This Is Why You're Not A Scientist

Summary

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Episode: "This Is Why You're Not A Scientist"

Date: December 11, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Overview

In this episode, Armstrong and Getty tackle a wide range of topics—global politics, government worker unions, Florida's medical lawsuits, shifting American demographics, white privilege debates, and why ice is slippery—infusing their signature irreverence and skepticism throughout. They critique political motives behind news events, analyze American society’s evolving narratives, and inject plenty of humor and personal anecdotes along the way.

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Key Segments & Insights

1. Venezuela Oil Tanker Seizure & Geopolitics

[02:59-06:29]

• Summary:
  The duo discusses U.S. forces' seizure of a Venezuelan oil tanker accused of transporting sanctioned oil, linking it to wider geopolitical issues involving Russia, China, and sanctions evasion. They muse if Trump is playing "nine-dimensional chess" with oil sanctions and global adversaries.

• Notable Quotes:

  • “The world has just been letting this happen forever and maybe Trump has decided that's enough of that.” — Joe Getty [04:34]
  • “Is part of the buildup around Venezuela... to do this without specifically saying out loud to Vladimir Putin... that your Daisy getting around the oil sanctions are coming to an end?” — Joe Getty [04:50]
  • “Our oil now. Finders keepers.” — Jack Armstrong [06:25]

2. Espionage Adventure: Maria Corina Machado’s Escape

[06:32-08:56]

• Summary:
  They recount the tale of Nobel Peace Prize winner Maria Corina Machado’s secret escape from Venezuela, evading authorities with disguises and a harrowing boat ride to Curacao, highlighting both the drama and international implications.

• Notable Quotes:

  • “She had to get from there to a coastal fishing village. Over the course of 10 nerve wracking hours, Machado and two people helping her escape... they hit 10 military checkpoints, avoiding capture.” — Jack Armstrong [06:32]
  • “A drone strike on the Nobel Peace Prize winner would not have looked good.” — Joe Getty [08:12]

3. Government Unions: Repealing Trump’s Executive Order

[09:02-11:36]

• Summary:
  Jack campaigns against collective bargaining for government employees, arguing it gives unions undue power over taxpayers and agencies like Defense and State. They analyze why 13 Republicans from union-heavy states joined Democrats to reverse Trump’s order.

• Notable Quotes:

  • “Most people with sanity know that there should not be collective bargaining for public employees, including, one might argue, school teachers.” — Jack Armstrong [09:27]
  • “You'd hope Republicans would stand up for principle, but nah, it’s not going to happen.” — Jack Armstrong [11:36]

4. Florida Lawsuits Targeting Medical Groups & Gender Care

[11:36-15:25]

• Summary:
  The Florida Attorney General is suing Starbucks for alleged discrimination and major health groups for providing “gender-affirming care” to minors. Jack and Joe question the scientific and ethical basis for pediatric transition, likening it to tobacco industry cover-ups.

• Notable Quotes:

  • “Removing healthy genitalia from children unsupported by any reasonable evidence-based science is horrific.” — Jack Armstrong [13:48]
  • “I think it’s absolutely imperative you recognize we’re talking about medical professionals and their groups.” — Jack Armstrong [13:48]
  • “Oh, the mind virus is a real thing. I agree with Elon on that.” — Joe Getty [14:30]

5. Demographic Shifts and White Privilege Discourse

[18:08-22:50]

• Summary:
  Tapping into cultural commentary, the hosts highlight a Jimmy Fallon joke about the declining number of white Americans per census data, critiquing social celebration of demographic decline. They react sharply to Rep. Sarah Stalker’s remarks on white privilege and teaching guilt for skin color.

• Notable Quotes:

  • “That is a really great emblem of how sick that time was where self hatred among white people was so fashionable.” — Jack Armstrong [19:15]
  • “I don't feel good about being white every day for a lot of reasons, because it's a point of privilege...” — Rep. Sarah Stalker, quoted by Jack [20:17]
  • “You're so crazy... these people are sick and they're teaching your kids.” — Jack Armstrong [22:41]

6. NATO Warns of Looming Russian Threat

[25:56-29:09]

• Summary:
  The hosts review a powerful Berlin speech by the NATO Secretary General urging Europe to prepare for possible war with Russia, pointing to China’s material support for Russia and the lackluster European defense posture. They debate America’s and Europe’s roles in NATO.

• Notable Quotes:

  • “Russia has brought war back into Europe.” — Joe Getty [25:56]
  • “We must be prepared for the scale of war our grandparents and great grandparents endured.” — NATO Secretary General, relayed by Joe Getty [26:01]
  • “You got a handful of countries that can’t even reform their entitlements and... the rest of the things, the socialism, in short, that's dragging them down... Never mind dedicating another 2, 3, 4% of their GDP to defense. Good luck with that.” — Jack Armstrong [28:15]

7. Science Corner: Why Is Ice Slippery?

[29:55-39:03]

• Summary:
  The hosts dig into the mystery of why ice is slippery, debunking old theories (pressure, friction) and discussing current research on molecular instability at the surface. The science segment is filled with jokes and personal stories of painful ice slips.

• Notable Quotes/Moments:

  • “See, this is why you’re not a scientist.” — Jack Armstrong [31:34]
  • “I could feel it in it. It feels like there was a pause in midair...I was horizontal in the air at about eye height...before I came down to the ground completely flat.” — Joe Getty, on falling in a tuxedo [30:30]

8. Nostalgia & Social Change: Outdoor Fun Then & Now

[36:11-39:51]

• Summary:
  Personal recollections of skating and hockey on frozen ponds—sometimes literally on top of sewage—illustrate changes in childhood safety norms, legal liability, and the erosion of free-range, unsupervised kid adventures.

• Notable Quotes:

  • “We played on sewage...that's what we've lost in America. That was the sliding down the hill generation won World War Two.” — Jack Armstrong [39:03]
  • “There's no way you'd come close to doing that sort of thing now.” — Joe Getty [38:31]

9. 401k "Millionaires" and the Reality of Inflation

[42:27-45:09]

• Summary:
  Joe reflects on the growing number of "401k millionaires," unimpressed when adjusting for inflation: today's million doesn't go nearly as far as it did in 1980 or even 2000. They urge listeners to anchor financial expectations in reality.

• Notable Quotes:

  • “If you go back to 1980...that’d be like someone at $250,000 back then...to be the same as what a millionaire was in the year 2000.” — Joe Getty [43:58-44:25]
  • “Keep pumping currency into the economy and devaluing everything we've worked for government.” — Jack Armstrong [44:25]

10. Final Thoughts: Cheeseburgers, Pizza, and Life Philosophies

[45:15-46:44]

• Summary:
  The show wraps up with a light-hearted discussion of food cravings sparked by their own chatter—cheeseburgers, fries, and supreme pizza—and a quick nod to the importance of clear-minded reality as a guiding philosophy.

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Notable Quotes by Timestamp & Attribution

• "Finders keepers, we found this." — Joe Getty [06:29]
• "You'd hope Republicans would stand up for principle, but nah, it's not going to happen." — Jack Armstrong [11:36]
• "Removing healthy genitalia from children unsupported by any reasonable evidence-based science is horrific." — Jack Armstrong [13:48]
• "That is a really great emblem of how sick that time was where self hatred among white people was so fashionable." — Jack Armstrong [19:15]
• "We must be prepared for the scale of war our grandparents and great grandparents endured." — NATO Secretary General, paraphrased by Joe Getty [26:01]
• "See, this is why you're not a scientist." — Jack Armstrong [31:34]
• "We played on sewage...that's what we've lost in America." — Jack Armstrong [39:03]
• "Keep pumping currency into the economy and devaluing everything we've worked for government." — Jack Armstrong [44:25]

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Episode Tone

Brash, sarcastic, occasionally sentimental, and always skeptical. The hosts lean into their roles as cultural critics, leavening serious analysis with dark humor and lived experience.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a whirlwind tour through headline news, politics, cultural trends, and even science, all viewed through Armstrong and Getty’s irreverent lens. They’re skeptical of mainstream political narratives, critical of culture wars, and fond of real-world practicality—making for an unpredictable and lively show.

Transcript

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[News Reporter]

This SC that you saw off the coast of Venezuela really underscores just how dynamic this whole situation is in which you see US Forces being brought over to that ship by helicopter, rappelling down onto the deck, seizing the ship, taking it into custody. The attorney General's office says that this ship was carrying sanctioned oil and contends that it has done so for Venezuela and Iran in the past. And this is certainly an escalation, yet a major move that is being made by the administration here in the region.

[Joe Getty]

Region, yeah, Venezuela and Iran. This is a report on News Nation this morning I thought was so interesting. Then they went to a military guy who said obviously this involves Venezuela, but it's also got to do with Russia and China and the war in Ukraine and everything else. And that there are many, many oil tankers around the world that just fly under false flags illegally transporting oil around to get around the various sanctions that the countries that are part of the world order try to put on bad countries. And you always wonder how do they get around these sanctions? Well, it's these sort of oil tankers. And was this at least the analysis on News Nation was this wasn't just, you know, the ongoing trying to force Venezuela out. This was dealing with a separate problem also of we got to do something about these illegal oil shipments that have been going on forever. I mean forever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do we just not hear about these seizures or are they really, really rare? They never happen.

[Joe Getty]

That's what the guy was talking about. The world has just been letting this happen forever and maybe Trump has decided that's enough of that.

And I wonder now this is getting into the giving Trump credit for nine dimensional chess thing.

Is part of the buildup around Venezuela. To do this without specifically saying out loud to Vladimir Putin to poke him or whatever that your Daisy getting around the oil sanctions are coming to an end.

Realize that's a bit of a stretch, but.

[Jack Armstrong]

A bit of a stretch but not crazy. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I call it, you know, it's a minority likelihood, less than 50. But I'll talk to Candace Owens.

[Joe Getty]

We'll just get our conspiracy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh Lord, it's the Jews. There you go. I saved you the trouble. Oh yeah. And what's the, what's the latest one? Oh, that the US Government killed Charlie Kirk.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

The help of the Jews and Eric North Kirk.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, back to the. So we, we landed a bunch of our, our military geniuses on the, the they repel down onto the oil tanker, took it over the people on the oil tanker, didn't fight back. That was a good move since the U.S. you know, a quarter of the U.S. navy's in the area. But Trump was asked what's going to happen to the oil? And this was his answer. It's unfortunate what happened. I mean, I know exactly what happened. Again, it started a little bit, but we'll see if we can put it out. We're interested in the siege of this tanker. What happens to the oil on that ship? Well, we keep it, I guess.

[Jack Armstrong]

Where does it go? What does it go to?

[Joe Getty]

Well, you have to follow the tanker. You know, you're a good newsman, just follow the tank.

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[Joe Getty]

What do you do with the oil? I keep it. We keep it. I guess that's enough of that. Can't understand what they're saying. Anyway, we keep it, I guess.

[Jack Armstrong]

Our oil now. Finders keepers.

[Joe Getty]

So finders keepers, we found this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Speaking of Venezuela, have you heard the story of Maria Corina Machado, the Nobel Peace Prize winner? She was trying to get to Norway by Wednesday in time to receive the prize, but she couldn't quite get there in time. So she's been hiding in this suburb of Caracas for a year. But first she had to get from there to a coastal fishing village. Over the course of 10 nerve wracking hours, Machado and two people helping her escape, they hit 10 military checkpoints, avoiding capture. Each time she was wearing a wig and a disguise. Finally reached the coast by midnight, rested a couple hours, then launched off on a perilous trip across the open Caribbean Sea to Curacao.

[Joe Getty]

Now why does she have to do this? Is. Would she be arrested by the government if they could get a hold of her?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, especially if she's trying to leave or come back into the country or whatever, huh? Yeah, she's, she's in hiding. But there were strong winds, choppy seas slowed them down.

[Joe Getty]

That's a, that's interesting to me. I mean, prior to her becoming a big name, I could see how that was the case. But after she won the Nobel Peace Prize, God, he would bring down so much international pressure if he arrested her, certainly if he hurt her.

[Jack Armstrong]

But so. Well, Right, right. So hang with me here now. So at 5am she and her two companions set out on a high speed boat trip across choppy seas and strong winds. All right, so what was somebody luckily said, you know what we ought to do? We ought to kill. Call the U.S. yeah. Let the military know this is us, where we're launching from and when, man.

[Joe Getty]

A drone strike on the Nobel Peace Prize winner would not have looked good. And as you can see, the Nobel Peace Prize winner is still bobbing in the ocean, clinging to balsa woods. We hit her again.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Oh, boy. So they warned American forces in the region of the vessel's occupants to avoid the kind of airstrike that's hit more than 20 similar vessels in the past three months. Perhaps you've heard about it. So it was all coordinated and her. Her daughter accepted the Peace Prize, but she got.

To Oslo the next day and was vetted and. Or not vetted, but fetid and. And celebrated in the rest of it. Fetid and vetted.

[Joe Getty]

Very different situations.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, she was probably fetted, too. You can't have any joker walking off the street claiming they're the Nobel Peace Prize winner. But anyway, she got.

[Joe Getty]

I show up in a city hoping to be fetid, and they say, where's your birth certificate? I misread it. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

That'd be unfortunate. Right, Exactly. So, moving along to other news. This is not getting any coverage, but I think it's really, really interesting, particularly because this has been one of my many, many jihads through the years. And honestly, the confused. The reporting of it's been so confusing. Unless you know what they're talking about, you wouldn't know what they're talking about. There is a measure.

A bill, to overturn one of Trump's executive orders. The executive order said no federal employee collective bargaining with the union. The unions can't do that at an array of federal agencies, including parts of the Department of Defense, State, Veterans affairs, justice and Energy. Trump saying, essentially, we can't have the Department of Defense over a barrel because the union wants better benefits of the public employee union. And from Franklin D. Roosevelt on, most people with sanity know that there should not be collective bargaining for public employees, including, one might argue, school teachers. We could argue about that another day. It's just fraught with difficulties because the taxpayers are on the other side of the table and generally nobody represents their interests.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, having said that.

[Jack Armstrong]

So there's this law to overturn Trump's executive order that the leadership won't, the House leadership won't support. And so they're trying to pull off this discharge petition where you get enough votes, and whether the House leaders want it on the floor or not, it's coming to the floor for a vote. Here's the interesting thing. Thirteen Republicans joined Democrats to advance that bill.

To end Trump's efforts to cut down on the collective bargaining of unions. Screwing up the government.

[Joe Getty]

Why'd that happen?

[Jack Armstrong]

I found this interesting.

A couple of these people, several of them are like in swing districts and a couple of them just directly get a lot of union support. But here's where the 13 were from. The 13 congresspeople. New Jersey, New York, New York, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, Nebraska, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Iowa, New Jersey, Minnesota and Ida and Ohio. They're just all in big union states.

You'd hope Republicans would stand up for principle, but nah, it's not going to happen. So moving along, mentioned this early in the show. This is a huge, huge story. We played the whole audio of the Attorney General of Florida announcing this. James Utmyer. But the state of Florida has filed two blockbuster lawsuits. One against.

Starbucks for discriminating against white people in the post George Floyd madness era. But secondly, Florida has filed suit against star three medical groups that have pushed children being mutilated in these sex change experiments that kids can't possibly consent to. The W Path Maniacs, the World Professional association for Transgender Health, the Endocrine Society and the American Academy of Pediatrics. And he just absolutely blasts them. They failed to disclose the risks, limits and evidence when promoting, promoting so called gender affirming care for children. For years these groups insisted the recommendations were settled science. But behind the closed doors they knew the evidence was weak, they said so they knew the outcomes are uncertain and the risk was real. And parents were not told the full story. In fact, many of them were, were emotionally blackmailed that if you did not turn Johnny into Jenny, Jenny would commit suicide.

[Joe Getty]

So is the key proving that they knew they.

Were doing the wrong thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or should you have known you're allowed to be wrong?

Yeah, but if you're a medical association pushing say some heart surgery that there's no statistical evidence that it's a good idea. Yeah, you're absolutely liable.

[Joe Getty]

I just wonder if it's like the tobacco companies, if they got emails or whatever where people communicating or it's pretty clear that they knew they were pushing bs.

[Jack Armstrong]

That would sure help, I would think. Although, I mean, if it's just gross negligence, I think they actually believed it.

[Joe Getty]

I mean I've, I've heard people say it out loud.

That the whole, well, you have to, you have to, you know, do the.

What do they call that? Addictomy or gender affirming. Yeah, or the kid will commit suicide. So you got no chance.

[Jack Armstrong]

But you said people and I think it's absolutely imperative you recognize we're talking about medical professionals and their groups. I mean, removing healthy genitalia from children Unsupported by any reasonable evidence based science is horrific.

[Joe Getty]

Can I believe that they took the.

Very specific small study about suicide and extrapolated it in their own minds to get the woke mind virus and believed it? Yeah, I do believe that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely true. So where this goes should be really, really interesting to watch.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, the mind virus is a real thing. I agree with Elon on that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Makes, you know. Yeah, I just read actually a different study about how so much of the transgender stuff was just a signal of political position, political attitudes and that the kids are so susceptible to that sort of thing. Tribal signaling or fashion signaling or I want to be in the in crowd signaling. That makes it all the more monstrous that you would seize on that sort of thing among children and alter their bodies forever. It's monstrous.

[Joe Getty]

It's like that buddy of mine, he and his daughter, high school daughter, her and all her friends, like nine of them decided they were gay at school and he was telling her, statistically, that's really just not possible.

[Jack Armstrong]

And also statistically, in just a few years, the vast majority of you will say, never mind. If not all of them, yeah, yeah, so go Florida.

[Joe Getty]

A Jimmy Fallon joke just came across on Twitter. I don't know how old it is. It doesn't make any difference. It's really interesting. Among other things. Stay tuned.

[Jack Armstrong]

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This is where mindset comes in.

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Pressure is coming down.

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[Joe Getty]

This is kind of apropos or nothing and we don't need to dwell on it. And I don't know how long ago this was guessing since they're Talking about the 2020 census, it was when do we get that information? A year, year or two later, Something like that. Yeah, any who and there's scary. There's music behind this because I came across it on Twitter and they want it to be scary. It actually is scary. But this is a joke from the Tonight show and Jimmy Fallon when he was talking about census data.

[Jack Armstrong]

Some more news. The results of the 2020 census just came out and for the first time in American history, the number of white people went down.

[Joe Getty]

That's the whole clip just. And Jimmy Fallon had a look on his face. He looked at the band, made this confused face like why are you cheering that? Wow, what a great weird. How often has that ever happened? I've asked this question many times. How often has this ever happened in world history where any group of people. Because I guarantee a lot of those people cheering were white cheers. Their own diminishing power or existence or whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

As I started to say, that is a really great emblem of how sick that time was where self hatred among white people was so fashionable. Some have clung on to that, but they're sick.

[Joe Getty]

I think it's still around and I don't care what the percentage of white people are. Doesn't make any difference to me. If you believe in, you know, self governance and limited government, low taxes, you're.

[Jack Armstrong]

On my hue of your skin. Got nothing to do with it.

[Joe Getty]

But.

Fewer white people, no matter your color, is strange.

Subhorrent, sick, and obviously don't even need to say this. Obviously. If you said that about any other skin color or religion or anything like that and people cheered, it would be a national crisis.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. They would end your career, take away your children. Oh, speaking of which, let's play this now. It goes along great. This is Congresswoman Sarah Stalker, Democrat of Kentucky at an education hearing. 11. Michael.

[Congresswoman Sarah Stalker]

I don't feel good about being white every day for a lot of reasons because it's a point of privilege that I get to move through the world in a way that so many of my other colleagues and friends and family members of the community don't get the privilege to do. And I'm just a female, but just a woman. Just a white woman. If I was a white man, I would be functioning from a point of even greater privilege. I think we're missing an opportunity when kids have a moment to reflect about how the color of their skin does and does not allow them to move through the world. Running to them and trying to stifle that and trying to say you shouldn't feel bad. So we don't want to, we don't want to ever expose you to something that is going to make you have to pause and have maybe some internal feelings. It's a missed opportunity for some really good dialogue.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God. What is she favor of making white children feel bad for the color of their skin in every class.

[Joe Getty]

And she is a. What, what is her position on power?

[Jack Armstrong]

Is she a congressperson or is that a state legislator?

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[Joe Getty]

I don't care if she's a hot dog vendor on the corner. That attitude is unbelievable.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

So she went from she not only is going to, you need to recognize it, which I've never understood what the hell that means. What, what am I supposed to do with that information?

[Jack Armstrong]

It is somewhat easier to be a white person than a black person, for instance. Okay, great.

[Joe Getty]

Some of the time, probably depending on.

[Jack Armstrong]

What do you want me to do? Just feel bad.

[Joe Getty]

But then she took it to if kids aren't feeling bad, that's a problem, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

You are so nuts.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, certainly misled. But she's a useful idiot of neo Marxism that seeks to pit all of us against each other, victim and oppressor at every moment. And how do you get power away from the patriarchy or the white supremacists as they see it? By shaming them into giving away, you know, virtually everything they have.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, but that's true. I'll bet she actually believes this also, though. Play that very first part again, though. I thought that was interesting. Just the first, like, sentenceful idiot.

[Congresswoman Sarah Stalker]

I don't feel good about being white every day.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, that's good. I. You go through every day of your life not feeling good about your skin color.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're so crazy.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, that's on your mind every day.

I'd like to crawl inside her brain for a while and live that way.

[Jack Armstrong]

These people are sick and they're teaching her kids. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Different topic. The NATO Secretary General just gave one hell of a speech in Berlin that we ought to pay attention to. No matter your skin color and I.

[Jack Armstrong]

Will finally pay off. Why is ice slippery? Science thinks they've figured it out.

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They didn't know why.

[Jack Armstrong]

We can fall on our heads. Happily knowing science can explain it. Armstrong and Getty.

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The toughest job interview in fitness that will push past physical and mental breaking points.

You are the fittest of the fit. Only one of you. We'll leave here with an IFIT contract for $250,000.

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This is where mindset comes in.

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Someone will be eliminated.

[Jack Armstrong]

Pressure is coming down.

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[Joe Getty]

Russia has brought war back into Europe.

[Jack Armstrong]

And we must be prepared for the.

[Joe Getty]

Skill of war our GR and great grandparents endured. That's part of quite a speech that was given today in Berlin by the current.

NATO Secretary General. That's Mark Root. I don't know what his nationality is.

The commander of NATO is always an American because we are NATO and NATO will only succeed with us, at least so far. But the secretary general said today we are Russia's next target. We must shift to a wartime mindset. Ukraine must have what it needs to defend itself. Russia's losing 1200 soldiers a day. If Putin's willing to sacrifice ordinary Russians like this, what is he prepared to do to us? 80% of the critical components in Russians, drones and missiles are made in China. China is a lifeline for Russia's war. Russia could be ready to use military force against NATO within five years. Conflict is at our door. And then what you just heard, we must be prepared for the scale of war our grandparents and great grandparents endured.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Wow is right. And that's aimed at least partly right at Trump too, with that recent security document that came out that honestly, its significance is overrated. But yeah, I think Europe is really, really concerned about Trump's attitude toward Russia and Europe.

Of course.

[Joe Getty]

What are they willing to do about it?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I like what he's saying, that Europe needs to be ready to. Well, it needs to be ready for war on that scale should it come. As opposed to being a fat, lazy old, you know, you know, family pet of the United States that does nothing to protect the homestead.

[Joe Getty]

As I've pointed out before. I forget what Thinker said. We're for European countries in this battle. There are those that can but won't, and there are those that can't and won't. That's pretty much your choices.

[Jack Armstrong]

You got a handful of countries that can't even reform their entitlements and, And. And the rest of the things, the socialism, in short, that's dragging them down to balance their budget, Never mind dedicating another 2, 3, 4% of their GDP to defense. Good luck with that.

[Joe Getty]

Well, how about that shot at China? What was. What's the intention there? 80% of the critical components in Russians, drones and missiles are made in China. China is a lifeline for Russia's war.

[Jack Armstrong]

Partly because in that new. That new foreign policy document that the Trump administration put out, they kissed up to China. They made it all about, hey, we got to do business with China. Let's do business with them there, buddy. And Europe needs to straighten up, including the.

[Joe Getty]

The best new Nvidia chips.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And Ukraine needs to give up and the rest of it. Yeah. The Euros are not happy with the state of American foreign policy right now.

[Joe Getty]

I'm not happy with their foreign policy. Why don't you do something about it? As I've said 80 times, I'm on Donald Tusca, Poland's side. Why are we.

Equal economy to the United States, counting on them to defend ourselves against Russia?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that's what Root's saying. That's exactly what he's saying. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Well, you're turning it into Trump. I'm standing up for America about Europe, does something about their own backyard.

And then.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was beautiful. That was really good.

[Joe Getty]

That was saying. I think. I think that's when I think that's when Lee Greenwood comes on the stage.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or some eagle flies by or. I'm not sure really, but, yeah, probably me in the balls.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. Hit rock, punches you in the balls. It's exactly right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, couple old guys fighting.

[Joe Getty]

Here's my best slipping on the ice story before you explain to us why ice is slippery. And I've fallen down on ice many, many times in my life, having grown up in South Dakota, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Kansas. I've slipped on the ice many, many times. But my best slipping on the ice, that hurt the most and was the most embarrassing. I'm in a tuxedo, I think, for a wedding, and.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hard shoes are bad on ice, man. Oh, boy.

[Joe Getty]

And the worst of hard shoes. Cheap rental tuxedo.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, no.

[Joe Getty]

Which aren't likely to have the. Any rubber grips on them or anything like that. They're just the smooth leather somehow, like it was like a cartoon. I could feel it in it. It feels like there was a pause in midair. Both my feet went out and I feel like I was horizontal in the air at about eye height. That's what it felt like to me for like a second with music bellying in the background before I came down to the ground completely flat on the sidewalk.

[Jack Armstrong]

It was just a whip.

[Joe Getty]

How did that hurt? Ouch. Still don't know how that happened.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ouchie. Because ice is slippery, Jack. But why is ice slippery? I had no idea. We didn't know. It never occurred to me to ask. Everybody knows it's slippery because ice is. Is got a thin watery layer on top of it.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that's what I was gonna say. If you put a thin watery layer on anything, pavement, anything, it's slippery. So that seems to answer the question.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's more slippery. But why is there a. See, this is why you're not a scientist. Why is there a thin watery layer?

Well, three main theories about the phenomenon have been debated over the past two centuries. This is one of the great questions confronting mankind, and one that, frankly, could go unanswered for the rest of time. And everybody continued to fall and break their elbow. But anyway, earlier this year, researchers in Germany, who ought to have a better defense, put forward a fourth hypothesis that they say solves the puzzle. All right, so hypothesis number one was pressure. Like if you're skating or you step on it, the pressure melts the surface, making it slippery. No, in the 1930s, they disproved that. They calculated like a load of crap. To me, the average skier exerts way too little pressure to significantly alter ice's melting point. To do so, the skier would have to weigh thousands of kilograms. And certainly that 5,000 pound skier would need specially designed skis. Moving along, how about friction? Yes. It's the friction that melts the ice as you step on and blah, blah. They tested the theory in an artificial ice cave in the Swiss Alps, using a complex contraption to measure the friction between ice and other materials.

Although this explanation still appears in textbooks, many scientists disagree with it. The problem is that you only melt the ice behind you, not the ice you're actually skating on.

[Joe Getty]

Ah, right. Exactly. You haven't. You haven't had friction on the stuff that your skating blade is about to hit, and it's Already slippery.

[Jack Armstrong]

And to test the friction hypothesis, these scientists created a microscopic ice skating rink. They rotated a piece of metal standing in for a blade of a skate at different speeds by measuring the force required to move the metal and force the metal exerted onto the ice. Measure that. It turns out I was assuming that.

[Joe Getty]

Like all scientific experts experiments, it involved mice. So they put mice in tiny little.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ice skates.

Couldn'T get them laced up, tried over and over again, couldn't get them on tight, the mice's ankles just bent sideways, so they gave it up.

Anyway. That, that didn't work. In short, there's another possibility. The ice surface is wet before anything makes contact with it. That's called the pre melting theory.

Which is getting close.

But hypothesis number four. Recently a team of researchers in Germany identified arguments against all three prevailing theories for pressure to be high enough to meltite surfaces.

In short, it doesn't, it doesn't work.

[Joe Getty]

So my biggest question is, and I'll bet there's an answer to this, it seems like a lot of time, effort and money is being spent on trying to figure this out. So there must be some reason they think if they could figure out why. And I'll bet it's got to do with some sort of cheap transportation or something.

Why they need the answer to this question.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, and there was another explanation that I kind of skipped, that being that surface molecules don't have as many neighbors as low lying molecules and so they don't have enough energy to overcome the strong bonds with solid ice molecules. And that's what they're looking at right now. Gemstone polishers have long known from experience that some sides of a diamond are easier to polish or softer than others. In 2011, another German research group published a paper explaining this phenomenon. They created computer simulations of two diamonds sliding against each other. Atoms on the surface were mechanically pulled out of their bonds, which allowed them to move, form new bonds and so on. This sliding formed a structureless amorphous layer. In contrast to the liquid nature of the diamond, this layer is disordered and behaves more like a liquid than a solid. So it gets.

[Joe Getty]

Go ahead, I'll think about that the next time I'm polishing the diamond.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. So they argue that a similar mechanism happens in ice. They simulated ice surfaces sliding against each other, blah, blah, blah. It's, it's at a molecular level, it's just more unstable at the edges. And so, you know, I've, I've played pond hockey on days that so were so bitterly cold, it was a risk for frostbite at every moment. There was no melting of the surface of the ice under any circumstances. Yet. It was slippery as hell.

They should have asked a young pond hockey player.

[Joe Getty]

Our pond. Yeah, that's true. I've been on ice. It's not slippery.

Our pond nearby, when I lived in one time, moved a lot. And when we lived in near hazel green, Wisconsin, tiny little town, the pond that we'd go out on was actually the sewage.

Where all the sewage would go and it would freeze over and it have a ice on the top. And we'd go out there and skate around, stuff like that. But occasionally it would break, and.

I don't remember anybody ever falling in, but, like, you could throw rocks in that pond and the water that would splash up would be brown. It was disgusting and it smelled horrible. But we would go out on that when it was frozen. Winter wonderland.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're lucky. Our little town in Chicagoland, we had a big, big park at the time. It's kind of gotten squashed by building a school in the middle of it and that sort of thing. But they would just flood these large, large surfaces of the park, and it would freeze, like, for most of the winter. That was great to play on.

[Joe Getty]

That was the purpose.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

For.

[Jack Armstrong]

For pond hockey.

[Joe Getty]

Could you get away with that anymore? Or would you get sued because somebody fell and hurt their arm or.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, now you're making me sangry sad and angry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. But. Oh, yeah. God, we'd be out there for hours and hours and hours and hours, and at risk of getting a bruise or I took a couple of pucks off the face of maybe bleeding a little bit, and all we got out of it was constant exercise, inventing games, inventing rules, Adjudicating disputes for those rules, and just all without adult supervision. And when we did get our heads split open, we thought, ow.

[Joe Getty]

Huh?

[Jack Armstrong]

And we made our way home, and our mom said, oh, my God, what happened? And they dealt with our wounds, and we thought, yeah, it's no big deal to get hurt. You're generally pretty okay. It's a good thing we didn't do that.

[Joe Getty]

When we were kids, my grade school and high school, we had a steep hill that we skate. We slid down on our shoes in the middle of the winter. It was so much fun. Everybody would wear their Sunday school shoes on the bus in the winter. So you have your slipperiest shoes on and get at the top of the hill, and you just kind of squat down and go flying down that thing and crash at the bottom and everybody loved it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

There's no way you'd come close to doing that sort of thing now. I visited that school when we were at the the convention. The Republican convention in Madison. I drove over and checked out. School still has the hill, but I'll bet they don't let people sled down and in their shoes anymore.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would bet you any sum of money you're right.

[Joe Getty]

And as any. Is there a single human being that thinks that's better? There might be sort of moms that go to the skate park and make kids fill out forms to make sure they have a helmet on before they have any fun.

[Jack Armstrong]

I still can't get over the fact that Jack played on sewage.

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[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sewage hockey. It's like, well, we've lost in America. And the fact that that was the sliding down the hill generation one. World War two. All right. Didn't really. It was several generations though.

[Joe Getty]

Huh. I don't remember.

[Jack Armstrong]

Kicked ass in Grenada.

[Joe Getty]

So playing on the sewage pond is surprising to you? It's surprising to me. Looking back on it.

Explains a lot.

I don't know that any there were any parents that were aware we were doing it. So they might not have been in favor of it either. I don't. It was off far away.

[Jack Armstrong]

What was the death toll exactly?

[Joe Getty]

The death toll was zero. Luckily we were still still around to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Win World War II.

[Joe Getty]

According to Joe in the 70s we will finish ship strong.

[Jack Armstrong]

Next.

Armstrong and Getty.

[Trainer Games Host]

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You are the fittest of the fit. Only one of you will leave here with an IFIT contract for $250,000.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is where mindset comes in.

[Trainer Games Host]

Someone will be eliminated.

[Jack Armstrong]

Pressure is coming down.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Watch it on prime video starting January 8th.

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[Joe Getty]

I swear our goal on this show every day is not how could we depress people the most though sometimes it seems like that is our raison d' etre for this program to make you sad, scared or depressed. I. I don't know. It's just our personalities I guess. Anyway, there's this article that would would be uplifting if it weren't for I'm going to throw in there. Here's why you shouldn't be so happy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh no.

[Joe Getty]

401Ks are minting a generation of millionaires. Many Americans are peaking that their retirement accounts and cheering higher balances. I had to for legal reasons actually take a look at my 401k yesterday and was pretty pleased at where it was compared to the last place I looked at it because as you know, the stock market has been setting a record practically every day for quite a while now and it's a lot higher. As of the third quarter there were 654,000 millionaires in the brokerage Fidelity just from their 401k highest level. They've ever had.

My first thought when I read that was, yeah, but with inflation, it don't quite mean the same as it used to. So I got out my inflation calculator and here's where I like take what was supposed to be an uplifting story about how many of us are millionaires and turn it into. It's not quite the same. Depends on how far back you want to go. But if you go back to 1980, like, you know, were you a kid or whatever you were in 1980 and you had a view of what a millionaire was, well, that, that person, that'd be like someone at $250,000 back then. $250,000.

[Jack Armstrong]

A 250,000 there or another way to.

[Joe Getty]

Look at it was a millionaire back then. You'd have to have $4 million now to reach what you thought of as a millionaire back then in 1980. Or. Okay, that's too far back. You're not that old. Let's just go back to 2000, the beginning of this century. Still about half a million. So you still got to have about $2 million to be the same as what a millionaire was in the year 2000.

[Jack Armstrong]

Keep pumping currency into the economy and devaluing everything we've worked for government.

[Joe Getty]

I'm not actually. My goal actually isn't to make me or anyone else. My goal is to let, and this is one of the cores of conservative is to live in reality. There's no point in going around thinking I'm a millionaire. If your view of a millionaire is a little outdated given the inflation over the last several years.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, I mean, to the extent that I have a philosophy of the show at all. It's what is the truth? What's reality?

[Joe Getty]

That's something, isn't it?

[Jack Armstrong]

The, the 1980 number was interesting. The two year 2000 number was shocking. Yeah. Cut in half.

[Joe Getty]

Yikes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Are you ready to soft rock?

[Joe Getty]

Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the day. There he is, Michelangelo, pressing the buttons in the control room.

[Joe Getty]

Michael, final thought.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, we did a news story about cheeseburgers and then it turned into we need to get a cheeseburger for lunch. I'm just thinking, how often do we do stories about food and ends up becoming lunch after the show. A lot, A lot. Yeah, indeed. Katie Green, our esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie?

[Joe Getty]

Well, on that note, I have already planned my cheeseburger for later today.

[Jack Armstrong]

Once we talk about it I have to have it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, me too.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah, yeah. And you're cheeseburgering for two. Yes, I am. Jack, a final thought.

[Joe Getty]

The way I have started to do it is to. I'll indulge the cheeseburger, but no fries. There's really no reason for me to eat french fries. I love french fries. They're delicious. But I mean they're just. There's just like no health benefit to eating French fries.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I. I love the cheeseburger. Love it, love it, love it. Like everybody does. But if I had one food I had to eat only that the rest of my life, no question, be like supreme pizza. Number one, I'm a pizza freak. Number two, I get tired of sausage, I just pick off the sausage. I get tired of green peppers, I just pick off the peppers.

[Joe Getty]

So it's a bit of a cheating is what you're doing.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's not cheating at all. It's thinking. Do you consider thinking cheating? Do you? Do you?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's funny. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would eat pizza five days a week. Ah, so many people.

[Joe Getty]

Thanks.

[Jack Armstrong]

A little time. Go to armstrongandgetty.com the swag store is still open. Put a picture of the really cool T shirt you're gonna get your loved one under the tree. That's good enough. Drop us a note mailbagarmstrongandgetti.com yeah, give.

[Joe Getty]

Them a picture of their gift.

[Jack Armstrong]

They'll get us soon enough.

[Joe Getty]

Sure, we will see you tomorrow with all the news. Oh, tomorrow's Friday. Very excited about that. We'll see you then. God God bless America.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Yeti.

[Joe Getty]

Superstar Armstrong. Getty Armstrong.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Trainer Games Host]

Ten athletes will face the toughest job interview in fitness that will push past physical and mental breaking points.

You are the fittest of the fit. Only one of you will leave here with an IFIT contract for $250,000.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is where mindset comes in.

[Trainer Games Host]

Someone will be eliminated.

[Jack Armstrong]

Pressure is coming down.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Watch it on prime video starting January 8th.

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