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Michael
It's One More Thing.
Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty One More Thing.
Michael
Or whatever it was that John Travolta family see said at the awards show and I think he was.
Armstrong
It was Adele Dazeem and he was.
Michael
Talking about Iggy Azalea, wasn't he?
Armstrong
No.
Michael
No he wasn't.
Armstrong
No. Edina Menzel oh, you're right. Yeah.
Michael
Anyway, it doesn't make a difference to my premise here. This is just another hard to pronounce name that I don't know. Iggy Azalea is the number one Only Fans model. Currently is a musician of some sort. I don't know what she does on Only fans. She makes $9.2 million a month.
Armstrong
A month.
Michael
The age we're living in is like the gold rush in so many ways. I mean it just, it seems like the, the supply and demand can't continue it the way it is. It's just, it's so new. Things haven't shaken out because at some point I think things got to shake out, don't they? There's no reason one young hot chick makes $92.2 million a month when there are unlimited young hot chicks. I mean at some point I would think this, you know, that's not really what I was. My main focus was going to be I was going to talk about this person here.
Armstrong
Well, I just to answer that, I think it would have happened already. There are undeniably few women. It reminds me in a weird way of like the world of podcasting, which.
Michael
I was got to talk about here in a second.
Armstrong
Okay. Interesting. Similar dynamics. You've gotta be good at it or like sexually attractive or whatever you've bought. Gotta be willing to put the time and effort into it such as it is laying around in your underwear or committing various acts or whatever. And then you've got to be known. And that's why you know like they're Joe Rogan who's got, you know, a very good podcast. Well, it's very popular. So self evidently it's. It's good to a lot of people. Well, he was also the host of Fear Factor and a big MMA guy. He had a built in magnet. He had a built in name and everything. And so it is in the hottie industry.
Michael
Yeah. So here's one of your hotties. She doesn't do anything other than like wear tight clothing and occasional bikinis. She's a virgin and a devout Christian who goes to mass regularly. But for whatever reason she caught on. Her name is Sophie Rain and she last year or this is how much money she has made so far. This is her total net worth at this point. She's 20 years old, started this when she was 18. She has a net worth of just over $80 million.
Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. I remember when she first came. And she doesn't radar screen.
Michael
And she's attractive, but she is not. I'll see five more attractive women today. Today. Just going to the mall.
Armstrong
Yeah, she. Well, you got the wrong picture.
Michael
Well, I'm looking at her.
Armstrong
She's built like a brick outhouse.
Michael
You got to go to the mall more often. So are lots of people. That's my point. So are lots of people.
Armstrong
I just don't understand them all.
Michael
I just don't understand. One catches on over another. I really, really don't get it. But clearly they do. $80 million. She's 20 years old. She doesn't even do anything really.
Armstrong
No, she just. Well, she sells the vision of the version, the virgin whore. That's like timeless. I am pure and innocent. I am not a tramp. You will not get a disease from me. But I will do anything with you. Anything. It's like the greatest male fantasy in the history of the world.
Michael
I guess. I mean that's true. How that translates to this I don't quite get. But including one guy who gave her $4 million last year, one rich guy for doing nothing really other than wearing the color bikini he wants her to wear.
Armstrong
I guess now that I really don't care.
Michael
No kidding.
Armstrong
Have you ever been to a beach, sir?
Michael
So just the. Oh yeah, there's an example. I was just in Miami, South Beach. There's lots of girls that look like her. They're all over the place.
Armstrong
But she's got a brand.
Michael
How you become the name that somebody would search on. That's its own magic, I guess. Yeah, you know, I suppose lots of show businesses that is that way there's lots of bands that sound the same. Why does one pop up and the other one doesn't is always been a bit of a mystery. But I was going to get to this article that was in the New York Times yesterday about how podcasting has gone video to such a certain extent. And all of my favorite podcasts, including ours, soon have now put cameras in there so you can watch also. And there's just so much demand for watching the podcast that you had been listening to. Lex Friedman does it now. Joe Rogan's been doing it forever. Commentary magazine. I listen to their podcast. They got cameras now and you can watch them on YouTube. I never have. I have no need to see them saying the things they're saying while I listen to them to talk. But a lot of you do, apparently.
Armstrong
Yeah. I'm surprised by this, I got to admit, because just the way I take in audio entertainment, it wouldn't make any sense to be watching it because I'm walking or driving or you know, doing housework or whatever.
Michael
I used to think that. But the first radio show that was regularly on television that I was aware of was Imus way back in the day and he was on MSNBC in the Morning famously got fired. They hired Joe Scarborough as a fill in and the rest is history. But I miss was on in the Morning and like sometimes they'd say something and I would come out of my I'm listening to it. I'd come out of the bathroom and walk down the hall and like zap back to watch them say it for some reason, not exactly even sure why myself, but videos of podcasters and so we're testing our cameras today or tomorrow to get that going to not excited about it. But if we get to some more listeners, slash viewers, it's obviously a good idea.
Armstrong
Hanson said I have to be shirtless. Well that's how we're tying into the whole only fans thing, Michael. We're trying to harness both of those dynamics at once. It's out of the box.
Michael
One thing that Covid did and maybe just the ubiquity of video casts. There doesn't seem to be much of a demand for lighting being fantastic or you wearing certain clothes or having makeup because there's Joe Rogan doesn't obviously doesn't care at all how he looks. The lighting is terrible. He's sitting there In a sweatshirt. It looks like he hasn't washed his face. I mean, he doesn't care and he's. He makes it done. Whatever. He made $300 million on his deal.
Armstrong
Well, and you've commented that as news breaks, Halperin will hold these rodeos where various thinkers, commentators will get together and comment in real time, which is really cool. But a lot of the times they're sitting there on the same T shirt they worked out in.
Michael
Yeah. With headphones on and bad lighting. So caring about that has gone out the window.
Armstrong
Well, normally you'd be trucked down to Manhattan. I mean, back in the day.
Michael
Oh, yeah.
Armstrong
Literally you had to be there in the studio wearing a suit with makeup on your face.
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Yeah.
Michael
They would fly you in if they're going to have you on the show. And then it became popular for a while to have these mobile studios that would come around. It was just a van with a tiny little set in it. And they could come to your place of work or your home. You'd go out and sit in the van with the proper lighting and the proper set and the makeup person. But that's just. Nobody needs that anymore. So that was all unnecessary, apparently.
Armstrong
Jack, was it? Is this the slopifying of America or is it just that the ideas are what counts? I mean, like I came across, I shared a couple of things on the show today I thought were very smart, persuasive ideas. And if the guy expressing that was on like it was wearing like an ill fitting golf shirt, I wouldn't diminish the idea in the least to me.
Michael
No. Well, nor the reverse. Somebody who's got nothing to say. Being good looking with perfect makeup and perfect hair does nothing for me.
Armstrong
Maybe it's the falling away of that sort of pretense which would be great.
Michael
That's gotta be a good thing, doesn't it?
Armstrong
I don't have a big problem with it. No. No. Because I think a lot of that pretense and you see it in politics still. I mean, why do they all wear the blue suit and the red tie and the flag pin and the. The all got the same damn haircut. A lot of them doing the rest of it. It's all pretense.
Michael
Yeah.
Armstrong
You know, I think being average looking.
Michael
Makes you more relatable. Well, then I should be damned relatable. I should be.
Armstrong
Guys on earth, the every man. Yeah.
Michael
Yeah. It's got to be bad news for eventually, for hot young chicks wanting to get into tv if it just doesn't matter.
Armstrong
Maybe that will be the last matter. Back to our previous discussion.
Michael
Ah, there you go. That'll be the last holdout having a young Hott do your weather for whatever reason.
Armstrong
You know that's I shouldn't admit this, it's a point of personal cowardice. No, it's probably not cowardice, but.
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You remember back in the day when there were a handful of lawsuits, female newscasters sued because they were fired in favor of younger hotties.
Michael
Yeah.
Armstrong
And we were on the side of, look, it's show business. I mean, if they think somebody else is going to get more clicks, more views, whatever. You're in show business. You're not the, you know, the production manager at GM or something, fired in favor of a hotter girl with bigger boobs or something. You're in the look how attractive I am business. And I know a gal, she's a friend, the wife of a friend who was involved in some of that stuff, by the way. Brilliant woman, like intimidatingly smart, great reporter. I mean, researcher. Again, intimidatingly smart and tough. And I haven't had that conversation with her.
Michael
You think she's on the other side of the argument?
Armstrong
Oh, she was. No, she sued.
Michael
Oh, she sued.
Armstrong
She was part of those lawsuits.
Michael
That's nuts. There's no justifying that. I don't care how damn smart you are. That's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's like saying, sorry, nirvana, you can't be a band. Synthesizers are a thing and you can't change.
Armstrong
Well, no, I don't know. That's a poor metaphor. And I'll tell you why. She sees her Job as being a reporter and anchor, the network is like, yeah, that. We need you to do that, but you're a pretty thing for people to look at. Well, that's part of your job.
Michael
Did she win or lose?
Armstrong
I don't remember how it ended. Honestly. I remember Christine Kraft. She was the first to sue in California. Right.
Michael
How. Maybe, maybe I alter my metaphor slightly. You're a band that was very, very popular, but now you've gotten a little older and people aren't as interested in you anymore.
Armstrong
Right. So is it, is it show business or is it a production job? That, that's the, that's the problem. That, that's like the, the, the conundrum thing.
Michael
Wouldn't it be easy to get around by saying, I hired you in the first place because you were so hot, there was a number of people that could do the reporting you do. I hired you because you're the hottest one.
Armstrong
Yeah, well, the government has never come to terms with that. Where does show business turn into journalism? How would you fire a newspaper columnist in favor of a younger, hotter?
Michael
Of course not.
Armstrong
Right?
Michael
Unless they're going on MSNBC or going on the cable news channels and getting lots of attention for my, my newspaper, which they might.
Armstrong
And I'm not trying to be obtuse here. I'm just saying it's difficult to draw the line where that becomes age discrimination.
Michael
I'll tell you one place you can draw the line easily. Weather. Anybody could do the freaking weather. They're just reading it from a computer, so that's got no talent whatsoever. They're always going to go with the younger, hotter one that goes to the Supreme Court.
Armstrong
9, 0. Katangi, Brown, Jackson High 5. And Scalia, who is dead. I meant not Scalia high five. And Gorsuch. Yeah. Nine, zero. Ruling.
Michael
Well, I guess that's it.
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Overview: In this engaging episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, hosts Armstrong and Michael delve into the intriguing world of online fame, particularly focusing on platforms like OnlyFans. They explore the dynamics of viral success, the shifting landscape of podcasting, and the enduring challenges of ageism and attractiveness in media industries. Through candid conversations and insightful commentary, the hosts shed light on the factors that contribute to online stardom and the evolving nature of content creation.
The episode kicks off with a humorous reference to the infamous mispronunciation of "Adele Dazeem" by John Travolta during the Oscars. This serves as a springboard for the hosts to transition into the main topic of online fame.
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Armstrong and Michael shift their focus to the skyrocketing success of individuals on OnlyFans, highlighting figures like Iggy Azalea and Sophie Rain. They question the sustainability and fairness of such immense earnings, pondering why certain personalities garner unprecedented financial success while others do not.
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The conversation transitions to the broader trends in media consumption, specifically the increasing move of podcasts to video formats. Armstrong and Michael reflect on their own forays into video podcasts and discuss the motivations behind this shift.
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Discussing the shift towards video, the hosts highlight a significant cultural change: the diminishing importance of polished appearances in favor of genuine content. They argue that this trend allows for more authentic and relatable media personalities.
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Armstrong and Michael delve into the sensitive issue of ageism and attractiveness in the media industry. Recalling past lawsuits where female newscasters were replaced with younger, more attractive counterparts, they explore the ethical and professional implications of such practices.
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Wrapping up, the hosts reflect on the evolving media landscape, pondering the future of content creation and the role of authenticity. They express optimism that prioritizing ideas and relatability over superficial attributes will lead to a more inclusive and diverse media environment.
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Conclusion: This episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand offers a thought-provoking exploration of modern fame, media trends, and the shifting values in content creation. By examining success stories on OnlyFans, the transition of podcasts to video, and the persistent challenges of ageism in media, the hosts provide listeners with a comprehensive understanding of the current landscape. Their insightful discussions encourage reflection on what truly matters in the pursuit of success and authenticity in the digital age.