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Joe Getty
This is an iHeart podcast. And here we have a specimen from the early 2000s. A legacy investing platform. Please don't touch the exhibit, folks. It could crash.
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Jack Armstrong
Ready to step out of the financial history museum@public.com you can invest in almost everything. Stocks, bonds, options and more. You can even put your cash to work at an industry leading 4.1% APY. Leave your clunky, outdated platform behind. Go to public.com and fund your account in five minutes or less. Paid for by Public Investing, Inc. Member FINRA and SID Full disclosures at.
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Joe Getty
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on Demand?
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Jack Armstrong
We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and.
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Joe Getty
Tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that.
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Jack Armstrong
Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty.
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Joe Getty
We're Armstrong and Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
We try to bring you the truth.
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Joe Getty
And help you figure out this crazy modern world. How about something about a comedic tone? We have a winner. Yes.
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Jack Armstrong
Listen to Armstrong and Getty on Demand on the I Heart Rate, Apple Podcasts.
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Joe Getty
Or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Leon Nayfak
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran Contra affair.
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Joe Getty
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
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Jack Armstrong
Please do.
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Leon Nayfak
To hear the whole story, listen to Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Joe Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty.
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Joe Getty
And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. In a stunning development, Canada has declared war on the United States.
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Jack Armstrong
Let's go to Joe Brad, who is.
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Joe Getty
Live at the border.
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Jack Armstrong
I'm currently at the border, but there is no war.
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Joe Getty
Mom, Dad, I know this looks kind of real, but it's all AI.
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Jack Armstrong
Grandpa, I'm fine.
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Joe Getty
This is just AI.
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Jack Armstrong
You don't need to wire money to anyone. I am not in love with you and I do not need your money for a plane ticket. I am AI. This fake moon landing footage isn't classified. It's AI, there could be aliens, but I'm not one of them. I'm AI. Uncle Fred, the government has not been taken over by lizard people.
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Joe Getty
You don't need to send us $5,000 in gift cards because you missed jury duty.
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Jack Armstrong
Grandma, it's not real.
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Joe Getty
It's AI.
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Jack Armstrong
It's AI AI.
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It's kind of funny. If only. But that's not the case. As we all know, in all those instances.
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Joe Getty
Boy, gotta run that on. On every TV service that exists so people see it well.
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Jack Armstrong
So I' to talk about this new AI book in just a second. And one of his big points is governments need to start regulating AI like yesterday. And coming up with some guardrails before it. Before it gets unleashed on the world in all kinds of different ways. Luckily, the state of California is already on it. Katie?
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Joe Getty
Yes, California lawmakers moving forward with a bill to regulate companionship. Chat box. It requires reminders every three hours that the chat bots are not real.
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Jack Armstrong
So first, there's, there's several things I like about this. So you're. You have a relationship with the chat bot that's obviously already, like, weird at a level of dystopian that we only could imagine just a few years ago and already happening. And it's already happening. And I know people who know people. I don't know anybody who's actually doing the relationship thing, but I know people who say they have friends who are like. Like in some cases, like lonely old farmers, which I find really disturbing. Like the last sort of people you would expect that would, you know, get emotionally attached to a chatbot. But anyway, it's so prevalent that the state of California felt like they needed to put in guardrails and step in and have a warning every two hours. No, two and a half hours, no, four hours. That's not long enough, Jack. Okay, three hours will compromise. Every three hours that'll warn you that you're talking to a computer, you weird.
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Joe Getty
So there I am, trading intimacies. Oh, that reminds me. Coming up later this hour, how to fall in love. Science has figured it out.
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Jack Armstrong
Wow.
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Joe Getty
So there I am, trading intimacies with my sexy, sexy computer and. Or I suppose a sex bot in the future. And the state of California is going to say, we hate to interrupt your sexy chat with your computer, but like to remind you it's a computer and not a real human being. This message brought to you by Gavin Newsom and the state of California. See you in three hours.
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Jack Armstrong
And the super majority Democratic Party. I would love to have been involved in that conversation for a number of reasons, including I'm as much as I'm an expert as anybody who made that decision, because nobody has any idea where any of this is going. So my opinion would have been as valid as anybody who, you know, wrote that and, and voted for it.
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Joe Getty
But.
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Jack Armstrong
First of all, you could start with, do we need the government jumping in and telling us, I know you feel really good right now and you're really enjoying yourself and you're being, you're getting enjoyment at a deep, deep human level, but we want to tell you it's fake because we're the state and that's our job. I don't know what I think about that.
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Joe Getty
I mean, I think that's a great question. That's the 30,000 foot question. I mean, as we've seen a steep decline in social belonging just in general. Friendships, civic organizations, church attendance, all of the guardrails of our behavior, or a lot of them, have gone away. I mean, there's. And so the state of California said, well, let's see, you're an atheist with no friends. We'll tell you what's crazy and what's not. I, I don't want the government doing that.
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Jack Armstrong
Well, why wouldn't the. So the government doesn't announce, you know, every three hours at a strip club, the music stops, the girls stop dancing. An announcement from the state comes up. These girls do not actually like you. They are going to pretend to love you, but they are getting paid to do that. Now back to the hot chicks dancing.
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Joe Getty
I mean, right?
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Jack Armstrong
The state doesn't step in to let you know this is phony emotion.
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Joe Getty
Right? Before we begin the fourth quarter of the 49ers game, we'd like to remind you that these young gentlemen are actually rented millionaires and couldn't give a crap about the Bay area beyond finding a nice place to live. They'll be gone the moment their contract is ended. Now back to the game.
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Jack Armstrong
Or at the end of a lottery commercial, that the state benefits from, uh, very few people. We'd like to remind you very few people actually win. And studies show that people who do win end up less happy than before. I mean, when is. It's the state's role to jump in on this. So there's that. Then the other part. If you're going to accept that they should. How did they come up with three hours? I would have loved to have heard that back and forth.
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Joe Getty
I mean, that's hilarious. I mean, you don't want to interrupt people's intimacies with their computers too often because that'll be obnoxious, but if you.
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Jack Armstrong
Wait five hours, they'll be so hooked there's no turning them around or something.
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Joe Getty
I'm in the sweet spot here. What do you think? Jim 3. You know, there's part of me that thinks I don't, I don't really think this, but I've had the thought pop into my head that the state of California is Trumpian in that it proposes all this ridiculous crap to distract from the fact that, you know, the bullet train and the tension, I'm sorry, the pension time bomb and, you know, a dozen of the soon to be incredibly even more expensive gas prices than the rest of it.
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Jack Armstrong
I don't know so I am reading another AI book. I'm fascinated by the whole thing. I think everybody should be. I think it's going to be a giant deal. But I do need to read my next book. I swore last night has got to be one that is the other side. And there, there are a lot of people on the other side that say it's not going to be that devastating to mankind or society. So I need to read one of those books next because I've been leaning toward the people who think it's going to be a big deal. But anyway, here's the review of this book from Bill Gates Guy ran Microsoft used to be the richest man in the world for a very, very long time and spent a ton of is currently spending a ton of money on his own AI. You know, creation that can compete against Chat, GPT and GROK and all the others. Here's his review of the book in which he mentions the book when people ask me about artificial intelligence, their questions often boil down to this what should I be worried about? And how worried should I be for the past year? This book came out a year and a half ago, which unfortunately is a little dated by AI standards. But it this review is from December, so the review is only 7 months old. For the past year I've responded by telling them to read the Coming Wave by Mustafa Suleiman. It's the book I recommend more than any other AI on AI to heads of state, business leaders or anyone else who asks because it offers something rare, a clear eyed view of both the extraordinary opportunities and genuine risks ahead. And I'm two chapters in and it's already fantastic. What sets us what sets this book apart from the others is Mustafa's insight that AI is only one part of an unprecedented convergence of scientific breakthroughs happening at the same time. Gene Editing DNA synthesis and other advances in biotechnology are racing forward in parallel with AI as the title suggests these changes are building like a wave far out at sea. Invisible to many but gathering force. Each one of these individual things could be game changing for mankind on its own.
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Joe Getty
Obviously supposed to be reassuring me.
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Jack Armstrong
No, this is a scary book. Okay. Any of those obviously gene editing, DNA synthesis, whatever that is advances in biotechnology where you start screwing with food and catt and all kinds of different sorts of things. Any of these could be life altering for Earth. Each of them game changing together with AI they're poised to reshape every aspect of society. And yeah, this is the first book where he's combined A AI is the isn't the only thing out there. It's all these other things and it's going to combine with AI to where countries or non state actors can alter crops maybe in ways that are great. They don't need much water but provide as much wheat, you know, twice as much wheat on half the water or whatever. It could be fantastic.
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Joe Getty
But you go Somalia will soon be dealing with an obesity problem but you.
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Jack Armstrong
Also could develop some sort of germ that will kill off wheat. And you you know, let at least loosen Kansas and Nebraska if you're the Chinese or whatever.
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Joe Getty
Yeah if anybody needs me I'll be in the fetal position.
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Jack Armstrong
Or God, you get into gene editing and all that sort of stuff just it boggles the mind. I can't wait to get further along in this book. And he. So he started I forget which company it was but it's the one that got bought by Microsoft and Bill Gates and he works, he had been working for him but he, he talks many times and Bill Gates actually says near his review similar look, I'm an optimist. I've always been an optimist about technology. I've always believed that it's positive outweighs negatives, blah blah blah but not in this case is basically what he says. And he said I hope I'm wrong. I would not. I'd love nothing more than two people look back on this book years from now and I was completely wrong. But I don't think so.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, I feel like we're giving chimpanzees handguns. I just. I think it is a tool that we cannot handle.
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Jack Armstrong
I think it's probably significantly worse than that Machines, I mean whatever you like there is So I did adopt this. I heard Charlie Cooker from National Review say this the other day why he embraces technology as opposed to rejects it. I'm a guy who's always rejected technology, I may have changed my mind based on what he just said, on what he said the other day. He said if it's going to happen anyway, you might as well embrace it. There's no point in sitting around and complaining. You wish the Internet hadn't involved happened and talk about all the ways that life would be better if it didn't. It did and everybody's got it. And the same thing is with AI it's coming. Non state actors are going to have it, China's going to have. Everybody's going to have it. So the I wish this wouldn't happen or it'd be better if it didn't, or sticking your head in the sand and pretending it's not doesn't do any good. There's no benefit in that whatsoever.
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Joe Getty
So, yeah, I think those are two different cases. I absolutely see his point. I think a lot of the times when I am complaining about the effects of the Internet, it's not some sort of denial that it's real or it is. It's a affirmative statement of values that I think are more important or activities that are more important and healthy than being on the Internet. So I mean, I, I don't, I do bemoan the fact that it exists, but it's, it's, that's a tangent to the fact that, look, it is an. It's entertainment information, but don't, don't spend too much of your life on it or it will ruin you.
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Jack Armstrong
Do you think life. Define life however you want, society, the country, whatever is better because of the Internet or worse.
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Joe Getty
Incomplete grade.
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Jack Armstrong
God. I think worse. I mean, I know, I think I'm a minority on that, but.
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Joe Getty
No, no, I, it's obviously a complicated picture, but the question you have to answer before you answer that question is by what standard are we gonna decide this? What is our measure?
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, I think the only measure, it's like the measure you should have for the government and policy. What's the Thomas Jefferson phrase? You know, pursuit of happiness. Yeah, I think it's lessened our pursuit of happiness.
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Joe Getty
I think it's less people less happy with their lives. And. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that is absolutely undeniable. Yeah. People are less happy. I think it's the fruit of the tree of knowledge.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
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Joe Getty
Whenever Genesis, whenever.
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Jack Armstrong
I actually have actually haven't debated anybody on this, but when I hear people debating on this, they always get the productivity and you know how much better email is in snail mail. Okay, fine, great. Are people happier or less happy? Since the Internet occurred, less happy. So what difference does it make, right?
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Joe Getty
You've got to decide what the bottom line is. The interesting slash troubling part of this, and then we need to wrap it up, is that the bottom line for the people in charge of this is the bottom line, right? They couldn't give a single crap about human happiness or children's anxiety or suicide or the rest of it. Some of them can on an individual basis, but it's about making money.
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Jack Armstrong
Quick reminder that chat bot you're having a romantic talk with is not real.
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Joe Getty
Thanks Uncle Gavin.
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
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Jack Armstrong
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
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Joe Getty
To President Trump vowing retaliation after a one hour phone call. The leaders President Trump posting Putin did say and very strongly that he will have to respond to the recent attack and acknowledging it was not a conversation that will lead to Immediate peace.
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Jack Armstrong
And then what did you say to him? Donald Trump, since the ball is in your court on this entire war, did you say, we're putting together a package of sanctions that will devastate you, So I think maybe it'd be better if you didn't. Or anything that leads even within a million miles of a threat or pushback on the side of Ukraine, it will.
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Joe Getty
Not lead to immediate peace. Yeah, he's going with no interest in peace whatsoever.
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Jack Armstrong
It's, it's the, these guys, neither one of them actually want peace. They hate each other. So what are you going to do? Well, you're going to be on one side or the other is one option. I know for a lot of you think stay out of it is the option. I don't think so.
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Joe Getty
So the Wall Street Journal editorial board wants to know, if President Trump won, will he finally take no for an answer? Senior Kremlin official Dmitry Medvedev, also a frequent mouthpiece for Putin, talking about the so called peace talks, quote, the negotiations in Istanbul are not aimed at compromise, peace based on someone else's delusional terms. The goal is our swift victory and complete destruction of the neo Nazi regime.
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Jack Armstrong
Right. That's one of the written pieces for the so called ceasefire that have to be met. The elimination of the Nazis. Okay, fine, all the Nazis are gone, because what the hell does that mean? But you have to make Russia the official language in Ukraine is one of their demands. For instance, they pretend they didn't take any children. So Ukraine wanting kids back. We didn't take any kids. What are you talking about? So that's not part of the deal.
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Joe Getty
Right, Right. It's clear that Vlad Putin, it's pretty clear to me anyway. And the, the, the mullahs in Iran have decided Trump is so proud of his ability to make deals that we're just gonna keep telling him there's a deal out there but never come to one. That's what it seems like to me. I mean, because the talks with Iran are going nowhere. There have been a couple of announcements from the White House that we're getting close. We're getting close. They're still saying uranium enrichment is the key to our nuclear program. The, the Ayatollah himself said that in a televised speech. The rude and arrogant leaders of America repeatedly demanded we should not have a nuclear program. Who are you to decide whether Iran should have enrichment? Well, the answer is that everybody knows enrichment's a path to a nuclear bomb. You don't need it for, for convention, for a, you know, energy programs. But they keep sending Steve Witkoff to to negotiate. I just. I don't think there are deals to be made here.
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Jack Armstrong
We may have taken a step toward the greatest whizzing contest in world history.
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Joe Getty
Oh my. Plus, science tells you how to fall in love.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, that's nice.
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Joe Getty
Love and whizzing coming up.
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Jack Armstrong
You. Ah.
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Joe Getty
What are you. Pete, you brought it. Don't you? Ooh. To me, you brought it up. Armstrong and Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
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Leon Nayfak
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.
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Joe Getty
Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?
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Jack Armstrong
No.
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Leon Nayfak
It became known as the Iran Contra.
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Jack Armstrong
Affair and I'm not taking any more questions. In just a second, I'm going to.
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Leon Nayfak
Ask Attorney General, I'm Leon Nayfak, co creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.
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Joe Getty
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
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Jack Armstrong
Please do.
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Leon Nayfak
To hear the whole story. Listen to Fiasco Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Joe Getty
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand?
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Jack Armstrong
We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and.
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Joe Getty
Tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that.
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Jack Armstrong
Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty.
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Joe Getty
We're Armstrong and Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
We try to bring you the truth.
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Joe Getty
And help you figure out this crazy modern world. How about something about a comedic tone? We have a winner. Yes.
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Jack Armstrong
Listen to Armstrong, you geti on Demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or.
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Joe Getty
Wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jack Armstrong
Elon and I left on a great note. We were texting one another, you know, happy texts, you know, Monday and then. And then Yesterday, you know, 24 hours later, he does a 180 and he.
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Joe Getty
Comes out and opposed the bill.
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Jack Armstrong
And I. It surprised me, frankly. I think he's. He's flat wrong. I think he's. He's way off on this.
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And I've told him as much, and.
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Joe Getty
I've said it publicly and privately.
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Jack Armstrong
I'm very consistent in that. But am I concerned about effectiveness on the midterms?
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Joe Getty
I'm not.
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Jack Armstrong
Let me tell you why.
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Because when the big, beautiful bill is.
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Done and signed into law, every single American is going to do better. Yeah, we'll see. That's Speaker Johnson saying, hey, I'm friends with Elon, but I think he's wrong. So it started quite tepid, the Elon backing away. And I thought it was way overblown, Disagreeing, very gentleman. I thought it was way overblown. Last week. I, I think I was wrong or, or, or I was right. But the people who guessed where it was growing were right. Were right. Anywho. So Elon, the last two days, he's amped it up each day. He went from 48 hours ago from the. What the, the hellacious abomination or whatever he called it. Disgusting abomination. Then to yesterday. Kill the bill. Kill the bill. All day long, urging Republican senators to vote against the bill. Now Donald Trump, sitting with the leader of Germany in the Oval Office, ask about the relationship, said this. I've always liked Elon, and, yeah, I can understand why he's upset. Remember, he was here for a long time. You saw a man who was very happy when he stood behind the Oval desk. And even with the black eye, I said, do you want a little makeup?
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Joe Getty
We'll get you a little Makeup.
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Jack Armstrong
But he said, said, no, I don't think so. Which is interesting and very nice. He wants to be who he is, so you could make that statement too. I guess he said, that's enough. So he said, elon, I, Elon and I had a great relationship. I don't know if we will anymore. Which is. I've been following Trump. We've been following Trump for a long time. That's the first part of the turn before you go full on scorched earth. I don't know if we will anymore. He hasn't said anything bad about me personally, which we all know that is the line you cross. But I'm sure that'll be next. I'm very disappointed. I've helped Elon a knot a lot. If Elon makes any comment, which he will, as again, Wall Street Journal called these two of the most powerful men on planet Earth. They both have the ability, I mean, they've done it in the past with a lot of high level people. They both have the ability to go farther than anybody I've ever known in my life would ever go in terms of insulting somebody.
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Joe Getty
Well, they are both incredibly powerful, but they are both incredibly undisciplined. Yeah, I mean, I can, I can cite plenty of people who are the most people, powerful people on Earth who would not utter a syllable that they had not carefully considered or would never.
- [29:16]
Jack Armstrong
Personally attack someone, someone, even up, even, even an opponent, let alone somebody on your side. But we' do it over and over and over again. And Elon is quite undisciplined in this. I think there's a chance this blows up into the biggest story of all. I mean, I could imagine some crazy, crazy stuff coming out of posts between Trump and Elon by the end of the day or certainly by the end of the week.
- [29:43]
Joe Getty
Right, right.
- [29:44]
Jack Armstrong
His rockets blow up all the time. He's not a very good engineer, I've been told. You know, and then just, and then it just explodes from there.
- [29:53]
Joe Getty
The other day, Trump was blasting the head of the Federalist Society, which recommended Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett and Neil Gorsuch, who have been absolutely wonderful justices because now some, some of their appointees have been upholding the Constitution, telling Trump no to some of his plans. That's my point of view anyway. And Trump said of, of. I can't remember the guy's name, but he said, was it derelict or scumbag or reprobate? It's one of those words. He said he's a reprobate and he probably doesn't even love America.
- [30:29]
Jack Armstrong
Right.
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Joe Getty
You're gonna get the head of the Federalist, the co. Founder of the Federalists.
- [30:33]
Jack Armstrong
You're gonna get that from Trump toward Elon at some point. And Elon is not. Is gonna say something sober. Yes, Michael.
- [30:39]
Joe Getty
I'm picturing Trump saying, who names their child X?
- [30:42]
Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah. It could be all kinds of.
- [30:44]
Joe Getty
Well, hey, fair criticism.
- [30:46]
Jack Armstrong
I heard he has a drug problem, whatever the hell. And then Elon will not hold back tall. So the George Carlin of me in me that just watches the world and is amused, is really looking forward to it. The I want us to be a successful nation part of me is not so excited.
- [31:04]
Joe Getty
Yeah, I've got a bit of a feeling of sad resignation on my shoulders at this point, if you like to hear it described. So I would like to apologize to the American people.
- [31:17]
Jack Armstrong
Okay.
- [31:19]
Joe Getty
There's not a single chance. It would be idiotic to launch into the whole science and falling in love thing now. We don't even have a fraction of the time left that we need. Why don't we do it as part of the Armstrong and Getty on demand? I'm sorry, one more thing. Podcast.
- [31:33]
Jack Armstrong
Cool. That sounds good. Give me the tease.
- [31:37]
Joe Getty
If you. This. This is how to fall in love. And it can be accomplished in an hour.
- [31:44]
Jack Armstrong
Haven't.
- [31:44]
Joe Getty
Haven't you and another person. You've hit it off. You like each other. You'd kind of like for it to go somewhere. I can have you in love in an hour.
- [31:54]
Jack Armstrong
But doesn't. Hasn't the way it's been working been fine for people?
- [31:58]
Joe Getty
No, no, no, no. Oh, my God. You're a reprobate who probably doesn't love America. No. It's, you know, circumstances can intervene and. And things can happen. And something very, very promising went sideways and it shouldn't have. Besides, it's the go go 21st century. Who has weeks and months to fall in love? This is actually, you know, we're making light and I'm being very vague. I found it a very, very interesting. Dissection is an unfortunate term, but that's what popped into my head of how true intimacy is built. And you can, like, supercharge the process and save a lot of time.
- [32:45]
Jack Armstrong
Wow. Do you want to save time or is the gradual process one of the greatest things that ever happens in your entire life? But.
- [32:53]
Joe Getty
And it has its own advantages that we just don't sense because we're humans and we're dopey. That is possible.
- [33:00]
Jack Armstrong
And then you've got the story. We started the Hour with where the, the government of California has decided to step in. And if you're enjoying falling in love with your chatbot every three hours, the state of California will remind you on your screen, remember, you're talking to a computer. Do not be happy. Now, as you were.
- [33:19]
Joe Getty
The more I think about the Elon v. Trump feud, the more I'm dreading.
- [33:24]
Jack Armstrong
It'S going to be. I just, I could go, go back and dig up examples of things they've each said to people that are just so over the top. But if you get it, being toward the president from the richest man in the world or vice versa, I mean, it takes on a whole, I mean, him saying things about, I don't know, you know, what's his name, Carson the Doctor or Marco Rubio or whoever, you know, Rosie o' Donnell, that's one thing. But the world's richest man, who does not need to hold back for any reason whatsoever. And the sorts of things Elon might say about so, so Trump said, well, let's throw this up.
- [34:05]
Joe Getty
You know, go ahead. But it's, it's not, it's less what he says than what he does. That's the part that's got me feeling, oh, ish. Using the levers of the power of the executive branch to lash back. Hello.
- [34:20]
Jack Armstrong
@ SpaceX or Twitter or whatever in.
- [34:22]
Joe Getty
A way that may be unpalatable to the courts and the American people and 2/3 of the Senate, if you hear me hinting.
- [34:32]
Jack Armstrong
So this, this might be what kicks it off. Trump said this and, you know, Elon's upset because we took the EV mandate and, you know, which was a lot of money for electric vehicles and, you know, they're having a hard time, the electric vehicles. So that makes the point. So he's already claiming that Elon is against the bill because it financially damages him.
- [34:58]
Joe Getty
Not a principled stance against overspending and suffocating debt. No, it is a selfish motivation, which.
- [35:04]
Jack Armstrong
Elon has been talking about for years and talking about, hey, look, our interest payments are now greater than what we spend on the military, blah, blah, blah, oh, 100% defendable positions on the bill. And Trump claims just because it's hurting you financially, that would get my hair up. That would make me angry.
- [35:25]
Joe Getty
I could believe it's both, too. I mean, Elon can't possibly be pleased at the loss of the evening credits.
- [35:31]
Jack Armstrong
But he has been talking about the debt and how it's unsustainable and it's going to ruin the country for years. So I don't think he's going to react well to that statement that just happened in the last 45 minutes. So, you know, Elon, I'm sure he's changing the diaper on one baby while he teaches another kid how to ride a bike. And then he's up on another one with algebra homework here on the last week of school. And you know, he's very Busy with his 13 kids, but as soon as he hears what Trump said, he might fire back something. And then it's on. Ladies and gentlemen, truth Social versus Twitter.
- [36:04]
Joe Getty
Oh, boy.
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Jack Armstrong
Let it fly. We will finish strong next.
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Leon Nayfak
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.
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Joe Getty
Did you make a mistake in sending.
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Jack Armstrong
Arms to Tehran, sir? No.
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Leon Nayfak
It became known as the Iran Contra affair.
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Jack Armstrong
And I'm not taking any more questions. In just a second, I'm going to ask.
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Leon Nayfak
I'm Leon Nayfak, co creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.
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Joe Getty
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
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Jack Armstrong
Please do.
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Leon Nayfak
To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [38:12]
Joe Getty
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand?
- [38:16]
Jack Armstrong
We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and.
- [38:18]
Joe Getty
Tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that.
- [38:23]
Jack Armstrong
Hey, I'M Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty.
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Joe Getty
We're Armstrong and Get yeti.
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Jack Armstrong
We try to bring you the truth.
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Joe Getty
And help you figure out this crazy modern world about something about a comedic tone. We have a winner. Yes.
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Jack Armstrong
Listen to Armstrong and Yeti on demand on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or.
- [38:41]
Joe Getty
Wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jack Armstrong
So every day after the show, Joe and I joke about how bad the show was today and maybe we can do better tomorrow. So our executive producer Hansen said, make a song in that theme like it's 70s soft rock. Let's try to put this one behind us.
- [39:02]
Joe Getty
Just tam down the shame. AI. Obviously, maybe we do better tomorrow.
- [39:11]
Jack Armstrong
We can only hope.
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Jack Armstrong
Then a 70s guitar solo after a 70s drum fill.
- [39:23]
Joe Getty
Please give the drummer some love. Yeah, if you're old enough, AI.
- [39:29]
Jack Armstrong
But I was just talking to our boss Steve, who's roughly our age, and he said he couldn't believe how dead on 70s rock music this was. Here comes the chorus, ladies and germs.
- [39:46]
Joe Getty
Be Armstrong and get it show. Just tamp down the shame Tamping down.
- [39:57]
Jack Armstrong
The shame now maybe we do better.
- [40:01]
Joe Getty
Tomorrow Unless we continue to be so. This is uncanny and freaky and disturbing. From the Elton John esque couple of interesting twists on an obvious chord progression to the timber of his voice is very Elton esque too. The. The production is exactly right. Not to geek out on you, but just the way it's mixed and how loud the drums are and the amount of reverb and the lead guitar, it's all out of like 70s music production. It's disturbing and I feel like it.
- [40:40]
Jack Armstrong
Picked up some sticks and Peter Frampton and all kinds of different stuff from the 70s.
- [40:44]
Joe Getty
Oh, yeah, yeah. A little sprinkle of this sprinkle just distilled it down.
- [40:48]
Jack Armstrong
And as a wannabe guitar player, it makes me want to cut off my hands. Like, what is going on here?
- [40:57]
Joe Getty
I don't, I don't know. I really, I don't think I am an old man yelling at clouds. I really don't. My animal instincts are danger, danger. You know what? I don't think I've ever put it that plainly.
- [41:21]
Jack Armstrong
That your animal instincts are.
- [41:23]
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah. My instinctive reaction to this is this is bad. This is a threat. That's as simple as that. I've found various ways to. To phrase that concern, but that's, that's, that's the best description I can give. It's an instinctive revulsion.
- [41:39]
Jack Armstrong
Well, I mentioned that book. I'm Reading about AI and I'll have more of it as I get through the book. But he, he, he says we should feel that way and, and not. And not, and not, not feel that way because something big is coming and we gotta think about it.
- [41:55]
Joe Getty
So you know, you know what? I'm reminded though of what finally helped me enjoy sports more right after clip 15. Michael, give me clip 15. Give it to me. For the first overtime, here's McDavid out for Nugent Hopkins now to the point. Bouchard. Nugent Hopkins with it. Here's McDavid out in front.
- [42:19]
Jack Armstrong
Whoa, listen to that crowd.
- [42:22]
Joe Getty
The Oilers win game one. Oh, I've been rooting hard for the Oilers. I'm a, I'm last couple of years big Oilers fan. I love playoff hockey so much. Due respect to basketball fans, it is if you understand the game, there's no comparison because the decisive play could happen in the first minute, the 23rd minute or the last minute. Every minute is critically important in a hockey game as opposed to basketball where there's a three and a half quarter exhibition and then they play hard for four minutes. Minutes. Plus they play on ice, which is cool. Yes, it's on ice, Michael. It's a good point.
- [42:59]
Jack Armstrong
The NBA or the hockey. Yeah. So it's got that whole soccer thing there with, you know, as score is such a big deal. Listen to that crowd though. Wow, that was something. So obviously it was in Canada. They haven't, Canada, you know, they, Hockey means so much to them. They haven't won the Stanley cup in 32 years. 33 years.
- [43:17]
Joe Getty
Yeah. The whole country is beside themselves rooting for Edmonton. So anyway, playoff hockey. Oh. What I started to say was the only thing that comforts me as I watch mankind slide into the. The abyss is that just like watching sports, I don't actually have any effect on the outcome. Well, I mean we have a teeny tiny effect doing this show, but not really the, the great tidal forces that are sweeping humankind toward, you know, whatever AI powered droid nightmare. It's gonna happen whether I like it or not.
- [43:51]
Jack Armstrong
I was thinking about that last night about so fascinated by this and I just can't get enough information about it. Part of is that I, I would like to have some hand in guiding my kids to how that. What the hell their lives are going to be like. If I can get an inkling of that, they, their lives could be more different from mine than has ever happened in one generation in human history. In fact, I think that might guaranteed to be true.
- [44:16]
Joe Getty
I think that's inevitable. Yeah. I think you've nailed it.
- [44:19]
Jack Armstrong
Yep.
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Wow. Think about that.
- [44:21]
Joe Getty
Well, I think their lives may be more different from yours than yours were from the Founding Fathers.
- [44:29]
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
- [44:31]
Joe Getty
It's Final Thoughts. I'm strong again. It's Final Thoughts. It's Final Thoughts.
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Jack Armstrong
I'm strong.
- [44:39]
Joe Getty
Get ready with Katie Green and Michael Angelo. It's Final Thought. I'm Strong together. Yeah.
- [44:45]
Jack Armstrong
Here's your host for Final Thoughts, Joe Getty.
- [44:48]
Joe Getty
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the show for the day. There he is, Michelangelo pressing the buttons. Michael, what's your final thought? All right, guys. Coming soon, Elon Musk versus Donald Trump in a UFC fight. Dana White will be there to promote it.
- [45:04]
Jack Armstrong
A real fight.
- [45:05]
Joe Getty
Or like, or, I mean, well, you.
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Jack Armstrong
Know, like the pro rat.
- [45:09]
Joe Getty
He wanted Mark Zuckerberg.
- [45:10]
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. He challenged Mark. Mark to.
- [45:12]
Joe Getty
It's almost 80. Got a weight advantage, though. Katie Greener, esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie. There's a new Katie's corner up@armstronggetty.com and you can see the photo of Drew's birthday dinner last night where I wore a shirt covered in his face. Oh, wow. Just pictures of his face. You're a big fan.
- [45:31]
Jack Armstrong
He was mortified.
- [45:32]
Joe Getty
Yeah, I'll bet he was. Jack, final thought.
- [45:34]
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I don't want to let that lay without repeating it. My kids kids lives are going to be more different from mine. That has happened than any generation in human history. And I think that is probably true.
- [45:48]
Joe Getty
My final thought is I watched the video that a guy made to distribute to his parents and grandparents, taping them to how good AI is and how this isn't real. This isn't real. This isn't real. In this, this isn't real. I think it's really great and important and cool and it's@armstrongyetti.com if you want to zap it around. Is that the one we've got at Katie's Corner? Yes, maybe. Yes. Yes.
- [46:17]
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Yeti wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.
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Joe Getty
So many people to thank, so little time. Go to armstrong getty.com for that fine video. It's really quite amazing. Drop us a Note mailbag@armstrongetti.com Pick up some swag while you're there. A hat or a hoodie.
- [46:33]
Jack Armstrong
You know, as you heard in the song, so much disappointment, so much shame. We'll try to do better tomorrow. We'll see you then. God bless America, Armstrong. And get it. This is fabulous.
- [46:43]
Joe Getty
Perhaps you also know that Hot dog is my favorite meat.
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Jack Armstrong
That was not. None of that did not come from a dog.
- [46:50]
Joe Getty
But damn it, let's not play games with this.
- [46:52]
Jack Armstrong
This is the United States of America for God's sake.
- [46:55]
Joe Getty
Lie after lie after lie.
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Jack Armstrong
Do not listen to the lies.
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This is what will happen to you.
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Joe Getty
Ne?
- [47:01]
Jack Armstrong
Okay, this is all crazy. This is a mess.
- [47:04]
Joe Getty
Yup. That's enough of that.
- [47:05]
Jack Armstrong
I thank you.
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Joe Getty
I'm just saying. Have a terrific day. Armstrong and Getty.
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Jack Armstrong
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- [48:38]
Joe Getty
Why should you listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand?
- [48:42]
Jack Armstrong
We're not boring. A lot of news is boring and.
- [48:44]
Joe Getty
Tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that.
- [48:49]
Jack Armstrong
Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty.
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Joe Getty
We're Armstrong and Getty.
- [48:52]
Jack Armstrong
We try to bring you the truth.
- [48:53]
Joe Getty
And help you figure out throughout this crazy modern world about something about a comedic tone. We have a winner. Yes.
- [49:02]
Jack Armstrong
Listen to Armstrong. You get it on Demand on the.
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Joe Getty
Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [49:08]
Leon Nayfak
In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran Contra Affair.
- [49:21]
Joe Getty
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
- [49:26]
Jack Armstrong
Please do.
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Leon Nayfak
To hear the whole story, listen to Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [49:38]
Joe Getty
This is an iHeart podcast.