They Found a Trained Gorilla

Summary

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Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "They Found a Trained Gorilla"
Date: September 3, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

Overview

This episode of Armstrong & Getty dives into several major current events with their characteristic irreverence and critical analysis. The central themes include U.S. military action against Venezuelan drug smugglers, the international implications of labeling groups as "terrorists," AI-generated misinformation, freedom of speech concerns in the UK, demographic shifts in America, viral White House rumors, the ongoing Epstein case, and the political upheaval sweeping Europe in response to immigration. The episode mixes pointed commentary, skepticism, and humor—demonstrating the duo's style as they question media narratives and governmental responses.

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Major Topics & Discussion Points

U.S. Military Strike on Venezuelan Drug Boat

(03:59 - 13:47)

• Incident Overview:
  The episode begins with hosts reacting to reports of a U.S. strike on a Venezuelan drug-running boat, allegedly killing 11 gang members linked to the Tren de Aragua.

  • President Trump released a video of the strike.
  • Debate centers on the language of the coverage ("claimed" vs "said") and the justification for such military force.

• Host Skepticism Over 'Terrorist' Label:

  • "The word claimed is a prejudicial term." – Joe Getty (04:28)
  • Discussion on the trend of labeling drug organizations as "narco terrorists" to justify extreme action.
  • Jack Armstrong: "I thought a decade ago the term terrorist had lost its usefulness." (05:06)
  • Critique of the U.S.'s readiness to execute drug dealers abroad despite different practices at home—"Those people got the death penalty and the trial was very short." – Joe Getty (10:07)

• Build-Up & Policy Implications:

  • Reports on significant U.S. military deployments near Venezuela, including destroyers, a missile cruiser, and 2,500 Marines.
  • Joe questions America's strategy: "I don't know if we're prepared for, but we appear to be capable of a full Normandy beach landing there in Venezuela if we want to." (08:14)
  • Armstrong calls for a more assertive foreign policy: "No, let's go over there and whoop their ass...within reasonable parameters a little more aggressive exercise of our national prerogatives." (08:28)

• Philosophical Debate:

  • The nature of power, global morals, and the risks of setting a precedent as the world's unilateral enforcer.
  • "How long do we get to be the only country on planet Earth that just snuffs people? Whenever, wherever, when we decide it's important." – Joe Getty (13:47)
  • Armstrong: "Until somebody's strong enough to a) make a stop or do it themselves." (14:06)

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AI, Fake News, and Misinformation

(15:36 - 16:14; 31:49 - 34:44)

• Maduro’s AI Denial:

  • After the Venezuelan boat strike, Maduro’s regime claims the video is AI-generated disinformation—an expected dodge, according to the hosts.
  • Armstrong: "Yeah, it was AI. The guys on the boat AI went in that direction…" (15:57)

• Viral White House Video Rumor:

  • A viral video purportedly shows someone throwing a bag from an open White House window.
  • Trump says the video is fake, citing that the windows are sealed and armored.
  • "Let me see that video." – Trump, reviewing the footage directly (33:02)
  • White House confirms the video as real but attributes it to contractor maintenance.
  • "They found a way or got a permit or had a trained gorilla open the windows or something." – Armstrong jokes (34:38)
  • Significance: Showcases both the ease of misinformation and official attempts to fact-check rumors in the AI era.

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Freedom of Speech & Censorship in the UK

(21:02 - 25:56; 46:24 - 50:29)

• The Arrest of Graham Linehan:

  • Irish comedy writer Graham Linehan was arrested in the UK over tweets considered offensive by authorities.
  • Armstrong recounts: "He was met by five armed police officers…over three tweets." (22:08)
    • Linehan’s tweets: Critiquing trans issues, calling for reporting, and insulting rally photos.
  • Released on the condition he stop posting to X (formerly Twitter).
  • Joe Getty: "[Charles C.W.] Cook points out, the fact that they arrested him at Heathrow shows...that was like a real planned out [operation]." (25:23)
  • Framing the story as a dire warning about free speech: "The UK has become a country that is hostile to freedom of speech, hostile to women, and far accommodating to the demands of violent, entitled, abusive men who have turned the police into their personal goon squad." – Linehan (24:10, summarized)

• Broader European Turbulence:

  • Armstrong: "This is such a huge headline: for the first time, populist or far right parties are leading the polls in the UK, France, and Germany." (48:54)
  • Explanation: Public backlash against mass immigration and the suppression of dissent.
  • Armstrong: "The European authorities...have made an unholy bed and now they’re trying to lie in it. The resolution of this is not going to be pretty and it is not going to be easy." (49:04)

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Demographic Shifts & Immigration in the U.S.

(29:45 - 31:13)

• U.S. Population Declines for First Time:
  • Getty cites an AEI study: "Our population in that 250 years has never declined until this year." (29:45)
  • Immigration has historically propped up growth, but "we ain't replacing the dead people with live people anymore."
  • Armstrong warns: "It all depends on population and economic growth or it goes ker bluey—blows up like a Venezuelan drug dealer's boat." (30:43)

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Epstein Files, Media Hype, and Political Agendas

(35:01 - 41:36)

• Congressional Push to Release Epstein Documents:
  • Ongoing Capitol Hill event with Epstein’s victims advocating for public release of files.
  • Getty: "Of all the victims that are up there...they were asked...Did any of you see or hear Donald Trump himself doing anything inappropriate...And they all said no, no, no, no, no. All of them." (37:13)
  • Armstrong & Getty both doubt a major "bombshell" remains, describing the story as: "a nothing burger with nothing buns and nothing sauce and nothing cheese." (35:16)
  • Concerns over unsealing grand jury testimonies, potentially wrongfully implicating innocent bystanders—"You can’t make a habit of releasing grand jury testimony..." – Getty (39:04)
  • Armstrong highlights political motives: "[Democrats] were stating it out loud...this is a great wedge to...shake Trump’s popularity among his core." (39:33)
  • Discussion of Ghislaine Maxwell’s recent statement that Trump did nothing wrong and her view that Epstein was murdered, not a suicide.

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Europe’s Political Upheaval & Populist Surge

(46:24 - 51:25)

• Political Realignment:
  • Far-right parties lead polls in the UK, France, and Germany—reflecting discontent with unchecked immigration and inflation.
  • Armstrong: "What are the options? Stop rampant immigration and hope that they assimilate over time...or your country becomes something very different forever." (50:41)
  • Tease for next hour: "How the Muslim Brotherhood is capturing Europe...nobody in American media is talking about it." (50:51)

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Notable Quotes

• "The word claimed is a prejudicial term." – Joe Getty (04:28)
• "I thought a decade ago the term terrorist had lost its usefulness." – Jack Armstrong (05:06)
• "Now blowing people up for transporting drugs is...I'm not sure that's in our legal code." – Jack Armstrong (08:28)
• "How long do we get to be the only country on planet Earth that just snuffs people...?" – Joe Getty (13:47)
• "[Graham Linehan]: I was arrested at an airport like a terrorist, locked in a cell like a criminal...all because I made jokes that upset some psychotic cross dressers." (24:10 paraphrase)
• "Our population...has never declined until this year." – Joe Getty (29:45)
• "Blows up like a Venezuelan drug dealer’s boat." – Jack Armstrong (30:43)
• "[The Epstein story is] a nothing burger with nothing buns and nothing sauce and nothing cheese." – Jack Armstrong (35:16)
• "They found a way or got a permit or had a trained gorilla open the windows or something." – Jack Armstrong (34:38)
• "Populist or far right parties are leading the polls in the UK, France, and Germany...this is huge." – Jack Armstrong (48:54)
• "The European authorities...have made an unholy bed and now they’re trying to lie in it." – Jack Armstrong (49:04)
• "What are the options? Stop rampant immigration...or your country becomes something very different forever." – Jack Armstrong (50:41)

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• U.S. strikes Venezuelan drug boat / narco-terror debate: 03:59 – 13:47
• AI denial and fake video discourse: 15:36 – 16:14, 31:49 – 34:44
• UK comedy writer arrested for tweets – censorship debate: 21:02 – 25:56
• Demographic decline & U.S. immigration: 29:45 – 31:13
• White House viral bag video – fact checking, satire: 31:49 – 34:44
• Epstein file release, victim testimony: 35:01 – 41:36
• European populist surge, immigration backlash: 46:24 – 51:25

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Memorable Moments

• Armstrong’s ongoing riff about "having a trained gorilla open the windows" at the White House (34:38, 34:53), poking fun at both bureaucracy and conspiracy theories.
• Getty and Armstrong’s deadpan dismissal of the Epstein bombshell rumors ("a nothing burger with nothing buns and nothing sauce and nothing cheese" – 35:16).
• Armstrong anticipating the media’s (and politicians’) opportunism around Epstein: "Their stated freaking goal. They don’t even bother to hide it anymore." (39:33)
• The candid, comical analysis of European turmoil: "Unholy bed" analogy and forecasting of ongoing political shifts (49:04–50:29).

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Tone & Style

• Critical, skeptical, and highly conversational.
• Frequently satirical and irreverent, often lampooning political double standards, media coverage, and bureaucracy.
• Uses humor to soften darker or more controversial analysis.

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Summary prepared for listeners seeking clear context, discussion flow, key insights, and engaging moments from "They Found a Trained Gorilla."

Transcript

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[News Reporter]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Here'S Armstrong and Getty.

[News Reporter]

Video posted by President Trump shows the moment the boat was struck. He claimed it killed 11 members of the Venezuelan gang trend Aragua and that the vessel was in international waters transporting drugs towards the U.S. we just, over.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

The last few minutes literally shot out a. A boat, a drug carrying boat. A lot of drugs in that boat. And you'll be seeing that and you'll be reading about that. It just happened moments ago.

[Joe Getty]

I like Charlie Daggett and this is an interesting report. I've heard the whole thing. We're going to play more of it. But the word claimed is a prejudicial term. He could have gone with. Donald Trump said claimed has has the stink of you're making something up that I don't believe is true. We all know that.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's the hint anyway. If you haven't seen the video yet, it's. You've seen these videos before of taking out terrorists, which is what we now call these drug people. We call them narco terrorists, I think because that helps you. It helps convince you that, oh, they had it coming because they're terrorists. Are they terrorists?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I thought a decade ago the term terrorist had lost its usefulness, but.

[Joe Getty]

And we get to execute drug dealers. I guess we will discuss that more after we hear the rest of this report.

[News Reporter]

Secretary of State Marco Rubio, traveling to Mexico City posted the boat was operated by a designated narco terrorist organization out of Venezuela. The administration recently doubled the bounty to $50 million for information leading to the arrest of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro linking him to a drug cartel.

[Joe Getty]

So that's interesting there. So you got the $50 million bounty on the head of a foreign leader. I don't know who that's to entice. I mean, who is that supposed to think? Well, I wasn't going to kill him before, but I am now. Who is that for?

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, any system like Maduro's loyalties are bought. They're bought whether through silver or lead, as they say, through enticement or fear. And you know, $50 million, you, hey, I've been as loyal secretary of what sits. But you know, if I got in touch with old Uncle Sam and told him where he's going to be vacationing and maybe they swept in, would we.

[Joe Getty]

Give $50 million to his number two if he takes out Maduro?

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe.

[Joe Getty]

I wonder.

[Jack Armstrong]

Probably.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, the number of assets that we have sent down to Venezuela is pretty impressive. Here we go.

[News Reporter]

The Pentagon in recent weeks has been surging battleships towards the coast of Venezuela. It includes two destroyers, a guided missile cruiser, and the Iwo Jima with more than 2,500 marines on board, capable of launching fighter jets and helicopters off its deck, specifically designed to move large numbers of forces on shore if needed. On Monday, President Maduro called it the greatest threat to the continent in a hundred years. And in response, he's deployed 15,000 troops to the border.

[Jack Armstrong]

The border of what?

[Joe Getty]

I imagine the land we're over here in the ocean, the land in the water. I would imagine that is a quite the military build up. I mean, 2500 marines, fighter jets and helicopters, destroyers.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

What have we got planned there?

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

A little more on that and then we can. Explosions clearly, yeah, a little more on that and then we can discuss whenever.

[News Reporter]

The Pentagon sends that much military hardware to the region. And this is the biggest military buildup that region has seen in three decades. You look at exactly what they sent, what they call the force package, and there are at least three destroyers capable of launching missiles. There's a cruiser again capable of launching missiles. Most importantly, there's the Iwo Jima amphibious group with 2,500 Marines on there and landing dock ships. Now, whether this is all about the optics, this is not the defense they just sent in the offense.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I mean we are, we are capable of. I don't know if we're prepared for, but we appear to be capable of a full Normandy beach landing there in Venezuela if we want to. To take over the country.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, let's not do that. On the other hand, there has been way, way Way too much passivity in US foreign policy in recent, you know, years, especially the Biden years, in which we considered it impolite or belligerent or whatever to insist on our national will. What the hell good is it to be a superpower if you're letting, for instance, I don't know, narco dealing scumbag cartels kill a hundred thousand of your citizens every day and say, well, we can't do anything about it because they're over there. No, let's go over there and whoop their ass. Now blowing people up for transporting drugs is, I'm not sure that's in our legal code. There are questions to be answered here, but I would prefer within reasonable parameters a little more aggressive exercise of our national prerogatives.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, well, I don't want China to set the standard for what's okay and what's not. But for instance, China ain't gonna allow some country near them in, within their sphere to mess with their nation and people in any way. I mean that would never happen. You're not gonna be, you're not gonna be a narco state smuggling in drugs that's killing hundreds of thousands of Chinese. Unless for some reason the Communist party is okay with that. If they decide they're not okay with, they ain't going allow it to happen. And this is our sphere of influence. But yeah, the whole assassinating drug dealers.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because if you're drug dealers, that's a strong term.

[Joe Getty]

Killing, blowing up, whatever you want to call it, making X's other eyes. We don't execute drug dealers in the United States. You might go to jail for a really long time, but you don't get the death penalty. Those people got the death penalty and the trial was very short.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I see your point. One, one thought to wrap up my last thought. You have been mocking for years. I think you are prescient in recognizing John Kerry saying of Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine, this is a 19th century act in the 21st century. That assumption that Obama esque assumption that it's all now reasonable people around negotiating tables. And since I am very reasonable and charismatic and persuasive, that's all I need on the world stage. No more of these ugly stupid military folks threatening people and no, it's all about the UN and negotiation. No, it's not. It never. I mean, it was a lovely thought, but no. The world is brutal and strength is the only thing that protects you against strength. So anyway.

[Joe Getty]

And rhetoric is not strength.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, exactly. Getting back to unless it's backed by, you know, speaking softly and carrying a big stick, for God's sake.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that's a big stick we got.

[Jack Armstrong]

Off the coast of Venezuela, I'd say. But to your question of killing people for transporting drugs, that sort of thing, I repeat that the term terrorist is practically useless in the modern world. It just at this point means people who sometimes kill people who I don't like because it can be, you know, an entirely political organization. It can be, you know, military, political, and in this case, it can be really a corporation because these cartels are just really profitable corporations with an extremely robust corporate security apparatus. You could describe them like that, I don't think.

[Joe Getty]

Robust enough in the face of what we just said. Down.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yes, yes. Turns out, not so robust at that moment. But anyway, if you were to put aside the word terrorist and just use bad guys or scumbags or drone worthy, these drone worthies. Yeah, let's use the term drone worthies. So these guys allegedly were drone worthy or missile worthy. They're engaged in extremely dangerous, deadly activities that kill Americans and are counter to our laws. Those dudes over there do it because they love Allah and want Sharia law everywhere. Okay? Those dudes over there do it because they're making a ton of money through drugs and kidnapping and all the things that cartels do, which is a hell of a lot now. They're like the Disney Corporation. They got their fingers in everything. It's like the mob used to be. Uh, anyway, if people end up just as dead because of the profit motive than they would because of the political motive, and if we would snuff the hell out of them from the sky, if they were killing our people for political reasons, why do we not snuff the hell out of them out of the sky because they're, you know, killing us through drugs. I'm not saying it's. It's. Clearly I've, I've won the day with my argument. But it's an interesting question.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I've wondered for a very long time. How long do we get to be the only country on planet Earth that just snuffs people? Whenever, wherever, when we decide it's important anywhere on the planet, we will just take you out. How long do we get to be the only country that basically does that?

[Jack Armstrong]

Until somebody's strong enough to a make a stop or do it themselves.

[Joe Getty]

I think it's going to be the second one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Here's my favorite update to the story from the blowing up the drug dealers in the boat. Murdero's people put out a statement today that that is AI and didn't actually happen which is what we knew would happen all along. I mean and I'm sure he can. They've got state controlled media there. I'm sure he can at least kind of convince a lot of people that it was AI.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah yeah it was a I the guys on the boat AI went in that direction and the other I went in that direction.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Huh? Yeah. True.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah it is fun. More on the way. Stay here.

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I hear you and I promise I'm.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

I hear you loud and clear. I know you just won that counting, but the truth is counting all the way to a million would literally take days. Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

I believe that to be a comedy bit.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's funny.

[Jack Armstrong]

I do not appreciate the levity. Speaking of comedy, let's. How do I start? Well, there's a comedy writer arrested in London the other day. When I was there, I think, and I'd said before I went, that I was going to try to violate some of the draconian, idiotic anti free speech laws that are good for in Britain have passed recently. But really, to explain what's going on, you know how I'm always saying the best way to discredit progressive policies is to enact them because they're always miserable failures. The best way to discredit the policy of rampant immigration by people who despise you and what made your country great is to do it in Europe. And they've done it. And because they're much smaller countries and there's a greater contrast culturally with all of that meaning, all of the meanings of that word coming from Muslim countries in Africa, like right across the sea into Italy and then flowing into Europe, then like Mexican people come to the United States. I mean, there are cultural differences, but that's a lot easier fit in a lot of ways. So Europe is really kind of the canary in the coal mine of the elite classes. Letting anybody in who wanted to come and prop up their welfare states and, and work their jobs and all because it's really getting miserable over there. And all of this British stuff is a symptom of that because the people now are pissed and they're saying openly that they're pissed off and that the, the, you know, the rape gangs of Birmingham or whatever, you're gonna, you're not gonna cover up for em anymore. You're not gonna make me the criminal for calling this stuff out. And what does the elite class do? Make one more try at making everybody shut up so they can't talk about how miserable they've been deserved anyway. So this Irish comedy writer, Graham Lynnham Lyon lion a hand. Oh, it's probably Linehan. He was arrested as he flew into Heathrow for three tweets. He was met by five armed police officers who arrested him over three tweets. And I'll tell you what they are in a second. And he put out a statement. In a country where pedophiles escape sentencing, where knife crime is out of control, where women are assaulted and harassed every time they gather to speak, the state has mobilized five armed officers to arrest a comedy writer for this tweet. And no, I promise you, I am not making this up. According to the Comedy Raider, the posts for which he was arrested, including one in which he argued that biological men who enter female only spaces are committing a violent and abusive act. I would agree. No, I'm a woman now. No, you're Matt. No, you're not. You're a dude.

[Joe Getty]

Even if you don't agree, that shouldn't cross the line into some sort of criminal. Well, there's.

[Jack Armstrong]

He said more make a scene, call the cops, and if all else fails, punch him in the balls. So that's some frank talk. Another one of his tweets that got him arrested included a photograph of an LGBTQ+ over the Power3 rally in London, which Linehan captioned a photo you can smell, which is just like. That's like silliest sort of. That's like a Greg Gutfeld joke, right? And then the third apparently offending post said, I hate them misogynists and homophobes. Fm. And I'm not sure what that was referring to, if there was a visual involved. But anyway, they released him solely on the agreement that he would no longer post to X. I was arrested at an airport like a terrorist, locked in a cell like a criminal, taken to a hospital because the stress nearly killed me and banned from speaking online, all because I made jokes that upset some psychotic cross dressers. He remarked to me, this proves one thing beyond a doubt. The UK has become a country that is hostile to freedom of speech, hostile to women, and far accommodating to the demands of violent, entitled, abusive men who have turned the police into their personal goon squad.

[Joe Getty]

As Charles C.W. cook wrote in the National Review, there's not more to this story. If you think there's more to this story that you're missing, there's not. A man was arrested after he landed the airport because he'd expressed views on Twitter that the British government doesn't like.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's the whole story, right?

[Joe Getty]

And as Charlie Cook points out, the fact that they arrested him at Heathrow shows, that was like a real planned out. They were, you know, thought through, lots of people involved. This wasn't some sort of rash thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah, I mean it's not like anybody said, oh my God, it's Graham Linehan, notorious Irish slanderer of people. Police, police. No, it was planned this. Oh they are trying to hold down the lid of the pot as it boils. We all know what happens next.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, this will be interesting to follow.

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[Joe Getty]

Like generally the people at AEI American Enterprise Institute. They just did a study. So the United States has been around for coming this next July 4th 250 years. Our population in that 250 years has never declined until this year. It looks like because of we're ending people flown across the border. We stopped having babies. I mean the only reason our population has been growing is because we let people into this country. We ain't replacing the dead people with live people anymore within our borders. And our population is going to decline for the first time ever. And that's something.

[Jack Armstrong]

And if you think that's a coincidence in a system that depends on multiple young workers supporting each retiree, you're a fool.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, you've been saying that for years. That. That part of the reason that we allow illegal immigration is we don't have enough people to support our Ponzi scheme.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. It all depends on population and economic growth. Or it goes ker bluey blows up like a Venezuelan drug dealer's boat.

[Joe Getty]

So the China was shrinking, and they're now the second biggest country in the world behind India. The third biggest country is us, and we'll be shrinking. That's interesting. The number two and three biggest countries in the world shrinking in population because they don't have babies anymore.

[Jack Armstrong]

If we did immigration. Right. We wouldn't have to. Or not much.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. The not having babies thing is a problem, though. Anyway.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah, please.

[Joe Getty]

Different topics. So Trump was doing his daily press conference. He basically has a press conference with a hostile press, allowed to ask any question about anything every single day, and he gets no credit for it. But anyway, one of the things came up was this. I hadn't even heard about this. There was a video making the rounds of something being thrown out one of the windows at the White House. And Peter Doocy brought up the video to Trump. This is how that went. There is a video that is circulating.

[Jack Armstrong]

Online now of the White House, where a window is open to the residents upstairs and somebody is throwing a big.

[Joe Getty]

Bag out the window. Have you seen this?

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

No, that's probably AI generator. So actually, you can't open the windows. You know why? They're all heavily armored and bulletproof.

[Joe Getty]

That's a fake. A fake video.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

Well, it's got to be, because I know every window up there. The last place I'd be doing it. Is that because there's cameras all over the place, Right? Including yours. No, but every window. I've never seen a window that's. In fact, my wife was complaining about it the other day. She said, love to have a little fresh air come in, but you can't. They're bulletproof. And number one, they're sealed. And number two, each window weighs about 600 pounds. You have to be pretty strong to open them up.

[Joe Getty]

I just thought that was interesting news.

[Jack Armstrong]

Fake news.

[Joe Getty]

Is it? Well, let's hear the follow up, because Doocy goes up and shows him the video. Trump says, let me See it? Doocy comes up and holds the phone up to Trump. And Trump watches the video on Fox's Peter Doocy's phone, which is kind of funny, a funny interaction with the President of the United States. Let me see that video. He walks up and shows it to him. And then. And then this.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

Yeah, those windows are sealed. Those windows are all. They're all sealed. You can't open them.

[Joe Getty]

You're saying regarding the federal.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

It's the kind of thing they do. And one of the problems we have with AI, it's both good and bad. If something happens, really bad, just blame AI. But also they create things. You know, it works both ways. If something happens, it's really bad. Maybe I'll have to just blame AI. But there's truth to it, because I see so many phony things. I saw something as I was growing up, from the time I was a baby till now. I said, who did that? It was AI generated. So it's a little bit scary, to be honest with you.

[Joe Getty]

But.

[Guest or Expert Commentator]

But those windows are all very heavily sealed.

[Jack Armstrong]

That may be true, but still fake news overall. We all know that it was his administration throwing a bag full of the Epstein files out of the window at the orders of the Pope and the Jews.

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Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Who's with me?

[Joe Getty]

The Pope and the Jews working together.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's right. Everybody knows that anyway. And let's see. Via the New York Times. In an effort to tamp down the speculation, White House press office confirmed on Monday the video was real, but said it was nothing nefarious. Quote, it was merely a contractor who's doing regular maintenance while the President was gone. Then, according to Chad GPT, the windows of the White House are designed to be sealed and cannot be opened. This is due to security measures, blah, blah, blah. Former first lady Michelle Obama even mentioned that her daughter Sasha faced consequences for attempting to open a window, highlighting the strictness of this rule.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, so Trump was right. He just didn't know they were doing some construction while he wasn't in the building.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. And they found a way or got a permit or had a trained gorilla open the windows or something. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

That's interesting that they're. They're all sealed in £600. I suppose that's got to be true.

[Jack Armstrong]

But somehow they got it open to hurl out the Epstein files. That's my theory.

[Joe Getty]

On the order of the Pope and the Jews.

[Jack Armstrong]

And the Jews working together against Epstein.

[Joe Getty]

Since you brought up Epstein, let me pay off my little Epstein. Oh, no.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, no. I'm to blame.

[Joe Getty]

You are to blame. Joe and I are in agreement that the Epstein thing is a big. It's a. It's a nothing burger with nothing buns and nothing sauce and nothing cheese.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's all heat and no light. It creates interest and contributions and fervor and, you know, donations to certain politicians and web clicks. But there is no light to be shined here.

[Joe Getty]

Well, there is a Republican congressperson and a Democratic congressman person right now, as we speak, having a big get together on the steps of the Capitol with a whole bunch of the victims of Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein. And it's been going on now for like two hours. And they're taking questions and all the victims got to go up to a microphone and talk about what it was like to be, you know, sex trafficked by Epstein, which is obviously horrible. And he was going to go to prison for it. And then he either killed himself or didn't you miss this? Miss this while you're on vacation? Oh, Maxwell said in her interview she doesn't think Epstein killed himself.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, really?

[Joe Getty]

She said that? Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, wow.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, you got the victims up there. So Epstein and Maxwell were gonna. She's in jail, he was gonna go to jail. And then there's just nobody else. So. But, so why are these Congress people having these victims come forward? And Byron York writes in the Washington examiner, these Epstein victims are pressing for public release of the documents in their cases. Victim privacy was a key concern about the release. But if they're approving, then why not? Obviously, many of the release advocates hope that they can find something to use against Trump. Well, somebody just asked a question. Of all the victims that are up there, and I don't know how many there are, there looks like there's at least 10 women up there that have been telling their story today. Epstein victims, and they were asked specifically by NBC News, did anybody see or did any of you see or hear Donald of Donald Trump himself doing anything inappropriate as it related to Jeffrey Epstein? And they all said no, no, no, no, no, no. All of them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

And so again, I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Did anybody ask them, are there other victimizers who should be charged in this?

[Joe Getty]

That's a good question. I'll bet somebody did ask that or is going to ask that. One of the Epstein victims, who was 14, she was working multiple jobs and she was offered a job on Epstein island to give massages for 300 bucks. 14, I mean, it's a crime if it's 17, but 14 year old is really, really a kid. I mean, you're absolutely.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's write on the Mendoza line of the law, whether you're a child or merely underage.

[Joe Getty]

I'm not talking about the law. I'm talking about as a guy, a Grown up, a 14 year old is a freaking kid. That's disgusting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, no, no, that was my point. I was agreeing with you. It's on the cusp of just being flat, indisputably a child.

[Joe Getty]

But she said, I mean you get.

[Jack Armstrong]

Some really attractive 17 year old woman, she can fool the hell out of you. But anyway, back to you.

[Joe Getty]

The government is still in possession of the documents. She said adding the documents can help put the pieces of my own life back together. You know, you can't judge victims of anything because they've got all kinds of emotional things I've never dealt with and all that. But how's releasing the documents gonna help you in any way?

[Jack Armstrong]

I just, well if it like brought justice, I get that but I don't think it's going to. And, and the, the problem remains the problem. It was last week and the week before that. You've got all sorts of information about people who are innocent, people who are cleared, people who had nothing to do with the nefarious stuff, whatever. Grand jury testimony is sealed for a good reason because it's one sided.

[Joe Getty]

It's just right. That has changed. I don't care, I don't care about this story at all. But I don't care if the Epstein files come out. But yeah, you can't make a habit of releasing grand jury testimony where all kinds of names are going to be attached. You know that if this gets released and it probably will at some point, there are all kinds of names that are going to be on there that immediately then they're going to have to be answering questions.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, well and the other aspect of this that just who didn't do.

[Joe Getty]

Anything wrong is my point.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just before we were going on vacation or during, I was reading about how when Congress comes back, the Epstein thing is going to be big again. Of course I said oh God no. Uh, and, and one of the reasons, and they were stating it out loud, Democrats were saying this is a great wedge to like divide the MAGA movement and maybe, you know, shake Trump's popularity among his core. So yeah, we're gonna be pushing this really hard when we get back. I mean that's their stated freaking goal. They don't even bother to hide it anymore. It's not a quest for justice. They don't. Ro Khanna doesn't Give a crap. I guarantee you he's a. He's a partisan politician.

[Joe Getty]

The only.

[Jack Armstrong]

Enough of that.

[Joe Getty]

Well, we talked about this briefly while you're gone. The only interesting aspect of this to me. Oh, it's because we played the Maxwell, the. She did eight or nine hours of interview with the number two guy at the Justice Department. That's unprecedented. There's no explanation for that. So that's kind of interesting. The only thing in that. That was of any interest is her saying, I never saw Donald Trump do anything. And two, I don't think Epstein killed himself. I think somebody killed. That's kind of interesting that she believes that. But she does that interview, says Trump had nothing to do with anything, and then three days later gets moved to a Club Fed where they never put this kind of sex criminal. What's up with that? Something's up with that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think what's up with that is what is clearly up with that. I mean, it's. It's. It's abc. One, two, three. It's obvious.

[Joe Getty]

Well, then you think she's coming talking to you bastards.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why would I move you to a really cush prison? Okay, let's talk.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and then she clears Trump. I mean, so what good does that do anybody? Oh, no, I don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

Honestly. Well, you can absolutely make that claim, and it's not unreasonable. I don't think that's the case at all. I just think they're desperate to talk to her and get some sort of statement and be seen trying and therefore put her in the Kush prison. No, no, Trump. Trump wasn't engaged in.

[Joe Getty]

In no even heinous stuff while you were on vacation. Even Chris Christie on the Sunday shows two weeks ago said, look, Trump's all kinds of a bad person. I've been around him. I hate him. Everybody knows I hate him. But he didn't do anything around. This Epstein stuff, I don't believe. Yeah, even Chris Christie said that. So, yeah, I don't know. What kind of God can I pray to if I go to Stonehenge and stand in front of the rocks? Is there some sort of God I can pray to to make this Epstein story disappear from my life?

[Jack Armstrong]

Couldn't hurt. Give it a try. Yeah, I wish I'd thought of it while I was there. So, speaking of Britain and Europe and our conversation earlier about immigration and arresting comedians who write tweets that the government doesn't like, left out one major aspect of the question, and that is how are the people reacting to the government's effort to make them shut up. And the answer is loud and clear. And not just in Britain, in a bunch of countries.

[Joe Getty]

Cool. Got a tiny little NFL preview as it kicks off tomorrow. The NFL season Number one TV show in America. Lots on the way. Stay here.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Obama called out Trump's crackdown on crime, saying he's worried it will target the former president's hometown. Trump reassured Obama by saying, don't worry, we're not going to invade Nairobi. Wow, he's Kenyan. Oh, I get it. So if you're just tuning in, earlier in the hour, we were talking about a particularly abhorrent arrest in Britain of an Irish comedy writer who made a couple of tweets that, that the British government didn't like. They have various laws against inciting discomfort and racial annoyance. And, and that it's all response to the fact that a bunch of Europe allowed unfettered, unfettered immigration, mostly from North Africa. Well, in all of Africa and other Muslim lands for a long time. And now they are realizing to at least some extent that a lot of these people despise all of our civilization, our mores, our customs, our laws, our traditions, our family structures, everything. And it's a huge problem. And the authorities are trying to squash that by jamming the lid back on the steaming boiling pot and telling people you're not allowed to talk about it. Won't even get to the rape gangs. That story, if you're familiar with it, is just horrifying the way the government covered that up. Anyway, what we didn't get to because we ran out of time is all right, well, what's the reaction to that among the people? And this is, this is such a huge headline for the first time populist or far right parties are leading the polls in the UK France and Germany, the three biggest economies in the eu. Latest sign of growing voter discontent in much of the continent following years of high immigration and inflation, which, you know, doesn't help. But far right and anti immigration parties have already entered government in countries like Italy, Finland and the Netherlands. And if you know anything about European cultures and politics, those are three very different countries. Italy, Finland and the Netherlands. But this year marks the first time they've been ahead in Europe's biggest economies. At the same time, that could provoke a period of political turbulence in all three countries, even if national elections are likely still a few years away. Well, they quote various thinkers and authorities saying, oh yeah, this is huge. This is very, very big.

[Joe Getty]

And you certainly could easily say it was the number one reason Trump, with all of his downsides got reelected was immigration in this country.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. If it wasn't, it might as well be. And you know, I get that the Euros are scared and they don't know what to do. I mean, we talked about, it was a couple of weeks ago how the mayors of like quite a few of the biggest cities in, in England are Muslims because all the, and you know what? I, I am so, I feel so liberated. All these things you had to be really careful about saying there for a while as the politically correct slash woke crowd would, would come for your hide. But now they, they can't anymore. They've lost that power in like all areas except education and media. But all of the Muslims show up and vote for the Muslim candidate. They have a feeling of solidarity with their people or the candidate of their people. So you never see a white guy elected in St. Louis. You know, it's because the black folks come out and vote for the black folks in huge numbers. It just is, it's a fact. I'm not making any sort of value judgment. It's easily discernible from the, the numbers anyway. So the European authorities, they don't know what to do. They have made an unholy bed and now they're trying to lie in it. And, and the, and the resolution of this is not going to be pretty and it is not going to be easy.

[Joe Getty]

Well, what are the options? The are stop rampant immigration and hope that the, they assimilate over time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or mellow out. Yes, or mellow out.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know if that's something you can count on or your country becomes something very different forever. Those are really the only two options, aren't they?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, I think you've nailed it. I keep threatening this. I'm going to pay it off next hour and nobody's going to stop me. How the Muslim Brotherhood Is Capturing Europe it is a great piece of journalism about one of the most important stories that's happened in the last, you know, couple of decades that nobody in the American media is talking about. And that is the leaked report from the French government about the influence of the Muslim Muslim Brotherhood in changing France. Next hour. If you don't get next hour, subscribe to the podcast for goodness sakes. Armstrong and Getty on Demand.

[Joe Getty]

We've also got a whole bunch of other stories, including a woman who tried to sell her shoes online and it went horribly wrong. So tune in, won't you, to the Armstrong and Getty Show.

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Ugh.

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Come on.

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[Jack Armstrong]

This is an I Heart podcast.