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Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. So a new video came out about that dude that got shot over the weekend. We'll get to that in just a second. First this, we don't do as much red meat on this show as a lot of radio shows do. Red meat being when you just, you got, you got the hungry lions of people who agree with you on a certain topic and you just throw them the most delicious, easy to devour, good smelling, tasty stuff.
Joe Getty
You're making me hungry.
Jack Armstrong
That fits what they want. And it's just, I mean, I don't know, it just. Some shows, it's all they do. I just, I don't dig it that much. Funny, I was watching a YouTube video yesterday about a comedy writer who used to write for Saturday Night Live and way back in the day, and how much he and Norm MacDonald, Seth Meyers, some of the people like that hated jokes that were just pandering to the audience's politics, which is now they do all the time on Saturday Night Live. But like what Jimmy Kimmel does every single night or Stephen Colbert, I mean, you got an audience there of lefties and you throw out a Trump's dumb and everybody claps and laughs. I mean, that's. How do you sleep at night? I mean, that's just so embarrassingly red meat. Easy. Yeah, it's just. I don't know how you do that anyway, so we don't do as much of the. Just super simple stuff like that. I can't not do this one, though. Michelle Obama the other day was talking about how as black women, we don't articulate our pain. Nobody allows us to speak out about our pain. And one response to that was Ma', am, I have literally never seen a clip of you talking in which you are not complaining.
Joe Getty
Oh, that's good.
Jack Armstrong
We're not allowed to talk about our pain. When have you ever noticed been talking about your pain. And then they give you millions of dollars for books about your pain and TV specials and endless interviews and platforms at the convention to talk about your pain.
Joe Getty
We.
Jack Armstrong
We're not allowed to ever say our pain out loud. Oh, give me a freaking break.
Joe Getty
The problem with being a leftist race hustler is you're not allowed to complain about being a victim at all. So that's why we never do.
Jack Armstrong
I've literally never seen a picture of you, video of you. And you weren't complaining. That's pretty good.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, so you got the guy that was shot over the weekend. Who was he? Well, this is the way John Carl portrayed him in the intro to ABC this Week Sunday Morning.
News Reporter
His name, Alex preddy. He was 37 years old. He was an American citizen. He had no criminal record. He worked as a nurse. His patients were American veterans. He was an avid outdoorsman, a competitive cyclist, and a licensed gun owner. He played football and baseball in high school. He was a boy Scout.
Joe Getty
Literally a Boy Scout. There you go. In case you needed help with the narrative Mr. Carl was trying to set up there.
Jack Armstrong
Okay. And he probably was all those things, but he was also this thing. As reported in the news in the new video that came out yesterday.
Podcast Announcer
New video appearing to show Minneapolis ICU nurse Alex Preddy in a struggle with federal agents 11 days before he was shot and killed. You see man who appears to be Preddy and others on the scene shouting at agents who had been blocking an intersection. On January 13, a man who looks like Preddy seen kicking a federal vehicle before agents got out, pushed him and tackled him to the ground. Agents then firing gas into the crowd. But the agents got up and the man appearing to be pretty, walked away, a gun visible on his waistband. We don't know what happened before this altercation.
Jack Armstrong
So spitting on agents and kicking their vehicle while having a gun is not okay. You actually legally can't do that because you're getting involved with. With physically getting involved with law enforcement while packing a gun. That your, Your right to carry a gun went away at that point. So that's one thing. He could have been charged with that. As Mark Halpern writes today, nobody serious is saying that it justifies him being shot in the circumstance he got shot. But he's. It's no longer a portrait of a young man who was a peaceful protester. He was an angry interventionist on multiple occasions. Maybe more than the two we've seen.
Joe Getty
Well, right.
Jack Armstrong
There might be a whole. He might have been doing it every day, going and getting in the faces of cops, spitting on them, kicking their cars, that sort of stuff. And again, surely you're not stupid enough to think I'm claiming that then. Then, like two weeks later, you can shoot him anytime you want for any reason. But. But my argument would be John Carl did that little opening on ABC this week because he felt that mattered. Okay, well, if it matters what kind of guy was, now we're telling you what kind of guy he also was. Right?
Joe Getty
Let's Complete the picture, John. I doubt he will. Yeah, you're.
Jack Armstrong
You're a nut if you do that. If you go there where law enforcement is trying to do their job and you spit on cops and kick their vehicle, you're a freaking nut.
Joe Getty
Your hobby is fighting cops. And also, never mind the football, baseball, and competitive cycling, your hobby is fighting cops in the streets.
Jack Armstrong
It really is. And, man, you are playing a dangerous game. Same as a woman who blocked in cops, which is itself a crime, and then her wife. Come on, big boy, you better get some lunch. Gonna be here all day. I mean, go ahead and have that attitude with cops. Cops in really dangerous situations. Do it over and over, over again until your luck runs out.
Joe Getty
Well, and not only that, but spend all day raising the tension level and making it intentionally more and more difficult for the cops involved to do their jobs.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, like I was saying the other day, if you haven't listened to that video where the poor dude gets shot because, you know, I wish he hadn't been shot. But if you haven't listened to that video with the sirens and the drums and everything, God, how you would keep your wits about you and, you know, act in a reasonable, measured way when you're in a fight or you've been in a fight just recently or people have been beat up yesterday. I mean, it's. God, you're asking something impossible of these people.
Joe Getty
Right, Right. Does that excuse not living up to your, you know, training, blah, blah, blah. No, but how about there are multiple things that went wrong, and let's be honest about all of them, including the boy scout who likes to fight federal law enforcement in the streets, gets a charge out of it, thinks he's righteous. Whatever.
Jack Armstrong
He was a boy scout. He played high school football. He goes into dangerous situations and spits on cops with a gun in his.
Joe Getty
Belt, kicks out their tail lights, does it? Day after day, and then at the end, something bad happened and I'm shocked.
Jack Armstrong
Come on. Not good, though. Hopefully it's being dialed down over the last couple of days. Getting Ice Barbie out of there probably helps. Tom Holman is now in there. Tom Holman, if you don't know his act, has been involved in the immigration thing at the federal level since the 80s. And Barack Obama gave him some presidential medal thingy for the way he handled deportations in the Obama administration. And he was speaking today. We have some clips, although I've not.
Joe Getty
Looked at the list. Oh, I've looked it over, Jack. There's some fine, fine clips here. Well, let's lead with 60.
Tom Holman
I've been on the ground less than three full days. I got in here Monday. President of the United States called me Monday morning and asked me to deploy here. Got here Monday evening and I'm staying. So the problem's gone. But we've made a lot of progress, a lot of progress in the last three days.
Jack Armstrong
He has grown up vibes versus several people in the Trump administration and all the Democrats in Minnesota.
Joe Getty
Right, right. In the Democrats in the Biden administration. Speaking of which, 61 during the past administration.
Tom Holman
Well, I'll remember more than 10 million illegal aliens entered this nation. Many were national security threats, public safety threats. We can't remember where. Two million, two million known godaways. Two million people. He paid more to get away. Why that should scare the hell out of everybody.
Joe Getty
Then he makes the point that he's been meeting with the officials both in Minneapolis and Minnesota in general and they didn't agree on everything. But you can't fix the problem without discussions. And then give us 63. Michael.
Tom Holman
All we want is to talk to the person that local and state law enforcement authorities locked in a jail cell. They chose to lock this person up. That's who we want to talk to. The public safety threat. So the argument is that protects victim witnesses of crime. It's a bunch of crap, crap, crap.
Joe Getty
And then finally this.
Tom Holman
64 when we have these agreements, it takes less law enforcement agents to do the job. One agent can arrest one bad guy in the safety and security of a jail where he's behind the wire. We know we don't have weapons. But when you normally release that public safety threat illegal alien back in the community, we have a job to do. We're going to arrest him. So we're going to find him. And what happens is now we got to arrest somebody on his turf. He has access to who knows what weapons. Now we got to send the whole team out, cover the back door, cover the front door officer. Safety reasons. Then because of the hateful rhetoric and the attacks on ISIS officers, now we gotta send a security team behind the arrest team. So what could have been done with one person in a safety and security jail? Now we got 15, 16 people out there doing it. I know that causes stress in the community. So if we get these agreements in place, that means less agents on the street.
Joe Getty
So while brush cut guy, whose name I have a mental block on with the long coat that was compared Jack to Bovino, Nazi coats, in one of perhaps the final idiotic stretching of who's a Nazi and who's Not. I really prefer Holman's vibe.
News Reporter
Oh, yeah.
Joe Getty
And not for a second do I not agree that if you're here illegally, there needs to be something done about it. Even if you're a fine, hard working person who's just looking for a better life, you've got to have a system for dealing with.
Jack Armstrong
Or change the law.
Joe Getty
Right, or change the law. But as a practical man, you cannot run roughshod to the point that you lose the public and you lose public support because then you can't do your jobs. So I like Coleman's approach. I think he's. He was exactly the right move calming.
Jack Armstrong
Things down, I hope. Although the real, like hardcore instigators who are more about causing disruption and tearing down the country than they are the specific issue in Minneapolis. I don't know if they're gonna give up.
Joe Getty
Right. Right. Hey, when I was doing. Oh, we probably ought to take a break. We're gonna talk to Mike Lyons in a few minutes about the situation. Do we strike Iran? What would that look like? And in my little section of good news, I forgot one of the stories I was gonna bring you and that's that for the first time in my memory anyway, Democrats, who've always held a commanding edge on who do you trust more for education have lost it. Republicans actually lead that now in some pretty big polls. So the good news is people are waking up to how crappy and ideological government schools have become.
Jack Armstrong
So I mentioned last hour that I had a package lost by one of your major shippers, pretty expensive package. And I've run into some problems and got a couple of interesting texts about that that I think is news that you can use if you're ever in that situation. And it ain't good, but it's worth knowing ahead of time in case you're ever going to ship anything expensive ever again.
Show Producer/Announcer
Stay tuned for all that Armstrong and Getty.
Jack Armstrong
So I think this is handy information to know because I'd never lost a bag before shipping it or a package or anything like that. And I'm going through it and so maybe it'll be helpful for you if you are ever in that situation. But I can't reset everything we've talked about over the last two hours. So you either get this or you don't. But here's a pretty good text. Taking a shot at me. Oh, sure, I'm a moron for following the core gasm influencer, but you make maids dig through garbage without a tip and then can't remember your one piece of luggage. That's pretty good shot.
Joe Getty
Fair criticism.
Jack Armstrong
Yes, it is fair criticism.
Joe Getty
The judges will allow it.
Jack Armstrong
So I left my one big bag. We left it in the hotel when we left New Orleans. And then I called the hotel as soon as I figured that out and they said that happens every day. Literally happens every day. And we have a system for it and we ship it FedEx. And so I did that. FedEx lost it. And there's a lot of stuff in there. Like a ton of stuff in there because we just carrying light carry ons on the plane. And I found out eventually the insurance you get for it is a hundred bucks. And that's if you can provide receipts for everything in the bag, including for the bag itself if it was expensive. And I don't know about you, but like I don't keep receipts for three year old suitcases or that sort of stuff. Maybe you're more organized than I am. Or my jeans or my shoes or all the different things that we had in there. Several pairs of shoes. And then, and then what I'm trying to deal with, it's like, well, you're gonna have to contact the shipper. But you have a, you have a tracking number. So obviously you had. It says here package received and you had a tracking number. Where did it go next? I'm sorry, you're gonna have to talk to the person who shipped it. But you're the ones who had it last. They didn't have it last. You had it last. So why would I ask them where it is if you're the ones who had it last? You'll need to talk to the shipper. I mean I just got no, it was of no help whatsoever. It was so frustrating.
Joe Getty
We don't care about your problem and we don't want to solve it.
Jack Armstrong
Click Jack.
Joe Getty
All I can.
Jack Armstrong
One text Jack. All I can say is air tags. Good, good idea. I've had it recommended. I've been planning to do it and I have it. I will in the future. I will never have a big suitcase ever again without having an air tag on. Is true that you have to use the. I'm not going to mention the company anymore claim process. And you're limited to 100 bucks. Your life. Your insurance policy, if you've got an umbrella policy might cover for more. Okay, I'll look into that. That's a good idea. Hey, I was just listening to your story about the company losing your package. Every time something ships with this company. I've had all kinds of problems. They shouldn't be in Business. Everybody should use the other companies because there's two big shipping companies we all know.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
And I'm going to blaspheme both of them. This is just my personal experience, so I've worked with this one. They lost something. They're making no effort to find it. And. And like, like just hilariously dismissing my problem. Well, you'll have to talk to somebody, whoever dropped it off, but they don't have it anymore. You have it. It says so right here. You have it. Where do you just. Where's the last place it was? I'm sorry, I don't have that information. Well, who would if you don't. I just don't get it.
Joe Getty
But you're one person with one package. We don't care.
Jack Armstrong
Click Right, right, right. And this help. It's happened seldom enough that we don't have to worry about it. We can just eat your misery. There's only two companies, and I just wanted to mention the other company for. I used to ship around musical instruments a lot, and I always paid for the insurance, the extra money for the insurance to cover the value. The one time something got broken and I called to try to take advantage of it, they had way too many humps, hoops to jump through to actually use the insurance. It would have been impossible because. Well, you. You can't prove that we did it. How do we know that you didn't break it after you took it out of the package? And there's just no way to prove that. So just letting you know, with both of the big companies out there, you know, good luck. That's all I'm saying. Good luck.
Joe Getty
Wow.
News Reporter
Wow.
Joe Getty
How do we know you didn't break. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. You sold me the insurance.
Jack Armstrong
How does this work? Right?
Joe Getty
Oh, it really doesn't. We never.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. And then other smarter people told me, no, don't buy the insurance. It's a complete waste of time. You just got to hope it doesn't get broken. But if it does get broken, the insurance isn't going to help you.
Joe Getty
Sir, let me make this clear to you. We took your money. Now we have your money. We're keeping your money. Click right.
Jack Armstrong
Except they'd say it.
Joe Getty
Enjoy your broken banjo.
Jack Armstrong
They'd say it in a very thick accent. From another world, from another country. We're going to talk to Mike Lyons about war with Iran, what that would look like, among other things.
Show Producer/Announcer
Coming up, Armstrong and Getty.
News Correspondent
As US President Donald Trump continues to threaten Iran's leadership, saying that the United States has amassed a gigantic force here in this region ready for military strikes. Iran's leadership remains defiant. I was able to smile, speak with the speaker of Iranian Parliament who tells me any attack on Iran would lead to a protracted war.
Tom Holman
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
And it was interesting to find out today. I did not know this. Iran is the weakest they've ever been, but they're not completely defenseless. According to the Wall Street Journal, Tehran has an estimated 2,000 mid range ballistic missiles that can reach across the region and strike as far as Israel also has significant stockpiles of short range missiles capable of reaching US Bases in the Gulf and ships in the Strait of Hormuz. I didn't know they were still that lethal.
Joe Getty
Could they bring those missiles to bear though, Jack, if Trump deploys the discombobulator again?
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Joe Getty
Let's discuss these matters and whatever else pops up with military analyst Mike Lyons. Mike, it's always enlightening and a pleasure. How are you, sir?
Mike Lyons
Hey, guys. Great to be back. It's funny too. I got a text last night from somebody that said to me, are we going to be at war with Iran by the weekend? And, and I looked at the situation and said there's a real possibility. So I appreciate this conversation today and let's see what we can talk about it.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And I somehow had become convinced that Iran was practically helpless, but they're not as helpless as I thought. So where does that put us now?
Mike Lyons
They're not. They have this mobile capability and we'll have to clear out some of these bases, some of the fixed targets, let's say that they could go after that, are in the region there. And Israel will have to be involved with this. You saw the Iranians respond even back when Israel took out most of their air defense platforms back last spring. And they still were able to respond and overwhelm and hit targets inside of Israel. They could still do the same thing. Any of those air defense systems are easily overwhelmed. Now. We've got destroyers. When you bring the Abraham Lincoln, you bring all of the support that comes with that. There will be a lot more air defense assets in the region, which I think the President is relying on should something happen. But they would have at least one last strike and they could do some damage if they decided to launch something preemptively, which I don't think they launch preemptively. They'll do it in response to something. If we don't get everything on the first, the first round of our targeting.
Joe Getty
What would they be likely to target? And how much damage do you suppose they could do?
Mike Lyons
Well, they'll go for civilian built up areas, they'll go for military bases we have in the Middle east and likely try to hit some of our ships. They won't be successful at those because we're pretty good at defending our own fleet that's there. But Israel likely becomes the big target, which is why any military operation that we have, we're contemplating with the Iranians in this situation as trying to weaken their regime. I'm sure the Israelis are arguing for decapitation strikes. If we're going to do something in order to take out their command and control, take out their potential ability to launch these kind of rockets. It depends how much they have been, you know, they've been disintermediated, let's say, and they have command and control down to low levels to just launch them. We assume, I think Israel assumes that there's a lot of command and control centralized there. So if we go up to those targets, perhaps we can keep them from launching. But Israel is going to be very involved because they'll likely go after built up areas, civilian areas that they'll look to make sure that they can defend first. As well.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, you know, the history of these sorts of things is having very clear cut goals. What we're trying to accomplish is always so important. I mean, and so when we were trying to take out their capability to build a nuclear weapon, that's, that's pretty clear goal. But our goal here is stop being bad guys. What is our goal?
Mike Lyons
Well, you know, we've given them these three demands that are just maximalist, you know. You know, from our perspective, basically no more enrichment of nuclear weapons and nuclear sites in Iran, completely limiting the number and range of long range ballistic missiles they have. And then when they must end all support to proxy groups that they're supporting in the Middle east, which I think are very weakened now as well. I mean, I don't think that is as big a threat. Israel has done an incredible job. You've got really, maybe the Houthis left a little bit of there and there's strands of Hezbollah, maybe the like, but Hamas and these other areas, these other groups have been very much decimated. So, but this is really about the President making Iran come to heel in some ways. And this implied regime change that always takes place every time we get involved with something like this. We saw it in Venezuela and I think, you know, we've got to be careful because this is not Venezuela, this is not the same situation. This is a 47 year regime that's been in charge that rules with an iron fist, that is killing tens of thousands of its own people right now. You know, I'm trying to find some historical analogy. Look, Hungary in the 50s, maybe more like Syria, because all the power still remains with the government. The civilians have no chance, they have no way to fight against this, this, the Republican Guards and also the Revolutionary Guards that exist inside, inside of Iran right now.
Jack Armstrong
Well, yeah, you brought up the protesters there at the end, I was going to mention. So we went through the three demands that Trump more or less announced over the last couple of days. None of them included anything about protesters. He hasn't mentioned protesters in a couple of weeks. And that was the original reason for sending the aircraft carrier. So is all of this just kind of, you know, we just need a reason to go in there and get rid of the Ayatollah, Is that what's going on?
Mike Lyons
I think so. I think that could be it. But this is Israel. I think their influence on this and their strategy is always decapitation. But I just don't think that would be a good end result. It's, you know, what is a military target and this in this case the target, some 86 year old cleric to try to take out his command post, which he really doesn't control the military anyway, that, you know, we don't know a lot about the inner workings here that he has influence and the like. But our perspective in the United States, it's not a good target. From Israel's perspective, it's a great target. But, but that's not something they could do on their own. It's not something that we think that's going to lead to any positive results.
Joe Getty
Talking to military analyst Mike Lyons and Mike, you've touched on this a little bit, but if you are going to launch a decapitation strike, you always have to have a reasonable idea of what will happen next. What I mean, are you just going to create a leadership vacuum and cross your fingers or is the idea, look, look, we are just going to reduce their offensive capability, whether it's nuclear programs, you know, financially funding the proxies, the ability of the Republican Guard to strike. We're just going to weaken Iran however much we can and then see what happens and react to it. That sounds like what the goal might be.
Mike Lyons
Yeah, that's not a good goal. And I think you saw Rubio, secretary Rubio testify yesterday that why Venezuela has gone well so far is because they set the stage for that. What happens next after they pulled out Maduro, they made a deal with everybody around them and said, you can either be cooperative or you're going to find yourself in an arms jumpsuit on a Special Forces helicopter. And so they're kind of playing ball, so to speak, but there's nobody to play ball inside of Iran. There's no, we just don't. We, the United States doesn't have that kind of influence. Maybe Turkey does and other Islamic countries do, but it's not the same situation. So we're going to repeat the mistakes of Iraq and potentially I look at Syria, what happened there, there was protests against the government and that civil war lasted seven. It's going to take something inside Iran like the Iranian military itself rising up and having a conflict against the Revolutionary Guards and some of the major players, but having them stop, kill their own people, which is another major factor here. But without that day after plan, again, I hope there's people in the administration saying, look, we can project power as much as we want, strangle as much as we want, but once we start firing missiles, then all bets are off.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, so that hints toward what I was about to ask because, you know, you, you come on air and you analyze the military situation, which is you're asked to do on variety of shows, but you don't sound like you got a lot of enthusiasm for the idea of the United States going to war with Iran.
Mike Lyons
I don't, I don't see a military solution to this. Again, we've talked about Iran. Greatest foreign policy failure in my lifetime post World War II, you name it. It's affected my whole life. It's affected millions, tens of millions of Americans that have fought in conflicts in the Middle east and, and I'd love nothing more for it to change. And we've watched the previous political administrations appease Iran and try to do all kinds of things to get them to come to play ball, but they're not. So, and I think they haven't been. And I don't think they're changing now. We're seeing that they're not going to go against, they're not going to all of a sudden agree to our maximalist demands, so to speak. So the policy should remain containment. Maybe we put some naval blockade, but I think that that crosses a red line for them as well. Maybe they start firing, but once they start firing, then I think all bets are off. Then I think it introduces other things that we could do. But maybe the naval blockade is what we'll do next. But there's no military Solution that's going to get regime change in Iran as hard as for me to say that.
Joe Getty
It's frustrating but true. Even as a superpower like geopolitics, like in life, there are some problems you don't fix, you just manage them. That's the best you can do. Mike, last question from me anyway. I made a half light hearted reference to the discombobulator in introducing you. According to many accounts during the the raid on Maduro and Venezuela, guys were falling to their knees, bleeding from the eyes, whatever, and weapon systems were rendered inoperable. What, what's going on there? What's your best guess?
Mike Lyons
Yeah, so what I love about our country is we got things on the shelf that we can try and then we pull out for things like this. I spent some time the last couple of weeks down at a special ops command down at Tampa actually with their softworks, with their innovation center down there. And it's pretty amazing the kind of things that we have in this, you know, kind of James Bond foundry that exists in that building and the kind of things that we're developing, you know, from a creativity perspective. So we're just doing a lot more creative things in order to, you know, to assure that we have a military victory and we can exert our forces there using not only just kinetic but electronic and you know, turning the lights out, you know, cyber. There's all kinds of creative things that we're doing, thank God, a lot of levels. And so that's kind of what that's all about. And the President does a pretty good job of masking it and being and explaining it in a way that makes it mysterious and sounds like a James Bond movie. But I could tell you this, it's very interesting stuff.
Joe Getty
Do you think our adversaries are equal to us, China specifically in that realm?
Mike Lyons
No, I don't think so. I think part of it's creativity, part of it. What our advantage is always our fact that we think of stuff and actually go and do it. You know there was this, you saw the NATO chancellor or the NATO secretary say up there, said, you know, these countries have to spend 10 times the amount of budget in order to get militarialized. But what they would miss out is our innovation. And China doesn't innovate anything, it just copies. And so we put things out there that we don't even think is correct and China will try to copy and go down a rabbit hole and realize it doesn't kind of work. Maybe we're doing that with this golden dome system. And I still am not into anti missile defense systems. That's a conversation for another day. But what other countries don't have we have as a side of the great resources. It's just the innovation in order to get actually things done. And that's our advantage.
Joe Getty
Military analyst Mike Lyons. Mike, thanks so much for the time. Enjoyed it as always.
Mike Lyons
Great guy, thanks for having me.
Joe Getty
Well, interesting. We will have to drill down on that another day. Mike is sanguine about or skeptical of missile defense systems. How interesting.
Jack Armstrong
I wasn't gonna ask him this on the air, but I'll bet he has personal friends that have died at the hands of Iran. I'd be shocked if he didn't.
Joe Getty
Or, and their proxies obviously.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, they've killed Iran has been behind killing more Americans than any other country in the world over the last probably since World War II. Well, Vietnam, but yeah, so. But even with that he's got friends who probably died at the hands of the Iranian regime. He's not hawkish on the idea of trying to take this on because he doesn't think it would work.
Joe Getty
Right, right. Or you'd certainly have enough margin for doubt or reason to doubt that it'll come out. Well that you think. Eh, maybe not. Cuz it's tempting as hell just to think. All right, you what?
Jack Armstrong
That's enough of that. That's enough of that.
Joe Getty
The mullah and his freaking malevolent Islamist hateful sick regime. That's enough. Well, what comes next? Oh, I don't know. We're gonna find out, aren't we?
Mike Lyons
Yeah.
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Jack Armstrong
Tim Walls, governor of Minnesota, yesterday actually said, is this Fort Sumter, Minneapolis? And like the beginning of the Civil War.
Joe Getty
Would you shut up? God, that half wit. Can you imagine? He was almost vice president.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, dang it. Hunter Biden continues to be a scumbag, among other things we can talk about. Stay tuned.
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Exactly.
Joe Getty
Oh, speaking of classy, the that nurse whose TikTok videos, or Instagram, whatever it is, went viral suggesting how you could jab ice agents with needles full of paralyzing drugs or whatever, give them xlax so they can't get off the toilet and enforce the whatever. She's been fired from her job.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, really? Yeah, that's. I don't think that's like cancel culture. I think that's appropriate. You've got a nut job working for you.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Who specifically advocated using the tools of healing to damage law enforcement agents?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I mean, all the medical providers grab some syringes with needles on the end, you know, have them full of saline or succinylcholine, you know, whatever, whatever. That will probably be a deterrent. Yeah, that multi syllable slurry word she threw in there is the paralyzing agent Joe was talking about. So what, are you gonna steal that from the workplace here in syringes and then go attack people in government? Well, that's nice. How about you don't work here anymore.
Joe Getty
But not only did you think of it, you put it online. Well, right, yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Which is a certain sort of person. But it fits in with this whole cosplay we've been talking about for a week or so. These people who post this stuff and think this is all just like a TV show or a game or something like that, that there are no real world consequences for putting your, you know, your. Your name and your face out there and talking about attacking cops or whatever, like nothing's gonna happen. Cuz this is all just a game.
Joe Getty
Right? Right.
Jack Armstrong
I think it's a symptom that's nuts.
Joe Getty
It's a symptom of people living their lives heavily online because there are no, well, few real world consequences for your wild statements online. And also being in ideological bubbles, whether media or just personally.
Jack Armstrong
Well, we've talked about this before. People that have come after us like, cross the line and we have to get the cops involved, which we have done multiple times and will again if you do it, if you cross the line. But where they cross the line and then cops get a hold of them, they're like, oh, no, I didn't mean that. I just, I love the show. I just was, you know, trying to be funny or whatever.
Joe Getty
It's just, I was mad. I calmed down. I would never hurt anybody.
Jack Armstrong
But it's part of the whole. There are no, no real world ramifications for the things you say and do in this weird online crazy thing we live in.
Joe Getty
Yeah, keyboard warriors. I love that phrase. Next hour. Let's push it into next hour because I don't want to rush through it. And yes, by golly, by jingo, we do four hours of fabulous content. If you can't stick around or your local station doesn't get it or whatever, just grab it via podcast. Subscribe to Armstrong and Getty on Demand and give us a glowing five star review if you think of it. But it's a large nationwide poll about several specific education topics and policies. And what's become infinitely clear is once again, like we brought you the poll earlier, that Americans three to one say no freaking way boys ought to be in girls sports, even if they don a dress and mascara or whatever. No so called transgender girls in girls sports. It's overwhelming. And yet people are like afraid to even suggest that a couple years ago because of the loud, mean activist class. Well, if you look at all sorts of different school policies, the weight of the American public is 100% on the conservative side. Not 100%, Joe. You're literally going to describe the percentages of people who believe these things. You can't say 100%. It's a good point. Me. It's a good point you make. Anyway, let me rephrase that. It is overwhelmingly clear. That's funny that most Americans agree with you.
Jack Armstrong
Good people. Like, calling something priceless is with their price tag dangling from it, right?
Joe Getty
Yeah. This thing weighs a ton, Joe. It's a 50 pound weight sitting on.
Jack Armstrong
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This episode covers the Armstrong & Getty show's signature blend of biting media criticism, analysis of current events (especially regarding recent protests, police shootings, immigration, and U.S. foreign policy), and comedic personal anecdotes. The hosts, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, push back against political and ideological narratives in the media, discuss the challenges facing law enforcement and immigration authorities, and share stories that highlight both bureaucratic absurdities and the perils of social media culture. Special guest military analyst Mike Lyons provides an in-depth look at the risks and geopolitics of possible U.S. conflict with Iran.
(00:14 - 02:47)
"You got an audience there of lefties and you throw out a 'Trump's dumb' and everybody claps... How do you sleep at night?" —Jack (01:19)
"Ma’am, I have literally never seen a clip of you talking in which you are not complaining." —Unnamed commenter cited by Jack (01:49)
(02:48 - 07:18)
"If it matters what kind of guy he was, now we’re telling you what kind of guy he also was." —Jack (04:47)
(07:18 - 12:25)
"All we want is to talk to the person that local and state law enforcement authorities locked in a jail cell. They chose to lock this person up. That's who we want to talk to. The public safety threat... It's a bunch of crap, crap, crap." —Tom Holman (09:09)
(11:49 - 12:25, 34:39 - 36:18)
(12:25 - 17:11)
"If you can provide receipts... for everything in the bag... Maybe you're more organized than I am." —Jack (13:29) "Sir, let me make this clear to you. We took your money. Now we have your money. We're keeping your money. Click." —Joe (17:01)
"We can just eat your misery." —Jack on shipping companies' attitude (16:04)
(17:19 – 30:16)
"Iran is the weakest they've ever been, but they're not completely defenseless... an estimated 2,000 mid-range ballistic missiles." —Jack (17:43)
"There's no military solution that's going to get regime change in Iran... As hard as it is for me to say that." —Mike Lyons (26:44) "As a superpower... there are some problems you don't fix, you just manage them." —Joe (26:44)
"China doesn't innovate anything, it just copies." —Mike Lyons (28:22)
(32:26 – 34:39)
"You've got a nut job working for you." —Jack (32:44)
On Media Pandering:
"How do you sleep at night? I mean, that's just so embarrassingly red meat. Easy." —Jack Armstrong (01:24)
On Michelle Obama’s Comments:
"Ma’am, I have literally never seen a clip of you talking in which you are not complaining." —as relayed by Jack Armstrong (01:49)
On Shipping Companies:
"Sir, let me make this clear to you. We took your money. Now we have your money. We're keeping your money. Click." —Joe Getty (17:01)
On Approaching Police While Armed:
"You are playing a dangerous game." —Jack Armstrong (05:39)
On Immigration Enforcement:
"It's a bunch of crap, crap, crap." —Tom Holman on sanctuary arguments (09:09)
On the Limits of U.S. Power:
"There are some problems you don't fix, you just manage them." —Joe Getty (26:44)
On Corporate Apathy:
"We can just eat your misery." —Jack Armstrong on the attitude of shippers/insurers (16:04)
The episode features Armstrong & Getty’s trademark irreverence, directness, and skepticism—especially toward mainstream narratives, bureaucracy, and the culture of online outrage. Jokes, analogies, and sarcasm proliferate, but the discussion is substantive, especially in the segments with expert guest Mike Lyons.
This summary captures the main arc of the episode: a skeptical look at media narratives, the complex realities underlying current protest and law enforcement controversies, first-hand stories of bureaucracy-gone-mad, and a sobering expert analysis of U.S.-Iran tensions—all leavened with humor and bluntness. If you appreciate critical, funny, and sometimes contrarian takes on the news, plus serious policy discussion, this episode is representative Armstrong & Getty.