We Need Some Slappin'

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand — "We Need Some Slappin’"

Episode Date: August 18, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode of Armstrong & Getty centers on cultural and social changes in America—especially the evolving behaviors around college conformity, economic shifts due to tariffs, and decreasing American mobility. The hosts blend political and social commentary with their signature humor, moving from economic analysis to a deep dive on "preference falsification" on college campuses, finishing with discussion of a major political summit at the White House regarding the Ukraine-Russia conflict.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

1. Changing Back-to-School Supplies & Cultural Commentary

• Concerned Parents and Campus Dangers:
  • Opening with news that parents are now adding Narcan (overdose antidote) to college packing lists alongside condoms and Plan B.
  • Quote:

    "Condoms, Narcan, and Plan B. What Hunter Biden calls a value meal."
    — Jack Armstrong (03:23)

  • Commentary: Emphasizes concerns about drug safety in college, using dark humor to highlight a shifting culture.

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2. Political Updates: Rubio & the White House Summit

• Marco Rubio’s Media Gauntlet:

  • Rubio appeared on several talk shows to address events from "Friday" (likely political or international developments).
  • Hosts remain skeptical about the optimistic interpretations of such political spin.
  • Quote:

    "I’d say I’ve been talked down from complete disaster to maybe 50/50."
    — Joe Getty (05:06)

• Historic European Leaders’ Summit at the White House:

  • An unprecedented gathering of European leaders (Macron, Starmer, Mertz, Italy’s Prime Minister) with Trump and Zelensky.

  • Importance: Never before in history have so many European leaders gathered at the White House simultaneously.

  • Key point: The private Trump–Zelensky meeting excludes European leaders, raising questions about diplomatic impact.

  • Quote:

    "All these different European leaders are going to arrive at the White House at noon today... This has just never ever happened before."
    — Joe Getty (47:10)

  • Hosts speculate whether the meeting results in progress on Ukraine or devolves into chaos, given the mix of personalities and unsolved issues.

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3. Economic Shifts: Tariffs and “Stuck” America

• Tariffs & Inflation:

  • The hosts explain the mechanics of tariffs: while U.S. consumers haven’t yet seen major price hikes, producer prices are rising.
  • Companies are absorbing costs—for now—but this may not last, especially as inventories run out.
  • Quote:

    "Anybody tells you what the effect is going to be on consumers, doesn’t know what they’re talking about."
    — Jack Armstrong (07:38)

• Declining American Mobility:

  • Americans are moving, switching jobs, and chasing opportunity less than ever.
  • Anecdotes: Remembering when the U.S. was "world famous for mobility"—with moving day traditions and the idea that Americans go wherever opportunity is.
  • Stats:
    • 1950s–60s: ~20% of Americans moved each year
    • 2019: 9.8%
    • 2023: 7.8%—lowest since census records began in 1948
    • COVID-19 led to only a temporary surge in moving
  • Quote:

    "You got to go back to the 1910s and 20s to have those mass movings... In 2023, only 7.8% of Americans moved, the lowest rate logged since the U.S. census started records in 1948."
    — Jack Armstrong (10:05)

• Reasons for Staying Put:

  • Older population, dual-income households, unaffordable housing, and low locked-in mortgages.
  • Reflection on benefits of rootedness (family support networks) versus opportunity missed by staying put.

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4. European Heat Wave and Climate “Energy Sobriety”

• France’s Heat Policy:
  • French government campaigns for “energy sobriety”—avoiding AC, using fans and limiting oven use, and setting AC no lower than 78°F, only in one room.
  • Armstrong and Getty contrast this with American attitudes, sharing stories about “thermostat shaming.”
  • Memorable Anecdote:
    Joe Getty recalls someone in his home raising his thermostat during a California energy crisis to “save the grid”—an act he found presumptuous and invasive.

    "Changing your thermostat—guy who reaches over and changes your radio in the car thinks that’s ballsy."
    — Jack Armstrong (13:58)

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5. Main Segment: College Conformity, Preference Falsification, and Preference Cascades

Background:
A major share of the episode is devoted to discussing "preference falsification," referencing Glenn Harlan Reynolds’s column and a new study (Forrest Rom & Kevin Waldman, 2023-25) on ideological conformity in universities.

What Is Preference Falsification?

• Definition: People conceal their true views and pretend to adhere to dominant ideas due to fear of social/legal repercussions.
• Links to authoritarian practices, but now happening in democracies and especially on American campuses.

Key Findings from the Study

• 88% of students admitted pretending to hold more progressive views than they believed for social/academic success.
• 78% self-censor on gender identity topics; 72% on politics; 68% on family values.

• "88% said they pretended to hold more progressive views than they truly endorse to succeed socially or academically."
  — Jack Armstrong, quoting study (29:45)

• "Our college students are so much more conservative and sane than you think they are, partly because who gets amplified and applauded and publicized is the radical lefty lunatic front."
  — Jack Armstrong (34:40)

The Psychological Cost

• Students are becoming compartmentalized, emotionally fragile, and mistrustful—even with friends (73% report mistrust in value conversations).
• Authenticity is now a social liability; conformity is the safest path.
• Professors and administrations enforce orthodoxy via academic and social incentives/punishments.

Potential for a Preference Cascade

• If enough individuals realize they are not alone in their views, the culture could dramatically and suddenly shift—people become emboldened when they see others sharing their “secret” beliefs.

Standout Statistic

• 87% of students actually believe in binary gender, though only a tiny minority (7%) embrace the idea of “58 genders”—contrary to public campus perceptions.
• 77% disagree with biological sex being overridden by gender identity in sports/healthcare but are afraid to say so aloud.

Notable Quotes

• "It is identity regulation at scale. Inclusion that demands dishonesty is not ensuring psychological safety—it's sanctioning self-abandonment."
  — Jack Armstrong, summarizing study (36:10)

• "These monsters in their ivory towers... It's got to stop. End of screed."
  — Jack Armstrong (41:55)

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6. Miscellaneous Topical Humor

• Gutfeld jab:

  "12% of Americans find Sydney Sweeney's American Eagle ad offensive. The other 88% are able to fit in jeans. Wow."
  — Jack Armstrong (28:45)

• Joking about moving and American “tough love”:

  "It’s better than your mom’s basement."
  — Jack Armstrong (09:21)

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7. Foreign Policy Wrap-Up

• Ukraine/Russia Peace Prospects:
  • Armstrong lays out the cold reality of peace negotiations: both sides must compromise, even if unpalatable.
  • Quote:

    "In order for there to be an end of the war, there are things Russia wants that it cannot get and there are things Ukraine wants that it’s not going to get. Both sides are going to have to give up something."
    — Jack Armstrong (46:06)

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Notable Quotes (By Timestamp)

• "Condoms, Narcan and Plan B. What Hunter Biden calls a value meal." — Jack Armstrong (03:23)
• "I’d say I’ve been talked down from complete disaster to maybe 50/50." — Joe Getty (05:06)
• "Anybody tells you what the effect is going to be on consumers, doesn’t know what they’re talking about." — Jack Armstrong (07:38)
• "88% said they pretended to hold more progressive views than they truly endorse to succeed socially or academically." — Jack Armstrong (29:45, quoting study)
• "Our college students are so much more conservative and sane than you think they are, partly because who gets amplified... is the radical lefty lunatic front." — Jack Armstrong (34:40)
• "It is identity regulation at scale. Inclusion that demands dishonesty is not ensuring psychological safety—it’s sanctioning self-abandonment." — Jack Armstrong (36:10)
• "These monsters in their ivory towers... It’s got to stop. End of screed." — Jack Armstrong (41:55)
• "All these different European leaders are going to arrive at the White House at noon today... This has just never ever happened before." — Joe Getty (47:10)
• "In order for there to be an end of the war... Both sides are going to have to give up something." — Jack Armstrong (46:06)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|----------------------------------------------| | 03:23 | Back-to-school safety concerns & satirical jab | | 04:27 | Political preview: Rubio, White House meetings| | 05:14 | Economic: Who pays tariffs & rising prices | | 06:12 | Economic: Corporate strategies & consumer impact| | 07:38 | Commentary: Tariffs — uncertainty for consumers| | 08:43 | American mobility is in decline | | 10:05 | Historical stats on declining moves | | 12:42 | French heatwave and climate "sobriety" | | 13:58 | Thermostat anecdote and "energy shaming" | | 19:46 | Bill Maher: party politics and guest shyness | | 21:24 | Midwestern moderate Democrat in Iowa | | 29:45 | “Preference falsification” — key study findings| | 34:40 | Conservative views hidden on campus | | 36:10 | Institutional “identity regulation” explained | | 41:55 | Armstrong’s final anti-conformity screed | | 46:06 | Ukraine/Russia: The hard reality of compromise | | 47:10 | White House summit logistics and significance |

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Episode Tone and Format

• Tone: Conversational, irreverent, sometimes satirical but deeply engaged with current events and cultural shifts.
• Style: Back-and-forth, with quick transitions between news, anecdote, and commentary; willingness to rant and editorialize.

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Quick Summary

• Cultural Shifts: Decline in American mobility, rising economic uncertainty, and concerns about safety and conformity in modern college life.
• Campus Conformity: New research shows most college students hide true beliefs, echoing the psychological costs of conformity—repressed authenticity, identity confusion, and societal self-censorship.
• Political Developments: Discussion about a never-before-seen European leaders' summit at the White House, and the limits of both Ukraine and Russia in forging peace.
• Memorable Moments: Humor about “value meal” college supply lists, Pennsylvania Dutch-style moving statistics, and a dramatic narrative on “preference falsification” backed by data.

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For listeners who missed this episode:
The show blends serious societal analysis with laughs—including lessons on institutional psychological dynamics, American values past and present, and a heads-up on a crucial international meeting. A must-listen for those concerned about cultural shifts, higher education, and the intersection of politics and daily life.

Transcript

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Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

And now here's Armstrong and Getty. Concerned parents of incoming college freshmen are adding Narcan to back to school lists this year along with condoms and Plan B. Wow. Condoms, Narcan and Plan B. What Hunter Biden calls a value meal.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, later this hour, how about a little Marco Rubio for you? He was on all the shows yesterday, getting the hell beat out of him, trying to explain Friday. And either you buy his, his explanation or you don't. And then of course, today, in case you weren't following the news over the weekend, the biggest European leaders that exist are going to be meeting at the White House with Trump and Zelinsky and J.D. vance is going to be there yelling at Zelinsky or something, who knows what. But that is quite a meeting that's going on at the White House today.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wish Trump's golf buddy from Finland was going to be there because he's really got his ear. But he, I didn't see him on the guest list. Maybe people are just not mentioning him because he's kind of down the list.

[Joe Getty]

I don't, I saw the list and he wasn't on there. And Donald Tusk of Poland, I was hoping was gonna be there. He's not gonna be there. But what's her name from Italy that I really like? The Italian prime minister. She's a hard ass. She'll be there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. More on that to come. We'll play you some Marco Rubio audio and see if you like. Jack and Mark Halpern and others have been appeased by his, his words, more or less and that the deal is in the works. They're working on it. It's midstream. You can't judge yet.

[Joe Getty]

I'd say I've been talked down from complete disaster to maybe 50, 50. I'm not, I'm not on the side of this is a good thing that happened on Friday.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you've been appeased like Hitler. Just, it's fine. Anyway, I thought we'd take a look more close to home for a couple of things. Who's paying the tariffs at this point? Not consumers mostly. But it's interesting some of those, the economic numbers that were released at the end of last week, you get the, like the number one number. But some of the numbers behind the numbers are really interesting. The producer price index rose almost 1% in the month and 3.3% over the last year. Consumer price data was much smaller. It implied that households were, were not experiencing tariff induced price increases except in a few services like medical care. But the producer price index numbers tell us this partly because companies are paying higher prices but have not passed them on to consumers yet.

[Joe Getty]

And is that because they're hoping this tariff thing will go away and they, and they don't have to?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's part of it. Plus they, they planned because they, you know, it was telegraphed. So they moved up lots and lots of imports and filled the, the warehouses so their costs would be lower. But eventually that stuff is going to run out. Producer price data gets worse the closer you look. Goods and services both experience substantial inflation. 7%. That's confusing. But goods and services related to business investment in particular becoming pricier with the cost of manufacturing equipment rising almost half a percent in one month and related services four and a half percent in a month. So the birds of the tariffs have not yet come home to roost. Anybody tells you what the effect is going to be on consumers, it doesn't know what they're talking about. Probably nobody's sure, so we'll just have to wait and see. Speaking of consumers, I thought this was so interesting. We've talked about this once or twice through the years. Nobody's buying homes, nobody's switching jobs and nobody moves anymore. It used to be the US globally speaking, was like world famous for mobility. We were the movingest people on earth. Wherever the opportunity was, Americans would go. And most Americans moved every year to pursue opportunities. Yeah, we talked about this in the early 20th century. Like all of those old timey pictures you've seen of wagons loaded up to the sky with goods in old timey urban highways or you know, streets of cities. That was moving day, which was a single day traditionally in the springtime where Americans would up and move. I got to refine that article. It was so interesting. But a number of different factors including just cultural norms. Folks no longer move. They don't chase from city to city, state to state. U.S. companies were often quicker to hire and fire than employers in other parts of the world. But that has stalled as well. Others slapped with golden handcuffs. They have homes when mortgage rates are low or have stable white collar jobs and don't want to leave them. Plus, young people who don't land good jobs soon after college usually just stay where they are waiting and never really recover from those years of diminished earnings.

[Joe Getty]

I don't get that. I get if you're. I get if you're making a decent living, like not great, but okay. And you decide. I don't want to move because family situations, friends, all that sort of stuff, that's a lifestyle choice. But if you're 22 and you ain't got nothing going on, I'd go wherever you can find a good job. But that's. That's just me.

[Jack Armstrong]

100. Partly because it's an adventure, it's fun. I've done it many times. It's cool. You ought to do it.

[Joe Getty]

It's also hard and.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And you get to a new town and you don't know anybody. I mean it's, it has its heart.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, it's better than your mom's basement.

[Joe Getty]

I've done it 50 times. So.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, tough love. Jack, we need a slapping. Not sure. Manby, Bambi. Sympathy. So here's some stats for you. Now. You got to go back to the line like 1910s and 20s to have like those mass movings that I was talking about every year. But in the 50s and 60th, these 20% of Americans would move typically every year. One out of five every would move, you know, every year.

[Joe Getty]

My family was one of them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Part of the, the slowing is that the US population has aged and so we're less likely to move as we age. But. Oh, and two household earners. That gets a little more complicated too.

[Joe Getty]

Sure. Because you both gotta. Yeah. Find new jobs. Sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. And, and this isn't a, you know, this is a bad thing and people should be condemned for it. I mean, some of it might be, but it's okay. It's just kind of an observation, a change. So 20% in the 50s and 60s. By 2019, the year before COVID it was 9.8% of Americans. So a little less than half. Then you got the COVID surge. That was brief. But then in 2023, only 7.8% of Americans moved, the lowest rate logged since the U.S. census started records in 1948. And that number seems to have held steady in 2024.

[Joe Getty]

And I come from a moving family. My dad moved a lot. I, I lived a bunch of different places as a kid and Then I've moved a ton, tons of times as an adult. So I just, I'm kind of built that way. So it's always interesting me when I run into people that, you know, I'm sixth generation this or whatever, you know, my been in the same area and all your brothers and sisters, everybody, everybody lives there and I can see the tremendous advantage of that. Family wise. It would be awesome, man. Your kids, you have built in babysitters, your kids have all the cousins and aunts and uncles by.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's super cool. But oh yeah.

[Joe Getty]

As far as having an opportunity job wise, I am a big fan of going where they're hiring.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah, indeed. So moving along to another. Oh, that's right. I knew I had one more thought. It's. And, and they profile in this piece in the Wall Street Journal a lot, a lot of young families that are trying to like, find a bigger house because they're having kids or what have you and just the artificially low rates of covids and the skyrocketing housing prices, just everybody's stuck. Well, we've talked about that plenty of times. And the only thing that will undo that is time. Final story. Consumer oriented. Jack, you'll love this one. France, so enlightened, so cultured. France, they're sweltering under a heat wave this week, but the leadership and climate schools are absolutely refusing to drop any of their climate neutrality goals for whatever year in the future they're talking about. And so the French government is gone hardcore suggesting energy sobriety, meaning don't use air conditioning. Air conditioning should be used only those who are very sensitive to heat, elderly people who can't open the window at night, etc. Etc. The rest of us should opt for a fan, draw the blinds, limit heat emissions from ovens, and if you have to use AC, it has to be 78 degrees or higher. And only one room of your house.

[Joe Getty]

I, I'm tempted to tell this story. What would you say, Michael?

[Jack Armstrong]

If it makes you grin, leave it in.

[Joe Getty]

I will be.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got advice.

[Joe Getty]

I have to be vague. You're going to be wanting more details on this. I know you. I can't give them to you.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know you have to take off. Do you want to do that before I can do the Simply Safe commercial?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Let me tell you this story, okay. Because you're going to want more details, like I said, okay. And especially, it's going to be especially astounding to you because you know how few people are ever in my home. Yes, there was somebody in My home.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good lord.

[Joe Getty]

When California on one of the days when California was like struggling with their energy, France like because we have so much freaking green energy that doesn't work, we can't keep up sometimes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right?

[Joe Getty]

Person in my home actually went to my thermostat and turned it up because they thought it was so outrageous that I was keeping it so cool in my home when there are old people that may be dying if the grid.

[Jack Armstrong]

Breaks down and did they recover from their wounds? Did you get your gun?

[Joe Getty]

I can't go any further with that story but that's is amazing. So there are people that have that point of view. You're killing old people by keeping your house comfortable at this temperature.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Christina Quinn]

If you eat too many ultra processed foods, you could be starving your gut microbes and they'll get hangry. That's one of many things I learned after working on a new audio course about the gut microbiome. You can learn how to keep your gut happy by listening to Try this from the Washington Post. I'm Christina Quinn. I host Try this. Dig in with me on practical advice for life's common challenges. Follow. Try this right now, wherever you're listening. Seriously, try it.

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[Political Commentator]

At least Gavin comes here. People ask me all the time, why haven't you ever had Hillary or Bill Clinton on? Why didn't you have Kamala on during the last campaign? You think we don't ask? We ask these people every week. They say no. It took eight years and a petition to get Obama on. And these are people, all people I voted for. Think about that. They're afraid to come on the show of a guy who voted for them. The Republicans, they show up and when they do, they take their beating like a man.

[Jack Armstrong]

Bill Maher on Friday night, he'd been talking just prior to that about a story. We talked about the Democrat congressman who had daughters in sports and said he didn't want the the daughters to get beat up on the field to play by boys masquerading as girls, cosplaying as girls, which some, for some reason, some really mentally disturbed people take seriously and think you can actually be the other sex. I mean it is, it's borderline psychotic anyway for defending girls sports, this Democratic congressman was called a Nazi by, by a bunch of, you know, radical leftists and was thinking it's, you know, he's got to be thinking, man, am I in the right political party. Anyway, Mara went on, I would love.

[Political Commentator]

To have AOC on the show and Mandami and Elizabeth Warren, but I can't subpoena the guests and I can't fix that. What the Democrats are scared of more than anything else, I mean obviously besides gluten is being primaried from the far left. Even though most Democrats are not far left, they're mild mannered and moderate, at least at my bathhouse. If there is one practical thing that Democrats can do right now that would help them regain power. Inspire your moderates to vote in the primaries. Get that base excited. You have the numbers. After Congressman Moulton made his comment about his daughter not getting run over, he added, but as a Democrat, I'm supposed to be afraid to say that. Well, then change what you're supposed to be afraid of.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well said. I'm, I'm struck by the odd situation where I mean, for instance, in Iowa they've got a governor's race coming out up in the the incumbent is not running on the Republican side. And, and so it's, you know, it's a fairly wide open race. And one of the leading Democrats who's going for the job is a gun and hunting enthusiast, proudly Christian. I'm trying to remember all the different stances. He had a very, very Midwestern conservative regular guy who's running as Democrat and the Dem and the Republican Party's like, yeah, this guy's a threat. He's a really credible candidate. He's practically one of us. I mean, blah, blah, blah. Love to see more of that. I don't know exactly in what sense he's a Democrat now, except that it's a brand and he perceives that there's a better opening for him with that logo on his, you know, racing suit than the other one, even though he's espousing beliefs that are utterly foreign to so much of the Democratic Party right now. So I don't. What does it mean to say he's a Democrat? I don't know exactly. Again, I just think it's a branding thing. So can't wait for the next segment. A big new study has some bad news and good news for us. The good news is bigger than the bad news. The bad news is that the the college kids have absolutely been bullied into agreeing with the neo Marxist postmodern party line and they do in huge numbers. The good news is they don't mean it. They had to be bullied, but they don't believe nearly in as big as numbers as you might imagine what you think they do. So that's really interesting. Can't wait to get to it. And it relates directly to this story we were talking about last week. I think it was late in the show and I really wanted to get it on for you good folks. The idea of preference falsification and then a preference cascade. And this fella, what is his name? It's like a really good piece. Oh, that's right. Glenn Harlan Reynolds. He's a professor of law at the University of Tennessee. He's writing about the immigration crisis in, in Britain and how the British government has passed all sorts of draconian laws that would never ever pass muster in this country because of the First Amendment. But these laws that say you can't cause anybody discomfort or issue speech that might incite race hatred. It's all very, very vague. And what's that that's caused is something called preference falsification, where it looks like everybody agrees with, for instance, the government stance because they've been made to pretend to agree with that, but they don't. But you're looking around and you're saying, I think this is madness. And you know, rampant immigration from Somalia is a threat to our way of life and our culture at all. But I don't see anybody disagreeing with me. So I guess I'm in a small minority. But that's because of preference falsification. And then when people fight back against it and say, you know what? I'm going to say what I believe whether I get in trouble or not, all of a sudden everybody realizes, wait a minute, everybody around me has believed what I believed all along. And that's when you get what's called a preference cascade and people are more open about it. Are we on the cusp of a preference cascade? And our universities could be Stay with us Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

According to a new study, 12% of Americans find Sydney Sweeney's American Eagle ad offensive. The other 88% are able to fit in jeans. Wow. Wow. Gutfeld the mean boy in high school. So speaking of attitudes, we're supposed to hold you remember when we were supposed to take seriously for about 90 seconds the idea that oh no good. Jeans, jeans. Blue jeans. Jeans with blue eyes. White supremacy, eugenics. These people, oh my gosh, they're so nuts. And here's the key. So few people actually agree with them so we're talking last segment about preference falsification, and I'll describe to you exactly what it is. This is a great description from Glenn Reynolds, who's a professor of law at University of Tennessee, one of those southern universities where people are flocking now because everybody realizes, oh, they like, teach you stuff there and don't just indoctrinate you into being a good Marxist like the Ivy League. Anyway, so here's his description of a preference falsification. It's a move usually practiced by authoritarian regimes, but now democracies are catching onto it. The trick is you make citizens pretend that they believe what the government says or. Or what the powers that be say. He's talking about immigration in Britain, and so the government is the correct target. We're talking about education, so it's more the administration, the professors and stuff. But anyway, the trick is they make citizens pretend they believe what the administration says and fake their approval of what it does. You promote marches and demonstrations and speech in favor of the preferred positions, and you severely punish marches and demonstrations and speech that oppose those favored positions. You give excuses like stopping, you know, racism or fighting hate speech for shutting down any opposition. You may even have informers that ferret out wrong thinking, report it to the authorities or to employers or to third parties who will engage in extralegal harassment. If you do it right, you can have upward of 90% of your population hating you and your policies, but doing and saying nothing about them because everyone in the 90% thinks they're part of a tiny minority. Resistance will seem futile. This works until it doesn't. The problem with preference falsification is that sooner or later some eventer development can make people realize that what they've been told is popular is in fact very unpopular. When this happens, as Duke University scholar Tamir Koran writes in his book Private Truths, Public Lies, the result is a preference cascade. When let's. When a large swath of the population realizes their dissident views are in fact widely held, they become less afraid of the government or the administration or their professors or the media, and less hesitant about sharing their true sentiments. And then everybody realizes all of a sudden, oh my gosh, not only have I not been in a tiny minority all the way, all the time I've been in it, the. The strong majority, and by the way, we're right. And my prayer is that this is going to happen at some point in the American educational system. Although, my gosh, they've got the teachers, they got the faculty, they got the administration and they're bullying the kids. To wit, really interesting piece in the Hill by a couple of guys, the researchers Forrest Rom and Kevin Waldman. On today's college campuses, students are not maturing, they're managing. Beneath the facade of progressive slogans and institutional virtue signaling lies a quiet psychological crisis driven by the demands of ideological conformity. I first read the write up on this from an opinion writer in the Wall Street Journal. I'm very pleased to see this is in the Hills, which is a very mainstream slash left leaning because you know, they, their, their readership is people who work in Washington D.C. generally in government or lobbyists and all who depend on government. And that crowd tends to be left leaning. Obviously they like more big government. So the fact that this is being published in the Hill and has gotten a bit of attention is very encouraging. Anyway, so here's the story. Between 2023 and 2025, these guys conducted about 1500 confidential interviews with under a couple of universities, Northwestern and University of Michigan. We were not studying politics, we were studying development. Our question was clinical, not political. Quote, what happens to identity formation, which is part of becoming an adult? Who am I? What do I believe? Right. What happens to identity formation when belief is replaced by adherence to orthodoxy? Instead of painstakingly trying to understand the world and coming to a set of beliefs, instead you're just told you need to adhere to this point of view. What happens to identity formation? We asked, have you ever pretended to hold more progressive views than you truly endorse to succeed socially or academically? You want to know what percentage said yes? 88%. 88% said they pretended to hold more progressive views than they truly endorse to succeed socially or academically. These students were not cynical, but adaptive. In a campus environment where grades, leadership and peer belonging often hinge on fluency in performative morality, young adults quickly learned to rehearse what is safe. The result is not conviction or beliefs, but compliance. And beneath that compliance, something vital is lost. Quoting now from the authors, late adolescence and early adulthood represent a narrow and non replicable developmental window. It's during this stage that individuals begin the lifelong work of integrating personal experiences with inherited values, forming the foundations of moral reasoning, internal coherence and emotional resilience. Oh my gosh. Emotional resilience. Toughness. When belief is prescriptive, meaning you're told what to believe, an ideological divergence or disagreement is treated as social risk. That integrative process stalls. Rather than forging a durable sense of self through trial, error and reflection, students learn to compartmentalize publicly, they confront form privately, they question, often in isolation. Oh, but remember what we were just talking about with a preference falsification than preference cascade. They only think they're in isolation. Well, I guess they are in isolation, but so is everybody around them thinking the same things. So insidious. This split between outer presentation and inner conviction not only fragments identity, but arrests its development. And the dissonance shows up everywhere. 78% of the students told us they self censor on their beliefs surrounding gender identity. 78% believe all that gender bending madness is madness, but they gotta be quiet. 72% do that on politics in general, 68% on family values. I mean that's a lot smaller number than the 78% that are. They're soft pedaling their views on gender bending madness, but 68% on just general family values are soft pedaling their views. Our college students are so much more conservative insane than you think they are, partly because who gets amplified and applauded and publicized and the radical lefty lunatic front, the normie kids just they, they're afraid, so they're quiet and, and they certainly don't make any noise. And if they do, they're, they're punished or ignored anyway. More than 80% said they had submitted classwork that misrepresented their views in order to align with professors. For many this has become second nature, an instinct for academic and professional self preservation. Listen, maybe it was because I was clueless or stubborn or something as a youngster, but when I was in school and I was in a political science economics pre law program that had lots and lots and lots of the sort of stuff we're talking about in it, I never once misrepresented my view in order to align with a professor. Maybe I didn't have a view at that point, but that's terrible. To test the gap between expression and belief, we use gender discourse, a contentious topic, both highly visible and ideological. Ideologically loaded, write the authors. In public, students were echoed. I'm sorry? In public, students echoed expected progressive narratives. In private, however, their views were more complex. 87% identified as exclusively heterosexual. 87% and supported a binary model of gender. There's men and there's women, period. That's 87%. 9% expressed partial openness to gender fluidity. 7% embrace the idea of gender as a broad spectrum. And most of these belong to activist circles. Practically nobody. Nobody believed there's 58 genders and you get to choose what you are. Practically nobody. 7%. How different is this from the perception We've all formed of what college kids actually think because they've been psychologically battered into conformity. I am not a violent man, but I swear to God, I'd like to take a bulldozer to a lot of our college campuses. Metaphorically, of course. Perhaps most telling, 77%, and these are college kids, said they disagreed with the idea that gender identity should override biological sex in domains such as sports, health care, or public data, but would never voice that disagreement aloud. So of the 87% that say no, there's dudes and there's gals, that's it. 87%. All but 10% of those said, I would never say that out loud. Holy crap, these poor kids are bullied. It's Stockholm syndrome. They're terrified to speak their minds. I caramba. 38% described themselves as morally confused, uncertain whether honesty was still ethical, if it meant exclusion, whatever that means. Authenticity, once considered a good thing for all of us psychologically, has become a social liability. And this fragmentation does not end at the classroom door. 73% of students reported mistrust in conversations about these values with close friends. They were afraid to even talk to their friends. That's that. That preference falsification, that's its direct fruit. They're sure their friends, excuse me, disagree with them. Even though 87% agree with them, they're terrified to say anything out loud. This is not simply peer pressure. It is identity regulation at scale. Being institutionalized universities often justified these dynamics in the name of inclusion. But inclusion that demands dishonesty is not ensuring psychological safety. It is sanctioning self abandonment in attempting to engineer moral unity. Higher education is mistaken consensus for growth and compliance, for care. And the students know it's wrong when they're given permission to speak freely. Many describe the experience of participating as not only liberating, but clarifying for students trained to perform, the act of telling the truth felt radical. Finally, if higher education is to fulfill its promise as a site of intellectual and moral development, it must relearn the difference between support and supervision. It must recenter truth, not consensus, as its animating value. And it must give back to students what has been taken from them the right to believe and the space to be calm. I don't know how exactly you can join this fight. Maybe it's by supporting organizations or, I don't know, podcasts, radio shows that are fighting the fight. Uh, but man, we've gotta win this for the youngsters. They are being mentally and intellectually tortured and bullied by these monsters. These monsters in their ivory towers and it's gotta stop. End of screed. Stay with us.

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[Jack Armstrong]

So in order for there to be a peace deal, this is just a fact. We may not like it, it may not be pleasant, it may be distasteful, but in order for there to be an end of the war, there are things Russia wants that it cannot get and there are things Ukraine wants that it's not going to get. Both sides are going to have to give up something in order to get to the table in order to make this happen. That's just the way it is. And I mean the sooner we accept that that's the reality. I think our time capitulation, Neville Chamberlain.

[Joe Getty]

I think Marco went on, I think Marco went on five shows yesterday. Man, that would be a long day. And Witkoff on two more. So seven shows covered by the Trump administration. Baba explaining what's the right word that's not prejudicial, what's going on and what happened on Friday. So we'll get into that more in hour three. What Marco had to say. And you'll either agree with or you won't. But here's the schedule for Dick and this is historic. This has never happened in world history where you've had this many European leaders meeting at the White House at one time. This has just never ever happened again before.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now.

[Joe Getty]

Part of it is travel made it impossible up until 70s, 80s, but still it's never happened. All these different European leaders are going to arrive at the White House at noon today. White House time him South Portico, White House press pool, TV crew, still photographers only. People will be shouting questions, of course. Whether Trump answers any or not is always completely up to him. But you got Macron of France, you got Starmer of Great Britain, you got Mertz of Germany, you got what's her name from Italy, who is a, a testy buster herself and big on supporting Ukraine. But anyway, all these world leaders are going to be here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here.

[Joe Getty]

Then the President is participating in a bilateral meeting in the Oval Office with President Zelensky of Ukraine. That's just the President and Zelensky. The European leaders aren't going to be in there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Huh.

[Joe Getty]

So they're all getting there, but they ain't going to be in the meeting with Zelensky. It's going to be Trump and J.D.

[Jack Armstrong]

Vance. No, you don't have the cards.

[Joe Getty]

Have you ever said thank you, JD Vance will be there. So see how that goes. There is reporting that Zielinski's wearing a suit jacket without a tie as opposed to his military garb since. Do you even own a suit? Became a thing last.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my. Completely irrelevant. People are dying.

[Joe Getty]

It is completely irrelevant. But so that was news to me that the Trump Zelensky thing, I mean, so all that talk about the European leaders are going there to help Zelensky if he gets attacked. Ain't gonna do any good when it's Trump, JD And Zelensky alone in the Oval Office.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Although obviously this strategy is for all of the Euro leaders to blunt any idea that Zelensky's being unreasonable when he says Putin can't be trusted. They are gonna stand up one after the other and say everything he says is lies. Right after. You have to remember that right after.

[Joe Getty]

The bilateral meeting, the President meets all the European leaders and they're having a meeting, a multilateral meeting with European leaders at three. So a full two hours later. So, man, there's some jazzy stuff that could happen today, news wise. I mean, it's, I hope it doesn't go off the rails because that wouldn't serve anybody. But it's certainly the possibility exists at a pretty high level for things to go off the rails, don't you think?

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[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Well, I would say that there could be enormous news made today in a number of different directions. You mentioned it last week. Trump has the reputation for being swayed by the last person he talks to. And obviously the Euros plus Zelinsky are, are, are anxious for that to happen and it could be they will sway him. I just, I have no idea which way this thing goes.

[Joe Getty]

I don't either. I think we'll have a much clearer idea what Friday was all about after today.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

One one thing that's guaranteed the idea that news won't be made. Yeah, there'll be plenty of news made today. And if you miss a segment or an hour of this show, get the Podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand.

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