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But the President's patience does appear to be running thin. The White House, we know, is actively reviewing sanctions options, and already the Senate has a veto proof bill ready to go that would slap 500% tariffs on any country that buys Russian energy. And you're already hearing from some Congressional Republicans say that they are ready to see the Senate act with or without the White House's green light.
Jack Armstrong
Man, there is a lot here. And don't, don't roll your eyes or sigh about talking about Ukraine and Russia, because this is reading, reaching a serious inflection point that we're, we're either gonna be out or we're gonna be way in, I think. So. Last night, Trump, as we were talking about yesterday over the weekend, you know, he said, I don't know what happened to Vladimir. He's gone crazy. I mean, all this killing and what, what the hell is happening here? And most people's reaction was, Vladimir Putin has always been like this. And either you knew that or you didn't, or I'm no one not sure what's going on here. But anyway, so the end of any truths out last night. What Vladimir Putin doesn't realize is that if it weren't for me, lots of really bad things would have already happened to Russia. And I mean really bad in all caps. He's playing with fire. Which was a heck of a post from the leader of the United States. I mean, we're all so used to Trump's bombast. I mean, if you try to picture that in the mouth of George Bush or Barack Obama, it'd be. Well, it'd be a stop the presses moment. It'd be holy crap.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Mm.
Jack Armstrong
The response from Russia, we want to say, or do we want one of our reporters to say it?
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Let's go ahead. They've got it in front of them. 50B.
Jack Armstrong
Okay.
Broadcasting Host
Medvedev writes regarding Trump's words about Putin playing with fire and really bad things happening to Russia. I only know of one really bad thing. World War Three. I hope Trump understands this.
Jack Armstrong
So that's either the most serious thing I've ever heard in my life, or it's just an empty threat.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Right.
Jack Armstrong
And everybody.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Such is the nature of bluffing.
Jack Armstrong
Right. I don't think Russia has any interest in getting involved in World War iii. But so far, the bluff of we might use nukes kept Joe Biden on his heels. The in his entire presidency, as is reported in Bob Woodward's book and David Sanger's book about the inner workings of the White House. When Anthony Blinken wanted to push harder, Joe Biden was really, really worried about starting World War iii.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Yeah, well, Joe Biden woke up on his heels, as I often say, his belt and Trump Velcrode heels. But, but Trump is a very, very different gu. I'm thinking about Vladimir Putin and his calculations and his goals, which are to restore the glory of the czarist and Soviet Russian republics or empires. And I could see him calculating that pushing to the very, very brink of World War 3, including massive casualties, would be worth the effort. I could see him making that calculation fairly easily. It's not even a stretch.
Jack Armstrong
Well, I think we know what his thinking is, at least. Richard Engel claims he has sources inside the intelligence agencies that believe they know what Putin's strategy is. I think that's interesting, and I'll save that until we hear from Tammy Bruce, who is currently a State Department spokesman. This is what she says Trump is thinking.
Broadcasting Host
It was very obvious from his truth social posts that his patience has worn thin, but it's not even really about patience. It's what every American is feeling when you're looking at, as the president described, indiscriminate bombing on civilian areas, killing civilians in increasing bombing runs and drone attacks, especially when there's been such a concerted effort by the Trump administration and others to stop that carnage between Ukraine and Russia.
Jack Armstrong
Now, so the way I took that of her saying you can tell from President Trump's truth social is that she's going off his posts as opposed to personal conversations. I mean, she's, she's guessing at his thinking the same way we are by looking at what his posts are.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Right. Well, in the whole humanitarian appeal, I don't. How is anybody still going with that? Putin doesn't care. Well, yeah, he never cared. He's made it infinitely clear how little he cares.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. On that line, here's, Here's a little more of Tammy Bruce.
Broadcasting Host
It's clear to both parties and to the world that this cannot be solved with violence or, or more military action. And so the president, who noted in his post that he's known Putin for quite some time, feels that something has happened to him and he's unable to explain it. And clearly he's, he's quite frustrated enough to express that outrage in public.
Jack Armstrong
See, I feel like Trump. Trump has many times hung various cabinet members, spokespeople out to dry because they Go out, try to speak for him, Then he comes out later in the day and says something completely different. And because they're, They're. They're often guessing at what he thinks. I don't know if they just don't have conversations with him or what she sounds like she's just guessing, and she.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Is clearly just reinterpreting his tweets.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, right. And so Richard Engel on NBC News said he talked to people in the intelligence department. And this makes sense to me. I mentioned yesterday, I don't know why this took several days to report, but Trump had told reporters in the Middle east that. I'm paraphrasing because I don't have in front of me right now, but this wasn't my war. This is Zelensky. This is Putin. This is Biden's war. This isn't mine war. We shouldn't have gotten involved, which made me feel like he's gonna do the whole. And J.D. vance later in the week last week said, you know, if we see that nobody cares, you know, we might have had enough of this. So I'm worried they're going to just walk away, because I personally think we need to support Ukraine. But that's what Richard Engels reporting was that people in the intelligence department to believe Putin's thinking is Putin thinks Trump's close to getting so frustrated and feeling like he'll just throw up his hands, you know, whatever. You all work it out and walk away, which is a win for Putin. Putin knows it's a win for him if the United States is off the table and out of it. It's absolutely a win for Putin. So that's why he launched the biggest drone attack of the entire war over the weekend. He's trying to drive home the point in Trump's head that, look, I'm not interested in peace, and you believe Zelensky hates me too much or something like that. So Trump throws up his hands and walks away from the whole thing. That's Putin's thinking right now, which makes sense to me.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Right, Right. I would agree completely. And I don't want to waste a lot of time on Tammy Bruce, but her statement that this cannot be solved through war. Wait a minute. What Putin's trying to solve is, I want more territory. So, yeah, yeah, it can be.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I'm gonna take the whole country unless somebody stops me.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
If it's spin, it's spin. That's fine. Spin away. It's your job. But if it's just naivete, I don't get it at all. So there are a couple of developments that I think are very, very significant. If that wraps up your what you wanted to present. Number one, we talked earlier about Friedrich Merz, the leader of Germany these days, much more a hard ass previous guy, saying that we are removing any limits on weapon range. We're letting the Ukrainians shoot them as far in to Russia as they want. And the White House did not comment. That was deafening silence. That was not even a hint of. Whoa, wait a minute. So I find that interesting. Yeah. I might as well take a little detour into the Senate here. Senator Chuck Grassley tweeted.
Jack Armstrong
I saw this yesterday. Yeah.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
That he thought Trump was sincere in thinking his friendship with Putin would end the war. Now he added it was time for sanctions. Strong enough that this Russia leader knows game over. And watching these guys trying to manage up, trying to not offend Trump, to wait till Trump shows a sign that it's okay to say what you believe. And now they're saying what they believe. That's fine. Everybody has to manage up in their lives and careers. But. So Trump is also considering abandoning peace negotiations altogether. It's unclear what would happen as you were describing. Uh, but allies such as Lindsey Graham told Trump Putin does not want a deal. Finally. And only punishments would make him seriously negotiate. Um, three key views colored Trump's thinking. Official said. First is dislike for Zelensky, who Trump felt encouraged further conflict by pushing for sanctions. I believe that's ridiculous. On Sunday, as he blasted Putin, Trump also criticized Zelensky. Ah, let's see. Second, Trump also thought additional sanctions on Russia would not curb its ability to wage war, but would hamper efforts to revive U.S. russian economic ties. You might as well try. I think that ship has sailed. But in third, Trump felt he knew that Putin and the Russian leader. I'm sorry. Trump felt that he knew Putin and that the Russian leader would end the war as a personal favor.
Jack Armstrong
No way. Lindsey Graham said that.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Officials said, that's nuts. I would agree. Here's the really interesting part. Graham, a couple of weeks ago introduced a bill imposing strict new sanctions on Moscow. I mean real ones, nasty ones. And it now has more than 80 co sponsors in the Senate. Practically everybody. Way beyond veto proof. The Sanctioning Russia act of 25, which Graham introduced with Senator Rich and Bloom, Richard Blumenthal, D Connecticut, would impose a bunch of sanctions, blah, blah, blah. We can get into the particulars if you want. And one more, which Europe is on.
Jack Armstrong
Board with, which is important, right.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
100%. And one more note from the Senate. This is very Trumpy. Hard ass, friend of the Armstrong. You Getty Show Senator mark Wayne Mullen in 56 MDOG. The President has been very patient with, with Putin. At the same time, he's trying to clean up a mess that he didn't start right. He's been very clear from day one he wanted the killing to stop. He's tried to work with Putin. His patience is running thin. And if Putin continues to push this envelope the way that he is, he's going to give Zelensky the tools he needs to fight back on the full scale and full support of the United States. But Europe needs to take a lead.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. I hope that's true.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
He gives Zelensky everything he needs and the usual, but Europe needs to take the lead.
Jack Armstrong
I hope that's true. I, I, I don't know. The ball is in Trump's court on this more than it ever has been. One guy is going to make a huge decision and we're either going to be in on supporting Ukraine in lots of different ways with the harsh sanctions, with the military help, with the intelligence help, all of that, or Trump is going to go with the what he's hinted at and JD Vance have hinted at. Look, we tried to solve it. You two, you, your squabble, your, your land battle over territorial dispute. Go ahead and figure it out. Not my business. Or we're going to do that. And I don't have the slightest idea which direction it's going to be.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Three quick thoughts. Number one, J.D. vance and Lindsey Graham are staging a battle royale behind the scenes. I'll bet two, two headlines which you don't have time to flesh out, but we can next hour. Number one, the US Reinforces Europe's northern front, fearing war with Russia in in quest to make NATO more lethal, the Pentagon turns to the high north and the Baltics. So behind the scenes, we are beefing up NATO and making them more lethal. Exactly where Russia needs to be contained. Interesting. And secondly, headline from the Wall Street Journal that Jack referenced, Putin has retooled Russia's economy Economy to focus only on war. Moscow expands military recruitment and boosts weapons production. And peace could jeopardize economic gains.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. And Richard Engel on NBC News Today said what you said yesterday. He was asked by the hosts about the ceasefire talks. He said there aren't any ceasefire talks. That's what you said yesterday, which is true.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Richard Engel, known as Joe Getty, a day later in the business who's pretending.
Jack Armstrong
There are ceasefire talks going on yeah, come on. What the hell? Okay, we got more on the ways there.
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Jack Armstrong
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Maybe you could put your new Starbucks summer drink in your cooler. Four new Starbucks summer drinks I want to mention, and there's a reason I want to mention them in just a second. But first this I'm dropping off my car today, which I'm going to sell to get the wrap taking off. Taken off. And a little wrap info that you might not know. Wraps, one of the coolest things to come to cars and you know, ever. And, and you know, you see all these cool colors around, whether they're stripes or just a color that the, that maker doesn't offer or whatever. I feel like a fifth of the cars I see have a wrap on them.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
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Jack Armstrong
You probably see cars with wraps all the time. You just don't know it probably.
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So.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I always ask my son, I say, wow, that's cool. Does that come in that color? He said that comes that color. How about that one? No, that doesn't. That's a wrap. Because you can't tell. You can't tell a rap from a paint job. But if you see a really cool color, that's interesting. I don't even know if automotive companies, they might stop offering lots of different colors because they realize people are just going to get it wrapped anyway. So what's the point? Anywho, wrap costs about two, $3,000 to get what? And you know, a paint job, if you get a real paint job that's going to look that good, gonna cost you more like 15, $20,000. So the difference being a wrap does not last that long. It's like three to five years. It starts to look a little ragged. And that's kind of where mine is. I've had it for four years on my Tesla plaid, which did not come in the color that it currently is. And, but I'm getting it removed so I can sell it, get it back to her. It costs a thousand dollars to remove it.
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Jack Armstrong
The hood is a big giant mypony, right? Yeah, very, very.
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It's. It's cute.
Jack Armstrong
Anyway, going to cost about a grand to get it taken off. So it is way cheaper than a paint job. But if you did it, if you kept the car for a long time, you'd be better off getting a paint job.
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Jack Armstrong
That's a good idea. The four drinks for Starbucks that they're announcing today for summer firework. Frappuccino. Brown sugar Strato. Frappuccino. God, how many calories and fat grams in each of these, the salted caramel maca Strato frappuccino and then this strawberry matcha. What's matcha? Do you know what matcha is? This is where I wish Matcha. What is that?
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Yeah, it's like a. Is it rice based drink?
Jack Armstrong
All I know is this. Any place that has matcha in the title in San Francisco or the town I live in has a line out the door right now. They're like, if you're a cool person, you drink matcha, whatever the hell that is.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Matcha.
Jack Armstrong
I ain't standing in line for nothing, so I won't taste one until the lines die down.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Summer drinks. They're fancy milkshakes.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, absolutely. I was going to talk about a mom and her hyperactive son getting one of these drinks the other day. I'll have to talk about that later. It's a sad story, but we got more important things to get to. Hope you can stick around.
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This is a big theme in the book, that they were lying not just to press and not just to the country. They were lying to cabinet secretaries, Democrats in Congress. I'm not excusing any of these people, but I'm just saying, in many ways, I think they were also lying to themselves.
Jack Armstrong
Jake Tapper, if you don't recognize the voice, continuing to go around and tout his book exposing something everyone already knew. Although a lot of the details in it are actually interesting. And I continue to read the book. I mean, it's interesting enough to get me to read several pages every night. It's just kind of odd.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Yeah, it's the aspect of it where a Jake Tapper dropped. Dropped his gun and said, I'm a victim. I'm not on the gang. I'm not in the gang. I'm a victim here. That everybody is so disgusted by the idea that, oh, those, those Dan. White House officials lied to us and we believed it. We were taken in. They pulled the will over, I assume.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I mean, I've complained about this in several other ways. Jose Canseco is a good example. The baseball player who outed everybody else for roids. What was the dude who was friends with Lance Armstrong who finally turned on him and then writes a book. And. And my complaint has always been, okay, you were fine with the scam as long as it benefited you, and now you're switching and benefiting from outing other people. Okay, so you do what is in your best interest at all points. Yet Jose Canseco's story about everybody using steroids was still damned interesting. Finding out how top level Lance Armstrong bike writers cheated the system was still interesting, regardless of the fact that I didn't like the source.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
So a new source or at least a more fleshed out source coming up in a moment or two. But a quick couple of notes from some stuff we referenced yesterday, Andrew Stiles and the Free Beacon which is really a terrific outlet if you're not into it and he's a great writer but. And he says about the book and the publicity towards maddening really. Go back and watch the tape of Tapper insisting without evidence that Biden was mentally sharp in September of 23. We now know that in the preceding months Biden had turned in a series of awful performances at fundraisers that left some donors worried that quote he might not make it to election day.
Jack Armstrong
And the idea that Jake Tapper isn't in touch with the kind of heavyweights who were at those big dollar fundraisers. Come on, he knows these people who he hangs out with.
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This was around the time the authors revealed that a handful of unnamed Biden aides had become convinced the President was too brain dead to serve another term. They started leaking stories about Biden's limitations to Thompson. Alex Thompson, one of the only mainstream journalists to report on the decline. Was Thompson the only reporter these aides ever contacted? Almost certainly not what happened. In June of 24, Annie Lynske and Siobhan Hughes of the Wall Street Journal published a story on Biden's decline. As promised. They were instantly denounced as right wing fabulists. Not just by the White House aides and other Democrats. Many so called journalists joined the pylon including some CNN guys. Tapper's response to the Journal story was also in line with White House talking points. He echoed Darcy's concerns about the sourcing while noting that the paper was owned by conservative billionaire Robert Rupert Murdoch.
Jack Armstrong
He threw that in. Keeping in mind that last week he called these writers heroes when he had them on the show.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Yeah, exactly. He interviewed one of Biden's most ardent supporters, Chris Coons of Delaware.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, that was, that's the, this is the one that makes me the maddest. If you, if you haven't watched this, this was the he presents. People are believe Joe Biden's brain doesn't work. Then he lets Coons shoot it down, make all kinds of ridiculous complaint claims and Tapper pushes back not a bit.
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And quickly changes the topic to Taiwan. Last week Megyn Kelly asked Tapper why he didn't invite Linsky and Hughes on his show the Wall Street Journal Gals to discuss the reporting. Tapper's defensive response was positively Bidenesque. Quote I don't know what the booking situation was, Megan. If we're gonna do this. Let's just stick to the facts here, okay?
Jack Armstrong
I can't believe he's getting away with this.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
And then, then he's. Now he's going out of his way to praise the heroic reporters and denounce the smear campaign against him. How gracious of him. Which leads us to a piece. Dean Phillips, the plucky young congressman who had the gall to run against Biden or try for the 2024 elections. He's written a piece in the Free Press that ought to be quoted in every news outlet around the country. If a. His subhead is. If a relatively little known congressman like me knew that Biden was incapable of leading the country in a second term, what does that say about the complicity of the real party bosses? This week, journalist Alec Thompson. Jake. Jake Tapper. Released a bombshell book, blah, blah, blah. Also this week, Biden's spokesperson decided to announce the former president has stage four prostate cancer. Coincidence? I think not. And he goes into the fact that Biden slipped up in 2022. I mentioned this the other day. He said, I just found out I have cancer. But anyway. And then the White House never followed up on it. He knew he had cancer. Common sense tells us the most powerful man in the world with access to the best health care in the world would have surely known.
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I know, I know that they don't recommend you get tested for a PSA after a certain. That doesn't apply to the President of the United States because it's got to do with all kinds of different insurance things and healthcare, this and that. And it doesn't apply to the President of the United States who has the best healthcare in the world. Trump got his PSA tested, right?
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
And he goes, and Dean Phillips goes into the fact that he's demanded greater transparency and accountability from his party for ages and is outraged that the important lessons from the top scandal have not been learned. Constantly lying and gaslighting the public about Biden's health has cost the Democratic Party the public's trust. Rebuilding it first requires the courage and honesty to admit what happened. And here's what happened. He writes in 2021. I had a front row seat on two occasions when he addressed the House Democratic Caucus. This is in 21, friends. I also spent time in close proximity to The President during two flights on Air Force One in 21 and 22, where I was alarmed to see the President's obvious decline in communication skills, gait and leadership ability. After the White House holiday party in December 22, which the president's decline was too graphic to ignore. I was left with no doubt in my mind Biden was unfit to serve a second term. My opinion was not an outlier. My congressional colleagues, like me, had eyes behind closed doors. We acknowledged the reality, lamented our party leaders inaction, and recognized the impending disaster awaiting us in 2024.
Jack Armstrong
Well, he was right about that. If you're a Democrat, it was a disaster.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
And here's why I wanted to get to this. And I'd been to say this up front, but I forgot. This is about Jake Tapper and the book and Joe Biden and the Democratic leadership. It's also just a glimpse inside the machine how it really runs. Not the way they tell you it runs. How it really runs. So he says. He and all his congressional colleagues agreed. After many of the same hushed conversations, I tried to impress a sense of urgency. I made calls to potential presidential candidates like Illinois Governor J.B. pritzker and Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer to urge them to run. They didn't even want their names mentioned, let alone to return my calls.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Frustrated, I went public, calling for an open primary. I implored prominent Democrats like California Governor Gavin Newsom, Minnesota Senator Amy Klobuchar, and Vice President Kamala Harris to throw their hats in the ring. But cometh to the moment cameth nobody. By the fall of 23, I realized not only that Biden was in serious decline, but that the polling was clearly showing he couldn't win. Yeah, my party was sleepwalking into a second Trump term. So with no one else willing to step forward, I entered the race. And then he gets into the way he was treated and how the media all lined up to say he was a crank and a climber and a liar. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
It was treated as a joke.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Yeah. Yeah. He was announced proactively.
Jack Armstrong
He wasn't kind of right. He was 100% right.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
He goes into, you know, CNN and MSNBC. Then the DNC announced proactively that there would be no debates.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, oh, talk. Yeah, there you go. If there had been a debate, the Joe Biden moment, a primary debate, the Joe Biden moment might have come many months earlier.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Right.
Jack Armstrong
Which would have give the Democrats time to get another candidate.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
And I think it's worth pointing out, as you did earlier in the show, this was a terrible miscalculation. This got Trump reelected or elected. It could be argued that, you know, it would overstate it to say Biden was the only guy or the stupid moron Kamala Harris were the only people who could lose to Trump because that's not true. He ran a pretty effective campaign, but they ensured he would win by running Biden than Kamala. So as usual, the folks who crow constantly about democracy, democracy, democracy. Had zero trust in democracy. They wanted to fix the game, as usual.
Jack Armstrong
And by the way, though, Trump's win was pretty solid electorally. There's only like 140,000 votes in three states. You flip and he loses.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Right. So one more note and then I'll shut the heck up. Because the loss of trust that the media has so richly earned is in full flower now. Nobody trusts the media. And. And we made reference to, you know, why would people trust the man well, earned that. Well, yeah. And a couple of our beloved listeners sent along this list and I've actually edited it it and brought it down to the core stuff, the most important stuff, I think. How many recent mainstream media hoaxes did you fall for? Russian collusion and the Steele dossier. The Inflation Reduction act will reduce inflation. Trump called neo Nazis. Fine people. The juicy Smollett case. The Bubba Wallace garage poll news hunter. Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. The Covington kids, right? The Kavanaugh rape. Trump said drinking bleach would fight Covid. The Trump pee pee tape. Covid lab leak was a conspiracy theory. Border agents whipped migrants.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, another good one.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
The Muslim travel ban.
Jack Armstrong
Complete lie. And no and no. Paid no price for it. Well, you ultimately paid a price for it and nobody believes you anymore.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Yeah, and your businesses are dying. Muslim travel ban. Andrew Cuomo is showing the best Covid leadership. Trump built cages for migrant kids. The what's his face was an austere religious scholar. All right, Is that Yaya Zinwar? Sinwar.
Jack Armstrong
No, that was.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Was the ISIS guy. Yes, you're right.
Jack Armstrong
Baghdad.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
The austere religious scholar Trump overfed koi fish in Japan. Build back better, will pay for itself. Trump tax cuts benefited only the rich. Cloth max masks prevent Covid. If you get vaccinated, you won't catch COVID An SUV killed parade marchers, not the driver. Where was I? Trump used tear gas to clear a crowd for a bible photo. Don't say gay was in the bill.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Putin price hikes. Ivermectin is a horse dewormer. Not for humans. Mostly peaceful protests. And Trump overpowered the Secret Service for the wheel of the peace. The list goes on and on.
Jack Armstrong
Right, the list I saw included hands up, don't shoot, which never ever happened.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Right, that ought to be on here. It's going back a Few years, but.
Jack Armstrong
Of course, yeah, you. You earned your reputation. Mainstream media. The problem is. I understand it, but it's ultimately bad for all of us that we don't trust the media, because that is going to reap a whirlwind that's not good for any of us.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Put on your whirlwind jacket.
Jack Armstrong
They caught some more of those escaped convicts that had all the help from the various janitors and whatnot. They caught some more of them.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Plus the Secret Service cat fight. Have you heard about this?
Jack Armstrong
Oh, barely. I want to hear more, though. Stay tuned.
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Two more escaped inmates from a New Orleans jail were taken back into custody. Their capture in Huntsville, Texas, just north of Houston. The other inmate caught in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. That makes three inmates in the last 24 hours. Now back behind bars more than a week after their shocking escape, two of the 10 fugitives are still at large and considered armed and dangerous. And street savvy. Antwan Massie, with a record of breaking out of jail. This one, his third escape. And Derrick Groves, who was convicted of killing two people. U.S. marshals say they probably aren't acting alone. Yeah, while I can understand why you don't want to be in prison, the success rate of escaping, getting out, and then like staying out for any length of time has got to be incredibly low.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
And it's a heck of a gamble because it's not like you just go back and serve out your sentence. You got a brand new one right on top for escape.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, a couple of. First of all, Tinder, the online dating app that has a certain reputation, is out to change your reputation. I can explain that in just a little bit. We got this text, by the way, on a different topic, guys, I about died when I heard how white and old you sounded missing Katie. Before I even launched into the segment they're about to reference, I said, I wish Katie was here.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
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She is our young correspondent.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
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Jack Armstrong
When you were trying to promote pronounce Matcha, it's pronounced Matcha, like gotcha. And it's green tea powder, not a rice based whatever the hell Joe said.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
At least I got the name right. You don't know some alternate drink?
Jack Armstrong
In my defense, I would say even if I were 40, I probably still wouldn't know what this is because it's just not my sort of thing.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Yeah. Sir or madam, I've known him for many, many years. And no, he was like this when he was young.
Jack Armstrong
And I see. But like I was in San Francisco over the weekend and there was a line out the door. Any place that's got Matcha in the name of the place.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
And my son said his buddy is like, oh yeah, he talks about Matcha all the time. He's got one friend who's like super whatever's hot, music, clothes, drink that. You got to be into it before ever before. Other people are. And then you got to get out of it before other people get out of it. That's the end of it.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Denounce it the minute you're out of.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, you're still doing that. That's lame. Exactly. You have to do that.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Okay, so all that's coming up. Fans of high level law enforcement cat fights. Boy, do we have the video for you. Two Secret Service babes were outside Obama's residence, former President Barack Hussein Obama in Washington D.C. last week. And apparently they got into some sort of disagreement. And about 2:30 in the morning one of them called for a supervisor to come immediately, quote, before I whoop this girl's ass. According to an audio recording posted online, which we will effort getting for you.
Colby Ekowitz
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Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
What the.
Jack Armstrong
It had to be over a dude. I mean what, what would they possibly actually get into a fight about?
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
Well, I don't know. You're there. It's, it's 2:30 in the morning. A little disagreement flares up. Maybe somebody told somebody to do something. They resented the tone.
Jack Armstrong
I guess that could be.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
I've seen the videotape though and it was, you know when a fight is just 1/2 an inch short of haymakers raining down on heads where there's shoving and aggressive wrestling and the rest of it. It got to that point, they actually were shoving. Oh yeah, it was a, it was a physical conflict. The two of them in their bulletproof vests and everything.
Jack Armstrong
Man, I don't want to go dei, but these. You are not Secret Service outside a former president's house material. If you're going to get in a fight with a co worker over some sort of beef, you're not cut out for that job.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
The individuals, the Secret Service has said the individuals involved were suspended from duty. And this matters the subject of an internal investigation. The Secret Service has a very strict code of conduct for all employees and any behavior that violates that code is unacceptable.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, that. Well, I would say it is. Another black eye for the Secret Service. Yeah, they've had a few. So the guy who's running Tinder now says he wants to change your reputation from a hookup app. I've never online dated and probably never will. So I only know everything anecdotally from what people have said. But it being a hookup app, he says Gen X was into that. Gen Z is not, it's not a hookup generation. They don't drink as much, they don't have as much sex. We need to change our product and it's going to be more about trying to find better matches, not more matches. Which good luck with that. I think the culture is not going to work for that.
Armstrong and Getty Co-Host
But one thing I thought was really interesting, they introduced this in Europe and it's working well is double dating. You and a friend match up with a couple of people and go out.
Jack Armstrong
I have thoughts on this, but it might have to happen in hour three.
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Podcast: Armstrong & Getty On Demand
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Release Date: May 28, 2025
In the "They Call it Mah-Cha!" episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty navigate through a whirlwind of topics ranging from international politics and media trust to cultural phenomena and humorous personal anecdotes. This episode is a blend of serious discussions and light-hearted banter, providing listeners with both insightful analysis and entertaining commentary.
A significant portion of the episode delves into the escalating tensions between Ukraine and Russia, focusing on former President Donald Trump's recent statements and their implications for global politics.
Trump's Remarks and Putin's Reaction:
Putin's Strategy and U.S. Political Dynamics:
Legislative Developments:
Media and Intelligence Insights:
The hosts critically examine the erosion of trust in mainstream media, highlighting numerous instances where media outlets have faltered.
List of Media Missteps:
Impact on Public Perception:
The episode shifts focus to internal Democratic Party dynamics, particularly concerning President Joe Biden’s health and leadership capabilities.
Concerns Within the Democratic Party:
Impact on the 2024 Election:
In addition to political discourse, Armstrong and Getty sprinkle the episode with light-hearted segments and cultural observations.
Car Wraps vs. Paint Jobs:
Starbucks Summer Drinks:
Secret Service Incident:
Tinder’s Strategic Shift:
Jack Armstrong (03:09):
"Man, there is a lot here. And don't, don't roll your eyes or sigh about talking about Ukraine and Russia, because this is reaching a serious inflection point..."
Putin's Official Response (05:07):
"World War Three. I hope Trump understands this."
Jack Armstrong (39:12):
"The problem is ... it's ultimately bad for all of us that we don't trust the media, because that is going to reap a whirlwind that's not good for any of us."
"They Call it Mah-Cha!" offers a comprehensive exploration of pressing international issues, the deteriorating trust in mainstream media, and internal political challenges within the United States. Through incisive analysis and engaging dialogue, Armstrong and Getty provide listeners with a nuanced understanding of complex topics while maintaining their signature blend of humor and relatability.
Disclaimer: This summary excludes advertisements, intros, outros, and non-content sections as per the podcast guidelines. All timestamps correspond to the original transcript provided.