We Got People Running Around Dressed As Pancakes & Bacon

Summary

Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand – "We Got People Running Around Dressed As Pancakes & Bacon"

Podcast Information:

• Title: Armstrong & Getty On Demand
• Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts
• Episode: We Got People Running Around Dressed As Pancakes & Bacon
• Release Date: July 29, 2025

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1. Introduction

The episode, titled "We Got People Running Around Dressed As Pancakes & Bacon," features hosts Joe Getty and Michael engaging in a candid and often controversial discussion on current events, societal issues, and miscellaneous news. Throughout the episode, they intersperse their conversation with advertisements for Annabe sofas and address various topics ranging from geopolitical crises to sports and media criticisms.

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2. Starvation in Gaza Debate

Timestamp: [01:16] – [08:38]

The hosts delve into the ongoing humanitarian crisis in Gaza, expressing skepticism about the credibility of reported starvation claims. They critically assess the sources of information, particularly questioning the reliability of the Gaza Health Ministry, which is run by Hamas.

• Joe Getty [01:16]: "There is no policy of starvation in Gaza and there is no starvation in Gaza."

• Michael [02:55]: "Because you're wildly biased. But yeah, that's a fair assessment of it."

Getty challenges the validity of reports stating that over 60,000 have died, highlighting that these figures come from Hamas-controlled sources. He underscores the difficulty in discerning the truth amidst conflicting narratives.

• Joe Getty [03:05]: "Because if your argument includes quotes from Hamas, then you don't know what's going on either."

Michael introduces insights from Matty Friedman's article in The Free Press, which emphasizes the challenges of obtaining accurate information in an "information war." Friedman advocates for Israel to "flood Gaza with food" to prevent further humanitarian decline, suggesting that such actions would bolster international support for Israel.

• Michael [06:06]: "Matty Friedman... says... 'Mass starvation is not yet the reality, but it could be in the near future.'"

The conversation further critiques media bias, noting the lack of coverage on other global starvation crises and attributing it to racial and geopolitical biases.

• Joe Getty [09:17]: "There are a bunch of places in the world right now people are starving... and none of y' all cared."

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3. International Recognition of Palestine

Timestamp: [11:36] – [13:38]

Getty and Michael discuss recent developments where France and the UK announced intentions to recognize a Palestinian state, breaking ranks with longstanding allies like the United States.

• Joe Getty [12:32]: "President Macron announced that France was going to recognize a Palestinian state... The UN is almost entirely anti-Israel, but we had stuck together."

Michael questions the practicality and legitimacy of such recognitions, citing the lack of a coherent government and agreed-upon borders for Palestine.

• Michael [12:38]: "But I don't think France is going to be able to fulfill the threat, nor Britain. How do you recognize a state that doesn't exist?"

Getty expresses skepticism about the impact of these recognitions, suggesting they may not significantly alter the geopolitical landscape.

• Joe Getty [13:15]: "Trump... says who cares? What difference does it make if France recognizes Palestinian state. It doesn't have any actual effect."

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4. Miscellaneous News

Timestamp: [14:39] – [22:17]

a. Inmate Mistaken Release

A brief discussion highlights a case where an inmate in New Orleans was mistakenly released due to a confusion of similar names.

• Joe Getty [14:55]: "Louisiana needs to take a look at their whole jail system. They got some problems there."

b. People Dressed as Breakfast Foods

The hosts humorously comment on individuals dressing up as pancakes and bacon, reflecting on societal trends and personal amusement.

• Joe Getty [15:04]: "There's a guy on Let's Make a Deal dressed as a pancake."
• Michael [15:46]: "Oh, so it's not much dumber than white supremacy and eugenics."

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5. Sports News

Timestamp: [20:24] – [28:32]

a. Deion Sanders' Cancer Diagnosis and Recovery

Joe Getty shares an emotional update about NFL legend Deion Sanders, who was diagnosed with aggressive bladder cancer but is now considered cured following surgery.

• Joe Getty [20:24]: "NFL great Deion Sanders emotional as he reveals his battle with cancer."
• Michael [21:04]: "Sometimes the more aggressive forms are easier to treat."

b. Baseball Hall of Fame Inductions

The conversation shifts to recent baseball Hall of Fame inductees, celebrating the achievements of players like Dick Allen, Dave Parker, Cece Sabathia, Ichiro Suzuki, and Billy Wagner.

• Jack Armstrong [23:27]: "Five men have joined baseball's all-time greats in Cooperstown."

c. Spot-Fixing in Sports Betting

Michael introduces the topic of spot-fixing, explaining how minor, specific bets in sports can be manipulated. They discuss recent suspensions in Major League Baseball related to unusual betting patterns.

• Michael [25:32]: "Spot fixing... could be tough to stop."
• Joe Getty [27:11]: "There's the problem with AI now that practically everybody could be like the very best sports betting people used to be."

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6. Advertising and Cultural Commentary

Timestamp: Throughout the Episode

The hosts periodically interrupt their discussions to promote Annabe sofas, highlighting their machine-washable features, modular designs, and affordability.

• Jack Armstrong: "Discover Annabe sofas, the only fully machine washable sofas inside and out. Starting at just $699."

a. Backlash Over American Eagle's Sydney Sweeney Ad

A significant portion of the episode critiques a controversial American Eagle advertisement featuring actress Sydney Sweeney. The ad's tagline "Sydney Sweeney has great genes" sparked backlash due to perceived racial undertones reminiscent of Nazi propaganda and the American eugenics movement.

• Michael [32:17]: "The pun 'good genes' activates troubling historical associations... to justify white supremacism."
• Joe Getty [33:07]: "The whole making up controversies thing is dying."

The hosts mock the backlash, suggesting that the controversy is manufactured and lacking genuine substance.

• Michael [32:55]: "Nobody's buying that steaming pile of excrement anymore."
• Joe Getty [34:07]: "It's being discussed on Good Morning America... a horrible ad."

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7. Final Thoughts

Timestamp: [37:15] – [39:00]

As the episode wraps up, Getty and Michael share their final reflections, touching on the futility and fatigue they feel towards modern societal issues.

• Joe Getty [38:06]: "I am fatigued by the modern world... I don't know what that means."
• Michael [38:21]: "Tomorrow's show... Indonesian monkey gangs... grocery stores will soon change their prices hundreds of times per day."

The hosts hint at upcoming topics, maintaining their signature blend of humor and critical commentary.

• Joe Getty [39:00]: "We had emotional jumper battery flavor for the fools Sydney Sweeney blue jeans the Internet let go to me Trump talk starvation false claims on TV gunman and NYC Reno 2... The end of the show as we know it."

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Conclusion

In this episode of "Armstrong & Getty On Demand," Joe Getty and Michael navigate a range of topics with a critical eye and irreverent humor. From questioning the narrative around the Gaza crisis and highlighting potential media biases to discussing sports controversies and mocking cultural debates, the hosts provide listeners with a blend of commentary that is both provocative and entertaining. The interspersed advertisements for Annabe sofas add a commercial aspect to the episode, seamlessly integrated into the flow of conversation.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe Getty [03:05]: "If your argument includes quotes from Hamas, then you don't know what's going on either."
• Michael [06:06]: "Matty Friedman... says... 'Mass starvation is not yet the reality, but it could be in the near future.'"
• Michael [32:17]: "The pun 'good genes' activates troubling historical associations..."
• Joe Getty [38:06]: "I am fatigued by the modern world... I don't know what that means."

This detailed summary encapsulates the essence of the episode, providing insights into the hosts' perspectives and the key discussions that unfolded.

Transcript

[Joe Getty]

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[Michael]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio.

[Jack Armstrong]

Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Michael]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

And now here's Armstrong and Getty. There is no policy of starvation in Gaza and there is no starvation in Gaza.

[Michael]

I mean, some of those kids are. That's real starvation stuff.

[Joe Getty]

I see it. And you can't fake that. So we're going to be even more involved.

[Michael]

It's crazy what's going on over there.

[Joe Getty]

I think Trump at one point said, I only know what I've seen on tv. But you can't fake that there's real starvation going on there. I don't know what that means. I mean, we talked about one example of a well publicized. I saw it 15 times over the weekend. Horrifying picture of a kid that turns out has a terrible other kind of malady that caused him to look the way he looks. I'm not trying to completely deny that people are hungry or whatever. I don't really know what's going on in Gaza. But my, my main point has been today, neither do you. Looking at the Washington Post's breaking news, I woke up to Gaza' Death toll passes 60,000 health officials say what health officials? The Gaza Health Ministry, which is run by Hamas. So I'm supposed to take Hamas's word for it. And whatever Hamas says is going on is true. Whatever Netanyahu says is going on is clearly a lie just to stay in power. How do you come to that conclusion?

[Michael]

Because you're wildly biased. But yeah, that's a, that's a fair assessment of it.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know what's going on, but how can you claim you know what's going on when your cited source is Hamas?

[Michael]

That makes no sense, particularly given Hamas's history and clear incentives for since they can no longer win the battle with guns, they are trying to win it through information and propaganda and persuading the world opinion to turn against Israel strongly enough and soon enough that Israel has to call off the dogs, preserving Hamas's ability to, you know, live, fight and rule Gaza. Well, so yeah, they have every interest in turning world opinion against Israel. Does that mean that everything that's being said about hunger in Gaza is wrong? No, of course not. But they. To treat them as an honest brokerism scene.

[Joe Getty]

Well, right, so you believe Hamas, you don't believe Netanyahu, period. That makes no sense in terms of a step toward Israel having to back off. I think a huge step was taken yesterday with Trump saying, I was watching tv, clearly starvation going on. You can't fake that. I mean, that didn't help Israel any because Israel does not have a lot of friends in the terms of trying to craft world opinion in the world. Um, was I going to say. Oh, so I was watching News Nation this morning. I meant to have Hanson grab this, but their, their analyst, I loved their analysts. It's the only place I've seen this today on any sort of like mainstream national broadcast. Their analyst said, look, for Hamas, Palestinians dying is a feature, not a bug. The more Palestinians die, the better for Hamas. That's their attitude. So they love people starving or being shot or trampled or whatever that's good for them. That's how much they care about the Palestinians.

[Michael]

Yeah, they don't care about the day to day health of the people. Not at all. They care about a continuing their Islamist fight for Islamic supremacy around the world, but primarily in defeating the Jews and sweeping them off the land and taking back that land mass in the name of Islam. It's very, that's their, that is their goal. And if it takes them a thousand years, they'll keep at it for a thousand years. So yes, they'll willingly sacrifice innocence. They've done it for decades. And, and politicians and leaders and experts on both sides of the aisle have said so unequivocally for decades.

[Joe Getty]

Well, yeah, not anymore. But they did remember at the very beginning of this when Joe Biden said what Democrats have been saying for years, he came out and said, because somebody hit him with those statistics, I think it might have been that ridiculous hospital bombing story. But Joe Biden, the first time he talked about this, he said, well, you can't trust the Health Ministry. They're run by Hamas. He got crucified by the Israel hating left. And then he shut up about that. He never said it again, which is unfortunate because it's true. The Health Ministry is an arm of Hamas. To, to even quote them at all is ridiculous, let alone take it completely seriously. He shouldn't even put their numbers in the newspaper.

[Michael]

If you weren't listening yesterday, you might have missed. We were talking about Matty Friedman writing in the the Free Press, a very, very purely truth seeking article about Is Gaza starving Searching for the truth in an information war? And he was talking about how it's extremely difficult to know. And he asks people on the ground what's going on. And they said everybody's spinning like crazy, as in spinning the truth. And it's become practically impossible to figure out what's actually going on on the ground.

[Joe Getty]

Right. So again, I don't know what's going on, but if your argument includes quotes from Hamas, then you don't know what's going on either. I would say to the Washington Post, cnn, msnbc, npr, everybody I watched today, right?

[Michael]

Yeah. And the UN organizations that's being quoted over and over again has said, and I don't have the specific verbiage in front of me, that famine conditions exist. Ah, it's not a famine because you have to prove that through multiple steps and you have to check a bunch of boxes. But famine conditions exist, which is being interpreted as there is a famine in the media, all over the place. Matty Friedman writes an experienced Israeli civilian involved in the aid efforts from an organization that works both with international aid groups and the Israeli military. This is a person who has every interest in people not starving, said on Friday that mass starvation is not yet the reality, but it could be in the near future. There are already pockets of malnutrition and real hunger, he told me. The only way to avoid a deterioration, he said, is for Israel to abandon the mistaken idea that withholding aid weakens Hamas and to urgently flood Gaza with food. It's the right move morally, he said, but also strategically because the humanitarian crisis is devastating what's left of Israel's international support. So I think you can see that is a pretty honest broker who says, no, no, no, don't, don't worry about Hamas stealing food. That's not that big a deal. Flood Gaza with food. You've got to do it right away. Israel needs to stop what they're doing. Their description is that there are pockets of malnutrition and Real hunger. Contrast that with the headlines.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, no kidding. And then, so Trump announced yesterday, we haven't done this headline, the White House announced a $200 million surge in humanitarian food assistance to Gaza. Included in the package, emergency nutritional supplements, logistics, support for NGO distribution, expansion of maritime aid routes via Cyprus. So because Trump saw on TV and believes there's starvation happening. You made the point earlier, and this should be talked about more often. There's a bunch of places in the world right now people are starving, and in recent years, there have been some horrifying examples of people starving at the hands of another entity, whether it's a government or a religious faction or whatever. And none of y' all cared.

[Michael]

Yeah, there are a handful of situations in Sub Saharan Africa, for instance, horrific levels of starvation and brutality and murder and an actual genocide that nobody's writing about. And then most notably, the situation in Yemen. You know, remember the Houthis and. And all that stuff that has been called repeatedly the greatest humanitarian crisis on earth for a few years now. But you don't see the New York Times. Well, the New York Times actually has touched on it, but you don't see the mainstream media really covering it at all because it's brownish people killing brownish people. I think that does not have the. The colonial oppressor hook.

[Joe Getty]

I think that's the key. I really do, because a lot of my favorite pundits would say, and what is the difference? Jews. I don't.

[Michael]

True.

[Joe Getty]

I don't think it's that as much as it is white people bad. If the white. If white people are one side and people are starving on the other side, then it's a cry. It's a problem. If you got brown people on both sides or black people on both sides, I ignore it.

[Michael]

Anti Semitism is part of the stew. But no, you're right. I mean, in. In Africa, it's black people starving black people and. Or brownish people starving black people. In the case of one notable genocide. Then you've got Yemen, where it's brownish people starving and murdering brownish people. Not the least bit interesting. But in the Israeli situation, you've got a Western democracy with arguably whitish people argue, you know, allegedly killing and starving brownish people. That is the hook. And you remember earlier we were talking about this fabulous essay this guy wrote about the. The just dopey stoner logic of so much of what is taught in schools these days, and that it relates to the whole neo Marxist. The person with more power is always wrong and the person with less power is always right. It's that grossly oversimplified. And I know a lot of thinking people are probably listening and saying to themselves it can't be that academia and the media have latched onto something that simplistic and dumb and obviously not true. But they have friends. They have.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And they believe that once you become aware of it, it becomes obvious because you see it all over the place. We do have some breaking news around this now. Over the weekend, President Macron announced that France was going to recognize a Palestinian state. That is the first time any of the big G7 or G8 countries had broken with the United States to recognize Palestine as a state. All the other countries in the world already do. Already do because they hate Israel. Right. The UN is almost entirely anti Israel, but we had stuck together. The United States, France, Britain, Germany, Italy, and then there's like one more had never broken on this. France did. Now England has announced that they're about to. This just happened. Prime Minister Ker Starmer said the UK will recognize a Palestinian state in September unless Israel agrees to a ceasefire in Gaza and moves toward peace.

[Michael]

Ah, so it's a threat.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, well, I don't know if Israel is going to be able to fulfill their needs. No.

[Michael]

But I don't think France is going to be able to fulfill the threat, nor Britain. How do you recognize a state that doesn't exist? It has no coherent governor government, it has no agreed upon borders.

[Joe Getty]

What does that even mean? Well, I definitely think it hurts that there's a break in the alliance of the countries that have been holding on to no Palestinian state for all these years. But Trump, he said over the weekend and he's asked about this, he said who cares? What difference does it make if France recognizes Palestinian state? It doesn't make any difference. Doesn't have, doesn't have any actual effect.

[Michael]

So oddly enough, I have a couple of more Emmanuel Macron related stories.

[Joe Getty]

Okay to squeeze in his wife looks like a dude. Is that one of the stories?

[Michael]

Careful, you might get sued. That's right.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's right. I heard this story. Yeah, we got to do that when we come back. This is scary. I might be in trouble.

[Michael]

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[Michael]

An inmate at a New Orleans jail was mistakenly released on Friday after authorities confused him with another prisoner with a similar name. Name. So congratulations to Maxwell's Ghislaine. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Louisiana needs to take a look at their whole jail system. They got some problems there.

[Michael]

Jimmy. Where's Jimmy? Jimmy, you're released. All right.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Michael]

Nice system.

[Joe Getty]

There is a, there's a guy on let's Make a Deal Katie dressed as a pancake. Oh, pancake. Yes.

[Michael]

That's charming.

[Joe Getty]

I expect that out of one of you. From now on, his wife appears to be a stick of bacon. Isn't that a nice couple?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's darling.

[Michael]

People don't normally dress as breakfast foods, so that is charming. You know, it occurs to me, a great follow up to our previous discussion about the idiotic victim oppressor, you know, philosophy. And I was going to do something a little lighter hearted, but I can't resist. Michael, just play a 72. From Special Report, police sources in Cincinnati.

[Joe Getty]

Tell Fox News they have identified at least five suspects in a violent brawl that took place downtown Friday night. Footage showing people attacking a man who is shoved to the ground and kicked several times. A woman also seen lying unconscious in the street after apparently being punched.

[Michael]

A White House spokesman saying today several people have quotes about it being barbaric, hard to watch, sickening violence. There must be repercussions. All right, It's a bunch of black people, people beating a white guy into serious medical trauma. Okay? If the roles were reversed, the media would talk about it for the next five years. It would be, you would know that man's name. He would be a household name like.

[Joe Getty]

George Floyd, regardless of the circumstance of why anybody was beating anybody. Oh, yeah, I'm not trying to make.

[Michael]

Any greater point about black people or white people or anything. But if the roles were reversed and everything else was precisely the same, this would be a gigantic story that you would hear about forever. Why the difference? Because of that whole idiotic victim oppressor philosophy being internalized by the woke jackasses of America.

[Joe Getty]

Now, you did say before the break I might get sued by President Macron of France. I mean.

[Michael]

That's right.

[Joe Getty]

I'm intrigued.

[Michael]

And you would deserve it. McCrone and the lovely Mrs. McCrone. Mrs. Are have what? Have filed a defamation suit in Delaware against social media provocatus using the female form. That's interesting. And general crazy pants Candace Owens. According to the complaint, Owens has claimed, among other things, that Madame Macron is a man dude. That the two Macrones are actually blood relatives committing incest.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that Seems I've never made that claim.

[Michael]

And that Monsieur Macron was elected president as part of a CIA mind control experiment.

[Joe Getty]

And so Macron suing Candace Owens.

[Michael]

Yes. Both of the Macrons were brothers. That was a joke. It's parody. And then this very good article gets into the difficulty of proving actual malice in a slander case. But you know who's. Who's in the my. Who's in the mood for legalities? You got people running around dressed as pancakes and bacon.

[Joe Getty]

I know so little about the law, I didn't know the French president could sue me for in any way whatsoever, no matter what.

[Michael]

Sure.

[Joe Getty]

In what court? A French Quarter U. S. Court.

[Michael]

I just told you. In Delaware.

[Joe Getty]

How does President Macron have the ability to sue me in Delaware?

[Michael]

Anybody can sue anybody anywhere practically. I had win.

[Joe Getty]

But I just don't understand because I.

[Michael]

Heard his feelings are insulted his wife or. It's. It's. It's. It's slanders. Slanderous. Designed to hurt their reputation and cause them emotional pain and. And sturm and drong and whatever else. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Don't marry your high school teacher.

[Michael]

Oh boy. Well, see, Candace Owens claims. It's not even that. It's that they're both dudes and their blood relatives.

[Joe Getty]

Why does Candace Owens claim that? Or for what reason?

[Michael]

Because she is, as the free press points out, a general crazy pants.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, we got more on the way.

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[Joe Getty]

NFL great Deion Sanders emotional as he reveals his battle with cancer, saying he was diagnosed with an aggressive form of bladder cancer just three months ago. Remarkably, his medical team at UC Health University of Colorado Hospital now consider him cured.

[Jack Armstrong]

I am pleased to report that the results from the surgery are that he is cured from the cancer.

[Joe Getty]

Deion Sanders saying following the successful surgery to remove the cancer and his bladder in early May, he is now on the mend and he is grateful.

[Michael]

God is so good. You have no idea.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. He had his bladder removed. How are they making that work? I suppose I don't need the details on that, but this is not a.

[Michael]

Story about the media. But the whole aggressive form of cancer thing which you have addressed, it sounds like impressive and like that's extra dangerous, but that's not necessarily the case. Sometimes the more aggressive forms are easier to treat.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Because they, they, they take the bait, as my cancer doctor said, with the poison that is chemotherapy, because they're aggressive. So they're going after it and they eat it and dies. But anyway, that aside, can we, can we.

[Michael]

Oh, go ahead, go ahead.

[Joe Getty]

Did you have a follow up, cancer wise or sports wise? No, no.

[Michael]

I was going to switch to baseball via a clip, but go ahead.

[Joe Getty]

My cancer thing is going to be. Which is tied in with baseball. A famous baseball player died yesterday of, or it was announced that he died yesterday of prostate cancer. And I just wanted to point out the whole, I mean, I've been a cheerleader since I had cancer of the don't overreact to cancer diagnosis whenever you get one because you don't have any idea how things are going to be. It might be horrible, it might be great. But there is the fact that like prostate cancer is the most curable of all the cancers. It's like 95% of people get cured. But that means 5% don't. Right. One out of 50 don't. And he was one of them, I guess, and killed him. Wow.

[Michael]

The great Ryan Sandberg, one of my baseball Heroes as a young man. Loved him. Second baseman, hall of Famer for the Chicago Cubs. And a lovely guy too. Yeah, too bad. Well, I remember when you had your cancer that, you know, the, the first round of treatment like nips it for 80% of people roughly, or whatever the numbers were. You remember better than me and you're in the 20%.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Michael]

And the next thing they went with kind of a similar result.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that happened a couple of times. And then I always thought of. Because originally it was like I had a 70% chance of living in a 30% chance of dying. You know those, those odds are good, but like if you looked at it like playing Russian roulette and you're putting a gun to your head, you wouldn't exactly not be flinching when you pulled the trigger. Even if he had a 70% chance of the bullet not going off.

[Michael]

Sure. Yeah, yeah. Those were the days when Michael started walking around referring to himself as the co host and I had to, you know, tell him, hey, hey, he's not dead yet. Yeah, those are some dark days.

[Joe Getty]

Wait till the body cools.

[Michael]

Yes, exactly. Anyway, speaking of sports, which we barely are really, I want to hear 19, Michael.

[Jack Armstrong]

Five men have joined baseball's all time greats in Cooperstown. Dick Allen, Dave Parker, Cece Sabathia, Ichiro Suzuki and Billy Wagner were all officially.

[Michael]

Inducted into the hall of Fame.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sabathia and Suzuki were first ballot picks. Wagner took 10 tries to get in. Allen and Parker both honored posthumously.

[Michael]

Well, coincidentally they're all great ballplayers.

[Joe Getty]

Huh.

[Michael]

Interesting. Anyway, there is a sports, this is.

[Joe Getty]

Kind of inside sports, but so we played a clip there from Deion Sanders, who's a legendary NFL player and now coach and, and his son got a lot of attention playing for him there wherever he was playing in Colorado or whatever.

[Michael]

Colorado State, I think.

[Joe Getty]

And so his son, son went into the NFL draft, but so they retired Deion Sanders kid's number there at the college. And Sean Gillis, the comedian at the ESPYs had a pretty brutal joke about that. Congratulations to. I don't remember Sanders name. Do you remember his first name? Okay, Shador Sanders having his number retired there at Colorado State as a quarterback. But you know, you deserve it. You went 11 and 8 and almost won the Alamo bowl. So pretty impressive. I thought, ouch.

[Michael]

And then he plunged in the draft for being like an all about me guy.

[Joe Getty]

All of almost won the Alamo bowl is a rough line.

[Michael]

Yeah, yeah. Anyway, speaking of sports, baseball specifically, do you remember a couple, two, three weeks ago, I Brought you the term spot fixing. It's been absolutely a huge problem globally in sports where, you know, in the world of sports betting, it's not just who's going to win or who's going to lose or cover the spread. You can bet on very specific minor occurrences in the game. Will the first pitch of the third inning be a strike or a ball, and people do gamble on that stuff. And when you fix the outcome of that very little insignificant act or, or occurrence in the game, that's called spot fixing.

[Joe Getty]

So can you. I've never looked into this, but I suppose it's like. So it's not. How many rebounds is Luka Doncic going to get? It might be how many rebounds in.

[Michael]

The first quarter or like, or who will get.

[Joe Getty]

Who will get the first rebound?

[Michael]

No, it's tougher in basketball. No, it would. No, it would be. Will Luka Doncic's first shot be a bucket or a miss?

[Joe Getty]

Will he miss his first free throw? Would be a good one.

[Michael]

Yes, exactly. And so we brought you the story of pitcher Louis Ortiz. I think it was who. There was unusual wagering activity on two of his pitches this season, being a ball, because they have algorithms that can track, I mean, if you have, you have a fairly, you know, regular number, predictable number of bets on silly stuff like this, I mean, it doesn't vary that much. Then all of a sudden, Louis Ortiz's first pitch in the third inning has an enormous amount of betting on it. That's what they look for. And both times he threw the ball far outside the strike zone, like making extra sure it wasn't a strike. Well, his team, his teammate, the Cleveland Guardians, star closer Emmanuel Clays is now on non disciplinary paid leave as part of an ongoing investigation into him. Spot fixing.

[Joe Getty]

Could be tough to stop.

[Michael]

The only way to do that is through the algorithms. But they're investigating. But how do you investigate it exactly? Hey dude, there are a bunch of bets on this being a ball and you threw the ball into the stands. Yeah, yeah, I lost the grip. It happens now and again.

[Joe Getty]

Sucks for up and up sports betting. There is the problem with AI now that practically everybody could be like the very best sports betting people used to be. You just ask AI because it scours all the stats.

[Michael]

What they're trying to do, and this only works in legal betting, is eliminate these so called micro bets. As Rob Manfred, the MLB commissioner said, there are certain types of bets that strike me as unnecessary and particularly vulnerable. And so they're trying to eliminate that in the lawful betting sites. But you know, illegal bookies are still a huge percentage of betting.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah.

[Michael]

But I don't know. I don't know if. And honestly, I don't know because I haven't done much sports gambling and. And I've only used a bookie like twice in my life. And that was for who's going to win, who's going to lose. Can you do that sort of prop bet with a bookie these days? I don't even know. Anyway, micro fixing, they're calling it.

[Joe Getty]

Have you ever known anybody.

[Michael]

I'm sorry, spot fixing. And the second Major League baseball player has now been suspended under suspicion of it.

[Joe Getty]

You ever know anybody who's super into sports betting? Oh, yeah, like Norm MacDonald level into sports betting. It's like really, like really into it.

[Michael]

Addicted, ruining their lives or just like, you know, I've known a handful of people who are very enthusiastic about it.

[Joe Getty]

Do they mostly win or. Because there is some skill involved in sports betting or at least there used to be. Pre. AI. I don't know about now. Yeah, I don't know.

[Michael]

I've never really.

[Joe Getty]

If you did enough homework, you had some knowledge of what's most likely to happen that might not fit with the. The line as it comes out.

[Michael]

Well, right. Yeah. Because the line is all about what the world thinks. And if you are more knowledgeable and savvy or informed than the world. Yeah. You ought to be able to, you know, theoretically win more than you lose. All the house cares about is equal bets on each side of the equation. That's all they care about. Then they take the vig from everybody and they win.

[Joe Getty]

Man, I was at a big casino the other night. I hadn't met in one a long time, and, man, people sitting there shoveling money into those machines on a beautiful evening, I just. I don't get it. I mean, if that's. If you enjoy it.

[Michael]

So if the weather's foul, it's okay or what?

[Joe Getty]

I. I enjoy things you probably think would be stupid, but just. I'd look at that. I think, what the hell are you doing?

[Michael]

Yeah, I. I did that. I was in Vegas. I don't do it much. I've just done it really once, maybe twice for like a couple hours. But anyway, I was there with a bunch of college buddies and we were eating and drinking and carrying on, and I think it was the NCAA tournament and we were there at the sports book and it was. It was great fun.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that's different than shovel shoveling money into a machine that set the dole out a certain amount and the casino.

[Michael]

Was built that you're gonna lose machines and stuff.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Oh, I hadn't realized we'd moved on.

[Joe Getty]

All the other different kinds of machines. It was just watching all the people. I mean, it was packed full of people on a gorgeous summer evening. Inside, in the dark, in smoke. Because they can smoke there. Shoveling money into these machines, that just seems insane to me. You can do whatever you want as long as you don't end up with any of my taxpayer dollars. If you decide you spent more money than you should have. But there's no way to guarantee that.

[Michael]

Is there such a thing as spot fixing, like betting on a talk show? Will Joe Getty's first attempt at humor.

[Joe Getty]

Land or not be subjective?

[Michael]

Because I would throw that in a minute for the right, you know, dollar figures. If there's any mobsters out there listening.

[Joe Getty]

We will finish strong.

[Michael]

Next, Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Michael]

Yeah, the ads are for American Eagle and the tagline is Sydney Sweeney has great genes. Now in one ad, the blond hair blue eyed actress talks about genes as in DNA being passed down from her parents.

[Jack Armstrong]

The play on words is being compared to Nazi propaganda with racial undertones.

[Michael]

The pun good genes activates a troubling historical associations for this country. The American eugenics movement in its prime between like 1900 and 1940 weaponized the idea of good genes just to to justify white supremacism.

[Joe Getty]

No, despite that backlash, American Eagle stock has been soaring.

[Michael]

That was nobody's buying your crap anymore.

[Joe Getty]

That was some old lady professor about eugenics or something or other.

[Michael]

Sorry, old lady. Nobody's buying that steaming pile of excrement anymore. You scared people into saying, oh, okay, sure, yeah, they're For a few years. Because people are afraid of losing their jobs. No, you're full of crap. You're a crackpot. Shut up. She's a gorgeous woman with an amazing body. Do you think maybe that's what they're referring to? Yeah, crack pot.

[Joe Getty]

I hope you're right.

[Michael]

I guarantee I'm right.

[Joe Getty]

That the whole making up controversies thing is dying.

[Michael]

Well, in the whole at least around fake white supremacy critical theory thing, please.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. At least around political correctness. Have you seen the ad there, Katie? I have, yeah.

[Michael]

And this is so dumb.

[Joe Getty]

It is so dumb. And so that old lady professor there and their serious tones about. It's a. The worst example of our history of eugenics and white supremacy in this country.

[Michael]

And eugenics was part of the progressive movement of the day.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Michael Hanson said he's been studying the.

[Michael]

Ad most of the morning. If you remember, Sydney Sweeney is the.

[Joe Getty]

One who was selling the bar of soap with a little bit of her bath water in it, right?

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, so she, she has an eye for getting attention or her people do, because that's two things in a row. Soap with a little of my bath water that get. You know, every late night comedian made a joke and then this thing is a controversy. Okay, I see how she's working.

[Michael]

Hanson says she has lingerie coming out as well.

[Joe Getty]

All right. Probably reminds people of slavery or something. I don't know.

[Michael]

I'm gonna make a joke then, then contradict it, but I wonder if her PR firm has like a bullpen full of serious looking academics and they say, look, we need, we need you to say that the joke about jeans is like reminiscent of the Nazis or something like that. Because we need to stir up some controversy. And the old lady says, okay, all right, if you want me to, I'll say that. And she's under the employee of the.

[Joe Getty]

PR firm, her new line of lingerie, which reminds many of the slave trade of the 18th century.

[Michael]

What? That's right. The underwear imported much as the slaves were.

[Joe Getty]

Right?

[Michael]

Yeah. All right.

[Joe Getty]

Something to sleep in. Like slaves once had to sleep in their beds after a long day picking cotton, which not coincidentally, I would think is what this lingerie is made of.

[Michael]

Cotton.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. You think that's a coincidence?

[Michael]

It's a dog whistle.

[Joe Getty]

That's not much dumber than this. Which is actually being discussed on Good morning America. It's not much dumb. I know my dumb example is not much dumber than white supremacy and eugenics. Oh, my God.

[Michael]

Outside of academia and the media, though, I'm telling you, everybody is rolling their eyes at this.

[Joe Getty]

I hope you're right.

[Michael]

Who has any sense? I mean, you're be pierced, hair, dyed, gender bending online young militant woman community is. Is aghast. But they woke up aghast.

[Joe Getty]

So I feel like we're going through some sort of churn that is gonna lead us to some new point on all of this sort of thing. And I'll just. I'll just be interested to see where we land because I think everybody's tired of what we have been doing for a while.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And so I don't know where we're going to land.

[Michael]

Nor I. Neither does anybody else. But getting back to that fabulous essay I read part of earlier, this guy is talking about despite the veil of critical thinking in colleges, for instance, it's really just a subtle attempt to indoctrinate students with a simplistic but intuitively satisfying progressive worldview. Indeed, it applied this kind of analysis to all sorts of sociological and sites with psychological topics. Far from superseding my old stoner intuition, the university wasn't reinforcing it. I was learning to argue by analogy rather than appealing to evidence.

[Joe Getty]

It's final thoughts.

[Michael]

I'm strong again.

[Joe Getty]

It's final thoughts.

[Michael]

It's final thoughts. I'm strong again. Get ready with Katie Green and Michael Angelo.

[Joe Getty]

It's final thoughts. Yeah. Here's your hope, Host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Michael]

Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the show for the day. How about that? Michelangelo? Our technical director will lead us off. Michael. Maybe I should sell some of my bath water. It'd be maybe, you know, at the dollar store for 99 cents or something.

[Joe Getty]

You. And what am I gonna do with it? Like put it on the shelf to look at or pour it in my bag?

[Michael]

Tell your friends about it.

[Joe Getty]

Tell your friends about it.

[Michael]

Katie Green, our esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie. Katie. You can go to Katie's corner and.

[Joe Getty]

See the smoking hot Sydney Sweeney Nazi commercial. I just put it up.

[Michael]

All right, Fantastic. Jack, a final thought for us.

[Joe Getty]

I am fatigued by the modern world. I have just may have reached my limit of being able to be amused by or interested in modern society. I think I've hit the wall. I don't know what that means.

[Michael]

Oh, I get it. Yeah you'll bounce back tomorrow though so speaking of tomorrow tomorrow's show a couple of stories I didn't get to that I really wanted to get to Indonesian monkey gangs are you at risk plus grocery stores will soon change their prices hundreds of times per day.

[Joe Getty]

Her new eyeliner reminiscent of the Holocaust Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour.

[Michael]

Workday so many people who thanks a little time go to Armstrong and Getty dodge got a lot of great clicks there for you we'll see you tomorrow.

[Joe Getty]

God bless America Armstrong and get it.

[Michael]

We had emotional jumper battery flavor for the fools Sydney Sweeney blue jeans the Internet let go to me Trump talk starvation false claims on TV gunman and NYC Reno 2 did you see it's the end of the show as we know it. This is terrible the end of the show as we know it Jack and Joe will be back tomorrow Armstrong and Getty this is an I heart podcast.