These Damned Sores Put Me Over The Top

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "These Damned Sores Put Me Over The Top"

Date: November 3, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, with Katie Greener

Episode Overview

This episode of the Armstrong & Getty Show covers a wide range of irreverent news topics, pop culture references, and social commentary, all delivered in the duo’s signature sardonic style. The show pivots from a satirical SNL mayoral debate parody, to scandalous local headlines, to Trump’s recent 60 Minutes appearance, government shutdown fallout, social trends like "mood boards,” and critiques of modern life. The blend of news, opinion, and humor makes it lively and engaging for regular listeners.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. SNL’s Mayoral Debate Parody & the State of New York Politics

[03:34–08:38]

• The hosts play and riff on a Saturday Night Live cold open parodying the New York mayoral debate featuring caricatures of Andrew Cuomo, the fictional "young socialist Muslim" nominee Mamdani, and Curtis Sliwa.
• The recurring theme: political choices are dismal, and mayor of NYC is "the worst job in the world".
  • Joe: “As soon as you are elected mayor, everyone in the city immediately hates you. And in that way, I am already one step ahead of the game.” (04:58)
• Discussion on real-life candidate Zohran Mamdani’s activist politics, youth, and lack of experience.
  • Jack: “He’s going to get elected as a socialist who hates Israel in New York.” (06:46)
• Skepticism toward charismatic newcomers vs. a corrupt establishment.
  • Joe: “The specifics of what he will say are repugnant in a lot of ways, but the idea that a charming, handsome young guy who’s never done anything is gonna lead us into a bright future…that’s such a roll of the dice…” (07:28)
• Andrew Cuomo’s problematic reputation and the dilemma of bad options.

2. Scandal of the Week: The Drunk Judge Incident

[08:38–16:59]

• A wild Arizona news story: a drunken female judge caught urinating in public, with her husband (a local official) resisting police intervention.
• Graphic recounting and legal fallout, mixing humor and derision.
  • Joe (quoting the police): “She was so drunk she couldn’t even spell her own name, but was quick to point out she was a judge.” (09:52)
  • Jack: “If I had been defecating in the parking lot, I would not repeat that story on the air. Kind of like, half proudly, which is weird.” (12:33)
• Amusement over statutory language—public urination versus defecation, and musings on correct punishments and social embarrassment.
• Katie adds a live commentary after watching video evidence, calling out the husband as “a complete jerk in this entire situation.” (15:46)
• Consensus: the incident was made far worse by her husband escalating the situation.

3. Interview Recap: Trump on 60 Minutes

[21:41–24:50]

• Brief playback and analysis from Trump’s recent 60 Minutes appearance with Norah O’Donnell.
  • Trump repeats familiar talking points: media distrust, “fake news,” approval numbers dropping.
  • Jack: “You’d think in 90 minutes, there’d be some newsmaking stuff. There wasn’t really.” (21:46)
• Discussion about Trump’s China policy answer and Taiwan ambiguity:
  • Trump: “President Xi knows what I would do […] they have said out loud they will not invade Taiwan as long as I’m president.” (23:10–24:22)
• Joe critiques Trump’s style: “He’s not going to give China an excuse to get more militant… but he’s just looking forward to the next round…” (24:22)

4. Government Shutdown & SNAP Benefits

[28:26–31:44]

• Breaking news: Judge orders the Trump administration to pay SNAP benefits despite the shutdown.
  • Jack: “If you take away that ‘they’re starving people,’ now you’re back to just… government workers aren’t working…” (28:54)
  • Joe: “It all goes back to the whole perception… of who will be blamed. And that’s a question I just don’t have the energy for.” (29:07)
• Preview of discussion for upcoming economic crisis and how modern economic distress is often relative, not absolute.
  • Jack: “A lot of economic unhappiness in this country is just all relative… it’s not ‘I’m starving and have sores,’ it’s ‘my life isn’t as cool as other people’s…’” (30:38)
  • Joe with episode title punchline: “I could deal with starvation if my skin was at all healthy, but these damn sores just really put it over the top.” (31:39)

5. Mood Boards, Fashion, and ‘Meaningful’ Life Choices

[32:00–41:24]

• The hosts read (and mock) a New York Times piece on “mood boarding” for seasonal wardrobe refreshes.
  • Jack: “There are people who live that way… that couldn’t be more foreign to me in my family and upbringing.” (35:24)
  • Joe: “This is like studying some African tribe that puts plates in their lips…” (36:11)
• Spirited debate about meaning, value, and judgments: is painstaking attention to personal style and ‘mood boards’ meaningful, or the mark of a shallow existence?
• Katie: “As soon as it starts getting cold, it’s sweater weather. That’s it.” (35:27)
• Playful idea: a smart hanger that tracks unworn clothes and a “sarcastic gay guy with a mood board” to audit Jack’s closet.

6. Miscellaneous Humor & Social Satire

[43:35–49:49]

• Brief, light stories including a runaway inflatable Halloween pumpkin and a quick nod to a mom who shot a diseased research monkey in Mississippi—“I would hate to shoot a monkey.” (47:45)
• Riffs on the birthrate and Friday the 13th as a lesson for teens about premarital sex.
  • Joe: “Wrong. We need more babies! Look at the birthrate. Let’s get it on.” (48:33)
• Katie on NYC’s young voters: “They’re all for Mamdani. And they all have zero idea about politics or what he’s going to do. It’s amazing.” (48:40)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“As soon as you are elected mayor, everyone in the city immediately hates you. And in that way, I am already one step ahead of the game.”
—Joe Getty, channeling SNL, (04:58)

“He’s going to get elected as a socialist who hates Israel in New York.”
—Jack Armstrong (06:46)

“The specifics of what he will say are repugnant…but the idea that a charming, handsome young guy who’s never done anything is gonna lead us into a bright future…that’s such a roll of the dice.”
—Joe Getty (07:28)

“She was so drunk she couldn’t even spell her own name, but was quick to point out she was a judge.”
—Joe Getty (09:52)

“If I had been defecating in the parking lot, I would not repeat that story on the air. Kind of like, half proudly, which is weird.”
—Jack Armstrong (12:33)

“A lot of economic unhappiness in this country is just all relative… it’s not ‘I’m starving and have sores,’ it’s ‘my life isn’t as cool as other people’s…’”
—Jack Armstrong (30:38)

“I could deal with starvation if my skin was at all healthy, but these damn sores just really put it over the top.”
—Joe Getty (31:39)

"As soon as it starts getting cold, it’s sweater weather. That’s it."
—Katie Greener (35:27)

“This is like studying some African tribe that puts plates in their lips…”
—Joe Getty (36:11)

“They’re all for Mamdani. And they all have zero idea about politics or what he’s going to do. It’s amazing.”
—Katie Greener (48:40)

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Important Timestamps

• [03:34] – SNL mayoral debate parody and commentary
• [08:38] – Drunk judge in Arizona urinating in public incident
• [21:41] – Trump’s 60 Minutes interview playback and discussion
• [28:26] – Government shutdown, SNAP benefits controversy
• [30:38] – Modern vs. historical economic suffering
• [32:00] – Mood boarding and fashion meaning discussion
• [35:24] – Jack discusses the divide in lifestyles over style/fashion
• [41:24] – Hosts reflect on clothing clutter & minimalism
• [43:35] – Miscellaneous news stories: pumpkin runaway, monkey shooting
• [48:40] – Katie’s take on NYC millennial voters and politics

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Tone & Style

• Irreverent, observational, and self-deprecating humor throughout.
• Willingness to poke fun at themselves, each other, public figures, and social trends.
• News analysis always delivered with a layer of skepticism and a sense of the absurd.

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Summary

The episode toggles between searing political cynicism, lampooning bizarre local scandals, and musings on how people try (or fail) to find meaning today—whether through politics, status, or seasonal mood boards. The Armstrong & Getty duo, with Katie Greener’s “normal person” perspective, deliver brisk satirical takes on the news cycle, demonstrating both skepticism and a willingness to laugh at their own and society’s foibles.

A perfect episode for listeners wanting to keep up with news while getting a hearty dose of exasperated, acerbic humor.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here.

[Joe Getty]

Here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

First up, former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo.

[Joe Getty]

I got us through Covid and then yada yada yada, Hong Kong. Squeeze squeeze. Anyway, I'm back. I am born bred New Yorker.

[Jack Armstrong]

I love it here. I know this city like the back.

[Joe Getty]

Of a woman's back.

[Jack Armstrong]

Mamma mia. Next we have the Democratic nominee, Zoran.

[Joe Getty]

I'm happy to be here and I know some of you are out there.

[Katie Greener]

Scared of the idea of a young socialist Muslim mayor. So allow me to put you at ease by smiling after every answer in a way that physically hurts my face.

[Jack Armstrong]

The Republican nominee, Curtis Sliwa. I'm thrilled to be here and not.

[Joe Getty]

Getting shot in the back of a.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yellow cab five times by the Gotti's and Gambinos, as I was famously in.

[Joe Getty]

1992, 1993 and 94.

[Jack Armstrong]

But I'm the right choice to be your next mayor.

[Joe Getty]

No offense to my opponents, Mr. Cuomo.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I believe I'm saying this right.

[Joe Getty]

Zoltar Rob Zombie.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, so here's a little more from the Cold open of Saturday Night Live about the mayoral debate candidates. You're all running to be mayor of New York City. So my question is, why would you want the worst job in the world?

[Joe Getty]

As we all know, as soon as you are elected mayor, everyone in the city immediately hates you. And in that way, I am already one step ahead of the game.

[Jack Armstrong]

Mr. Mamdani, same question.

[Katie Greener]

I want to be mayor so I can deliver a better New York. Free health care, affordable housing, free WI fi. As mayor, can I make that happen? I'm not sure yet.

[Joe Getty]

But together, we're gonna find out that the answer is. And of course, as you know, my dad was brutally kidnapped and tied to.

[Jack Armstrong]

The tracks of the cyclone at Coney Island.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sorry, what was your question? Why do you want to be mayor?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I need a job. So. Curtis Sliwa, played by Shane Gillis, the hilarious comedian who often talks about how he's got the best resume, perhaps of anyone in America, of things that he didn't actually end up doing. He went to West Point, for crying out loud, but quit in the first couple of weeks. Then he got a scholarship to be a Division 1 lineman at a major college, but quit before the season started. Wow. Then got hired to be on Saturday Night Live, but unhired because they found some old tweets. So, in theory, his resume includes West Point, Division 1 college football player and Saturday Night Live. He didn't do any of those things, but he qualified for them, which is really pretty impressive.

[Joe Getty]

This is an interesting story. I find myself wondering, is he, like, decisive? This is not for me, and I shouldn't be wasting my time with this. Or is he, like, a quitter and a coward now?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, what? Clearly. And, you know, it proved to be true. All. But at the time, his parents were like, what the frig are you doing? But it turned out his comedy is his thing. I mean, he's just. He's really, really good at it. A creative person. Yeah. Fair enough. The. It's interesting that even Saturday Night Live took that view of Mandani, though, and Barack Obama not getting on stage with him over the weekend. Normal people realize what he is. It's all being driven by young nut jobs who don't know any better. I'll give them a pass because they're college kids, I guess. But he's going to get elected as a socialist who hates Israel in New York.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. The specifics of what he will say are repugnant in a lot of ways, but the idea that a charming, handsome young guy who's never done anything is going to lead us into a bright future, just, you know, a certain amount of life experience. You're like, you know, it's conceivable, I suppose, but it's just. That's such a roll of the dice. No, let's go with somebody who's shown that they have the skills to do the job.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. The problem being there, as portrayed on Saturday Night Live, your backup position is Andrew Cuomo, who is a scumbag. Right.

[Joe Getty]

We're not a company that can interview People, until we have the right person, it's an election. I mean, several recent American presidential elections had choices that some people found unsavory.

[Jack Armstrong]

Andrew Cuomo is corrupt. He treats women very, very badly. He's really old and has poor judgment. Other than that, give him your vote.

[Joe Getty]

Comes from a corrupt political dynasty which is extra repugnant.

[Jack Armstrong]

Looking forward to Mamdani's quote or speech tomorrow night after he wins and then what he has to say in his early weeks to see if he doubles down on his whole I'm a socialist thing.

[Joe Getty]

Democratic Socialists of America support prison abolition. Police defunding. They are up with Venezuela, including Maduro. They are close with the Cuban regime.

[Jack Armstrong]

He has not distanced himself from globalizing intifada, which is amazing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. Unfreaking believable. All right. I promised it. And so here it is. Wild video showed a drunk Arizona judge with her pants down peeing in public with her town official. The husband then wrestled to the ground while trying to prevent the cops from questioning her, according to officials. Yava Pie County Superior Court Judge Pro Tempore Christine spelled with more wise than her normal. Shaw Folson, age 42, was seen scrambling to get out of the shrubbery as the cops arrived about 1:30 in the morning in Prescott, Arizona. Officers were called by several witnesses who saw the judge urinating in public, according to the police. This is disgusting. The responding cop told the judge who was so drunk she couldn't even spell her own name, but was quick to point out that she was a judge.

[Jack Armstrong]

To spell your own name. Wow. I don't know if I've been that drunk.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, this is unacceptable. The cop told her. Her husband Jason, the Parks and Rec manager from the town of Chino Valley, came over to pull away his repeatedly ignoring the cops orders to leave her and stop doing that. So he's. Come on, honey, we should just go now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Leave her alone. It's okay. You get.

[Joe Getty]

We'll go home now, honey.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's okay.

[Joe Getty]

The cops are like, dude, step away when asked why. When he asked why she was being questioned, the officer replied, quote, because I just saw her puking and urinating, exposing herself to several people. Now that wasn't her. The husband insisted. And the cop who's been there the whole time is like, no, I was, I was. I was watching her do those things. Her ass was bare. She's right here. I've been watching the whole time.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is why she got kicked out of Denver though. Urinating public. Cops said the same thing. But I did be urinate he continued.

[Joe Getty]

To try to lead his wife away despite repeated warnings. The video showed. I'm going to blanking, throw you on the ground if you resist, the officer told him moments before doing so. I gave you several chances, and you don't want to listen. When an officer is giving you an order, you need to comply and not interfere with the investigation.

[Jack Armstrong]

You think you know drunk.

[Joe Getty]

Yvonne Drunkerstein said, we gotta go and try to pull his wife away again while he was placed in a. While the husband was placed in a police cruiser and hauled away, several other officers arrived. The initial responding officer explained to fellow cops, quote, she has her pants completely down. I'm watching her right there. She's peeing everywhere. A bunch of people are watching right over there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do we have an agent?

[Joe Getty]

She's useless. She can't Even spell her name. 42.

[Jack Armstrong]

42, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Now, here's where we get into the legal thicket, Jack.

[Jack Armstrong]

The.

[Joe Getty]

The judge was issued a citation for urinating or defecating in public.

[Jack Armstrong]

They couldn't nail that down.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I believe that is the way the statute is worded.

[Jack Armstrong]

Katie, the face you're making, I don't know what it says, but I feel like. I feel like one of those crimes is like, I think one's a felony and one's a misdemeanor.

[Joe Getty]

Precisely.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, is it really? I just thought just from a. No, no, no.

[Joe Getty]

That's my point. The citation is for a law.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Joe Getty]

That you are not allowed to urinate and. Or defecate in public.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You can't make those the same. I jokingly said, because it's true, that I was told by cops one time to not come back to Denver because they saw me urinating in the parking lot.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

If I had been defecating in the parking lot, I would not repeat that story on the air. Kind of like half proudly, which is weird.

[Joe Getty]

You'd have gotten a wood shampoo and deserved it.

[Jack Armstrong]

In a joking way. I'd be horrifyingly embarrassed by that. If I had defecated in the parking lot.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, you know what the judge should have said, I'm sorry.

[Katie Greener]

I saw.

[Joe Getty]

I was in San Francisco.

[Jack Armstrong]

We need a woman.

[Joe Getty]

Thousands.

[Jack Armstrong]

Are they both equally as bad or is one clearly worse than the other? What? Defecating or defecating? Yeah. Isn't one clearly worse than this?

[Katie Greener]

One is clearly worse than the other.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay?

[Katie Greener]

And my. The face I'm making is just me thinking, ew to all of this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I'm drunk peeing in My yard. That's one thing, right? If he's, you know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good point. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Dropping a deuce, please. No, there's going to be action taken.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Yeah. They're not even close. One's a misdemeanor, one's a felon. Or should be.

[Joe Getty]

Right, exactly. She resigned as judge pro tempore two days later.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Quote. My resignation comes after careful consideration of current physical, medical, and family circumstances.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got caught defecating in public is the circumstance. Well, that's a heck of a thing to give up a job like that. I mean, that's a. You know, you start working your way up through the world to try to be a judge, that's a really big deal. And you gave it up that easy? Or did somebody tell you you're gonna get booted anyway? So you resisted resist arrest with the cops. That's probably what did her in, right?

[Joe Getty]

I think she just was a blob. She was just a.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just a peeing, pooping blob.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. What's. What was the term?

[Jack Armstrong]

In.

[Joe Getty]

No, I won't use that term from Pulp Fiction. Anyway, yeah, she was just a useless drunken idiot. He was cited for resisting arrest and interfering with a crime scene investigation. What's to investigate? An obstruction of government operations.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, it's interesting that even though. Even though they're both hammered, that they're both the kind of people that thought they should be able to get away with that. Not just her or not just him. They both thought they were above the law. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I. I wonder.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't most of us feel like we've got a husband or our wife who would not go along with those kind of. That kind of behavior?

[Joe Getty]

Number one, if your drunk wife says she has to pee before you leave the restaurant, let her go to the bathroom. Secondly, what if the husband had just stood by tapping his foot, waiting for the cops to process his drunk ass? Wife. His drunk. And bear asked. Wife. She probably just would have gotten a citation like a traffic ticket.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wouldn't have made the news. Probably.

[Joe Getty]

No. Nobody would have heard any of this. Right. So he really. I mean, she felt the call of nature. A strip mall is probably not the best place to answer it, especially with multiple onlookers.

[Jack Armstrong]

And we don't know if it was a number one or the burden of Damascus, but either way, yes.

[Katie Greener]

Katie, I'm watching the video of this. She has her ass in a planter box in front of a bunch of people, and he comes up and the cop, you know, says, I just saw your wife peeing. And, you know, what said whatever. And I'm going to talk to her over here. And he goes, no you're not. And tries to pull her up. I mean, the husband's a complete jerk in this entire situation.

[Joe Getty]

It's on him.

[Jack Armstrong]

Dark or light of day?

[Joe Getty]

Dark.

[Jack Armstrong]

1:30Am but people, people watching. Yeah.

[Katie Greener]

It was like outside of wherever they were hanging out and she is in.

[Jack Armstrong]

The planter box and.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, obviously. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That was a legal discussion. She did not unleash.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, just see the, the, the mechanics of the way women. You wouldn't be able to tell just by looking. Right. Initially what she was.

[Joe Getty]

No. But again, there was a police investigation. I'm sure they came firm conclusion. Yes.

[Katie Greener]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

He had CSI on it.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

DNA, whatnot.

[Joe Getty]

I don't think so. I think just a quick eyeballing would be fine. Yeah. So again, the, the, you know, she was hammered drunk, but it was her drunky husband.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Who escalated this into ugliness.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Wow. Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

No longer gotten to the bottom of the case because of the poor judgment of who she married. More on the way. Stay here.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

They call me a Nazi all the time. I'm not a Nazi. I'm the opposite. I'm somebody that's saving our country, but.

[Joe Getty]

They call me Nazi.

[Jack Armstrong]

They have talking points, you know, they have just talking points and the press is, is largely responsible for it. The fake news, what they've done. I think one of the greatest terms I've ever come up with is fake news. What they've done to our country is very bad. They have to change around now. Nobody believes the fake news. Nobody believes them. I mean, they've gone. You talk about popularity, you talk about approval. Their approval numbers have gone from like in the 90s to in the teens now. So that's from 60 Minutes last night. Norah O' Donnell sat down with Donald Trump for 90 minutes. You'd think in 90 minutes there'd be some newsmaking stuff. There wasn't really. And I think, and she, she, she went on about how it's the first time in five years Donald Trump has sat down with 60 Minutes and he talks to the press for like an hour every day.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So there's just, it's impossible to make news like any new news. I mean, he could have said something in that interview that would have been shocking, but it just been happenstance because it's not like Joe Biden who hasn't spoken to the media in three years. He talks to the press every single day and asks hostile questions or is asked hostile questions.

[Joe Getty]

Mm. I was kind of curious about this one though, where they talk about China. 43, Michael, if you'd be so kind.

[Announcer]

You just negotiated this one year trade deal with China. But as you know, the Chinese, they think in a hundred years they play the long game, including on our own soil.

[Jack Armstrong]

We play the long game too.

[Announcer]

Our own intelligence agencies say the Chinese have infiltrated parts of the American power grid and our water systems. They steal American intellectual property and Americans personal information. They bought American farmland. How big of a threat is China?

[Jack Armstrong]

It's like everybody else we're a threat to them. Too many of the things that you say we do to them. Look, this is a very competitive world, especially when it comes to China and the US and we're always watching them and they're always watching us. In the meantime, I think we get along very well and I think it's, I think we can be bigger, better and stronger by working with them as opposed to just knocking them out. She asked him about Taiwan repeatedly, really pressed him on that. He said, you know, it didn't come up talking to Xi at all. He didn't bring up Taiwan at all. You all said he was going to bring it up and he didn't. But she said, would we militarily back Taiwan if he invaded? And he said, I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to answer that question. I'm not going to let you know what my plan was. He said, but she knows what I would do. President Xi knows what I would do. She said, well, what is that? He said, I'm not going to tell you, but he knows what I would do. And they have said out loud they will not invade Taiwan as long as I'm president.

[Joe Getty]

I really didn't like his answer to that question, but I get it now. Having watched him now for years and years, he's not going to give China an excuse to get more militant. Hey, they do stuff, we do stuff. I mean, you shouldn't ever say that as president, but he's just looking forward to the next round of negotiations and wants to stay, you know, wants things to stay reasonably friendly.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you miss an hour, signigate the podcast Armstrong and Yeti on demand Armstrong.

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[Katie Greener]

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[Jack Armstrong]

And the Trump administration has just announced they will do that. They will comply with the judge's order. So SNAP benefits will start going out over the next couple of days. So to me, that judge probably did that independently of what the Democratic Party wants or doesn't want. But if I'm the Democratic Party, I didn't want that to happen. That was your, that was your point of pressure.

[Joe Getty]

They're starving people. Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And if you take away that they're starving people, now you're back just to. Okay, so government workers aren't working, aren't getting their paychecks.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're not all government workers. Most of us are paying government workers not receiving money.

[Joe Getty]

And it all goes back to the whole perception slash question of who will be blamed. And that's a question I just don't have the energy for.

[Jack Armstrong]

No. And who cares? Who cares? But this could go on for quite a while. Tomorrow we'll set the record longest shutdown ever. It could go on for quite a while.

[Joe Getty]

You know, we got a great.

[Jack Armstrong]

The SNAP benefits. I thought, okay, well now something will get worked out somehow because they're going to find a family where the kid is hungry and put them on TV with tears in their eyes. But no, that ain't going to happen. Money's going out for the, the hungriest out there.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, we got an email. I don't know what I did with it, but again, one of our beloved listeners said, agreed with us, that the Republicans messaging is just not good and they've got to go with something like all we need is five sane Democrats to vote to reopen the government.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Trump, even last night on 60 Minutes, I thought, did not handle that as well as he should have when she was asking about the shutdown. Should have made it more clear what was going on there. But that reminds me, I was listening to an economic podcast over the weekend, was really damned interesting. I'm gonna listen to it again. Maybe I can talk about it tomorrow more in depth. But it was about a possible coming financial crisis in this country. There will be another one. I mean, economics is cyclical, as we all know, and we've had a few big crises in our lifetime here. The 2008 was a big one and the stock market set records last week. These things don't continue. I mean, they, they have an end point to them. And then you add in the fact of our $38 trillion debt, which that can't continue forever anyway. We're going to have an economic crisis at some point and what that will be like. And they got into this discussion of economic crisis isn't the same now as it was like in the 30s. It's going to be. A lot of it is going to be comparing yourself to others. A lot of economic unhappiness in this country is just all relative to other people. Other people have a bigger house, nicer car, go on better vacations. It's not I'm starving and have sores. It's. I just, my life isn't as cool as other people's and that leads you to be. That leads you to be unhappy. And so, you know, I could deal.

[Joe Getty]

With a starvation if my skin was at all healthy, but these damn sores just really put it over the top.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, I'll talk more about that.

[Joe Getty]

Likewise, if I was besoard and could afford some salve and a nice meal.

[Jack Armstrong]

I could live with this. Put the.

[Joe Getty]

My God, honey, the two of them is too much. I'm voting Democrat or Republican next time.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know which. So I'll get to that later. How's your mood board as we head into fall? Is your mood board.

[Joe Getty]

My what now?

[Jack Armstrong]

Your mood board, Katie.

[Joe Getty]

Your mood board.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good. What.

[Katie Greener]

What are you talking about?

[Jack Armstrong]

I read this in the style section of the New York Times over the weekend.

[Joe Getty]

I thought this was really always worth a read.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is, it is. I mean, you want to talk about how people live so much differently than you do. Well, I don't remember what we were talking about earlier in the show, but Joe and I's answer is both have some kids. Have some damn kids. You'll be too busy worried about your kids taking care of your kids to worry about this sort of crap. It does solve a lot of problems. A lot of things get squeezed out once you have children.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I, I am occasionally sucked into one of the fashion articles. I'll get a news alert or something like that. And I get a pair a couple paragraphs in and I always realize it's written some 32 year old gay guy who uses lunch as a verb. I mean, it has nothing to do with me, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, here's Francis Sola Santiago, who is probably exactly what you just described writing in the New York Times. Every fall, I rediscover, rediscover my personal sense of style. The season allows for so many Textures, layers, and moody colors to come into play. That's exactly what I was saying the other day.

[Joe Getty]

Stole the words right out of my mouth. Good Lord.

[Jack Armstrong]

This season allows for textures, layers, and moody colors to come into play. I said to myself.

[Joe Getty]

And thank God for it. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Often referred to as the January of Fashion. I didn't know that. Fall is the January of fashion. It kind of kicks off the fashion season, I guess.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

I see autumn as a superior time for a closet audit and refresh. We all do that, right? Once a year, we do our closet.

[Joe Getty]

Audience refresh during the January of fashion. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

For me, a refresh starts not in stores or the depths of my wardrobe, but with my mood board. That's M O O D board. It's one word.

[Joe Getty]

I gotta look for mine. I left it here somewhere.

[Jack Armstrong]

My seasonal Pinterest boards includes much more than Runway images. This is what this person does every season to figure out what to wear.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sorry, is this a fellow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Writing this? No, no. Actually, this is a woman. In this case. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is a woman, I think. I collect shots from movie stills and album covers that remind me of the season. Celebrity, street style, old brand campaigns, color swatches, even random screenshots I found on my phone. Then I connect the dots between all the images I've collected, figuring out what the overall mood is. Are there any specific colors, styles and pieces that stand out? And that's like a murder board.

[Joe Getty]

Like only murders in the building, but it's a mood board.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's how she puts together her mood board to then do her audit of her closet for what she is going to wear this fall, which is the January of doing, as mentioned previously.

[Katie Greener]

Doing way too much here.

[Jack Armstrong]

The January.

[Joe Getty]

This sounds like a hell of a lot of work.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Something I find. I found that interesting. I hope you do, too. That there are people that live that way. I don't know what percentage of people. It must. Obviously it's enough people in New York that you have a person that gets paid to write this sort of stuff for the New York Times. There must be enough people to follow it that just. That couldn't be more foreign to me than in. In my family and my upbringing that I just. I don't even know if I can come up with an example of something.

[Joe Getty]

That was different civilization, different culture. Sure.

[Katie Greener]

Yeah. A bad female for this. As soon as it starts getting cold, it's sweater weather. That's it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sweater weather. Sweater weather.

[Joe Getty]

Weather. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

It goes on and on like that with the mood board and Then you're piecing together your.

[Katie Greener]

Yeah, that sounds so complicated.

[Joe Getty]

Are there any pictures of the mood board? Is it large?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. And they put it up on a wall. I can make an actual. A board of it. And so it is like taking in the photos from different. As they just explained here. And then the color swat.

[Joe Getty]

Album covers.

[Jack Armstrong]

Album covers.

[Katie Greener]

Oh, it's called mood boarding.

[Jack Armstrong]

Mood boarding is a. Yeah, it's its thing that you do every season to do an audit on your closet.

[Katie Greener]

I'm good.

[Joe Getty]

Tell me more. Katie. I'm. I'm seriously fascinated.

[Katie Greener]

I can't. I. I don't understand it.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, because it's like studying some African tribe that puts plates in their lips or something like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

It really is.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is that level of different from my upbringing. And I guess my question would be, am I closer to doing life right or are they closer to doing life right?

[Joe Getty]

You are.

[Katie Greener]

Yeah. I think that the way you do it, it's more realistic.

[Joe Getty]

This is excessive, I've got to admit. And there are many, many subcultures like this. This person takes this very, very seriously. When they do well at it, they feel fulfilled in their life.

[Jack Armstrong]

True. Which is not nothing.

[Joe Getty]

And they're proselytizing about how to do this, helping others, and I'll bet they feel good about that, too. And on the other hand, I'm sure they feel just sneering contempt for those who don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

So would that person. Like when that person looks at somebody who's going to the Home Depot on a Saturday in sweats, ratty tennis shoes, and the same hoodie that they've worn in the last five years with a Ford ball cap on, do they think.

[Joe Getty]

Or just a pair of running shoes and a pair of jeans and that very hoodie you discussed? I mean, you need not look like you just survived a tornado.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do they look at that person and think, what a sad, unfulfilled life.

[Joe Getty]

I don't think they're often in Home Depots in the. In the suburbs.

[Katie Greener]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

For one thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, okay. But if they were in a position to see that person.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Katie Greener]

Like judgy.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I think they would think that these are a bunch of unwashed, common dopes living a life that they have contempt for.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, right. Beyond just. I don't agree with their fashion sense, but into. They're living a sad, unfulfilled life. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I've known both personally intent and, like, once removed people like that. And they believe their life is so much more sophisticated and refined and just cool and important. Compared to the plain dressed morons schlepping around with kids in the suburbs.

[Jack Armstrong]

Cool. Yeah. So I guess what I'm trying to get to. There's cool, there's refined, those are things. But I mean, like meaningful, deep, that sort of stuff. Because I get the, you know, you dress cooler than somebody else, fine, but is there any meaning there? And I do they feel like they're getting meaning out of the fact that they're putting together a mood board every season and picking different clothes to wear?

[Joe Getty]

Well, well, I. I don't. Maybe you missed this. They're refining both their shades and their textures.

[Jack Armstrong]

So.

[Joe Getty]

That's a good point. It's much deeper than it sounds.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now, maybe this person has kids, but like, if they're not raising kids, friends.

[Joe Getty]

The kid is neglected.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trust me.

[Katie Greener]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

If they are. If they aren't raising kids but well dressed, I think of them what they would think of me. I think you're living a sad and meaningless, meaningless life where you're putting together mood boards every fall to slightly change the color of your pants as opposed to doing, you know, the really meaningful things of life. So, I mean, I guess it works both ways. I just, I just find mine easier to back up than theirs in terms of whose life is meaningful and whose isn't.

[Joe Getty]

If it were a debate, I would not love their chances.

[Katie Greener]

And I know this will shock you, but it does not appear that she.

[Jack Armstrong]

Has children colors and textures, as Joe keeps pointing out, because it's not just one or the other.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. How much time would it take just to put together the mood board, let alone go out and shop for the.

[Joe Getty]

Clothes that match it and what I need? And it's funny, my wife said something virtually. We like, stole the words out of each other's mouths the other day. What I need is some sort of high tech hanger that keeps track of how long it's been since you've removed an article of clothing from it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God.

[Joe Getty]

Thrown it upon your carcass.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was thinking about, and at some.

[Joe Getty]

Point, like a car that's been parked too long and the meters run out, there'd be a flashing red light. Dumbass. You haven't worn this golf shirt in three years. Why do you have it?

[Jack Armstrong]

Or longer. My closet, like, is packed to the gills and I struggle to get my jacket that I wear every day in there. I like, have to squish everything together to get my jacket in there. And like 99 of the stuff I'm squishing together. I don't know if I. I've worn it in years. I know. Not since I moved into this house, which is a year and a half ago. So why is it there? My mood board. I've really got to make a mood board.

[Joe Getty]

You know what? I really, I desperately need some sarcastic gay guy with a mood board to come into my closet and say, let's take a look at this. Do you expect to be hired as a low level loan officer at a bank anytime soon? No. Well, then get rid of all these dress shirts. You never wear them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, my consultant, my consultant would probably say, do you expect to find a time machine and go back 15 years.

[Joe Getty]

And then wear this? Or if not, perhaps you should get rid of it since you haven't worn.

[Jack Armstrong]

It in 15 years and that's the last time anybody wanted to see it.

[Joe Getty]

You have three different pair of old khakis that you're. You say you're keeping for lawn work, yard work. How often do you do yard work?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God, I gotta do that today. I just gotta take him to the Goodwill. And the fact that I spent good money on them and don't wear them, that's a soft costume. Come on. That's a fallacy. Honestly, I'm not doing anybody any good by keeping these in my closet taking up space.

[Katie Greener]

Do it with the seasons. That's what I do. So like right when we're getting, like right when we're coming up on the end of winter, I go, okay, I didn't wear any of that.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's perfect. Because the homeless has got their mood board and they want to dress for.

[Katie Greener]

The fall textures and all of the things.

[Joe Getty]

Of course, the end of winter is fashion summer.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, right. This is fashion January. So I gotta jump on it right now. We will finish strong.

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[Katie Greener]

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[Joe Getty]

Shows you know theirs that doesn't just sparkle but speaks. From new festive charms to forever rings.

[Katie Greener]

And personal engravings, this season give a.

[Joe Getty]

Gift that's perfectly theirs.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whether you're shopping for a shiny surprise.

[Katie Greener]

For your significant other, matching bracelets to.

[Joe Getty]

Celebrate your friendship, or a heartfelt gift for a family member, say more this holiday season with Pandora.

[Katie Greener]

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[Jack Armstrong]

What do I do?

[Announcer]

This is the moment the Morgan family's docile Halloween decoration transformed into a runaway pumpkin, giving mom Katie a spirited scare. What was going through your mind at this point? I thought it was going to take out the neighborhood, hit the cars. I was just thinking that I was gonna be dealing with the aftermath of the catastrophic pumpkin going down the streets. After 12 minutes, Katie manages to wrangle the runaway by unzipping its sides.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've had that happen in the past. Did not happen this year. With a giant inflatable pumpkin. Ran away in the wind. Luckily I didn't got any windy days this year, so did not have that problem. I just saw Mum. Donnie went to six nightclubs Saturday night. Friday he went out trick or treating with cameras at his side. Look like a regular guy. And then Saturday night he was at six different nightclubs in which he was announced by the dj and the crowd went wild with enthusiasm that he was there. Did a little dancing and talking about how come Tuesday night we'll take this city back. No more paying for buses, no more hunger, no more whatever he's promising.

[Joe Getty]

I say no vote until you're 32. I was gonna go with 30, but let's be safe.

[Jack Armstrong]

He just turned 34. I don't. I don't know. The young thing doesn't bother me near as much as the, you know, socialism.

[Joe Getty]

No, I'm talking about voters, not candidates.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, he's 34.

[Joe Getty]

He's old enough. But you can't vote until you're 32.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I know. It drives my kids crazy that I call a 30 year old a kid. But Katie, you're lucky you're close to being a kid. I don't feel like it.

[Joe Getty]

Amen to that, sister. You know what? I can't believe we didn't get to today, Jack, given your enthusiasm for the story, was the mom in Mississippi who gunned down one of those diseased research monkeys?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Came into her backyard, threatened her kids. Kerblooey, bluey.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would hate to shoot a monkey.

[Joe Getty]

Even if it's got any dirty hairy on that disease dripping monkey. Well, you need to man up. Admit me chorus to this history who Prologue. Like your humble patience, pray gently to hear kindly to judge the final thoughts of Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap things up for the day. There he is, pressing the buttons, our technical director, Michelangelo Michael. Final thought? Yeah. The thing I learned today is early in the show, it was about Friday the 13th. It's a great way to teach teens about the dangers of premarital sex.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's right. You get undressed with your high school girlfriend, you're going to get your head sawed off.

[Joe Getty]

Wrong. We need more babies. Look at the birth rate. Let's get it on. Katie Greener, esteemed newswoman. As a final thought, Katie, I know.

[Katie Greener]

Several 20 somethings that live in New York City and they're all for mom Donnie. And they all have zero idea about.

[Joe Getty]

Politics or what he's going to do. It's amazing. Yeah, you need a poll test. Has that been tried? Jack, a final thought for us.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, if you'd like to Big politics. Tomorrow's gonna be a tough day to take. I mean, if you lean right, it's gonna, it's gonna be rough.

[Joe Getty]

I'm Prop 15 monster in Virginia gets elected too with fantasizing about the deaths of the children of his opponents.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's gonna be a rough day.

[Joe Getty]

My final thought is between football and the World Series. Oh, I've got to stop watching sports. I know what you mean, Jack. I was, the next night I was like, oh, there's no World Series game. That's right. But it's, it's just too much. Too much to everything. There is a season. The baseball season is over.

[Jack Armstrong]

Man, that was a fun week though. I loved every bite. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Joe Getty]

So many people thanks. So little time. Go to armstronggetty.com oh my gosh. The AMG swag store is going wild. People are digging the hoodie. Your favorite. A G fan would love something under the tree at Christmas time. Maybe, maybe it's even just for you. One for you, one for me. Armstrong and Yeti.com hit the hot links. Katie's corner. Drop us note [e-mail] see you tomorrow.

[Jack Armstrong]

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