We Don't Have Time To Say Words. We Use Acronyms!

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand: "We Don't Have Time To Say Words. We Use Acronyms!"
Release Date: June 2, 2025
Host: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty
Description: The official, On-Demand podcast of The Armstrong & Getty Show! Accept no substitutes!

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1. Ukraine's Drone Strike: Operation Spiderweb

The episode begins with a harrowing report from Mike Lyons, detailing Ukraine's recent drone assault on Russia, dubbed Operation Spiderweb. This meticulously planned attack resulted in over 40 Russian aircraft being destroyed. The drones, resembling shipping containers with retractable roofs, were smuggled into Russian territory over a year and a half in the making. Notably, Ukraine executed this strike without prior notification to the United States, leading to significant losses of high-tech, billion-dollar aircraft for Russia, necessitating years for replacement.

Notable Quotes:

• Mike Lyons [00:27]: "Ukraine landing a punishing blow against Russia with a surprise drone attack... The high tech planes worth billions of dollars now in ruins and will take years to replace."
• Unknown Reporter [01:01]: "Some people are calling it an amazing attack from Ukraine. The way they got the drones into the country... shows real Capability."

2. Military Analysis: The Rise of Drone Swarms

Jack Armstrong invites military analyst Mike Lyons to dissect the implications of Ukraine's drone swarm. Lyons highlights Ukraine's ingenuity in outsmarting Russian air defenses, emphasizing the economic efficiency and tactical superiority of using cost-effective drones to neutralize expensive military hardware. He draws parallels to historical events, comparing the attack's impact to the Doolittle Raid, rather than Pearl Harbor, underscoring the strategic significance without the catastrophic scale.

Notable Quotes:

• Mike Lyons [02:20]: "Drones... economic efficiency of this, taking about 50 grand worth of drones and knocking out hundreds of millions of dollars of Russian hardware, it shows real Capability."
• Mike Lyons [03:55]: "You have a tremendous war fighting capability that just hasn't existed on the battlefield yet."

3. Implications for U.S. and NATO Defense Strategies

The discussion shifts to the broader implications for U.S. and NATO defense mechanisms. Lyons warns of the potential threat posed by nations like China, who could adopt similar drone swarm tactics. He stresses the need for advanced defense systems that can counteract the mass and coordination of autonomous drones, indicating a significant shift from traditional one-for-one defense approaches to more complex, layered security measures.

Notable Quotes:

• Mike Lyons [06:08]: "There's no rules that said they have to be out in the open... now countries are going back to the drawing board figuring out how do I defend against something like this."
• Mike Lyons [07:20]: "It's going to be a much more difficult asset to protect... the days of just putting a Patriot missile in front of these nuclear capable bombers are over."

4. Pivot to China: Defense Postures Around Taiwan

Transitioning to geopolitical tensions, Lyons addresses the recent statements by Germany and other NATO allies supporting Ukraine's right to strike deeper into Russian territory. The conversation quickly pivots to the potential threat from China regarding Taiwan. Lyons expresses concern over China's possible deployment of containerized weaponry near U.S. shores, comparing it to Ukraine's tactics. He emphasizes the precarious balance required to defend Taiwan without escalating into direct conflict with China, highlighting the delicate nature of modern military engagements.

Notable Quotes:

• Mike Lyons [10:25]: "They could do the same thing to us and threaten the United States if we decide to get involved militarily..."
• Mike Lyons [11:08]: "There's no other way to effectively knock down any kind of military action there because that, that attack would come from China."

5. Terrorist Attack in Colorado: A National Reflection

The conversation becomes somber as Armstrong and Getty discuss a recent terrorist attack in Colorado. An individual, identified as Muhammad Sabri Solomon from Egypt, set Americans on fire while chanting anti-Jewish rhetoric. The hosts critique the slow response and the media's reluctance to label the event as terrorism, linking it to broader societal issues such as Islamophobia and the influence of "woke" narratives that dampen critical discussions about extremist actions.

Notable Quotes:

• Jack Armstrong [17:06]: "This is a measure of how successful the whole woke college campus victim oppressor narrative thing has been..."
• Jack Armstrong [21:59]: "Globalize the intifada means kill Jews everywhere."

6. Gender Policies in Sports: The Controversy Unfolds

The episode delves into the contentious issue of transgender athletes competing in female sports categories. Highlighting incidents in California and Oregon, Armstrong and Getty criticize the new policies that allow transgender girls to compete against biological females, arguing that it undermines fair competition and raises safety concerns. They express frustration over the lack of significant backlash and the administrative measures taken to accommodate these athletes, portraying it as a manifestation of broader "gender bending madness."

Notable Quotes:

• Jack Armstrong [28:10]: "We just need to stand up for these young ladies and make sure that we're protecting their sports and protecting their private spaces."
• Jack Armstrong [29:00]: "It's madness. It's gender bending madness."

7. Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts

In the concluding segments, Armstrong and Getty reflect on the intertwining of societal issues with national security and cultural shifts. They lament the slow pace of societal awakening to threats, be it from foreign aggression or internal socio-political changes. The hosts emphasize the importance of education and media vigilance in addressing these challenges, hoping for a collective realization and proactive measures to safeguard national interests and cultural integrity.

Notable Quotes:

• Jack Armstrong [24:43]: "We've been yelling about this as it's unfolding and now the birds are coming home to roost. Let's hope, you know, America wakes up in time."
• Mike Lyons [12:20]: "This is a big wake up call for everybody... we're taking the human element out of the decision making... going down a very slippery slope."

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Conclusion

In this episode, Armstrong and Getty navigate through critical global and domestic issues, from cutting-edge military strategies and geopolitical tensions to pressing societal debates on terrorism and gender policies in sports. By integrating expert analysis and impassioned commentary, the hosts provide listeners with a comprehensive and thought-provoking examination of the complexities shaping our world today.

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Notable Timestamps:

• 00:27 - 01:38: Introduction to Ukraine's Operation Spiderweb.
• 01:45 - 07:20: Military analysis with Mike Lyons on drone swarms and defense implications.
• 10:25 - 12:20: Discussion on China’s military posture concerning Taiwan.
• 17:06 - 23:34: Examination of the Colorado terrorist attack and its societal implications.
• 26:33 - 35:29: Debate on gender policies in sports and their broader impact.

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For those seeking timely and in-depth discussions on current events, Armstrong & Getty On Demand continues to deliver compelling content that challenges conventional narratives and provokes critical thought.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

This is an iHeart podcast broadcasting live.

[Joe Getty]

From the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Mike Lyons]

Ukraine landing a punishing blow against Russia with a surprise drone attack. Attack dubbed Operation spiderweb. More than 40 aircraft ablaze after the highly sophisticated operation was launched Sunday. The attack that was a year and a half in the planning. The drones were transported to Russia inside what looked to be shipping containers with retractable roofs that could be opened remotely. The drones flying out on their mission. The Ukrainians did not inform the US Ahead of time. The high tech planes worth billions of dollars now in ruins and will take years to replace.

[Unknown]

It looks like around 30% or higher of their strategic bombers were destroyed. Some of these drones were as low as $500 taking out million dollar aircraft. $500 drones taking out multimillion dollar aircraft. A third of their strategic bombers blown up Russia's Pearl Harbor. Some people are calling it an amazing attack from Ukraine. The way they got the drones into the country and then had them in these crates in which the lid automatically opened up and the drones flew out. And they'd been behind, according to Zelinsky yesterday, they'd been planning this for a year and a half.

[Jack Armstrong]

Amazing stuff. Let's discuss with our military analyst Mike Lyons. Mike, it's always a pleasure. How are you?

[Mike Lyons]

Hey guys, great to be back with you.

[Unknown]

You called it in your tweet yesterday. A significant increase in capabilities by the Ukrainians. Explain that.

[Mike Lyons]

Yeah, I mean, they combine their imagination with regard to what they think they can do and, you know, outthinking Russia on so many perspectives. Number one, getting through their, the Russian air defense systems. I mean, this was something that the United States never thought we would be able to get through. And you know, if we were having a, you know, Cold War type nuclear attack, we thought the Russian air defense platforms were going to be amazing. The fact that they were able to target and get as specific they were with this drone swarm. We've not really seen the drone swarm. That's a huge threat. Now from a military perspective, we're concerned about Chinese military doing that. You know, you watch these Chinese light shows with drones and I always look at them saying, boy, if there was an armament on each one of those things, we would be in trouble. So you bring all that all together and to your point about the economic efficiency of this, taking about 50 grand worth of drones and knocking out hundreds of millions of dollars of Russian hardware, it shows real Capability. I wouldn't put it at the Pearl harbor level. I mean, obviously we know what that led. I think, I think it's more of a Doolittle raider level type operation. It really is a big punch in the nose to Russia. We'll have to see now what retaliation looks like. But you take Ukraine's tremendous imagination combined with Russia just not thinking it through, and you get the result that we feel.

[Jack Armstrong]

So, Mike, you've already partially answered this question, but help us understand why drones of this sort of, as opposed to missiles, you know, standard armaments, what are the capabilities? Why are they so effective?

[Mike Lyons]

So in a swarming perspective, from a formation, they highlight the principle of mass that are used. You know, a missile is very accurate, provides, you know, kind of a one for one, travels at a tremendous speed. Maybe you can't knock it out, but if you put 10,000 drones in the sky and they can do a lot of different things, and you lay over now artificial intelligence on those, you take the human element out of the decision of what targets they go to hit. You have a tremendous war fighting capability that just hasn't existed on the battlefield yet. I mean, this is from the economic perspective alone. I mean, we, you know, we look at equipment to take out tanks, for example. We have, we have equipment that takes out Russian tanks that's not as expensive as a tank. You know, a tank is the best thing to take out another tank, for example. But you combine all those things and you get this kind of massive change. I had been waiting to see whether we were going to see a drone swarm. I thought it would a drone. I thought we would see it inside Ukraine itself. You could see, for example, the Russians haven't done it. That shows you that they don't have this kind of capability. And the targets that they would likely go after would be critical infrastructure. They don't even have to go after the military targets, go after critical infrastructure. Now what Ukraine did, you know, doesn't violate the laws of modern warfare. They go after a military target. But I'd be concerned about our enemies looking at critical infrastructure on the United States that I think is the softest of all targets that a drone swarm would be very effective at.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yikes. So it occurs to me that for folks who haven't been following the story over the weekend, a couple of facts might be helpful. This absolutely unique operation, that's a quote from Zelensky, involved 117 drones. Ukrainian intelligence officials said the agency moved the small quadcopter drones to Russian territory, then moved wooden containers to Russia, which were used to hide the drones ahead of the attack. When it came to the strike, the containers were placed on trucks and the lids of the containers opened remotely. And the swarm of drones, like a swarm of bees flew out to find their targets.

[Mike Lyons]

Yeah, yeah, all artificial intelligence based and knew exactly where they were going to be. There was some, I saw some false reporting about whether or not these planes were not allowed to be in hangars and could be covered up because of some, you know, trees between the Russian United States. That's just not true.

[Unknown]

Okay, yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. I hadn't thought of that. But yeah, there's a bunch of stuff floating around on the Internet that Ukraine violated international nuclear treaties by attacking these planes. It's a rule, but we all have to have all these planes out in the open, blah, blah, blah. You're saying that's not true?

[Mike Lyons]

No, that's not true. I mean there were open sky treaties that were back in the 80s and 90s and most of them expired in early 2000s. And the only thing we really have is the New START treaty. But Russia and the United States backed out of that in 2023. So there's no rules that said they have to be out in the open. In fact, they're out in the open for operational purposes because in case you have to get into a plane quick and get it going, they're stored on the runways for that reason. So that's where the trade off was. Now again, they still should have been protected by air defense assets. I mean close in tactical air defense assets, but bring back the drone swarm. Those close in tactical air defense assets are usually a one for one. So now countries are going to have to be thinking, how do I protect from a drone swarm? You think about you're going to need multiple more drones. You're going to have to net other physical kind of aspects to figure out, you know, kind of what that looks like. So everybody's gone back to the drawing board now figuring out how do I defend, how do our country defend against something like this? How do we defend critical infrastructure? It's not. The days of just putting a Patriot missile in front of these nuclear capable bombers are over. Because that was a one for one, you know, kind of segue. This is going to be a much more difficult asset to protect.

[Unknown]

So how big a deal is it that a little over a week ago the leader of Germany said, hey, restrictions are off Ukraine now they can fire as far into Russia as they want and we're on board with that so is Britain, so is the United States, so is France. How big a deal is that?

[Mike Lyons]

No, probably a big deal because all this assets are coming from NATO, they're coming from the West. It is and isn't an escalation. We saw that the Biden administration didn't want any kind of escalation. I'm still not sure where the Trump administration is going to land on this. If they're going to, you know, I've not seen anything that's come out about that. Whether they knew about the attack, what exactly going on there. I've not necessarily seen where they're going to land on this. I think given the way Vladimir Putin had been acting the week, the past few weeks, I think you're going to see support from the United States, but we just don't know. But all these assets come, in most cases come where the technology comes. Look, the reason why Ukraine knew that those bombers were those where they were is obviously because of US intelligence that pinpointed them to probably 14 digit grid coordinates as to where those planes were going to be. And that's kind of the assets that were provided to Ukraine in order to make that attack happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're talking to military analyst Mike Lyons. Mike, I read just earlier today that Russia has a fairly limited supply of these long range bombers and that it's not even clear how many of them are operational given their, you know, the sorry state of their military. What do you know about that?

[Mike Lyons]

Yeah, the Tupelo bomber, long range, these were the things that we were worried about back in the 1980s and that's why we created the B1, the B2, these long range nuclear capable bombers that can go great distances from where they were going to be launched from. You know, they're well on the other side of the Ural Mountains, for example, and from Russia's perspective, you know, outside of any capability to be monitored. But they could easily have reached anywhere in Western Europe and go in the other direction, possibly hit the west coast of the United States. But they're old. But that's not to say that they're not good because we still use the B52 airframe and we know that that that airframe has been almost 80 years in existence now at this point. But Russia hasn't necessarily developed new technology to replace the specific bombers. The new technology they've developed have been more air to air. They've been more of different kind of stealth fighters that don't necessarily carry the same level of equipment that these ones carried. So no question it's a loss from their perspective and whether they have the parts so they can get them back up to speed, but they still have some capability to do that. This at this point.

[Unknown]

Joe, how do you feel about a pivot to China?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's fine. Let's pivot.

[Unknown]

So SecDef hegseth over the weekend gave a pretty exciting speech talking about we're going to move some ship destroying equipment close enough to Taiwan if China decided to make that move, et cetera, et cetera, we're ready to defend Taiwan. Where are you on that whole story?

[Mike Lyons]

Well, I think there's going to be enough indicators whether China is going to actually do that or not. I think we've got to be concerned about China placing assets close to the United States in containers like what Ukraine did.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Mike Lyons]

They could do the same thing to us and threaten the United States if we decide to get involved militarily there by bringing these civilian container ships close to US Cities, for example. And should we decide to attack inside of China, which is what we would have to do to defend Taiwan. There's no other way around that. And so, wow, let's not go buy that real quick.

[Unknown]

So if, if they move on Taiwan, we have to attack inside China to defend Taiwan.

[Mike Lyons]

There's no other. Yeah, there's no other way to effectively knock down any kind of military action there because that, that attack would come from China. The China missiles would be landing in inside of Taiwan. I mean, there's no way they can perform a, you know, seaborne invasion of Taiwan without indirect air assets coming from the mainland China. So we would have to, we would decide we must have to attack what those assets would be, and they would not attack Taiwan unless they had that with them. If you're a soldier on the ground, you're not going to go in without the combined forces of all your capability, which is really what that would mean, which is why I think in some ways this is all creating this deterrence. But as we, you know, it's going to be very much telegraphed as to whether or not they're going to do this or not. Because if we see them moving assets, these container assets close to the United States or see what's going on there, we'll have an idea as to whether or not this is happening or not. We can short circuit that by saying, hey, look, you're going to have to move these ships and stuff that you have close to the United States because we think they're going to threaten us based on a drone swarm that could happen from China to us.

[Jack Armstrong]

Holy cow. This is almost too much to contemplate. Military analyst Mike Lyons. Mike, go ahead. Was there one more thing you were going to say?

[Mike Lyons]

No, I think this is a big wake up call for everybody. You know, you see this president talking about Golden Dome, and I think this is now the perfect confluence of, you know, artificial intelligence into drone systems. And the golden dome that we all remember from the strategic initiatives back from the Reagan administration in the 80s did more to put a psychological advantage with us over Russia. It eventually bankrupts the country. But in this case, you know, think like what they do in Israel right now with the Iron Dome system. You know, the more and more warfare is going on, we're taking the human element out of the decision making and what the targets are, that's going down a very slippery slope. But I think we're going to see a lot more of that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Military analyst Mike Lyons. Mike. Fascinating and chilling. Thanks so much for the time.

[Mike Lyons]

Great, guys. Thanks for having me. Anytime.

[Jack Armstrong]

Holy crap. Yeah. As if the autonomous AI systems that refused to be turned off wasn't going to haunt my dreams, now I have this.

[Unknown]

Oh, my God.

[Jack Armstrong]

Fabulous. Great. Super.

[Unknown]

I know when I had him on, you were off for some reason, I think when you're at the Masters golf tournament and he talked about China striking Los Angeles, San Francisco, and I was like, God dang it, could that actually happen? I suppose I could. Of course it could actually happen.

[Jack Armstrong]

But, yeah, you know, you know what's funny about America, and we talked about this last week in context. Russia is. We have so not been attacked on our homeland. It seems like, oh, no, no, no. Nobody would ever do that. That would be a bridge, far too far. And every other country on earth is like, tap it off 30 times.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Oh, my God, would that get our attention? Anyway, if you have any thoughts on that, text line. 415295, KFTC.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Unknown]

I'm a former McDonald's corporate chef. I am gonna divulge some information for you. Nobody believes me. Just to confirm this magic seasoning, they legally have to post the ingredient statement on their website. I'll even put the meat ingredient statement. It's just salt and pepper. There's literally no other things in it. 86% salt, 14 pepper. The hamburger, the McDouble, the double cheeseburger and the Big Mac. Same seasoning is used on their quarter pounders. If you not think this is true, along with the beef being all beef, go sue them. You could bring that product to an independent lab.

Okay, well, I Didn't get to the secret sauce on the Big Mac, but they're saying it's posted.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thousand island dressing, isn't it?

[Unknown]

I think so. But that. That's interesting. I suppose that has to be true. Yeah. You can't actually have a secret.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Unknown]

At a big, giant nationwide corporate restaurant. Yeah, but nobody's ever. I don't. I don't care enough to ever go to the website and look.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, no, I don't care at all.

[Unknown]

I shouldn't ever eat it again. Is my. Is what my most. My main thought.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, it can't. It doesn't need to be precise, obviously. I mean, because you got like KFC's Seven Herbs and Spices. I don't get to know precisely how much cloves and oregano or whatever. Yeah, okay. All right. Yeah. And so the secret sauce is just Thousand island dressing, which in turn is just ketchup and mayonnaise. Mayonnaise. Right. Anyway, how much time do we have, Michael? I'm not sure. We haven't time to do anything significant here. Oh, we do. Okay. So I've mentioned a couple of times, Judy and I are having a remodel done and a fair amount of it has to do with the back wall. Okay. Of the house that kind of faces out into the weather and everything. And we'd known there was some water penetration in there. You got kind of bulgy trim work there.

[Unknown]

Oh, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wait a minute. Is that discolored? Did somebody paint over that? And so in opening the wall up, any contractor can tell you, you open a house up, you never know what you're going to find. There was so much rot in there that the new plan as of today. Today is, yeah, we're coming inside your house weeks ahead of schedule because they were going to do outdoor stuff first, then inside stuff. But no, we're coming in today. We're going to tear down the back wall. First we're going to build a new wall inside your home. Temporary. Then we're going to tear down the back wall of your home. Then we're going to build a new back wall of your home and then we're going to tear down the new. New. Temporary.

[Unknown]

Temporary one.

[Jack Armstrong]

Back wall of your home. Yes. Yes.

[Unknown]

Sounds like a lot of noise for a long time.

[Jack Armstrong]

A poop show. Yes, indeed. I'm looking into long term rentals. This is. I'm out. Goodbye. Oh, man. Oh, and we got our daughter's cats and they're looking around, they're hearing all this noise and my dog's nervous and I'm nervous. There's no way to live.

[Unknown]

Boy, the finding out that previous owners painted over a bunch of rot. I've had that experience before or in.

[Jack Armstrong]

Any contractor will tell you this. The crappy job builders do in sealing stuff and caulking stuff, they don't care. They paper it over and say move in, it's ready.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Unknown]

The reporting around the terrorist attack in Colorado is. It's odd to me that we're not focusing more on the fact that this is. I assume he's a Muslim dude. I mean based on his name, he is here illegally. I mean he's yelling free Palestine as he sets Jewish supporters on fire after 9 11. I mean we were so on guard about this sort of thing. Now we just, well, you know, what are you going to do? I don't understand but maybe we'll talk about that more later.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I was going to say on air meeting. I just as soon dive into that. And we can do what we're going to do in a few minutes just because this is so important. And you're absolutely right, it's a great point. And I think this is a measure of how successful the whole woke college campus victim oppressor narrative thing has been because they have convinced people, whether wittingly or kind of subconsciously that oh, if it's like the Palestinians or Muslim people or something like that, they're the victims you remember and you can't really criticize them. And there's. People have become uncomfortable with what was acutely just obvious in the wake of 911 and the other terrorist attacks around the country by Islamo fascists.

[Unknown]

You got a guy again, you got a guy named Muhammad Sabri Solomon from Egypt. He's here illegally and he said leave Jews out of it. He sent a bunch of Americans on fire. So doesn't that fit into the whole Muslim extremist we got to be on guard thing?

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

100. Of course. Michael, play 30 for us.

[Unknown]

From my point of view, all of a sudden I felt the heat like it was a Molotov cocktail equivalent. A gas bomb in a glass jar thrown of saw it a big flame as high as a tree and all I saw was someone on fire.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then next clip he had said.

[Unknown]

Something along the lines of, I mean Ethel, you Zionists, this is for killing my people or you kill my people, you guys should all die.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Keeping in mind that Egypt, this guy was an Egyptian, won't take any Palestinian refugees. They don't want them. Every country that's accepted large Amounts of Palestinian. Large numbers of Palestinian refugees has ended up with violence and revolution in their country. So your Muslim Middle Eastern countries want no part of that. This lunatic decided to set fire to Americans.

[Unknown]

He, you know, you got the whole he was here illegally thing. How many people got into this country or have stayed during this crazy period of time of mass immigration that planned to do us ill? We will find out over time, I suppose. That's a horrifying thought.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah, yeah. The number of Africans and. And Middle Easterners who came in that particular list of gripes. You know, never mind the gang members and everybody else. It's just. You could. You can employ the greatest speechwriters known to man to write you an eloquent description of how profound the betrayal of our national security was by the Biden administration opening up the border. And it would not. Not be sufficient. It would not be enough to. To. To accurately describe the horror of what was allowed to happen. Because it will unfold for years and years and years.

[Unknown]

So now you got twice in two weeks and three times in two months somebody yelling free Palestine. The one two months ago was when they tried to burn down Governor Shapiro's house with his family in it. And they luckily got out without anybody hurt. But that was a free Palestine guy. Then you had the murders, diplomats two weeks ago. We know that story that the couple that was going to get married and then this over the weekend. So at what point does Free Palestine become a phrase that is attached to terrorism and then.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or.

[Unknown]

Or the whole globalize the intifada that college kids get to chant on, scream at Jewish students as they try to walk to class. This is globalizing the intifada. This is what it is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Globalize. The intifada means kill Jews everywhere.

[Unknown]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which is happening. The New York Times headline is live updates. Colorado attacker is in U.S. illegally. Homeland Security Department says so the FBI.

[Unknown]

Calls it a terrorist attack. At least as of this morning. The Boulder Police Department was not. They're saying, we're still not comfortable calling it a terrorist attack. Do we do more? Boulder is like Berkeley or any other super lefty city in America. So they. They're not comfortable with that. Of course.

[Jack Armstrong]

Unfreaking believable.

[Unknown]

Now, if you've seen the video, the reason the guy is shirtless is because he accidentally set himself on fire with his flammable li. Liquid. His own shirt. So he had to take his shirt off. But he's standing there ranting and raving about the Jews in Palestine and Gaza and that sort of stuff as he douses people, people inflammable liquid and sets them on fire. People were rolling on the ground screaming. Several people. Nobody has died yet or it's been reported, even though the FBI indictment includes a murder charge. Nobody's been reported dead yet, but people are near death. What a horrible way to go. Oh, my God.

[Jack Armstrong]

Four men and four women ranging in age from 52 to 88 were hospitalized with injuries, at least two of them flown by helicopter to a burn unit in Denver.

[Unknown]

People were trying to. But there was no water available, so people were running to a fountain that was near where the march was and filling up whatever big cup they had or whatever and running back and trying to port on people. But obviously that's a slow way to try to put out a fire.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it's worth pointing out that this walk that they have regularly, I think it's weekly this organization holds. It's a walk to free the hostages. That's it. It's not a defeat Hamas or Down with the Palestinians or up with Israel. It's just a please free the hostages walk. This guy attempt to burn a bunch of people to death anyway. We are so slow to awake in this country. It's the other side of the coin. We were talking last week, it was actually a very good segment, hour four of Friday show about how. Why Americans misjudged Vladimir Putin over and over and over again. It's because we're friendly, let's do business, naive dopes, globally speaking. And it's gonna take a while for us to wake up to the threat that the threat among us and. And the threat we've created by educating our kids to hate us. But anyway, I'm sorry, I don't want to go completely dark and negative because there's plenty of good news in the world.

[Mike Lyons]

I just.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you know what? We've been yelling about this as it's unfolding and now the birds are coming home to roost. Let's hope, you know, America wakes up in time.

[Unknown]

Tangentially to this story would be the. Still hard to figure out what's exactly going on with the attempted food distributions in Gaza. Oh, yeah, who keeps shooting, firing off guns. That's figuring out if is Israeli soldiers trying to protect themselves or they lost their minds or whatever it is, or is it Hamas or whoever it is. But anyway, this cartoon was making the rounds on social media yesterday. It shows a newsroom with a news anchor and like a producer running up and saying, normally we don't trust terror groups, but when Hamas says Israel did something Terrible. We must report it immediately without verification. Because every news organization has been reporting. Well, not every, but many of your mainstream news organizations have been reporting that it's Israel firing on the food distributions. Because that's what Hamas told them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right?

[Unknown]

Their. Their source is Hamas. I mean, how crazy is that?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I know. I will read an account of what happened and think this might be entirely true. Entirely untrue. Or somewhere in between. I have no way of knowing. Turn the page.

[Unknown]

Well, why would you. You ever even assume for a second that with Hamas is the source, you're getting the actual story?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, right. And why in the world, if you have any. Well, I know the answer to this question, but I'll go ahead and ask it. Why in the world would you, as a quote unquote journalist, not say Hamas authorities claim this? It cannot be verified. Just write it like that. If you want to say what they claim. Well, it's because we are reaping what we've sowed. These. The people writing and editing those articles are the graduates of Columbia Journalism School that we've been talking about now for years. They are now out among us. The. The body snatchers have infiltrated the population. They're in the nation's newsrooms and they're. They're living out their training.

[Unknown]

Okay, well, so we got some interesting doings with dudes competing in girls track and field. And in a couple of different ways to handle that situation, girls standing up for themselves.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's right. Speaking of good news, you want to.

[Unknown]

Get your Gender Bending Madness update when we come back?

[Jack Armstrong]

Back. I love that idea.

[Unknown]

Fantastic.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Unknown]

Yo, yo, yo. Last week of school for my. For one kid. My other kid's gonna do summer school all year long. He's homeschooled. Long story. I'll tell you later. But anyway, the older one is very excited.

[Jack Armstrong]

Excellent. Happy summer to him and to youngsters everywhere. But it's time for a Gender Bending Madness update.

[Unknown]

So I kept hearing about this thing called.

Del Locos. We're in a brave new world.

[Jack Armstrong]

Special GBM pride month edition. Welcome to it.

[Unknown]

GBM. Oh, gender bending madness.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, yes, yes, exactly. It's 21st century. We don't have time to say words. We just use acronyms, abbreviations. We use parts of words. So anyway, let's. Let's start with Jonathan Seri. This is in Cal Unicornia, special sports edition of Gender Bending Madness Updates.

[Unknown]

More than 1500 students competed over two days, but the spotlight was firmly on just one. This one 16 year old transgender athlete, Ab Hernandez. Whose participation has sparked protests from President Trump on down to parents of girls competing against Hernandez.

[Jack Armstrong]

We just need to stand up for.

[Mike Lyons]

These young ladies and make sure that we're protecting their sports and protecting their private spaces.

[Jack Armstrong]

Roll on, Michael. Roll on.

[Unknown]

Hernandez placed first in both the high jump and triple. In each case, under new California Interscholastic Federation rules introduced for this championship, the athlete who placed second was promoted to joint first alongside Hernandez. And the podium, as you see there, was shared. None of the girls who competed against Hernandez appeared to stage any sort of protest.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the new rule in California is, yeah, you're in first and you the second place person. Since you're an actual girl, you're also in first.

[Unknown]

What the hell?

[Jack Armstrong]

It's madness. It's gender bending madness.

[Unknown]

The hell? So they're trying to fix the whole. So you finished first in the high school track meet for, like, qualifying for scholarships or anything for college or any of that stuff?

[Jack Armstrong]

Medals, trophies, etc? Sure.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? And because this 8020 issue, and give me five minutes, it would be a 93 to 7 issue. Seriously, with that 20%, it was boys and girls sports. It's. It's 66 to something like 25among Democrats friends.

[Unknown]

Right. So who's this for? Well, the loudest activists on Twitter.

[Jack Armstrong]

The loudest leftist activists. Exactly. Who happen to be, you know, running rampant in California. And also. Clip 28 in Oregon.

[Joe Getty]

And in Oregon, two female student athletes refused to take the podium alongside a transgender athlete who had competed as a boy in the past two years of their state championships over the weekend, the two girls would eventually be asked to leave the area by event officials.

[Unknown]

Wow. So the girls were asked to leave. Not the dude.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oregon has threatened to ban girls from competing for wearing T shirts that say Save girls sports. Oregon is diseased. I'm surprised. It's a wonderful place, but it's diseased.

[Unknown]

I'm surprised there hasn't been a bigger pushback against us. I was talking about this with somebody yesterday, how there haven't been, like, more dads on a basketball court losing their minds, trying to rally the crowd against letting a dude play. Or like, somebody hasn't come along and staged a. Let's have our own high school championship over here. You all do your thing, we're gonna do ours over here, and everybody just goes over there and lets the girls compete against girls.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? Yeah, I know. This ice, I pray, will be a blip in our history. And as we've said many times years down the. You'll try to explain to people what happened? They won't believe you. Wait a minute. They let boys compete against the girls? Why now? Well, because they said they were girls. Well, and they'd taken a couple of hormones and were. Had a ponytail.

[Unknown]

And if you protest.

[Jack Armstrong]

But they're still boys, Grandpa. Yeah, I know.

[Unknown]

If you protested as a high school girl, they'd kick you out of the.

[Jack Armstrong]

Event, but they'd let the boy win your medals. That's correct.

[Unknown]

Oh, my God.

[Jack Armstrong]

That had to make you mad, Grandpa. It sure did, son. It sure did. Anyway, moving along. Just absolute madness. I'm gonna summarize. Excuse me. The study, because it's. It's fairly long and involved, but this is a study done of Canadian inmates and offenders of various sorts and the trends in offending among men, women, trans men and trans women, women. Now, if those terms, like Jack, confuse you, not that Jack confuses you, but if those terms confuse you like they confuse Jack there, that's a much more sentence.

[Unknown]

I'm easily confused.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just you can think fake instead of trans, fake men or fake women, or new men and new women. But anyway, what's really interesting about this, this study is that when it comes to sexual assault, well, like among, you know, homicide, it's. It's more men. As you might expect, it's a shocking number of, quote unquote, trans women, dudes pretending to be women, commit homicides. A fair number of women and a lesser number of women who've become men. Assault is kind of up and down. Robbery is, you know, no newly arrived men commit robbery because that implies force, the threat of force, or the use of force. The number of trans women, former, well, dudes pretending to be women, is actually higher than any other group committing robberies. Drugs, very few. But sexual assault, assault, it's only men and trans women, meaning fake women. And in fact, sexual assault is a huge percentage of the transgender fellas behind bars. When it comes to testosterone and other hormones, aggression, sexual aggression, there is nobody, nobody, nobody who's either a female or an actual female who's now dressed up as a guy who does this. Percentage wise, the idea that, well, that's a trans woman, so that's really a woman, is belied by virtually every single statistic from speed, strength, oxygen capacity, lung capacity, you know, heart rate, blah, blah, blah, aggression, sexual assault. Those are dudes. Those are dudes in every meaningful regard. And the point of this article is how outrageous it is that male sex offenders who now present as women ought to be in women's prisons because in terms of sexual offense, they're absolutely dudes and maybe even more prone to sexual offenses than regular dudes. It's a gender bending madness update, Jack.

[Unknown]

That's the ending.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is the ending.

[Unknown]

The, the whole track and field thing. I, it's, what's so weird about me. This to me is it's such a tail wagging the dog situation. It's, it's, it's a, almost everybody wants it to stop, but.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, right. But education and media, but especially education. Education is going to be the, the Japanese soldier still hiding in the jungle in 1968, thinking World War II is still going. It's going to take forever to clean the madness out of education. Wow.

[Unknown]

Anyway, if you miss a segment of the show, we do four hours every day, get our podcast, Armstrong and Getty on demand.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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