Weird Young People

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: “Weird Young People”

Date: March 9, 2026

Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Overview

In this episode, Armstrong & Getty dive into a variety of cultural and political topics, focusing heavily on generational shifts in workplace behavior, global political tensions, and recent domestic incidents in New York. The hosts bring their signature blend of humor, skepticism, and candid analysis, discussing everything from Gen Z's challenges in the labor market to global order, AI anxiety, and shifting political favorability.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter and Current Events

• The show opens in its usual irreverent style, with Jack and Joe joking about odd etiquette news and segues quickly into a series of stories centering on Iran, international politics, and the world order.
• [03:24] Discussion about the Iranian national women’s soccer team seeking asylum after protesting their regime, allegedly with support from Trump and the Australian Prime Minister.
• [03:32] Coverage of British Prime Minister Keir Starmer’s flagging popularity and perceived weakness as US-UK relations come under strain (“One of the closest relationships…is in tatters over this. He’s gonna go soon.”—Jack Armstrong, 03:32).
• [04:26] Commentary on the hypocrisy of progressive prosecutors being tough on gun laws but failing to prosecute gun crimes.

2. Focus Segment: “Weird Young People” – Gen Z in the Workplace

• [05:08] Joe introduces an article on Gen Z's workplace struggles, citing psychologist observations:
  • Gen Z is described as missing key social and workplace skills due to their upbringing—fewer real-world relationships, reliance on remote/online education, and communication via asynchronous methods (texting, messaging).
  • Joe reads the gist: “Young employees often don’t have the skills they need to navigate organizations. Leaders should first understand the problem and then figure out how to fill the gaps.”
• [06:11] The decline in young adults’ experience with romantic relationships is discussed as a loss of critical life and social skills.
  • “These experiences matter… Early relationships teach us basic social competencies… all skills we use at work as adults.” —Joe Getty, 08:55
• [09:30] Loss of “free-range childhood” identified as a missing, crucial social learning tool.
  • “If you had 15 college educations, you could not learn as much as you learned on your summer days doing that.”—Joe Getty, 11:22
• [12:18] Jack pushes back (“I think food is worse. But I see your point.”) but concurs on the value of unsupervised play for developing interpersonal negotiation skills.
• Humorous Interlude: Jack jokes about AI eliminating all jobs so no one ever needs those skills (“AI is going to wipe out all the jobs, so nobody will ever have to do that.” —Jack Armstrong, 12:59).

3. AI and the Purpose of Work

• [13:28] Listener Ryan from Sacramento writes in, questioning the idea that work is essential for finding purpose—especially when so many find their jobs “unfulfilling.”
  • “There’s not a job on this earth that I want to be obligated to devote the majority of my time and life to. I’d be shocked if that was a minority opinion.”—Ryan, read by Joe, 16:47
• [17:21] Jack and Joe reflect on “job fulfillment privilege,” noting that many people work jobs they actively dislike simply for a paycheck.
  • “It's hard to hold your nose and vote for a crowd that pretends that operations for trans children makes sense or…healthcare for illegals makes sense.”—Jack Armstrong, 34:05

4. NYC Protests & ISIS-Inspired Violence

• [18:41] Focus on the attack outside NY Mayor Zoran Mamdani’s house:
  • Coverage critiques media for failing to clarify that violence was initiated by pro-ISIS sympathizers, not the “anti-Muslim” protest itself.
  • “It was the ISIS-inspired crowd that showed up and said, you aren’t going to protest Islam in my town and had a bomb.”—Jack Armstrong, 22:18
• The hosts contrast the media’s hypothetical treatment if the violence had come from the right: “Can you imagine leaving out the ideology of Klan members if they are the ones chucking bombs? That's what Mumdani did. Yikes.”—Joe Getty, 24:06
• [26:17] Analysis of coalition-building: Discussion of how left-wing groups (e.g., “Armed Queers of Salt Lake City”) design their rhetoric to maintain unified opposition to Western civilization, glossing over contradictions in values (“There’s only one side to support, the side seeking freedom from colonial force. And we will not be made to believe that our side is the enemy.”—Joe Getty, 28:34).

5. Political Polls and Party Favorability

• [29:00] Discussion of an NBC poll showing that the Democratic Party is more unpopular than ICE, Trump, and the Republican Party—its net negative favorability exceeded only by Iran.
  • “The Democratic Party is more unpopular than ICE nationally. Isn’t that amazing?”—Jack Armstrong, 32:05

6. Lighter, Memorable Moments & Signature Humor

• [02:11] Opening with an odd etiquette joke: “An etiquette expert is saying that the proper way to eat cereal is with a spoon in one hand and a fork in the other. The fork is to attack anyone that comes for me.”—Jack Armstrong.
• [14:44] Bit on New York progressives screaming as protest:
  • “And now I invite you to scream.” / “Scream!”
• [38:24] Jack rationalizes eating cake with his child:
  • “There is something very wrong about sitting there on one of my kids’ few birthdays…I love cake.”—Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• On Gen Z’s Workplace Deficits:
  • “These 20-somethings have missed opportunities to develop the skills needed…” —Joe Getty, 07:34
• On AI’s Impact on Work:
  • “You know, you have job fulfillment privilege.” —Jack Armstrong, 17:21
• On Party Favorability Polls:
  • “The Democratic Party is more unpopular than ICE nationally. Isn’t that amazing? … Only Iran has a lower rating than that.” —Jack Armstrong, 32:05–32:54
• On Media Coverage of Violence:
  • “That is an oversight. That is an omission. So egregious, it ought to make everybody stop and say, oh, I see what’s going on here.” —Joe Getty, 24:06

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:25–04:12] Iran stories: soccer team asylum and UK PM struggles
• [05:08–13:30] Gen Z in the workplace, real-world experience vs. digital upbringing
• [13:45–16:47] Listener letter: The real purpose of work & the AI revolution
• [18:41–29:00] NYC protests, Mamdani, ISIS violence, and media framing
• [29:00–34:10] NBC poll: Party favorability and shifting American politics
• [38:24] Lighter segment: Cake, birthday rituals, and family time
• [36:54–37:08] International: U.S. & Israel strategy on Iranian oil and the conflict

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Tone and Style

The episode maintains Armstrong & Getty’s signature mix of sarcasm, pointed critique, and playful banter, especially when dealing with political correctness, generational divides, and the absurdities of modern life. Their analysis is candid, conversational, and often peppered with wit and asides, making even serious topics approachable and engaging.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode offers a wide-ranging exploration of why young people may struggle at work, the complexities of international and domestic politics, and America’s shifting attitudes towards its main parties. The hosts’ signature banter and memorable quotes make it both informative and entertaining, even as they address cultural anxieties—from AI to workplace disenchantment to the paradoxes of progressive activism.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

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[News Reporter]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

An etiquette expert is saying that the proper way to eat cereal is with a spoon in one hand and a fork in the other. The fork is to attack anyone that comes for me.

[Joe Getty]

Lucky Charms.

[Jack Armstrong]

What?

[Joe Getty]

That's a funny, odd joke. Both funny haha and funny strange.

[Jack Armstrong]

I like the punchline, but I don't understand the setup.

[Joe Getty]

So why?

[Jack Armstrong]

Why would you eat your cereal with a knife and a what?

[Joe Getty]

I can't imagine.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got a trio of Iranian stories. One Turan just announced that they have plenty of more surprises to come. I don't think you do. I really don't.

[Joe Getty]

Variety show or a war?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't think you do.

[Joe Getty]

I think you would have plenty more surprises to come. Don't go away. We'll be right back.

[Jack Armstrong]

We decided to wait until everyone's dead and we're really destroyed and we have no air defense before we unleash our secret surprise. Because that makes perfect Sense that you would do that. Another one, Trump has said, are you following the story with the Iranian national women's soccer team? You know that story? So they apparently signaled in a picture, please help us or something. I didn't quite understand some sort of hand signal in the picture. Rescue us. And Trump has said he has spoken to the Australian Prime Minister about giving the Iranian national women's soccer team asylum. I guess they're in the country and like don't ship them back to Iran.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I just saw that headline. Hadn't been following it because they had

[Jack Armstrong]

spoken out against the regime, which is a scary thing to do.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, for real, they can't go back.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, no, absolutely. Absolutely not. And then the other Iranian story, Fox is reporting that British Prime Minister Keir Starmer is facing weak and uncooperative labels from both sides of the pond as the US UK alliance is in tatters. One of the closest relationships on planet Earth since the end of World War II that has helped keep the world order is in tatters over this. He's gonna go soon. He's barely got a double digit approval rating in his own country over things that hadn't, you know, started before this war even started. Then he's uncooperative.

[Joe Getty]

That weak act. Mark Carney, is it Mark up in Canada not thinking of the Journal? That's.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, Carney, he, he supported the strikes and now he's condemning them. Oh, I didn't see that so bad.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I was watching, I was listening to NPR today and they were talking about the global order and everything like that. And, and they were right in that it is less set now than it has been in a very, very long time, all that sort of thing. But I feel like every time the United States flexed its muscles to try to restore global order or police the world, that crowd would attack it, you know, for belligerence and genomy or whatever the hell. And where do you get off telling other countries how to live? But if you don't do that, then the world order falls apart. It's also our fault. It's our fault no matter what. That's one of the problems with being the big dog. No matter what happens, it's your fault.

[Joe Getty]

I just came across the story of another progressive prosecutor who refuses to prosecute gun crimes or gun enhancements. Aren't the progressives the left constantly calling for more stricter gun laws? And yet they won't enforce it? Similar. Anyway, so this is what was meant to be just a tease to what we're talking about later is taking a chunk of the segment, but I think we still have time for this. It's funny that I should come across this because I had a really interesting conversation about it with some business people yesterday. It's a piece by a psychologist or a professor of psychology who specializes in workplace psychology, productive psychology, that sort of thing. And she writes, well, the headline is I should tell you, a new lost generation. Why Gen Z is unprepared for the workplace. Young employees often don't have the skills they need to navigate organizations. Leaders should first understand the problem and then figure out, figure out how to fill the gaps.

[Jack Armstrong]

Too much porn. And when they're not watching porn, they're playing video games.

[Joe Getty]

This is not helping. This is just trying to understand it from the perspective of an employer because you got to preserve productivity, efficiency, that sort of thing. And you got all these weird kids coming in. You got to figure out how to get them to work. Anyway, I love this angle she starts with because I hadn't, I had underestimated one aspect of human psychology. She says the workplace can be a tricky place to navigate almost everything we do at work. Identifying the experts, managing tough feedback from a boss, figuring out how to work in teams made up of different personalities comes down to our ability to manage relationships. And to do so we need savvy social skills. Most employees acquire those skills over time by learning from their non work relationships, watching how colleagues behave in the office, and by seeing what happens when they stumble in their own workplace interactions. You live and learn, but the newest workplace generation, Gen Z is unlike anything we've seen through a combination of having fewer real world relationships, experiences spending their education years in remote environments, and learning to communicate largely through asynchronous methods like, you know, texting or messaging or whatever. You're not message reply, message reply, message reply in real time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I don't know that you would. Your emotional intelligence would improve through texting. Probably not.

[Joe Getty]

These 20 somethings have missed opportunities to develop the skills needed to navigate the complex world of work. The result is the that many are woefully unprepared for surviving, let alone thriving in their jobs. And then she spells out and because we've got a fairly tight team here, I hadn't fully realized this, but it makes so much sense. We can already see what this means for both employees and the organizations that hire them. For one thing, young employees are struggling to fit into these organizations. There is a lot of turnover because new hires who don't acclimate don't last. What's more whether they're pushed out or leave willingly, younger employees often go without a go, without a clear sense of what went wrong.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, wow.

[Joe Getty]

So they'll never get better. So they couldn't interpret the dynamics of the workplace. So they sure as hell can't interpret why it didn't work. And those who do stay often find the experience unfulfilling and frustrating while their bosses are at a loss, wondering why the new workers just don't get it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, and if something is just not working out, so you get rid of somebody because it's, you know, just not working out, it's hard to nail down, you know, explain to a person exactly why it didn't work out. Look, you just, you weird people out or nobody understands you or it's just not working out, whatever. And so it'd be hard to grow from that.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Right, Indeed. So this gal gets into a couple of factors and, and I think she may overestimate them a little bit and she completely leaves out the big one. But a couple of things. First of all, the, the percentage of Gen Z that reaches adulthood having had even one romantic relationship, it's declined from 75% pretty consistently for previous generations to 56%. So rounding it's a 20% drop. And she points out, and this made me think back to my previous relationships. These experiences matter in a lot of ways. Early relationships teach us basic social, social competencies, how to express emotions, how to cooperate, how to forgive, how and when to compete, all skills we use at work and as adults. There's a direct link between the ability to communicate well with a romantic partner and the ability to do the same with a co worker or boss, which is interesting. Then she goes into young people. That's the point. On weird online education experiences and how different that is from previous generations. I think we can all understand that. You know, the one thing she leaves out that I'm very, very surprised by and I had a long, interesting conversation as I mentioned with some business leaders about this yesterday, the incredibly rich learning experience that is free range childhood. And we were talking about specifically when we'd be turned loose in the morning after we did, you know, our chores or whatever we had to do, especially on, you know, weekends and summer days or whatever. And we would not go home until the dinner bell rang or until the street lights went on or whatever was your cue, you had to go home again. And your parents might ask you a little bit where you were, but I mean, you certainly didn't have to give an hour by hour Accounting.

[Jack Armstrong]

No.

[Joe Getty]

And we were agreeing that one of the richest experiences we had had in our entire lives was playing specifically. And this is what has been lost in the modern era. This is not the first time we've talked about it, but I think it is. It is so massively important. Everybody ought to be familiar with this concept. You invent a game with one or more friends. Maybe it's a bunch of you, maybe it's. You have variations of the rules of baseball, for instance, because you've got a few people and you're playing in a square backyard or whatever, you invent a game, you invent the rules. You adjudicate all the disputes yourselves. You learn about people who will work with you, those who won't work with you. You learn about what strategy works for convincing people you have a good idea and which ones fail. If you had 15 college educations, you could not learn as much as you learned on your summer days doing that. And we're denying kids the opportunity to do that. It is neglect or. Or, well, I guess, yes, neglect. It's like you're not feeding them almost as terribly as if you did not feed them food, in my opinion. And kids are missing that when they get to the workplace.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think food is worse. But I see your point.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, obviously, if somebody starves to

[Jack Armstrong]

death, play that card for about three days.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. But when you look at the modern workplace, okay, we've got to accomplish something together, he and I, she and I disagree, but I value them. I've got to do it in a diplomatic way. I don't feel real strongly about this, but I do feel very strongly about that. And by the way, I've negotiated that process 150 times by the time I'm 16 compared to the constantly supervised veal calf kids.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, here's the good news, finally. AI is going to wipe out all the jobs, so nobody will ever have to do that.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that reminds me. Got a great email and I was hoping to get to it at some point. Don't have time for it now, but maybe next segment. I don't know. We'll talk about it from Ryan in Sacramento. AI is going to take all the jobs. I wish. Why don't I pay this off after the. The break?

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. I love that topic.

[Joe Getty]

So, yeah, yeah, work. I mean, you talk about a universal. Yeah. Until the warm embrace of collectivism takes over.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, we got to talk about Mamdani and what he said about his wife and then that attack outside of his residence over the weekend.

[Joe Getty]

He's an Islamianist.

[Jack Armstrong]

Was it ISIS inspired this attack? That's what they're saying now. Wow, that'd be a pretty big deal. Anywho, stick around, Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

you do if you're a progressive women's organization in New York City on National Women's Day or International Women's Day, and you want to celebrate it by letting out all your outrage at Trump in the modern world, you do this.

[Jack Armstrong]

And now I invite you to scream.

[Joe Getty]

Scream.

[News Reporter]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Why are the birth rates falling? I think I know. All right. God, that's more than enough.

[Jack Armstrong]

Are people that do therapeutic screams or that sort of thing? And then there are people that like have jobs and raise kids. Right? There's very little overlap. Very little overlap.

[Joe Getty]

It's worth mentioning her dog is there and just freaking out. Idiots. Got this note from Ryan in Sacramento. We were talking about AI as we do a lot, and how it's going to eliminate all the jobs, as Jack mentioned. And we have gone on and on about how if you deny people purpose and a reason to get up in the morning, they will actually be miserable and become drunks and drug addicts and not become happy poets or whatever. Who's going to read your poetry? Everybody's writing poetry anyway. Let's see. So Ryan writes. Joe has joked that he's afraid he'll be the last human to die right before humanity unlocks the key to immortality. That's true, Ryan. I haven't said that for a long time, but yeah, that's my greatest fear. Thanks for reminding me. My fear is that I will be the last human or generation of humans obligated to work for a living. You both have expressed the need for purpose we all seem to share, and I agree on that point. Why must that purpose be tied to a meaningless job? I work in a blue collar environment of about 1500 employees, and there's something we all want to be anywhere else. I don't know about their motivations, but for myself, the obligation to show up and punch the clock for 8, 10, or 12 hours a day is what prevents my pursuit of unprofitable fulfillments. You know, hobbies. For psychopaths that would be like to show up somewhere and do meaningless lab. Oh. For psychopaths that would like to show up somewhere and do meaningless labor for hours and days on end. I wouldn't stand in their way to the suggestion of do something else. There's not a job on this earth that I want to be obligated to devote the majority of my time and life to. I'd be shocked if that was a minority opinion.

[Jack Armstrong]

Big.

[Joe Getty]

However, for all the boasting that AI will provide the pathway to universal high income, I don't really believe in it. Private businesses may become enriched by the use of AI. And Jack, you've made this point many times, but they aren't going to become absurdly altruistic. The idea of governments confiscating, distributing wealth is both repugnant and historically catastrophic. I guess I'll keep clocking in.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, they always skip that part, but

[Joe Getty]

krts keep returning those sausages. Thank you, Ryan.

[Jack Armstrong]

To the whole we need a job to have a sense of purpose thing that we talk about. I have heard that described as, you know, you have job fulfillment privilege.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. A lot of people.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I've worked jobs like this. I've worked jobs that you lay there on a Sunday night and think, I don't know if I can do this another week because it is not only not fulfilling, it's just awful. There's nothing you like about it. The only thing you're getting out of it is a paycheck and maybe insurance. The only thing, everything else about it, you hate it. So the idea that, oh, no, AI is going to take that away from me and I won't have a purpose anymore. Yeah, shut up. All right.

[Joe Getty]

When I was standing there in an aisle of a store, because if I was caught sitting, I'd be fired. Waiting for a customer, any customer, to need anything. Yeah, that was not super fulfilling.

[Jack Armstrong]

And the idea of that going away going to have a negative effect on your life.

[Joe Getty]

Shut up. Oh, no, right. Yeah. It's a good point, Ryan. Thank you for. You know, I try really hard to think about stuff like that as we're doing the show and getting ready for the show. All right. In what ways am I an outlier and not not have those blind spots? But that's.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know what?

[Joe Getty]

That was a bit of a spanking, Ryan, and well administered.

[Jack Armstrong]

So CBS at least is reporting they are investigating that incident outside of Mayor Mamdani's house as an ISIS inspired attack.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I think. Yeah, I'VE seen that more than one place.

[Jack Armstrong]

It would be a pretty big deal if there was an anti Muslim demonstration. Completely peaceful and ISIS said we ain't having that and sent somebody. Holy crap.

[Joe Getty]

Mumdani's an Islamist as well as a communist. He's an Islamist and it's I'm sure I have a good idea where his sympathies lie, particularly by some of his statements.

[Jack Armstrong]

Got a lot more on that and other stuff on the way. If you missed a segment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand Armstrong and Getty

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[News Reporter]

The NYPD says this device, about the size of a football, wrapped in black tape with nuts, bolts and screws along with the fuse, was indeed an improvised explosive device hurled at New York City Mayor Zoram Mandani's residence. The incident unfolding outside Gracie Mansion Saturday during dueling protests, including one led by far right anti immigration figure Jake Lang and a larger group of counter protesters. And one of those suspects, Police say an 18 year old lit and threw one of those devices toward a police barrier. Two suspects, both from Pennsylvania, arrested at the scene. They told investigators they watch ISIS videos and confronted Jake Lang's protests in defense

[Jack Armstrong]

of Muslim I feel like that report and a lot of them really did not do a Good job of making it clear who was violent and who was not. A lot of the reports over the weekend were anti Muslim protests. Sparks violence. Yeah. Sparked violence by the people that showed up on the side of the Muslim extremists and threw a bomb. Not the anti Muslim crowd, which, you know, I don't agree. I wouldn't go to an anti Muslim protest probably either, but far right anti Muslim protests. Then Obama started not making it clear in that report who exactly threw the bomb. It was the ISIS inspired crowd that showed up and said, you aren't going to protest Islam in my town and had a bomb.

[Joe Getty]

Well, right. The New York Post editorial board. Actually, I know nothing about this Jake Lang guy whose tiny band of misfits were quote unquote, demonstrating against Muslims.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, he's a January 6th guy who got pardoned by Trump.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, okay. All right. Well, anyway, the harshness with which the New York Post editorial board views him, I will take their word for it. But even that being said, the irony of guy comes out and says, you know, Islam is a religion of violence and oppression and somebody throws firebombs at him for it is a little irony.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, as he was being arrested, he was yelling to media around it and the cops notice who got violent. It wasn't us. Who got violent, it wasn't us. Which I thought was a pretty decent point.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yelling Allah Akbar, likely inspired by isis.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, no kidding. So New York Post writes. Oh, they're actually. What they're concerned about is Zoran Mamdani came out and condemned violence at a protest. And the Post says Mumdani can't just condemn violence at a protest. Now that the key facts are out about Saturday's chaos near Gracie Mans mayor's residence, he needs to call out where the threats of violence come from and denounce them. Well, I'll just finish. We know that those were genuine explosive devices hurled by ISIS loving radicals. People seduced by evil that exists within Gotham's own Muslim community. And the mayor should name the poison plaguing his co religionists and the madness among his democratic socialist allies that mourns the killing of a monster like Ali Khamenei. We can get into that in a little bit if we want, but yeah. For instance, it had gone the other

[Jack Armstrong]

way

[Joe Getty]

that there was some up with Islam gathering encounter. Demonstrators showed up and hurled bombs at the Muslims. Do you think their ideology would be Left out by Mr. Mumdani when he was condemning it? Are you kidding me? That is an oversight. That is an omission. So Egregious. It ought to make everybody stop and say, oh, I see what's going on here. Can you imagine leaving out the ideology of Klan members if they are the ones chucking bombs? That's what Mumdani did. Yikes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Then they make the point. What can truly make a difference is calling out the people who seem to be on your side but aren't. The ones who claim that Islamic values support attacks on innocence, who deny the mass rapes and other crimes of supposed freedom fighters, who pretend that the anti imperialist cause requires sympathy for terror promoting tyrants, and then they say, mum, Donnie ought to come out in favor of anti Semitism, protect the rights of worship of all New Yorkers, side with the vast sane center in New York City, Mr. Mayor, and make it plain you recognize toxic hate on every extreme.

[Jack Armstrong]

So one of the teen bomb chuckers put on the ground by the cops and hauled off gave a hand gesture that some say is a ISIS hand gesture. I don't know. He had one finger up in the air. It could be all kinds of different things because, I mean, just a lot of times the other side of this, when they've said, you know, white supremacist hand gesture, it's just like, what, There are gang signs.

[Joe Getty]

That's our thing. But sometimes a wave is not a Nazi salute, it's a wave. Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Or sometimes just any flourish of the hand is. Is not a particular. You catch it at the right moment from the right angle. Two fingers up and one down is clearly in league with the Confederacy or something.

[Joe Getty]

Damn Rabs.

[Jack Armstrong]

But. So maybe, maybe it was an ISIS hand sign, but not a surprising story. I've got my favorite poll ever that's come out that we should get to.

[Joe Getty]

Let me finish this off. Just by pointing out the Democratic Socialists of America have indeed come out against the killing of the Ayatollah and how it's an outrage this is going to end with a mass movement, but puts an end to the war machine, Blah, blah, blah. We have to create real cost for the warmongers, for. For killing Islamic extremists. And. And maybe we'll get into this a little more tomorrow. But I was reminded of this. I came across this. This is how it works. The, you know, the eternal omnicause, where if you're a, you know, bisexual, transgender, amputee, Hispanic, you've got to be in favor of militant Eskimo, whatever. Everybody's got to be on the same side always to overthrow Western civilization, right? Well, this is. This is somebody who's involved in a different story. The person who helped form the Armed Queers of Salt Lake City. What was the headline involved here? Oh, it doesn't matter. It'd take too long to reset. But anyway, Armed Queer Salt Lake City joins people all over the world in expressing our solidarity with Palestinian people as they struggle for liberation against the many decades of occupation, violence, apartheid, blah blah, blah. We must be in full support of the right of resistance and be critical of any argument insisting the Palestinian struggle is equally as violent as Israel. Okay, here's where it gets into the interesting part. We must also be critical of any pink washing tactics that co opt the struggles of gender oppressed people in order to further advance anti anti Palestinian efforts and recognize that the colonial history and present against Palestine has been responsible for some of the most barbaric forms of violence against women and queer people. There's only one side to support, the side seeking freedom from colonial force. And we will not be made to believe that our side is the enemy. I will decode that for you. People are pointing out that the Palestinians and the mullahs and all those people hang gay people in public, they throw them off buildings, they will rape a woman to death for being a lesbian, blah, blah, blah. Don't listen to those arguments. There's only one side, the anti colonial side. They're trying to co op the suffering, blah blah and turn us against each other. Don't let them do that. And the loyal Marxists say, oh, that's a clever tactic by the colonial forces. I'm not falling for that. They throw gays off building stuff and that's how they reconcile queers for Palestine. I'd never seen it spelled out like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we've got quite a poll where they've got the net favorability ratings of some unpopular things. The Democrats finish below Ice, below Trump, below everybody on the list but Iran. Wow, it's an NBC poll. So it's not like it's, you know, I don't know, right wingy, right winger. It's NBC. We'll get to that next segment. This is breaking football news. Though Travis Kelsey is going to sign a one year contract with the Kansas City Chiefs. He'll be back for his 14th year. So the news earlier today was he's coming back for another year. Might not be the Chiefs. Clearly his agent put that out there as they were in the final throws of their dealers. Maybe he won't play for the Kansas City Chiefs. We have lots of options out there. And the Chiefs thought he makes us at least that much. More money being on the team. So. Sure. The mustachioed Taylor Swift fiance.

[Joe Getty]

I'll bet.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll bet he's worth a lot. I'm sure they've got a kind of a number on that. But, you know, eight home games or nine or 10, depending on preseason or postseason. And a good chunk of them. Taylor Swift's there and all the attention that that gets you and everything like that. But there's a lot of money in that.

[Joe Getty]

Well, they get married at halftime.

[Jack Armstrong]

Will he get married at halftime?

[Joe Getty]

No, no, he will not. That would be. Make a mockery of the NFL. Michael, what about the sanctity of the game

[Jack Armstrong]

getting married? One of the endless. Got to take a look at that call and see if it stands get married during that. There's plenty of time. He's mustachioed now. By the way, in case you're wondering, this poll that wasn't.

[Joe Getty]

Thank you. This poll keep me up to date.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is not good news for the Democratic Party. Among other things on the way. Stay here.

[News Reporter]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Something that you love. That's not family or friends.

[Jack Armstrong]

I love. And just say this because it's on my mind. The trans children who showed up yesterday at the state Capitol to advocate for their humanity. They shouldn't have to, but it was an inspiration to watch. There you go. So that's that weirdo minister Democratic dude down in Texas. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

James Talarico. No one by name asks name something

[Jack Armstrong]

you love over family and friends. The trans children that showed up to my event. All right.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God. Kids that have been brow beaten and convinced that they're trans. Oh, my. This might be part of why the

[Jack Armstrong]

Democratic Party has a lower net favorability rating than Republicans. Trump, ICE, or really anything but Iran currently. This is an NBC poll, so they do the overall net rating. That's where you take your positive rating minus your negative rating and come up with the number. For instance, on Trump, he's got a minus 12. He's 53 negative, 41 positive for a minus 12.

[Joe Getty]

Not great.

[Jack Armstrong]

The rebel Republican Party's minus 14 ICE, which has been beaten up by the media just endlessly, is pretty low with a minus 18, but not as bad as the Democratic party. Democrats had 30% positive or somewhat positive, 52% negative or somewhat negative for a minus 22 more. The Democratic Party is more unpopular than ICE nationally. Isn't that amazing? I mean, that's really quite amazing. You wouldn't think that'd be possible. By the way, only Iran has a lower rating than that. Iran is at minus 53, something like

[Joe Getty]

that, it's gonna be tough to bounce back from.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

They got some work to do.

[Jack Armstrong]

8% positive, 61% negative. They do have some work to do, PR wise to try to get back into the plus column, make that a priority. Why do you think the Democratic Party is rated so low in a country that's evenly split?

[Joe Getty]

There are a lot of reasons to dislike them. The ideological.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, our elections are so close. You would think it would be Republicans and Democrats would be closer together, but yeah, I think.

[Joe Getty]

Well, there's definitely the hold your nose and vote for dot, dot, dot factor for both parties. Sure. I think for Democrats it's, it's much more significant than for Republicans because for Republicans it's hold your nose and vote. Maybe for Trump, though, you don't like his manner and blah. We've all gone over this a million times with the Democratic Party. It's like, hold your nose and vote. In spite of the fact that they're advocating policies you find loathsome. But you don't like Republicans either.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's hard to hold your nose and vote for a crowd that pretends that operations for trans children makes sense or. Or health for taxpayer health care for illegals makes sense.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Come on.

[Joe Getty]

Oh.

[Jack Armstrong]

Looking at a little clip of. They're doing a feature on Lindsey Vaughn and her effort to be able to walk again at some point in her life.

[Joe Getty]

Lord, oh, Lord.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was a miscalculation.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah. And it seemed like a terrible idea too, skiing on the busted acl.

[Jack Armstrong]

But she looks like watching her work out, she might have that Michael Phelps problem, the famous swimmer. They just have been working out 10 hours a day their whole life. They don't really know how to not do that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

What do you do every day if you're not in the gym? Working out 10 hours a day.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. A lot of professional athletes, especially the super elite ones, it's incredibly dislocating. It's amazing when they stop doing what they do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Got a couple of examples that just happened to randomly come across recently. They asked Derek Jeter, famous New York Yankee, they had something at the end of the season, said, you miss baseball? He said, no, not really. Not at all. As soon as it's over, I was ready to be done. You know, some people are like that. It's like, yeah, I did it for a while and that was fun, but I'm ready to do something else now.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Some people just can't imagine their lives without it. I don't know. Depends on how you're built. I guess. Yeah. I'm lucky.

[Joe Getty]

I don't have that problem.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Huh.

[Jack Armstrong]

So. So everybody in the world is going to be watching the stock market and particularly the oil market over the next 24 hours or so, and Trump, and with the help of Lindsey Graham, warning Israel, hey, don't be blowing up their refineries. That's not going to help get the people on our side. And Trump is sending Jared Kushner and Witkoff to meet with Bibi Netanyahu tomorrow, I assume with that message louder than anything else. Don't be attacking their water facilities or their oil facilities. We don't want to be driving the regular person, the regular arena away from us. So we'll see where that goes.

[Joe Getty]

I thought that message from Lindsey Graham that you read earlier was really on point. It was really well crafted. It was like, hey, that's going to be necessary to bring peace and prosperity to the newer on when it happens. So let's not go overboard and the whole, you know, they need oil to power their missiles. Yeah. I tell you what, why don't we crush all their missiles and launchers and the guys who launch them and leave the oil alone for now? So it's, it's good to get on the same page. 100%.

[Jack Armstrong]

BB might not be on that page. He might, might think, this is my one chance in my life and I'm an old man and I've been fighting these people since I was a kid. I'm going to take them all out this region.

[Joe Getty]

Total ruin.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. With some concern that Trump at any day could decide, you know, this is gas prices. I'm looking at the polls. People aren't digging this. We're done. Bibi might be thinking that he could pull the plug at any moment. I'm going to take this chance while I've got it. I might have days left of this.

[Joe Getty]

He saw what happened to the opposition in Venezuela when Trump ended the fight, said, yeah, I've made a deal with the old dictators. We're good now. And the opposition's like, wait a minute, wait a minute. Right now, they're on the sideline.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And Israel won't really be in a position to continue this war if we decide we're done politically.

[Joe Getty]

Be a different kettle of fish for him. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Final thoughts with Armstrong and G. You'll get the facts. They're sharp and steady. Tune it tomorrow. Don't you forget it. For more from Armstrong and Daddy. I really like that. Whoever made that, I think that's fantastic.

[Joe Getty]

Very musical.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's your host for Final Thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

I've never thought of myself as steady. Anyway, let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap things up for the day. There he is, our technical director, pressing the buttons. Michelangelo, what's your final thought? Michael? Yeah, Jack. You talked about falling on a scooter. I think about 20 years ago, I gave up the skateboard and the scooters just for that reason.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I gotta bring up. I was gonna talk a little bit about that during the One More Thing podcast.

[Joe Getty]

Something to look forward to. Download it wherever you get podcasts. Katie Green, our esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie, mine's along that same story. If anybody got that on video, please send it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not cheering your pain, but please send it. Mortifyingly embarrassing.

[Joe Getty]

Jack, final thought for us.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, I did have a piece of birthday cake with my son on his birthday. I'll tell you what, there is something very wrong about sitting there on one of my kids few birthdays that I got left, left with them in my house and staring at them while they eat cake and not doing the thing that was. That's just not right. That's not right.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, you sat down to break bread with them and said, I don't like bread. No, you can't. No, no, no, you're breaking cake, as it were. I love cake. My final thought is I love. I never eat it, but I love cake.

[Jack Armstrong]

No one should ever eat cake.

[Joe Getty]

It is delicious. People ask, do you like cake better or pie? I say, yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I. I prefer pie, but I will eat cake. I don't like the frosting though, too. Too much. Armstrong and Yeti wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Joe Getty]

I don't appreciate your anti cake hate. All right, let's be. Let's wrap up the.

[Jack Armstrong]

What?

[Joe Getty]

So many people to thank, so little time. Go to armstrong yeti.com, download the podcast, drop us a note [e-mail] pick up some AEG swag. How about the F. Yollican party? If you're tired of both. Both the major parties. It's a fine T shirt. It's got an eagle on it.

[Jack Armstrong]

We'll see you tomorrow. God bless America.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. And maybe they should. It's about the message, not the corpse per se. But anyway, here's corpsey June.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a rough term.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sorry, the dearly departed. That's probably a more delicate terminal.

[Jack Armstrong]

And you say, where's the corpse? I want to go check out the corpse.

[Joe Getty]

No, I don't. And I take your criticism in a manly fashion. Thank you. Get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty. Underman. Armstrong and Gettysburg.