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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and Getty.
Jack Armstrong
And now here's Armstrong and Getty.
Joe Getty
The orbital computer era is closer than you think. According to experts, that is the cloud will be in the clouds soon. Oh, what's that mean for AI and everything Else we'll get to that later this hour.
Jack Armstrong
Literally. Orbital. I see. How interesting. Yeah. Plus major step forward in our military embracing AI and what that might mean. And I also want to follow up on our, I think delightful conversation with Katie about her coming motherhood in just a moment or two. But first, it's time to take a fond look back at the week that was its cow clips of the week. Eastern District of North Carolina returned an indictment against James Comey on two counts.
Guest or Caller
The mob uses that term to say when they want to kill somebody, they say 86 the son of a gun.
Jack Armstrong
The President has got himself and America stuck in a quagmire of another war
News Reporter
in the Middle East. You call it a quagmire?
Jack Armstrong
Quagmire. Handing propaganda to our enemies. Shame on you. Who are you cheering for here?
News Reporter
Who you pulling for?
Joe Getty
The Americans clearly have no strategy. An entire nation is being humiliated by the Iranian state leadership. Thanks for your opinion, Chancellor. If I wanted your opinion, I'll set your Reichstag on fire.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. How many more you got? I'm really enjoying this.
Joe Getty
Elon Musk is suing Sam Altman, the head of OpenAI.
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He warned the jury that he believes AI could kill us all and that he wanted to avoid a Terminator style outcome for everybody.
Political Commentator
The richest, most powerful people in the world are now building a runaway train with no brakes.
Joe Getty
On the agenda today, Tea with the Trumps.
Guest or Caller
My mother had a crush on Charles. Can you believe it?
Jack Armstrong
Please rest assured, ladies and gentlemen, I am not here as part of some cunning rear guard action.
Joe Getty
Our First Lady Melania is here.
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Mrs. You have a glow like an expectant widow. Chaos at the correspondents dinner. Shots fired. President Trump rushed from the stage.
Jack Armstrong
What was your thought at that moment? What did the first lady say?
Guest or Caller
Well, my thought was, you know, I've been through this before, a couple of times. I wasn't worried. I understand life. We live in a crazy world. You should be ashamed of yourself reading that. Because I'm not any of those things, Mr. President. And I was never excused. Excuse me.
Joe Getty
We got a lot of people who serve in government who really do think
Jack Armstrong
the highest and greatest thing you can
Joe Getty
ever do is have the title senator or congressman. And God you believe has a plan. Absolutely. There are no maverick molecules in the universe.
Bethany Frankel
It's clips of the week.
Joe Getty
Hardcore Calvinist, which I did a little research on after I saw that interview and he explained that. Interesting.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. I'm a Calvin and Hobbesist myself.
Joe Getty
That whole Noro Donald Trump thing, which we covered that I was wrong about. Completely wrong about. Yeah, that was. But I wish he would have. And you know, he could have been flustered. I would have been flustered if he put that in my face. Could have said, so you're going to platform this guy. You're gonna read his manifesto on the number one news show in the world and give him the platform because he tried to kill me. So trying to kill me gets him the air time that he needed to get his message out. That's what you're doing here.
Jack Armstrong
There are a thousand guys like him out there. Nora, why are you reading this guy's? Oh, because he tried to murder the President and my cabinet. So that elevated him. That justified you reading that. Explain to me how that works.
Joe Getty
Because her saying, well, these are his words and you need to repeat them on 60 minutes because.
Jack Armstrong
And then her freaking dishonest. Oh, do you think he was referring to you? Oh, my God. She's but evil biatch.
Joe Getty
So I was wrong about that. But it reminded me of the other thing I was wrong about this week. Not as important. I definitely think the King, King coming to England and having that appearance and it going the way it went is important to England more than to us. Because Trump's approval rating and the US Approval rating, I mean, if you've seen any of these polls, they have a very negative view of the United States. They have a very positive view of King Charles and him coming over here and treating Trump the way he treated him, like, you know, that he, you know, they're friends and, and, and, you know, with full respect and everything like that, and standing in front of Congress and treating it with full respect. That had to help our image in Britain, which we might need. You know, you never know when we're going to need that.
Jack Armstrong
And as I put it at the time, we have some pretty serious differences and our relationship has suffered for reasons we've, we've talked about plenty. But it helps sometimes to remind yourselves, look, we're really old friends. We've done wonderful things together. We've prevented terrible evils together. Let's just not forget that while we're sniping at each other. I think that has real value historically. So I'm glad he came over to follow up on our.
Joe Getty
Well, you've got the Prime Minister calling Trump a war criminal.
Jack Armstrong
He's, he's an a hole. He is a bad human being.
Joe Getty
So the king comes over and basically hugs President Trump.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
You know, in words and, you know, doesn't treat him like a war criminal.
Jack Armstrong
Right? Right. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, don't get me started. But yeah, don't get me started. So we were talking to Katie about her upcoming motherhood and that sort of thing. And perfect timing. The fabulous Nellie Bowles writing in the Free Press about a New York Times story. And I don't know why it bothers me so much, but some of the modern narratives that are convincing people to live their lives in a certain way or not live their lives a certain way that are just bullass. They're just, they don't stand up to any scrutiny. Their pretensions, they're dumb, but people believe them. It makes me nuts. To wit. And by the way, I should say some people are not cut out to have children or fate doesn't permit it. And. And I wish you a happy life. You need to make your own decisions and live with them. And. And I don't judge people. I really don't. I'm small libertarian. You live your life, I'll live mine. Having said that, I despise when narratives like this take place. New York Times. I'll just read from Nelly and quote from the article. The New York Times has a perfect story on America's falling birth rate. The culprit, we're told, is the cost of living. Houses are too small. Life is too expensive. No one can have kids unless the government subsidizes more things and things seem bad. Here's your headline. These couples wanted to have children. Rising costs are stopping them. High mortgage payments, higher child care costs and economic uncertainty are making some people rethink their plans on starting a family. So Nellie writes. Let's turn to the anecdotes to hear the cursed details quoting from the article now. Riley Stewart and Brock Goodwin have always imagined having several children. But that vision shifted once they settled into their new home. The two thousand square foot house came with a twenty thousand dollar down payment and a three thousand two hundred dollar monthly mortgage. They realized that even with one child, they would most likely need more space. Okay, let's get a little more information. Why? Ms. Stewart said she would need to take on extra shifts and Mr. Goodwin would have to give up hobbies he enjoys like golfing. One of them might even need to stay home full time to care for a child. After weighing all the costs, they decided not to have children at all. You might have to give up golfing
Joe Getty
when you have a baby.
News Reporter
Yeah,
Jack Armstrong
back to Nelly. Okay. Okay. So the lead anecdote in this long feature, like the central example here, is a couple living in 2,000 square feet of space and deciding that it is simply too small for a child to fit in and that it would require giving up golf, the most give up male hobby in history. It's fine if you decide you don't want kids or that you'd rather have a career than stay home, but I love the New York Times being so determined to jam this cost of living narrative into our heads that they are now arguing that anything less than a 4000 square foot house and at 10am t time every weekend is a basic human rights violation. This is really funny to think about when you do have kids since they in fact want zero square feet between you and them. Like two children and I occupy about 100 square inches of floor space when we're all together. Their idea of personal space is when they clutch onto my calf instead of my neck. What toddler is saying. I think I need a little more room to breathe. Another example that cited in the article to show those who can't have kids due to the cost of living. A Manhattan lawyer and an occupational therapist who pay $5,000 a month in re travel internationally and spend $600 a month for, wait for it, doggy daycare. Unless the US Gives all US taxpayer funded subsidized daycare for our cavalier King Charles's, people just cannot have children.
Michael
This is insane.
Jack Armstrong
I know people are reading this, they're internalizing it, they're believing it and they're, they're repeating it to their friends.
Joe Getty
Well, I've been on, Lord, I've been on this note for a long time. People are not having kids. I think mostly for some sort of biological reason that we don't understand. They need to just.
Jack Armstrong
No sperms. It's the hormones in the water. Clearly.
Joe Getty
I mean the desire is not as strong to have kids as it used to be throughout human history. For some reason, we don't know why and it's a really big deal and
Jack Armstrong
it's all over the world.
Joe Getty
But people for some reason seem to need to justify it with crap like this as opposed to just.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know.
Joe Getty
I don't really feel the desire that strong because if you're over 50, maybe even younger, you almost certainly grew up in a house smaller than 2, 000 square feet with you and your brothers and sisters.
Jack Armstrong
Almost certainly.
Joe Getty
I did.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Absolutely.
Michael
Gonna have to give up golf.
News Reporter
Yeah.
Joe Getty
And then the idea that you mean I won't be able to keep all my current hobbies if I have a baby. Well, nobody told me that, you know,
Jack Armstrong
I'd like to keep yelling at these people, but I think you may be right. They're just looking for a rationalization. I mean, if their mom is, like, begging them constantly, when are you gonna have a baby? Well, okay, I. Can. I get that. But why the New York Times would put together this big feature, and it's so hilariously unselfaware the anecdotes they use to illustrate their point. How can you, as a person who traffics in the English language, write that or editor, read that and say, whoa,
Joe Getty
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Jack Armstrong
These two people are incredibly self indulgent, and there's nothing keeping them from having a kid except that they clearly don't want a kid. Why are you wasting our time making me read this? But they don't. They print it.
Joe Getty
You didn't want to be judgmental. I'll say a judgmental thing then.
Jack Armstrong
Oh. Oh, no. Oh, no.
Joe Getty
And if this doesn't apply to you, it doesn't apply to you. But why is nobody willing to say out loud, because this is the way it was for me before I had kids. I want to prioritize my own happiness, and I think the best way to do that is not have any responsibilities. So I'm going to, out of self selfish and self centeredness, prioritize my own needs every single day. Nobody ever says that.
Jack Armstrong
That's true for a lot of cases. And you get to do that here? Sure.
Joe Getty
Of course you get to do that.
Jack Armstrong
There's no.
Joe Getty
There's no reason you can't do that. But nobody wants to say that out loud. It would get in the way of me traveling, eating out, doing all the things I want to do, my hobbies, whatever. I'd have to spend more money on the kid than I spend on just my own stuff. Nobody ever wants to say that out loud. Why own it?
Jack Armstrong
I would have to give up pleasures. Yeah. And again, you get to.
Joe Getty
Yes, you get to. I did it for a very long time, I would say. My personal experience is there's much more meaning and happiness now than in chasing those things. That's the experiment I ran, and that was the results I got. May not be true for you, your mileage may vary, but nobody ever says out loud, I would prefer my own personal pleasure to having to have the responsibility.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know why nobody says that. After we had Declan, our second kid, I couldn't remember which end of the golf clubs to grab for quite some time. Oh, well, what are you gonna do? The modern world's crazy.
Joe Getty
That. That part is particularly hilarious. He realized he'd have to give up golf. What?
Jack Armstrong
For a while.
Michael
And, like.
Jack Armstrong
For a while. Get out of my way, Junior.
Michael
And they felt good about adding that into the article.
Joe Getty
Yeah, that's. Yeah. And nobody could conceive of the fact that, you know, you might actually enjoy rolling around on the floor with your kid more than playing golf. I know it sounds CR Crazy when
Jack Armstrong
your new son learns to say dada. That might be better than making a par. Jimmy. Jesus Christ. The Bible. Yeah. And I shouldn't. I apologize. All right. I'm done.
Joe Getty
More on the way. Stay here.
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Donald Trump Jr. And his fiance are waiting for the Iran war to end before getting married because they're worried about the optics of a wedding during wartime. Sounds like somebody's trying get out of it. Yeah, babe, we'll get married as soon as there's world peace,
Jack Armstrong
huh? Hmm. This is actually good news. It's controversial, but it's. It's really, really good. The Supreme Court decision the other day that Calais vs. Louisiana, or Vice versa, about the racial gerrymandering where they make these absolutely tortured bizarro districts to make sure, for instance, the black people can vote for a black guy or a girl, and how that's clearly unconstitutional on a number of different levels and it violates all sorts of laws. And the Supreme Court finally got it right. And John Tillman, who's a writer about politics, he made the point that it's much bigger than people realize. He's a Chicagoan. He's watched it play out in Chicago. And the argument for race based districts was always that they protect minority representation. But as he observes, what they've actually done is inflame segregation not just for voters, but for elected officials. Officials, because you don't have to find common ground and build coalitions within the district. You've just got to be the chosen one of your race. And he illustrates a couple of different percentages of this, that and the other. But he says you'd literally not be able to win a seat on the city council by pandering to one single group. You'd actually have to go Talk to people about how they actually live and things they care about. School safety, jobs, taxes. Working class voters of every background want roughly the same things. Identity based districts function to paper over that. But a blended district would necessitate it. The superficial grievance model of left wing politics relies on the existence of racially sorted districts. Today's ruling, he said a couple of days ago, makes that sorting harder. That's what matters here. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I know I'm always talking about why we abandoned the idea of a colorblind society or equal rights content of your character. Equal protection under the law society is because neo Marxists need to radicalize people against each other. Don't let them do it.
Joe Getty
You know my favorite argument around the congresses, and we won't get it into today because it's really in the weeds is how we should probably have like 1500 Congress people.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah.
Joe Getty
Way, way more than we do. Represent much smaller groups. They'd be more responsive to us. Etc. That's what should really happen.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. There are congress people who represent what, hundreds of thousands of people?
Joe Getty
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. No way you could ever get a hold of your congressperson, which is not the way it was designed.
Jack Armstrong
Right. Yeah. I mean, calling your congressperson's like calling Coca Cola and saying, you know, it's too fizzy. They don't care what you think.
Joe Getty
How are we going to handle the future of AI? I know the guy to ask an elderly socialist. Bernie Sanders.
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If AI becomes smarter than human beings, as many scientists believe will happen, the human race could lose control over this technology with catastrophic consequences. In other words, the richest, most powerful people in the world are now building a runaway train with no brakes.
Joe Getty
Bernard Sanders, of course. Bernie Sanders the socialist has to couch it in rich, powerful people doing something to the rest of us. Always. Always.
Jack Armstrong
But I mean, communism and socialism are so the politics of envy. And as you aptly pointed out, it's not about bringing the bottom up, it's bringing the top down.
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah, but his first sentence is a logical fallacy in my mind. That's the problem with the whole thing. If we invent something smarter than us, it could get out of control. Are we out of control compared to what squirrels want in the world because we're smarter than them? Something smarter than us is going to do whatever the hell it wants and there's nothing we can do to stop it. It sort of by definition, if it's smarter than us.
Jack Armstrong
And yet, as we've discussed many times, if the Chinese in particular get to it before we do, God help humanity. Which brings us to the Bernie Sanders hearing a confession. I was at a social gathering last night in which intoxicating beverages were consumed.
Joe Getty
Oh my God.
Jack Armstrong
And then I sat down to watch the news. And as this story unfolded, I realized, wait a minute, I spaced off. I must have missed something. This can't be what it seems to be. But no, though my mind may have been hazed by my alcohol consumption, I'd heard it exactly right. Rich Edson will describe. We'll start with 91. Michael.
News Reporter
A panel on Capitol Hill Senator Bernie Sanders and several scientists sounded the alarm about the dangers of ungoverned artificial intelligence. Sanders critics warned of the Vermont senators guest list, which included two professors from China.
Jack Armstrong
Safety, you know, is an area that US and Chinese and global scientists can work together, can collaborate. So the Chinese, at Bernie's invitation, came and said we should probably stop pursuing artificial intelligence research in the United States until we can be sure we're safe. And by the way, you have so many soldiers. You don't need that many soldiers with that many guns. Why don't you shut down your armed services as well? And oh good Lord, Bernie, you're supposed to pretend you're not a communist, then you're a socialist and it's different. Good God. Rich Edson rolls on.
News Reporter
Sanders argues the United States needs to coordinate with allies and adversaries to address concerns about AI potentially replacing millions of jobs and scenarios where the technology could slip from human control. Some Republicans say the US should just keep China out.
Joe Getty
If it quacks like a duck, walks like duck, it's a duck. Senator Sanders is a communist. How he ever got elected is beyond me. And he is a threat to national security.
News Reporter
Treasury Secretary Scott Besant writes, quote, the real threat to AI safety is letting any nation other than the United States set the global standard.
Jack Armstrong
If only we'd collaborated with the Nazis on the development of the atom bomb, that would have kept humanity so much safer.
Joe Getty
So I quoted a couple of weeks ago, I was listening to a podcast with one of your top AI experts on there there and I quoted him and he was talking about this sort of thing and I, I don't know if he was communist friendly socialist like Bernie or if he just doesn't understand what China is communist, but his, his whole Thing was, look, we. We need to work with China, and I feel safer with AI in the hands of China than the United States. They're a nation run by scientists and mathematicians. Our nation is run by lawyers.
Jack Armstrong
I'm sorry, how old did you say this child was? 8 or 9? I can forgive them. That is hill. It's almost hilarious.
Joe Getty
It was scientists and engineers. China is a country run by scientists and engineers. Our country's run by lawyers. So AI would be better off in their hands than ours. But we at least need to work together. There's no such thing as independent anything in Communist China. It all works for and serves the Communist Party. How does everybody not know that?
Jack Armstrong
I'm so stunned by that attitude. I. I get. If you're a science geek, that's your world. You have no idea what's going on in politics or government or whatever. But that's just. It's astonishing.
Joe Getty
Well, Bernie honeymooned in the Soviet Union.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
That's all you need to remember.
Jack Armstrong
You know, Lindsey Graham, bless my soul, is occasionally guilty of. Of hyperbole.
Joe Getty
I think.
Jack Armstrong
Like all of us.
Joe Getty
Standing there with his glow wand all alone at Disneyland. Is that what it was? Katie, what did he have in his hand?
Jack Armstrong
Bubble. Bubble Companion.
Michael
Companion. I think it was a bubble wand.
Joe Getty
It was a bubble wand. Yes. He had a bubble wand standing there alone at Disneyland, which is a funny.
Political Commentator
Oh, my God.
Jack Armstrong
Anyway. Yeah, but I don't think he was out of line at all. Bernie Sanders is a communist. I have no idea how he got elected. Well, because he sells the. Oh, my God.
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Jack Armstrong
You can't possibly stamp it out. Fraud of socialism, anyway.
Joe Getty
That is astounding.
Jack Armstrong
The rest of it is kind of. You can guess the rest. Yeah.
Joe Getty
You know what?
Jack Armstrong
I tell you what, play 94 for us.
News Reporter
Michael Sanders compared his panel discussion to summits the U.S. held with the Soviet Union during the Cold War.
Jack Armstrong
War.
News Reporter
His critics say AI is much different from agreements limiting nuclear warheads and that China will take any AI advantage it can. President Trump is scheduled to travel to Beijing next month to meet with Chinese President Xi Jinping.
Joe Getty
Yeah, that. Ian. Ian Bremmer, friend of the show Ian Bremmer said the top issue, probably between Trump and Xi right off the bat, will be the straight of Hormuzzi. But second on that list is going to be AI this will be the first major meeting between heads of state in which AI is one of the top topics, which is pretty interesting.
Jack Armstrong
But the idea that we could get together with them and reach an accord, I mean, that's just sheep is going to reach an accord with the Wolf. I mean, how do you say these things out loud? Of course he's a communist, so.
Joe Getty
Well, they're scientists and engineers. We're a bunch of lawyers. Now I get the dysfunction of a country run by lawyers and all the things that we're currently doing, I've noticed. But yeah, come on in.
Jack Armstrong
Another AI and national security related happening. A bunch of top AI companies have agreed to deals with the Pentagon for classified work. You remember that big flap with Anthropic and yeah, I saw this headline and the safety stuff, they're still trying to work that up out and I'm a fan of Anthropic so I'm kind of rooting for, for everybody to calm down and do what's right for the country. But department said today it's now capable the Defense Department of using in classified settings the technology and models from OpenAI, that's ChatGPT, People, AlphaBets, Google, Elon Musk, SpaceX, Microsoft, Amazon, Nvidia and a startup reflection AI that I guess has a lot of promise. There were some initial deals that have evolved somewhat, but it looks like it's getting more and more comfortable. You know, there's also, there's a piece, I think it was in the Journal, I can't remember about how Immigration and Naturalization INS and ICE are using facial recognition and data combing and stuff. They can figure out who you are and where you live, license plate numbers, blah blah, blah, in a way that is super Chinese surveillance state. Ish. And yeah, we're going to be dealing with these things for the rest of our lives. But unlike what that effing child scientist you quoted believes, China's doing all that stuff as fast as they can to dominate us and dominate the globe. So God help us.
Joe Getty
So Sundar Pichai the other day, he's the Google dude, right, said data centers in space will be the new normal in just a couple of years, as this commentator points out. Because Elon Musk has said that if Elon Musk, Musk and the CEO of Google start agreeing, pay attention. Orbital computing is closer than you think. So all those data centers, the cloud will be in the clouds. The data centers will be up in space. You know, you don't need to cool them so they can run more efficiently. It's cheaper. You know, space, you have space in space. That's the poor use. You have square footage you don't have.
Jack Armstrong
That should be our next T shirt. You have space in space.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Jack Armstrong.
Joe Getty
So you got that and Then you
Jack Armstrong
know what's amazing, I'm sorry about that real quickly is that. Well, I think we all through the years have heard it's so incredibly expensive to blast something into space. I mean, the astronauts are not allowed to bring any souvenirs. They always do. But because, you know, the incredible thrust, blah, blah, blah. But so it's cheaper to put that thing up in space than to run the air conditioning.
Joe Getty
I think it is now because of SpaceX and, and you know, whatever what's his name from Amazon has done. Bezos.
Jack Armstrong
Bezos.
Joe Getty
I think.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Stuff in space has gotten way, way, way, way cheaper now.
Jack Armstrong
And we wouldn't be here without the brave exploits of astronauts like Katy Perry.
Joe Getty
That's right. We will finish strong. Next, we need to take a break.
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Joe Getty
two classic sitcoms of the 90s, Things to Bring up.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Joe Getty
First Friends, now Michael. I'll need you to play your role of always guessing an extraordinary number that ruins the actual number. Lisa Kudrow, who played. What was her name? Phoebe. Phoebe on Friends. Can't believe I forgot. That was in an interview the other day and revealed what they're still getting per year on residuals. How much are they each getting per year on residuals? Ruin it for his first month.
Jack Armstrong
Michael.
Michael
I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say 5 million.
Joe Getty
Wow, you went low.
Jack Armstrong
$30 billion a year.
Joe Getty
They are still getting the remaining five that aren't, you know, have a ketamine doctor. $20 million per year. Oh my God.
Jack Armstrong
Hey, I got an idea, said one of them. Why don't we say we'll only sign for a percentage of the the syndication dollars. Yeah, that's a good idea. Let's ask for that. They said one sunny day in the 90s.
Joe Getty
Right? Right. Good idea. But the reason they're, you know, getting paid that much is how much? How Much money does friends still make? Like you talk about your daughter watched Friends. I mean, who. How much money did this friends still make somebody. And the reason it's so watchable is because of them might be the greatest ensemble cast in the history of ensemble. History of ensemble cast. So.
Jack Armstrong
But wow, that's a residual. Yeah.
Joe Getty
Another hit show that made people a lot of money. Seinfeld. I saw a thing with the real life Jerry Seinfeld having a conversation with Larry David, the other. The co creator of Seinfeld the other day. It was from his Comedians and Cars coffee thing. But anyway, they were talking about their diet and. And Jerry, who's pretty fit, was saying to Larry David, you're. You're like the most perfect eater, like most disciplined eater of like anybody in Hollywood maybe. I mean, maybe practically anybody in the world.
Jack Armstrong
He said, oh, I cheat sometimes.
Joe Getty
And Jerry Seinfeld says to Larry David, like, what's, what's an out of control? You like, goes, I might have a second piece of pizza. I don't remember the last time I did, but if I. And Jerry said what Larry asked him, well, what do you do? Like, if you're going six, I'll go six pieces of pizza.
Jack Armstrong
If I'm gonna eat pizza, I eat pizza. I love that.
Joe Getty
I might eat two, but I don't remember the last time I've done it.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Joe Getty
Can you imagine living that way? I'm sure you'd feel good and you'd be fit and all that, but. And then you gotta balance it against
Jack Armstrong
why are we alive? I mean, right.
Joe Getty
What is the point of life?
Jack Armstrong
That reminds me the, the whole. All the wegovy type drugs, the GLP ones or whatever they're called, people are talking about there's no more food noise. And scientists are like, we didn't know there was such a thing. We didn't know. Some people have that voice constantly going in their head. And it's probably about your set point weight that we've talked about. But it was funny in the absence of that, people are saying, oh my God, I didn't realize that was happening.
Joe Getty
Oh, wow. I don't.
Jack Armstrong
So I don't really advance in the science of obesity.
Joe Getty
I don't have that very much at all. Yeah. So some, some people have that like it's constant.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. How close are you to your top weight right now?
Joe Getty
Hard to say day. I've been roughly the same way. Roughly the same weight within like three, four pounds. Yeah. For 40 years.
Jack Armstrong
That's why probably it has to do with once you set 210 is your weight, and you go down to 190, your body's like, no, no.
Joe Getty
What?
Jack Armstrong
What? We're starving. We're starving. You must eat. You must eat, like, around the clock.
Joe Getty
Now, when I drank, I understand it from that standpoint, a drinking noise. I was either thinking about when I was gonna drink again next or recovering from a hangover always.
News Reporter
Hey, kids, it's that time again with Armstrong and Getty.
Joe Getty
Here's your host on Katie's last day for. Because of maternity leave. For final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Jack Armstrong
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew, starting with Michelangelo.
Joe Getty
Michael.
Michael
Well, first, congratulations to you and Drew, Katie, on your son. I'm hoping everything goes well. And just so you know that for the next eight to 10 weeks while you're gone, I have to run the board in a blonde wig per Hansen. So, yeah, I'm going to be a team player.
Jack Armstrong
We demanded it. Yep.
Michael
I like it.
Jack Armstrong
Katie Green, you can take as much time as you want for your final thoughts on this Friday.
Michael
Just while I'm very excited about what's coming, I am going to miss starting my day is talking to you guys
Jack Armstrong
a lot, so that's very sweet. You won't think of us twice.
Joe Getty
Maybe not once when the baby arrives.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I have a vague memory of two bitter old guys I used to work with. Seems like a hundred years ago. Oh, boy. Jack, final thought.
Joe Getty
It'll be more or less what Joe said to me when I had a kid. Katie is welcome to the club, and I can hardly get through it.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
Embarking on the ride of a lifetime.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, no kidding. My final thought is just Judy and I are. Are hoping and praying for the health of you and your babe and. And. And Drew's happiness and everything like that, and nothing else matters.
Michael
Thank you, guys.
Joe Getty
There's nothing like it.
Jack Armstrong
No. Oh, my God. Boy.
Michael
Okay, well, I left this some extra time here, guys.
Joe Getty
The problem is, though, the problem is you're not gonna have as much time for golf. Right?
Jack Armstrong
I know, right? Not enough square footage. We'll be back without Katie on Monday to argue about stuff that doesn't matter at all. Good God.
Joe Getty
Having gotten emotional just thinking about the idea of being a parent. That article is even stupider than it was a half an hour ago.
Jack Armstrong
If I were not a peaceful man, I'd be on a jet to New York to beat people. Physically beat them right now. But I won't.
Joe Getty
And of course, Michael feels the same way about his cats. I shouldn't say that.
Jack Armstrong
No, that was. Why would he come in for kicking right now, Michael, I must be.
Michael
A very peaceful, joyful moment.
Jack Armstrong
Right? And it was. It was.
Joe Getty
Was until.
Jack Armstrong
Yes, we. Dot, dot, dot. Okay.
Joe Getty
Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hours.
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So many people. Thanks. So little time. I urge you, I beg you, go to Armstrong and getty.com. we've got some great hot links for you, including that absolutely terrific description of how a millionaire and billionaire puts assets where they're most productive as opposed to government bureaucrats and how terrible that is. Plus some Angie swag by a enforce the law T shirt.
Joe Getty
I'm guessing there's going to be some amazing posts on your Twitter feed that we will repost once you have a baby and you start dressing the little guy in your funny. In your cool clothes.
Michael
Oh, yes, absolutely. And I'll be sending you guys pictures for sure.
Jack Armstrong
Just no sarcastic, ironic baby T shirts, please. That's no good. I'm bet you got a stack of 50 of them already. I know you don't get.
Michael
You don't get a say in that, Joe. I do have a stack of them already.
Joe Getty
Oh yeah, the little T shirts that say I rule the household and that sort of stuff.
Michael
I have one that says made in in Va. China.
Jack Armstrong
See you Monday.
Joe Getty
God bless America.
Jack Armstrong
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Episode Title: They Got No Erections!
Date: May 1, 2026
Duration: Approx. 50 minutes (content begins ~02:36, summary covers non-ad sections)
Hosts: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty
Tone: Conversational, irreverent, occasionally sentimental
This episode of the Armstrong & Getty Show is a lively mix of current events debate, cultural criticism, candid personal reflections on parenthood, and sharp humor. The hosts tackle several major topics—including declining birth rates and the narratives surrounding them, AI and national security worries, legislative developments, and a few lighter pop culture stories. The episode is also marked by heartfelt moments as the team says farewell (for now) to co-host Katie Green, who is leaving for maternity leave.
(03:05–05:51)
Notable Quote:
"If I wanted your opinion, I'll set your Reichstag on fire."
—Joe Getty [04:08], parodying the combative style of political discourse
(08:35–16:08)
Notable Quotes:
"You might have to give up golfing when you have a baby." —Joe Getty [10:59]
"The central example here is a couple living in 2,000 square feet...deciding that it is simply too small for a child to fit in and it would require giving up golf, the most give-up male hobby in history." —Jack Armstrong [11:03]
"It's fine if you decide you don't want kids...but I love the New York Times being so determined to jam this cost of living narrative into our heads..." —Jack Armstrong [11:03]
"People are not having kids, I think mostly for some sort of biological reason that we don't understand..." —Joe Getty [12:39]
"I want to prioritize my own happiness, and I think the best way to do that is not have any responsibilities...out of selfish and self-centeredness, prioritize my own needs every single day." —Joe Getty [14:29]
(20:06–22:04)
Notable Quote:
"The superficial grievance model of left wing politics relies on the existence of racially sorted districts. Today’s ruling... makes that sorting harder. That’s what matters here."
—Paraphrase of political writer John Tillman, cited by Joe Getty [21:31]
(25:35–35:37)
Notable Quotes:
"If we invent something smarter than us, it could get out of control. Are we out of control compared to what squirrels want in the world?" —Joe Getty [26:19]
"If only we'd collaborated with the Nazis on the development of the atom bomb, that would have kept humanity so much safer." —Jack Armstrong [29:06]
“China is a country run by scientists and engineers. Our country’s run by lawyers. So AI would be better off in their hands...There’s no such thing as independent anything in Communist China. It all works for and serves the Communist Party. How does everybody not know that?" —Joe Getty [29:48]
"I'm so stunned by that attitude...But that's just. It's astonishing." —Jack Armstrong [30:21]
(34:17–35:34)
(38:55–41:41)
Notable Quote:
“Why are we alive? I mean, right?” —Jack Armstrong [41:49]
(43:23–44:47)
Notable Quotes:
“Welcome to the club, and I can hardly get through it. Embarking on the ride of a lifetime.” —Joe Getty [44:20]
“My final thought is just Judy and I are hoping and praying for the health of you and your babe...nothing else matters.” —Jack Armstrong [44:33]
“There’s nothing like it.” —Joe Getty [44:45]
(45:09–46:19)
This episode exemplifies Armstrong & Getty’s signature combination of snark, skepticism of mainstream media narratives, and undercurrent of earnestness—especially visible in team milestones. If you enjoy high-energy media critiques, heated banter, and the occasional heartfelt moment, this is a quintessential episode.
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