Those Danged Robot Wolves

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "Those Danged Robot Wolves"

Date: September 5, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

Episode Overview

In this episode, Armstrong & Getty blend their trademark humor and skepticism to tackle a diverse slate of current events, ranging from the credibility of polls and national mood, to geopolitical developments, immigration policy, oddball tourism, and pop culture. Listeners are treated to conversations about robot wolves, rat tours in New York, immigration raids, and the new Nike slogan, interspersed with the duo’s playful banter and pointed critiques of political and social trends.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Credibility & Polling in America

[03:55 - 09:40]

• Credibility Loss: Joe Getty admits to repeatedly confusing major Brazilian cities, musing about how hard it is to regain lost credibility, paralleling this with institutions like the CDC post-COVID (“I have blown all my credibility on knowledge of big cities in Brazil...” – Joe Getty, 03:55).
• Polling Skepticism: Jack received a poll text from Emerson University Polling, but agonizes over how to answer the “right direction/wrong track” question regarding America, expressing frustration at the simplistic binary and concern about how his answer will be interpreted.
  • "I don't want my checkmark to be interpreted in that way. I'm agonizing over this." – Jack Armstrong, 07:53
  • They agree most people answer polls with little thought (“They're lazy bastards. Wrong track. Got it.” – Jack Armstrong, 09:40).
• Societal pessimism is evident as both think the U.S. is generally headed in the wrong direction, especially on issues like education, woke ideology, and national debt.

2. Clips of the Week & Robot Wolves

[09:47 - 12:16]

• The “Clips of the Week” montage sets a chaotic tone, covering violence in Chicago, global power shifts, “robot wolves” for military use, China’s global ambitions, and a medley of pop culture snippets.
  • Notable quote: “And four legged robot wolves designed to locate mines and hunt down soldiers.” (Clips of the Week, 10:22)

3. Epstein List Speculations

[12:16 - 13:31]

• Discussion about the press conference regarding the Epstein deal and the vagueness of rumored lists of alleged offenders.
  • “Why are you holding it back if you have..." – Joe Getty, 12:58
  • They question the usefulness and credibility of such lists, noting how social circles do not equate to guilt, and the fatigue surrounding the ongoing coverage.

4. Geopolitics & Pessimism

[13:31 - 14:52]

• The hosts link U.S. debt and shifting global alliances (referencing recent meetings between China and Russia) to an undercurrent of anxiety about the future.
  • “If you combine our national debt with the changing world order, man, I don't want to be, you know, a pessimist. I mean, those are two...” – Joe Getty, 13:31

5. Weekend Blues, “Sunday Scaries,” and Relatable Humor

[14:00 - 15:24]

• The hosts have a philosophical exchange about weekend anxieties and "Sunday Scaries."
  • “But that is a feeling. I remember saying that to my dad when I was young. God, when Sunday night comes, I just look at the week and then he said, I've been doing that my whole life.” – Joe Getty, 14:16

6. Rabid Robot Wolves & Listener Emails

[15:24 - 15:50]

• Citing an email from a listener, the hosts humorously discuss the hypothetical idea of Chinese “robot wolves” infected with rabies—tying back to the episode title and current anxieties about AI and foreign militaries.
  • “Now picture the Chicoms infecting their robot wolves with rabies. Oh boy. Rabid Chinese robot wolves.” – Listener email read by Jack Armstrong, 15:24
  • “If you didn't see those Chinese robot wolves, that's wrong track for sure.” – Joe Getty, 15:44

7. The Reality of Polling & Lotteries

[19:59 - 24:59]

• Contradiction between media perceptions and polling data, e.g., RFK Jr.'s higher-than-expected approval rating (“You would assume he's got an approval rating of about 1%. It's 45.” – Joe Getty, 19:59).
• The psychology behind lottery fever and irrational beliefs about lucky stores and number choices.
  • “Players tend to choose numbers that have a personal connection, like birthdays of them and their kids.” – Jack Armstrong, 22:18
  • Both hosts agree most winners end up worse off, but disagree on whether that's media bias or true (“So hard for me to imagine most people winning a billion dollars and not having it ruin their lives...” – Joe Getty, 24:21)

8. Immigration Raid at Hyundai Plant

[28:33 - 33:09]

• News break: nearly 500 people, mostly South Korean nationals, arrested at a Hyundai battery plant under construction in Georgia.
  • Discussion about top-level deals that lead to concentrations of certain nationalities in certain jobs.
  • Possible “wink and nod” agreements between U.S. and foreign companies, and how labor/immigration policy enforcement often targets workers but not employers.
  • “You could snuff out illegals working in hotels and restaurants... if you went after the businesses. But there's never been much political will do that.” – Joe Getty, 32:25
  • The politics of U.S.-South Korean investment, tariffs, and potential hardball tactics.

9. Ukraine, Europe, and Russian Threats

[33:16 - 35:39]

• Significant international tension as 26 European countries pledge troops for Ukraine; Putin says any NATO troops in Ukraine will be "legitimate targets."
  • “Any European troops, any NATO troops in Ukraine, I will consider legitimate targets. That's some pretty hard ball right there.” – Joe Getty, 33:16
  • Cynical take on peace negotiations, with Zelensky refusing Putin’s “invitation” to meet in Moscow.

10. Weird Tourism: New York Rat Tours

[35:39 - 40:48]

• “Rat tourism” is now a thing in NYC, with guided tours of rodent-infested areas becoming trendy.
  • “Multiple tours now lead visitors to rat infested hotspots. With tickets going as much as $50 a pop.” – Jack Armstrong, 38:09
  • The hosts grimly reminisce about giant urban rats and marvel at American ingenuity: “That’s the most American thing I’ve ever heard.” – Jack Armstrong, 39:20

11. Evolving Brand Messaging: Nike’s New Slogan

[44:26 - 48:24]

• Nike launches “Why Do It?” campaign alongside “Just Do It,” aimed to counter “cringe culture” and the stigma against trying and failing.
  • “I like trying to turn the tide on that. The fact that the tide needs to be turned is disturbing.” – Joe Getty, 46:28
  • Hosts approve of the intent, but remain slightly wary of corporate bandwagoning.
  • Broader themes of effort, failure, and youth culture are discussed, with Jack emphasizing teaching his kids resilience: “It’s okay to be bad at something. In fact, it’s necessary. Embrace it.” – Jack Armstrong, 46:58

12. Final Thoughts & Lighthearted Close

[48:34 - End]

• Armstrong and Getty each share a personal anecdote. Joe resolves to engage with neighbors at a BBQ (49:07), while Jack bemoans a surprise food coma from an unexpectedly heavy bagel sandwich (49:29).
• The episode closes with their signature blend of earnestness and humor, referencing the week’s oddest headline: “Unless those dang commie robot wolves show up to do us in.” – Jack Armstrong, 50:39

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On pessimism and the “direction” of the country:

  “How would you claim the United States is not going in the wrong direction as opposed to the right direction?”
  — Joe Getty, 08:07

• On the absurdity of lottery habits:

  “Oh, they’ve sold two winning tickets in the last 20 years. I’m going to that store.”
  — Jack Armstrong, 21:30

• On bizarre tourism trends:

  “The rat tour is the new trendy thing.”
  — Jack Armstrong, 38:56

• On the Nike rebrand:

  “It’s okay to be bad at something. In fact, it’s necessary. Embrace it.”
  — Jack Armstrong, 46:58

• Humorous callback to “robot wolves”:

  “If you didn’t see those Chinese robot wolves, that’s wrong track for sure.”
  — Joe Getty, 15:44

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Timestamps of Important Segments

| Timestamp | Topic | |----------------|--------------------------------------------------------| | 03:55-09:40 | Credibility & polling in America, public pessimism | | 09:47-12:16 | Clips of the Week, robot wolves, world disorder | | 12:16-13:31 | Epstein list and victim/abuser confusion | | 13:31-15:24 | Geopolitics, pessimism, “Sunday Scaries” | | 15:24-15:50 | Listener email: rabid Chinese robot wolves | | 19:59-24:59 | Polling realities, lottery psychology | | 28:33-33:09 | Hyundai immigration raid, labor market oddities | | 33:16-35:39 | Ukraine, NATO, Russia: escalation and peace talk | | 35:39-40:48 | Rat tourism in NYC | | 44:26-48:24 | Nike’s “Why Do It?” campaign, cringe culture | | 48:34-End | Show wrap-up, final thoughts, neighborly updates |

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Tone & Style

Armstrong & Getty bounce between gallows humor, exasperated critique, and relatable musings, maintaining a conversational and sometimes absurd tone even as they address serious global and domestic issues. Listeners who haven’t heard the episode will enjoy this mix of satire, skeptical news commentary, and pop-culture observations—with a dash of Midwestern neighborliness and a running theme: “Those dang robot wolves!”

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This summary skips all sponsor segments, promotional spots, and non-content material, focusing purely on the main show conversation.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

We've been talking a lot lately, lately about how you blow your credibility. It takes a very, very long time to build it back up if, if you ever can. And like the CDC blew all their credibility during COVID and so now nobody believes them. I have blown all my credibility on knowledge of big cities in Brazil and I don't know if I'll ever be able to build my credibility back up again as I have been in my mind confusing Rio and St. San Paulo, clearly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which is Sao Paulo. There's. Well, you're talking about credibility and you're calling New York New Mork.

[Joe Getty]

No.

[Jack Armstrong]

So credibility, I got.

[Joe Getty]

I got no credibility and I don't ever plan to have any credibility on the big cities of Brazil.

[Jack Armstrong]

So.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I. Well, low bar. Yes. Low bar, yes. This is not my wheelhouse and I don't intend it to ever be. But the big giant statue is in Rio.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

And that's where Taylor Swift played. So I don't know anything about the crime situation in Sao Paulo.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sao Paulo, So Americans say so.

[Joe Getty]

Okay. But that's where the football game is tonight with Chiefs, Chargers, and it's. Well, they're both very, very large cities and they're probably similar crime wise, I would guess.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, probably, yeah. Roughly, yeah. But did we ever come up with a population for Sao Paulo? I remember being shocked that it's one of the biggest cities on earth. Sao.

[Joe Getty]

And what's the population of Sao Paulo, Brazil? You know who I asked? Who do you ask? If you ask Want to know anything? You ask chat GPT and the answer is 12 million people.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a big city.

[Joe Getty]

That is a very big city.

[Jack Armstrong]

Damn. Big city. Plus the beautiful suburbs.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, no. But. So they're doing the whole city limits thing. They should only ever give your entire urban area, or whatever you call it. We.

[Jack Armstrong]

Metro area.

[Joe Getty]

Metro area. We call it market size and radio because that's what matters. What's within the city limits makes no difference whatsoever. The Metro area is 22 million.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Whoa.

[Jack Armstrong]

Mind boggling. Yeah. So this is funny. A number of times through years we've been talking about polling and people say I've never been polled. I have been several times, mostly because if they ask, I say yes to the significant polling organizations. And the good folks at Emerson University Polling have reached out to me and I just clicked that yes. I would answer their poll. They do it via text these days because it's practically impossible to get somebody to pick up phone call. And I'm stuck on the first question.

[Joe Getty]

Like, you can't answer it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know how to answer it, and I need help. I need counsel. Question number one. Would you say things in the United States today are generally headed in the right direction or the wrong track?

[Joe Getty]

You know, it's funny. I've always wondered about that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Some are like, super great, some are ultra disasters.

[Joe Getty]

And where do you. So anytime you go wrong track. Right track with anything, whether it's your marriage, your weight, your kids. What's my starting point? Is my starting point from birth? Is my starting point from. You know, it's when I'd say compared to November of last year, right direction. But Overall, starting in January 4, 1776.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think wrong direction sociologically, people's happiness, education.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I.

[Jack Armstrong]

Economically.

[Joe Getty]

What's my favorite saying? Name one thing that's getting better. I always say I can't think of anything. So I'm a wrong direction. But probably for different reasons than a lot of people would answer with Trump. Of course. Everything's going the wrong direction, everybody.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's the thing. I don't want to be.

[Joe Getty]

I don't want my.

[Jack Armstrong]

My check mark to be interpreted in that way. I'm agonizing over this.

[Joe Getty]

I'm. I'm a wrong direction. I, you know, maybe I'm a pessimist, but.

[Jack Armstrong]

How would you.

[Joe Getty]

How would you. How would you claim the United States is not going in the wrong direction as opposed to the right direction?

[Jack Armstrong]

Honestly? Thank you for asking, doctor. It all goes back to my childhood. Oh, it's because I am. I Am so adamant, dedicated, serious about the whole woke mind virus, decay of American education thing. The idea of indoctrinating our young people to despise their own country. I am so completely consumed by that fight. And it's starting to go in the right direction thanks in large part to Donald James, who has been able to implement what a lot of us have been yelling about for a long time. So I'm very encouraged on that front. Although to quote Churchill for the millionth time, it's not the beginning of the end. It might be the end of the beginning, but, you know, and that's perfectly.

[Joe Getty]

Reasonable to look at it that way. But if I wanted to make the argument wrong direction on national debt and neither party even pretends to care anymore.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nope, you win. Long track.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, I was going to add a couple more to that, but I think I could just stop there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you, you, you had me at that. Yeah. Wow. Okay, well, I'll plunge on and if anything else interesting comes up, I will let you know. But first, hey, we're probably worth pointing.

[Joe Getty]

Out that the average person who answers polls does not put 1/1,000th of that much thought into their answer.

[Jack Armstrong]

They're lazy bastards. Wrong track. Got it. All right, let's take a fun look back at the week that was. It's cow clips of the week. And now clips. Chicago is a hellhole right now. The White House sticking to its plans after a violent Labor Day weekend in.

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I refuse to play a reality game show with Donald Trump again.

[Jack Armstrong]

No federal troops in the city of Chicago. A new world order is forming. The leaders of China, India and Russia.

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Russia.

[Jack Armstrong]

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Do you accept the fact that a million Americans died from COVID I don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

Know how many died. You've sat in that chair for how long? 20, 25 years While the chronic disease in our children went up to 76%. And you said nothing? A window is open to the residents upstairs and somebody is throwing a big bag out the window. Have you seen this?

[Joe Getty]

If something happens that's really bad, maybe I'll have to just blame AI.

[Jack Armstrong]

We all know that it was his administration throwing a bag full of the Epstein files out of the window at the orders of the Pope and the Jew, Right?

[Joe Getty]

But it's really A Democrat hoax.

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[Joe Getty]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Name is Zoran Mandani.

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[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God.

[Jack Armstrong]

White male covered in mud and underwear. Ozzy Osbourne, who just died, although he was all over the TV for hundreds of years with his idiocy and nonsense. He just wanted to sniff my feet.

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And I didn't feel comfortable with that. Clips of the week.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't want to be seen as being critical of victims of sexual abuse. Exactly. But that press conference by the gals on the Capitol steps talking about the Epstein deal had a couple of very, like, uncomfortable minutes. Moments like that one. That we are. We will at some point in the future, I guess, compile confidentially a list. Okay. Because people are talking about a list of the abusers of people who were regular in the Epstein world. What does that even mean? I mean, the guy knew everybody.

[Joe Getty]

Well, why are you holding it back if you have.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, right, that's another one. And. And if it is a guy like, you know, Alan Dershowitz or something, he says, yeah, I was part of that social circle. I had no idea he was sexing up young girls. And the minute I found out, I disassociated myself from him. So what do you mean a list of people who are regulars in that world? We're talking about victimizers of child sex. It's just exhausting.

[Joe Getty]

And then at the beginning there, that stuff with China and Russia meeting earlier this week. If you combine our national debt with the changing world order, man, I don't want to be, you know, a pessimist. I mean, those. Those are two.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

I'm Debbie Downer. I am Debbie Downer. I'll shut up now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nobody wants a realist.

[Joe Getty]

Nobody wants us on a.

[Jack Armstrong]

Completely out of style.

[Joe Getty]

But you don't have to be a realist on a Friday. You can be a realist the other days of the week. You don't have to face all the biggest problems in your life on the weekend. Always. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

When do you start being a realist again? Like Sunday evening?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, well, we all do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe after dinner. What's that called?

[Joe Getty]

The Sunday Scaries?

[Jack Armstrong]

Sunday Scaries. Well, it's called that by people who say that sort of thing. I would never let those words pass my lips other than to mock them.

[Joe Getty]

But that is a feeling. I remember saying that to my dad when I was young. God, when Sunday night comes, I just look at the week and then he said, I've been doing that my whole life.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah. Yep.

[Joe Getty]

It's just part of the deal, man. Jerry Seinfeld's bit about the weekend is so dang true and always has been. Friday you get off work and it seems the weekend seems like it's a year long. It seems like summer vacation when you're a kid and even on Saturday you feel like you got so much time to do whatever you want. Then Sunday it lands and where did it all go?

[Jack Armstrong]

You hear the clock a ticking hear the clock ticking.

[Joe Getty]

I didn't get done half the things I wanted to do. Fun or productive?

[Jack Armstrong]

Every weekend you're home you get the weekend. Willys. The day off. Depression. Never mind.

[Joe Getty]

It will just play music the rest of the hour. I don't think we should talk about anything. We're only going to do harm. We got to have a Hippocratic oath on the show. First do no harm. And if we feel like we're going to talk about things that make people unhappy, we'll play music.

[Jack Armstrong]

Got this email from Cascade John. He calls himself Just read your national news link about the rabies increase in wild animals. Now picture the Chicoms infecting their robot wolves with rabies. Oh boy. Rabid Chinese robot wolves.

[Joe Getty]

Man, if you didn't see those Chinese.

[Jack Armstrong]

Robot wolves, that's wrong track for sure.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, we got more on the ways to here.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Here's one of your reality checks that we like to do here on the Armstrong and Getty Show. The world as seen through mainstream media versus reality. The news. You take in an RFK Jr. You would assume he's got an approval rating of about 1%. It's 45. According to the latest poll that came out yesterday, RFK Jr. Has a 45% approval rating now. He's 55% disapproved. But 45% is not horrible these days. No, these days you probably. It's about as high as you're going to get in any administration. So you watch the media. You would think nobody likes him. So Powerball is up to $1.7 billion. Thank you, son. And there is a drawing tomorrow night. And I have long been fascinated by the psychology around the whole thing. We've talked about it a whole bunch of times how if it's at 400 million, you don't buy a ticket, but it gets to $1.7 billion and you do buy a ticket. I mean, obviously that makes no that's.

[Jack Armstrong]

Correct logical sense whatsoever, but lots as you. I got to rush out and get a couple of tickets that'll double my chances.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's, it's interesting how that happens. And then there's also the phenomenon of stores that USA Days got a big article about it today. Stores that have sold winning lottery tickets in the past have lines around the block. Again, makes no sense at all whatsoever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, the first one is kind of a semi understandable odd quirk of human behavior. The second one's just stupid. Oh, they've sold two winning tickets in the last 20 years. I'm going to that store.

[Joe Getty]

You're right. I could see me buying a lottery ticket today. And I never buy lottery tickets from some weird. It's, it's a, it's got to be an evolutionary thing. Some weird I'm missing out on an asset thing that gets you. But I'm not going to figure out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, there's just more awareness of it. So you think of it more. So you think, what the hell, I might as well.

[Joe Getty]

If I do, I'll just buy it at whatever place is handy on the way home. Not some place that sold a winning lottery ticket once.

[Jack Armstrong]

That people who do that should not be allowed to vote. No offense if that's you.

[Joe Getty]

According to. According to a Cambridge University study, players tend to choose numbers that have a personal connection, like birthdays of them and their kids. Very cool. Yeah, I mean, you got to choose something. It doesn't make any difference whether you base it on your birthdays or favorite NFL players numbers or whatever. I mean, you're guessing no matter what. So frequent players avoid winning numbers from recent draws, whereas infrequent players choose the birthdays and everything like it. So if you've played numbers before and didn't win, you stay away from the numbers. Okay. Again, that makes no sense.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. I don't think you understand.

[Joe Getty]

Probability combinations for numbers, according to the study, are regularly formed with an eye for aesthetics, and players tend to spread their numbers relatively evenly across the possible range. So you'd have like a single, double. Single double, or something like that just because it looks more even?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, if it's a random collection of numbers from 1 to whatever it is, 50, say. Yeah, I. I've done that because I used to play once in a while, but yeah, I would tend to like, distribute them fairly. I wouldn't have 1 and 2. Even though those two numbers are as likely to be chosen as any other two. Sure.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's like. It's kind of like the whole. If you flip a coin a million times in its head a million times in a row, what's the chance of it being heads or tails on the one millionth of the month time?

[Jack Armstrong]

It's still 50, 50, 50, 50.

[Joe Getty]

So it's kind of like that. It never points out in any of these articles. I'm not exactly sure why that. I think it's true that most people, their lives get worse when they win these big giant pots of money.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you think that's true or is it notability bias? One of my favorite biases in the news media. It's much more interesting when it goes wrong.

[Joe Getty]

So hard for me to imagine most people winning a billion dollars and not having it ruin their lives, where you end up estranged from your kids or your. Your siblings or your friends, whatever. It's just hard to imagine that not happening.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just give me each a million bucks and tell them to go to hell, save the relationship. Wait, a million?

[Joe Getty]

He gave me a million. You want a billion dollars and you gave me a million thanks a hole and flip you what.

[Jack Armstrong]

What would you do?

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

The News agents.

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[Joe Getty]

Joe claims that's a prejudicial term. Joe claims he has some interesting breaking news.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, indeed. They had a big immigration raid on a Hyundai plant in Georgia. And let's see, what's the Official number? Nearly 500 people were arrested at this Hyundai Motor battery plant under construction. Oh, it's under construction in Georgia. It's part of a criminal investigation into employment practices at the site. More than 300 of the arrested were South Korean nationals. According to an official from the country. Those arrested had illegally crossed the border, entered through a visa waiver program that prohibited them from working, or had overstayed their visas. And evidently the South Koreans are a little bit unhappy about this or concerned or something.

[Joe Getty]

But they were here illegally.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. But what's interesting and slightly uncomfortable is that the carmaker had pledged $26 billion in U.S. investments in recent weeks at the behest of the Trump administration.

[Joe Getty]

Wait, Hyundai's a South Korean car, right. Oh, okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

And company.

[Joe Getty]

Interesting. So what kind of deal was being made there?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, see, that's the thing. They obviously brought in a bunch of their own people to get the work done. What was the. I read a really interesting piece about. Oh, I can't remember if it was South Koreans. I think it was a South Korean company that had pledged a huge investment in the United States in the Phoenix area, I want to say. And they ran into enormous cultural problems with trying to manage the construction and running of the facility because of the difference in norms between South Korea and workers and how they approach work and rest and their rights and their time off and the rest of it. And they were, it was, it was breaking down because they would bring in South Korean managers who could not relate at all to the American workers and couldn't find out why. They couldn't figure out why they weren't working like South Koreans.

[Joe Getty]

But this happens occasionally, and I've always wondered how exactly it comes together. So where a specific nationality ends up in large numbers with some new business or some business a particular part of the country. And they must be working out something at the top level of the business. And is it. I'll use this example. When I was young in western Kansas, a. What was the business that opened up? I don't remember what it was. Rendering plant, something like it. Some unpleasant manual labor work opened up in this tiny little town in western Kansas and it was all Vietnamese workers. Now, this is a part of the country where there were lots of illegal Mexicans. But all of a sudden, for this plan, it was all people from Vietnam. So it had to be. They had to work out something. Right. The business must have worked out something with Vietnam or I don't know how.

[Jack Armstrong]

Else that would happen.

[Joe Getty]

And I've seen this happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

Clearly something is going on. Right.

[Joe Getty]

And I've seen this happen with like Russians or in this case here is South Koreans or whatever. So some deal is made. And part of it might be, well, we need to have people of one language is our only shot at making this work. So we can have managers who speak Vietnamese, not Vietnamese, and Spanish and Russian and, you know, whatever else, just randomly.

[Jack Armstrong]

And in this case, I could picture him saying, and we're going to bring in the people who built our last three plants because they know what they're doing. Yeah. That's what we can do it in half the time and half the expense if we do that. Here's an interesting nugget. The raid and arrests come after months of tense negotiations between the US And South Korea over tariffs and investment.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. And this is the hiring end of illegal immigration that we've always been soft on. And the Republican Party doesn't want to deal with this. You could. You could snuff out illegals working in hotels and restaurants, all kinds. Really easy if you went after the businesses. But there's never been much political will do that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I wonder, and I'm just wondering. I don't have any specific information. It's just circumstantial. But. But I wonder if there was a wink and a nod from the Trump administration about building this giant new investment in Georgia. But then when the tariff negotiations got a little ugly, forget it. Then there was a little hardball being played.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Pushback pitch. I'm not saying that's good foreign policy or economic policy, but it could be what was happening.

[Joe Getty]

Speaking of Russians, So I mentioned part of this earlier. European countries got together yesterday. McCrone came out of the meeting and said, There are 26 European countries that have pledged troops, boots on the ground for Ukraine as a, you know, a. A trigger mechanism. Basically, it's a. And Putin came out and said, any European troops, any NATO troops in Ukraine, I will consider legitimate targets. That's some pretty hard ball right there. I mean, I don't know where this is gonna go. Um. Cause either you back down to that or you don't. And. And then. Then. And you're hoping, assuming that he'll back down, no way he's gonna fire on French and British troops and start a war with NATO. But, I mean, that's. I don't know why this hasn't gotten more news in the last 24 hours. Seems like a big deal to me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I would agree. I. I don't think if. If he says, yeah, well, then I'll shoot at you and you say, okay, never mind. That is a. That is a gesture that will be heard throughout history. It will echo through history.

[Joe Getty]

Also, Putin said he's willing to meet with Zelensky one on one, but only in Moscow. To which Zelensky said, what, are you kidding? And I didn't like the way Peter Doocy put it on Fox last night. He said, zelensky. Now, the hold up to having a meeting between Putin and Zelensky, as he says he will not meet in Moscow. Well, of course he's not going to. The guy has spent every day of the last three years, actually, longer than that, trying to kill him. What's he going to show up in Moscow? He would be arrested as a. An illegitimate. At the least, he'd be arrested as an illegitimate president and a Nazi, if not just snuffed right there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, right. And. Oh, for gosh sake. Sorry, my computer's doing something weird. So they did a very poor job, just threw it in as an afterthought of translating Zelensky, saying, yeah, he's. He said we can have the meeting in Moscow to make sure the meeting doesn't take place, because he knows I can't do that.

[Joe Getty]

Right, Right, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

But obviously, that's the key.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, of course.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hitler invited FDR to the bunker. Why don't you come over here, we'll talk.

[Joe Getty]

Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Huh? All right. So, Jack, I know you love New York City. I do. I. I really like New York. I don't love it. Quite like you do, but I don't know it as well as you do. Have you taken one of the rat tours?

[Joe Getty]

I have not. I've heard of them before though.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is the hot new thing, the rat tourism industry. And it's funny, just hear that phrase. It's not clear to me whether you have like rats lugging sewer cases or going on vac or, or what, but.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, it's four rats. It's okay, I get it.

[Jack Armstrong]

The rat tourism industry marketed is ideal if you'd like to dig beneath the surface while traveling. How many times can you go to the damn Empire State Building after all right, this is a new twist.

[Joe Getty]

God. I took my son up there when we were there a couple months ago. He enjoyed that so much. We went at night. I had never, I'd never been at night before. Wow, what a view that is from up there. Holy crap.

[Jack Armstrong]

I went to the top of the Sears Tower in Chicago a handful of times at night with friends. We would just be in Chicago and think that'd be fun. Often fue the grape and, or the leaf and, and that's. It's pretty spectacular at night. Yeah. And. And New York has such an amazing skyline. Anyway, multiple tours.

[Joe Getty]

That's the tower. Yeah, that's the tower that now has the glass that you, you can, it's all glass and you can lean up against it and then it like falls forward so you're kind of laying out over the city street. I didn't do that. That looked horrifying to me. You're leaning up against glass and then it just like not, not real steep, but enough that you're like leaning out over the street looking like you're falling.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that, that would. Weird.

[Joe Getty]

No, I'm not doing that.

[Jack Armstrong]

No. And you know, it's funny, the London Eye, which is not a Ferris wheel, it is a cantilevered something or other. But I was afraid in London I would freak out because I got a thing about heights and precipices and stuff. Stuff on the London Eye. But no, it's just pure. Feels like joy and wonder.

[Joe Getty]

Feels like you're in a room or something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Like somebody described it as the size of a train car, which is a slight exaggeration. But yeah, it's as secure as can be. And just the views. Breathtaking. Anyway, speaking of breathtaking views, multiple tours now lead visitors to rat infested hotspots. With tickets going as much as $50 a pop. One, two and a half hour tour takes visitors through grimy Lower Manhattan. Five star reviews online saw lots of rats. Big juicy rats. Really good rat tour. Highly recommend.

[Joe Getty]

You know what? They promised I'd see rats. They did not lie. What did I get out of that?

[Jack Armstrong]

I. I got to admit, I have a grim fascination with. With big urban rats.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, God.

[Jack Armstrong]

Speaking of my youth in Chicago, I saw rats one time in Chicago that I swear to God. God were the size of tabby cats. I mean, they were impressive. They were. If they. Somebody told me, look, raccoons. I just said, oh. But no, they were rats with their bald tails and their gleaming eyes and their teeth that bite. Ew. Kenny Bulwark, who's the founder of a viral tick tock series called Rat Talk, heads up another tour. The rat tour is the new trendy thing, he says.

[Joe Getty]

Is it?

[Jack Armstrong]

He actually moved to New York from Missouri in 2019, and he grew frustrated. Frustrated by the lack of anybody giving a damn in the city. So he began live streaming the vermin problem to get attention for it. The followers came quickly, and soon he began charging for tours and selling merchandise. That's the most American thing I've ever heard.

[Joe Getty]

It really is. I love that.

[Jack Armstrong]

So he. He arms himself with a reflective vest, peppermint spray to repel the rats, and a headlamp to spotlight them in the dark.

[Joe Getty]

And if that's what rats are like in the year 2025, with all the modern traps, poisons, city restrictions, you know, you got to get to be up to code with your restaurants and building and stuff like that. If the rats are still like that, imagine what it was like in, like 1925, 100 years ago.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

God, it must have just been incredible.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Although they make the point that the city infrastructure, like the subway tunnels and other things, are old and a little crumbly, and there are a million nooks and crannies for rats to hide in. And so nobody even knows what the population is. It's in the millions, and it's just. It's a total eradication. Has been deemed impossible by most rat experts because the rodents reproduce too quickly and thrive on the abundant food and shelter. They've tried everything they can think of.

[Joe Getty]

I think he.

[Jack Armstrong]

Although now the big push is rat birth control, getting them to put on the condoms is tough.

[Joe Getty]

This thing, I can't get the package open. Ruins the sensation. Okay, we will finish strong.

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[Jack Armstrong]

I read that Uber Eats is now offering deliveries from Best Buy. Yeah, it's perfect if you want to do a Little shopping in 2006. Now instead of a few french fries.

[Joe Getty]

Your driver takes a bite of your HDMI cable. So is Best Buy seen as like old timey? I didn't know that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think their heyday has passed them. But I I've been in the Best Buy once a month, last several months.

[Joe Getty]

If I need a quarter. I go there fairly regularly. Me and for stuff to me and my kids. But I did see a delivery thing the other day. I didn't watch the whole story, but I saw the tease of a drone delivering a Chipotle meal. Like their burritos and chips and salsa dropped the bag and it floated down to where they were or something. I still can't imagine how that's going to work, but maybe we'll talk about that next week. What I wanted to talk about is Nike's new slogan. So they've had the same slogan since the late 80s. That's a very long time, almost 40 years. It's been just do it. But it's been pretty successful. They are in a hot competition with all the other shoemakers to have the most popular show shoe among kids. And now they've changed their slogan. They're still going to have Just do it, but they're also have a big new ad campaign emphasizing why do it? And according, according to Nike's chief marketing officer Nicole Graham, explains that young athletes today face an intense pressure cooker of comparison. Trying to be perfect, fear of failing and fear of even trying in many cases. So we decided to come up with why do it? Why should you even try to do something? Also, they said that it the ad campaign combats cringe culture where earnest effort is often seen as uncool.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know what? I like that. I like that. Well, I like mocking somebody for trying. Look at that fat guy running who's he kidding? That's. That's just rotten.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I like trying to turn the tide on that. The fact that the tide needs to be turned is disturbing. It's so commonplace. The whole. It's uncool to be seen trying. Really.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's awful. What have we become?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. Where does. How does that develop? And often that is because I've done this myself with various things. Often it's a. I'm worried about. I'm not going to do very well if I try. So I'll pretend it's uncool to try.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, Right. Yeah, I. Gosh, how many times did I talk to my kids about that? It's okay to be bad at something. In fact, it's necessary. Embrace it. It's. It's fine. You got to get through it. We all do it. Don't be embarrassed. Give it a try.

[Joe Getty]

It's terrible to me that they need to have the slogan, why do it?

[Jack Armstrong]

But speaking of terrible, as soon as you said it was a woman who was the chief marketing officer, I thought, oh, and I don't think it's sexism. It's because every single one of the recent, like, woke horrible missteps in marketing and PR has been just a gal at the helm. But the. Well, that's. Women are much more likely to be, you know, far lefties than men. So I just think it's a matter of numbers. Obviously, there are plenty of brilliant conservative women in the world, you know, and.

[Joe Getty]

I'll have to see the ads. If they're crafted kind of the way. The way you're thinking, I could. I could end up really liking this as a message.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I love the spirit of it, the way it's described.

[Joe Getty]

The athletes that will be involved in the ads include Sequan Barkley, who ran for over 2,000 yards last year. LeBron James. Caitlin Clark, who announced last night she's out for the season. She will not come back this year from her injury.

[Jack Armstrong]

So, boy, the rest of the season. So that's another week or six months or something I have.

[Joe Getty]

Or the season's over and they had their championship last night and we don't know it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? Yeah, I don't.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sorry. That's very dismissive.

[Jack Armstrong]

But see, that was sexism and I resent it. Hey, kids, it's that time again with Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap things up for the day. There he is, our technical director, Michael Angelo. Michael, lead us off with your final thought. I'm just looking over my list here.

[Joe Getty]

To start the NFL season.

[Jack Armstrong]

I want to make sure I got.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Fence, I've got a foam finger, and I've got my NFL Copyright Enforcement 800 number I always keep at, you know, just in case.

[Joe Getty]

Excellent idea.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's good. I think I'm set for the season.

[Joe Getty]

There you go.

[Jack Armstrong]

Katie Green is off. We'll be back soonish. Jack has a final thought for us.

[Joe Getty]

So I'm in newish neighborhood. I've been there a year. But they're having their yearly, I guess, cul de sac neighborly barbecue at five o' clock this afternoon. And I'm actually gonna go, me and my kids, with all my neighbors and their kids and I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna get to know them and they're gonna get to know me. And I don't do this very often and I think it's a good idea. And here we go.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Take a deep breath and jump to the pool. You'll be glad you did it. I. I am almost every time I do that sort of thing. My final thought is a very silly one, but a friend dropped off like a big bagel sandwich this morning that I ate. Lox, cream cheese, onions, cucumber, which I'd never had. And it was great, but it was about 900 calories and I've spent the rest of the show guzzling coffee and trying to stay awake. Food coma is a thing, man.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, you did like Thanksgiving dinner to start the show.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I didn't think it was going to be that hearty of meal, but by golly, it was. It was delicious. But, oh, so I just want to sleep.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Jack Armstrong]

Can't fire.

[Joe Getty]

Feel my limbs.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey, let's get a final thought. I'm sorry. Armstrong and Yeti wrapping up another grueling four hour workday. So many people. Thanks. So little time. Go To Armstrong and Yeti.com Would you please? We got the hot links. We've got a great swag for you. Drop us a note. Mailbagarmstrongetti.com and a lot of things will.

[Joe Getty]

Happen this weekend and we'll talk about them on Monday. See you then. God bless America.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and gy. It was another busy week on the Armstrong and Giddy show. From murders in Chicago all the way to sniffing that gal's toes. Join us on Monday when we'll do this thing again unless those dang commie robot wolves show up to do us in. The Armstrong and Yeti show the conscience of the nation. Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Ah, come on.

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Take a deep dive into the stories making the news headlines across the world.

[Jack Armstrong]

The news agents.

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We're not just here to tell you what's happening, but why? From me, Emily Maitlis.

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And me, John Sopel with Global's award.

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