Tiny Organism, Profound Impact

Summary

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Episode: Tiny Organism, Profound Impact
Date: June 9, 2026
Host: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty (with Patrick)
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode mixes lighthearted banter with serious commentary, touching on current events, scientific research, technology updates, and perennial cultural debates. The main thread is a discussion of a landmark study about how tiny organisms and early childhood illnesses can drastically influence one's life trajectory—a topic that gives the episode its title. The crew also dives into recent political happenings, parental tech controls, Middle East geopolitics, and the ever-evolving landscape of American morality.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Trump at Madison Square Garden Incident

Timestamps: 02:15–08:20

• President Trump's appearance at a Knicks game prompts major security measures and mixed fan reactions; surrounding blocks are shut down, and fans endure hours-long lines.
• The hosts debate whether presidents should attend large public events, regardless of political orientation.
  • Quote:

    "If it was anybody, take politics out of it completely… as a fan, I would be thinking, do you really need to come given what this does?" — Jack Armstrong (02:28)

• Discussion on New York’s political climate and its predictable reaction to Trump.
• Celebrity sightings: Mariska Hargitay, Tracy Morgan, Tina Fey, Jalen Brunson, Derek Jeter, Eli Manning, and more; musings about their connections and fan culture.

2. The Science of Birth Order & Early Exposure

Timestamps: 13:29–19:14

• Patrick shares a new study from the Washington Post, based on Danish research: younger siblings have statistically worse outcomes in earnings, education, and mental health, with the youngest faring the worst.
  • The striking factor: exposure to respiratory viruses early in life (often brought home by older siblings) correlates with long-term negative impacts.
  • Quote:

    "The tiniest organisms have a profound impact on a child’s future." — Patrick (14:52)

• The study followed 1.2 million Danish children, tying early illness to diminished achievement decades later.
• Discussion highlights that while these effects are averages, individual results will vary—don’t interpret it deterministically.
• Societal lesson: Get vaccinations; do your best with the circumstances you receive.
  • Quote:

    "It’s what you do with it that matters." — Joe Getty (17:03)

3. Family Dynamics & Birth Order Anecdotes

Timestamps: 17:10–18:58

• Jack Armstrong notes the difference in experience between oldest and youngest siblings, depending on where and when they grow up within the family.
  • Quote:

    "If you’re the oldest, you grew up in the household of the full number of your family for your whole life till you left. Whereas the youngest...was an only child through high school or longer." — Jack Armstrong (17:15)

• Individual children’s personalities and talents differ widely; averages don’t dictate destiny.

4. Middle East Update: Iran, Israel, and Geopolitics

Timestamps: 19:14–32:04

• Ongoing tension in the Strait of Hormuz, ceasefire fragility, and the specter of greater Middle East conflict.
• Trump makes bold claims about an impending Iran deal; hosts express skepticism due to lack of evidence.
  • Quote:

    "Trump said without any evidence that I can see anywhere … that this is gonna be over in a couple of days. They’re not gonna get a nuke and the strait will be open." — Jack Armstrong (24:28)

• Netanyahu’s uncompromising stance on security, with fresh Israeli strikes on Hezbollah.
  • Quote:

    "In the past 24 hours, Iran and Hezbollah tried to impose a new equation on us. This equation is intolerable and unacceptable to me." — Benjamin Netanyahu (26:33)

• Op-Ed mention: US demands more restraint from Israel than from Iran.
• Correspondent letter: Trump’s negotiating style mistakes autocratic or ideologically driven leaders as being susceptible to the logic of business deals.
  • Quote:

    "Some people want dead Jews. Some people want to go down in history as Peter the Great more than they want to, you know, come out financially ahead." — Jack Armstrong (29:12)

• Patrick is deeply discouraged about the region: duplicity by the Tehran regime and ongoing cycle of failed deals.

5. Elon Musk’s Outlandish Lunar Vision

Timestamps: 32:16–34:25

• Elon Musk proposes building power/data centers on the Moon for future AI needs, assuming Earth has fundamental limits on power production.
  • Quote:

    "He could easily end up being the most important person … If he makes us a multi-planetary species, which is his goal." — Jack Armstrong (34:11)

• Hosts express awe and amusement at the scale of Musk’s vision.

6. Apple’s New Parental Controls & The Limits of Tech Solutions

Timestamps: 37:36–43:04

• Apple is introducing advanced, granular parental controls for iPhones, including age-specific restrictions, communication boundaries, and the ability to pause devices.
  • Quote:

    "They walk around with the worst neighborhood on planet earth in their hands in a way that was never possible before." — Joe Getty (37:52)

• Parental struggles: Teenagers are tech-savvy and quick to circumvent even the best tools; ultimately, conversation and trust matter as much as apps or settings.
  • Quote:

    "There’s not like a really, like, silver bullet here that’s going to, like, magically fix this problem for everyone. …I think it’s going to have to be a kind of discussion that parents have with their kids." — Thorin Klosowski, privacy expert (40:56)

• Hosts joke about the futility of trying to beat teenage ingenuity online.
  • Quote:

    "If we could sign an agreement that all you do is look at porn and nothing else, I’m in. …That’s better than a lot of the other stuff that’s out there." — Jack Armstrong (43:37)

7. American Morality Polls & Cultural Change (Previewed)

Timestamps: 35:03–35:39

• Gallup has released updated stats about American views on morally acceptable behaviors—with a preview that changing attitudes on gender and sexuality are especially notable. Discussion tabled for a future segment.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On public event security for presidents:
  “If you waited in line for three hours … that does not exactly set up the mood of the crowd to cheer you.” — Jack Armstrong (04:40)

• On birth order science:
  “Serious illnesses in early childhood can derail brain growth and cast a long shadow on later life.” — Patrick (17:05)

• On East-West negotiating mindsets:
  “Trump seems ...[to] assume [the same rules] with Putin and mullahs...Some people want dead Jews.” — Jack Armstrong (29:12)

• On AI and parental controls:
  “You could go on ChatGPT and say how do I get around the new Apple parental controls as a 13 year old? And it will tell you…” — Jack Armstrong (42:33)

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Additional Segments and Teasers

• Tease: Full Gallup morality poll breakdown to come.
• Ongoing: Deeper look at Lebanon & Hezbollah (teased for later).
• Parental perspective: Jack’s and Joe’s shared anxiety about raising teens in the digital world.

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

• Language: Direct, humorous, and sometimes irreverent; conversational with frequent self-effacement.
• Vibe: Blending current affairs, cultural commentary, personal reflection, and practical wisdom—offering listeners both information and a sense of camaraderie amid a confusing world.
• Useful for: Those interested in the intersection of news, science, family life, and technology; listeners who appreciate sharp, skeptical analysis with a light touch.

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For further exploration, see upcoming episodes for:

• The morality poll deep dive
• Continued Middle East developments
• More on technology and parenting in the digital age

Transcript

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[Michael]

The President has attended major sporting events before as Commander in Chief and he was a courtside regular as a New York businessman. But his presence here tonight and all the security it brings has many fans crying foul.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, they already hate Trump, but I gotta admit, if it was anybody take politics out of it completely. As a fan, I would be thinking, do you really need to come given what this does to. Well, let Ed o' Keefe of CBS News lay out what it was like

[Joe Getty]

for people getting into the game.

[Michael]

While the real action's on the court tonight, hundreds of Secret Service and a thousand NYPD are also suiting up, part of a massive security plan to protect the President, a longtime New York Knicks

[Patrick]

fan, if you are not going to

[Michael]

the game, we are asking you to

[Patrick]

avoid the area around Madison Square Garden.

[Michael]

Tonight a five block perimeter around Madison Square Garden is shut down. Are being asked to show up at least two hours early. The gain comes a day after five people were stabbed in Penn Station just below the Garden. One was seriously injured.

[Joe Getty]

That's its own story. We need to talk about that later.

[Jack Armstrong]

Guy that had stabbed people years ago loose on the street stabbing more people. Anyway, what's your thoughts on that?

[Joe Getty]

Do you, you got, you got a grudge against president showing up to an event you want to go to?

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, because they don't need to be there.

[Patrick]

Well, I'm going to put my fairness hat on. Think about if I was, if I had to deal with all that crap because Biden wanted to make a briefish appearance, say, or Obama.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't think it's politics.

[Joe Getty]

There's no political advantage for Trump being there, is there?

[Patrick]

He's, I think he just wanted to go. He's a lifelong New Yorker, he grew

[Jack Armstrong]

up in New York and he's a Knicks fan. I think that's what it was about.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah.

[Patrick]

I'd probably bitch about it but I wouldn't worry about it that much. Now if I was going to those

[Jack Armstrong]

line, three hour line to get into

[Patrick]

the game, I'm an older man, I might need to have like an empty milk jug point on it. But yeah, yeah, if you were used to going to those viewing parties right outside the Garden which sound like just a great time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah.

[Patrick]

I would resent that some, that they, those were closed down.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the booing might have been.

[Joe Getty]

It's a Democratic city in the same way that la, no matter what happens, as we just saw, is going to vote for a Democrat. New York's kind of that way and so they don't like Trump anyway. And then you waited in line for three hours.

[Jack Armstrong]

That does not exactly set up the mood of the crowd to cheer you

[Joe Getty]

when they were in line for three

[Jack Armstrong]

hours to get in to sit in there. Somewhere between 7,000 and $1 million seat. Yikes.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, it was during the national anthem that they put Trump up on the screen.

[Jack Armstrong]

And Bright star, Is there some cheering?

[Patrick]

Yeah, there's some cheer. I, I would have called it because I was watching it live. 65, 35, 2/3, a third, who cares?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, it doesn't matter. That's a meaningless thing.

[Patrick]

Far from the greatest challenge the Republic is facing. I, at the present moment, I couldn't

[Jack Armstrong]

stop just trying to recognize people in

[Joe Getty]

the front row every time there was a player, a timeout or whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I was wondering, do the, did those people like, had they ever met before? Do they know each other or do you become friends or like now that Chalamet and Spike Lee are high fiving or had they ever met before Nick's thing got out? Got out and. Or been still. Or how about Rahm Emanuel and Larry David?

[Joe Getty]

That was a good pairing right there.

[Jack Armstrong]

I, I don't know if they'd ever met before, but man, they're high fiving each other.

[Patrick]

And so I, I really, full disclosure, I, I'm just not an NBA fan at this point in my life. And I didn't watch the game, but I was caught. I was intrigued by the fact that what is her name, the actress? She was on one of the police procedures for years. Margaret Haggerty or what do you know the woman I'm talking about? Michael, Right. What the hell's her name?

[Unknown Celebrity Guest]

Is it Marisha or. No, no, no, I know who you're talking about.

[Joe Getty]

I'm going to assume it's a celebrity.

[Patrick]

Yeah, it's a woman.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Patrick]

She was like. Well, I just said she was on a police procedural that was a super big hit for a long time. Margaret. Anyway, she was in the front row and I'm like, really? Really?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Patrick]

She's starring in a new show, I think on Broadway. It's revival or something. That's it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Patrick]

Mariska Hargitay. That's a billboard. They bought a billboard for the show there at Courtside.

[Joe Getty]

That's a good.

[Patrick]

There's Marissa Hargaday. She's starring in the new revival of Whatever the hell.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's like buying an ad Brigadoon. Yeah, mostly it's super rich people. So I'm assuming that Tracy Morgan, who won $90 million because that Walmart truck hit him and almost killed him. So he's among the super rich and he's at all the Knicks games. He was sitting in the front row with Tina Fey next to him.

[Joe Getty]

I wonder if he went and come, you know, said I'll you come to

[Jack Armstrong]

the game with me.

[Joe Getty]

They started together back on 30 Rock together, worked Saturday Night Live.

[Patrick]

Truly funny show.

[Jack Armstrong]

The, the, the Rama Manual. Larry David, Robert Kraft, three people in a row. Like, I don't know if they're friends or if they met for the first time there at the. Oh, hey, you know, be just kind of a weird oh hey moment. Just like somebody you've seen on oh, hey, you're the guy that owns the Patriots. Oh, you're the guy that might be the next president need to shake hands.

[Patrick]

I would wait three hours in line to overhear their conversation.

[Jack Armstrong]

No kidding.

[Patrick]

That's an interesting grouping.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, all the way around. It was that way everywhere, man.

[Joe Getty]

The coolest one though was I become.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm kind of a Jalen Brunson fanboy.

[Joe Getty]

Even though I'm rooting for the Spurs. Got into him last year. He is some super stud performer.

[Jack Armstrong]

But anyway, he had some amazing clutch

[Joe Getty]

plays last night with the crowd going crazy and everything like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

And they go over to also in the front row, Derek Jeter sitting with Eli Manning, high fiving.

[Joe Getty]

I thought there is some guys that understand what it's like to be in front of that crowd and perform well right under pressure.

[Patrick]

Yeah, that was a cool group right there. Coming up, your birth order affects your future, but not for the reason you think. Jack. How do I always respond to a headline like that?

[Jack Armstrong]

How do you know what I think?

[Patrick]

But really interesting science about birth order. Holy cats.

[Jack Armstrong]

You think I.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, well, I'll have to hear this.

[Patrick]

Well, are you a scientist? Are you. Answer the question. I'm not answering. Folks. I could be in Congress and do one of those hearings.

[Jack Armstrong]

Look, he's not. Yeah, I know. Exactly.

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[Patrick]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then you yell, I reclaim my time. And nobody knows what that means. So you stop talking

[Patrick]

to run a republic.

[Jack Armstrong]

Folks, I had one other thing I

[Joe Getty]

wanted to tease before we got going.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, Apple. The.

[Joe Getty]

The.

[Jack Armstrong]

The Apple update. Siri is completely different now. I haven't tried it yet, but the

[Joe Getty]

new AI series, some people are saying it's. That's really fantastic.

[Jack Armstrong]

But more important than that, they announced a whole bunch of new parental controls that I'm super into.

[Joe Getty]

As a guy who's got a couple of teen boys with iPhones that will. Will update you on that whole thing too. And we got to get into the Iran war at some point. Trump making some pretty big claims today that it could be over in a matter of days. I feel like I've heard this a few times. Not exactly sure what he's trying to accomplish with those promises at this point

[Patrick]

and who he's putting pressure on most. Again, echoes of the Ukraine, Russia thing. Who's the roadblock to an agreement here again?

[Jack Armstrong]

Donald J.

[Patrick]

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[Joe Getty]

Besides Trump, New York City Mayor Zorin Mamdani was also at the game. The guy in charge of the Kiss cam was like should I could be fun I don't know. I didn't get that joke.

[Patrick]

I didn't get it either, Michael.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, what's the. What's the joke there, Michael?

[Unknown Celebrity Guest]

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[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I still don't understand that. What to put. Well, it doesn't matter,

[Patrick]

but the communist

[Jack Armstrong]

cam on him spent a thousand dollars

[Joe Getty]

for standing room only tickets to try to be a regular working class guy.

[Patrick]

I guess.

[Joe Getty]

I guess.

[Patrick]

All right, Jack, you are the oldest sibling in your family, correct?

[Joe Getty]

I am.

[Patrick]

I am a three. I am a middle child. The middle of three.

[Joe Getty]

And I must say, I've never put

[Jack Armstrong]

much stock in birth order.

[Patrick]

No, no, I. You know, I don't want to jump to the conclusion, but. Well, I'll. I'll hold up. So, really interesting coverage in the Washington Post of some new science about birth order. They mentioned that younger siblings enjoy real advantages in life. Generally, the parents have more money, no doubt, more experience as parents. Older siblings can serve as role models, mentors, productive rivals. You know, you play basketball against your older brother, you're going to become a better basketball player. The ranks of elite athletes are filled with many more younger siblings than older brothers and sisters. There are a lot of reasons why second borns should do better, said this one economics professor, Brigham Young. But being born first is a far better bet in life, the data shows. A landmark study shows that younger siblings fare worse than firstborns on lifetime earnings, educational achievement, mental health, and, for women, teen pregnancy. The later the birth order, the worse the stats get. The youngest siblings get measurably less schooling than the firstborn on average. But that only explained half of the difference. The other half seems to be germs. They followed 1.2 million Danish children born since 1980 into adulthood. The study found that the tiniest organisms have a profound impact on a child's future. Exposure to respiratory viruses before a baby's first birthday, when their immune systems are immature, and before most childhood vaccinations consistently predicted reduced earnings, education and health decades later.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whoa.

[Patrick]

Illness, serious respiratory illness.

[Jack Armstrong]

And you're more likely to get them if you're the third child or just

[Patrick]

not the first, because the first one is off at school or daycare, whatever, bringing bugs home. That doesn't happen to the firstborn kid. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

This is gonna come up at Thanksgiving. My younger brother. Thanks for bringing all those germs home.

[Patrick]

Yeah, way to go, germy. Boy, you know, I could get into the details of this, but they said the data was absolutely clear. Earnings, education, mental health outcomes all declined as community disease exposure rose. Now these are averages across populations. So the adult incomes fell by nearly 1 1%. High school and college graduation dropped by about half a percent. Psychiatric clinic visits rise by about 6% above the baseline rate, blah, blah, blah. And they say those numbers might appear trivial, but they are averages across the entire population, blah, blah, blah. So this is interesting from a scientific perspective, but a couple of caveats. Number one, you know, try to keep your kid reasonably healthy. Do what you want, but get the vaccinations against scary stuff. They've performed miracles, saved kids lives. Second thing is, and this is the part I didn't want to get to prematurely, you get dealt the cards, you get dealt. We've lost that bedrock belief as human beings because a grievance culture and the narcissism of small distinctions. Nobody cares that you got, you know, 88% of the good luck when somebody else got 91%.

[Joe Getty]

It's what you do with it that matters.

[Patrick]

Yeah, get in the game and play. That's the only thing that matters.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

The whole one thing I had never,

[Joe Getty]

for whatever reason had never really occurred, occurred to me the other day, till somebody brought, brought it up, is if

[Jack Armstrong]

you're the oldest, you grew up in

[Joe Getty]

the household of the full number of your family for your whole life till you left.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whereas the youngest, in some cases, depending

[Joe Getty]

on how spread out they are, was,

[Jack Armstrong]

was an only child through high school or, or longer, like my younger brother, which would have been a completely different sitting down to the family table with nobody else there than when I was in high school and it was five of us. They had never really thought about that before.

[Patrick]

Right? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there was one more thing that I just thought was interesting because since Judy got pregnant with Kate many years ago, I. I've been fascinated by prenatal development, specifically neural development. Serious illnesses in early childhood can derail grain. Obviously it's derailed mind can derail brain growth and cast a long shadow on later life. In the first months of life, roughly 85% of an infant's calorie intake goes toward neural development.

[Jack Armstrong]

Isn't that amazing? So feed your child is your recommendation.

[Patrick]

That's absolutely non negotiable. A serious infection can reduce how much a baby eats and divert calories away from building a brain.

[Joe Getty]

The thing you know the most, and we've talked about this endlessly and everybody knows, well, everybody who's a Parent knows this.

[Jack Armstrong]

You don't know this till you're a parent completely. Is how different they are. Oh, yeah, they're so incredibly different. They have such a different tool set to go out into the world with. Some of it, you know, better than their siblings, some of it worse. And you go out there with what you got and, you know, make your

[Joe Getty]

way, but it just, that's, that's what's the. Blows your mind.

[Patrick]

And that's why you can't react to studies like this with a, Wait a minute, wait a minute. My little brother's a genius and highly successful and blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Averages across populations. Your family could be completely the opposite of everything that is indicated by the averages.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we did have a helicopter crash near the Strait of Hormuz. The pilots are fine, thank goodness. But the fact that we're this far into the war and haven't lost more

[Joe Getty]

guys or women is partially miraculous and

[Jack Armstrong]

partially to the fact that we stopped

[Joe Getty]

the war fairly quickly and haven't really engaged since, for better or worse. And I'm leaning toward worse. We got more on that coming up a little later with some of the quotes that Trump has put out today on this thing is gonna wrap up soon, which he has been saying now

[Patrick]

for quite a while. A little later on in the hour, I'd like to get to a really good analysis of Is California's election rigged? And the answer is there's no proof that it is, but, boy, they leave open a lot of area to doubt.

[Joe Getty]

I'm a pretty hard no on is it rigged?

[Jack Armstrong]

But yeah, it certainly doesn't. You don't do yourself any favors by dragging it out over a month like we got. There's a. I mentioned this last week, there's a close vote on a measure in the berg that I live in. There is a billion dollars at stake and they're still counting the votes and it's like 400 votes apart on whether or not a billion dollars gets spent or not on this big housing development. How could you possibly expect that there isn't somebody somewhere who's trying to influence that when you got that much money on the line? That's defying human nature.

[Patrick]

I'm a little surprised to hear you say hard. No, I'm agnostic on the question because I don't think it's knowable. I've designed a stadium where we don't check the tickets. And then you ask me how many people snuck in without tickets.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know.

[Patrick]

There's no mechanism. There's not an adequate mechanism to check it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I just. I'm not concerned that our our guy Spencer Pratt got screwed by by cheating on the voting. I think it get it's just LA is 84% to vote's Democrat, which this

[Jack Armstrong]

is the result you should get.

[Patrick]

Yes, that is definitely part of the

[Jack Armstrong]

reality, which is damn maddening. I'm not claiming it's not maddening. How bad would it have to get before you'd want to try something different? That's what's amazing.

[Patrick]

Just for a few years, right? Wow. All right.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

of what will be a very, very good deal that will not allow in any way, shape or form nuclear weapons, etc. And the street will open up right away. It'll open up immediately upon signing, which could be in two or three days.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I want that to be true. There is zero. I'm not the mainstream media who Trump said without evidence regularly on stuff all the time. But I'm gonna say it here. Trump said without any evidence that I can see anywhere, and I mean anywhere, that this is gonna be over in a couple of days. They're not gonna get a nuke and

[Joe Getty]

the straight will be open.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have you come across any evidence of that being true in any journalism anywhere?

[Patrick]

I haven't, no, other than the occasional comment by like an Ian Bremmer on Twitter or something that he's hearing. But I've heard that multiple times now. I hardly even pay attention to that sort of pronouncement by Trump at this point.

[Jack Armstrong]

But like in the last 24 hours because this is a new thing from

[Joe Getty]

Trump that it's very, very close. Just a couple days now.

[Jack Armstrong]

I haven't seen that reported by anybody like any opinion piece even.

[Patrick]

Right, right. I was thinking about this earlier and this thought occurred to me with greater clarity than it has before. Iran is absolutely hell bent and obsessed with killing all the Jews and wiping Israel off of the map. So you can either give them that in negotiations or any other agreement they come to is just a head fake because they will continue doing their their most sacred duty as they see it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I hope Trump is right about

[Joe Getty]

that, by the way. I hope he's got some behind the

[Jack Armstrong]

scenes, him and Jared Kushner and whoever

[Joe Getty]

working and Marco Rubio and they're going to announce something. I hope that's what happens and I'll be very happy about that. But like I said, I haven't even seen an opinion piece where they say that's going to happen, let alone any

[Jack Armstrong]

factual reporting about it. But I had one other thing.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe I'll think of it while tree

[Jack Armstrong]

yinks to Fox lets us know where

[CBS News Reporter]

we are now after President Trump called on Israel and Iran to stop shooting, both sides agreed. Since then, Israel has continued to operate against Iran backed Hezbollah in Lebanon, launching new strikes overnight and issuing fresh evacuation orders. This morning, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu addressed his country overnight with a message about Hezbollah.

[Benjamin Netanyahu]

In the past 24 hours, Iran and Hezbollah tried to impose a new equation on us. This equation is intolerable and unacceptable to me. They thought they could fire from Lebanese and Iranian territory at Israel and that we would not act. That did not happen and that will not happen.

[Joe Getty]

If I'm Bibi Netanyahu and I'm his age and his point in everything in life, I just finish off Hezbollah once and for all. Now, the world be damned with their opinion.

[Patrick]

Right. I would agree. We can get more into that situation if you want. The absolutely unholy situation in Lebanon. As I mentioned earlier, the Lebanese army is the third most powerful force in that country after the Israelis. And Hezbollah, it's a shell of a country. It's always on the brink of civil war. Sectarian religious violence is just a way of life there since, you know, ages ago, I guess.

[Jack Armstrong]

As to the Strait of Hormuz, which is why your gas is so expensive, the reporter goes on with questions about

[CBS News Reporter]

if the ceasefire could be broken again. International attention remains on the Strait of Hormuz, where the US naval blockade of Iranian ports is expected to continue. Centcom says U.S. forces disabled an unladen oil tanker in the Gulf of Oman on Monday after it tried to breach the blockade. An FA18 Super Hornet from the USS Abraham Lincoln fired a precision munition into the ship's engineering and steering rooms. Now, since the blockade went into effect, 134 vessels have been turned around with seven disabled.

[Patrick]

That doesn't sound a lot like progress.

[Joe Getty]

The headline, one of the opinion pieces in the Wall Street Journal today, Israel fights. While Trump talks, the US demands more restraint from an ally than it does from Iran. More talk about Israel needs to stop attacking than Iran needs to stop attacking.

[Patrick]

Yeah. Let me quote frequent correspondent JT who dropped us a note. Trump keeps attacking the good side, quote unquote, in his belief that doing so will facilitate a deal. The case of Russia. Trump kept accusing Zelensky of being the stumbling block to the deal.

[Jack Armstrong]

You don't have any cards. Do you even own a suit?

[Patrick]

While echoing Putin's talking points, Trump is now attacking Netanyahu, accusing him of scuttling a deal with Iran because of Israel's attacks on Hezbollah. And Trump is echoing Iran's talking points. That the Iran deal is linked to Israel not attacking Hezbollah. Trump seems oblivious to the psychopathy of Putin and Putin's willingness to absorb massive losses. Likewise, Trump seems oblivious to the nature of the death cult of Iran's particular form of Islamism and the willingness of Iran to absorb endless pain on the part of the civilian Iranian population. I agree completely.

[Jack Armstrong]

We all have blind spots because of our life history, and I find that so interesting. And Trump seems to be. Because his whole life he's dealt with people where the goal was making the most money, whether it was, you know, a guy owned land or a hotel or, or a mobster or whoever it was, I need to make a certain amount of money, then we make a deal. And because that's been everything his entire life, he assumes that's still true with, like, Putin and Mullis and can't wrap his head around the fact that for some people, that's not the end all, be all of their goals. Some people want dead Jews. Some people want to go down in history as Peter the Great more than they want to, you know, come out financially ahead or save lives or help

[Patrick]

their people have happier, more productive lives.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah.

[Patrick]

There is a real belief that Iran's latest move, the ramped up attacks by Hezbollah and lobbing missiles at Israel, at Kuwait, which we haven't even talked about, they've launched a bunch of attacks in the region. They've told the Houthis, hey, go ahead and jump, ugly. A lot of folks are saying Iran is thinking, you know, now's the time. We're on the front foot. Let's assert our power more in the region, let's collect more power to ourselves, you know, and you can throw Trump's name in it or leave it out, but obviously Netanyahu and Israel are saying that's the last thing that's going to happen here, the last thing on earth.

[Joe Getty]

Before we move on to a different topic, would you like to make any sort of prediction of where you think this is going? Because I don't have any idea in

[Patrick]

what, what length of time are we talking about? Like the near term, this week or ultimately, ultimately.

[Joe Getty]

Not ultimately, like a thousand years from now?

[Patrick]

But, but, oh, I was going to go with a thousand years ago this year, our robot overlords harvesting our organs. Of course, that's everything. A thousand years from now, AI will

[Joe Getty]

open the straight and build a data center.

[Patrick]

Gosh, I don't want to let my wishes be the father of my thoughts. I would think that the duplicity and unwillingness to reach a Deal that anybody could accept by Tehran is finally going to piss off Trump and maybe he'll do what needs to be done. I don't. Or just at least free Israel up to do what needs to be done. I don't. I'm very, very discouraged by the shape of this now for a couple of months. Right? Yeah. I mean it's just the same old. We're working on a deal. It's close, Very close. Hey, Bibi, stop bombing Hezbollah when they lob missiles at your people in your very capital. Stop, stop, stop. Because we were almost at a deal.

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[Joe Getty]

Either we gotta be willing to finish it hard, do the ugly thing, or it ain't gonna work out positive.

[Patrick]

I don't think an order without a sanction is merely a suggestion.

[Joe Getty]

Briefly, since I mentioned AI and data

[Jack Armstrong]

centers, did you see that stuff Elon

[Joe Getty]

said yesterday about building the. The power plants and everything on the moon?

[Patrick]

I did not.

[Joe Getty]

No.

[Jack Armstrong]

He thinks on a plane that just

[Joe Getty]

the rest of us aren't thinking about at all.

[Jack Armstrong]

He.

[Joe Getty]

It was a interview with somebody and I didn't understand most of it. But the, the main gist was planet

[Jack Armstrong]

Earth can produce a maximum amount of

[Joe Getty]

power that he has figured out because

[Jack Armstrong]

of various constraints of gravity, economics, climate,

[Joe Getty]

all kinds of different things. And he had the number like 1,

[Jack Armstrong]

Tera,000, Watts of power to run all

[Joe Getty]

these data centers because AI uses up

[Jack Armstrong]

so much energy and the ability to do it on the Moon is something like a thousand times greater than anything Earth could ever produce.

[Joe Getty]

And that's why he's working on right now getting to the Moon in fairly short time and in space and building these power plants that will be data centers for AI now and then. That's how we're going to get to Mars and blah, blah, blah, exponentially faster.

[Jack Armstrong]

But just who's thinking about that? That you can only produce so much power on Earth and we're going to

[Joe Getty]

produce it on the Moon so that

[Jack Armstrong]

we can take the next step of.

[Patrick]

Yeah. Whether for good or ill. He is a visionary. Absolutely.

[Jack Armstrong]

I can't even.

[Patrick]

I'm a guy who couldn't help my son craft a decent pinewood derby car. So the technology necessary to accomplish all of that. To say it boggles my mind is an understatement. It's like calculus to a golden retriever. But it's amazing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or in just his goals, though, who's thinking about these things? He could easily end up being the most important person.

[Joe Getty]

Unless you're religious and you're going to

[Jack Armstrong]

go with Jesus, the most important person that's ever lived.

[Joe Getty]

If he makes us a multi planetary

[Jack Armstrong]

species, which is his goal.

[Patrick]

Certainly be up there.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Need a gold statue of him somewhere.

[Patrick]

Can we return to the Middle east just for a moment?

[Joe Getty]

If you want to.

[Jack Armstrong]

And you know, I don't mind that transition because like I always say, when

[Joe Getty]

we start talking about AI this or

[Jack Armstrong]

that or the curing these diseases or whatever, meanwhile over here you got people who are willing to cut your head off because of a religion.

[Joe Getty]

So that ain't changed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Patrick]

Rather than rushing through this, why don't we put it off for a segment or two. But you hear about Lebanon and Hezbollah and a lot in in relation to the discussion we've just been having. I want to dig into that situation a little more so folks understand it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I have got such a great tease here. Gallup is out with their latest and

[Joe Getty]

I didn't even know they did this every year.

[Jack Armstrong]

Americans views of morally acceptable behaviors.

[Joe Getty]

They have 20 behaviors that human being engage in and whether or not we

[Jack Armstrong]

think they're moral or not.

[Joe Getty]

And then the shifting numbers for some of them over the years.

[Patrick]

Yeah, I've talked about a subset of those results earlier, but yeah, I'd like to hear the the broad array.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're not as open minded about trans

[Joe Getty]

stuff as we were five years ago.

[Patrick]

Far from it.

[Joe Getty]

Tell you that among other things, we'll

[Jack Armstrong]

get to star Stay right here please.

Armstrong and Gettys

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Apple is rolling out a major software update with new par controls.

We're giving parents powerful, easy to use tools to help manage what kids can see, who they can talk to and when they have access.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh boy.

[Joe Getty]

Man, if you got kids and they got smartphones, especially if they're teenagers, you only think about this every day because they walk around with the worst neighborhood on planet earth in their hands in a way that was never possible before

[Patrick]

and are remarkably clever at getting around any fences that are put up.

[Jack Armstrong]

When I was in high school, living

[Joe Getty]

in Gladys, living in small town western

[Jack Armstrong]

Kansas, I mean there were there, there were people around that did bad things

[Joe Getty]

and I'm sure there were people down

[Jack Armstrong]

at Brown that did like pretty, pretty bad things. But my dad had a pretty good idea of who I was going to be in communication with on a daily basis.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it would have been hard for me to run into a lot of

[Joe Getty]

those people as a 15 year old.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whereas now my 16 year old could, could be talking to a guy who will sell him a machine gun and heroin today easily or groom them for God knows what.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Patrick]

Well the scumbags and perverts have gotten systematic with it. They know how to troll, how to, you know, sort through many, many young people online and find would be victims in a way that it was impossible in like personal interchange for all of human history.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's go on with this report from CBS News about Apple's new software at

[Apple Representative]

its Worldwide Developers Conference. Apple said it's expanding child accounts required for kids under 13, limiting adult websites and setting age specific restrictions in the App Store. Apple says parents will be able to decide who kids can talk to in imessage and facetime, limit how much time can be spent in specific apps and extend or pause device use entirely.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's the one that I do because that's the one where I'm pretty sure I know they shut off completely at a Certain time. And I'm pretty positive at that point I got control of you. But any of the other hours where you're on your phone, I don't know

[Joe Getty]

if any of that other stuff is work.

[Patrick]

I'm.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm practically to the point of, why

[Joe Getty]

do I even try? Based on things I've learned in the,

[Jack Armstrong]

like, last six months from my son

[Joe Getty]

and other parents of.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's just so many ways around all these things. And whichever one you find out about, there's probably a hundred more.

[Patrick]

Right. Whether it's proxy websites or VPNs or whatever, they can mask who they are, the kids.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Here's a little more from that report.

[Apple Representative]

This comes as new research out today suggests that by age 13, teens may be more emotionally ready to receive their first smartphone without it automatically harming their mental health.

[Thorin Klosowski]

I think it's a step in the right direction.

[Apple Representative]

Thorin Klosowski is a privacy expert at the nonprofit Electronic Frontier Foundation.

[Jack Armstrong]

Foundation.

[Apple Representative]

Kids are known to get around parental controls. Are these foolproof?

[Thorin Klosowski]

No, they never are. And that's kind of why the conversation is really an important part here. Parents need to know that these tools exist. They need to know how to use them, and they need to know the kind of barriers that exist around them. There's not like a really, like, silver bullet here that's going to, like, magically fix this problem for everyone. I think it's going to have to be a kind of discussion that parents have with their kids, with the device makers ensuring that this, like, fosters a place where kids can still be kids.

[Patrick]

At 13.

[Joe Getty]

You're emotionally ready for a smartphone.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're not emotionally ready for a smartphone when you're 50 for the way it alters your life. Why do they do these studies? Ask anybody who uses a phone.

[Patrick]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Studies have found they're a distraction in the classroom. Studies have found. Why are anybody. Why is anybody spending any money doing these studies? We all know that this Michael, more

[Patrick]

importantly, that expert's name was Thorin. If my name was Thorin, do you think I could get away with going as Thor, asking people to call me Thor? Yeah, that'd be good, because that's what I would do. That's my plan. Do you want to carry a hammer?

[Joe Getty]

Right, I was gonna say. Do you want every single person to constantly say, where's your hammer? And deal with that the rest of your life? I don't.

[Patrick]

Well, you're right. The downside, I hadn't thought about that

[Jack Armstrong]

side of being named Thor. Glad I brought it up. Okay. One More clip from this report.

[Apple Representative]

The new parental controls will roll out in November. This as Apple also unveils Siri AI, a long awaited update to that conversational back and forth with a personal assistant that they have there. And after all of these announcements, just Hours later, rival OpenAI declaring it plans to take that company public.

[Jack Armstrong]

And of course you could go on ChatGPT and say how do I get around the new Apple parental controls as a 13 year old? And it will tell you and then you'll do it. I mean I'm, I don't want to. I'm glad Apple's trying. I'm, I'm all for trying, but I do feel like I just have to accept and hope by constantly telling my kids, you know, don't buy drugs from

[Joe Getty]

strangers and don't do this, don't do

[Jack Armstrong]

that, that it sinks in because I don't have any belief I can stop

[Joe Getty]

them from being in contact with this thing.

[Patrick]

Yeah, yeah, I didn't have to deal with this as a parent of kids, so it's tough for me to even talk about it. But to your point, you work constantly to install, instill the principles that will help them avoid the worst harms. Because the specific ability to look at porn or ugly porn or really too much porn at all is bad.

[Jack Armstrong]

But

[Patrick]

it's, it's just so difficult to limit that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm to the point now where if we could sign an agreement that all you do is look at porn and nothing else, I'm in. Go ahead. It's gonna be bad for your life and you'll never be able to get an erection. But that's better than a lot of the other stuff that's out there that

[Joe Getty]

you could get into.

[Patrick]

Wow, that's a hell of a deal.

[Joe Getty]

It is a hell of a deal.

[Patrick]

Apple from the tree of Knowledge folks. I stand by my, my theory.

[Jack Armstrong]

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