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Armstrong and Getty. And now he's Armstrong and Getty. One thing is clear. We're all in for a lot of change in the months to come, and that includes British car maker Jaguar. Sales have been flagging for Jaguar, so they're trying a rebrand.
Jack Armstrong
First.
Joe Getty
They redid the logo. Here's the old one with the badass kitty cat. Here's the new one. Jaguar looks like a luxury condom brand in an Eastern Europe in an Eastern European dance club. Oh, don't worry, honey, baby.
Maddie
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Jack Armstrong
So that's Stephen Colbert reacting to the new Jaguar ad, which we will talk about here in a second. Here's a little more Colbert.
Joe Getty
Seriously, this video asks way more questions than it answers. Like, is the new Jaguar a yellow elevator that takes you to a fashion model planet made of pink dust? And if I have body hair, am I allowed on the Jaguar planet?
Jack Armstrong
Also, I have no idea what it.
Joe Getty
Means to create exuberant.
Jack Armstrong
If I have body hair, am I allowed on the Jaguar planet?
Joe Getty
Oh, the reason being, if you haven't actually seen it, maybe you've just seen parodies of it is the whole thing centers on these, like, luridly primary colorish, gender bending, shaved, transgender, gay, weirdly coiffed people moving in odd ways and wielding hammers and such. The hammers, of course, in lurid primary colors as well.
Jack Armstrong
No car, by the way. There is no car in the commercial whatsoever.
Joe Getty
Yeah, the whole theme is copy nothing, break the mold. And it was universally just hooted at, well, almost universal.
Jack Armstrong
If I have body hair, am I.
Joe Getty
Allowed to have a jack wire? Oh, that's funny because everybody is like shaved and freakish looking and it's obvious, you know, transgender Types reminiscent of the horrifying Olympics opening ceremony woke indoctrination thing. But anyway, I thought this so interesting. Malcolm Clark, who's a filmmaker, was writing about this, and he writes that it was so bonkers, it's tempting to assume it was a joke or an accident, but it wasn't. It represents the culmination of a campaign to groom a great British brand by the insane LGBTQ+ lobby. And he's talking about attitude, which is LGB, whatever. Alphabet soup magazine that reviewed the ad and said it was the best one of the year. And because Nigel Farage, the conservative politician Elon Musk, hated it, that proved it was genius. Elon Musk.
Jack Armstrong
Elon Musk tweeted out the ad and said, I'm selling my Jaguar and I don't even own one.
Joe Getty
So the roots of the ad campaign can be traced back to October 21, when Jaguar tried out bold primary colors and meaningless slogans and ads specifically for Attitude, the Alphabet Soup magazine slash website. Then the slogan was live loud. Hilariously, they claimed it was one of the top UK ads ever. And the LGBTQ lobby can always be relied on to rope in its mates to tell you anything you want to hear. Kantar, that's the company that declared it great, were themselves Alphabet Soup, Lotus eaters, whatever that matter means. It's Britishism. But their claims were music to Jaguars marketing director Anthony Bradbury, who said that LGBTQ would be the new focus for Jaguar. And evidently he wrote a fair amount about how it was going to become the new car of choice for your Alphabet Soup crowd. Keeping in mind that Jaguar Land Rover is the company, so they make the great Land Rovers as well. And so the CEO somehow got pulled into this way of thinking by his marketing director, and like, it's possible to do if you, like, spend all of your time on left wing Twitter. The CEO of this company became convinced that this was a great idea. They were going to go. Dylan Mulvaney.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I'm not sure. In 2024, I'm not sure this is a horrible idea. I don't know if it's gonna work. But as a guy in the advertising business, allegedly, if you could become the brand of the gay community, you know, in the way that I've known some gay people, if Madonna comes to town, it's considered like, your obligation to go to the Madonna concert or Melissa Etheridge. It's just something you have to do. The army, the gay army is going to go. And, I mean, if you could become that car brand where it's kind of your obligation to drive this kind of car. Yeah, it's a big difference between going to a concert and buying a car, obviously. And it's generally been a fairly expensive car throughout the years. I don't know, are they re. I don't know if they're remaking their cars and, or what they're going to look like or.
Joe Getty
Right, right. Well, here's the problem and that's that Jaguar got into bed, no pun intended, completely with this Attitudes magazine and website sponsored their awards show and all. The problem is that these people are your hardest core. Radical gender theory. J.K. rowling is evil and should be hounded down and mocked and doxed and the rest of it. Anybody who resists their agenda at all is a peddler of ha and blamed for trans deaths. And so they went like beyond Dylan Mulvaney with their, with their, their, their newfound partner. And it's just, it's, it's just a bad move. Now if you. I'm a fan of the term lgb, lesbian, gay, bi, whatever. That's a group of people with whom I got like no quarrel. Some of you have some biblical thing or whatever that I can respect that, that's fine. Just treat everybody civilly, please. When it gets into the freaking Alphabet soup portion of it, that's when I have a problem. And that's Jaguars problem. They got in bed thinking, oh, gay rights. I remember gay rights. No, this is radical gender theory. This is neo marxism postmodernism. This is little boys, adolescent males having their, their, their bodies mutilated. This is healthy young women afraid of puberty, getting their breasts cut off. This isn't gay, dudes.
Jack Armstrong
I know Jaguar was hurting. I don't know how bad maybe they were hurting to the point where like it was going to go away, so we might as well try something different. But I mean, for my life, Jaguar was like the go to. If you're like a 60 year old successful straight guy and you lost those people because no 60 year old successful straight guy is going to buy one of those now. So you cut all those people out. So you must have been thinking we're starting from scratch, I guess. See how it works?
Joe Getty
Yeah. Final note from Malcolm Clark, the guy who wrote all this talking about Style magazine, that has also been part of this whole thing. Style magazine was also awarded trans activist Dylan Mulvaney Woman of the Year, like whenever it was. And here's a quote. No matter how hard I try or what I wear, or what surgeries I have, I will never reach an acceptable version of womanhood by those hateful people's standards. True that Dylan. Malcolm Clark. That's exactly right. You can't become a woman, you're a man.
Jack Armstrong
Did you see. So I tweeted this out with the Volvo ad. Did you see the Volvo ad that got attention to. Because it came out the same week?
Joe Getty
I don't think so.
Jack Armstrong
It's a three minute plus ad made by some Oscar winning director, I don't remember who. And it's pretty over the top. Although it was very well done and touching. It was this couple and I mean it's, it's like a modern movie. It's, it's, it's quite a three minutes. It's flashbacks cut to where they meet and dating and getting together and deciding to have kids and blah, blah, blah. And go through all the kids and at the end there's a, there's a car wreck out of nowhere and they're in a safe car and so their kid's okay. But it's, I mean it's a pretty, it's a pretty compelling ad. It, maybe it's, you know, anytime there's a sales pitch attached to one of those, you always feel like. I don't know if I like this particular part of my emotions, which I agree with all the stuff you just had. Kids, love, marriage, commitment, the meaning of life. I don't like it when there's a. So buy this at the end.
Joe Getty
You're going to borrow that to buy a car. Yeah, that's not.
Jack Armstrong
But it's a really well done ad. It makes more sense than the Can I buy one of these if I have any body hair ad.
Joe Getty
Yeah, well, I can't drive or buy a Volvo because it's, I'm uncomfortable saying the word. It's too close to lady parts.
Jack Armstrong
It is very close.
Joe Getty
Yeah, it is very close. Sorry, Volvo, Change your name.
Jack Armstrong
It'll be interesting to watch to see if they get any traction. I have a feeling that similar to Bud Light, they're going to be abandoning this like within days.
Joe Getty
Yes.
Jack Armstrong
Of its debut. Realizing we've made a tragic mistake and like spend the rest of their lives trying to crawl, claw back anything they lost.
Joe Getty
Right. That's why. Awareness. Which is why I'm so into raising awareness. It's like in the wake of the George Floyd thing and Black Lives Matter, all these corporate people, education people, well meaning people thought, I'm not a racist. I'm not in favor of cops kneeling on people's necks. So I must be down with Black Lives Matter. No they're, they're Neo Marxist lunatics. Of course, Black Lives Matter is a statement, is perfectly true, but the organization is crazy. And, you know, the whole Alphabet soup crew, all these people are thinking, I got nothing against gay people. I guess I'm down with that. No, that's postmodern Neo Marxist lunacy that's damaging kids all over the planet. Speaking of which, final note, did you see San Jose State lost in the finals of the Mountain West Volleyball Championships to Colorado? That had to be a real kick in the balls to the women on the San Jose State team.
Jack Armstrong
Well, I. Yeah, so I followed this a little over the weekend. I was kind of excited. I was hoping that they would win. Cause that would have given him the automatic birth of the NCAA tournament. And then the NCAA would have had to figure their rules out. I mean, they would, I think, just had to deal with it at that point. So I think the NCAA was hoping that they would lose. They made it to the finals.
Joe Getty
They've got a dude on the team. We. We kind of skipped the lead. In case you're not familiar with this.
Jack Armstrong
Story, San Jose State made it to the finals with their dude on their team because of a forfeit. And then I thought, okay, when Colorado State decided to play, I thought, you know, am I for this or against this? Because I can understand you get a chance to play in the finals and go to the NCAA tournament. And these girls have worked their whole lives. And this is my. For the seniors, this is the culmination of their career, blah, blah, blah, blah. A whole bunch of their players, including their star player, best player in the tournament, knelt for the national anthem because they hate America for some reason. So who do you root for in that match? But San Jose State loss, and that's, that's the end of that person's career.
Joe Getty
Boise State, for what it's worth, pulled out instead of playing after already boycotting the regular season matches with San Jose State twice before, they said, no, we're not going to play him in the tournament either. There's a dude on their team. Good for you.
Jack Armstrong
Boise State, I would assume, like they did in the past, they let the players vote because in the past, the players had devoted to. That's a tough one, though. You only get to do those sports. You're never going to do it again.
Joe Getty
Yeah, of course, you catch a ball in the face when a dude pounds it into your mush at 80 miles per hour. That's. That's uncomfortable.
Jack Armstrong
Or you think, you know, I might have daughters someday and I don't want them playing against guys, so you take a step.
Joe Getty
That's why I congratulate them for their courage. They made a sacrifice.
Jack Armstrong
Well, and then the freaking. On one side, you got a dude playing on the girls team. On the other side, they're kneeling for the national anthem. They've besmirched women's volleyball.
Joe Getty
It is time to tear down our universities to the studs. Oh, God.
Jack Armstrong
No kidding. More on the way.
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Right. And only an idiot would not know that. How do you not know that?
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Leave your watch on. Okay? Last guy made me take it off, so I don't know.
Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
You probably heard this already. Wish we could have been the first, to break the story to you, but the tech billionaire that paid $6 million plus for the banana taped to the wall ate the banana. This story had multiple legs while we were on vacation. First, the fruit vendor, who's barely scraping by in life, working outside of that art museum, who sold the banana to the artist who then got $6 million for it, was horrified, and then somehow was portrayed in the press that, like, somehow he had been wronged, which I found interesting. How does that work? That this poor guy deserved some of the $6 million? Because, I mean, they can present a humble working man who's only trying to get by with two kids at home and blah, blah, blah, and selling fruit, barely making more than. Okay, fine, but how does he deserve some of the $6 million that some idiot paid for this work? Art, I'm not connecting the dots here, all right?
Joe Getty
You got two things going on there. First of all, a desperate attempt to find a victimized story to sell for clicks. Right? And secondly, an effort to impose some sort of mathematical rigor to the concept of somebody paying $6 million for banana tape to a wall.
Jack Armstrong
Well, even if it does not flow logically, even if it was real art, whoever sold Michelangelo the paint doesn't deserve a cut of his, you know, half a billion dollar work of art. That's just never the way it worked. But then the tech billionaire, because he's a smarty pants, bought the thing and then peeled it off the wall and ate it and then posted the video. Bunch of clicks. And yay for you, dude. Yay for you. The whole thing is annoying.
Joe Getty
Yes. Yes, it is. And. And. And difficult to understand. I mean, if I had more money than I could possibly use, I might think, you know what would be funny? But then I wouldn't go through with it.
Jack Armstrong
I would give it to charity, Right? Yeah. No kidding.
Joe Getty
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Any.
Mike Bagley
Possibility that the President would end up pardoning his son?
Jack Armstrong
No.
Joe Getty
Well, is there.
Jack Armstrong
I just said no.
Mike Bagley
I just answered.
Jack Armstrong
Go ahead. Will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict, no matter what it is?
Joe Getty
Yes.
Jack Armstrong
And have you ruled out a pardon for your son?
Joe Getty
Yes. I'm extremely proud of my son Hunter. I'm not going to do anything. I said I abide by the jury decision. I will do that and I will not pardon.
Mike Bagley
Does the President have any intention of pardoning him?
Jack Armstrong
We've been asked that question multiple times.
Mike Bagley
Our answer stands, which is no.
Joe Getty
President Biden says that he's not going to pardon his son Hunter.
Jack Armstrong
Is he going to ask Donald Trump to do that?
Mike Bagley
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Jack Armstrong
I've been very clear.
Mike Bagley
The President's been very clear when we've been asked this question.
Jack Armstrong
So that's the last weeks and months when KJP or anybody in the attached to the White House was ever asked about the possibility of partnering pardoning Hunter Biden, even though I think we all assumed that he would get pardoned by his dad because most of us fear a parent and we thought our kid had their act together. I mean, I mean, we heard the.
Joe Getty
Decedent in chief himself making that same vow.
Jack Armstrong
If, if, if my kid were still, you know, a mess and committing crimes, I wouldn't pardon. But, but, I mean, but, but if, you know, I thought they had direct and I have the way I, I can keep them out of prison and my grandkids dad out of prison. Yeah, I'd probably do it.
Joe Getty
Yeah. What?
Jack Armstrong
There are going to be a lot of political ramifications from this. No doubt about it.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Want to get to that. I am reminded of my own prediction of how this would be handled and how I still think it would have been so much better. Just so you know, Biden explains in excruciating, near hilariously unintentional detail how Hunter was treated so unfairly and singled out, which is of course the opposite of the truth. And he, he Joe is taking a terrific beating from most sides for the utterly warped, dishonest illogic of his statement, which I'll read to you in a second. I do not get why he didn't craft something a fairly short saying, my son was an addict, he screwed up, his life was a mess, he committed some crimes. I love him, I'm his dad. I'm going to pardon him because he's my son. And just be honest. I'm pardoning him because he's my son and I love him and I can period. And then announce some sort of program or even proposed legislation that you know, won't pass before Congress. The Helping Former Addicts with Tax Problems act or something. Broaden it, make it a gesture toward hey, people screw up, we ought to have a little mercy just as window dressing. But no, instead he goes with this. This long letter that it's worth mentioning, clears Hunter and pardons him of all crimes, those discovered and as yet undiscovered from January 2014 through December 1, 2024, virtually 15 full years, including the period of which starting in 2014, was on the board of directors of Burisma, raking in millions of dollars of money that was soon laundered, in my opinion.
Jack Armstrong
So he'll never have to be questioned over how you made your money and where it went.
Joe Getty
Well, he certainly can't be prosecuted for it. And if you can't be prosecuted for it, what club, what cudgel are you going to use to convince him to talk, to speak under oath? You won't. He'll never say a word. Uh, I will. Let me quote some of this. Uh, he, he talks about the gun charge and how it's very rarely charged. And those who are late paying their taxes because of serious addictions, but paid them back subsequently with interest and penalties are typically given non criminal resolutions. It's clear that Hunter was treated differently.
Jack Armstrong
And of course that whole thing is he ran into a rich guy at a party or a fundraiser who is willing to bail him out for who knows what reasons. But that's another. That's another. If you're connected and wealthy, you get, you have a different life than people who aren't.
Joe Getty
Right. And the idea that he was singled out and treated especially because he's Hunter Biden, is the opposite of what is true. I was just rereading the details about that unholy secret plea agreement that the judge threw out. How they not only gave him immunity for all sins, real and imagined, over a 10 year period, just like this does, which is Utterly, wildly out of bounds in a deal for a gun charge and a handful of tax offenses. You wouldn't give a guy immunity for everything. It just, it doesn't happen. And secondly, the fact, and I'd forgotten this momentarily, they hid the pardon and, well, the immunity from the tax charges in one of the obscure paragraphs of the deal for the gun charge, which is, as the judge pointed out, something that's never been done before and will never be done again. But here's the part that I know, Jack, you wanna talk about that politically will be damaging going forward. Uh, he Biden says, today I signed a pardon for my son, Hunter. From the day I took office, I said I would not interfere with the Justice Department's decision making. And I kept my word, even as I have watched my son being selectively unaff. Fairly prosecuted. The charges in this case came about only after several of my political opponents in Congress instigated them to attack me and oppose my election. Now, the Justice Department instigated them in the IRS instigated them. Then a carefully negotiated plea deal agreed to by the Department of Justice. Yours unraveled in the courtroom. Yeah. Cause it was utterly corrupt. Had the plea deal held, it would have been a fair, reasonable resolution of Hunter's cases. Says no one except you. Uh, then he. So essentially that the Department of Justice is crooked and so he's gotta let Hunter off. For my entire career, I have followed a simple principle. Just tell the American people the truth, they'll be fair minded to that. A joke that is.
Jack Armstrong
Well, to that NBC reporting today, the President has discussed pardoning his son with some of his closest aides, at least since Hunter Biden's conviction in June. Said two people with direct knowledge of discussions about the. The matter, they said it was decided at the time that he would publicly say he would not pardon his son, even though doing so remained on the table. So that's just flat out reporting by NBC that they were going out there and lying and trying to figure out, you know, when and how to do the pardon.
Joe Getty
Well, if we had more staff and more time, we'd dig up a tape. I'm sure of when you said, you think he's going to pardon Hunter? And I'd say, oh, yeah, he'll deny it until the last minute. Then pardon him 100%. Sure enough.
Jack Armstrong
So Trump is coming into office talking about a corrupt Justice Department that gets bent by politics. And there was a lot of pushback against that over the last couple of weeks. And now Joe Biden puts out a letter where he basically says the Justice Department is crooked and gets bent by politics. So obviously that helps Trump with anything he's going to do in the future. It also helps Trump with any pardons that he lays out on, whether it's January 6th, hostages, to use Trump's word, or anybody else where he can say, look, politics got involved. I mean that, no doubt. It's, it softens the. What's the right phrase? Something lays out the landscape in such a way that it's easier for Trump to make that argument now.
Joe Getty
Right. Well, and I hate to speak as an American because it's all about partisanship these days, but I also think all of this lays the groundwork for saying, hey, how politicized is the Justice Department and what can we do about it?
Jack Armstrong
Right. Well, having both presidents say it's not on the up and up is not good for people's respect for the Justice Department, no doubt. To that point, we have new news. KJP was at the podium today in her final couple of months here of speaking for the White House of Joe Biden and was asked about the pardon. I haven't heard this yet. You have said repeatedly yourself since the election.
Joe Getty
The president has said for months no pardon was coming.
Jack Armstrong
I just, I wanted to ask you.
Maddie
Could those statements now be seen as.
Jack Armstrong
Lies from the American people? Is there really a credibility issue here.
Joe Getty
Given now this announcement?
Mike Bagley
First of all, one of the things that the president always believes is to be truthful to the American people.
Joe Getty
That is something that he always truly believes.
Mike Bagley
And if you see the end of his, I assume that you've read his statement and you look at the end of that statement and he actually says that in the first line in the last paragraph and respects the thinking and how the American people will actually see this in his decision making. And I would encourage everyone to read in full the president's statement. I think he lays out his thought process. He lays out how he came to this decision.
Joe Getty
He came to this decision this weekend.
Mike Bagley
So let's be very clear about that. He says it himself.
Joe Getty
It's in his voice.
Mike Bagley
He said he came to this decision this weekend and he said he wrestled with this and because he believes in the justice system. But he also believes that the war politics infected the process and led to a miscarriage of justice.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know why they keep conducting these interviews in the midst of their.
Joe Getty
Skydiving, but they do in a wind tunnel.
Jack Armstrong
So that's interesting. That's got to be rough for her when NBC is reporting that they'd Made the decision, but decided to say out loud that they were, you know, I mean, stating the opposite of what she's saying. So she also says. I've got the transcript here, and this is pretty interesting. Jean Pierre fielded fiery questions aboard Air Force One from journalists, blah, blah, blah. Oh, that's right. Biden's going to Angola, so he's going to be gone for days. So he drops this pardon and leaves the country. A classic. President's been doing that forever. The president took an action because of how politically infected these cases were. Okay, a reporter pressed. The system doesn't get corrupted by politics. Whose people. Let me get this right, because this is important. The system doesn't get corrupted by politics for people whose name is not Biden. Oh, you're twisting and misrepresenting what I'm saying. I'm talking about a particular issue right now, Jean Pierre. The journalists obviously making the point. Okay, so when Trump says they're just doing this for politics, that's clearly wrong. But when President Biden says this was only because of politics, that makes sense. Yes. Okay. All right. Obviously, that does not pass any. Anybody's smell test.
Joe Getty
Well, little kjp, who defends the indefensible on a daily basis and has lasted far longer in her job than I expected her to, is just, you know, one last hurrah of trying to mumble through a bunch of convoluted bull crap to defend the indefensible. I do want to mention this very quickly as KJP reset it. The first paragraph or the first sentence in the last paragraph of the president's statement. For my entire career, I have followed a simple principle. Just tell the American people the truth, the way he told us the truth about the full academic law school scholarship is the only one to have a scholarship. Graduated top of his class. Won the international Moot Court competition, graduating with 33 degrees. Beau died in Iraq. Joe is a civil rights warrior. He's been to Iraq 40 times. He fought corn pop and wrapped a chain around his neck. He was appointed to the Naval Academy. Arrested with Nelson Mandela. He was a truck driver. His house burned down. He was raised in a Puerto Rican community. Visited the Tree of Life Synagogue. He Traveled on Amtrak 3.7 million miles. Full professor at UPenn. Great grandpa was a coal miner. Uncle was eaten by cannibals. His stats at the Congressional baseball game. He was a football star. Shout out overseas. First to graduate college in his family. Arrested at civil rights protests. Been to China that X number of times. Meeting with Xi Jinping. And his family was killed by a drunk driver. And Corn Pop was a bad dude. For my entire career, I have followed a simple principle. Just tell the American people the truth.
Jack Armstrong
So that clip we played came from this question journalists ask. Does the president believe now and agree with President Trump that the justice system has been weaponized for political purposes and it needs a root and branch reform? That's a damn good question. No, read the president's statement. Seriously, read a statement. He said he believes in the Department of Justice. He also believes that war politics infected the process and led it to a miscarriage of justice. Okay, those two sentences can't go together.
Joe Getty
Well, they don't sit comfortably together. Hmm. It's like when you and your buddy get squeezed under the couch during Thanksgiving and you're like, wow, dude, this is weird. Yeah, you can't. Sentences don't get along.
Jack Armstrong
You can't say that one and then say that one.
Joe Getty
I believe in the Justice Department, which has become completely perverted with politics.
Jack Armstrong
You mentioning that I got squeezed on the plane. I was on a nonstop flight clear across half the country. Three and a half hours. And the guy sitting in the middle row, I had an aisle row, hoping that nobody would sit there. Hoping, like, right at the end, he walks in with shoulders as wide as two men. So I was pushed out into the aisle. I mean, there was no other way to sit unless I was going to, like, sit way forward and rest my elbows on my knees for three and a half hours. If I sat up straight. His shoulders pushed me out, and the air waitress kept coming by and tapping on the shoulder. I need you to move in. You can't be blocking the aisle. Warren, what am I supposed to do? Like, dislocate my bones like some sort of magician?
Joe Getty
Did you ask her?
Jack Armstrong
No. I should have said something. I was just so annoyed.
Joe Getty
Mountain over here is taking up a.
Jack Armstrong
Seat and a half.
Joe Getty
What do you want me to do? No offense, buddy.
Jack Armstrong
And then the woman on the other side of him took her shoes off. I Both flights, there and back, people next to me had their shoes off. You people are disgusting and you should be put in prison. Speaking of the Justice Department.
Joe Getty
Wow. Wow. It appears Jack's anger has infected the justice system. Kjp, any comments?
Jack Armstrong
We will finish strong Next, Armstrong and Getty.
Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
That's up more than 10% from a year ago.
Mike Bagley
Strong sales of toys, jewelry and appliances helped drive that growth.
Jack Armstrong
And Adobe predicts online sales on Cyber.
Mike Bagley
Monday will be even bigger than Friday's.
Jack Armstrong
And that's for people buying online. I was at the local outlet mall yesterday. It was the busiest I've ever seen it. I've been going there for 25 years. It was insane how busy it was. People inside the store. Once I finally found a place to park, I told the kids, we're leaving. I said, I can't park. I dropped them off, was going to go find a parking spot. I text him and said, come on out. I can't park. We're going home. I can't put up with this. Then we found a spot on the way out and we end up saying so I asked the retailers, they said it's been nuts for three days. So I don't know what's going on there. I know it's anecdotal. It's one spot. But we also just heard that that sales are up 10% is a pretty big jump year to year.
Joe Getty
It is. And last year was pretty thoroughly post Covid. Everybody still had their, their, their stimmy money. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Cause I remember last year it was all, this is all the pent up after Covid, blah blah, blah. And we're up 10% from that. So what's going on? We all feeling rich?
Joe Getty
It's the haves and have nots, Jack, from what I understand. Although where that line is drawn, I don't know. Similar story yet. A big outlet mall closer to my house. It was just there are people parking on the streets, like parking illegally, just hoping they didn't get towed for a chance to snatch up some of America's consumer goods. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
That are going to be available tomorrow or next week also at that price or lower if they don't sell them. So I don't know what drives that exactly. Some of you enjoy shopping. I'm not one of you.
Joe Getty
I enjoy buying.
Jack Armstrong
I enjoy buying, too, but I. The waiting in line and parking and everybody squeezed together. Oh, it was horrifying. Check your clock.
Maddie
It's time to stop. Jack and Joe, they've got to go.
Joe Getty
And if they don't, you can. They'll Be back tomorrow.
Jack Armstrong
Here's your host for Final Thoughts. First time back after a week's vacation, Joe Getty.
Joe Getty
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the show. There he is. Michelangelo, pressing the buttons. Michaelowicz. Finally, final thought.
Jack Armstrong
I hope I haven't been too rude with you guys.
Joe Getty
I'm just a little irritated because I go pick up my mom and my brother. They're sitting outside of best buy since 2am in a tent. All because it's Cyber Monday.
Jack Armstrong
Really? To get what, a cheap DVD player? There you go.
Joe Getty
Okay, I thought Cyber Monday, you're supposed to shop online. Well, who am I to question Katie Greener, esteemed newswoman? As a final thought, Katie, I was.
Mike Bagley
Invited to go Black Friday shopping. To which I said a big hell no.
Jack Armstrong
Right?
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah. Jack, a final thought for us.
Jack Armstrong
Maybe the highlight to my week off. We went for a walk after Thanksgiving dinner. Me, Henry, my son and my dad went for a good long walk.
Joe Getty
My dad's 87.
Jack Armstrong
Going for a long walk after Thanksgiving dinner. You're lucky to live to 87, let alone be able to go for long walks at full speed.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Boy, I have so many final thoughts. It's Jack's mom's birthday today. My daughter Kate so celebrated her birthday yesterday. One of the sweetest, kindest, bravest people I've ever met in my life. Happy birthday, Kate. Also, I beat my brother in golf when he was here visiting, and that is fairly rare. He's ridiculous. He would be under the ocean in a submarine for six months, pop up, grab his clubs, blow the dust off, shoot a 74, then go back under the ocean, cackling to himself that he'd beat me. I finally got my vengeance. Armstrong.
Jack Armstrong
Vengeance is what the holidays is all about. Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.
Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
See you tomorrow. God bless America.
Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
What the hell was that?
Joe Getty
That was quite entertaining.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, no joke.
Maddie
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Jack Armstrong
Modern fortunes are not fortunes at all.
Joe Getty
No, they're terrible.
Jack Armstrong
Yes. Michael didn't say I peed in your rice.
Mike Bagley
It was handwritten and on that possibly nightmare inducing note.
Joe Getty
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Maddie
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Armstrong & Getty On Demand: Vengeance Is What The Holidays Are All About
Release Date: December 2, 2024
Host: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Publisher: iHeartPodcasts
In the December 2, 2024 episode of "Armstrong & Getty On Demand," hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve into a variety of topics ranging from corporate rebranding missteps to high-stakes political maneuvers. The episode, aptly titled "Vengeance Is What The Holidays Are All About," encapsulates the hosts' characteristic blend of humor, sharp critique, and personal anecdotes, all framed within the holiday season's backdrop.
One of the episode's primary discussions centers on the British luxury carmaker Jaguar's recent rebranding efforts. Both hosts express strong opinions about Jaguar's new advertising strategy, which has sparked widespread criticism.
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The hosts argue that Jaguar's attempt to align with progressive social movements may alienate its traditional customer base without effectively capturing the intended new demographic. They suggest that the company's pivot towards "radical gender theory" and broader LGBTQ+ themes has muddled its brand identity, leading to consumer confusion and backlash.
Transitioning from corporate critique to sports, Armstrong and Getty discuss the recent Mountain West Volleyball Championships, particularly focusing on the controversy surrounding San Jose State's team composition.
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The discussion underscores the tension between promoting inclusivity and maintaining competitive fairness in collegiate sports, reflecting broader societal debates on gender and participation.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing President Joe Biden's decision to pardon his son, Hunter Biden. Armstrong and Getty offer a critical perspective on the implications of this move.
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The hosts contend that the pardon undermines the rule of law and sets a dangerous precedent for political favors, potentially destabilizing public confidence in governmental institutions.
Shifting focus to consumer behavior, Armstrong and Getty share their personal experiences with Black Friday and Cyber Monday shopping, juxtaposing them with national sales trends.
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The conversation reflects broader themes of consumerism and the lengths to which individuals will go to capitalize on holiday sales, often at the expense of their well-being and patience.
A brief segment touches upon a bizarre incident involving a $6 million banana taped to a museum wall, which was subsequently eaten by a tech billionaire.
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This segment serves as a satirical commentary on the art world's perceived disconnect from common sense and the commercialization of creativity.
In the episode's concluding moments, Armstrong and Getty share personal stories and reflections, maintaining their trademark blend of humor and candidness.
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These closing remarks reinforce the show's connection with its audience, providing relatable content amidst the broader discussions.
"Vengeance Is What The Holidays Are All About" offers listeners a multifaceted conversation that navigates through corporate missteps, political controversies, and personal tales. Armstrong and Getty effectively balance serious critique with lighthearted banter, making the episode both informative and entertaining. Notable for their incisive commentary and engaging storytelling, the hosts provide valuable insights into contemporary issues while maintaining an approachable and relatable demeanor.
For those seeking a blend of sharp analysis and personable dialogue, this episode of "Armstrong & Getty On Demand" stands out as a compelling listen during the holiday season.