The Nuts of Apathy

Summary

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Episode: The Nuts of Apathy

Date: May 11, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

In this episode, "The Nuts of Apathy," Armstrong & Getty take an acerbic look at the way the media fans public fear (this time over the so-called hantavirus cruise ship outbreak), contrast that with more pressing national issues, and call out both government ineptitude and cultural malaise. From clickbait headlines to California’s political woes and the Met Gala’s glitzy excesses, the duo combine sharp parody, frustration over public ignorance, and their signature riff-heavy banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Media Outrage and Manufactured Fear (03:12–07:19)

• Hantavirus Media Frenzy:

  • The hosts lampoon mainstream media for hyping the cruise ship hantavirus incident. Jack mocks the breathless coverage:

    “Oh, my God. The passengers are in the United States now. We're all going to die...” (03:20, Jack Armstrong)

  • Joe skewers the performative panic seen on Sunday talk shows:

    “They're about to close schools for copulating with a rodent.” (03:47, Joe Getty)

  • Both question if the supposed public fear even exists, or if it’s a narrative the media creates for ratings:

    “Is anybody scared?...Or did you just make that up completely?” (05:17, Jack Armstrong)

• Clickbait and Grift:

  • Joe sums up the modern news cycle:

    “Everything is clickbait and everything is a grift and nobody's ever tuned out of ‘You're in danger.’” (07:02, Joe Getty)

Notable Quote

“Like most stews, Jack, I think this one has a number of delicious ingredients, including the tendency of people on the left to really like being scared.” (05:34, Joe Getty)

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2. Distracting Headlines and Societal Priorities (07:19–09:02)

• The hosts take detours into other ridiculous headlines, such as “backward leg syndrome,” to illustrate just how bizarre and click-driven the news has become.

  • Joe jokes:

    “Backward leg syndrome claiming more legs across America. We’ll talk to the Secretary of State.” (08:11, Joe Getty)

• They mourn the focus on manufactured crises and mock how breathless panic attracts attention over substantive news, like the national debt surpassing GDP.

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3. California’s Troubles: Free Diapers, Gas Prices & Political ‘Failing Up’ (09:02–23:41)

A. Government "Freebies" and Critique (15:13–17:45)

• Free Diapers for Newborns:

  • California will distribute 40 million free diapers to new mothers—a plan meant to ease family burdens, but the hosts rip into its cost and cronyism:

    “Roughly eight times the cost of buying diapers at Costco to line the pockets of his cronies. The diapers aren't the point. The money is the point.” (16:55, Joe Getty)

• They highlight how programs like this are praised without anyone asking the cost, efficiency, or who really benefits:

  “How do you end up in a place where nobody thinks about who's paying for them and how it gets distributed and whether that's a good idea?” (17:17, Jack Armstrong)

B. California’s Growing Policy Woes

• Gas Prices:

  • The state’s hostility to oil production and reliance on imports is making gas prices soar:

    “California is more dependent on crude oil shipments from the Middle East than any other US state... the average gas price for regular in California is already $6.16. Diesel is $7.50 and higher.” (19:41, Joe Getty)

• Political ‘Failing Up’:

  • They dissect how political figures “fail upward,” focusing on Javier Becerra—deemed unqualified but leading the gubernatorial race:

    “I'd never worked with anybody who had less accomplishment to them than this guy.” (23:15, Jack Armstrong, quoting Politico)

• Underlying Theme:

  • Repeated frustration at the electorate’s apathy and lack of critical thinking:

    “He kept failing up and he may have failed his way up to being governor of the biggest state…” (23:37, Jack Armstrong)

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4. Cultural Critiques & Social Commentary (26:29–39:16)

A. Celebrity Distraction: Met Gala (26:29–27:11)

• Satirizing celebrity excess as the country faces real problems:

  “Let's all prance around in our hundred thousand dollar clown outfits and watch the American empire crumble.” (26:29, Joe Getty)

B. Religious Illiteracy on Campus (27:17–28:44)

• The hosts discuss Princeton research showing elite students’ ignorance of the Bible:

  “A student who lacks a working familiarity with the Old and New Testaments is cut off from culture, history and knowledge of Western civilization.” (27:59, Jack Armstrong, quoting Tim Sandifer)

C. Antidepressant Use by Demographic (29:49–33:15)

• Analysis of new CDC stats showing much higher usage among white women (almost 23%) than other groups.
• Joe argues progressive pessimism contributes:

  “Progressive politics is a never ending doom loop... relentless negativity because how else are you going to overthrow Western civilization?” (30:41, Joe Getty)

• They discuss how negativity, whether in news or workplaces, erodes mental health and motivation.

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5. Baby Name Trends (34:08–36:16)

• The most popular girls’ names: “Eight of the top ten end with an -a.” (34:21, Jack Armstrong)
• The top male names return to classic Americana: Oliver, Henry, James, William, etc.

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6. "There Ain't No Free Lunch" & The Economics of Apathy (36:28–40:42)

• The hosts recall school lessons on the meaning of “There ain't no free lunch,” tying it to present-day economic ignorance.

• They lament the public’s failure to understand that “free” government programs are funded by taxpayers (38:11–39:09).

  “The next layer [of ignorance] is some sort of belief that free is—the government pays for them. They do not connect taxpayer money to the government pays for it.” (38:45–39:09, Jack Armstrong)

• Joe dubs this the “parfait of ignorance with the nuts of apathy sprinkled,” (38:49, Joe Getty), encapsulating their central frustration with civic disengagement.

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7. Classic Armstrong & Getty Banter: Summer Plans & Giant Food Challenges (41:02–47:57)

• Jack shares a family plan: seeking out restaurants with outrageous food challenges:

  "He wants to go to one of those restaurants somewhere where you eat a ridiculous portion of something and get like a T-shirt or your picture on the wall..." (11:17, Jack Armstrong)

• They discuss famous examples—72-ounce steak in Texas, ridiculous crab challenges, oyster eating in New Orleans, etc.

• Joe asks:

  “Now, I would never step on your son's dreams, but honestly, how's his game?” (45:29, Joe Getty)

• The segment is full of dad humor and camaraderie, ending the episode on a light note.

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Memorable Quotes

• On media fearmongering:

  “Why are you assuming that this is the question on everybody's mind? Because I don't think it is.” – Jack Armstrong (06:13)

• On California’s political system:

  “He kept failing up and he may have failed his way up to being governor of the biggest state…” – Jack Armstrong (23:37)

• On economic ignorance:

  “Parfait of ignorance with nuts on top with the nuts of apathy sprinkled.” – Joe Getty (38:49)

• On progressive negativity:

  “Progressive politics is a never ending doom loop. It is a never end expression that the world is oppression... a never ending force feeding of terrible sadness about the state of the world.” – Joe Getty (30:41)

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Important Timestamps

• Media & Hantavirus Coverage: 03:12–07:19
• Clickbait & Absurd Headlines: 07:19–09:02
• California: Free Diapers, Gas Woes, Political Leadership: 15:13–23:41
• Met Gala & Cultural Decline: 26:29–27:11
• Religious Illiteracy in Higher Ed: 27:17–28:44
• Antidepressant Stats & Analysis: 29:49–33:15
• Baby Name Trends: 34:08–36:16
• Economic Ignorance/"Free Lunch": 36:28–40:42
• Food Challenges & Summer Plans: 41:02–47:57

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Tone and Style

The episode features Armstrong & Getty’s trademark sardonic, playful, and occasionally exasperated tone. Their exchanges are rich in parody, cultural criticism, and rapid-fire riffing that both enlightens and entertains. The show oscillates between deadpan humor, genuine moral concern, and sharp political commentary.

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Conclusion

"The Nuts of Apathy" is a wide-ranging, witty critique of the media's fixation on spectacle and fear, the uncritical acceptance of government handouts, cultural amnesia, and the dangers of disengaged citizenship. At its core, the episode argues that our republic is increasingly hobbled less by bad actors than by lazy thinking—the eponymous “nuts of apathy” that flavor our national parfait of ignorance.

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17American passengers and one British national on the cruise ship at the center of the hantavirus outbreak now heading to the United States.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God. The passengers are in the United States now. We're all going to die. Why did we let the die? What about the children? We're all going to die. A gerbil. I think I got the rat fever already. Get your affairs in order. A will and or trust. We'll do the ad later. Get your affairs in order. We're all going to die. The hantavirus is exactly like Covid. Millions of dead.

[Joe Getty]

They're about to close schools for copulating with a rodent. Ted Cruz, I don't think you have to copulate with it. But Back to you, Dr. Jack.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know what to make of the coverage of this hantavirus thing. So for now, and especially yesterday, the Sunday talk shows, which in theory are for smart people, here meets the press. Your face is. The nation that led with the hantavirus story went on for like half the show. This is while we're at war. This is why all this stuff is going on. Half the show with various experts. This sort of thing. Play it.

[Joe Getty]

Michael, what is your message to Americans who are still scared? We have been repeating the same question,

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[Jack Armstrong]

Expert who would say. All right, since you said. Since you just said people are still scared, I guess I'll pretend that's true. Is anybody scared? Is anybody? Maybe you like being terrified by a

[Joe Getty]

gonorrhea, but you never get with hoes. I mean, why. Why are you. Oh, my God. We are so stupid. This is the very week, last week, in which the. The nation's debt surpassed our gdp, our total gdp, which is a horrifying milestone. And we're worried about a couple of people on a cruise off the coast of Africa.

[Jack Armstrong]

What the hell?

[Joe Getty]

Well, they're now on our shores, Jack. Run free lives. Run free lives.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. I honestly don't know what to make of the. Every host on all these different shows that I saw said the same Thing, People out there are very scared. They're worried this is a repeat of COVID Are they? Or did you just make that up completely?

[Joe Getty]

Like most stews, Jack, I think this one has a number of delicious ingredients, including the tendency of people on the left to really like being scared.

[Jack Armstrong]

True. Now, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Then they can draw together with other people and they like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like I remember, for instance, Face a Nation, Margaret Brennan, who had a baby, she would. Every week she would say, mothers like me are really wondering when can our babies get the COVID shot? Or 1 year olds? And I would think, why are you worried about that? Since, like, no kids are dying. Not a single kid died from COVID if I remember correctly. Right.

[Joe Getty]

Why in the name of heaven would you get your tiny kid shot?

[Jack Armstrong]

And why are you assuming that this is the question on everybody's mind? Because I don't think it is. So I guess extrapolate it to the hantavirus. I just. Again, I don't understand the coverage of this story.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that and everything is quick bait and everyone's a grifter, and so that's good. There's a scary sounding disease that's killing people. Are you at risk?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well. And every story for now, for two weeks includes three have already died. You have the same three that you mentioned last week and the week before. It's only those same three.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because it's very hard to spread.

[Joe Getty]

Three have died of hantavirus. You hear? Five days after you heard three have died of hantavirus. And you think, oh, my God, three more. No, no. Clickbait.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. As you say, everything is clickbait and

[Joe Getty]

everything is a grift and nobody's ever turned tuned out of. You're in danger. Nobody's ever tuned out of. A tornado is heading your. Punch the dial. Let's listen to music, honey. And so that's part of the clickbait. You're in danger. It's ridiculous.

[Jack Armstrong]

So what do you have to do to get the hantavirus? You sprinkle some rat feces on your salad.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Right. It's got a nice nutty flavor.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

You started it. Wow. Don't you. Don't you act disgusted.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Wait a second. Clickbait. Look at this clickbait up here on the screen.

[Joe Getty]

Which one?

[Jack Armstrong]

21 year old to have legs amputated after legs locked straight and bent backwards. You see that picture? Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

Bent backward.

[Jack Armstrong]

If your legs.

[Joe Getty]

Lord, look at that.

[Jack Armstrong]

How do your legs just somehow lock straight then bend the wrong direction?

[Joe Getty]

Are you at risk? Stay tuned and the cure for it

[Jack Armstrong]

is to amputate your legs.

[Joe Getty]

I'm Margaret Brennan. Backward leg syndrome claiming more legs across America. We'll talk to the Secretary of State.

[Jack Armstrong]

One has already had their legs amputated because their legs bent backwards.

[Joe Getty]

Legs amputated by backward leg syndrome. Tonight on 60 Minutes.

[Jack Armstrong]

I might have to click on that story. Is that picture real or is that Photoshopped?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure looks in the picture. Like that poor woman's legs are bending the wrong direction. How often does this happen?

[Joe Getty]

Well, I can't make my legs do that. Can you?

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll read the headline again.

[Joe Getty]

We'll post that at Armstrong&getty.com 21 year

[Jack Armstrong]

old to have legs amputated after legs locked straight. That's bad enough.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Then bent backwards. God, you could do some dance moves nobody else could do, though.

[Joe Getty]

Please, the moonwalk. You could make the moonwalk look like nothing.

[Jack Armstrong]

You'd be going forward, you'd own the dance floor.

[Joe Getty]

Right? In short, yes, yes, we.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm glad you look at the lighter side. It's just such a silly headline. Okay, what do we have that's real?

[Joe Getty]

Coming up, California's crumbling update. Plus the unbelievable flow of taxpayer money from blue states to red states. The, you know, money grab tactics of the blue states are backfiring more magnificently if you're a conservative than you could have imagined. And I wish I could get behind the paywall for this. I am going to take a greater look, but I think this is. Yeah. Axios out with an article. Violent crime rates plunge in America's big cities. And like Baltimore County, Maryland is down 83%. Violent crime. Suffolk County, New York, 73%. Omaha, Nebraska, 71.5%. It's unbelievable. DC, well, they got the National Guard there, But Raleigh, North Carolina, down 63%. Portland, Philadelphia.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

or something or it's free or whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, exactly. One of those.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we're doing research on like the best ones of those somewhere in America. We're going to go somewhere where if you eat, you know, the old, the old cowboy or whatever they call their steak.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

The big trucker Y.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

This man died of meat poisoning, but that sort of thing. So we've been researching in that and I came up with some great ones I'll have to tell you about later.

[Joe Getty]

That is so perverse and ridiculous and fantastic.

[Jack Armstrong]

How fun would that be?

[Joe Getty]

What's just. Do you have a front runner at this point?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, and it's near us in Danville, California. Oh, this burger. That's definitely a contender.

[Joe Getty]

Oh boy.

[Jack Armstrong]

But we'll get to that and other stuff on the way.

[Joe Getty]

Stay here, Armstrong and Getty.

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For instance, Neil DeGrasse Tyson's on CBS right now talking about UFOs. We're just a dumb people haunter. UFOs.

[Joe Getty]

It'd be tough to beat obscure diseases you're not going to get. And UFO talk for dumb it really would. That is some dumb, dumb stuff. Sorry I'm looking for some clips they've eluded. There we go. I tell you what, it's going to be a somewhat cerebral. California's crumbling. Thanks, metal guy. I remember that being longer. Play again, Michael. Goes by quickly, doesn't it? First this excellent News. It's clip 87. Michael, please. Alex Stone of somebody or other. ABC News. In a first in the nation program, California will give each family 400 diapers in sizes for newborns and babies up to 14 pounds when they're discharged from a hospital after birth. That's a bit more than a month's worth of diapers since newborns on average use eight to ten diapers a day. The program will begin at up to 75 hospitals that handle about a quarter of the births in California and largely serve low income patients. The initiative will expand from there. The idea is to help families in need and. Play, Michael, play, play. 86, you know exactly what I'm holding in my hand. Diapers. We'll be distributing 40 million free diapers this year to new families to address one of the real cost challenges they face. The affordability of diapers. God dang it. Roughly eight times the cost of buying diapers at Costco to line the pockets of his cronies. The diapers aren't the point. The money is the point.

[Jack Armstrong]

It makes me so angry. That's why I screamed like that. You could teach an entire hour long class. Oh yeah. On this whole thing. Including the media coverage that just because diapers fall out of the sky for free and we're giving them to the poor people. Isn't that fantastic?

[Joe Getty]

We've gathered them up from the diaper trees and we're giving them to the poor.

[Jack Armstrong]

How do you, how do you end up in a place where nobody thinks about who's paying for them and how it gets destroyed, distributed and whether that's a good idea?

[Joe Getty]

Is it cost effective? Who's getting the money? How did they get vetted? No, of course not. Moving on to other fair. And this is, this is sort of California's crumbling e. But it's an excellent, excellent, great point by the fabulous Nellie Bowles of the Free Press. You know, sorry la, this is for the rest of the country. Do you remember the fire that decimated the Pacific Palisades? Perhaps the most financially damaging fire in world history. Killed 12, destroyed thousands and thousands of homes. Nelly points out it was terrorism. It was left wing terrorism or anti elite anarchist terrorism. Whatever you want to call the pro mangione faction of the young ish left. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then we Just found that out a couple of weeks ago.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And you know, it's funny, sometimes somebody just has to distill it down and state it as plainly as Nelly does to click into my mind. But this piece of crap 29 year old who was arrested last October. It's become clear that many of his Uber passengers described the defendant as angry, intense, driving, radically ranting about being off the world. How great Louis Mangion. Luigi Mangioni was anti capitalism, pro vigilantism. And then he was searching on and writing about let's take down all the billionaires. Let's kill all the billionaires. Continue this rant explaining that we're basically being enslaved by them, the rich. Uh, so yeah, while LA is absolutely Karen Bass or horrible leadership to blame for empty reservoirs and fire hydrants running dry and budget cuts to the fire department. Whatever. Um, and, and hey Gavin. Climate change. Climate change. It was left wing terrorism. Anyway, I appreciated her her pointing that out. Uh, moving along. Headline from the Wall street journal thinks $6 gas is bad. It's about to get even worse in California because of Gavin Newsom and Jerry Brown before him. Their policies making it impossible for the oil industry to function in California. California is more dependent on crude oil shipments from the Middle east than any other US state.

[Jack Armstrong]

Did not know that.

[Joe Getty]

Absolutely dependent on it. And Chevron just left the state making gas even more expensive and rare. And then it's going to take months and months to start the flow up again. Now, irresponsibly. They didn't mention what horrific price might await poor Cal Unicornians. But the average gas price for regular in California is already 616. Diesel is 750 and higher.

[Jack Armstrong]

Seven and a half bucks for diesel. I know I paid that the other

[Joe Getty]

day going on buck and a half two dollars more than the rest of the country. And the state stockpiles of refined, refined products such as jet fuel and diesel are increasingly strained because the big Asian fuel suppliers. That's right. California gets all of its energy in the dirtiest way possible so it can signal its virtue in not doing any of it domestically. They get it from around the world so it, it could go even higher. Then finally, as California is crumbling metal guy Alicia Finley writing about the California party's unappetizing buffet of candidates for governor. And she points out that Javier Becerra, who's now leading in the polls for the governor of a gigantic state with 40 million people. He was a multi term. He spent 24 years representing a completely safe Democratic LA House district in 2017 Jerry Brown appointed him as attorney general. All he did was file about 100 lawsuits against the first Trump administration. Very few of them got anywhere. And then she writes, In 2021, he got another unearned promotion. With the COVID pandemic still raging, Biden tapped Mr. Becerra for HHS. Despite his lack of healthcare and administrative experience, he'd never really run anything. Why was he selected? Because he checked the party's boxes, as he did in the state. He is minority anti Trump, a dutiful party soldier. As she points out, if elected, he can be counted on to follow orders from labor groups, the climate lobby, try lawyers and other left wing interests. That's why they're putting their money behind him now. But anyway, back to his stint at hhs. The Biden team got the incompetent management it deserved. The Washington Post, the post in early 2022. That was before Bezos said, look, we got to quit being a left wing outlet. So this is back in the heyday of their left wingism. The Washington Post reported complaints from frustrated Biden officials that Mr. Becerra was in over his head and, as one put it, taking too passive a role. Politico last week gave fresh air to such criticisms in a story headlined Becerra's Rise Baffles his former Biden Colleagues.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was going to bring that last week and I forgot to. I've got it in my hand right now.

[Joe Getty]

Go hit it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Biden White House alumni have been marveling at Becerra's stroke of luck in the California gubernatorial race. The article goes on, quoting a whole bunch of people. They don't give their names, but people had worked in there and how much they he's incompetent. He was horrible. He was a dunce.

[Joe Getty]

Here's one for you. He would go to brief the president and was not prepared at all. Almost to the point where it was an embarrassment. Biden would pepper him with questions and he would not be able to answer them at all. He may be better than Tom Steyer, but what other choice is there? Jeez. And as Alicia writes, that's like saying the burnt steak is better than overdone meatloaf. That's the choices belched up by California. California's crumbling.

[Jack Armstrong]

The fact that Politico has a piece quoting those from the Biden administration who say Javier Becerra is going to be the governor of California. Oh, my God, one person said, I'd never worked with anybody who had less accomplishment to them than this guy.

[Joe Getty]

No, he just checks boxes that's amazing ethnic and he'll do whatever the unions and trialers tell him.

[Jack Armstrong]

He kept failing up and he may have failed his way up to being governor of the biggest state that is

[Joe Getty]

Some else Armstrong and Getty Support for

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The Met Gala. A night of fashion and fun, huh? Really? Yes. Come on everybody. Let's all prance around in our hundred thousand dollar clown outfits and watch the American empire crumble.

[Jack Armstrong]

What are we doing?

[Joe Getty]

What's going on?

[Jack Armstrong]

So you didn't like this year's Met Gala?

[Joe Getty]

Oh no, I loved it. Because when I go to a museum, I don't want to talk about history. No, I want to look at the rock in a skirt. Do you smell what the rock is cooking? Because I do. It's gender confusion. That's the rule. That's the goal.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now weren't there any outfits you like? So that's the Tucker Carlson guy they have for Saturday Night Live. Now that is pretty funny. Pretty, pretty funny. Pretty funny.

[Joe Getty]

Now do how you hate the Jews just like the left or you hate Israel just like the left. That'd be funny.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ah, so I got a bunch of different things here. Be short depending on how long Joe wants to talk about him. First of all, this Tim Sandifer tweeted this out over the weekend. Tim is a hardcore atheist, which he's talked about on our radio show quite a bit, but thought this is terrible. On elite campuses, most students don't know what the ten Commandments are or have any knowledge of the difference between the Old and New Testaments. Religious illiteracy is hurting higher ed according to a Princeton professor. And our atheist friend Tim Sandifer said a student who lacks a working familiarity with the Old and New Testaments is cut off from culture, history and knowledge of Western civilization.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'm sure Tim would point out, or perhaps he did point out that and I happen to be reading his new book about the founding proclaiming liberty that the basis of what we consider natural law we hold these truths to be self evident come from in large part the Judeo Christian, you know, culture, the principles.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trump was asked about UFOs.

[Joe Getty]

So if you don't know the philosophical reasons, ancient reasons behind. No, I don't get to take your stuff. I don't get to kill you. No, I can't oppress you. And make you labor for me without paying you. All that stuff is ancient wisdom. You got to know where it comes from.

[Jack Armstrong]

Think how many references you wouldn't get if you never went to church in your life and you didn't learn in a class. Yeah, way more than you realize. Trump was asked about UFOs over the weekend. He said he does not have an opinion on if aliens are real or not. That's probably the best way to answer that question.

[Joe Getty]

I just, you know, it occurred to me I had not clicked on the Free Press's coverage of the big UFO files. Cuz I'm like, I saw the headline which is Trump's UFO dump leaves Earthlings wanting more. And I'm like, of course it does.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's nothing there.

[Joe Getty]

This is stupid. But next hour, a brief look at that. Plus, do you remember the terrible case of Chandra Levy, who was a young woman having an affair with Congressman Gary Condit years and years and years ago, disappeared mysteriously. Condit was blamed for a time on certain irresponsible radio shows. In particular, they think her disappearance may be connected to UFOs. Oh, wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

So her parents are crazy. Okay.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, easy. They've suffered a lot.

[Jack Armstrong]

Jack.

[Joe Getty]

Let's be gentle in our discussions.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, back to.

[Jack Armstrong]

You got the top baby names because the Social Security numbers are out. I'll hit that in just a second for something more important. Why would this be? A CDC chart shows that antidepressant use is dramatically higher among white women than any other group.

[Joe Getty]

Like they're so nuts.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's what my son might say, actually. But why do white women. 23%, is that right?

[Joe Getty]

Number?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Almost 23% of white women use an antidepressant. It drops way down to 15% for black women.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then you have to go even lower before you get to men. But we'll just stay with women. 15% for black women, 14% for Hispanic women. Only 5% for Asian women.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

What do you think's going on there?

[Joe Getty]

Well, we've discussed this more than once. Why in particular? Young white women report much, much higher incidents of mental illness of various sorts. Progressive politics is a never ending doom loop. It is a never end expression that the world is oppression. It's unfair. You are being cheated. There's rampant racism everywhere. It's just relentless negativity because how else are you going to overthrow Western civilization? And so they subject this and women because they tend to seek accord rather more readily than truth. I'm generalizing here, forgive me. They run things through a filter of will I be reinforced for believing this as opposed to is it true? So should I believe it? You have a never ending force feeding of terrible sadness about the state of the world that'll get to you after a while.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the numbers for men are much, much lower than women in general, but still higher for whites. Dudes. Now, I suppose if you were this sort of person, I'm not. You'd say, well, it's because white people have all the money and the insurance can afford it and everybody else out there is suffering and don't have access to this. Well, that definitely is not true for the Asian community based on income numbers at all. Asians have a higher household income than anyone else in America and they're on way less antidepressants, way less men and women. Only 3% of Asian men are on antidepressants. 5.8% for Hispanic, 7% for black, but jumps up to double that for white men, which would probably be similar.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Interesting story of what you were just saying.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I mean, just for instance, if you worked at a place where everybody said, you know, hey, welcome, you know, you're going to love it here. It's, it's great. This is the company of opportunity where like everybody can get ahead. I remember when Jim signed on, you know, he came from a poor family, blah, blah, blah. He's an executive vice president now, you know, and what's his name hustled hard and now he's running the whatever division. And so yeah, just, you know, learn the ropes. And this is a great place to work as opposed to constantly constant negativity, people just telling you how miserable this place is. And it doesn't matter how smart you are, how good you are, you'll never get ahead. How would you feel going to work every day? Yeah, that's the life of the progressive.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's awful, man. I remember who did. Who first told me this years ago, I don't even remember now. Deserves credit anyway.

[Joe Getty]

Don't spit into the wind.

[Jack Armstrong]

Somebody explaining to me if whenever you go to work anywhere, you can hang around the people that complain about the place all the time or not, and it will really affect.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

The way. And I took that to heart. And I remember when we started here 30 years ago, practically, there was one person, nice person, but first day came up and said something negative about the place to me and I thought, okay, there's somebody I'm gonna stay away from.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because it just does you no good.

[Joe Getty]

Negative energy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, it does you no good. Something more positive. Although Maybe doesn't mean anything to you. Top 10 baby names that came for girls last year. And boys. This is according to Social Security number.

[Joe Getty]

Muhammad and Juan.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I won't read through the whole names because it's not necessary. I just think it's interesting. For girls, eight of the top ten and with an yep. Eight of the ten.

[Joe Getty]

Yep.

[Jack Armstrong]

Olivia, Emma, Amelia, Sophia, Mia, Isabella. A different spelling of Sophia. And Alenia, Elenia. Alenia.

[Joe Getty]

That sounds like a mineral I don't get enough of.

[Jack Armstrong]

The only ones that don't end with an are Charlotte and Evelyn. Evelyn's a cool name. I don't think I've run into anybody as little baby girls in Evelyn.

[Joe Getty]

Evelyn's got a nice kind of not old timey, but traditional elegance to it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Some really traditional male names on here in your top 10. Oliver, Theodore, Henry, James, William. Those are some classic American names right there.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, my.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have a son we call Henry, but it's his middle name. And I have no memory of when we decided that we both agreed on it. But anyway, his name is Jack, same as me. And quickly realized that that was unworkable for us. It just seemed like too much work to which one we're talking about all the time. So we went with his middle name.

[Joe Getty]

I was always JW growing up because my dad was Joseph as well. No Joseph on the list though. It's interesting. I play golf with a bunch of guys on the weekend and gosh, I don't know. It's a rotating group of 16, 18, 20 guys, whatever. And they're like five Joes. We're at least 20% of the entire. We may be 25% of the entire, but you never run into little kids named Joe these days.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know. I always like to think of funny names that. Classic names from like our childhood or whatever. But like if you met somebody and they said this is our baby girl, we named her Linda.

[Joe Getty]

You would think Linda, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Your little girl's name is Linda.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I mean, Joe was so common as to be a cliche. Yeah, you're. Yeah, your average Joe. Joe. Joe College, whatever. Yeah, yeah. Linda or Joe or some of the other ones.

[Jack Armstrong]

Another one here.

[Joe Getty]

Here comes the rest of it. He's getting rid of the ears. Here's the pitch.

[Jack Armstrong]

We do need to play the audio a little bit later or get into more of the whole ridiculous free diapers for babies California thing. That is going to make me insane. Oh. If it continues to get the attention it's getting. How wonderful is it?

[Joe Getty]

It's so ridiculous.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll always remember my Gladys reminiscing freshman English teacher who gave us the essay topic of There ain't no free lunch and a bunch of stupid 14 year olds sat there baffled as to what that could possibly mean.

[Joe Getty]

I remember being slightly baffled by it the first time I heard it too.

[Jack Armstrong]

We were completely baffled.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

You were better than us only being slightly. We were all completely baffled with people throwing around various. Just ridiculously not even close. But you know, thank God. You know. And eventually we all settled on it. But thank God he was trying to make the point that they should start making in kindergarten and make through all the way through the rest of your life. But most people think there is a free lunch that, that you can, that somebody can announce free diapers for babies. Whoa.

[Joe Getty]

How you can achieve adulthood, get to adulthood and not not ask the obvious follow up questions. Where are they coming from? Who's paying for them? How much do they cost? What's the distribution? But people. It's the government. It's the government is Santa Claus. I don't know. Something about the chimney and then the presents are there. That's all you need to know. Oh, there's no way to run a republic.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God. I always ask this question as a percentage these sorts of questions. I don't know why but what percentage of people you think just like really do not understand that free stuff is being paid for by somebody.

[Joe Getty]

I think it's shockingly high layer on that. The number who know that it's being paid for but they believe the rich should pay their fair share and it's rich people's taxes and they can afford it. So I don't give it to ask any questions.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think you're giving them too much credit.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean because I, I know.

[Joe Getty]

Well I'm saying that's the next layer in the parfait of ignorance.

[Jack Armstrong]

The next layer because I know these people are delicious.

[Joe Getty]

Parfait of ignorance with nuts on top with the nuts of apathy sprinkled.

[Jack Armstrong]

The next layer is some sort of belief that free is. The government pays for them. They do not connect taxpayer money to the government pays for it. I know lots of people that. That's not. That's our taxes. That's not a tax thing. It's just the government just has money.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And endless amounts of it and it doesn't come from anybody. So you got to break through that somehow.

[Joe Getty]

I was thinking about this a lot over the weekend. The policies of some of the blue cities and Spencer Pratt running for governor of la all pissed off about the bums and junkies and stuff. And it's a Cal Unicornia example. But I mean obviously if you make something easier, you will get more of it. And if you make something harder, you'll get less of it. And then people in the blue states and blue cities have to invent fanciful explanations for why do we have more bums and junkies and crime, why do we have fewer businesses? I just can't imagine. And they never connect policy to outcome. And if you can't make that gigantic Rubik's cube of logic leap, there's no chance they'll puzzle out how tax money works and handouts, cronies and graft and the rest of it. I don't know. Which is why we used to have such limited government. Because the founding papas knew that government is a theft ring. That's what it's always been. That happens to govern a little bit. And so you've got to keep it constricted. Cuz the bigger it gets, the bigger the theft gets. Again, it's not a bug, it's a feature. I, I give up.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good luck. So I just don't.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I think I'm for the grace of God.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I mentioned this summer my son wants to do some sort of eat the giant hamburger to get a T shirt sort of thing somewhere or like an eating contest or.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

And we've been doing research on that. I got some good ones for you.

[Joe Getty]

You open up the whole country to your consideration.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

You're a man of means. You can jump out of jet, we'll

[Jack Armstrong]

travel and it'd be fun. What a fun road trip that would be to go eat the world's biggest ice cream sundae. You get a your picture on the wall if you eat it or something like that.

[Joe Getty]

And well, we can talk about the next segment if you want.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got some of the best ones for you.

[Joe Getty]

Excellent.

[Jack Armstrong]

Among other things on the way.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Savings vary Secretary RFK Jr. Posted a picture of himself holding a bird he

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

a second picture of himself burping feathers. There you go, by the way, for silliness. I thought they had two of the cast members on the news segment as some of those Kamakazi dolphins. Oh, they're going to have dynamite stretch them. That I thought was really, really funny.

[Joe Getty]

Huh.

[Jack Armstrong]

So my son wants to do this sometime this summer. He wants to go someplace where they have like a legendary steak or bur ice cream sundae or whatever that if you can eat the whole thing or eat it in a certain amount of time or whatever, you get your picture on the wall or a T shirt or something. He's always wanted to do that.

[Joe Getty]

Now, I would never step on your son's dreams, but honestly, how's his game? How good is he?

[Jack Armstrong]

Very good.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right. We have gone to Red Robin and gotten two of the cheeseburgers and fries. Two meals. Now we say, good Lord, are we waiting for someone else? No, no. He wants to do this. He wants to see if he can eat two of those meals. So he kind of likes that sort of thing anyway, so I did some research and some of the more famous ones around the country. By the way, I'm gonna leave out the ones where nobody's ever done it. That's just. Oh, that's just stupid. Right? We have a 1,000 pound hamburger. Nobody's ever eaten it. Yeah, I'm sure they haven't.

[Joe Getty]

If you can eat an entire side of beef, it's free.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. One of the most famous is the 72 ounce steak challenge challenge at Big Texan Steak Ranch in Amarillo, Texas. This is the old 96er, which they parodied in the Simpsons and was featured in the movie the Great Outdoors with John Candy. It's the gold standard of this sort of thing they invented it really started in 1962. And it's not just the steak. You also have to finish a shrimp cocktail, baked potato salad and a roll in one hour.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my Lord.

[Jack Armstrong]

It has a 12% completion rate.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

You do get your. You get it free and then you get your picture up on the wall.

[Joe Getty]

That's amazing. Anybody could eat all that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know. The Kodiak Arrest Challenge. Humpy's Alaskan Ale House in Anchorage. We're probably not going to go to Alaska. I know you're going to Alaska. We're probably not going to Alaska. Seven crab nuggets, four pounds of Alaskan king crab, a 14 inch reindeer sausage, blah blah blah.

[Joe Getty]

You got to eat reindeer.

[Jack Armstrong]

And if you do it, you get a I got crabs at Humphrey's T shirt, which you know you'd wear the

[Joe Getty]

rest of your life when you eat reindeer steaks. It's delicious, but Santa Claus cries.

[Jack Armstrong]

A New Orleans institution is the Acme Oyster House in New Orleans. Fifteen dozen oysters, that's a hundred 180 oysters in one sitting.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, can you imagine? I mean, both ends, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

But I want to get to the one locally in oh, we're out of time. Well, I'll have to do them later, I guess. Well, you got some good hours.

[Joe Getty]

Do we do another hour?

[Jack Armstrong]

We do. Do another four.

[Joe Getty]

What if people can't be here? How can they get it?

[Jack Armstrong]

Including a pretty funny ice cream sundae? You go to Armstrong and Getty on Demand. That's what you look for for find your podcast and you should subscribe on strong Armstrong and Getty on Demand. You get all our segments whenever the heck you want them. Listen to them at your own leisure.

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