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Jack Armstrong
This is an iHeart podcast, guaranteed human.
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Joe Getty
Broadcasting. Live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty.
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And now here's Armstrong and Getty.
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Narrator/Reporter
A quad God. Ilia Malinin wowed the crowds once again in his event, earning the top spot. And at the gold medal match for mixed doubles, curling duo Corey and Corey coming down to the last throw. The pair losing to Sweden for silver, the first ever medal for the US in this event.
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Joe Getty
I only wanted to play this because the quad God the other night was the main reason that Team USA won the gold, and now he's doing the individual. But it occurred to me that they always use the term quad God because it's a. It's a cool nickname, and it helps, you know, describe what he is. He lands quads. That's four spins in the air, and nobody else has ever done it in the history of competition. The fact that he does it over and over and over again is pretty amazing. But I don't know his name, so I'm wondering if that's not working against him. His nickname is so cool that he's not a household name. Quad God is household name. His name is not a household name, though. I wonder if that's. You think that's going to be a. Because your.
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Your goal branding challenge, Your goal with.
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These sports that don't have the, you know, you're not going on to be a professional where you make tons of money, is you want to be an endorser.
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Right.
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That's where the real money is.
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Most of your skaters do. Actually, there's a pro circuit that's pretty lucrative because women go to watch it.
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But it can't be the millions that are involved in. I mean, like, Travis Kelsey plays in the NFL. He still makes five times as much off endorsements as he does off his NFL.
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Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's funny. Last night I decided I was going to memorize his name because I couldn't remember it. It's Ilya Malinin. But you're right, everybody knows him as the quad God, which actually, that's great branding. It's probably good enough. Hi, I'm Ilya Malinin, the quad God for Gillette deodorant or whatever. But, yeah, he will have to throw in the quad God. But it's a great moniker.
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After spinning four times in the air, you don't want to smell. That's why I use Gillette deodorant.
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Keep working on that script. I'm sorry, that's Right. That reminds me, I gotta, I gotta finish something real quickly. 73, 2, 0. Okay. I'm keeping a running count on how many times I've been injured in the gym versus how many times I've been injured laying on the couch. And it's now up to 73 to 0. Draw the obvious conclusion.
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Stay on the couch. Stay on the couch.
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Too dangerous to exercise.
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The couch is safe. I mean, you can look at a chart.
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Today's my birthday. I was gonna play a little golf, but I strained a muscle in the gym, so now I can't. Should have stayed on the couch anyway.
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Are you lifting too heavy?
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I think I'm too old. No, I was, I was doing. I was doing something I needed to do. I probably went a little too far, a little too fast. Yeah, yeah.
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Most people lift too heavy. Like it's just, it's especially dudes. I think it's just you want to be a guy who lifts more weight, but you can keep your form and do what you want to do with lighter weight. It's just you want to be. You don't want to be a guy using, you know, 10 pound dumbbells or whatever.
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You don't want to be that guy.
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Over in the corner.
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Yeah, I try really hard to be a realist about that and not fall for that. And it takes effort.
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It does.
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It really was more a stretchy, strengthy thing. But anyway, it doesn't matter. So I'm curious to hear what the think piece in the watpo had to say about autism.
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What you said reminded me of. And I will get to this, but the latest Kevin Hart comedy special on Netflix, which is pretty funny. It's all about being over the age of 40. And so now he's discovering the how you get injured all the time once you reach midlife. And he said you never.
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It's okay because your healing time is way slower.
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Well, he said you'd never get back to normal, which is pretty much true. Anyway, he had one. And I won't spend much time on this because, you know, he does it better and you'll want to watch the show. But he said he was standing in his shower and he stepped on something and one foot got really far away from the other foot. That foot had never been that far away from my other foot. And I'm grabbing for railings. That is, that is what happens when you reach a certain age and you.
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Limp for two weeks. Right.
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He challenged a. And his story, telling him the story is so funny. But they were drinking and it Was late at night and he's out with, you know. Cause he runs with a pretty cool crowd. I'm sure he challenged some former NFL player to a foot race in the street because he thought he was actually faster than the guy. And he like, did serious damage. Ended up in a wheelchair hurting himself.
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Wow. Wow. Yeah.
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Which can happen when you get to be middle aged. What? My doctor said don't play sports with people in their 20s. Only play sports with people your own age. Which seems like a good idea.
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Yeah, Good tip.
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Opinion piece in the Washington Post. The autism epidemic is a myth. I feel like having read the whole article. While there is some interesting data in there, it's a little clickbaity because you know you're gonna get a lot of people to jump on a. On a headline like that either. The crowd that. I knew it. I knew a lot of childless people, by the way. I knew it. This is all, you know, blah, blah, blah. Or the crowd that has an autistic kid and says my kid is not. This is not a myth, and clicks on it also. So most new cases reflect mild or no significant impairment. Moderate or severe cases have declined according to this data. I just. We'll bring this up before I get into a little more of the article. I was texting with a friend of mine. She is autistic and has raised three autistic children ranging from mild to severely autistic. And she got into. And I won't get into super detail on this, but the spectrum and a lot of things that they used to call Asperger's syndrome and they now put on the autism spectrum. So obviously that would increase the numbers to a certain extent and everything like that. But here's one part I didn't know. This is from a different article. Women have the same rates of autism as men, but get diagnosed less. I didn't know this. It's always been known that girls are far less likely to be autistic but tend to be more severely afflicted when they are. So women, for whatever reason, if you are on the spectrum, it's usually the more severe type. Kind of interesting.
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Yeah, interesting. Is the father of an autistic daughter. I'm very interested in this stuff that rings true to me. I came across this also in the WaPo. This was a while back and I held onto it. Work published in the summer by the journal Nature Genetics. And I wish we had time to get into a lot of detail on this because it's so interesting. But scientists now believe there are four distinct sorts of autism. It's not just a spectrum, quote unquote of mild to severe. The four groups that they detailed and yes, we'll post this@armstrongandgetty.com under Hot Links so you can take a look at it. Number one, they call broadly affected. The smallest group, about 10% of participants. Participants face the steepest challenges, marked by developmental delays, difficulties with communication and social interaction, and repetitive behaviors that touch nearly every part of life. Then there's mixed autism with developmental delay, which is roughly 19% showed early developmental delays but few signs of anxiety, depression, or disruptive behavior. Researchers call this group mixed because its members vary widely in how strongly they display social or repetitive behavior. Then there's moderate challenges. About a third of participants fell into this group showing the hallmark traits of autism, social and communication differences and repetitive habits, but in subtler ways and without developmental delays. Then finally, social and or behavioral. The largest group, around 37%, met early developmental milestones on time, yet often grappled with other conditions later on, including adhd, anxiety, depression, or obsessive compulsive disorder. Which reminds me very much of my daughter, man.
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And that's the tough thing with a lot of. A lot of this stuff is I hate to use your spectrum because that's a specific thing. But on the.
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That's fine.
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The scale of 0 to 10 of how much you have of things, everybody's got a little bit of something like I've always talked about before, everybody's OCD a little bit. Everybody. I don't know if I've ever known anybody that's not like I always have the microwave on an even number when I said it, for some reason, I don't know why. I mean, just another little things like that. But it's not in any way affects my life. Well. Right.
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It's not a disorder.
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And then you know, and I know a child who has it to a degree that it is sometimes very difficult to deal with. And so it's interesting this friend of mine who is autistic and raised three autistic kids and has spent several decades taking in every bit of autism research that exists and dealing with schools and doctors and all that sort of stuff, said I'm clearly on the spectrum, which I find very, very interesting because I'm going to be 61 years old here in a couple of weeks and have been relatively successful in my life. And so if I even if that's true, would there be any value of a diagnosis of that sort of thing for people that can easily survive in the world I don't, I don't even know what you would get out of.
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That, I think so to have a better understanding of your weaknesses or.
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Be.
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Better aware of what effects it might have and you might recognize in yourself or I might recognize in myself.
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Oh.
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That's why I'm uncomfortable in settings.
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Don't want anybody to ever hug me under any circumstances.
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Right, Exactly. Exactly. I'm not, not hateful unless we're having sex.
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I do not want you to hug me. Right.
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That's part of my neurological reality. Oh, okay. Interesting. I don't, I. I think the better you know yourself, the better, just in general.
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But if you would expand it to people like me, if that is even true, and I don't spend much time thinking about it. If I were 25, I might think about it a lot at this point in my life, I'm not sure it makes any difference. In fact, I'm sure it doesn't make any difference. But if you were to expand it to include people like me, obviously you would have a greater number of people qualify as autistic and that would factor into the stats going up and then, I don't know, I guess people would disagree over whether that's an explosion in autism or not.
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And that would affect funding and it's at least worth tipping our caps to the rampant false diagnoses, deliberately fraudulent diagnoses like in Minnesota to rip off.
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Right, right. There's a lot of be money, a lot of money to be had if you, you know, you get diagnosed with something like this. Man, that's a tough one. That's a tough nut to crack.
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Briefly on this article. I think the person goes way too far in the whole. Lots of people that would have just been described as weird in the past are now put on the autistic spectrum. There, there is something happened in the last hour. Many decades. There are way more kids. I mean it's just if you got a kid in that world, it's just obviously true.
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Yeah. And I, I do not like the attitude of I've figured this out, it's all fake. That that's the opposite of science. Science is about curiosity. Always never ending curiosity. There's no such thing as settled science when you're talking about autism.
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This part is interesting though and I hope it's true. During the same period of time that there's been an explosion in people diagnosed there's a 20% decrease in the prevalence of moderate or severe autism. And I hope that's true. I hope moderate or severe is going down. We don't know why it went up in the first place. So we certainly don't know why it's going down. But I hope it's going down.
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Amen to that.
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We're doing less something and it's going down. That would be very, very good. Any thoughts that? Text line 415295 KFTC ARMSTRONG and GETTY.
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CBS News Reporter Jennifer Jacobs
CBS News reporter Jennifer Jaco Jacobs sharing on X The decision to close El Paso International Airport to all flights for 10 days was triggered by Mexican cartel drones breaching US airspace. This is something that she says officials have told CBS News the War Department took action to disable those drones. Reportedly again that from Jennifer Jacobs with CBS News.
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Joe Getty
So there was announcement like last night that El Paso was going to close their airport and airspace for 10 days. When made it and wouldn't say why. It was security reasons. Seemed like a really big deal. And then they opened it back up and announced it was Mexican cartel drones. Wow. Why would the Mexican cartels do that? I wouldn't think you'd poke the bear like that.
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It's the first thing I wanted to know. Why in the world would you, you know, well poke the bear what possible unless it was accidental but mean you start messing or they've been getting away with it until recently and some jackass went too close to an airport. Not realizing that's one thing that we're pretty aware of. Our airspace.
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That's a possibility. I mean, they're. You start messing with our airspace, you know, and all the. All the regulations and everything since 911 plus just commerce, there's going to be a real justification to put an end to that whole narco state south of the border.
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Right, right. So you're saying it's a false flag operation?
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I did not say that. You said that.
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You hinted at it. Hinted darkly at it.
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The El Paso drone operation or the Reichstag fire, however you want to call it.
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Wow. Gulf of Tonkin. What? Look it up. So, one more note about our nation's youth, and this is not very cheery, unless you had more on the El Paso drones.
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That's a story to keep an eye on.
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I don't know, like a WNBA team or a soccer club or something else.
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Right.
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Anyway, speaking of the youngsters in their neurological health, a big Canadian study just came out that people born in the 2000s face double the risk of psychosis than people born like 20 years prior. Psychosis diagnosis, that's serious mental illness among 14 to 20 year olds surged 60% between 1997 and 2023, while rates in older adults stayed flat or declined, pointing to a generational shift rather than just better detection.
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Autism, adhd, psychosis, all this stuff. What the hell? Anxiety, depression, what is going on there?
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Smartphones is a lot of it, but not psychosis. A smartphone can't make you psychotic. It might make you feel psychotic some days, but you're not actually psychotic. I mean, that's a shocking rise in a short amount of time. Teens born in the early 2000s face more than double the risk of psychosis diagnosis by age 20 compared to those born in the late 70s, being diagnosed about two years younger on average. The increases could stem from multiple modern exposures, including high potency, cannabis and other drug use, older parental ages, increased stress, air pollution, and changes in prenatal and infant health. Air pollution wouldn't be it. That's a ridiculous explanation. Air pollution was far, far worse in the 1970s. Yeah, I'm afraid I may have to throw away the study because of that sentence.
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I just. How much time we got, Michael? Not much time, right?
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About one minute.
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I just saw an ad for the Olympics up there and it reminded me, I've had a dream two nights in a row. I have one dream a year, usually now I've had a dream two nights in a row. Very weird. I had a dream last night that included Snoop Dogg. I just saw him up on the Olympics and remembered that. And Gavin Newsom. I don't know what was going on there. I often think dreams do have some sort of meaning, but oftentimes they've got none. But I'm more interested in why I haven't. I go years without a dream and I've had two, two nights in a row.
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Experts would say you just don't remember.
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Your dreams, but I don't know if I believe them.
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You've hit us with the cast. Snoop Dogg and Gavin Newsom. What was the plot?
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It was something about us having him on the air and, and him being unhappy with things we said in the past. And some people were really, some people were playing tapes of things we've said to him and. Well, because we were claiming we'd never, we're claiming we'd never said anything bad about it.
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Snoop Dogg was like, yo, you talk some. She's nizzle about this boy.
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Yeah, yeah. Which is just interesting. The jobs numbers came out and are good, better than were expected. So the Trump administration's got to be pretty happy about that. Among other things that we can get to coming up, we've got a podcast for you if you miss a segment. Armstrong and Getty on demand.
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CBS News Reporter Jennifer Jacobs
Armstrong and Getty, can you show me.
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Reporter/Interviewer
So, hey, where you had bruises?
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Joe Getty
I had bruises all right here along both wrists.
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Reporter/Interviewer
Romero and her 14 year old daughter Suhay, both US citizens said agents herded them along with Romero's two younger children to the racetrack. Their officer zip tied Suhay, it's her 8 year old sister by her side. In an email, the Department of Homeland Security first told CBS News it was a conspiracy theory. In second email, they denied ICE agents zip tied children.
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Joe Getty
So some of these videos and the kids involved, it didn't look good, I'll tell you that. Look like, why would that little girl be zip tied? We'll get into a little back and forth between the zip tire, the sheriff and the reporter here in just a second. But it's so tough with, I mean, I don't, I don't trust anybody on any of these stories the way they're presented.
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Yeah.
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And so I just, I never know who's exaggerating which direction or the other. The fact that the temper, you know, the fact that the Trump administration pulled out ICE Barbie and put Holman in there and has admitted some overreach means there was some overreach because I don't think they'd admit to it unless they felt they had to. Overreach is in, you know, going way too far in some circumstances.
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And the messaging at Times he was a domestic terrorist who came to slaughter as many people as possible. You know that, that stuff. So yeah, their spin has been discredited, so I don't know who to believe.
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It's tough. Here's a little of. Why were you zip tying little kids?
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Sheriff
The youngest that was zip tied was 16 years old and he had a mustache. There were kids in there, they weren't zipped. Those little ones were not zip tied.
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Reporter/Interviewer
This is a picture of Suhay. We met her this morning. She's 14 years old.
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Sheriff
Okay.
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Reporter/Interviewer
She's a, I would say a child, a girl who was zip tied. And these are the bruises from those zip ties.
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Joe Getty
And I.
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Reporter/Interviewer
Have you seen that or heard?
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Sheriff
I had not, I had not seen that. But I will tell you this. I've been in this business a long time. I've gone against gang members who are a lot younger than that.
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Reporter/Interviewer
She was with her six year old brother and eight year old sister.
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Sheriff
You're, but you're taking that out of context.
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Joe Getty
We do not know.
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Reporter/Interviewer
Do you need. There's a role with two small children with her. How dangerous could she possibly be?
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Sheriff
We don't know.
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Joe Getty
See that's, that's, that's. Oh God dang it. Nobody tries at all for any sort of middle ground, right? Really? You, you're gonna pretend that you're completely unaware that there are 14 year old gang bangers who kill people? You're gonna pretend that that's not true. On the other hand, well, and also you, the way the video is portrayed because I watched the news last night before they got into the details, it looked like the littlest kids were also zip tied and turns out they were not. Well, the sheriff said nobody younger than 16. He's saying, well, this person's 14 and she was zip tied. So where the cutoff actually ended up being, I don't know, but it wasn't the six year old. On the other hand, these two girls spoke perfect English and it's just hard to imagine what's going on there where they needed to be zip tied.
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Well, if you're a Stephen Millerite, you don't care about this, but the poll numbers are unmistakable. Americans want the bad people shipped out and Americans are very sympathetic toward the folks who have followed the law once they got to the country. Again, you can argue against the logic of that or scream they broke the law and they crossed the border. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm just talking about what the sentiment of the vast majority of the American people is and it ain't rounding up certainly young American citizens and putting zip ties on them, no matter their age.
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Right? Yeah.
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And I'm not saying the sheriff's a monster or anything like that. I don't have enough facts. No.
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And he's also been put in an incredibly difficult situation and say this over and over again. You bake the. The ingredients for the cake you baked are 15 million illegals that the population has shown in polling, after polling. They want them out. So then how do you do that without breaking a lot of eggs to make the omelet? I don't know how you ever would.
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I think Trump and company could have done a better job, frankly.
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I think they could have, too. There's also an argument that, and this might be what Trump thinks, we're going to come hard and heavy and it's going to look bad and people are going to be upset for a while, but it's going to send the message, don't come. And people aren't going to come. And people didn't come last year. Almost nobody. And nobody's going to come for the rest of Trump's term. He's going to leave office with, like two people coming across the border. And people may have forgotten this part by the time you get to the end of his term. Maybe. I don't know.
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That is true, too. And if immigration was the only issue, I'd call that a big win. But there are a lot of issues, and if Republicans lose, you know, one or both houses and Trump is a lame duck and weakened and blah, blah, blah, then all that other good stuff is going to be much harder to accomplish. So it's more complicated.
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And I'll always throw in. Be awful nice if you went after the people who hire the illegals. Anybody going after them, they know exactly what they're doing. They're breaking the law every single day, have been for decades. Anybody going to go after them, you know who they are and where they are.
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Both parties are in on it, as we've been saying for 30 years. Well, at least there's one bastion, Jack, of fact finding and sober analysis and not over emotional pitching of one opinion or another. And that place of near holy objectivity, of course, is the United States Congress.
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Jack Armstrong
Mr. Lyons, do you consider yourself a religious man?
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Joe Getty
Yes, ma'. Am.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, yes. Okay. Well, how do you think Judgment Day will work for you with so much blood on your hands?
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Joe Getty
Oh, my God. I'm not gonna entertain that question.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, okay. Of course not. Do you think you're going to hell Mr. Lyons, I'm not gonna end.
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Joe Getty
Of course.
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Jack Armstrong
How many governments.
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Committee Chair
The gentlelady will suspend. Gentlelady will suspend.
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Joe Getty
Chairman, as I.
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Committee Chair
A gentlelady will suspend. As I said, the issues we're debating here are important to ones that members feel deeply about.
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Jack Armstrong
Thank you.
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Committee Chair
While vigorous disagreement is part of the legislative process, members are reminded that we must adhere to established standards of decorum and debate. The witnesses are here voluntarily.
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Joe Getty
And I will continue.
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Committee Chair
Remind. Continue. Remind members that while oversight is important, aggressively attacking those witnesses personally is inappropriate and not in keeping with the traditions of our committee.
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Jack Armstrong
Mr. Chairman, I'm just asking a question.
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Joe Getty
You all.
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Jack Armstrong
You guys are always talking about religion here in the Bible. I mean, it's okay for me to ask a question, right? But let me continue on. I got your notes.
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Joe Getty
All right. The gentlelady may receive.
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Jack Armstrong
Let me get back to my question. And, Mr. Chairman, thank you.
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Joe Getty
I appreciate you.
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Representative Lamonica McIver with the Acting ICE Director, Mr. Lyons.
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In a weird sort of way, I like her act. I don't, but I do. It was a good version of that.
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Showmanship was really good.
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Do you like hats, sir? What sort of hat do you plan to wear in hell?
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Wow. Wow.
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You know, you won't answer the question.
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I'm sorry.
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God, that was over the top.
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As a language national Socialist, I'm aware that many African American people say axe instead of ask. It's fine. She said ax.
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She's taking it up a notch.
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Ax.
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That was something.
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How do you think Judgment Day will work for you with so much blood on your hands, huh?
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Oh, no, you got me.
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Wow. That's congress, folks.
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I wouldn't even have gone with. I'm not gonna answer that question. I would have just sat there and looked at her with a very straight face. Okay.
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Hey, you're the party that doesn't know what a woman is, so. Because you're not a biologist, I can't answer that question because I'm not a theologian. You dumb. I shouldn't have said that. I'm sorry. May I retract that, Mr. Chairman?
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Suppose you get thirsty. What? Suppose you get thirsty in hell. Oh, I can do that all day long.
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Oh, yeah?
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Yeah. Oh, my God. That was over the top.
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Oh, my gosh.
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Oh, you're the party. So he's talking about the Bible. I can't ask just a couple simple questions about what it's gonna be like for this guy in hell? Cause that's clearly where he's going.
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Mr. Acting Director, do you think you're going to hell? What I'm in hell right now. And you're Satan.
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Yes, I'm in hell and you're Satan. That have been a good one. There you go. The jerk store called a nice out of you. I wish I'd have thought of that at that time.
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So a couple other political headlines of note. I think the several Republicans crossed the aisle and voted in favor of bringing to the floor a resolution against the Trump tariffs already passed in the Senate. With Republicans crossing the aisle now, at least it's come to going to come to a vote on the House floor. Where that goes, nobody knows. The Supreme Court really is going to be the authority on that, I think, eventually. And then this is, you know, this is, this is some realistic, cynical political analysis for you folks. So you remember when Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona and others made that dopey video telling the troops they don't have to follow illegal orders? And then Trump and company and then Pete Hegseth went crazy and announced it was seditious behavior at the highest level. They should be arrested and put on trial, blah, blah, blah. Well, Jeanine Pirro took that case to a grand jury and keeping in mind you can get an indictment for a ham sandwich. The jury said, no, there's no criminal charge here, and just sent him packing. Setback, humiliation. Clear sign of overreach in any era but this one. In this era. Full credit from the ultra maga crowd for trying to prosecute these people.
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Sure. Yeah.
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Never mind the fact that they didn't break the starting tape, much less get to the finish line, but they got credit for trying. Performative politics. It's not doing anybody any good.
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Well, it ain't ended anytime soon.
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No. No, it is not.
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Here's a good text on a previous topic. There was almost no autism when we were allowed to smoke in restaurants. I love the whole causation correlation thing that I find.
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I find that there's no arguing with that. That's science.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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It's like your year one always 100%.
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Of fatality rate among people who eat pickles.
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Right. Everyone who eats pickles dies.
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That's correct. Think about it.
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The science is solid on that. It's chilling. You said there's no settled science. That science is settled.
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And you know what's really crazy? Sweet pickles. Dill picker.
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Doesn't make a difference.
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Butter. Pickles.
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Relish. Relish.
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Same. It's pickles. The common element. Pickles.
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Okay, we got more. Next.
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Stay here.
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Caller
Armstrong and Getty, they bust the doors from my house. They went inside and Took my son to the little woman and had him handcuffed and then got him outside. They took my phone, my husband's phone, my daughter's phone, my grandkids phone, and my son in law's phone.
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Joe Getty
Wow. That's the mother in law of the person of interest. So if you're following the whole Guthrie case yesterday, right when we got off the air, they released the pictures in the video. Then the FBI and law enforcement got 10,000 tips on who that might be. That looks just like my cousin Jim. He walks just like that and has a backpack or whatever. But somebody close by, we don't know why yet, but for some reason they were led to believe that this dude we're about to hear from matched the description of the eyes and the eyebrows and the shape of the head and the walk and everything like that.
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He's a delivery man, so it's conceivable he would be aware of who lived where and have seen the house and that sort of thing.
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You just heard from the mother in law, you know, the, the, the. The cops busted down the doors and came in and handcuffed this dude and took everybody's phones and everything like that. They've let, they've let him go, by the way, by now. And Joe's theory is there's no way. They wouldn't hold him if they thought he was the person.
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But correct, please, kidnapping with homicide, they would find a reason.
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So bunch of different news organizations immediately interviewed the guy. Let's hear from him.
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Suspect
I mean, I hope they get the suspect because I'm not it. They better do their job and find the suspect. They did it so they can clear my name and I'll be done. Look at what I'm putting my family. I understand. Even my parents in Tucson.
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Joe Getty
Right?
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Suspect
Yeah.
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Joe Getty
Well, when they finally told you this was how to do some kidnapping, like what. What were you thinking?
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Suspect
What the am I doing here? I didn't do anything, to be honest. Like I'm innocent.
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Joe Getty
Okay, let's hear more. That was a New York Times interview. I'm here. CNN got to the guy.
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Suspect
I mean, I hope they get the suspect because I'm not it. They better do their job and find the suspect that did it so they can clear my name and I'm done. Okay. I don't put in my family. I'm just saying even my parents in Tucson.
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Joe Getty
Okay. It's the same part of the same thing. And then, and then Fox actually ask him some more questions. What were they asking you about that were my whereabouts.
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Reporter/Interviewer
Okay.
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Suspect
Where do I work, where was I and all that.
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Joe Getty
But are you ever up in Tucson?
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Suspect
Yeah, I work in Tucson.
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Joe Getty
What do you do?
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Suspect
TLS Deliver packages.
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Joe Getty
Okay. Do you think you might have delivered.
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Reporter/Interviewer
A package to Nancy Guthrie's house?
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Joe Getty
I don't know.
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Suspect
Might have been a possibility.
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Joe Getty
I don't know.
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Yeah.
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Reporter/Interviewer
Do you ever deliver, like, Amazon packages or anything?
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Suspect
Well, it's. That's kind of the same thing.
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Joe Getty
Yeah.
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Reporter/Interviewer
So do you think you may have.
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Joe Getty
Did they ever.
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Did they indicate that you might have been on her property? You're not sure?
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Suspect
Nah, they just came up. They did until right now. All I know is that they show my. My in law a picture of somebody wearing a mask or something, and they. They supposedly look like my eyes.
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Joe Getty
Right.
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Reporter/Interviewer
Okay.
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Suspect
That's it.
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Joe Getty
That's all.
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I would scare the crap out of you. They bust your door down and come in and handcuff you and take care of all the phones and everything like that.
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Right.
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I mean, once it calmed down, I'd be okay because I didn't do it, so I'm fine. But during the mayhem, I'd be. That's not. Nobody shoot anybody here, right?
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Goodness sakes. They must have had a handful of indications that this guy was a hot prospect.
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Have you seen him? Yeah, he does look like. If you put a ski mask on him, he would look like that dude.
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Yeah. Doughy guys with mustaches are unfortunately a dime a dozen, but what the heck? Next. Next one might be legit.
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So that's all they need to bust down your door and come in.
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There's a DY guy with a mustache there. Bust him.
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No, I don't.
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Like I said, there had to be more than that. There had to be, like, the fact that he was a delivery driver. He got around, he saw people's names on packages and blah, blah, blah. And somebody obviously sent them a tip that it could be this guy.
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As. As everybody's saying, the most disappointing news in terms of the optimism of this poor old lady being found alive is it's not a professional operation. Obviously, if you watch the video is a half wit at best. You put your face right up to the camera. Darn, there's a camera. Then you go break some branches off a bush to come cover up the camera. I mean, that's not a well thought out plan.
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No, no, indeed.
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So the chance of him, you know, having a good plan for getting the old woman out, keeping her alive, getting the money, than giving her back, probably not so much.
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Right, right. Yeah, that's. It's so tragic. That's We've talked about this in a couple of contexts. The proportionality paradox, I think they call it. But the idea that somebody that useless and small, a nonentity, as they used to say back in the day, could cause damage this horrific to a family and to an individual, obviously.
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Yeah.
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Unfortunate but true.
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It's hard to imagine how asshat came up with the idea of carrying his gun in a holster between his legs over his crotch like that, since I've never seen that in any TV show or movie or anything ever in my life. What was what are you doing there, dude?
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No mobster, no gang banger, no bank robber, no sheriff, no homeowner. Nobody wears their holster over their fonts. What is that?
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It's guaranteed to get in the way when you're like moving around, squatting down, walking, whatever.
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Yeah.
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What are you doing, you lame o.
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Anyway, there are many perfectly sane, wonderful women in this country and around the world. If you are one of them, please look after your health because we need you. There are a hell of a lot of women losing their minds in the western world. A number of stories all related to that theme coming up in hour four.
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Jack Armstrong
Hour four?
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Joe Getty
You say you do another one? That's right. And if you don't get hour four, you can't hang around. Just grab it later via Podcast subscribe to Armstrong, you get on Demand. Hit us with five star review if.
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You have a minute at the Olympics. The media who are awful, have decided the cool thing to do is to ask delicate political questions to these 19 year old athletes and put them on the spot and get him to say something awful about the United States. Then the media acts like they didn't provoke them into that. It's just something they said. And oddly enough, the one US Born athlete that competes for China and won a medal the other night has never been asked a single question about the awfulness of China. We'll get into that story coming up in our four these media jerks need.
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A ski pole up them. I shouldn't have said that.
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You should have said that. You should have done it. If you miss an hour, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand.
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Jack Armstrong
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