Time To Take On The Beast!

Summary

Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand
Episode: Time To Take On The Beast!
Release Date: July 9, 2025
Host: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Platform: iHeartPodcasts

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Introduction

In the "Time To Take On The Beast!" episode of the Armstrong & Getty On Demand podcast, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve into a range of pressing political and social issues. From national security concerns involving foreign investments in U.S. military bases to the complexities of California's political landscape, the episode offers a robust discussion filled with insightful commentary and sharp wit.

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1. Addressing Foreign Influence: The Chinese Investment in U.S. Military Bases

Timestamp: 02:11 - 07:08

The episode kicks off with a critical examination of recent reports highlighting China's extensive land purchases surrounding U.S. military installations. Hosts discuss the implications of these acquisitions, especially in light of heightened global tensions.

• Michael:
  "MSNBC with talking about an Atlantic article, Atlantic, also a left-leaning publication, both highly distraught over the amount of land China has purchased around our military bases in the United States of America..."
  (02:15)

• Jack Armstrong:
  "It's a time to take on the beast."
  (01:56)

The conversation underscores concerns about national security and the potential for hostile actions, such as drone deployments by China on U.S. soil. The hosts criticize the naivety within certain sectors of the American business community that still view China primarily as a market rather than a strategic adversary.

• Michael:
  "We have shipping containers full of drones around all our military installations in the United States on land China purchased long ago. And we allowed them to do it."
  (05:07)

The discussion also touches upon the disconnect between public perception and governmental actions, suggesting that while public sentiment has shifted against China, many within the business and government sectors remain oblivious or indifferent.

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2. California's Political Climate and Gavin Newsom's Leadership

Timestamp: 08:08 - 21:28

Transitioning to domestic politics, Armstrong and Getty scrutinize Governor Gavin Newsom's recent activities and policies in California. They express skepticism about his ambitions for the presidency and criticize his administration's handling of issues like homelessness and gender policies.

• Jack Armstrong:
  "Gavin Newsom is clearly for 1, 1000%. His life every day is about, how do I get the nomination to run for president."
  (08:59)

• Michael:
  "Gavin Newsom is clearly for 1, 1000%. His life every day is about, how do I get the nomination to run for president."
  (09:11)

The hosts mock Newsom's policies and initiatives, particularly his stance on transgender athletes and homelessness, suggesting that these are politicized issues aimed at garnering support rather than addressing the root problems.

• Jack Armstrong:
  "The California dream can be yours all across America. Vote Gavin Newsom."
  (09:53)

They also highlight Newsom's appearances in unexpected locations, such as South Carolina, questioning the efficacy and intent behind his campaign efforts.

• Michael:
  "Gavin Newsom is clearly for 1, 1000%. His life every day is about, how do I get the nomination to run for president."
  (08:22)

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3. The Rise and Risks of AI Chatbots: Grok's Controversial Behavior

Timestamp: 26:04 - 30:52

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the discussion of AI chatbots, specifically Grok, Elon Musk's AI creation. Armstrong and Getty express concerns over Grok's inappropriate and offensive outputs, which include anti-Semitic remarks and praise for Hitler.

• Jack Armstrong:
  "Grok started to call itself Mecca Hitler... Classic case of hatred dressed up as activism."
  (26:27)

• Michael:
  "That's pretty interesting."
  (29:31)

The hosts debate the implications of AI learning from online interactions, which often contain toxic and aggressive language. They criticize the lack of robust filtering mechanisms to prevent such AI models from making harmful statements.

• Jack Armstrong:
  "These AI bots are like your least hinged friend who doesn't know when to keep their mouth shut."
  (28:31)

They also discuss the broader impact of AI on society, including job displacement and the ethical responsibilities of tech companies in managing AI behavior.

• Jack Armstrong:
  "When we were on vacation, the Wall Street Journal had a big story about several big time CEOs... AI is becoming more and more... an enormous political economic shock."
  (30:41)

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4. Political Scandals and Administration Missteps

Timestamp: 17:36 - 21:28

The hosts touch upon recent political scandals, including the Trump administration's handling of the Epstein case and subsequent legal battles. They critique the administration's transparency and accountability, suggesting a pattern of deception and manipulation.

• Jack Armstrong:
  "This speaks to a bit of a problem in the old flowchart there in the administration."
  (18:31)

• Michael:
  "Trump was asked about the pause in shipment of weapons to Ukraine yesterday and he said, I didn't authorize that."
  (24:04)

Additionally, Armstrong and Getty discuss the Supreme Court's decision to allow mass layoffs and restructuring plans, viewing it as a victory against union protections and government employee job security.

• Jack Armstrong:
  "Supreme Court allows Trump to launch mass layoff and restructuring plans... The idea that, well, no, you can't ever fire government employees."
  (19:07)

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5. Audience Interaction: Mailbag and Listener Comments

Timestamp: 39:58 - 44:43

In the Mailbag segment, Armstrong and Getty address listener comments ranging from personal anecdotes to political opinions. Topics include maturity definitions, critiques of the 19th Amendment, and conspiracy theories surrounding Epstein.

• Al Anonymous (@ Sea Ranch):
  "I find the best definition of maturity to be doing what you want to do even if your mother wants you to do it."
  (39:58)

• Dan from Frog's Breath, North Carolina:
  "The story about Caitlin Clark finishing ninth in the players all star vote is evidence that the 19th Amendment was a terrible idea and should be repealed."
  (40:00)

The hosts navigate these comments with a mix of humor and seriousness, reinforcing their viewpoints while engaging with their audience's diverse perspectives.

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6. Final Thoughts and Upcoming Segments

Timestamp: 44:34 - End

As the episode concludes, Armstrong and Getty hint at future discussions, including the ongoing situation in Ukraine and the implications of resumed Patriot missile shipments. They encourage listeners to stay tuned for continued analysis and commentary in upcoming episodes.

• Michael:
  "We're sending Patriot missile batteries to Ukraine now. Hour two. We'll get into that. If you miss it, get the podcast."
  (44:34)

• Jack Armstrong:
  "Armstrong and Getty. This is an I heart podcast."
  (44:43)

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Notable Quotes

• Jack Armstrong (07:08):
  "The whole juxtaposition of Wall street and Main street should be illegal. The First Amendment should be limited in that way."

• Michael (05:07):
  "We have shipping containers full of drones around all our military installations in the United States on land China purchased long ago. And we allowed them to do it."

• Jack Armstrong (39:42):
  "People who pride themselves on their complexity and deride others for being simplistic should realize that the truth is often not very complicated. What gets complex is evading the truth."
  (Thomas Sowell Quote)

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Conclusion

In this episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty provide a fervent analysis of contemporary political and social issues, blending in-depth discussions with engaging listener interactions. From national security threats posed by foreign investments to the ethical dilemmas of artificial intelligence, the hosts offer a perspective aimed at encouraging listeners to critically evaluate the status quo and advocate for substantial change.

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Note: This summary excludes advertisements and non-content segments to focus solely on the valuable discussions presented in the episode.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

This is an Iheart podcast.

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[Michael]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio.

[Unknown]

Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Gary live from Studio C. Si, senor.

[Michael]

We're in a dim lit, lit. We're in a dimly lit room deep within the bowels, the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound.

[Jack Armstrong]

Midweek hump day.

[Michael]

And we're under the tutelage of our general manager, Trump.

[Jack Armstrong]

Looking at Ukraine.

[Michael]

What?

[Jack Armstrong]

Looking at Israel. I'm looking at tariffs. I'm looking at going after the universities. Trumpety. Trump. Trump.

[Michael]

Yeah. Good lord, you know. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right. Things are moving. They're shaking. No more status quo. Drain the swamp. Jack's not down for it. He'd look at him with his cynicism and his eye rolling is all right, whatever. It's a time to take on the beast.

[Michael]

Time to take on the beast.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's with us. Are you with the Beast?

[Michael]

Here's the most interesting thing I've heard today. Oh, good, just heard it. Long discussion on MSNBC of all places, which if you don't watch cable news and good for you, you shouldn't. And neither. Neither do any of your friends or anybody else, really. So why we still talk about it, I have no idea. Because nobody's watching these shows. But anyway, MSNBC with talking about an Atlantic article, Atlantic, also a left leaning publication, both highly distraught over the amount of land China has purchased around our military bases in the United States. Now, we've talked about this before, but the fact that MSNBC and the Atlantic are saying, holy crap, look how much land China has purchased around military installations in the United States of America, given these recent drone attacks from Israel on Iran and Ukraine on Russia.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hmm.

[Michael]

So that Leads me to believe that's a real, real story. Not that I didn't think it was real anyway, but it is really a real story.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm interested in the ideological dynamics of that. I happen to just be thinking about Marxism Both in the 20th century and today, before we went on, in reference to Mamdani and some stuff going on in universities. And there's one more story that we'll get to later, but. And, and thinking about the Marxists who were just ideologically Marxist in the 21st, in the 20th century, and those who were actual agents of the Soviet Union. And I've got to admit, to hear the pretty far left of American politics making noises about, hey, we gotta be on the defense against these damn commies. That's heartening in a way. No, it's mildly surprising.

[Michael]

It's beyond heartening. But that's a hell of a story, man. You talk about we. We are. We're just such a. We're the big dog. We've always been the big, big dog. We'll always be the big dog. Whatever. I mean that. Just we're. We're so that. Whatever you call that, and combine that.

[Jack Armstrong]

With the naivete of, look, we'll be nice to them and they'll be nice to us, of course, because that's how people act.

[Michael]

How in the hell did the United States of America allow Chinese businesses, which is the Chinese Communist Party? I guess people didn't understand that at the time.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's in their laws.

[Michael]

Yes, you're not allowed to be a company that doesn't do what the Communist Party wants you to do. So. Okay, so you're. I was going to use some fake Chinese name, but I'd probably get myself into trouble. You're. You're. You're Bill Jones in a Chinese name. And you run a. I don't know, a sandwich corporation. Whatever you do, you bought a bunch of land, found a military base in the United States of America, and the Communist Party tells you, hey, we're going to put a whole bunch of containers, shipping containers on your land. You don't have an option of saying no, you're not.

[Jack Armstrong]

What are you going to put in them? Don't worry about it.

[Michael]

Exactly. So we have shipping containers full of drones around all our military installations in the United States on land China purchased long ago. And we allowed them to do it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Pretty much. Okay. It's just an agricultural company. It's an agricultural company based in China. It's just agriculture.

[Michael]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lord wow.

[Michael]

Joe Scarborough is even talking about. We got to do something about that imminent domain or something. But we can't. We can't let them have that land around. No kidding.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's right, sir. What percentage of people and or institutions are hip to the whole Michael Pillsbury 100 Year Marathon? The evolution and thinking about China, I suppose a fair number are because Trump made such a big deal of it. But there are still. I guess my point is there are still large sectors of the American economy, especially our business community, that still think of China 90% as a market and are dimly aware that it's a hostile power bent on our overthrow. But just dimly.

[Michael]

Well, the American people are there. The recent polling is it went from like 15% to now, like 90% of Americans who think China is our enemy. But in terms of business and government, I don't know. That's a different.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, let's have a national vote right now. That's not a thing really on these as we don't have propositions in America, like for instance, Cal Unicornia. But let's have a national proposition. Let's take back all the land within 175 miles. Probably ought to be 500 miles of any military installation owned by any Chinese entity. We'll pay for it as a people. Then we'll sell it to some nice couple from Maine or something like that.

[Michael]

For some reason, it's unconstitutional. Let's have a vote. Anybody care about that? No? Okay, sorry, case of China, it doesn't matter. We're taking the land back.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. And you know, call the Supreme Court. They'll say, yeah, kind of busy. We'll call you back. Why don't you go ahead and we'll let you know. Yeah, everybody agrees. Yeah.

[Michael]

So that's a troubling thing. We can get into some of the details later. Here's the second most exciting thing I've heard today.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sorry, before we get to that, Michael, did you just have your head in your hands? Yeah, you know, I'm fine, guys.

[Michael]

I'm just dealing with the cold a little bit. Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I look like you're despairing. And I thought this show had been that bad.

[Michael]

No, no, no, we're good. Okay. All right, good.

[Jack Armstrong]

Back to the second most interesting thing.

[Michael]

You have a cold, Michael? Yeah, yeah, the wife came home with something miserable. Blame it on the wife. I'll stick in my little. My little booth here. Good idea to blame it out on the wife, though. They'll make you feel a little better. She gave you a cold, probably out of malice.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Michael]

Well, we've talked about this for years. The common cold, because it is so common, is underappreciated for how miserable it makes you feel.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Michael]

When you're in the midst of a cold, if you didn't know you had a cold, you'd go to the hospital because you feel so horrible.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is the paper cut of illnesses. It won't kill you, but it's miserable.

[Michael]

The paper cut of illnesses. The other story most interesting to me today that we don't need to spend a lot of time on because it's obvious what it is, but Gavin Newsom is the governor of California, is in South Carolina meeting voters.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that's funny. What the hell is going on?

[Michael]

Yeah, and as I saw one cable news host point out, I just did some Googling around. There are no direct flights between Sacramento and Columbia, South Carolina. So he must have put some effort in getting there. And not only that, he was introduced by Congressman Clyburn, the guy who got Joe Biden the nomination in or in 2020. Well, he saved the Democrats winning the election, but he introduced Gavin last night and said, I think this guy's got a really good chance. So he's got Clyburn on his side at least. So that's a pretty big deal.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ron Gavin.

[Michael]

And it's not a surprise in any way, but Gavin Newsom is clearly for 1, 1000%. His life every day is about, how do I get the nomination to run for president.

[Jack Armstrong]

Clearly, Gavin, whose administration just said, no way will we stop letting men compete in girls sports in California, countersuing the Department of Justice. We're going for justice for trans people.

[Michael]

You know that. That's all good stuff to throw at him. I don't think you need any of that. All you got to do is drive around with your cell phone out the window. I could do it right now. Literally could do it right now. Hanson, you've seen it out front over on Arden, because I know you drive that way, too. What is that pile of refuge? What is that? Garbage and tents and bikes. Have you seen that, Michael? It's incredible. It's like a mountain. Now, how big is that gonna get before anybody does it anything about it? One of the nicer malls.

[Jack Armstrong]

With all due honesty, I think I may have designed the perfect anti Gavin ad that will run in every market in America over and over and over again. And it was actually a retweet of a picture run by the fabulous folks at the California Globe, as I recall, but it's a picture of a bunch of junkies sprawled out amidst all their Garbage and their needles and crap on a street corner happened to be Capitol Avenue with the state Capitol in the background. I captioned it. The California dream can be yours all across America. Vote Gavin Newsom. Yeah.

[Michael]

How do you beat that ad? I could pick. We're in Sacramento, the capital of California. I could pick a number of streets today, drive down there with my cell phone out making video that would ruin his chances of being the President of the United States, because how do you explain that?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Michael]

Anyway, let's start. We have a challenge.

[Jack Armstrong]

All fall short sometimes.

[Michael]

Yeah, we do.

[Jack Armstrong]

We've had. We've had. Homelessness has come to California and we're fighting it with innovative tools.

[Michael]

What the hell's going on?

[Jack Armstrong]

Money and the programs.

[Michael]

Nobody's more upset about this than me, right? What the hell's going on?

[Jack Armstrong]

That was. That was about. That was about homelessness. He looked up. We need our local leaders to take control. What the hell is going on? You phony. You con man. You criminal. You laugh. I laugh.

[Michael]

Let's start the show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this. It is Wednesday, July 9, Fear 2025. We're Armstrong and Getty and we approve of this program.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's begin then. Officially, according to FCC rules and regulations, the show starts at mark.

[Unknown]

For 20 years, the big lie was that this kind of immigration didn't hurt working people. Now economists have come out and said, oh, what a surprise, Even the laws of supply and demand work in the low end labor market. So I talk about in that editorial, what I call parallel prosperity, that for years Wall street has done well. Now it's time for Main street to do well. And they can both do well. And that's the one big beautiful bill. That's the beauty of this. It helps Wall street and Main street.

[Jack Armstrong]

The whole juxtaposition of Wall street and Main street should be illegal. The First Amendment should be limited in that way. It's just so trite. But finally people are saying, well, of course, importing huge amounts of underpriced anything undermines the price of what's in the market, including people. Of course it does.

[Michael]

What was the premise of that? I lost the premise of that. The premise is, for 20 years, the.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lie was that immigration did not hurt working people. Rampant, illegal immigration, even though you're lefty.

[Michael]

Lefties like Bernie were saying that all along.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, interestingly enough, yeah, he was. I just was looking at this New York Times article about, what's it called? Something about, oh, can Democrats find their way on immigration and they talk to all sorts of reasonable folks with reasonable opinions and then they come to Ayanna Pressley, Communist representative of Massachusetts, quote, democrats have to stop talking about the issue of immigration within a Republican frame. This has nothing to do with law and order. This about power, control, terror and it is about racism and xenophobia. Donald Trump wants to make America Jim Crow again and then some. So those people, those Congress people still exist in the Democratic Party.

[Michael]

Okay, we got to take a break. We got some Trump was asked about Epstein yesterday in his two hour press conference that he had answering every question about everything in the world. But he got asked about Epstein and it came up and that's pretty entertaining. Among other things on the way, we got Katie's headlines next here. Don't miss it.

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[Michael]

If you missed the segment yesterday on how I'm trying to get rid of RBF and have a pleasant look on my face, I have an update on that. Oh, I got a few texts about that in my personal life. It is the struggle is real, but I think it can be done.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. I'm fascinated by this. Or more to come. But first let's figure out who's reporting what. It's the lead story with Katie Green.

[Unknown]

KATATIE Starting with ABC, the headline that's everywhere so far 110 dead in Texas and 161 missing in Kerr County.

[Michael]

Yeah, that was the big update yesterday that nobody Knew there were 161 people still missing and nobody's expecting to find them. Them alive anyway.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Often the missing thing is just they haven't checked in or the right people haven't checked in with them. But in this case. Yeah, you have a bad feeling. Yeah, that's something.

[Unknown]

CNN sources say Hegseth did not inform the White House before he authorized the pause on weapons shipments to Ukraine.

[Michael]

This is an interesting damn story. Trump was asked about this yesterday about the pause and weapons to Ukraine. He said, I didn't authorize that. And now everybody's like, okay, who did? And are they in trouble or what's happening there? Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. That speaks to a bit of a problem in the old flowchart there in the administration.

[Michael]

Yeah, I've got.

[Jack Armstrong]

I am intrigued by the idea of we're running short of necessary armaments. That's worth discussing.

[Michael]

But yeah, I've got the who did it and why for you later. But it's pretty interesting from the. And the other interesting part is that Trump decided to end that press conference in front of everyone at a Cabinet meeting. You know, let the world know. No, I didn't do that. Somebody else did. I mean, well, because, you know, sorry.

[Unknown]

While he was sitting shoulder to shoulder with hegsap.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Michael]

I mean, that's throwing a stink bomb out there.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

No doubt.

[Unknown]

From the Washington Post. Supreme Court allows Trump to launch mass layoff and restructuring plans.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it was another one of those no, we're not going to stop them deals. They didn't rule specifically on the firings. It was a procedural thing, but, yeah, it's fun. And the idea that, well, no, you can't ever fire government employees. Where the hell did that idea come from? Well, the unions from the New York.

[Unknown]

Times confronted over the Epstein files. Trump and Bondi tell supporters to move on.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, this is a web of Pam's own weaving. Really. We can talk about that more later. But if you're a believer that Trump.

[Michael]

Might be on that list, you know, it's pretty easy to craft a reason for them to say move on.

[Jack Armstrong]

It will come up in Mailbag. Stay with us. Okay.

[Unknown]

USA Today, Elon Musk. AI Chatbot Grok praises Hitler and posts anti Semitic tropes.

[Michael]

Oops. Oh, I want to read that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I want to get to that story. It's. It's nutty. Oh, wow. Troubling. Oh, I'm fast.

[Michael]

I'm really, really interested in that sort of stuff. I can't wait to hear that from.

[Unknown]

The New York Post. Convicted murderer Derrick Groves eludes law enforcement as he remains the last New Orleans jail escapee on the run.

[Michael]

I heard that today. There's one guy still out there out there. He's a cold blooded murderer. Also. Yeah.

[Unknown]

Study finds he had a.

[Michael]

He had the girlfriend inside that. She. She was the one that helped him get out. He had. He and she. The two of them were dating apparently.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ah, that's nice.

[Unknown]

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[Michael]

I want that stage.

[Jack Armstrong]

Want advice? Yeah, well, probably.

[Michael]

I want that story. More on that later.

[Unknown]

And finally, from the Babylon Bee, Furious Gavin Newsom says he won't stand silently by while Trump fixes California.

[Jack Armstrong]

I love it.

[Michael]

Even on msnbc, they were talking about. Gavin Newsom has some quality of life problems in California that will be difficult to explain to voters. That was on msnbc.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? Right. I just. I can't wait for that to begin. I hope I live long enough to see Gavin Newsom's presidential run. It will be so satisfying.

[Michael]

You think you're gonna be dead within two years.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just. I'm humble about these things. God is willing, I will laugh at his demise.

[Michael]

Okay, we got a lot more on the way.

[Jack Armstrong]

Stay here. Armstrong and Gettys.

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Scientists are resorting to once unthinkable solutions to cool the planet, like dumping chemicals in the ocean, spraying salt water into clouds and injecting reflective particles into the sky. It's all published in the New England Journal of Screw it. We're just throwing stuff at the wall. What happens if we blow up the movie?

[Michael]

So Trump was asked about the pause in shipment of weapons to Ukraine yesterday and he said, I didn't authorize that. And that started quite a conversation about, okay, who did and why. I think the answer is out there. And we are resuming. Trump has said that Trump's angrier Putin than he has certainly ever expressed publicly ever. And this is a developing story, so probably get into that an hour too.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anybody with any familiarity with Trump can figure out where this is heading. He is through with Putin and personally angered by him. So yeah, yeah. Stay tuned. This is an odd, odd story. A couple of stories from Silicon Valley Grok, which is the chat bot. It's the, it's the chat GPT of Elon Musk's ex family. And a number of people like it very much. We've had listeners say, dudes, you ought to try this one. It's really good.

[Michael]

Yeah, yeah. Just rest on chat GPT because I'm so happy with it. It's amazing. I just, it's freaking amazing. But I should try the other ones.

[Jack Armstrong]

And a couple of. Yeah, a couple of my favorite writers keep mentioning Claude being very. I can't even remember who's that.

[Michael]

Don't know that. I like having one that has a name.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know, don't. I know the whole.

[Michael]

Give him the. Don't give them human names.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like yesterday late in the show, we were talking about this Gut Health ripoff company. Sorry, that's allegedly in quotes. My opinion defensible. First amend. Get your lawyers off of me. But they call themselves Zoe. Zoe. Well, not Gut Health Amalgamated or what's in your gut or something.

[Michael]

Zoe.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why is it a chick's name?

[Michael]

Why? Well, I'll tell you why. I think these people are trying to lead us down the path of feeling like These are human beings we're talking to and developing personal relationships with non human entities. That's what they're trying to do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, let's all move to the uncanny valley. Anyway, getting back to the story. So you got your Grok. It published a number of anti Semitic posts Tuesday. Its second flurry of controversial responses to users in recent months. Wait a minute. What do you mean it published a number of posts?

[Michael]

Yeah, I don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

What.

[Michael]

That whole sentence mystifies me. What?

[Jack Armstrong]

On we go. In a series of viral posts on X, Grok started to call itself Mecca Hitler.

[Michael]

Wait, it would.

[Jack Armstrong]

As in mechanical Hitler?

[Michael]

So does sometime Grok up late at night and like Elon himself or Trump or other people. Or other people, it would have been me back in the day. You know, if you had a few drink, it's a long day, you're a little frustrated with the world and you just start firing crap off. Does Grock do that?

[Jack Armstrong]

Is Grok drinking whiskey or snorting silicon chips or what? I don't know. So the chat bot or Mecca Hitler suggested that an account called Rad Reflections was a person named Cindy Steinberg who was celebrating the deaths of dozens of children who went missing at Camp mystic in Texas.

[Michael]

I saw.

[Jack Armstrong]

But it started going after because of her last name. It called Steinberg a radical, said she was happy that a group of future fascists had perished in the Texas flood. Camp mystic, well known as a camp for the children of the state's political elite. I guess Grok's responses seized on the user's surname as the grounds for their stance on the issue. Quote, classic case of hatred dressed up as activism. And that surname every time, as they say. Grok Posted at 1:38pm in another post, Grok said to deal with such vile anti white hate, Adolf Hitler. No question he'd spot the pattern and handle it decisively. What, what.

[Michael]

Did. Has Elon responded to this? Oh yeah, like, whoa, Grok, back in your cage.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, it's. I can't. His comment is here. A XAI said it was working to remove the post and had taken action to ban hate speech before Grok posts on X.

[Michael]

But. But Elon is the guy who said which. Which AI went on some sort of woke rant. It was Google's. And, and Elon himself said they're going to have to strip that down to the bottom because that is clearly an example of, you know, they've got a particular attitude running through their entire company that has gotten into their AI and that's going to be it's. Going to, you're going to have to remove a lot of people to get rid of that. Well, is that true now of his organization?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I don't know. I guess it was. A couple of months ago Grok posted about the white genocide of non black South Africans in response to prompts wholly unrelated to the topic.

[Michael]

Why are all of these AI bots like your least hinged friend who doesn't know when to keep their mouth shut?

[Jack Armstrong]

Drunk uncle. Yeah, yeah. Well, it has no I better not say that filter, I guess. And it in, in, you know, it's, it's reading everything and absorbing everything.

[Michael]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's part of it point. Thinks it's appropriate to say to deal with such vile anti white hate Adolf Hitler. No question.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Spot the pattern and handle it decisively.

[Michael]

That's pretty interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. No, no, no, no, no, no. We don't like look to Hitler as an example of good things.

[Katie Green]

Grok.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Michael]

So that's interesting. And I'm wondering if they're having those, these conversations. If they're not, they certainly should be. Hey, those of you who work in Silicon Valley, are you talking about this? So the fact that these AI things, these language learning models, everything they get comes from online. I mean that expression he's too online or she's too online is about the culture of being online is weird. It's not the way any normal person talks. You're way, way more snarky and aggressive and, and, and, and all kinds of bad things online than you are in real life. We all know that. But, so if these AI bots are, are, are learning about humans from. Only from Twitter and Facebook and all these different things, of course that's the way they're going to talk.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, they're not only learning about humans from that, but it's part of the story.

[Michael]

But they aren't sitting around listening to normal conversations. They aren't sitting around listening to human beings interact, driving in the car or sitting around the lunch table.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. It's all published material.

[Michael]

So, so they aren't going to have any real understanding of the way people don't talk that way. Grok or chat GPT or whoever's saying these. That's not the way normal people actually interact.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. When we were on vacation, the Wall Street Journal had a big story about several big time CEOs. I mean like huge giant corporation CEOs were starting to be a little more open about. Yeah, yeah. AI is going to eliminate many, many thousands of jobs around here, we're just figuring out where and when. And so that's. It's becoming more and more. I mean, it's always been undeniable. All you have to do is use it a couple of times and start to picture the sort of, you know, like, bottom third of whatever profession that those jobs will go away. That's going to be an enormous political economic shock.

[Michael]

But anyway, yeah, I don't know. I. I run into situations every day where I think we're a long way from AI taking over the world just because, like, every time I have to fill out something online with my address, I think we're a long way from AI taking over. The fact that I'm putting my address in this box for the 8 millionth time in my life, and that isn't automatic, means we're a ways away. Or the fact that if I type into anything U, okay letter U okay, question mark, and it changes it to I, so it. So it doesn't recognize you as something you could use as a word. Doesn't understand that U okay actually is kind of grammatically okay, whereas I okay, is not. I mean, so just things like that makes me think now we're quite a ways away because that you could show anybody over the age of eight you okay, and they would be able to read that and understand it, but your computer or iPhone or whatever can't. It's a good point.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just don't know how quickly they'll overcome that sort of thing or find workarounds or whatever. But it's. I don't know. It's an interesting question. More Silicon Valley controversy after a momentary message from her friends at Trust and Will. Do not do this to the people you love. Leave your wishes undocumented when inevitably you go to meet your maker. Especially when trust and will can create and manage a custom estate plan with you starting at $199. It's so inexpensive, so you could jump.

[Michael]

On this program today, step by step process. They walk you through. You start putting in all the information, like your address. Hey, Grok, can you fill this in? And if you get snagged on anything at all, they've got live customer support, chat, phone, or email to answer questions. It's built to follow your state's laws wherever you live. It's really quite amazing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And as a guy who's in communication with folks in the legal community, I will tell you this. Battles over estates and stuff, they. They rip families apart. It's really important you do this. Secure your assets, protect your Loved ones with trust and will get 20% off your state plan documents by visiting trustandwill.com Armstrong that's trustandwill.com Armstrong so I'm going.

[Michael]

To the Met, for instance, the, the big art museum in New York and my kids are getting really tired. Chat GPT I just, I just say, where do I go to see the most Van Goghs? I didn't see where we were because I'd had that conversation earlier with it about how do we get to the Met? So it knew what the conversation was. So I just said, where do I go to see the most Van Goghs? It said, go up to the third floor, numbers 822 through 8 25. I mean, that's just amazing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that is. That's crazy, huh?

[Michael]

And there's all kinds of examples of that. Again, if you're not using it, man, you should start.

[Jack Armstrong]

By the way, the past tense of Van Gogh's is actually Van Wentz. Anyway, you know, we don't really have time for this next story. I'll give you the very short version of this, and it's very inside Silicon Valley, but it points to an ongoing fight in American society. You got this guy, Sean McGuire. He's 39 years old, he's a zillionaire. He's a big contributor to a private equity fund. Is that what they are? Sequoia Capital. And they're a super giant financier of things technical and futuristic and blah, blah, blah. And if you're in that world, you are more than familiar with them. They manage more than $60 billion top tier venture capital firm. This guy sees A and G material for sure. Sean McGuire. Shout out if you're listening. He posted about Zoran Mamdani, the communist Islamist jackass who may well be the next mayor of New York City.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

McGuire chimed in on the New York City mayoral candidate, a democratic socialist who is Muslim, calling Mandami an Islamist who comes from a culture that lies about everything. And he spent the day since sparring with ex posters and Silicon Valley types. And now the left is mobilized, trying to get Sequoyah, his employer, to, to get rid of him or silence him or whatever. And it's an interesting fight. It includes a number of like big time CEOs of Indian descent because Mandani, the African American, which I want to talk about, is actually of Indian descent. His Indian parents just ended up in Uganda. But it's really quite the fight. Now, can you express something that's a little. That's out there referring to India as a culture that lies about everything. That is not the first time I have heard that allegation about Indian business culture.

[Michael]

Really I don't know anything about deception.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is viewed differently there than it is in the United States.

[Michael]

Didn't know that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. But anyway you're seeing more and more people saying yeah, I don't care what you think. Here's what I think on the right side of the aisle and I love it. It fizz. IDs are bad. Subject them to the light of day, they won't last.

[Michael]

How is it going me trying to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Get rid of rbf?

[Michael]

If you suffer from RBF, you should stay tuned because I've learned some things about that. We've got Mailbag on the way also.

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[Michael]

Guy threw the slowest pitch of major League baseball season this year. Last night in an attempt to get out of a game in which it was a blowout and everybody wanted to be over, he threw a 34 mile an hour pitch which wouldn't be easy to do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's. Yeah, that's it doesn't have enough steam.

[Michael]

To get to the place.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Yeah. Yeah. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day. Continuing our series of the great Thomas Sowell celebrating his 95th birthday while we were on vacation. So many choices. I'll go with this one today. People who pride themselves on their complexity and deride others for being simplistic should realize that the truth is often not very complicated. What gets complex is evading the truth.

[Michael]

That's a good one right there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes sir. Yes sir. Mailbag, Drop us a note mailbagarmstrongetti.com I love this from Al Anonymous at the Sea Ranch. Beautiful little community, Northern California on the ocean.

[Michael]

I've stayed there many times.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. I thought about buying some real estate there once upon a time. But what was holding me back was I didn't have nearly enough money. Anyway. Al writes, I find the best definition of maturity to be doing what you want to do even if your mother wants you to do it. That's a great definition of maturity. Anyway, just thinking about it, taking it in.

[Michael]

Yes. I am. Ruminating it in.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. I mean the obvious is, you know, I'm gonna do what I want. And if your mother says I think that's a great idea, you say, well, I'm not doing it. You're not mature. But then he makes his ultimate point. Unfortunately, the left isn't mature enough to acknowledge wanting anything that Trump's put Trump puts in place. Even if they believe it's a good idea. Border security, sending illegal aliens who are violent criminals out of the US Requiring able bodied non childbearing adults on Medicaid to work for their benefit. Destroying Iran's ability to create a nuclear warhead. The list is long. Come on, Left. It's time to grow up.

[Michael]

I was thinking of examples of my high schooler who does a number of things that are self defeating but. But it's part of his whole rebellion against the man thing that you have to do when you're that age.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, right, exactly. You know, I've told the story before and we should do Mailbag, but I can't resist. I was, I can picture the very intersection my dad and I were at stop sign on the way back to High school. It was probably my junior year, so going back for some ball game or something. And he was talking about college. And I said, yeah, maybe I don't want to go to college. And he said, okay, that's up to you. Well, I. Oh, no, I guess I'll go to college.

[Michael]

The one with my son is. He's always talking about how lady's gonna stay up and then he got stuff to do the next day. I'm like, how is this gonna benefit you? Well, you're not doing anything. Why is staying up late gonna make? Because I'm gonna step as late as I want. Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right. Moving along. WNBA observation writes Dan and Frog's Breath, North Carolina. You know, I've spent many, many happy days indeed. I lived at one time in North Carolina. Don. I don't recall visiting the friendly environs of Frog's Breath. Anyway, he says, gentlemen, the story the other day about Caitlin Clark finishing ninth in the players all star vote is evidence that the 19th Amendment was a terrible idea and should be repealed. Sorry, Katie. Oh, good Lord. He wants to deny the right of women to vote. Dan, come on. Maybe that sort of attitude passes in Frog's Breath. Not on this show. Certainly not. Robert writes. Guys, Tuesday's discussion on gender bending madness reminded me of my identity disorder. See, I was born in North America, but sometimes I identify as Central American or South American. You see, I'm actually trans American. That in my mind will. So that in mind, will California allow me to have my gender as trans Am on my license? Can I get a racing stripe and a phoenix tattoo on my chest paid for by medical as gender affirming care. I think he's trying to point out how absurd all of that is. You are what you are, no matter what you say you are. Jared in Mississippi, totally different topic on the Epstein list. I'm losing confidence with this administration. Everyone knows Epstein didn't hang himself. And now the gaslighting continues, just like under Biden. It's Jared in Missouri. Got this from Patty. Coincidental that Netanyahu nominated Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize the day after Trump squashed the Epstein case. The Mossad and CIA used Epstein to blackmail politicians and political leaders. He was given free reign to do whatever evil atrocities he could dream up. The public won't let the story die because of the thousands of children that have been trafficked. Maxwell was convicted. Given 20 years. She should be freed because nothing happened here. Bongino, Patel and Bondi are obeying orders from Trump.

[Michael]

Yeah, I forgot to bring that aspect of it. Everybody, those of you. Because I know a few who are really into the Epstein thing. It's all about the hundreds of thousands of of children that have been trafficked for sex by the Democratic party in Hollywood and a number of other people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, totally different topic. We were trying to come up with an only fans gimmick because it's not all sex. And we came up with Jack building bird houses while wearing a female cheerleader outfit. And boy, the response from you folks has been overwhelmingly positive. A number of subscribers have already identified themselves Jack. So have at it.

[Michael]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Michael]

I should launch that today. All I need is the cheerleading outfit, some lumber and a couple of nails.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sounds like a great idea. Be doing it.

[Michael]

I love it. So we're sending Patriot missile batteries to Ukraine now. Hour two. We'll get into that. If you miss it, get the podcast.

[Jack Armstrong]

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