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Jack
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Jack
To be honest, I hate your dishonesty. It's one more thing.
Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty. One more thing. First, this. We didn't get to this story on the Armstrong and Getty radio show.
Jack
Maybe we will tomorrow.
Armstrong
Plane lands in San Francisco. Soon as it lands, federal agents rush into the plane and grab one of the pilots and take him off in cuffs. Man, if I was sitting there, I would think, what the hell is going on there? Yeah, it was some guy that had run afoul of child porn laws and they're waiting for him to land in the United States.
Jack
Wow.
Armstrong
Immediately ran, grabbed him and took him away. More on that on the next Armstrong and Getty radio show.
Jack
Well, you know, you put a cop right there at the entrance to the cockpit. He's not going anywhere.
Getty
I guess it's kind of odd they did that in front of the passenger.
Armstrong
They must have thought he was gonna.
Getty
Be a flight risk.
Armstrong
Hey. Huh.
Jack
That's pretty good. Santa plane. Yeah. I can't think of any better place to arrest somebody though. I mean, I get, I get your whole passenger thing, but I mean, like I said, he can't possibly flee anywhere. He can hardly even stand up.
Armstrong
Right? Yeah.
Jack
Wow. Perv. Mm.
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Jack
So your relationship can handle way more honesty than you think it can. As I often respond, how do you know what I think? In a new study from the University of Rochester in beautiful upstate New York found that being brutally honest with your partner benefits both of you even if things get uncomfortable. Wow.
Armstrong
I can't wait to hear the examples, because some of them are clearly. Well, maybe I'm wrong. I was going to say clearly, don't fall under this category. You know, do I look fat in this? But maybe I'm wrong. Are they going to say that you should tell them you look fat as a hog in that.
Jack
All right, so here's your methodology. Scientists examined 214 romantic couples who'd been together an average of 15 years.
Armstrong
There you go.
Jack
Researchers brought these couples into a laboratory and began jabbing them with sharp sticks. No, I made that part of they had them discuss something one partner wanted the other to change, the kind of conversation most people dread having. And partners took turns being the person requesting change and the person receiving the feedback.
Armstrong
This reminds me of one of my best friends texted me on Friday that can you believe it's been 32 years? They've been married for 32 years, he and his wife. And I remember him telling me one time, he said, sometimes you just gotta take a step back so they can't hit you and say an uncomfortable thing.
Jack
That's a funny way to put it. Anyway, so getting back to the methodology, which is interesting because as I haven't talked about this for a long time, I used to make it was an incredibly small amount of money. I can't even remember if it was 5 bucks or 15 or something. As an undergraduate student at the University of Illinois, I would answer the little ads. The psychology department needed subjects for experiments, tests, studies. And I would go down and I was, I did a bunch of them.
Armstrong
But like, would they lock you in a box and let rats gnaw on you? I mean, like, what kind of tests were you doing?
Jack
No, no, indeed. At the time, the Mambi Pamby administration wouldn't allow anything cruel or pain inducing. But the interesting part of it is they would tell you what you were doing and sometimes like what they were testing and then you would do what they want you to do, answer the questions or whatever. Then at the end they'd revealed that they weren't really looking into that thing at all.
Armstrong
Oh, cool.
Jack
They throw you off so you're not like trying to. Yeah, interesting.
Armstrong
Okay, yeah.
Jack
Teach to the test, as it were.
Armstrong
Anyway, so here's your examples.
Jack
No, no, I really can't. One might pop into my head while we're, we're talking. I can picture the setting.
Getty
They erased his memory when they hooked him up to the test.
Armstrong
With the rats nibbling on you.
Jack
Yeah. Oh yeah. These weird unexplained scars. Roughly rat tooth shaped. Anyway, so they, they brought the couples into the lab, had them discuss something. One partner wanted to change, the other changed the. And then vice versa. Before couples talked, participants privately wrote down what they wanted their partner to change. Then researchers compared what people wrote in private to what they actually said out loud during the recorded conversations. Now they, then they also had another layer of it. Independent observers watched all the videos. Bunch of people. And rated how honest each person was being by comparing their private thoughts to their spoken word.
Armstrong
But so is this like situation where you were going to. I'm going to, I'm going to tell them about their breath, you know, and you write down, I'm going to tell them their breath is horrible and they need to do something about it like that.
Jack
Sure.
Armstrong
But then you get the yips when you have to actually tell them and.
Jack
You like, yes, okay, yes, I do. We do. Everyone does. Yeah, it's that sort of thing. When people were more honest about requesting changes from their partners, both people in the relationship reported better emotional well being and higher relationship satisfaction immediately after the conversation. And researchers found that the couples did not need to share the same reality about the conversation for both people to benefit from it. What mattered more was that people were actually, actually were being honest and that their partners perceived them as honest.
Armstrong
So if I wrote down, I'm going to tell him about, okay, how about in this scenario, I'm married to a woman.
Jack
If I can say, wait a minute, this is an announcement.
Getty
This is going to be a hell.
Jack
Of a cool, we love you, we care about you, it's fine.
Armstrong
No, I think the other problem would complicate the marriage with him because I'd have to at some and say I'm not gay. So if you've noticed a lack of intimacy, it's because I'm not gay. So, so if I was going to say to her, your breath smells like a garbage dump, I don't need to say it like that. But if I was going to tell her that and then I get in there and I say, there are, there are, look, there are certain things about you, hygiene wise, that I don't dig or something like that because I, I get scared to just say it out loud.
Jack
But if I said it out loud.
Armstrong
It would be better for both of us.
Jack
Right. Not, not to be intentionally hurtful as your yeah, yeah, quasi humorous example was. But yeah, just be, be frank.
Getty
That's more like moral. The honesty aspect of it, like just coming out and saying what you feel.
Armstrong
Yeah.
Jack
To try jump to the end of it. You are sending the message, I am honest with you. And that underlying principle of your relationship is much more important than the topic or any momentary discomfort with someone being honest with you because it can be very uncomfortable.
Armstrong
Yeah, I need a better example because I just feel like that one wouldn't bother many people. I mean if somebody told me that just be, oh, well, I need to change things. I need a brush, I need to get a mint. I need to build. But I wouldn't be personally hurt, really.
Jack
It could be a sexual thing. You know, we, it's. It's to this or that or not enough. This or the way you do that is not only not pleasurable, it's really annoying and off putting. And you know, there are, there are ways you could put it that were a little more gentle, but it could certainly be something like that. Interestingly, researchers tested their findings across multiple measures including self reported emotional well being, relationship satisfaction and motivation to change. They also had trained observers rate the same factors. Patterns held consistent across all measures. And interestingly, three months later, many benefits persisted. People who had been more honest during the initial discussion reported better emotional well being and were more likely to see positive changes in their partners over time. Which makes sense.
Armstrong
Hmm.
Jack
Oh, here it is, Jack. Study participants were not discussing minor annoyances either. Changes people requested were specifically chosen to be topics they would find uncomfortable to share share real issues that could potentially cause conflict. Yet even in these challenging circumstances, honesty proved beneficial.
Armstrong
Listen, pillow princess, here, hold this. You hand her a trout and she says, why the truck? You're a. Like a cold fish.
Jack
That's what you're like. Wow. So perfect. Yeah, that's, that's, that's really good. Because people love a visual aids be metaphors and see the smell of a trout, right? Yes, fish.
Armstrong
Exactly.
Jack
You're like this in bed. There. Hold it. See how you like it. There we go. And she would reply, I feel better about our relationship.
Getty
This was beneficial.
Jack
Thank you. I feel better across several measures of satisfaction. Well, I guess that's it.
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Jack
This is an iHeart podcast.
Armstrong & Getty On Demand – Episode: "To Be Honest, I Hate Your Dishonesty"
Release Date: July 28, 2025
In this engaging episode of the Armstrong & Getty On Demand podcast, hosted by iHeartPodcasts, Armstrong, Getty, and Jack delve into the intricate dynamics of honesty within romantic relationships. Titled "To Be Honest, I Hate Your Dishonesty," the episode explores the profound impact that genuine honesty can have on relationship satisfaction and emotional well-being, backed by recent psychological research.
The episode kicks off with a brief yet riveting narrative shared by Armstrong regarding a startling incident involving a pilot's arrest upon landing in San Francisco.
Jack and Getty express their astonishment and analyze the scenario humorously, highlighting the unexpectedness of such an arrest occurring right in front of passengers.
Getty (01:59): “I guess it's kind of odd they did that in front of the passenger.”
Jack (02:07): “That's pretty good. Santa plane. Yeah. I can't think of any better place to arrest somebody though.”
This segment serves as a light-hearted introduction before transitioning into the main topic.
Jack introduces the central theme of the episode by referencing a study from the University of Rochester that underscores the benefits of brutal honesty between partners.
Armstrong expresses curiosity mixed with skepticism, pondering the practical applications of such honesty.
Jack elaborates on the study's methodology, providing a comprehensive overview of how honesty was measured and its effects analyzed.
Jack meticulously breaks down the research process, ensuring listeners grasp the validity and implications of the findings.
He explains that couples privately wrote down their desired changes before discussing them openly, allowing researchers to assess the level of honesty based on the alignment between private thoughts and spoken words.
The study revealed that honesty led to immediate improvements in emotional well-being and relationship satisfaction, even if the partners perceived the conversations differently.
To illustrate the study's findings, Armstrong and Getty share humorous and relatable scenarios, enhancing the discussion's relatability.
Jack supports this with a more serious example related to sexual intimacy, emphasizing that honest conversations can address deeper issues constructively.
Getty adds a touch of humor while reinforcing the importance of moral honesty.
The hosts discuss the study's longitudinal aspect, highlighting that the benefits of honesty extend beyond immediate emotional boosts.
Three months post-discussion, couples who practiced honesty continued to report enhanced emotional well-being and observed positive changes in their partners.
This enduring impact underscores honesty's foundational role in fostering healthy and resilient relationships.
Wrapping up, Armstrong and Getty reiterate the significance of honesty, encouraging listeners to integrate these findings into their own relationships for lasting benefits.
Jack (09:29): “It could be a sexual thing... honesty proved beneficial.”
Getty (10:43): “That's what you're like. Wow. So perfect.”
Their blend of humor and insightful analysis offers a balanced perspective, making the episode both entertaining and enlightening.
Jack (03:29): “Being brutally honest with your partner benefits both of you even if things get uncomfortable.”
Armstrong (07:51): “Sometimes you just gotta take a step back so they can't hit you and say an uncomfortable thing.”
Jack (07:46): “What mattered more was that people were actually being honest and that their partners perceived them as honest.”
Jack (10:15): “Three months later, many benefits persisted.”
"To Be Honest, I Hate Your Dishonesty" offers a compelling exploration of how honesty, even when uncomfortable, can strengthen romantic bonds. Through a blend of scientific research, personal anecdotes, and witty banter, Armstrong and Getty provide listeners with actionable insights into fostering more genuine and fulfilling relationships. This episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking to enhance their interpersonal connections through the power of honesty.