Well, Bless His Soul

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "Well, Bless His Soul"

Date: July 13, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

Episode Overview

In this episode, Armstrong & Getty return after Joe’s Alaskan adventure and quickly dive into the biggest news: the sudden death of Senator Lindsey Graham. The show explores the mystery, speculation, and implications of Graham’s passing, covering everything from wild animal encounters in the wilderness to sharp, insightful commentary on US foreign policy and political dynamics. They also unpack headlines on the escalating Iran conflict, reactions to soccer’s surging popularity, and their trademark audience banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Joe Getty’s Return and Wilderness Anecdotes

• [03:03–07:01] Joe recounts surviving bear, moose, and (jokingly) orca encounters in Alaska, and they riff on a viral video of a man being flipped by a bison.
  • "As you're flipping around in the air, you're thinking, oh, boy, I hope I don't, like, land on my head. Oh, not good." — Joe Getty [04:17]
• The discussion segues into National Park safety guidelines and the folly of getting too close to wild animals, poking fun at generational attitudes toward safety.
  • "You worship guidelines from bureaucrats!" — Jack Armstrong [05:31]
  • "Occasionally you get flipped." — Joe Getty [05:14]

2. Lindsey Graham’s Sudden Death: Facts & Speculation

• [07:06–14:30] The heart of the show revolves around Lindsey Graham’s passing:
  • Origins of the “bless his soul” title: Graham's impact, and how sudden and suspicious the circumstances appeared.
  • Speculation on Russian involvement is dismissed but not outright laughed off, given Graham's vocal stance against Putin.
    • "There's documented evidence of Putin killing lots of people… is it tinfoil hat to wonder if Putin did it? Not at all." — Jack Armstrong [08:06]
  • Critique of public statements like "unexpected brief illness," which fans conspiracy theories.
    • "Why didn’t you put out 'he had a massive heart attack'? … That’s just setting up the world for wondering." — Jack Armstrong [08:35]
  • Commentary on how quickly conspiracies spawn on social media after major events.
    • "You gotta get your grift out there, your framework out there. Such a profitable business." — Joe Getty [09:01]
  • Examination of Graham’s legacy: fierce advocacy for intervention in Ukraine and Iran, his influence with the President, and what his absence means geopolitically.
  • They defend Graham as pragmatic, not a hypocrite, in his dealings with Trump.
    • "He kept his eyes on the policies he cared about … We've got to do what's right for America." — Joe Getty [11:17]

3. Graham’s Character and Approach to Politics

• [12:23–13:27]
  • Praise of Graham’s ability to work with political opponents and lack of grudges.
    • "He just didn’t hold grudges. He couldn’t remember who he was supposed to be mad at." — Quoting Tim Scott via Joe Getty [12:32]
    • "I ran into him a week later and he was completely friendly and welcoming… he just didn't hold grudges." — Joe Getty [12:55]
  • Noted as one of few genuinely funny politicians, per Al Franken.
    • "Who in government is funny? Nobody, except Lindsey Graham. Like, truly hilarious." — Al Franken quoted by Jack Armstrong [14:11]

4. Geopolitics: Iran, the Strait of Hormuz, and US Posture

• [17:05–28:30]
  • Coverage of military escalation in the Persian Gulf, including conflicting US and Iranian statements about control of the Strait of Hormuz.
    • "Centcom said today Iran does not control the Strait of Hormuz. Iran said … it’s our territory." — Jack Armstrong [17:05]
  • Analysis of Iran’s increasingly aggressive strategy—using the Strait as a “new nuclear weapon”—and the leadership vacuum in Tehran post-assassinations.
    • "They wanted more than the deal. If I was advising them, I’d say you won. Take the win." — Jack Armstrong [25:12]
    • "They're still trying to figure out how to run the place and who's in charge." — Joe Getty quoting John Bolton [25:09]
  • Wall Street Journal and NYT both call for US military action to reopen the Strait, signaling bipartisan alarm at the situation.
  • Warning against US isolationism; defense of American engagement overseas.
    • "I'm back again to tell you that's dumb. It's so dumb. ... Isolationism is stupid." — Joe Getty [29:02]

5. Political Ramifications & Senate Succession

• [20:23–21:12]
  • McConnell’s appearance post-illness, Senate succession discussions, and speculation about who will fill Graham’s influential role.
  • Nancy Mace and a 78-year-old former Congressman floated as possible replacements for Graham; hosts not enthused about aging politicians taking over.

6. Other Notable News and Banter

• [30:01–36:37]
  • Conversation shifts to several secondary stories, including:
    • Rape allegations against Platner and the effect on Susan Collins’ Senate prospects.
    • Rise of left-wing “wackadoodles,” with nods to guests and friends in anti-communist circles (Tim Sandifer, James Lindsay).
  • Lighter topics: IMAX showing "The Odyssey," media debates about whether it’s "woke," sports analogies, mocking soccer’s typical predictability, and the growth of soccer’s US popularity.
    • "Soccer has really grown on me. I didn’t think it was possible. I’ve been mocking soccer my entire life." — Jack Armstrong [34:27]
  • Viral “most selfish play in soccer history” discussed with the Norwegian star Erling Haaland.
    • "I hope he feels bad about himself. Wanted to be the star, I guess." — Jack Armstrong [36:08]

7. Mailbag & Listener Reflections

• [39:00–44:58]
  • Joe returns to reading listener emails, sparking reflections on aging, kindness from strangers, and the positive/negative outlooks of old age.
    • "I've reached that age. People gather around to help me." — Jack Armstrong [42:45]
  • Positive predictions about longevity and the changing mood of older generations.
    • "Maybe the advancements in health care are coming … there will be way more crusty old Fs. Result, conservatism will reign." — Listener Greg, read by Joe Getty [43:12]
  • The importance of "disillusionment"—choosing realism over optimism for its own sake.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Buffalo Safety

  • "Occasionally you get flipped." — Joe Getty [05:14]
  • "You worship guidelines from bureaucrats!" — Jack Armstrong [05:31]

• Lindsey Graham: Sudden Passing and Speculation

  • "There's documented evidence of Putin killing lots of people… is it tinfoil hat to wonder if Putin did it? Not at all." — Jack Armstrong [08:06]
  • "The analysis being Lindsey Graham, who initially criticized Trump harshly, later aligned with him, showing he's a hypocrite... that's some good stupid analysis from evil people." — Joe Getty [11:17]

• On Graham’s Character

  • "He just didn’t hold grudges. ... He was just a sweet human being in that way." — Tim Scott, paraphrased by Joe Getty [12:32]

• On Iran War

  • "Centcom said today Iran does not control the Strait of Hormuz. Iran said…it’s our territory." — Jack Armstrong [17:05]
  • "They're still trying to figure out how to run the place and who's in charge." — Joe Getty [25:09]
  • "I'm back again to tell you that's dumb. ... Isolationism is stupid." — Joe Getty [29:02]

• On the Mailbag & Aging

  • "I've reached that age. People gather around to help me." — Jack Armstrong [42:45]
  • "Be a realist. Understand how the world works and find your happiness in reality, not in fantasies." — Joe Getty [44:20]

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Important Timestamps

• 03:03–07:01: Joe's Alaska stories and bison safety
• 07:06–14:30: Lindsey Graham’s death, conspiracy theories, and legacy
• 17:05–28:30: Iran conflict, Strait of Hormuz, and US military posture
• 29:02: Joe’s passionate rejection of isolationism
• 34:27–36:37: Soccer's growing appeal and sports banter
• 39:00–44:58: Listener mailbag: reflections on aging, kindness, and optimism

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Episode Tone

Witty, irreverent, deeply skeptical yet sincerely reflective when it comes to politics, international news, and the passing of a public figure. The hosts retain their signature balance of humor, candor, and insightful commentary—moving seamlessly between banter and serious analysis.

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Summary

This episode offers a quintessential Armstrong & Getty experience: a timely, in-depth dissection of a major national political event (Lindsey Graham’s death), skeptical yet nuanced evaluations of foreign policy and media spin, and a healthy dose of personal stories and audience interaction. Their analysis of Graham’s political complexity, the alarming escalation with Iran, and broader reflections on aging and engagement ensure there’s something for everyone looking to catch up on news, politics, and the unpredictable world we live in.

Transcript

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[Joe Getty]

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And.

[Jack Armstrong]

Welcome to a brand new week live from Studio C. Sometimes. Sometimes the bison of life flips you in the air and you land on your head. Sometimes the soccer ball of life hits you in the head and goes right in the goal and you move on to the next match. That's the way life is this week, which is gonna be. You don't know. How y' all doing? Deep within the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty communications compound and today, toiling under the title of the show.

[Joe Getty]

Well, bless his soul, Lindsey Graham's death is a loss for freedom. Or alternate title, frostbitten, wounded by attacks from both bears and moose, Joe Getty returns from Alaska. There you go.

[Jack Armstrong]

People will be happy.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God. I was beset by the. I was running from a bear when I was gored by the moose. It was a bad day. Brooklyn, dang it, toss me into the water where I nearly escaped being eaten by an orca. It was a long day.

[Jack Armstrong]

That guy's okay. Who landed on his head?

[Joe Getty]

He landed on his arse, as a matter of fact.

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Oh, really?

[Jack Armstrong]

It looked like he landed on his head.

[Joe Getty]

No, as I watched him flipping, I thought, oh, oh, arse, excellent.

[Glenn Washington]

Good.

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Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, at his age, that makes all the difference in the world.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I think anybody has gone ass over tea kettle, whether, you know, beset by bison, motorcycle wreck, sports, whatever. As you're flipping around in the air, you're thinking, oh, boy, I hope I don't like oh, on my head. Oh, not good.

[Jack Armstrong]

I. I tweeted out a picture of a buffalo. We were that close to it. Somewhere in South Dakota or Montana or something like that. Summer before last, you're. You think you're far enough away, they're not going to run at you. And if they did, you could scurry off. But apparently not. Y.

[Joe Getty]

Well, old granddad, the flippy, not the whiskey. Old granddad was not violating any of the guidelines because he was, they say, be 25 yards away. He seemed to be solid 25 way, didn't he?

[Jack Armstrong]

So the guidelines. There are guidelines for how far away you're supposed to be from a buffalo?

[Joe Getty]

There are? Absolutely.

[Jack Armstrong]

Apparently they're wrong. Apparently those guidelines need to be updated. Well, they're guidelines.

[Joe Getty]

Listen to the safety extremists, Michael. We're dealing with a millennial here. You want a world where you view buffalo from bison, more properly, from miles away to make sure everybody's safe? Safety first. He worship safety. I say you commune with the beasts. Occasionally you get flipped.

[Jack Armstrong]

You worship guidelines from bureaucrats

[Joe Getty]

on, I've been here for three minutes, and already he's at my throat.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hilarious.

[Joe Getty]

Vicious. Yeah, it didn't take long.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I'd update those guidelines if you're gonna have guidelines. Apparently million times that grandpa gets flipped. I've never even heard of guidelines for this. I would ignore them if I had heard them. I will get as close as I feel like getting on any given situation. Looking at the buffalo and seeing how agitated he seems. This one seems fairly at. Seemed fairly agitated, Though the one I looked at from close was just laying there chewing its grass. This one looked wound up about something.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Needed a girlfriend. Maybe that was it.

[Joe Getty]

That's exactly it. It's buffalo sexy time right now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, man, if you really need a girlfriend, the last thing you need is some old man staring at you. I've been the same way.

[Joe Getty]

What are you looking at? You're really wanting someone.

[Jack Armstrong]

There's some old man staring at you, taking pictures. He'll get away from me.

[Joe Getty]

I'll chase you through the trees. I'm gonna roll around in the dust for a while and try to calm down. But if you were still looking at me when I get up. I tell you what, there's gotta be all the pain.

[Jack Armstrong]

You think hiding in these little trees is gonna work?

[Joe Getty]

You need nast flipping. That's what you need.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, crap. He landed on his butt.

[Joe Getty]

Boy, the thing's as big as a box car, though. Agile as can be. That's got to be a bad feeling. You got a bison chasing you. I bet that old man had moved that fast in 25 years.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll bet he hadn't either.

[Joe Getty]

He was a fat guy, too. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, old and fat is no situation for fighting a bison.

[Joe Getty]

Long beard, flapping in the wind. Where were we? Ah, Lindsey Graham. God bless him.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we're certain that he did not die at the hands of Vladimir Putin at this point?

[Joe Getty]

Well, it's possible Vlad Putin, insidious monster that he is, had some sort of clever device inserted in Lindsey Graham's order to dissect it, but it seems unlikely. I shared this with the crew via text over the weekend. My neighbor had precisely that same thing happen, and they barely got into his house and saved him.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it does make it less likely, although I was surprised by just tweeting out, you know, did Putin do it? The number of people who thought that was tinfoil hat stuff. Are you crazy? There's documented evidence of Putin killing lots of people. Yeah, and there's hardly a bigger opponent on Earth outside of Maybe Zelensky. It's possible Lindsey Graham was more important than Zelensky in terms of who would Putin would want to get rid of, as Lindsey Graham was definitely the most powerful person in government advocating for the United States to take on Ukraine at the highest level and had the President's ear.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

So it's not at all tinfoil hat stuff to think Putin would want to poison him or get something sort of nerve agent in him or something like that.

[Joe Getty]

But look, if he had died mysteriously and said, I can't see, I can't see, and then drop dead, well then,

[Jack Armstrong]

yeah, well, his, his PR people didn't help with their. Why didn't you put out? He had a massive heart attack or whatever you'd call it, as opposed to after a short illness. He died unexpectedly. Okay. That's just like setting up the world for wondering what they got.

[Joe Getty]

A short illness, A brief and sudden illness. Yeah, he was aorta tour.

[Jack Armstrong]

He was, he was talking at a podium like an hour ago. So this, this looks pretty weird.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So when we found out what actually happened, it was a little bit different.

[Joe Getty]

I was reminded of how the modern world works, though. In the immediate aftermath of the announcement of his passing, I jumped onto Twitter for the first time in a couple of weeks, which was refreshing the break, not the going back to it, and was immediately struck by how many grifters were trying to sell their particular twisted conspiracy theory of how he died and how that's such a fertile field now. You got to get your grift out there, you got to get your. Your framework out there. And of course, half of them ended up with, you know, it was the Jews for some reason, of course. But yeah, that's. That's such a fertile business these days. Such a profitable business.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lindsey Graham, only nine years and seven months older than me. So I got my attention. But when I found out that his dad had died, heart blew up on him Also at age 69, I thought, oh, okay. That also makes it seem more likely. Just one of those things I've had

[Joe Getty]

a cardiologist say to me personally, and I didn't appreciate it at the time. Joe, Often the first sign of heart disease is sudden mortality.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was something. I was watching one of the speeches that Lindsay gave late. What day did he die? Saturday night. Late Saturday afternoon. And thought, it's incredible. This guy has just only got like three hours to live watching this speech.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's wild.

[Jack Armstrong]

It really could be a world history changing aorta explosion, though. Lindsey Graham was the hawk of hawks on Iran and Ukraine, and had the ear of the President more than anybody on planet Earth.

[Joe Getty]

Really, really did. I believe they were. They were good friends.

[Jack Armstrong]

Those two things could add up to history changing, sort of death there, because there's not going to be another advocate that has the President's ear that way.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I wonder. Boy, I hope that's not the case, but it sure could be. And I'll elaborate on the following point later, but here's the brief version. You're seeing commentary from various quarters, including some of the rotten pieces of crap at the Lincoln Project and others.

[Jack Armstrong]

They are rotten pieces of crap.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, they really are. They're awful human beings. They're bad Americans. They're bad humans. I said that twice. The analysis being Lindsey Graham, who initially criticized Trump harshly, later aligned with him, showing he's a hypocrite and he became a sycophant. That's some good stupid analysis from evil people. And if you're stupid, enjoy that stupid, stupid analysis. Here's an alternate analysis. He kept his eyes on what mattered. He kept his eyes on the policies he cared about and thought, damn, I got to work with Trump now, but we've got to do what's right for America. So I'm going to work with Trump best I can. There you go. Oh, boy.

[Jack Armstrong]

And did he influence the government the direction he wanted? Absolutely.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jack Armstrong]

And if he hadn't been in office, he wouldn't have been able to.

[Joe Getty]

So if he'd taken his toys and stomped off, gone home.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a tough one. Look, not everybody can do that. I wouldn't be able to just, okay, I'm gonna make friends with this person I hate. I. I don't have that in me. But, yeah, if you want to accomplish things in politics, you need to have that in you.

[Joe Getty]

A couple of things that really struck me on that topic about Lindsey Graham was, number one. He was a lot like me. I can't remember who was saying this, but. Oh, Tim Scott said this. He is gay senator from. No, from South Carolina who said Lindsey just didn't hold grudges. He couldn't remember who he was supposed to be mad at. And he liked people, so he figured, ah, we'll work together, we'll find a way. He was just a sweet human being in that way. And I don't mean gay. I mean pleasant, you idiot.

[Glenn Washington]

And.

[Joe Getty]

And the other thing was on Twitter, the part that didn't make me want to vomit immediately and smash my smartphone with a hammer was several people came up and said, I had a bitter disagreement with them. I said terrible things about him. Ben Dominic was one, I remember. And what's the other guy's name? Doesn't matter. And they said. And I ran into him a week later and he was completely friendly and welcoming. And I said, you know, I'd said some harsh things about you. And he said, oh, everybody gets to have an opinion. That's fine. I get it. I can respect that. And he just didn't hold grudges.

[Jack Armstrong]

Remember when Trump gave out his phone number? Gave out Lindsey Graham's phone number.

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That was a funny moment. Anyway, we should start the show officially now that we're back. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe getty on this. It is Monday, July 13th. We're almost halfway through July already. The year 2026, where Armstrong, you get in. We approve of this program.

[Joe Getty]

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[Joe Getty]

What is this Hitler?

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Anyway,

[Joe Getty]

He was also hilariously funny.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've got a funny quote from Al Franken, the former Saturday night live writer who went on to be a u. S. Senator. He was asked, who in government is funny? And he said, nobody except for Lindsey Graham. Said lindsay Graham is hilarious. Like, truly hilarious. From Al Franken.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

We'll get to headlines with heather Myers coming up. Do we have Heather today or no,

[Joe Getty]

we do not, sir.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Self generated homegrown headline.

[Jack Armstrong]

In summertime, it's hard to have everybody working at the same time or at school at the same time or at your whatever at the same time. I've noticed with various meetings, I'm trying to have stuff like it because everybody's, you know, different schedules. Anyway, we'll get to headlines. Other things that are going on in the world. And there's lots of stuff going on, things that Lindsay Graham cared about that will longer have an influence on, which is interesting. All on the way. Stay here.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Got two quotes for you that can tell you where we are with the Iran war. Just with two quotes. Centcom said today Iran does not control the Strait of Hormuz. Iran said the Strait of Hormuz is our territory and we will not allow a rogue and child killing army from the other side of the world to continue its illegal interference in it.

[Joe Getty]

There's a real contrast there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's a point of difference. That is going to have to be. That bridge is good. The space is going to be bridged. With some sort of.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, some excellent analysis there. Yeah. So a handful of headlines. That's certainly one. Big new strikes on Iranian targets throughout the weekend, according to centcom. Retaliation, tit for tat, et cetera. Iran lashing out at all the Gulf states, including Oman, which was going to be their buddy in charging tolls in the straight.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. We had a conversation on Friday. Why? As long as you say for tat afterwards you can say the other word. But if you don't say for tat after it, you can't say that word. It's interesting. Isn't. Is.

[Joe Getty]

And in similar fashion, I can say, you're an ass, Michael. Or I could say, I dug a hole yesterday. But it's best that the two be kept apart.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or the fabulous dog, the Shih Tzu.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, it's a fine breed. Loyal oil. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Gotta have the zoo.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Must, Must be. Must be there. Anyway, where were we? Ah, yes, you probably heard this. Preliminary medical examination determined Lindsey Graham died. An aortic dissection, a tear along the inner layer of the main artery due to arteriosclerotic cardiovascular vascular disease. Stabbing pain from your back to your chest and back again. That's the symptom. Call 911- RIGHT NOW.

[Jack Armstrong]

According to Politico, on Friday evening, hours before he died, he said he didn't feel very good. He's going to go to the doctor right after his appearance on Meet the Press yesterday morning. Oh, as soon as I get done with Meet the Press, I'm going to the doctor. I do not feel good. And he actually said out loud, I can't die now. I'm so close to getting the thing done with Iran.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah. Again, the sanctions against the. The Ruski higher up, the higher ups. He was finally going to get that through. Finally had Trump support. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Yannick Sinner won his second straight Wimbledon championship. Jack Rawls, Sinners, man.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wimbledon.

[Joe Getty]

Nothing else on that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not get the attention it used to get. I watched more soccer over the weekend than I have watched cumulatively in my entire life. So soccer has entered my world. And we do have. We're down to the Final Four and you got France, Spain today and Argentina, England tomorrow.

[Joe Getty]

Did you hear that? That epic Argentina, Egypt battle that was lost by Egypt has launched a giant new anti Semitic conspiracy theory online. No.

[Jack Armstrong]

They call it one of the great games in the history of soccer. And I watched it and it was amazing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. We'll tell you about. Exciting, absolutely moronic attempt to blame the Jews for everything. What the hell, people. Never again is. Now later on in the show, you got your mirror of. Never mind. Nobody cares about that. Mitch McConnell showed up again. He's very old. He fell. He had the pneumonia.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I think that was a. I think that was a. Lindsey Graham died. The Senate's so close to 50. 50. I gotta come out and he's been in the hospital for a long time. Come out and say, I'm still alive. Monty Python like Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Is he? What's his status electorally? He's not running for reelection, is he?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, but he is in the Senate and needs to be a vote if they're gonna vote on anything.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, South Cackalak needs a new senator now, and there will be a temporary one. But former congressman, I think he is, who's 78 years old, has said, yes, I'll serve out the term and then I'll run for a new term. No. Just no.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and Nancy Mace came out and said she might run.

[Joe Getty]

If anybody's looking for a crazy senator, she'd be a good choice.

[Jack Armstrong]

We'll catch you up on some other stuff that happened over the weekend, though. There's a new dating app that apparently is caught hold among young people. Lots of stuff. Hard news, soft news, and everything in

[Joe Getty]

between Armstrong and Gettysburg.

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I'm Glen Washington, host of the Snap Judgment storytelling podcast from kqed. Every week, Snap deals a new card. Like the San Francisco girl selling weed brownies after school who uncovers a secret. Or the Oakland man who invented the wave and never got his credit. Or even the actual Lake Merritt monster.

[Joe Getty]

What?

[Glenn Washington]

Pick a card, any card. Snap Judgment with kqed. New episodes every Thursday. Wherever you get your podcasts.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

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[Joe Getty]

This latest round of airstrikes came after Iran fired on a Cyprus flag cargo ship crossing the Strait. It was traveling outside of the route designated by Iran and following the route encouraged by the US One sailor is now missing and the ship was disabled. President Trump says Iran triggered this round of violence.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I wanted to play that to get into a little feature I'm going to do. Called me asking Joe questions since he's back from vacation. Joe was that old guy who got flipped by the bison.

[Joe Getty]

Now, if you've seen that video hurt.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Oof.

[Jack Armstrong]

Luckily he's okay and he's back from vacation. That clip there about Iran firing the ships, I can't figure out what Iran's strategy is. What are they trying to do? They had like the greatest. The reason everybody left, right and center hated the mou, the deal Trump made was because it was so good for Iran. You got a great deal. The money spigot was turned back on. You're dragging your feet on your nuclear negotiations. You won. So why did you start firing on ships? What is their flipping strategy?

[Joe Getty]

A couple of things. Number one, I've read some some learned analysis that suggests they have decided that the Strait and or Straits of Hormuz is their nuclear weapon. And so they are going to control it, period. And they are going to wear the US and the west down till we say okay, okay, you can charge tolls and control it. Just please let the economy function. So they wanted more than the deal. And the second thing is, if I

[Jack Armstrong]

was advising them, I'd say you won.

[Joe Getty]

Well, see, take the win. Here's the. I agree with you. The other part of the problem is. And John Bolton, who, by the way, makes Lindsey Graham look like J.D. vance. John Bolton is saying we were too successful in decapitating the Iranian leadership. They don't have anybody who can make a decision and make it stick across the government. They are still trying to figure out how to run the place and who's in charge. They can't make a deal. They're too weak. Which I thought was interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. So they announced late in the week, might even have been over the weekend, the government announced, hey, that wasn't us that fired on those ships in the strait. It's some rogue people. We have no control over. Is that them just jerking the world around or is that true?

[Joe Getty]

Could be true.

[Jack Armstrong]

Also could just be, hey, you can't blame me. That was some crazy guy.

[Joe Getty]

Well, exactly. Both scenarios are entirely possible.

[Jack Armstrong]

But it accomplished what they wanted as ships start stopped going through the strait because once again insurance companies are saying no, no, you're not going through there.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, I just, I just. So since you weren't here last week, Wall Street Journal is reporting on Friday was that 0 had been had happened so far in the nuclear negotiation, in the talks for a couple of weeks, zero, not a single thing had been accomplished. Nope.

[Joe Getty]

Hadn't even like decided how to set up chairs and the table and whether we'll have coffee or just like multiple beverages or nothing. Nothing.

[Jack Armstrong]

We did cut off the money spigot. Secretary treasurer came out and said, okay, that's over. You don't get to trade in US dollars and sell oil and all that sort of stuff. So we're back in the square one on that.

[Joe Getty]

It struck me that nothing had changed in the last two and a half weeks. But I guess that changed a lot happened in between.

[Jack Armstrong]

But yeah, ultimately you come back after vacation and you're in the same spot as when you left

[Joe Getty]

which more, more of the same sort of things happened. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I thought Iran was going to get away with making lots of money and dragging their feet on the war, getting a nuclear weapon thing for until they got one. But I don't know where we are now. I was listening to Jim Vande Hei. I think he's the guy that started Politico or something anyways. Journalists with a lot of connections. He said by far the most likely direction this thing goes now is exploding conflagration. In terms of the war getting really big. That's by far the most likely thing that happens at this point.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah. I think he made a really good point 30 seconds ago. I've been predicting more or less what you are that Iran would pretend to agree to something dragged their feet develop nuclear arms. That's what they've always done. But shooting at the ships in the straight, it that that is contradictory to that. And, and it brings it back to my other point. The straight is the new nuclear weapon must be their strategy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wall Street Journal and New York Times today arguing that we've got to open the straight. We need to militarily force open the straight. New York Times and the Wall Street Journal.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So are we going to do that or not? Because that's, that's going to require Like a real war with loss of life.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

May Jack you good folks. And God forgive me for bringing up the year after next. I'm not even going to name it. Marco Rubio. Really clearly ascendant while J.D. vance is struggling.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah. J.D. vance getting killed everywhere. And he should, in my opinion, for that whole. You know what's really cool is the IRGC realizes they were making a mistake all those years. That was one of the dumbest things anybody that level or higher has ever said.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or just embarrassing things.

[Joe Getty]

And with all due respect to the missteps that have happened when America has projected a strong and forceful foreign policy. Iraq, for instance. The idea that we should. We just. We need to pay attention to our own neighborhood. And let's just let the Pax Americana, the American generated and enforced peace and prosperity the world has enjoyed for 75 years. Let's just let that go away and try something new. I'm back again. To tell you that's dumb. It's so dumb. Can we. Should we twist Europe's arms to be worth a crap and actually be an ally? Yes, 100%. Should we tweak the projection of American power and constantly reassess how it's being used and how expensive it is and what benefits we're getting from it? Yes, 100%. But isolationism is stupid.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. The ghost of Lindsey Graham is inhabited in Joe's body.

[Joe Getty]

I believe I am being possessed by Lindsey Graham. God bless my. My soul. Bless my soul.

[Jack Armstrong]

Another question about something that happened while you were gone. That woman came forward with the very believable rape accusations against Platner. She was part of that New York Times article that buried it for some reason. Nobody's quite sure what was going on there. But Platner getting out. Good thing for Susan Collins, the sitting Republican senator. Or bad thing? That's kind of interesting. Drove him out of the race. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Does that help her or hurt her?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, boy. That's a. That's a good question. Because the. The faux Oysterman. The gruff yet eloquent faux Oysterman. He had charisma. Undeniably. He was a political force.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, he'll force his way into your house and rape you.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Even if you said repeatedly, don't come over or don't touch me, he'll do it anyway.

[Joe Getty]

Of course.

[Jack Armstrong]

You break into his house, he'll take his sharpened ax and then also rape you.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that's right. Yeah. To show his dominance. Right. I'd forgotten.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not a gay Thing. Remember he said that it's not a gay thing. He's going to show dominant. Right, Exactly.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. I, I, you know, my first, my quick answer is, yeah, it's better for Susan Collins that he's out because whoever gets in, barring some sort of, you know, Lou Gehrig sits down and Cal Ripken comes in scenario or whatever. I can't remember how all that transpired. Oh, I guess Ernie Brolio sat down. It doesn't matter. Anyway, the point is if, you know, some superstar emerges. Well, okay, great. But that's unlikely to happen. So, yeah, him being out is a good thing. Although he's a communist wackadoodle. But communist wackadoodles are ascendant. I've got some great analysis on that too.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's highly true. Did you see a picture of Tim Sandifer with James Lindsay? Tim sent that out. He's with him at some event the other day. And I texted back to him, I said the two of you could save America. Certainly could. Tim Sanford going around talking about the Declaration of Independence, what it actually means, versus the crazy forces of the 1619 project. And James Lindsay, America's leading anti communist.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. And James wanted to say hello to us, apparently. Or at least that's what Tim said. And I'm going to choose to believe that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got one more question for you, soccer related. After we tell you about what you can do for your dog.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

happy life from the inside out. Good nutrition.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's something you sprinkle on your current dog food. You're not changing your dog's food. That's why thousands have added rough greens on top of whatever they're feeding their dogs. Live probiotics, enzymes, omega oils, over 20 vitamins and minerals. It's America's number one dog supplement. All natural, made in the United States. You can try it for free.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my. Local IMAX is going to show the Odyssey on the IMAX. The Odyssey comes out Friday, I think is the date the 17th. And my son's going with his friends. I was hoping to take go with them. I guess I'll sit there by myself like some sort of sad person who wants to see the Odyssey.

[Joe Getty]

I'm an Iliad guy, but if you want to waste your time, go ahead.

[Jack Armstrong]

I. I feel like it's. I've never. I've never read it. I feel like this will help me along and I can kind of quote it for the rest of my life having never had to read it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Pretending that you're familiar with the same

[Jack Armstrong]

guy that made Oppenheimer and, you know, a bunch of other really amazing movies.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And there's the usual argument online about is it woke or not. I just. I just don't worry about that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm not paying any attention to that conversation.

[Joe Getty]

Well, what was I going to say, though? I had a comment on that. The Odyssey, The Iliad quoting. Never mind.

[Jack Armstrong]

So, quick soccer question before we take a break. And then we get the mailbag. The four number one seeds have made it to the final four. Is that waste of time? Do we need to restructure something? Is that a good thing, a bad thing? I don't know. It just feels. No, no big ups.

[Joe Getty]

No, it's like. It's like the first time ever. Or the first time.

[Jack Armstrong]

First time in modern history, whatever that means.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, it's just. It's. It happened. It's quirky, it's nutty, but don't worry about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I gotta tell you, soccer has really grown on me. I didn't think it was possible. I've been mocking soccer my entire life. I think the announcers helped. I had a sports guy on last week. The announcers, at least on some of the matches I've watched, have done what they do during the super bowl every year, where they dumb it down knowing there's a bunch of people watching who don't understand the game.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And they did that. And it helped me out. So I knew what to watch. Cause that's the way it is with all sports. Went to the Oakland A's game with my son who doesn't know anything about baseball, and he was so bored. If you don't know what's going on, sports is incredibly boring. If you really know what's going on, every second is interesting.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Plus, the more you watch, the more you see. Okay. They move the ball across the field hoping to get a mismatch in an alignment so they could get the ball forward. Oh, look, they've reversed field now. I'll bet they're going to. You start to anticipate and understand the rhythm and the structure of the game.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's exploded online as the selfies. Most selfish play in soccer history. Have you been following that one? Holland, the big star for Norway that I'm sure soccer was hoping he would go on as he's become the face of soccer worldwide.

[Joe Getty]

They got the Giant, the striking Viking.

[Jack Armstrong]

The giant guy, but ponytailed striking Viking. Yes. Eric Holland. And he's running down the field. He beats his guy. He's all alone in the middle of the field with another guy coming down. And the other guy decides to take on three dudes. Gets the ball kicked away from him rather than easily. I could have done it. Passing it over to the biggest star on the planet and letting him do his thing. It was just awful.

[Joe Getty]

Not familiar with that controversy, but I'm willing to get angry about it online.

[Jack Armstrong]

I. I hope he feels bad about himself. Wanted to be the star. I guess. You got a star right over there as I'm the ball

[Joe Getty]

boy. The US get pantsed by Belgium. Imagine that. Pants by Belgians.

[Jack Armstrong]

The best thing about Holland was his sister putting out a video on Instagram over the weekend mocking her brother because she does an impersonation of him. That is so funny.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Her head sticking out, her chin walking around.

[Jack Armstrong]

Very, very funny. Okay, we got Mailbag up next.

[Joe Getty]

Stay here. Armstrong and Getty.

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[Glenn Washington]

I'm Glenn Washington, host of Snap Judgment, the award winning storytelling podcast from kqed and every week, Snap deals a new card. Like jumping on Rihanna's private plane. Or the accidental bank robber. Or even the man who was swallowed by a hippo. What? Pick a card, any card. Snap Judgment from kqed New episode every Thursday, wherever you get your podcasts.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Hi, it's Kyle McLaughlin, host of the what Are We Even Doing Podcast. You know, my favorite part of the morning is that first cup of coffee. A small, quiet ritual that sets the rhythm for my day. That's why I appreciate DE'. Longhi. For over 50 years, they've combined Italian craftsmanship and thoughtful design. And as the number one espresso machine brand in the world, they make it effortless. Just a damn fine cup of coffee in your own kitchen. Right now you can save 10% off your purchase at DeLonghi.com with code Kyle at checkout. After all, if it's not Italian, is it even espresso?

[Jack Armstrong]

Two years ago today, Donald Trump almost had his head blown off. Two years ago.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Crazy. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day. Milton Friedman, the great Milton Friedman. The fundamental threat to freedom is powerful to coerce, be it in the hands of a monarch, a dictator, an oligarchy, or a momentary majority. Heard an Australian woman given a speech about men masquerading as women, invading women's spaces, the whole transgender madness, idiocy. And she points, she points out, we're told that these people are the downtrodden. How about I stand up for women in front of them? Who's gonna get trampled, them or me? If I say no? Women are women and men are men. Who's going to have the power in that situation? They're the most powerful people in our society, she said. And she's right. Mailbag. Momentary majority. Drop us a Note. [e-mail] Got a handful of notes like this from Anna, Louisa and Muggy La Mesa. Great to hear everyone together last Friday. Can't believe Joe, you came back to the circus of real life. What with a full time job, sleeve boy, Cadillac margaritas and a 12 year old bottle of scotch to sip every evening, you might have found a way to stay. Hide out. Find a lifeboat big enough to hide in.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's because that bison flipped him on his head and he thought, I've had enough of the wilderness.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Getting the hell beat out of me.

[Jack Armstrong]

I gotta go home.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah. It was an interesting experience having that much freedom for that long. I'm not, I'm not.

[Glenn Washington]

I'm.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe we'll talk about it later. Our Dear tan, rested and ready and Jack. Welcome back Joe. I remember when Jack abandoned the show after 911 happened. When 911 happened. Joe leaves the show and senators start dropping. Never leave again. It's Ryan in Houston who mentions he's taking his 14 year old son to the the Railroad Museum in scenic Sacramento, California which is if you, if you even like like looking at trains go by.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know it sounds the Railroad Museum. It does not sound the first time anybody ever told. It's a fantastic. I was telling my brother about that who was in town for the A's game because where the major league baseball team the A's play is right by the Railroad Museum more or less. What an amazing place that is to go.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. Here's an argument for guys to go. If you're into machines at all, they have some of the most amazing machines ever done. That giant steam engine, the locomotive that's like the size of a city block and you look at all the connections and machinery and pumps and valves and all, it's hard to believe it ever existed. Anyway, yeah, go to it. It's great. Moving along. Let's see. Kevin, the Texas Marine mentions that every guest on Friday knocked it out of the park, especially hearing from Katie and that Anastasia Bowden. Anastasia Bowden is now one of his favorite human beings and needs a regular invite to the show from the Pacific Legal Foundation. She is a gem.

[Jack Armstrong]

She is really good and with a couple of big Supreme Court rulings coming down, it was great to have her.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah, terrific. That's, you know, I missed some of the great interviews. That's how. Well, I'll never take a vacation again. Couple of messages for Jack from Julie. First, I hope Jack, I hope Joe brought Jack a nice souvenir moose hat or something because that was an awfully long stretch for him to have to do the show on his own. Second, he thinks he's reached. Jack said you said you reached an age where people are no longer annoyed by his incompetence and are happy to help him figure things out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, I did do a long segment on that because it's true. And I kept pointing out to my son, it's so funny. I now have problems with anything or can't find something and people are, oh my gosh, that poor old man is lost or can't figure this out and people gather around to help me.

[Joe Getty]

Oh my gosh, I've reached that age. Wow. But Julie suggests, I think it's more likely that people are generally just friendly and helpful because he's Only now experiencing this not because he's over 60, but because he finally worked to ditch his resting murder. That's true.

[Jack Armstrong]

I do have a different face now.

[Joe Getty]

It could be both.

[Jack Armstrong]

It could be, could be. It could be the new face. No doubt about it. The new face has helped. I purposefully changed my face. You can do it.

[Glenn Washington]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, let's see. Greg, the army guy with a positive epiphany. Multiple explanation points. I had an epiphany and it's wonderful. I'm a crusty old effort. As one gets old, as you know, one becomes more and more conservative, slash cynical, slash based in reality, slash rage fueled, angry at the world. I am that guy. However, I also have a weird part of my personality that is insanely optimistic. And he says, maybe the advancements in health care are coming. We will live much longer than what we thought was possible. We will, in the next five to ten years, escape reach escape velocity for aging. Health care will advance so much that at some point in our lifespan, it will increase faster than we age. Therefore, there will be way more crusty old Fs. Result, conservatism will reign and all will be right with the world. Stop being the most depressing show in the world for about three minutes. Read this to your audience. It might be funny, but it's also true. Read this again five years from now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Positive epiphany. Yeah. They have, you know all the advancements we're making in keeping the body and the brain going. They have not changed anything about how you get worn down by life and cynical. I don't know how that we're going to deal with that

[Joe Getty]

or. Or disillusioned, which I, for years now I've thought is a weird word because people act like that's a bad thing. Walking around with illusions is good. No, disillusioned is good. Be a realist. Understand how the world works and find your happiness in reality, not in fantasies about how human beings behave anyway.

[Jack Armstrong]

But what if you can't enjoy any new this or that because you've been around so long, you've seen them all. And it's like, I want another one of those. What?

[Joe Getty]

Reach for the bottle. I don't know. Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Kyle McLaughlin]

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