Valentine's Day? You Mean Penis Christmas?

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Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode Title: Valentine's Day? You Mean Penis Christmas?
Release Date: February 14, 2025
Host: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Guest: Tim Sandifer, Vice President of Legal Affairs at the Goldwater Institute

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1. Introduction of Guest and Show Dynamics

The episode kicks off with Jack Armstrong introducing their regular guest, Tim Sandifer, humorously addressing their on-air dynamic. Jack shares a playful anecdote about receiving a text stating, "Jack is the dumb one" [02:26], setting a lighthearted tone for the discussion.

2. Playboy Magazine's Comeback and Cultural Reflection

Jack and Tim delve into the resurgence of Playboy magazine. Jack remarks, "Playboy magazine is back. I do hope it succeeds. The anti-sex, anti-intellectual culture of the past decade has got to be overturned" [04:00]. Tim elaborates on how Playboy represents a shift back towards celebrating beauty and intellect, critiquing the current cultural trends that denigrate beauty and promote what he terms an "anti-sex culture." He argues that this resurgence is a "healthy development" for reversing the decline in cultural standards [05:58].

3. Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) in Education

The conversation shifts to Tim’s involvement in a lawsuit against Arizona State University for mandating DEI training. Tim explains, "ASU requires cultural sensitivity training that tells you white people should be ashamed for historical oppressions, which is illegal in Arizona" [07:03]. He criticizes DEI initiatives as "anti-American, anti-white, anti-capitalist, anti-male propaganda," highlighting a recent report from the Goldwater Institute estimating "$2 billion a year are spent on these classes" [09:00].

Jack pushes back on DEI, asking Tim to clarify its worst manifestations. Tim responds by describing DEI as promoting the idea that "the American Dream is a lie" and that "Western civilization advancements have been at the expense of the exploitation of the masses" [08:31]. He contends that such teachings undermine the foundational principles of freedom and merit in America [10:56].

4. Influence of Howard Zinn on American Education

Tim discusses Howard Zinn's impact on history education, stating that many teachers have been "spoon-fed anti-American propaganda" since the 1970s [13:13]. He laments that this has led to a generation of educators who are unaware of factual history, further perpetuating biased narratives [13:41]. Jack echoes this concern by recalling Harold Bloom’s frustration over identity politics infiltrating literature classes [10:56].

5. Autonomous Vehicles and Waymo's Technological Advancements

Briefly, Tim shares his excitement about visiting Waymo’s autonomous vehicle facility in Phoenix. He praises the technology’s safety features, stating, "These cars are so accurate they can drive in the narrowest spots and prevent accidents by stopping for red lights" [17:48]. Tim believes that autonomous vehicles have already saved "at least 10,000 lives" and expresses strong enthusiasm for their potential [19:29].

6. Valentine's Day: Emotional Impact and Childhood Memories

The hosts transition to discussing the emotional complexities of Valentine’s Day. Jack narrates a childhood story about "skunk cards," which were malicious Valentine’s Day cards given to unpopular children, leading to long-term emotional trauma [27:17]. He compares this to modern dating apps, highlighting the persistent issue of judgment and rejection in relationships [27:49]. The discussion underscores the psychological strain caused by societal expectations around love and relationships [29:03].

7. Sexual Health: Orgasms and Their Benefits

Jack introduces a study on the health benefits of orgasms, mentioning that "more than a quarter of men struggle to reach orgasm and 15% of women have never had one" [33:01]. The hosts humorously debate the validity and implications of these statistics, reflecting on the broader challenges of sexual health and satisfaction [34:07].

8. Government Bureaucracy and Recent Layoffs

The conversation shifts to the inefficiencies within the federal government, sparked by recent large-scale layoffs. Jack criticizes the protectionism in government jobs, noting, "After two years, you're basically unfirable" [41:00]. He contrasts this with the private sector, where job insecurity is a constant reality, arguing that such protections make public service less appealing and inefficient [35:23]. Jack cites David Axelrod’s remarks on government inefficiency, emphasizing the disconnect between public perception and bureaucratic realities [40:00].

Conclusion and Final Thoughts

As the episode wraps up, Jack reflects on the various topics discussed, from cultural critiques to personal anecdotes, highlighting the ongoing challenges in modern society. The hosts reiterate their appreciation for Tim's insights and humorously acknowledge their need to move past sensitive topics to wrap up the episode.

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Notable Quotes

• Jack Armstrong [02:26]: "Jack is the dumb one"
• Jack Armstrong [04:00]: "Playboy magazine is back. I do hope it succeeds. The anti-sex, anti intellectual culture of the past decade has got to be overturned."
• Tim Sandifer [07:03]: "ASU requires cultural sensitivity training that tells you white people should be ashamed for historical oppressions, which is illegal in Arizona."
• Tim Sandifer [08:31]: "DEI in its worst form says that the American Dream is a lie and that Western civilization advancements are at the expense of the exploitation of the masses."
• Tim Sandifer [17:48]: "These autonomous cars have saved at least 10,000 lives and I’m so enthusiastic about Waymo."
• Jack Armstrong [27:17]: "This is a day of let's single out who is perceived as the least attractive either in personality or looks."
• Jack Armstrong [33:01]: "More than a quarter of men struggle to reach orgasm and 15% of women have never had one."
• Jack Armstrong [41:00]: "After two years, you're basically unfirable in some cases."

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This episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand provides a thought-provoking exploration of cultural shifts, educational paradigms, technological advancements, and the emotional landscape surrounding Valentine's Day. Through engaging dialogue and insightful commentary, Jack Armstrong and guest Tim Sandifer offer listeners a critical lens on contemporary societal issues.

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That's pretty funny. Welcome to the Armstrong and Getty Show. Joe is off today. We've got a friend who we have as a guest regularly. He thinks Joe and I should alternate Fridays off because he likes the different feel of the show when one of us hosts and he says that we could each get a three day weekend every other week, and then the audience would get the unique version of one of us being on the air. I don't know, I think most of you probably rather we're both here all the time, but Joe is off because it's his big birthday week and he's taking the day off. And I had another point to make about that, but I can't remember what it was. Oh, we got a text yesterday saying if you're having trouble telling which one is which, Jack is the dumb one, so that's handy. That'll speed things up for you. I'd like to welcome to the Armstrong and Getty Show, Tim the lawyer. It's Tim Sandifer. He's the Vice President of Legal affairs at the Goldwater Institute. He's an adjunct scholar with the Cato Institute. Tim, what is an adjunct scholar?

[Joe Getty]

It means that I get my picture on their website, but I don't get any money from them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, so it's a cool name.

[Joe Getty]

Now, now, the idea of you of doing Fridays alternating, I don't like this idea. It's like Laurel without hard, it would be like Pen without Teller. It would be like salt without pepper. I don't. I don't think it works.

[Jack Armstrong]

Gotcha. So quickly, before we get to a couple other things to talk about, I wonder, I assume since you tweeted it out, you're willing to go on the record with this because you put it out there into the world. You tweeted. Playboy magazine is back. I do hope it succeeds. The anti sex, anti intellectual culture of the past decade has got to be overturned. Thought that was an interesting take from you.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

As our culture has decayed over the last several decades, Playboy magazine seems at a very high level of culture in our. By our current standards.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, well, what's happened? What I mean by the anti sex culture is things like the glorification of ugliness and the hatred of beauty, which has become such a pervasive tone, especially on the left, but also on the right. This idea of elevating ugliness and pretending that it's beautiful while at the same time denigrating things that actually are beautiful. And you find this in things like the Wokest attitude toward, you know, the so called male gaze and how we're all supposed to be ashamed of, you know, beautiful Victoria's Secret models. We can't have that, you know, anymore. We have to cancel those kinds of shows. And this is all rooted in the same philosophy that motivates the bad politics of today, which is this idea that equality is the same thing as justice, that equal outcomes is what justice demands. That's a perverse and false notion because of course there are no equal outcomes in all of the world. And therefore, if that's what you think justice requires, then you are perpetually at war with nature and you have to break down everything that is great in order to make it the equivalent of things that are not great. And that's been what's motivated everything from. Remember a few years ago, Playboy, before it went out of publication, they stopped running nude photos. They were playing along with this woke attitude that the male gaze is a bad thing. And if we're returning to a culture that celebrates beauty, including female beauty, I see that as a healthy development.

[Jack Armstrong]

And from the anti intellectual part of it, Playboy magazine, people used to always joke about I get Playboy magazine for the articles. Hahaha. No, I actually did look at boy, you can find naked girls lots of places. But they had great short stories and interviews and think pieces and stuff like that. And not to stand up for Playboy, but just in general, we need more of that.

[Joe Getty]

Yep, absolutely. Great writers and great thinkers and people I usually disagreed with, but they were worth reading. I mean, William F. Buckley wrote for Playboy magazine, for crying out loud, that this is we. I think this is a step, I hope it's a step toward adults coming back and actually running the culture instead of people who have no idea what they're talking.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't like our chances, Tim, but anyway, thanks for the hope. I'm looking at the headline Goldwater Institute, where you actually do get paid. Does the Arizona Constitution allow juryless trial by bureaucrats? It says here you're suing over DEI indoctrination requirements for professors also. What is that all about?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, so. Well, we're doing a case we filed some months ago against Arizona State University for illegally requiring their employees to undergo these, you know, cultural sensitivity, dei, whatever they call it, training programs that tell you that white people should be ashamed for the historical oppressions of the past and that to say nothing against racism is complicity. And all these sorts of these leftist indoctrination is actually illegal in Arizona. Some years ago we got a law passed in the State that prohibits the government from requiring employees to engage in training that is based on what the law calls race based blame judgment. And that is any training that says that you should feel bad because of what other people of your race have done in the past. And yet that is what ASU requires. Professors and other employees.

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Well, speaking of having, you know, higher level intellectual discussions, the whole DEI thing has gotten. Well, I should stop being on Twitter because, you know, it gives me a negative view of the world and how things can get watered down into where everything is called dei. But DEI in its worst form. Well, explain what DEI looks like in its worst form.

[Joe Getty]

Well, in its worst form, DEI says that what has made America great, to use the words of the 1619 project, what has made America great has been slavery and the oppression of minorities. That the whole idea of the American Dream is a lie, and that every great advancement that Western civilization has made has been at the expense of the exploitation of the huddled masses who have suffered under the evils of capitalism. It's just ordinary anti capitalism dressed up in a new outfit with, you know, wearing. Wearing tight jeans instead. And it's. And the problem with it is that America is the only country that has a dream. And if you're going to break down the American dream, you will destroy something absolutely essential to what makes America such a special place, precisely for immigrants and members of minority groups who don't have the kind of political influence to make it in countries where everything's run by the government. Freedom allows people to rise. It has always allowed people to rise. And we destroy something and do something really damaging to the greatness of America if we downplay that or act like it's a bad thing. And unfortunately, higher education in this country is totally oriented toward teaching young Americans that patriotism is a lie, that believing in the Declaration of Independence is foolhardy, that America was founded as a pro slavery nation, and that white supremacy, to quote TA Nehisi Coates, the darling of the left, the white supremacy is at the heart of American culture to this day. None of which is true. And yet impressionable minds are taught this, and professors are forced to undergo indoctrination in this idea so that people graduate from college now not knowing the basic facts of history, but having their brains full instead of loathing for America. And not only is that a travesty, but the Goldwater Institute has published a report just recently showing that about $2 billion a year are spent in higher education in this country on classes that teach this nonsense. $2 billion a year. Now, keep in mind, that does not count the amount of this nonsense that's smuggled into other classes. That's just counting classes devoted to teaching this anti American, anti white, anti capitalist, anti male propaganda.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm glad you brought that up because I was about to interject that Harold Bloom, before he died, he was like the great Shakespeare expert from Yale. I remember seeing him on Charlie Rose and him complaining that there's not a Shakespeare class you could take an America. And this was 10 years ago, 20 years ago, that didn't run all the Shakespeare plays through some sort of identity politics as part of the class where you just studied the literature.

[Joe Getty]

Or just take. Take your average. Let's take your average high school graduate. Ask a high school graduate, just randomly that you pick, ask what he knows about Thomas Jefferson. And what that person will know about Thomas Jefferson is that he had children with a slave. That's what that student will know about Thomas Jefferson. He might know that Jefferson was responsible for the Louisiana Purchase. And that's about it, you know, and that's a disgrace. It's not only a disgrace for just. For normal, patriotic cultural reasons, but it's a disgrace because it's based on a fundamental lie. The idea that America is at heart a racist nation, that the founders didn't mean all men are created equal, and that capitalism is built on this, and therefore capitalism too is tainted with evil. And that goes back to what we were talking about before, this base notion that equal outcomes is what justice requires, when that is not at all what justice requires. In fact, that is very frequently unjust. To impose equal outcomes when people deserve unequal rewards.

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Yeah, I'd say it's at least that. And I was going to make the point that you were quite a young man when you first started calling in as Tim the lawyer. And then we.

[Joe Getty]

I'm old and gray and grizzled, right? Not only gray, but almost blind in the service of my country. But the problem out there, you kids out there who don't know what that means, that's a sly reference to George Washington. He was the first president. Look it up.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which, yes, and the reason I brought that up was my concern that this stuff has been in the schools K through 12 and then on to college for so long, we may have already lost the battle. The people that are gonna run the country grew up with the only thing they knew about Thomas Jefferson was he, you know, fathered children with a slave girl. I mean, they're gonna take over soon and we'll be dead.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yes, absolutely. In fact, one of another project that we're working on at the Institute here is we're talking about the influence of the communist writer Howard Zinn on American history classes across the nation. He published a report about this. And we now have probably the second generation of teachers, right, your high school teachers who themselves never learned the facts of history because they were spoon fed anti American propaganda in their colleges.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Because their teachers were also spoon fed. I mean, you're talking about since at least the 1970s, right? So that's a half century where now you have teachers who don't. They honestly don't even realize they're teaching the propaganda because that's all they've ever known in their lives. So, yeah, it's a terrible thing, but there is no reason that we cannot fix it tomorrow if we chose to do so.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that. That is the point that I was making that we're so far into it. I want to hear about the fixing it part. If you can stick around for one more segment. We got Tim Sandifer. We'll be back with all this interesting stuff in just a couple of minutes.

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[Joe Getty]

Oh, it was the most amazing thing. These are truly autonomous, self driving cars that are all over Phoenix and I Got to see the facility and they actually served us lunch in the garage where the cars come in to get recharged. And these cars are driving in and finding parking spots for themselves. And you watch them and it looks exactly like me at the airport looking for a parking spot. I mean, they drive exactly like human beings would, except there are no scuff marks on any of the walls or anything because these cars are so accurate that they can drive in the narrowest little spots and not run into anything because they're so safe. And then after, after lunch, they let us take a ride in one. And it was just, it was breathtaking. The technology is so good. And I said to the guy, said, if this is even just all it has to be is slightly safer than a human driver. And that's not, that's not a lot. And, and they operate with all sorts. They operate with sonar, radar, lidar, video, all sorts of different things in order to be able to see what's going on. So that if a car, in fact, my wife just rode in one the other day, and if a car is going to run the red light, the car can see that and stop so that it doesn't get in the way and get hit by the human driver who's running the red light. This is going to make driving as safe as flying. And I said to the guy, they've been operating for a couple of years now. You have almost certainly saved at least 10,000 lives easily, right? Maybe, maybe 100,000 lives already in all the markets they've been operating. It is such a beautiful thing to see. I'm so enthusiastic about Waymo, and I just, I can't say enough about how blown away I am by this technology.

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I keep meaning when I'm in San Francisco to download the app and actually ride in one. I just haven't yet. Hey, we've only got a couple of minutes. Are you a fan of the Department of Education? Do you think it's necessary for the federal government to have that role?

[Joe Getty]

No, not only that, but it's very counterproductive, as you can see how much education has improved in the half century that we've had it. Right? No, this is not something that the federal government should be in charge of. It should be done at the local level, if at all. I mean, ideally it would be done at the city, at the individual level, where you get to choose what schools your own kids go to, instead of being mandated top down by bureaucrats in Washington, D.C. who have all the money that they've taken from you and that's so you have to obey their orders to get your own money back. No. It's a terrible thing and it should be a abolished.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah I want to keep hearing I keep asking for. Please make the argument for why we have 140% more mid level managers in schools while enrollment of students has only gone up 8% over the last 50 years.

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What's the argument for that by the Carter administration as a handout to teachers unions. And that's what it's always been ever since.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that's so frustrating. As a guy with kids in school we're about out of time and have to let you go. But Tim always appreciate you coming on your you're just so damned interesting whether I agree with you or not on the topic of the you know, the arguments you make. Just fascinating guy.

[Joe Getty]

Thanks much Jack. I'd love to do it again.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Tim Sandifer. And if you, if you don't follow his Twitter or read any of his books, I mean they're just really, really it's it my life is actually better for knowing Tim and being able to throw something at him every once in a while. Like what do you think of this? Or what's the argument for that? Or whatever. It's, it's, it's handy having smart friends when you're a dullard like myself. A dullard is an actual designation slightly below average intelligence. And that's what I, I believe I am. I'm a dullard. You can look it up. There's dullard, there's imbecile, moron. These are actually different categories of where your iq. I'm not, I'm not a moron or an imbecile. But I do think I'm a dullard. I'm on I'm south of the Mendoza line, whatever that is. Have a little more Valentine's Day stuff I need to get to because people continue to text about that story I told earlier. I hope your kids aren't going into the emotional Lord of the Flies that Valentine's Day used to be in grade school when I was a kid. I hope they're not dealing with that today. A lot more on the way. Stay here.

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So we had one texture say Valentine's Day or they as they refer to it as Single Awareness Day, Singles Awareness Day. There is, there's a certain truth to that. Told the story earlier because we're still getting tons of texts about this and all the related tangents to it. A little fourth grade girl who. This fourth grade boy has a crush on her. And on Valentine's Day at school. This is years ago back when they allowed this sort of thing to happen. My kids have gone through the modern Valentine's Day where you're only allowed to bring cards. They all have to be the same and no names. So it's just everybody gets the same thing, which on one hand isn't cruel, but on the other hand means nothing. So it's just a nothing. You might as well just skip it. Which might be the best plan. Actually it might be the best plan for little kids to just skip Valentine's Day and not, you know, have love and emotion and crushes and the most traumatic things you ever deal with in your life injected into the school.

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And then I brought up the idea that and Katie had never heard of this. Getting texts from people saying, oh my God, I'd completely forgotten about skunk Valentine's Day cards. Got a text from a woman who said, I always got the skunk cards on Valentine's Day. I, I didn't end up in prison though. But that somebody should do a documentary. Go back to Hallmark or whoever made these Valentine's Day card packages in the 70s and 80s. And if you bought a package of 50 Valentine's Day cards, there'd be a couple of skunks in there. And the idea was that you gave the skunks to the. Using my finger quotes because this is a horrible term but it's often used by grade schoolers. You gave the, the, the skunk cards to the ugly girls. Oh, it's just. And so it was a, it was a day of let's single out who is perceived as the least attractive either in personality or looks. Girl in the class. I mean just. You couldn't, you couldn't hardly manufacture a more cruel thing to do to a 10 year old girl.

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[Jack Armstrong]

But that's what happened in schools all across the country all the time. Anyway. Did I finish my story? So this little boy's got A crush on her in fourth grade shows up with a little bear flowers card. She throws it in the trash can in front of the whole class. He cries the rest of the class and ended up with a life of crime and in prison, which she.

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