothing but yum yum. Whatever side they are, they just want yummy yum yums.” (14:39)

• Critical Linchpins: The nuclear dimension and the handling of sanctions relief are identified as the critical substantiations—but the hosts point out these are precisely what is unknown.

  • Joe Getty: “The whole ball of wax is the details. Do they get money before or after? Do they allow inspections or not?” (12:54)

• Political Analysis and Skepticism:

  • The hosts discuss whether Trump will enforce the deal or if this is just a performative “deal-making.” They highlight the importance of verification and maintaining leverage.
  • Jack Armstrong: “Unless Trump keeps a fist cocked… Iran is going to absolutely go squirrely… So…we will be getting to that.” (05:13)
  • Joe Getty: “If there aren’t snap anywhere, anytime inspections or they start getting lots of money before they’ve followed through… I am ready to go full-on ‘this was a terrible idea and a disastrous deal.’” (37:40)

• VP J.D. Vance’s Role & Congressional Review:

  • Senator Lindsey Graham’s statement shifts accountability to Vance and signals intent for Congressional involvement.
    • “Calling Vance the architect of the deal… You are the architect of this deal. Come to Congress and explain it to us.” — Jack Armstrong (30:50)
  • Graham’s wariness: "I'm somewhat concerned that Iran's view of the agreement seems different than what the American negotiating team is claiming." — Joe Getty (29:42)

• Cynicism About Iranian Compliance:

  • Jack Armstrong: “...the calculation in the IRGC, I’m 100% certain, is... If we can get those first three A’s through, those B’s will finance us for the next six months, then we can do whatever we want.” (33:19)

2. The UFC Event at the White House

(Mentioned throughout: 05:13, 07:13, 15:32)

• Spectacle and Commercialization: Described as the “Trumpiest thing that has ever happened in his presidency”—an event combining politics, showmanship, and product placement, producing horror among traditionalists.

  • Jack Armstrong: “I gotta admit it was an odd look for the White House. But we will discuss that and much more.” (06:10)
  • Joe Getty: “Hey, shout out to Trump for having the balls to put something like this on.” (07:13)

• Controversial Speech: A fighter’s victory speech at the event was notably edited due to a “Michelle Obama is a man” comment, which the hosts found shocking.

  • Jack Armstrong: “That was a heavy edit of that fighter’s victory speech. We will bring you the rest of it. It was controversial to say the least.” (07:31)

3. Media Bias and Echo Chambers

(12:10–15:14)

• Critique of Cable News: The hosts use the Iran deal as an example to show that news channels simply confirm the biases of their audiences.
  • Joe Getty: “Fox: ‘Trump got exactly everything he needed. Iran lost in every way.’ And I thought, what are you talking about?” (14:00)
  • “I don’t want my doctor to do it, I don’t want my wife to do it, I don’t want my boss to tell me everything’s going great and then we go bankrupt Friday.” — Joe Getty (15:14)

4. Headlines & Political News Rundown (with Heather Myers)

(15:32–23:05)

• Heather Myers presents headlines and the hosts riff:

  • Markets React to Iran Deal: Oil prices drop; stock indices spike.

  • UFC Event Cost: “ESPN says UFC at White House a success but never again. Dana White says why: too expensive.” (17:30)

  • 2028 Democratic Polling: Harris reportedly leading (though hosts question poll’s credibility).

  • J.D. Vance to Appear on The View: The hosts mock the forthcoming media confrontation.

    • Jack Armstrong: “A warning to Joy Behar. JD is a bright guy. He is going to expose you gals as the, um, dumbs that you are.” (19:04)

  • Alden Smith’s Death: Brief mention and sadness at his troubled life.

  • Sports Riots: Knicks victory leads to arson and arrests; hosts bemoan “anonymity of crowds.”

  • Goblintimacy: A viral Gen Z dating concept—honesty about your “baggage” on date one.

5. Listener Mailbag & Meta-Observations on Wealth, Society, and Negotiation

(44:10–49:04)

• Wealth & Elon Musk Becoming a Trillionaire: The hosts preview a debate on whether Musk’s personal fortune is evidence of societal failure or success.

  • Joe Getty: “Is it just awful that Elon became a trillionaire when we’ve got so many hungry people in America? Oh, shut up.” (40:20)

• Negotiation & War: They stress the necessity of credible threats in negotiations; analogies to the Iran deal.

6. Memorable Quotes

• “Their audiences want nothing but yum yum. Whatever side they are, they just want yummy yum yums.” — Jack Armstrong (14:39)
• “I don’t want my doctor to do it. I don’t want my wife to do it. I don’t want my boss to tell me everything’s going great and then we go bankrupt Friday. Well, I didn’t want to tell you because, you know, it was bad.” — Joe Getty (15:14)
• “Calling Vance the architect of the deal got a lot of people’s attention. He’s not hanging this around Trump’s neck. He’s hanging it around Vance’s neck.” — Jack Armstrong (30:50)
• “We haven’t beaten the bully. We’ve punched him a couple of times and said, ‘Hey, do you want to talk about stuff?’” — Joe Getty (48:10)

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Notable Timestamps

• 04:01 – Analysis begins: the metaphor for the Iran deal as a contentious athlete contract.
• 07:13 – UFC fighter’s edited speech at the White House; controversy.
• 12:10 – Meta-media analysis: how both sides spin the incomplete Iran deal story.
• 15:32 – Heather Myers’ headline round-up: coverage of the deal, sports riots, political news.
• 29:02 – Hosts read and analyze Lindsey Graham’s statement on the Iran deal.
• 33:19 – Armstrong explains Iran’s likely strategy in leveraging the deal.
• 37:40 – Joe Getty’s bottom line: inspections, timing, and money are the tests of the deal’s substance.
• 44:10 – Mailbag: listener views on Musk’s fortune, crowd violence, election participation.
• 48:10 – Debate preview: Does immense wealth like Musk’s benefit or harm society?

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Tone & Style

• Language/Tone: Informal, skeptical, often irreverent, with a focus on critical thinking and robust mockery of mainstream narratives.
• Dynamics: The hosts frequently bounce from serious political analysis to humor and pop culture, keeping the show lively.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode provides a sharp, often sardonic breakdown of a historic but opaque diplomatic moment, refusing to follow the partisan chorus and instead urging skepticism and caution. If you want a play-by-play of what’s really known—and what’s merely spin—about the U.S.-Iran deal and a taste of Armstrong & Getty’s no-holds-barred banter, this is essential listening. The broader implication: beware the echo chamber, ask for transparency, and don’t mistake pageantry for substance.

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[Joe Getty]

Hi.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I didn't need this. I was not mentally prepared for this. As I tweeted over the weekend, it was Judy and my 40th anniversary weekend and so we made merry and ate dinner and took walks and it was absolutely wonderful. And I pretty much ignored the news, although I am told that there is a nascent deal between the United States and Iran. And my reference to Ben Franklin in the Constitutional Convention was because I was thinking about the nature of this thing. Here's a metaphor for you because I love metaphors. You have a superstar athlete for your team. And the contract negotiations have become very, very contentious. And there are headlines and claims and counterclaims. He's flirting with other teams. The owner says something he probably shouldn't have said, everybody's butt hurt. He walks out, he holds out and find finally, at the end of it all, finally, they announced we have reached a deal with superstar Jones and he's back with your team. Right. Okay, now they gotta play the games. This is just the beginning of seeing whether Iran sticks with the deal or.

[Joe Getty]

Or not.

[Jack Armstrong]

But presumably, apparently, and it's funny, very, very few people have seen the extra actual text of the deal. Apparently the deal is, yeah, the straits and or straight of Hormuz open immediately. The naval blockade is opened immediately. There is a 60 day extension of the ceasefire. We'll get to the Israel Hezbollah situation in a second and the oil can begin flowing through the strait and the world economy is saved. And we'll worry about that whole vexing nuclear situation down the road, which is, that's the part where the games really have to be played. And unless Trump keeps a fist cocked, not unlike the mixed martial art UFC fight on the White House lawn yesterday, unless he keeps that fist cocked, Iran is going to absolutely go squirrely. They're going to go sideways. I mean, it's, you don't even, that's not even a claim. That's just a fact. It's a truism. So anyway, we will be getting to that. The deal, the festivities on the White House lawn, if you did not see those, and I actually didn't live, I just watched the headlights, the. I'm sorry, the highlights as it was my anniversary and game six of the Stanley cup finals and I am a Carolina Hurricanes fan. So I was watching that instead. But it was, it was something, it was crazy. It was so. It may be the Trumpiest thing that has ever happened in his presidency. And of course, the usual suspects are absolutely beside themselves with pain and anguish and disgust at how, how unprecedented it was. And frankly, it was unbelievably commercialized. There were advertising messages everywhere. I didn't use the porta potties, but I'm sure there ads running in the porta potties. And I got to admit it was an odd look for the White House. But we will discuss that and much more. Why don't we begin the show officially now according to FCC rules and regulations. Here we go at Mark.

[Joe Getty]

Hey, shout out to Trump for having the balls to put some like this on. And lastly, Michelle Obama is a man.

[Jack Armstrong]

Am I right, America?

[Joe Getty]

Wow,

[Jack Armstrong]

that was a heavy edit of that fighter's victory speech. We will bring you the rest of it. It was controversial to say the least. Why don't we take a break. We'll see if we can get our technical gremlins rounded up and done away with and we'll have Jack in moments. Armstrong and Getty Show Got our headlines next. Stay with us. Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, I. I just analyzed the defense. I didn't get to the game, you know, writ large. You know, I have spent most of

[Joe Getty]

my pre show news time. I don't. Maybe you talked about this, maybe you didn't a few minutes ago. And we're about to go to Heather. But I have been listening to people either praise the Trump deal or disparage the Trump deal based on no information of what the Trump deal is. Am I missing something?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, that's. That's freeing. Don't you say if you have no facts to get in the way, you can just let loose?

[Joe Getty]

Am I wrong or the details not out yet?

[Jack Armstrong]

They're. They're absolutely not. I mean, the broad outlines are, but just the broad outlines.

[Joe Getty]

But that doesn't tell you anything.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know.

[Joe Getty]

The whole ball of wax is the details. The entire ball of wax is do they get money before or after? Do they allow inspections or not? That's the whole ball of wax. And if it's on the right side of things, I will praise this. And if it's on the wrong side of things, I'm going to be horrified. But I don't have any idea. Neither do you. So what the hell are they doing on various podcasts and cable news channels?

[Jack Armstrong]

My take, briefly stated, was I made a longish metaphor about trying to sign your star player to a contract and he gets contention, anxious and ugly, and he walks out and blah, blah, blah, and then finally, after weeks of effort, you sign the contract.

[Joe Getty]

All right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Now you got to play the games. This is the beginning of the process of finding peace with Iran. Who knows what happens from here? Well, cheating and obfuscation and lying and all sorts of stuff will happen. But yeah, yeah, the details are everything. And then the unfolding of the process is everything. So to praise it or condemn it at this point is just silly.

[Joe Getty]

Everybody's doing it. I haven't heard really hardly anybody other than Mark Alpert in his newsletter say, we don't know what it is yet. So don't know what, what to say about it. Man, msnbc, I was flipping around yesterday. Cnn and MSNBC has given my kids a lesson in media. As we were running errands, we're just beside themselves with, can't believe that this is the deal. After all that, after all the money spent after lives lost, this is what we got. And I thought, what are you talking about? But then over on Fox, it was Trump got exactly everything he needed. Iran lost in every way. And I thought, what are you talking about? Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

These, these.

[Jack Armstrong]

These are companies with a lot at stake, too. They have done the studies, they have read the surveys. Their audiences want nothing but yum yum. Whatever side they are, they just want yummy yum yums.

[Joe Getty]

That's the last thing I want. I don't want you to tell me this is a great deal or a bad deal and then find out later it's the opposite or that you don't actually know. That makes no sense. What would I get out of that? It's just that the pleasure of being

[Jack Armstrong]

stroked, of having your priors reconfirmed, as they say, I. I don't get it either. Just as a human being, I don't want my doctor to do it.

[Joe Getty]

I don't want my wife to do it. Your boss?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I don't.

[Joe Getty]

My boss to tell me everything's going great and then we go bankrupt Friday. Well, I didn't want to tell you because, you know, it was bad. What?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, we'll see

[Joe Getty]

Heather's headlines. We doing that or you think.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I wasn't sure how long we wanted to go before we launched in. Hey, Heather, we realize we've come to you a bit earlier than usual, so just, you know, do your thing and if it ends before the end of the segment, that's perfectly fine. We're gonna figure out who's reporting what. It's lead story with Heather Myers. Hello, Heather.

[Heather Myers]

Well, hello, Joe and Jack. Happy Monday. So let's find out how the networks are covering the Iran story that you were just talking about. Let's start with cnn. Trump and Iran say agreement to be signed on Friday. From the New York Times, U.S. iran Framework brings relief but challenges loom. From ABC News, Israel won't leave Lebanon after US Iran agreement.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, we don't know that part of the deal either. I don't think it was a good start yesterday when Trump puts out his truth social post that says the straight is open and then 20 minutes later, 20 minutes later he puts out a truth social post that says the straight will open Friday. Oh, what was that 20 minutes ago when you said the straight is now open?

[Jack Armstrong]

Why did you say that?

[Joe Getty]

That makes it look kind of half cocked. If you say the straight is now open then 20 minutes later say the straight will open Friday. That was sloppy.

[Heather Myers]

There's more headlines regarding that same story from CNN. Oil prices fall on U.S. iran agreement. And from Yahoo News, Dow S&P 500 Nasdaq futures soar on U.S. iran pack to reopen Hormuz.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I was, I was listening to some of the news yesterday and the pre trading Brent crude, whatever thing oil was. But did you know oil at least yesterday after the announcement and went down a little bit. Is it like $81 a barrel?

[Jack Armstrong]

Remember all that stuff about $100 barrel

[Joe Getty]

oil and the most expensive oil in history and which wasn't Even true at $100 adjusted for inflation. It's been hovering around the mid-80s now for weeks. I didn't know that nobody was talking about that.

[Heather Myers]

Okay, this is the other story that took place last night. And then a little bit later I'm going to get to some more sports headlines but ESPN says UFC at White House a success but never again. Dana White says why too expensive.

[Joe Getty]

He said too expensive.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, setting up that whole outdoor stadium and yeah, I'll bet it was expensive.

[Joe Getty]

Well, it was supposed to be a big giant, you know, once every 250 years sort of celebration, wasn't it?

[Heather Myers]

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We may not have to worry about that again anytime soon. From the New York Post this morning, bombshell, new poll for Democratic 2028 presidential candidates released and come a Harris is miles ahead.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I don't know this poll though. I've never heard of this poll debut.

[Heather Myers]

We're going to see a lot of polls.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I try to only pay attention to polls I believe and I've never heard of them.

[Heather Myers]

From Fox news, Vice President J.D. vance will appear on the View after host condemn him for years.

[Joe Getty]

Oh Spicy. Yeah, he'll get into it.

[Heather Myers]

He's gonna sit at their table tomorrow. So we'll be watching for that.

[Joe Getty]

Lindsey Graham throwing J.D. vance into the this is all your doings situation yesterday on Twitter. We got to talk about that. That's a major development, I think, in this.

[Jack Armstrong]

On what topic?

[Joe Getty]

On the war.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, J.D.

[Joe Getty]

you put this together. And J. And Lindsey Graham. Big Trump guy, but big time hawk on Iran. Beyond skeptical about this being a good deal.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Interesting. I hate that you distracted us from the more important story, which is JD Vance being on the View. A warning to Joy Behar. JD Is a bright guy. He is going to expose you gals as the, um, dumbs that you are.

[Joe Getty]

This isn't like arguing with Whoopi Goldberg.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, indeed.

[Heather Myers]

All right, let's get back to some sports headlines here. This one's a tough one. NBC News reporting that former 49ers All Pro linebacker Alden Smith has died at the age of 36.

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6.

[Joe Getty]

Found in his car. Dead with his mouth hanging open.

[Heather Myers]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. He had led a troubled life. That young man had really problems with substances. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

All pro early in his career. The 49ers and others. And just went off the rails. Couldn't quit the drugs.

[Heather Myers]

Man from espn, the jock, the nerd and the Stanley Cup Championship. Joe.

[Jack Armstrong]

See your shirts.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Go Hurricanes. I'm a Kaniak. Absolutely. There's a great, great story connected to the Stanley Cup Final. I'll tell you later. It's about not. Not take two. It's not about hockey, Jack. It's about human beings. Stay with us. Well, so human beings play hockey.

[Joe Getty]

The team plays out of what city?

[Jack Armstrong]

The whole Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill area. So did the Research Triangle, they call it.

[Joe Getty]

So did they burn the city down over the weekend like New York attempted to do after the Knicks won Friday night?

[Jack Armstrong]

They probably hoisted a microbrew and went back to class in that part of the world or back to their tech jobs.

[Joe Getty]

I was trying to talk to my kids about that yesterday. They couldn't understand why we allow city buses to be burnt to the ground because your team wins a basketball game. I said, I don't know either. I don't know why we allow that.

[Heather Myers]

Well, that brings me to my other sports headline. CNN. A night of raw emotion and chaos. 63 arrested as Knicks fans celebrate NBA championship.

[Joe Getty]

I know I've said this after every championship for, like, 20 some years. When does society decide that if your team wins, you get to destroy a whole bunch of property the taxpayers then

[Jack Armstrong]

need to replace and I've said this for at least 13 of those years. It's the anonymity of crowds, the effort, the violence that it would take to subdue all of that mayhem. Casinos. That's too much.

[Joe Getty]

I think he shoots the first person that tries to set a bus on fire and nobody ever does it again.

[Jack Armstrong]

Brutality.

[Heather Myers]

From Fox News, Britain to ban under 16 year olds from using social media.

[Joe Getty]

They want 16 year olds to vote. They're working on that. So they think you're old enough to make decisions to vote but not to be on social media.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's interesting. Britain is crumbling. We need to have metal guy do it in the style of, I don't know, one of your great British metal bands.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Heather Myers]

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[Joe Getty]

I don't know how insurance rates could rise.

[Heather Myers]

Yeah, that, that is going to be ugly.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right.

[Heather Myers]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Heather Myers]

From USA Today, daters are showing their ugly side and calling it goblintimacy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Goblintimacy.

[Joe Getty]

You gotta explain that. What?

[Jack Armstrong]

What's gonna.

[Heather Myers]

So instead of putting on your best face forward on your first date, you tell them about all of the baggage that you have on date one and the goblins that are in your closets.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, we gotta get it out of the way. That's an interesting idea. We'll talk about that later.

[Heather Myers]

And finally this morning, from the Babylon be Elon Musk credits trillionaire status to Dave Ramsey envelope system.

[Joe Getty]

I want to talk about the debate that occurred in America about Elon becoming a trillionaire over the weekend. What an interesting topic that is. We have a disagreement. People. Among other things. On the way. Stay here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Gettysburg.

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behind the scenes of what that moment was like Leading up to this deal actually being signed.

[Jack Armstrong]

After the Israelis struck Beirut, we were very worried and we saw a lot of evidence that the Iranians were going to look launch a large number of missiles at the Israelis. With our communication with them over the course of getting to this, to this signed peace deal, they assured us that they were not going to respond to the Israelis and they were going to sign this agreement and get to peace. Now, of course, you always have to verify these things, Trey. And we know that there are a lot of people in the Middle east who do not want to make this deal happen.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'd say so. That's J.D. vance. He called into Fox. I actually heard that yesterday live as all the news was breaking. Trump with a Truth Social post that we have a deal pieces, pieces at hand. And what was his quote? I just went to truth Social and tried to read it, but truth social is so gummed up with ads it's almost impossible to use. Anyway, he said, gentlemen, you know, boats, start your motors or something like that. The straight of Hormuz is open. Then 20 minutes later, the post was, this Friday it will open up for business. Okay, not immediately this Friday, but I still don't get what is happening at all. So I don't know how to, you know, feel good about it or bad about it since the big, big questions of do they start getting billions of dollars of relief before they give over their nuclear dust and allow inspections and all that sort of stuff or not? And then are there inspections, snap inspections anywhere, anytime, inspections that the Obama deal did not have, or is it gonna be similar to the Obama deal where they get like a month's heads up to move stuff out of the way before you show up, that that's the whole ball game, man.

[Jack Armstrong]

It just occurred to me the difference between the way you just described it and virtually everyone else, including some folks I respect, you are focused on the issue of nuclear disarmament, which was the whole point of the thing. Everybody else has gotten caught up in the straits of Hormuz and then, you know, sanctions and the rest of it.

[Joe Getty]

Well, the straight of Hormuz argument seems like a bad thing to focus on since it was open before the war started. So gloating about it being open seems a little weird.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's a fairly common bit of analysis. Yes. Anyway, what have we got?

[Joe Getty]

So this is what Lindsey Graham, very influential senator from South Carolina, posted yesterday. Um, less his heart. He, he's been pretty dang trumpy, but he is a hawk at heart. At heart, he is A we gotta protect the United States from bad guys. That's his. That's his. That's what gets him out of bed every morning. This is what he posted. I'm pleased to hear the memorandum of understanding with Iran to allow the Strait of Hormuz to open has been agreed to. I will be watching closely the ensuing negotiations regarding Iran's nuclear program and other matters.

[Jack Armstrong]

So Lindsey Graham's a straight guy letting it hang there. He says straight instead of straights. That's what I mean.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, okay. I'm somewhat concerned that Iran's view of the agreement seems different than what the American negotiating team is claiming.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's somewhat concerned. Are you, Lindsay?

[Joe Getty]

That's a heck of a thing to post in the midst of all this breaking news yesterday afternoon. I'm somewhat bothered that what you're saying the deal is is different than what they say the deal is. So I mean that even. Even if you're saying we're being honest, the fact that the other side is still being dishonest means you ain't got much of a deal until both sides are willing to state the same thing. There's a problem.

[Jack Armstrong]

At the very least, you're stating that every single step in this process is going to be very difficult and contentious, which it will be.

[Joe Getty]

He goes on to say, and I thought this was quite the hammer blow. Under our law, any nuclear deal with Iran will be sent to Congress for review and a vote. In other words, you ain't doing this on your own.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Congress needs to see every senatorial pride.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right?

[Joe Getty]

I look forward to reviewing the final product. And I believe it is imperative that the architect of the deal, Vice President Vance and his negotiating partners, be part of the process and presenting the final deal to Congress. Calling Vance the architect of the deal got a lot of people's attention. He's not hanging this around Trump's neck. He's hanging it around Vance's neck. Like you are the architect of this deal. Come to Congress and explain it to us.

[Jack Armstrong]

What. What do you think motivated him, phrasing it that way?

[Joe Getty]

I think he doesn't.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Trump.

[Joe Getty]

I. I think he just flat out doesn't want to say. I think Lindsey Graham believes this is a bad deal, and he doesn't want to flat out say Trump made a bad deal and he sent a signal

[Jack Armstrong]

to the White House. I am going to not hold back on my criticism of this deal, but I'll make it about JD and not you, sir. Yes, sir.

[Joe Getty]

And I'll. And I'll put it in front of the Senate. And we can discuss it that way as opposed to just going on a cable news show and saying, you know,

[Jack Armstrong]

you suck, but we'll hold hearings.

[Joe Getty]

We've got a process for this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. It's a treaty.

[Joe Getty]

I'm. I think that's awesome. I'm happy to see it. That should be the way we do. Big, major deals, major things going on in the world should happen through our Congress.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

With debates.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anytime Congress reasserts its authority, it's a good thing. I think, virtually anytime. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

But to me, what do you think? You think I read that right? I think Lindsey Graham believes that this isn't gonna be something he's in favor of or he's at least worried about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. I think for the reasons that I've repeated over and over again, the idea that we can trust them to do anything or execute any part of the deal without A, just the most rigorous sort of verification, and B, the cocked fist ready to throw the next hammer blow when they inevitably cheat and lie. Without those two things, no deal is worth a damn.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and you got to hold back the money until they've done the stuff they say they're going to do. If they start getting billions of dollars of relief before they've given up the highly enriched uranium or any of the other stuff they're supposed to do, then what the hell. Then what is going on here? Because they're gonna immediately try to scramble and get a bomb and rebuild the rocket system.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I suspect that it will be structured in a series of abab, and all the A's will be. If you do that, then B, you get this reward. But, but the calculation in the IRGC, I'm 100% certain of this. Is that all right? If we can get those first three A's through those B's will finance us for the next six months, then we can do whatever we want. Trump will no way be willing to go back to war. And then we were.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Then we get back to building the nuclear program, et cetera, et cetera. That's what they're calculating. Before they give up anything truly precious, they will get enough relief to go back to business as usual.

[Joe Getty]

Right now, I saw Pete Hegseth on one of the shows yesterday saying, look, we, we are not, you know, pulling back very much. We're still going to be in the neighborhood and ready to crank this back up the war machine any moment we want to. God, Trump wasn't willing to do that a month ago. I can't imagine him doing it, shortly before November when the elections happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nobody's saying Paco. Pete. Pete always chickens out. It's, it's Trump. So he's, he's, he's the one making the call.

[Joe Getty]

Nobody is saying Paco because nobody knows what a Paco is. But everybody knows what a taco is. I had one this weekend.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a good point. Yeah. Do you think Iran leaves us hanging

[Julian Edelman]

on Friday in Switzerland?

[Joe Getty]

I wonder about that. I wonder if, if, if there's even a signing.

[Jack Armstrong]

That would, that would be extra bold. That would be an indication. Would you like to bet money right

[Joe Getty]

now on whether or not a signing ceremony happens on Friday?

[Jack Armstrong]

Ten United States dollars.

[Joe Getty]

I don't think it does. Something gets gummed up between now and Friday.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

They're gonna claim we moved the goal posts. We're gonna claim they probably rightly, that they didn't come through on something they promised, but.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

I'll be shocked if there's actually some sort of signing on Friday.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the hard ass who's in charge of the IRGC at this point, whose name escapes me. I'll dig it up later. It's long and you'd forget it immediately. Anyway. I could absolutely see him because the profile I read of him said he is a merciless MFer. Okay. I could see him saying, let's try that. No show on the signing. We'll, we'll claim some semi legitimate reason. Let's no show and see the reaction. If the reaction is he goes, 800 pound gorilla, we say, well, got it ironed up and we show up the next day, totally pacify him. But if he shows any more weakness, fellas. All right, then we move to plan B. I'll bet that's what he's thinking.

[Joe Getty]

And every day that goes by is good for Iran. Gets us closer to the election, gets closer to Trump not being in office, gets further into the summer with people being unhappy about gas prices. Every day that goes by only helps Iran. It doesn't help the United States. So if they can even, if they can even say, you know, our guy is sick, so can we make it Monday instead of Friday? Anything?

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Yeah. Yeah, Jack, you're gonna like this one. But we've got to be ready to unleash the dogs of war. But what if the dogs of war are getting older and their health isn't great? You ought to take a look at Rough Greens, America's number one dog supplement. You sprinkle right on their food.

[Joe Getty]

Wouldn't that be horrible if the Dogs of War Were not getting live probiotics and enzymes.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Use that discount code Armstrong. Whether you have a dog of war or the regular kind that kind of pants and wags its tail,

[Joe Getty]

man, I'm, I am, I am ready to go full on. This was a terrible idea and a disastrous deal. If there aren't snap anywhere, anytime inspections or they start getting lots of money before they've followed through on their end at all, or if it ends up they're charging tolls in the Strait of Hormuz from here on out. Yeah, I'm fully willing to go spend the rest of my life saying that's the worst deal any president's ever made.

[Jack Armstrong]

Eli Lake, who writes for the Free Press and is absolutely brilliant. His headline is Trump Gives Iran a Lifeline and Calls it Peace. Subhead. On his 80th birthday, President Trump is celebrating an agreement that temporarily solves a problem his war helped create. Well, maybe I think that's a little dismissive. Depends how the whole steps down the line toward nuclear disarmament. Look, that's the whole question.

[Joe Getty]

It's still possible that no, they are going to allow inspections. No, they have to turn over their highly enriched uranium before they get any money. They have to do this, they have to do that and they follow through because they actually are to the point of they had to give up. That's still possible.

[Jack Armstrong]

With apologies for using a fancy word. I wonder if the Eli Lakes of the world are responding to the triumphalism of the announcement and some of the people around Trump who are hailing it as just a breakthrough and all the leaders who are gathering at the G7, I think today in Geneva are praising Trump for making the deal and everything, blah, blah. So I think just commentators are saying, well, what are you people talking about? So they're coming off, it's more negative because of the triumphalism.

[Joe Getty]

How about this? We got to take a break for the mailbag. But how about those who say if this was a good deal, wouldn't they let us see the details? What kind of deal? I forget which historian I like was was tweeting about this yesterday. What kind of deal? Do they not let you know when has there ever been a major deal, but they won't tell you what the details are? When does that ever happen?

[Jack Armstrong]

Why would that is odd. Are they still in flux?

[Joe Getty]

Well, if they're in flux, there's not a deal.

[Jack Armstrong]

We've made deals before.

[Joe Getty]

If you haven't agreed on major terms, you don't have a deal.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's all settled.

[Joe Getty]

We'll just.

[Jack Armstrong]

We'll talk about pay down the road.

[Joe Getty]

What? You know, I like that kind of deal. Yes, Michael.

[Julian Edelman]

Iran signs a deal with disappearing ink.

[Joe Getty]

There you go. That'd be a good trick.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, we got a classic.

[Joe Getty]

I really do want to talk later about. Is it just awful that Elon became a trillionaire when we've got so many hungry people in America?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, shut up.

[Joe Getty]

Or how it took money out of your pocket. Him becoming a trillionaire, which seems to be a prevailing thought among a bunch of morons.

[Jack Armstrong]

People learn what they're taught. They've been taught that at school. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Marxism is winning super interesting discussions online over the weekend. And I screen captured a bunch of them. We can get into that later. Mailbag next. Stay here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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Joe and I were having a discussion during the commercials. I was trying to remember what clever phrase came up during the pandemic for not working much on Mondays. It was a it was pushback against the Sunday scaries Bare Minimum Mondays where you come in and barely work. And I guarantee you the crowd that embraced Bare Minimum Mondays were the people that were online acting like Elon Musk becoming richer made them poorer. Guaranteed that that crowd overlaps.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Yeah, I would agree with that. You know what I'm looking for a good, freedom loving quote of the day. On the topic of negotiation, not sure I get this one. Any negotiation has a limit. Otherwise war is irrelevant. Now I think that relates directly. Any negotiation has a limit, otherwise war is irrelevant. If you could negotiate everything, there would never be any war. Is Trump willing to bring the hammer?

[Joe Getty]

No,

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[Joe Getty]

And I don't see how you ever get a good deal if the other side knows you will not pull the trigger. I think that's what Iran's counting on, but we'll see. We don't know the details.

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Yeah, yeah. Mailbag. Drop us a note. Mailbagarmstrongetty.com let's begin with silly stuff. Number of people. Excuse me? Damn allergies. A number of people enjoyed the whole Buffalo. Buffaloes. Buffalo. Buffalo. Brain teaser. I have another one for you. The answer is Chili's Chili. Chili Chili Chili. It answers the age old question. Name a hearty cult soup made from peppers grown in the Andes and served at a popular chain restaurant. Chili's Chili. Chile Chili chili. Thank you for that. Let's see. How about how to deal with sports violence. Should have rounded up those bus burners and hanged them at the White House just as the flyover went overhead. Would have put a stop to that behavior.

[Joe Getty]

Fine with me. I'm a looter shooter.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it's basically looting. Then you got this from Mark. My idea of preventing damage at sports victory rallies is to bring back water cannons and flush those culprits into the gutter where they belong. There's some tough talk. I enjoyed it. Let's see. Sorry. Rearranging. Let's see. This is from DG guys on Friday you were talking about Barbarians are already inside the gate, the Marxists are winning, they've taken over education, etc. You need to start asking your listening audience to start voting in every local election, no matter how small or insignificant it may seem to be. We have done that actually. School boards and like DA's or county attorneys. Really, really important. We've got to be beware of the Red Green alliance that's threatening our way of life here in America. We must never let someone else choose our local officials for us. Like your spirit friend. Let's see. Musk's Trillions. Trillion is different, right? Trying from Houston with a busted car, Dear Cold Warrior and old Fancy Jack. Can members of the federal government and other socialists tell us how Elon Musk's trillions will solve all the ills of the world and not the trillions that have flowed through the government year after year. And he points out that Elon is an ant compared to the anteater that is the federal government.

[Joe Getty]

We're going to get into the details on this later because I screen captured a lot of the arguments on both sides. But all y' all don't complain when the government invests in green programs that make no jobs, no tax money, and accomplish nothing. You're fine with that. You invest in SpaceX, where they're paying gazillions of taxes, accomplishing all kinds of

[Jack Armstrong]

things that we want, creating thousands and thousands of jobs. Thousands of jobs. Yeah, yeah, but you're mad about that. Okay, let's see. On the topic of Iran, Joseph writes, I understand a deal has been reached. My question is, why do we have to give Iran all that money when they already have so much oil? It's like getting into a fight with a bully. You don't take him out to dinner after you've beaten him. Well, that's the problem. We haven't beaten the bully. We've punched him a couple of times and said, hey, do you want to talk about stuff? Let's see. POTUS has balls but no backbone, writes very reasonable. Amani Where I'm sitting From where I'm sitting, Trump is looking like an absolute chump who had the balls to pull the trigger on starting this military action in Iran, but appears to lack the backbone to finish it. Now that things are getting a little rough. We're out of time, but more thoughts on that topic coming up.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I needed the the details to fully weigh in on that conversation, which I don't know when we get the details and why are they keeping them from us?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's weird.

[Joe Getty]

Give us a segment.

[Jack Armstrong]

Get the podcast Armstrong and Getty

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