Wake Up & Smell The Cold Coffee

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: Wake Up & Smell The Cold Coffee
Date: August 18, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on major shifts in U.S. and European engagement with the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war, the international political spectacle swirling around peace negotiations, and the uncomfortable realities facing Ukraine. Armstrong & Getty also touch on cultural shifts in America, from decreasing alcohol consumption to the ubiquity of background music, and close with personal stories and a tongue-in-cheek look at recent headlines.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Declining Alcohol Consumption in America

Timestamp: [03:36]–[05:13]

• Joe Getty highlights a Gallup poll showing only 54% of American adults say they consume alcohol, the lowest in 90 years.
• The hosts puzzle over why, considering current levels of societal stress and "more turmoil than the past."
  • Jack Armstrong: “You compare it with where we are emotionally, it seems like people are less happy, more angry... and we’re drinking less?” [04:21]
• Getty posits that newer substances and changing habits among the young contribute, but no clear answer emerges.

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2. Russia-Ukraine Peace Maneuvering & Global Power Politics

Timestamp: [05:13]–[16:51], [27:46]–[34:56], [44:44]–[49:18]

Recent Developments & Reactions

• Jack and Joe review the previous Friday’s meeting: Trump’s pageantry with Putin (the “warm handshake and the red carpet”) and the lack of concrete outcomes.
  • Armstrong: “I personally hated the warm handshake and the red carpet...” [05:41]
• Expectations were "unrealistically high" for tangible results, setting the stage for lengthy negotiations.

Trump’s Position and Statements

• Trump released a statement on Truth Social, suggesting Zelensky could "end the war immediately if he wants to"—interpreted by Jack and Joe as implying Ukraine should just surrender.
  • Getty, critically: “In the same way that every victim of an aggressor can end it... by surrendering, by letting the aggressor have what they want.” [07:41]
  • Armstrong (sarcastically): “Let them rape you, let them steal from you, whatever it’s going to be, right?” [07:51]
• Joe Getty wonders why Trump never makes the same demand of Putin: "Hey, Putin, you could end the fighting right now. Why don't you?" [07:55]

American & European Posturing

• Marco Rubio’s realism (quoted and referenced repeatedly): the war ends only with ugly trade-offs, because "Russia doesn’t care how many of its soldiers die" and will only accept a peace agreement if they get more than what they've already taken. [15:09]–[15:41]
  • Rubio (aired clip): “What it’s going to take to stop the fighting... both sides are going to have to give, and both sides should expect to get something from this.”
• Armstrong notes European leaders, rhetorically tough, often come up short on substantive support:
  • Jack: “Italy just isn’t a strong enough country. She’s kind of talking big with Germany’s money or the United States’s weapons.” [10:36]–[11:15]
  • Getty: “Seriously, what’s Italy going to do, sweetheart?” [11:15]
• Joe remains pessimistic about the West’s real willingness to challenge Putin: “This whole time Putin might have been calculating...NATO isn’t going to go to war with Russia to protect Ukraine. The end.” [12:58]
• Armstrong: “It’s so hard to break out of the headspace of what’s right and what’s wrong sometimes and just settle into what is... But who’s gonna stop him? Are you gonna stop him? Well, then shut up if you’re not.” [16:21]

Ceasefire, Peace Guarantees, and Symbolic Gestures

• Reported details on potential peace deals include territorial concessions, language rights, and whether the West will grant robust security guarantees.
  • Getty: “Probably Satan is in the details, friends...” [32:46]
• Pageantry and optics dominate: Zelensky’s attire (military fatigues vs. suit) discussed as a symbol of submission or defiance.
  • Jack: “If you show up in the suit, it is a hundred percent, I do what you want me to do. On your terms.” [45:31]

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3. Trump’s Boastful Social Media Posts & the “Not Our War” Argument

Timestamp: [29:24]–[34:56]

• Trump claims solo credit for resolving multiple global conflicts and stresses the Ukraine war wouldn't have happened if he were President.
  • Armstrong (paraphrased Trump): “‘It would never have happened if I was President. I know what I’m doing...’” [29:24]
• Rubio and others make the case: this is not “our” war and “won’t affect Americans’ lives.”
  • Getty: “That’s been made several times throughout history—World War I and World War II in particular.” [30:43]

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4. Background Music in Public Spaces & Changing Norms

Timestamp: [20:32]–[23:38]

• Armstrong questions why constant background music is now universal in restaurants and other venues, while Getty notes even golf courses have embraced it.
  • Jack: “Who’s the first [restaurant] to decide that and why?” [21:26]
  • Getty: “I’m in a weird minority in the world of golf. Having a speaker in the cart, listening to music the whole way around the golf course... I don’t like it, but I’m in the minority.” [21:54, 22:20]
• The pair express nostalgia for quiet and question if the trend is driven by a need for constant stimulation.

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5. Personal Story: Emergency Vet Trip

Timestamp: [37:03]–[40:48]

• Armstrong recounts his late-night ordeal when his son noticed their pug’s face and neck were swollen, likely from a bee sting.
  • Hilarity about distinguishing when a dog has “collapsed” if they spend all day lying down. [38:12]
  • Armstrong resists expensive tests: “I just said no to all the tests after they declared he’s probably okay… If you ever walk out [of the vet] with a $5000 bill, I just said no… Some concern, but… everything’s fine.” [39:14]
  • Getty shares a similar story: his sister’s dog had an abscessed tooth, not a bee sting. [40:41]

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6. Crime and Policing in Washington, D.C.

Timestamp: [34:56]–[37:03]

• Crime in D.C. is acknowledged as a persistent, worsening issue, despite early pushback against Trump’s criticisms.
  • Jack: “More and more voices are conceding that he was right about the crime in Washington, D.C.” [34:56]
• Getty notes stat-fudging by police and the debate over federal and local responsibilities in policing D.C.

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7. Zelensky’s Symbolism & Melania Trump’s Letter to Putin

Timestamp: [44:44]–[49:18]

• Hosts speculate on whether Zelensky will wear a suit at the White House meeting as potential symbolism (submission vs. solidarity).
  • Jack: “If you show up in the suit, it is a hundred percent, I do what you want me to do. On your terms.” [45:31]
• Discussion about Melania Trump’s letter to Putin asking for peace for sake of the children.
  • Joe Getty (skeptical): “Why don't you just write a letter to dogs and ask them to stop barking? … It’s a lovely impulse. And she seems like a lovely gal.” [46:20]
  • Jack: “I'm trying to pick somebody else. I hate to use Hitler... Would make me look silly, right?” [47:08]
  • Final take: Melania’s letter served to highlight Russia’s abduction of children, a story undercovered in the media. [48:43]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Armstrong: “Wake up and smell the cold coffee.” [13:25]
• Getty: “This whole time Putin might have been calculating on the fact that if it came down to it, NATO isn't going to go to war with Russia to protect Ukraine. The end.” [12:58]
• Armstrong: “Let them rape you, let them steal from you... That’s what he’s saying, right?” [07:51]
• Rubio (quoted): “What it’s going to take to stop the fighting... both sides are going to have to give, and both sides should expect to get something from this.” [15:09]
• Getty: “Russia’s a midget with one giant muscular arm—as I’ve said before, their nuclear armaments.” [29:01]
• Joe Getty (about Melania Trump’s letter): “It’s a lovely impulse… but… it’s a complete idiotic waste of time in another way.” [46:20]
• Armstrong (pug story): “Collapses is difficult, difficult with a dog because they spend... they spend a lot of time just lying about. So what does a collapse look like when you spend 90% of your life lying there?” [38:12]

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Decline in Alcohol Consumption: [03:36]–[05:13]
• Russia-Ukraine War, Peace Talks, and Trump’s Statements: [05:13]–[16:51], [27:46]–[34:56], [44:44]–[49:18]
• European Leaders’ Rhetoric vs. Reality: [10:36]–[11:15]
• Ubiquitous Background Music: [20:32]–[23:38]
• D.C. Crime & Policing: [34:56]–[37:03]
• Emergency Vet Story: [37:03]–[40:48]
• Zelensky’s Military Attire & Symbolism: [44:44]–[46:15]
• Melania's Letter to Putin: [45:54]–[49:18]

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Tone & Style

The conversation is marked by the duo’s trademark blend of sharp humor, potent skepticism, and punchy, colloquial exchanges. The tone is often sardonic, especially when parsing international politics or highlighting the absurdities of modern American life.

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Final Thoughts & Sign-Offs

• The episode closes with playful “final thoughts” round-robin:
  • Armstrong: theorizes Melania Trump’s letter is mainly to draw attention to Russian abductions of children rather than actually persuade Putin. [48:43]
  • The hosts agree more news will break and promise updates, especially on the “suit vs. fatigues” drama and actual results from the high-profile international meetings.

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Summary Conclusion

This episode offers a whirlwind tour through the moral and practical murkiness of contemporary geopolitics, driving home the brutal realities facing Ukraine and the limits of Western posturing. Alongside news analysis, Armstrong & Getty inject cultural commentary and personal stories, offering a lively blend for anyone craving both cynicism and irreverence in their current events diet.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Yeti.

[Joe Getty]

The percentage of US adults who say they consume alcohol has fallen to 54%, the lowest in 90 years. But Gallup says the poll has a margin of error of + or -2. Kamala Harris's.

[Jack Armstrong]

That'S really interesting. Americans are consuming alcohol at the lowest rate in 90 years.

[Joe Getty]

Mm. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Why?

[Joe Getty]

Variety things. I think there are other substances available now. They're legal. Plus, that's just the trend line among younger people. Been a number of different theories floated for as to why. Nobody's really sure. It's not great for your health, but the world.

[Jack Armstrong]

But you compare it with where we are emotionally, it seems like people are less happy, more angry. The world is in more turmoil than it has been in the past. So you were drinking less? Well, maybe.

[Joe Getty]

You know, the whole I'm a social drinker thing always seemed odd to me as a guy who prefers to drink alone, muttering angrily in the D. But I think for a lot of humanity, people drink more when they're together and having fun.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Okay. That's stunning, though. I mean, I mean, that's a notable number. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah. It's astounding.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's not the. This is the lowest level of this since 2021. I mean, that sort of stuff wastes whatever, but 90 years.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. So big day today. I don't know if you followed Friday. I did. Closely. All day long. I was mostly disappointed. I have been talked down somewhat by a variety of pundits from being on the. On the. The edge of jumping off a building over the.

[Joe Getty]

What happened on Friday? What are we discussing?

[Jack Armstrong]

The whole Trump, Putin, Zelensky, Ukraine, Russia thing. Ah.

[Joe Getty]

And the red carpet, the warm handshake, etc.

[Jack Armstrong]

I personally hated the warm handshake and the red carpet and the ride in the car. I'm being told by some of the smart people. I like that. That is meaningless pageantry. Trump was trying to schmooze him and get his way. It didn't work. But ultimately doesn't mean anything. That's probably true. Um, and then nothing, nothing concrete that we're aware of came out of Friday, which I'm being told is. And it's probably true. It was an unrealistic expectation. Trump shouldn't have set any expectation for that. It's the opening salvo of what could be a long negotiation. So. But now, today, you got all the European leaders, for the most part, coming to the White House today. That's never happened before. And Zelinsky's gonna be there. Let me read from a couple of different publications about what's going on. So here's the Associated Press's version. Today's meeting will likely be very tough for Zelensky, an official close to the ongoing talk said. That official spoke on a condition of anonymity to speak openly about the thinking within Ukraine and between allies. Zelensky needs to prevent a scenario in which he gets blamed for blocking peace talks by rejecting Putin's maximalist demand on the Donbass. The officials said it is a demand that Zelensky has said many times he'll never accept because it's unconstitutional. His constitution doesn't allow him to accept it even if he wanted to, and could create a launching pad for future Russian attacks. If confronted with pressure to accept Putin's demands, Zelinsky would very likely have to revert to a skill he has demonstrated time and time again, diplomatic tact. Ukrainian leadership is seeking a trilateral meeting with Zelensky, Trump and Putin to discuss sensitive matters, including territorial issues. So that is the concern that. Well, let me get to Trump's truth social that he put out overnight. In case you didn't hear it, President Zelensky of Ukraine can end the war with Russia almost immediately if he wants to, or he can continue to fight. So if Trump hits him with that right off the bat, look, you can end this thing now if you want to, and then just, like, leave it there. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

In the same way that every victim of an aggressor can end it if they want to, by surrendering, by letting the aggressor have what they want. Let him gobble up your country, Let.

[Jack Armstrong]

Them rape you, let them steal from you, let them. Whatever it's going to be, Right?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Hey, Ukraine. Lie back and enjoy it. I find that despicable. It's ridiculous. Why hasn't he said that of Putin? Hey, Putin, you could end the fighting right now. Why don't you? Why'd you invade your neighbor? Based on your fantasies, your Covid era fantasies of, you know, restoring the Soviet empire. Great.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I think the response from Trump, Rubio would be, and it's not because Russia's got something on him or he loves authoritarian leaders or he wants to be like Putin and be a dictator. I don't think it's any of that. I think it just might be he just sees in deals how it's going to turn out, whether you like it or not. Who's got the leverage, who's got the power. Putin doesn't have to under any circumstances, whereas Zelensky kind of has to take it. It's not. And as, as Marco Rubio kept saying on the Sunday shows yesterday, you might, you might not find this palatable and it's not moral. You might not like it, it's unfair. It's all of those things, but it's just where we are.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I just, I wish they would go ahead and say we are not willing to help Ukraine enough to turn the tide. I guess everybody can tell. And neither Europe see that. Well, no, I don't think so. Well, we'll see what comes out of these meetings because Europe is, is talking very tough and I hear you snickering and you should be friends. Europe is talking about, well, you know what? I've got some of the quotes in front of me, but no, they're, they're, they're making very strong statements about, we're with Ukraine, we're not capitulating, we're not giving away land.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. Well, I, etcetera, I'm informed heavily by my people I like listening to on the London Telegraph podcast constantly berating their European allies, including their own country, for not stepping up more over the last three years with money, equipment, maybe troops, whatever. They've had three years to be like the central force again. I go back to that quote from what's his name from Poland, why are we, the 500 million, counting on the 300 million to protect us against 150 million.

[Joe Getty]

Right, yeah. And some of these quotes are tough talk. I mean, like your gal Giorgio Maloney of Italy said, after three and a half years in which Russia demanded nothing less than the capitulation of Ukraine, quote, today, finally, glimmers of dialogue were happening, in part because of a stalemate in the war, which he attributed in part to the united support that the west has given Ukraine. Quote, the unity of the west, from my point of view, is also the instrument we have to build peace and ensure justice. Adding that Italy stood by Ukraine since the beginning.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, okay. Rhetorically.

[Joe Getty]

But yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you know, I had this quote.

[Joe Getty]

You can hit Putin over the head with those words.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ow, ow. Stop. Well, or they can't. So I had this quote last week from somebody commenting on the situation of Europe. There are those that can, but won't. There's those who want to but can't. I'd put her in that category. And then there are those who that can't. Those that can't and won't. I mean, so Italy just isn't a strong enough country. So she's kind of talking big with Germany's money or the United States's weapons. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Seriously, what's Italy going to do, Sweetheart?

[Jack Armstrong]

A little more from a reporting Washington Post. This is pretty interesting. The US Is hoping that a trilateral meeting with Trump, Putin and Zelensky will take place this week, according to White House official. So you thought that was a big deal last week. How about Zelensky, Trump and Putin together this week somewhere? And then finally the Wall Street Journal on a possible U.S. role in a post peace deal in Ukraine. Such a role, military analysts say wouldn't need to involve US Boots on the ground in Ukraine, but could include indirect support such as having U.S. air Force fighters stationed right outside Ukraine at the ready, providing European forces with US made air defense systems, flying drones over Ukraine, etc. Etc. So the idea that there are some European boots on the ground and we got our planes and drones and everything right on the border ready to go at any moment.

[Joe Getty]

Ready to go. But will they be used? Vlad Putin is a strategic genius. He will invent provocations, fake incursions and remove any moral clarity from the west striking back at him. In the scenario you've described, we'll have our stuff at the ready, but we won't dare use it because the facts on the ground are unclear. Not wanting to escalate the Trump administration, blah, blah, blah. I just, I got a bad, a very bad feeling about this. There's only one thing Putin understands, that's force. But if you're not willing to use that force or generate that force or collect it or whatever, then, you know, let's stop pretending, right? Putin might, let's just go ahead and surrender.

[Jack Armstrong]

This whole time Putin might have been calculating on the fact that if it came down to it, NATO isn't going to go to war with Russia to protect Ukraine. The end.

[Joe Getty]

And he'll have the rest of Ukraine as much as he wants. You know, in a while, he's old, he might not get there, but, wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

You'Re taking a dim view of things.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'm just a realist.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, cold.

[Joe Getty]

Wake up and smell the cold coffee.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, we'll. We'll. I. I'd be shocked if we don't know the end of the day, either by something Trump says or a statement by Europe. I. I have a feeling that European leaders are not going to feel the need to dance around this at the end of the day. What do you think?

[Joe Getty]

If.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would agree, if Putin lays it on Zelinsky, hey, look, thanks for wearing a jacket, but you don't have the cards either. You mean Trump? Yeah, if Trump says to Zelinsky, look, thanks for wearing a jacket, but you don't have the cards, you could end this today. What is wrong with you? Sign a deal. Sign a deal. Do you think Europe will come out and say, no, no, no, no, no, we ain't having it?

[Joe Getty]

Well, if they did accept it, that would be a complete reversal of what they've been saying. I would be surprised if Trump said, you know, we're not going to support you anymore. There's no point. It's just more people dying. You've got to surrender. I suppose it's possible Europe would spin it and. And. And. And try to build up the security guarantees as. As rhetorically, as high as they can make them sound. I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't.

[Joe Getty]

I. I truly don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, Marco said. Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, said yesterday that Russia had 20,000 dead last month. 20,000 in a month. But as he said, they've got a lot more meat to feed into the meat grinder than Ukraine does. I mean, that's some hard, cold reality.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it is. And actually, I appreciate that. Play a 61. Michael, if you would, Marco, here. What it's going to take to stop the fighting, if we're being honest and serious here, is both sides are going to have to give, and both sides should expect to get something from this. And that's a very difficult thing to do. It's very difficult because Ukraine obviously feels, you know, harmed, and rightfully so, because they were invaded, and the Russian side, because they feel like they've got momentum in the battlefield and frankly, don't care. Don't seem to care very much about how many Russian soldiers die in this endeavor. They just churn through it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Mm.

[Joe Getty]

The only thing that's going to appease Russia is giving them more than they currently hold on the battlefield. Otherwise why would they accept it unless their manpower and financial problems are even worse than we realize?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a tough reality. Putin should say that out loud. Why would I quit unless I'm going to get more than I've gotten now? Because I can get it on my own.

[Joe Getty]

Well, right, and, and the requirements that, you know, people have trotted out so far for Putin to accept the deal, giving up that critical corridor of defensive cities that would render Ukraine defenseless. So they can't accept that deal.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's so hard to break out of the headspace of what's right and what's wrong sometimes and just settle into what is. Sure, and it's all kinds of wrong that Putin took chunks of Ukraine and might get to keep it and this and that. But who's gonna stop him? Are you gonna stop him? Well, then shut up if you're not. The European leaders are arriving at the White House now and it's gonna be quite a day. More on the way. Stay here.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

What's going on with that song? That Bruce Springsteen song where he goes, hey little girl, is your daddy home? Did he go and leave you all alone? That's all I say. I. I just got. All I say is why am I hearing this in a Chipotle? Like that's not an appropriate thing to hear?

[Joe Getty]

Not.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my. That's a. Okay, I have noticed my, my kids and I remember this the other day. What was the first restaurant that decided we should have music playing all the time? We were at like a chain breakfast place the other day having a, having a little breakfast there's music playing the fairly decent volume, like most places. Who's the first to decide that and why?

[Joe Getty]

You know, there's been the tinkling piano background music, like your classy joints forever or somebody playing in the corner or what have you.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

It's. It's everywhere, though. It's. Retail stores have pop music cranking all the time because. Right. It makes people happier, I guess, and less likely to cuss out the help.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. If you go into a store, like, if you're in the Gap and there's not music playing, would you be weirded out? Would it feel kind of dead and not. I don't know. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I'm in a weird minority in the world of golf. Having a speaker in the cart, listening to music the whole way around the golf course.

[Jack Armstrong]

Really?

[Joe Getty]

More guys that I know are thumbs up than down, by far.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. So I haven't played golf in 20 years or something like that, but that would have been unheard of back when I played golf. The idea of music blasting out of anything.

[Joe Getty]

Well, it's generally not blasting at, you know, unless you're. I don't know, at a public course where nobody cares, but it's at a reasonable volume. I. I don't like it, but I'm in the minority.

[Jack Armstrong]

Huh. People want that all the time. Huh? Is it just needing input?

[Joe Getty]

I. I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

I.

[Joe Getty]

Generally, when I listen to music, I'm listening to music not as background music, but, you know, you know, teach their own.

[Jack Armstrong]

Generally. When I was playing golf, I loved the fact that it was just so silent out there.

[Joe Getty]

I know the birds chirping and the sounds of. I know. That's like my favorite part of it. But again, I'm in the minority. I've had to accept it. But it's. It's kind of annoying in a couple of different ways in that, you know, you. Maybe you're in this cart and the other guys are over there, another cart, they're 50 yards away, and you find what you think is their ball there in the rough. You say Titleist 4, and they're like, what? Titleist 4. What?

[Jack Armstrong]

There's a Titleist 4 right here. Is it yours?

[Joe Getty]

Because you got to talk over the mute. You got to yell over the music, and. Or they're talking way louder than they think they are because it's sure. Over the music as you're trying to hit a shot. But again, I'm in the minority. It's fine.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you are. You're on the older end.

[Joe Getty]

It's not like I'm on the receiving end of Putin's attacks on Ukraine, for instance. I try to keep my woes in perspective.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I used up all my time. I was going to talk about how I was in the emergency vet with my dog pretty much all night Saturday night. Like the entire night. Oh from midnight until 4. Then I came home for 45 minutes and went back at 6. So I was basically up on island. Everything's fine but I got no sleep. Anyhow, we got more news of the day and a bunch of other stuff to catch you up on. Stay here.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, so we had the breaking news that Zelinsky is not gonna wear a jacket. He's gonna show up in his military outfit anyway. Who knows if that's true or not? Although our executive producer Hansen said I predict Zelinsky will exit the limo in an Uncle Sam costume, followed by four aides, each of whom is dressed as a president on Mount Rushmore.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, that could be effective. It could be. Trump does enjoy pageantry.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I say that was some pageantry on Friday. Holy cow. Including the B2 bombers flying overhead right as they shook hands. And we're getting ready to walk off. That was something.

[Joe Getty]

B2 and F35s, I think it was. Most advanced fighters, most badass planes on.

[Jack Armstrong]

Planet Earth flying right overhead. But like, like you said earlier, I don't think that has any effect on Putin.

[Joe Getty]

I know you have planes. I know. How many planes in which ones? I know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that's right You're a powerful military effort. God dang it. Maybe I better rethink everything I've done.

[Joe Getty]

Trump with his, you know, we're a great power. They're a great power. Pretty much, number one. And number two, China's thinking, wait, what?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. No.

[Joe Getty]

Russia's a midget with one giant muscular arm. As I've said before, they're nuclear armaments.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's it.

[Joe Getty]

They're. They're an economic. They're a military. Unless you're an even smaller country next door.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is that a thing? Little people that have one big strong arm?

[Joe Getty]

In this case, it is. It's the one and only. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trump, Trump, just truth this out. I've settled six wars in six months, one of them a possible nuclear disaster. And yet I have to read and listen to the Wall Street Journal and many other who truly don't have a clue. Tell me everything that I am doing wrong on the Russia, Ukraine mess. That is sleepy Joe Biden's war, not mine. I'm only here to stop it, not to prosecute it any further. It would never have happened if I was President. I know exactly what I'm doing, and I don't need the advice of people who have been working on all these conflicts for years were not able to stop them. They are stupid people with no common sense, intelligence or understanding. And they only make the current Russia, Ukraine disaster more difficult to fix. Despite all of my lightweight and very jealous critics, I'll get it done. I always do. President Donald J. Trump. We will see. We'll know more at the end of the day. I'm not sure those kind of statements have any positive effect on anything, but Marco, Marco Rubio said he was on every single talk show yesterday as a Secretary of State, and he said a couple of different times, look, we don't even have to do this. It's not our war war. We're just trying to help end a war because lots of people are dying. If it doesn't work out, Americans lives won't be changed at all. We'll go back to living our lives, whether it ends or whether it doesn't. He said that a couple of different times.

[Joe Getty]

That's the whole it's happening over there, it doesn't matter to us argument. That's been made several times throughout history, World War I and World War II in particular.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well.

[Joe Getty]

Well, in the Cold War to a large extent. I mean, why do we care if the communists take all over all of East Asia? Because we do, according to, you know, people who hold that point of view. Domino theory. Yeah, I don't. I. Look, that's fine. He can make that argument, but it's not like it's an original and groundbreaking argument. This is a European problem. If Herr Hitler has a claim to the Sudetenland, that's their problem. That's, you know, and look, it being, you know, that situation being that way, then is not proof that this situation is analogous.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Saying it is.

[Joe Getty]

But Marco Rubio can't claim that it's automatically. Obviously not either.

[Jack Armstrong]

So this is some breaking ish news, too. Sources tell Newsmax that Putin has dropped his objection to teaching the Ukrainian language in Ukraine. Well, how kind of you to allow a country to teach their children their language. That's very nice, Vita, because he was demanding that only Russian part of his deal. Now, this has got to be in the realm of you ask for some things you're not going to get just so you can give on those and hang on to the things you care about. But one of his asks was, you know, I get all the Donbass. You're not NATO. And everybody needs to speak Russian in Ukraine.

[Joe Getty]

Well, we don't teach English. Well, we have English classes, but we teach you how to be transgender during them in this country. So we've already given that up.

[Jack Armstrong]

He says differences to be worked out on how to define and implement a ceasefire. Okay. Russian security guarantees for Ukraine allowing NATO to come to Ukraine's defense if Russia violates it. Wow. Did they actually agree to that? Did Putin drop that or say that's okay? Secure security guarantees. Well, I guess we'll hear about that today.

[Joe Getty]

Probably Satan is in the details, friends. And I would just assume until proven otherwise that what Putin is calculating is. All right, what do I have to agree to to get the US to announce they're through with this, and then we let the death settle for a couple of months. I reconstitute my forces, etc. I invent a couple of precursor, you know, pretexts for attacks, and then I continue on with my mission in. In the same way I did. And Trump is not going to rally America to war. It won't happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

By the way, I throw this out. I've mentioned it before in the Bob Woodward book about the last year of the Biden administration. Bob Woodward says Joe Biden gets off the phone with Putin, realizes the invasion is going to happen, there's nothing he can do to stop it, and he's cussing Barack Obama. This is Barack's fault. Barack effed this all up by not responding at all when Russia went into Crimea. So even Joe Biden thinks that's what's got all this going, is there was no response to going into Crimea.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. You know, Trump way overplays the whole this never would have happened when I was president hand. I mean, shut up. You've said it a million times. On the other hand, he has a point in that we, the United States, signal to Putin over and over again, you can pretty much do what you want. And now that Putin has pretty much done what he wanted, Trump's supposed to end it or fight Putin bravely or something. And I get that he resents it or thinks it's lacking in context when, for instance, the Wall Street Journal criticizes the way he's going about it. Yeah, and I don't like the way he's going about it either.

[Jack Armstrong]

But Trump has a point, and I hate that. So Jimmy Carter did this and Barack Obama does this where there were no wars that started under my administration. I'm very proud of that. Yeah, because you let people get away with stuff that then the next Republican president had to deal with.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a weak sauce, man. Different thing I just came across on the Twitter from Byron, New Yorker, the Washington Examiner. This topic that we were really into last week probably will be again tomorrow. After the initial anti Trump reflex about D.C. crime, more and more voices are conceding that he was right about the Crime in Washington, D.C. wall Street Journal reporting on people unhappy that the anti crime effort has not yet reached their neighborhoods. So, yeah, that there was a big BLOWBACK for like 48 hours of crime is down in D.C. but then more and more people, Maureen Dowd in the New York Times over the weekend saying, look, I Live in Washington, D.C. it's very, very scary.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Well, and it's hilarious that the argument has morphed from, he can't do this. It's totalitarianism when the federal government has the responsibility of administering Washington, D.C. and D.C. is like, granted some autonomy when Congress thinks it's appropriate. So the fallback is the feds are in charge of D.C. that, that's not, you know, D.C. governing itself is not a right, it's a privilege. So that whole. The narrative blew up. The whole crime's actually down, blew up because the police have been openly faking the statistics for a very long time. And anybody of conscience who lives there says, yeah, it's dangerous and scary as hell. But now the narrative is switched to, well, they're, they're not policing all neighborhoods and some minority neighborhoods they're, they don't have the National Guard there enough. Okay, you people, you're ridiculous. All right, we'll put them in. What, what, what neighborhood do you want? What scary, predominantly black cli, crime ridden neighborhood where the National Guard isn't yet. You name it, New York Times. And, and we'll send plenty of guardsmen there, too.

[Jack Armstrong]

So it's Saturday afternoon and Henry tells me that Pugcito, our Pug, his face is all swollen. So I come over, look. So I come over to look at it and I said, looks like it always looks to me. And he said, no, it's all swollen up, see around here? And I said, yeah, I thought that's what his face always looked like. I didn't really see it. But then later Henry says, look at his neck now. And his neck was giant, so that was noticeable. Like he had this big bubble underneath his neck.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, boy.

[Jack Armstrong]

And so I call the animal hospital that we usually use, which was just about to close on Saturday, and said this would happen. They said he's been outside. Yeah, of course he has. And sounds like a bee sting or something like that. An allergic reaction to a bee sting probably, or along those lines. And so give him a Benadryl and everything like that. If he throws up or collapses, though, you're going to need to get him to the, you know, emergency vet right away.

[Joe Getty]

Me too. Just if, if I throw up or collapse, get me to a doctor.

[Jack Armstrong]

Collapses is difficult, difficult with a dog because they spend. I don't know if you have, if your dog does this, but they spend a lot of time just lying about. So what does a collapse look like when you spend 90 of your life lying there? But anyway, at one point he does, he does start throwing up. And this is late at night, so he starts throwing up. So I thought, okay, so we gotta, we. He's got. Still got this giant neck and he's throwing up. They told me specifically that if this happens, I gotta go. So I call up the emergency vet, I tell them what's going on. They said, yeah, you better come in. And so I get there at like 12:30 in the morning on a Saturday night, telling myself, instead of being bothered by this, she should be thankful that this is happening on a Saturday night and not a Tuesday night or some other night where you'd be having to go to work, blah, blah, blah. I was trying to make lemonade out of lemons. But so we go and we get there and like every appointment for everything you ever do in your life, it takes like 90 times longer than you think it's going to do. As I'm driving to the vet, I thought the zoo is like 15 miles away. I could be the zoo in no time, handle this whole situation. But a lot of you didn't like that from last week.

[Joe Getty]

So I. Oh, lions, right, Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

No Katie, no Jack, no vet distraction, zoo this direction. I mean, I came to a fork in the road but. But I went ahead and went to the vet and I passed on all the tests. I passed on all the tests. We all know how that works. If you've ever taken, you know, say we could, we could do this test, we could do an ultrasound and then we could do, you know, do nine different kinds of blood tests and everything like that. Next thing you know, you walk out with a $5,000 bill. I just said no to all the tests after they declared that probably okay. I mean, looking at him, everything's gonna be okay and okay. So I'm just, I, I passed all the tests with some concern, but I ended up being there all night long. Brought him home at 6:30 in the.

[Joe Getty]

Morning, just waiting for him to be.

[Jack Armstrong]

Seen or what combination of waiting to be seen and waiting to see if he's gonna stabilize and you know, just all those kind of things. But I got out of there with a decent sized bill. I, I happen to live next to the best emergency vet clinic in the world. Oprah brings her pets here. Celebrities fly in with their animals. Kardashians bring their pets here to this particular vet clinic and they know they're that and they charge accordingly. So it's very easy to get very expensive very quickly. But everything.

[Joe Getty]

So what was wrong with them?

[Jack Armstrong]

I think it was just a bee sting or whatever. I think that's.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. It's funny, my sister had a similar situation over the weekend. She thought it was a bee sting, but it was an abscessed tooth.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, really?

[Joe Getty]

In her hound.

[Jack Armstrong]

I said no to the test. I know a lot of you disagree. You say yes to all the tests and you know, that's up to you. And my.

[Joe Getty]

They're like the tests.

[Jack Armstrong]

They're like my kids. You say that's fine. You do you, I'll do me. We're gonna finish strong next. Stay here.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

So we are not a breaking news show. Obviously, people listen to it in podcast form or different time zones or whatever and. But Zelinsky's about to arrive at the White House and I do want to see if he's wearing a suit or not. And I want to see if Trump says anything to him if he's not wearing a suit, because I can't imagine Trump not making a comment if Zelensky shows up again in his military outfit.

[Joe Getty]

I find that horrifying.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is horrified. Of course it's horrifying. Of course it's horrifying that this matter, it matters at all. What would you do, though? You're Zielinski. Would you show up in a suit?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. I absolutely see why you would. But if. Look, he considers himself the commander in chief and he wears a military garb all the time. Suppose I'd show up in that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. Because if you show up in the suit, it is a hundred percent. I do what you want me to do. On your terms.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's the worst way to present it. The other way to present it would be, this is the most powerful military on earth that I'm asking for help. I'm gonna be as polite as I possibly can be and respectful to try to get what I want.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, you're not wrong. It's a tough one. You want to hear? Here's your what the hell? Moment of this. This story. The first lady, Melania Trump, who is A very attractive and B knows at least four more languages than I do, has written a letter to Vladimir Putin asking him to stop the killing for the sake of the children.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Hand delivered on Friday, I guess.

[Joe Getty]

Really? Why don't you just write a letter to dogs and ask him to stop barking? I mean, I mean, that's sweet in a way. It's Lovely. In a way. In a complete idiotic waste of time in another way. Why? Why? I don't understand.

[Jack Armstrong]

I didn't react to that story.

[Joe Getty]

It's almost counterproductive to me to go to an evil murderer and beg them to stop murdering. That's worse than nothing.

[Jack Armstrong]

I didn't react to that story with a heart fill of hate, as you apparently have. But you're starting to convince me that perhaps because I'm trying to pick somebody else. I hate to use Hitler. Everybody uses Hitler all the time. As an example.

[Joe Getty]

Don't use Hitler.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I'm gonna write a letter to hit earlier. Hey, this whole murdering Jews thing, it's. I think it's terrible. You should stop. Would make me look silly, right?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, exactly. Well, and imploring him as a fellow parent to protect the innocence of children, I'm sure. And again, it's a lovely impulse. And she seems like a lovely gal.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got a new angle on that, but maybe I'll make that my final thought.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, we. We have kidnapped 50,000 children. We've killed thousands of others. Are you sure you're writing this letter to me? He's thinking, does this address to the wrong guy?

[Jack Armstrong]

It is now my incredible privilege to present final thoughts with these arms. Wrong. And, Getty, here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the show for the day. There he is, our technical director, Michelangelo. Michael, what's your final thought about this?

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's. He doesn't show up with a suit. He shows up with something that's actually stained, like, with ketchup and mustard, and, you know, like, he's just eaten.

[Joe Getty]

All right, all right, all right. Do better next time, okay?

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Terrible.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

I give that a D minus. Katie Green, what's your final times? Get ready for a grade. Just want to let Jack know I'm very proud of him for not taking.

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, good move across my mind.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

I think the most charitable view is Melania did this just because it got out in the news the way it got out. And it draws attention to the fact that Russia snatched a lot of children, which is not as big a story as it probably should be.

[Joe Getty]

You know what? That is clever, because I'm reading some of the verbiage of it. It's completely wasted on Putin. I mean, like, horribly wasted. Wasted. But it's rather beautifully written about children and the quiet dreams that they share in their hearts and the melody of a child's laughter and the rest of it. It's it's gorgeous writing.

[Jack Armstrong]

So she's model writer, first lady, behemoth breeder apparently.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour work there.

[Joe Getty]

Send Baron in to defeat the Russian forces single handedly. So many people to thanks so little time. Go to armstrong and getty.com drop us a note mailbag at armstrong and getty.com.

[Jack Armstrong]

She'S we'll have so much news tomorrow. See you then. God Bless America.

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[Jack Armstrong]

And tomorrow we'll let you know.

[Joe Getty]

If.

[Jack Armstrong]

Zelensky wore a suit and the other.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Talking that's how Jack and Joe get paid.

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