Well, It Depends On What The Definition Of Lubricant Is...

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "Well, It Depends On What The Definition Of Lubricant Is..."

Release Date: February 27, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode covers recent political spectacle and culture-war flashpoints with Armstrong & Getty’s signature irreverence, sarcasm, and sharp critique. The main focuses are the historic Congressional testimony of Hillary and Bill Clinton regarding the Epstein case, the viral story of a teacher caught urinating in a coffee can, growing crackdowns on welfare fraud spearheaded by Senator J.D. Vance, and a deep-dive into medical and legal controversies surrounding gender-affirming care for minors. The hosts riff on each topic, expressing skepticism about Congressional motives, mocking America’s outrage cycles, and advancing their views on policy and societal change.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Clinton Congressional Testimony & Congressional Spectacle (03:15–11:32)

• Historic Testimony:
  Hillary Clinton testified before Congress for six hours, the first instance of a former president (Bill Clinton to follow) being forced to testify over the Epstein investigation.

• Armstrong & Getty's View:
  Both hosts criticize the move as a "norm-breaking" escalation that's likely to boomerang:

  “Not a fan of this particular norm breaking here. First time a president, former or current, has been asked to or forced to testify like this... it’s just going to continue.” — Joe Getty (03:32)

  They foresee Democrats, if in power, using the same tactics against Trump and his family.

  "They’ll just go down the line, keep subpoenaing.” — Jack Armstrong (04:11)

• Substance vs. Spectacle:
  The hosts question whether there is actual wrongdoing or just political theater:

  "There are so many actual things that we should be digging into... But this is what we do anyhow." — Joe Getty (07:13)

• Notable Quotes:

  • “It got at the end quite unusual because I started being asked about UFOs and questions about Pizzagate, one of the most vile, bogus conspiracy theories...” — Hillary Clinton, summarized by Armstrong (05:36)
  • “If I go to a clown show, it better not be serious.” — Jack Armstrong (08:35)

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2. On Political Performances & Media Outrage (08:10–11:31)

• Congress Called Out:
  Democrat Yasmin Ansari calls the hearings an “unserious clown show.”

  • The hosts riff on this, joking about the absurdity of Congressional hearings being more outlandish than literal clown shows.

• Bill Clinton Under Scrutiny:
  Discusses the unresolved questions about Bill Clinton’s Epstein connections, noting “Epstein was at the White House 17 times” but expressing personal doubt that Clinton participated in the more salacious alleged crimes.

• Political Gamesmanship:
  Consistent theme: Both parties will weaponize hearings, diminishing the process' credibility.

  • “Race to the bottom. Nothing will come out of this.” — Armstrong & Getty (11:20–11:31)

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3. Teacher Caught Peeing in a Coffee Can (11:59–15:14, 18:29–21:34)

• Viral Incident:
  Hosts recount a Sacramento news story where a teacher—at a school attended by Joe’s kids—was filmed urinating in an empty classroom out of classroom hours.

• Hosts’ Perspective:
  Present it as poor judgment but not a capital offense, especially compared to what they see as more dangerous school policies.

  “Tell the dude to quit peeing in a can. Worry about the s*** that matters.” — Jack Armstrong (12:35)

• Public Reaction:

  • Some are horrified; others shrug it off as weird but not serious.
  • Jokes about the teacher’s reaction:

    “He enjoys it. Maybe I’m doing it wrong.” — Armstrong (14:55) “Gosh, gosh, love it, love it, love it... I have never urinated and then said gosh, love it, or anything close.” — Joe Getty (20:13)

• School & Union Complications:
  They predict that union protection might prevent the teacher's easy dismissal, drawing aggravating comparisons to more serious offenses that go unpunished (21:08–21:23).

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4. Gender-Affirming Care and Medical Policy Debate (26:30–37:37)

• Emerging Policy Shifts:

  • Hosts summarize legal battles: 20 states challenge the AMA for supporting puberty blockers for minors, while California mandates gender-affirming care be continued at a San Diego hospital.
  • The hosts are highly critical of gender-affirming treatments for children, decrying the research base, and situate the controversy in larger ideological battles.

• Evidence & Media:

  • Praise for the New York Times' more nuanced coverage and call out the American Academy of Pediatrics’ past and present inconsistencies.

• Notable Quotes:

  “A 2018 policy statement by the American Academy of Pediatrics... [said] children who say they are trans know their gender as clearly and as consistently as their developmentally equivalent peers — an extreme exaggeration...” — Jack Armstrong (31:06) “It is absolutely horrific that the activists were able to capture these organizations...” — Armstrong (33:05)

• Ideological Framing:
  Both hosts frame the “gender ideology” movement as neo-Marxist in origin, citing activists' own words (35:00–36:45).

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5. Welfare Fraud Crackdown by J.D. Vance (42:35–44:52)

• Initiative Details:
  Republican Senator J.D. Vance is targeting Medicaid fraud, starting with Minnesota. The hosts explain how state/federal funding structures incentivize overspending and invite fraud.

• Fraud Examples:

  • “Somali run fraud outfits that were ‘feed the Families’ and fed freaking Nobody.” — Jack Armstrong (43:17)
  • $9 billion in estimated Minnesota claims “fraudulent.”

• Impact:
  They praise the move but predict inevitable overcorrection:

  “People who actually need medical care won't get it.” — Joe Getty (44:24)

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6. Lighter Moments: Dress Code Outrage & March Madness Parm Wars (42:06–46:45)

• Airport Pajama Ban Joke:

  • Tampa Airport jokes about banning pajamas and Crocs; social media outrage forces retraction.

    “Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right or anybody should even listen to you.” — Jack Armstrong (45:52)

• Cultural Commentary:

  • Hosts ponder why "maximum comfort" dress only gained mainstream traction recently.

    “I think it's communism. That's all I have time to say.” — Armstrong (46:15)

• March Madness–Style Chicken Parmesan Contest:

  • A light aside about a contest to determine New Jersey’s best chicken parmesan. “Going to be confusing when 30 of the choices are my cousin Angel Villa’s.” — Armstrong (42:14)

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7. Odds & Ends (37:45–39:00, 46:49–End)

• Moon Landing Delayed:
  • NASA's landing postponed to 2028; hosts briefly muse on Chinese ambitions.
• Florida Man in the Mud:
  • “Stuck up to his shoulders in mud without food or water”—a teaser for further investigation.
• Podcast Promotion:
  • “If you missed a segment or an hour, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.” (46:58)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If I go to a clown show, it better not be serious.” — Armstrong (08:35)
• “It depends on what the definition of lubricant is.” — Joe Getty, cheekily referencing Bill Clinton’s famous phrasing (11:16)
• “Gosh, gosh, gosh, love it, love it, love it.” — The pee-can teacher, via audio (19:56)
• “This is an unserious clown show. I can’t believe though, he’s got a big red plastic Folgers coffee container... he pees in it. And then what does he say afterwards? ‘Oh, that was a good one.’” — Armstrong (14:34–14:52)
• “There was never any evidence to support the purported consensus [for pediatric gender-affirming care] and now it is no longer possible to lie about this fact that was always true.” — Armstrong, quoting Jesse Singal (33:16)
• “[Crackdown on Medicaid fraud] will ought to be getting 50 times the attention is getting.” — Armstrong (44:24)
• “I think it’s communism. That’s all I have time to say to shout the communists.” — Armstrong, re: airport dress codes (46:52)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Clinton Testimony & Congressional Norms: 03:15–11:31
• Teacher Coffee Can Incident: 11:59–15:14, returns at 18:29–21:34
• Gender Affirming Care Policy & Critique: 26:30–37:37
• Welfare Fraud Crackdown by Vance: 42:35–44:52
• Airport Dress Code Backlash: 44:52–46:45
• Comic Relief: Chicken Parm Contest: 42:06–42:24
• Moon Landing & Florida Man: 37:45–38:45

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Overall Tone & Style

• Sarcastic, irreverent, skeptical of institutions and official narratives
• Frequent riffs and digressive banter on public outrage, political hypocrisy, and policy fads
• Conservative/libertarian perspective, especially on government spending and cultural change

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Summary Takeaway

In this episode, Armstrong & Getty reduce the week’s biggest “scandals”—from Congressional theater and viral teacher missteps to ideological battles in pediatrics and bureaucracy—down to their essentials: performance, overcorrection, and distraction from real issues. Their comedic sensibility is a consistent throughline, inviting listeners to laugh at the state of modern politics even as serious questions about power, truth, and accountability remain.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio

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Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

And now he.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's Armstrong and Getty.

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So this is the marquee event marking the first time a former president has been forced to testify before Congress. It comes after the House Oversight Committee voted to hold the Clintons in contempt of Congress in connection with their probe into the Epstein case.

[Joe Getty]

I'm not a fan of this particular norm breaking here. First time a president, former or current, has been asked to or forced to testify like this. Hillary yesterday, Bill today, just because it's going to continue. I was just watching old shirt sleeves. Jordan, Brendan, the Armstrong and Getty Show.

[Jack Armstrong]

Jim Jordan. Jim Jordan say wrestle you for forgetting his first name.

[Joe Getty]

He said because the Democrats when they get the House are absolutely going to subpoena Trump then maybe while in office, let alone when he's out of office. I mean, that's a given that he's subpoenaed when he's out of office.

[Jack Armstrong]

And Don Jr. And Eric and Melania and who's the Tiffany. They'll just go down the line, keep subpoenaing.

[Joe Getty]

Right. And they can subpoena him while Trump's still president. So he'll have his. Trump's kids will be in there answering questions about Epstein. Their name appears multiple times in the Epstein files. Yeah, but in connection to anything that is of danger to the American public and is of use to like as a crime or just in the files. That's the thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

They're both at a cancer fundraiser. Come on.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and, and, well, I suppose first of all, let's hear from Hillary. Hillary testified yesterday for six hours. God, it's a long time.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've never wanted to hear from Hillary and I don't want to hear from her now. You won't hear, but this is short

[Joe Getty]

here, her coming out afterwards. So it was recorded and it's going to be released early next week. Why it wasn't live so we could just get it over with. Because I don't want another round of news coverage of this. But here's. She came out afterwards and gave her version of what it was like in there.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know how many times I had to say I did not know Jeffrey Epstein. I never went to his island. I never went to his homes. I never went to his offices. So it's on the record numerous times.

[Joe Getty]

And then she went on to say this about the various questions.

[Jack Armstrong]

It then got at the end quite unusual because I started being asked about UFOs and a series of questions about Pizzagate, one of the most vile, bogus

[Announcer]

conspiracy theories that was propagated on the

[Jack Armstrong]

Internet that was serving as the basis of a member's questions to me.

[Joe Getty]

So now this is Hillary's version of what happened yesterday. I would like to see that because she, you know, she's a partisan spinner and we all know that for many, many years. But I, there's at least one member of that committee, I forget show Jack

[Jack Armstrong]

called Hillary a spinner.

[Joe Getty]

Boy, you got to be maybe for Shaq.

[Jack Armstrong]

Easy, easy. I went too far than you. Come on, reset. Where were we?

[Joe Getty]

Get your dignity back. There's at least Congress, there's at least one member of that committee that either is full on QAnon or thinks enough of his voters are few on QAnon that has made all kinds of comments throughout this thing that is probably the one that brought up the Pizzagate thing like in serious terms that like the, you know, there's a pizza shop. They're running a child, a pedophile ring out of. I, I personally don't believe that for a second that the, not, not even a little bit that the Clintons were running a pedophile ring out of a pizza shop.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just don't know if you're busy running a phony foundation.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And making gazillions of dollars. That's one of the problems with these hearings.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

There are so many actual things that we should be digging into. Gazillions of dollars of waste and fraud and theft and all kinds of stuff. But this is what we do anyhow. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Gee, that's interesting, isn't it? Think about it. Think about it.

[Joe Getty]

So here's James Comer. He's the chair of the committee and his version of what happened yesterday.

[Jack Armstrong]

Clip 40 she was asked many times about questions with respect to Jeffrey Epstein because there were many forms of evidence in the documents that have been released by the Department of Justice and the estate that included her name in there. And she kept saying not only did she not have a relationship with Jeffrey

[Joe Getty]

Epstein, that he was a shockster and,

[Jack Armstrong]

and you know, he was a con artist and all of that.

[Joe Getty]

So I guess we'll have to see the actual video when it comes out next week. I want to get this on just because I want to comment on. I don't know. Representative Yasmin Ansari, Democrat, I assume.

[Announcer]

Clip 43 Today we are sitting through an incredibly unserious clown show of a deposition where members of Congress and the Republican Party are more concerned about getting

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their photo op of Secretary Clinton than

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actually getting to the truth and holding anyone accountable.

[Joe Getty]

I only wanted to play that for the phrase unserious clown show. If I go to a clown show,

[Jack Armstrong]

it better not be serious.

[Joe Getty]

If it's a bunch of clowns sitting there discussing whether or not we should go to war with Iran, that's not.

[Jack Armstrong]

Whatever days I consider whether life is worth living.

[Joe Getty]

See, that's a serious clown show.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nobody wants that. No, I want an uncertain. Get up, honey. We're leaving.

[Joe Getty]

My kids are crying. All you're talking about is cancer research and war.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was told this was an unserious clown show. I want my money back. Fraud.

[Joe Getty]

That's what I call this.

[Jack Armstrong]

I got to admit, though, I think she's right. This is idiotic. Grillin Hillary for six hours. I never met him. I didn't know him. I've never traveled with him. I don't know anything about any of

[Joe Getty]

this for six hours.

[Jack Armstrong]

What the f is the point of that?

[Joe Getty]

Now on the other end, her husband, who I think is being grilled right now, Bill Clinton. As Mark Halpern writes, he's. I mean, he's got actual things to they can ask him about. I don't think he was purposefully having sex with underage girls in part of a pedo ring, but, I mean, he did. Epstein was at the White House 17 times. 17 times Epstein was at the White

[Jack Armstrong]

House while Bill Clinton was president. That's a lot.

[Joe Getty]

Flew on the plane, went to the island. All the stuff sitting in the hot tub. Who was the girl? I mean, there's all kinds of questions you can ask Bill Clinton. Even though I ultimately think it's just an attempt to put the Clintons in an uncomfortable position. Oh, I didn't get to what Jim Jordan said. So Jim Jordan, Republican, was asked about that. Won't the Democrats now subpoena Donald Trump? And he said, he's probably right. They were going to do it anyway. They were going to subpoena Donald Trump anyway.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Which is probably true. And that's where we are in this whole thing. And then Mark Halperin's video cast that I watched yesterday is the only place I've heard anybody bring this up. How sharp is Bill Clinton? Apparently people close to him and know him, he has definitely lost his fastball. He's not the Bill Clinton that we remember from days gone by. Hillary, perfectly capable of handling herself. Sounds like she always sounded just older. Bill apparently slipping into Joe Biden territory. So who knows how he'll do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I suspect he'll say a lot of. I don't recall and I never witnessed anything illegal. Yeah, there was womanizing and stuff like that, but yeah, who knows? I don't know. He is old, but he's also a gifted attorney and. And politician. And so if. If there's anything. I don't think there's anything there. And if there were, he could cover it up fairly easily.

[Joe Getty]

It depends on what the definition of lubricant is.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, boy. Oh, brother. Yeah. Yeah. Race to the bottom. Race to the bottom. Nothing will come out of this. Nothing will come out of this.

[Joe Getty]

I don't think so.

[Jack Armstrong]

But you know what was. Something will come out of his. J.D. vance is cracking down on fraud in. In our vast welfare state. We can tell you about the opening salvo in that it's in Minnesota for good reasons. But holy cow, the list of states. California is long and they are going hard at the waste and billions of year dollars. I think it's wonderful. Oh, plus a blockbuster gender bending madness update that's also on the way.

[Joe Getty]

We were just talking about a local teacher who got caught on video somehow in a. An empty classroom. Important to emphasize that classroom was empty either. Like I don't lunch hour or after school or whatever. But he is peeing in an empty coffee can for some reason in the classroom as opposed to going to the restroom. And there seems to be a great divide between men and women where men were like so and women are horrified or.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or bad idea. But come on now, it wasn't. You know, it's not a serious offense. Just tell them to stop it.

[Joe Getty]

I would be in that category. Yeah, pretty odd.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's an. It's an error in judgment. But seriously, in that very school, all three of my kids went there by coincidence years ago. But in that very school, they're indoctrinating your children. That little boys or little girls who are mildly unhappy are probably the wrong sex and they should change their sex. But don't tell mommy and daddy. It'll be between us schools all over California. Tell the dude to quit peeing in a can. Worry about the s that matters.

[Joe Getty]

So you're more worried about the encouraging sex change operations than the urine soaked halls.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? Yes. You're a dough. He peed in a can, you liar. Why the witch hunt? It's a high tech media witch hunt of a man who just had to pee.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, Katie, from someone who closely monitored the video that was posted.

[Jack Armstrong]

He cut it pretty close because there is maybe a minute and a half

[Joe Getty]

before the students reentered the classroom.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, any sign of locking and unlocking the door?

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No.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's really bad judgment.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Because obviously if a kid runs in

[Jack Armstrong]

early or forgot their ex, whatever X might be.

[Joe Getty]

Well, this got recorded because somebody's laptop was sitting there recording video.

[Jack Armstrong]

Intentionally.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, intentionally.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because they had discovered the can, thought it was urine and one of the kids decided, let's surveil the teacher. Oh my God. Yeah, there's all sorts of hijinks going on.

[Joe Getty]

Oh my God.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. There are children involved.

[Joe Getty]

So I assume this guy's name's out. We haven't mentioned his name, the teacher. I mean everybody found it. Yeah, everybody who's got a kid in that classroom can name him. And I'm sure it's online. If I took two seconds, I'm sure I could find it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I don't want to be IP

[Joe Getty]

Freely is his name. Ingemar P. Freely. Ingamar Philip Freely is his name. It's just the congratulating himself at the end too.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nice.

[Joe Getty]

This is an unserious clown show. I can't believe though, he's got a big red plastic Folgers coffee container and he looks around a little and he unzips. He pees in it. And then what does he say afterwards? He's like, oh, that was a good one.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. He enjoys it. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, Right. It's got something to be done and moved on from. But he's really enjoying it. Well done, sir.

[Joe Getty]

More on that as the situation warrants case to hear.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Giddy. Oh, what a completely unserious clown show. I'm not afraid of that.

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[Joe Getty]

This is a local story for us. We broadcast from Sacramento, California. Joe's kids actually went to the school. But it's universal. And you can all appreciate it because a teacher, clean, peeing in a coffee can in the classroom, I think has got, I don't know, sort of thing we can all relate to in a weird.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's the universal language. An empty classroom. Yes, an empty classroom during the school day.

[Joe Getty]

Right. And the kids secretly recorded it. Left their laptop open, recording because they suspected this was happening.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes,

[Joe Getty]

we've.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've seen the video.

[Joe Getty]

I've seen the video. We've all seen the video. I had not heard the audio, though. So we captured the audio off the Tick Tock video. This is the guy. He's got a red Folgers coffee container. He brings over.

[Jack Armstrong]

He takes a little serious clown.

[Joe Getty]

He unzips. You do not see any genitalia, thank God. He unzip. That's interesting. How did they. That almost seems fake from that standpoint. It's framed just exactly so you can tell what's happening. But not seeing any nudity. How would you get it exactly right like that?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. Just luck. Serendipity. I don't know. Don't get hung up on it.

[Joe Getty]

I'm starting to be suspicious of this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe editing.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe. Anyway, here's the audio for during and after.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, gosh, that was good. Gosh, gosh, gosh, gosh, gosh, gosh, gosh, Love it, love it, love it. Kept it clean. Gosh, gosh. Appreciate the gentle language. It's middle school, after all.

[Joe Getty]

I have never urinated and then said, gosh, gosh, gosh, gosh, love it. Or anything.

[Jack Armstrong]

Close again. Maybe you're not doing it right.

[Joe Getty]

But why does he enjoy that so much?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. I'm not a urologist.

[Joe Getty]

I'm not a urologist.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not the question. I thought you were. This is irrelevant. Your Honor.

[Joe Getty]

Thought you' v always said I almost went to urology school. Haven't you been saying that for years?

[Jack Armstrong]

Close. I own the gear. I'm just not quite sure how it works.

[Joe Getty]

We don't know the guy's name. I'm sure he could find it really easy. Even if I had the name in front of me, I wouldn't say it on the air.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, no, it's out there.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

So do you think he's going to be forced to resign over this? But he is because I know the way.

[Jack Armstrong]

Very good chance there is. There's a union involved, so.

[Joe Getty]

Boy, that's a good point. There are teachers who molest children and the union finds a way to keep them employed or moves them to a different school. This guy I don't think has done anything wrong. Only a little weird.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, it's an error in judgment. I just a bit of an odd one. But, you know, my question is, is he a good teacher? If he's a good teacher, say, jim, cut it out. You can't do that anymore.

[Joe Getty]

It might.

[Jack Armstrong]

And he says, I'm sorry, I'm embarrassed. I just, I was trying to save time. You're right, it was a terrible idea.

[Joe Getty]

They might try to fire. He sues and we end up with goes all the way to the Supreme Court. The case of gosh, gosh, gosh, that was nice. Versus the state of California.

[Jack Armstrong]

I believe that was just an excuse to reset. What the man said, where I thought you were going with that idiotic comment was that it's going to cost the district, you know, half a million dollars to defend the lawsuit.

[Joe Getty]

I am interested though. Like, he's probably like, I'm near a bathroom right now in the studio and I've never thought, I think I'll just pee in this coffee can here rather than walk.

[Jack Armstrong]

We've joked that we wish we had urinal, but yeah, yeah, his crime was laziness.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Poor guy. I bet his day is ruined.

[Jack Armstrong]

Day.

[Joe Getty]

How many, how many people are texting him friends? Dude, saw you on the news, heard you on the radio.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, just. Just terrible.

[Joe Getty]

Gosh, nice pee. Gosh.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey, looks like you're having a hell of a good pee there. That was nice. See you later. Coming up, a gender bending madness update full of significant developments. Really significant. Don't miss it. Stay with us. If you can't grab the podcast Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

My catchphrase that I tried to get going a couple of years ago, yo, yo, yo. And it never really caught on. I've got the T shirt and I trademarked it, but it just hasn't caught on the way I thought it would.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you shouldn't have ordered so many in advance. He's got warehouses full of yo, yo, yo T shirts. Yeah. Too bad. Coming up, J.D. vance and company trying to crack down on waste, fraud and abuse. And thank goodness for it. First, though, it's a gender bending madness update.

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[Jack Armstrong]

De Loco. We're in a brave new world. This is a very encouraging gender bending madness. Up state progress is being made. Cool. Yeah, absolutely. Here's story number one. 20 states are taking the American Medical association to task for continuing to support puberty blockers for kids, despite the fact that the AMA recently came out against trans surgeries for children. Alabama Attorney General Steve Marshall wrote a letter to the AMA this week on behalf of a coalition of 20 attorneys general lauding the association for aligning with the American Society of Pediatric Surgeons that said sex change shirts surgery should be 100% reserved for adults only. However, they argued that the AMA's position on puberty blockers and cross sex hormone therapy is inconsistent given the similar, practically identical lack of any good research on outcomes for children who report having gender dysphoria. Yeah, I mean, the reasoning for saying no surgery is precisely the same as no chemical castration.

[Joe Getty]

Well, obviously, I can't believe it took lawyers to get to that point. If it's going to have permanent results, it doesn't make any difference.

[Jack Armstrong]

In a horrifying turn of events, a judge in California just forced Children's Hospital in San Diego to continue providing cruel experiments mutilating children on a temporary basis, including puberty blockers, hormone therapies to minors under 19. This ruling comes just weeks after California Attorney General Rob Bonta launched a lawsuit against the hospital for halting the mutilations.

[Joe Getty]

That's insane.

[Jack Armstrong]

Citing a violation of a merger agreement.

[Joe Getty]

Do you think he believes that or just thinks he thinks that that's what the woke crowd wants? There's no way that's a majority opinion, even in California.

[Jack Armstrong]

Rob Bonta is a crook and a monster. I don't know what his motivation is.

[Joe Getty]

He almost has to believe it because I don't think even a majority of Californians would be in favor of that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right. The fine print is that the merger agreement between this hospital and another hospital, they had to sign an agreement that the state made them saying they would continue to provide all services, including gender affirming care. And even though now all the medical associations are finally admitting what they've known to be true, that there's no freaking research to support these absolutely cruel Joseph Mengele style experiments on confused children they've been promoting, now they're all backing off of it, but this judge in the state of California says no, you have to keep doing it. It's horrific. It's absolutely horrific. Here's some more encouraging stuff though. And Jesse Single, I think that's how you pronounce the name, writes for the New York Times and I know what y' all and we think generally of the New York Times and the reporting these days, they have been notably serious and accurate in reporting on the very things we're discussing right now.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I heard they deserve praise. What's the owner's name? Publisher's name? Never can remember the last Scholenberger Schultz Burger.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Yeah, Schultz, whatever. Rickenbacker. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I heard a podcast with him. Yeah, he they really, really want to be fair on this issue and feel like a lot of other publications have been wrong.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wesley Yang, who's got a really worth following Twitter Twitter account says it takes only four paragraphs for Jesse Singal to summarize the process by which pseudo consensus on behalf of the chemical castration of confused children was astroturfed into into being in the absence of any good evidence. And I'm going to read that for you right now. Singal writes. The most striking finding of the Cass review, a 2024 British inquiry that found, quote, remarkably weak evidence to back up the practice of youth gender medicine was the shoddy quality of the professional guidelines for this treatment. Researchers at the University University of York, who provided underlying work for the CASH review found that rather than being linked to careful independent evaluation of evidence, the GU guidelines relied heavily on other organizations guidelines, the authors wrote, quote, this may explain why there is until recently been an apparent consensus on key areas of practice for which evidence remains lacking. For instance, a 2018 policy statement by the American Academy of Pediatrics provides a useful example of how these documents can go wrong. At one point, it argues that children who say they are trans quotes quote know their gender as clearly and as consistently as their developmentally equivalent peers, quote, end quote an extreme exaggeration of what we know about this population. A single study is cited and it's not a good one. The document also criticizes the outdated approach in which a child's gender diverse assertions are held as possibly true and not accepted immediately until an arbitrary age. Adulthood. The aap, that's the American Academy of Pediatrics, was instructing clinicians to take four and five year olds claims about their gender identity as certainly true.

[Joe Getty]

That's insane. It is if you've ever raised a four or five year old. They. They are certainly true. They certainly believe. Well, the Easter bunny and a whole bunch of other different things.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, Right. A green monster just came into the room and ate the cookies. The AAP was instructing clinicians to take four and five year old claims as certainly true. It's understandable why the cast reviewers scored this policy statement so abysmally, giving it 100 possible points on rigor of development and 6 out of 100 on applicability. This is a serious rigor rigorous medical examination of the data. Policy statements like this one reflect the complex and opaque internal politics of an organization rather than dispassionate scientific analysis. The journalist Aaron Saberium's reporting on reporting strongly suggests that a small group of AAP members, many of whom were themselves gender youth. Gender medicine providers played a disproportionate role in developing these guys guidelines.

[Joe Getty]

Shocking. What percentage of those five year olds were told this by their parents. How many, how many of them came to this on their own or their teachers? Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. Single documents the manner in which major US based medical associations are either stonewalling now or shrinking away from the confidence of their prior pronouncements on pediatric gender medicine. And that confidence was always fraudulent and never evidence based because there is no evidence. The American psychological association in 2014 for instance, quote argued that there is a comprehensive body of psychological and medical research supporting the positive impact of gender affirming treatments for individuals, including children. Comprehensive body of psychological and medical research. Last year the same group argued that psychologists do not make broad claims about treatment effectiveness. This dramatic erosion in confidence reflects the fact that one there was never any evidence to support the purported consensus and 2 now it is no longer possible to lie about this fact that was always true and has repeatedly been proven to be true by the National Health Services of Social Democratic Europe and now by a major medical society, the American Society of Plastic Surgeons, which issued a statement calling into question every single aspect of the pediatric gender medicalization pipeline. You know, I could go on, but I think you've gotten the idea. It is absolutely horrific that the activists were able to capture these organizations with the authority of these organizations, spread the Word that this radical philosophy, which I'll tell you again where it came from, they were able to spread it and mainstream it and people were afraid to argue against it. And how many kids have been mutilated. It's unbelievable this. And if you know the origin of this, it's straight out of the Marxists of the mid 20th century who failed with Workers of the World Unite. So they thought, okay, how else can we divide society and get people to question Western civilization? Do you remember? And I should have asked for this audio when Patrisse Cullors. I think it was at the height of the black lives madness. Black lives matter mad madness. She said, you've learned your critical theory, your gender theory, your queer theory. Now it's time to put all those theories to work. As she was rallying the kids for literally a rally, wow, that is straight out of the critical theory crowd in Frankfurt in the middle 20th century. These people, once again, they wrote books. Their names are on the spine. They said precisely what they're going to do. This is not a fantasy of mine. They said what they were going to do. And radical gender theory is an aspect of it. They wrote books about it. Anyway, one more thing and I'll stop ranting. This is from Christina Buttons, who wrote this in what publication is this? I can't remember. One of the central claims behind gender affirming care is that medical transitions improve mental health. But a major new longitudinal study on adult has corrected the flaws in earlier research and found that medical transition is likely not what is driving those improvements. In other words, these are people with emotional mental health problems. God bless them, they got the sex change and if any improvement happened, it was independent of the sex change. That was never their problem. And in fact, the one piece of evidence that the radicals keep citing is gender affirming treatments did not reduce depressive or anxiety symptoms significantly after controlling for coping and social support. Where is the key phrase? It essentially says that it caused a temporary, very temporary feeling of now I'm happy now. It's good in the like the honeymoon period after the procedures because they thought, ah, I've been told over and over again this is my problem. We have solved my problem, I'm going to be happy now. And within a matter of weeks, months, they realized, oh my God, no it hasn't. But the statistics cited by the activists were in that very brief period. So it's just utterly, utterly fraudulent. Gender mending madness update with hope I think the people who push these mutilations really ought to be brought to trial.

[Joe Getty]

A lot of them are going to be.

[Jack Armstrong]

I certainly hope so. Or at least a civil court. Sue the bejesus out of them.

[Joe Getty]

Breaking news. NASA says the moon landing attempt is going to be delayed to 2028.

[Jack Armstrong]

No.

[Joe Getty]

So no other story.

[Jack Armstrong]

What if the Chinese sees our moon in the meantime?

[Joe Getty]

Another story out of Florida where they often launch rockets. This headline. I might look into more of the details. It sounds interesting. Interesting. A Florida man who went missing on Valentine's Day was rescued yesterday after being stuck up to his shoulders in mud without food or water.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my Lord. And mosquitoes eating at his face too.

[Joe Getty]

Was rescued yesterday. Today. Yesterday was the 26th. That for the 14th.

[Jack Armstrong]

You can't.

[Joe Getty]

You can't go 12 days without water. He must add some water. Must have access to some water. Water you can go without food.

[Jack Armstrong]

That long serpent. The sip. And the pond scum that was around him.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Stuck up to his shoulders in mud. That sounds like a nightmare. I'll get more details on that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Maybe the fact that he was perfectly motionless and protected from the sun.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Except for his face. But you're right, that's extraordinary. Without water.

[Joe Getty]

We'll figure out more on that. The great airport dress code debate. We could check in on that. For some reason that's erupted in the news, we might be going to war with Orion. Of course. And lots on the way, so stay here.

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[Jack Armstrong]

The website NorthJersey.com has launched a March

[Joe Getty]

Madness style competition to determine the best chicken parmesan in the state.

[Jack Armstrong]

Though it's going to be confusing when 30 of the choices are my cousin Angel Villas.

[Joe Getty]

A major airport posted a joke about a dress code rule. People lost their S and they've had to retract it. That coming up.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right, all right. So this ought to be getting the attention that's going to the idiotic waste of time grueling of Hillary Hillary Clinton, in my opinion. Great piece by Kim Strassel in the Journal opinion pages about J.D. vance tightening the fraud spigot. Going off after Minnesota first with several more states to be named. Going after the incredible misspending of federal dollars through these perverse systems that if you spend one state dollar you get seven federal dollars. And so states are going wild spending. And she gets a little bit into the weeds here. But she says this is unprecedented and different from the administration's moves to pause grant disperment to high fraud states disbursement. Future payments are also at risk. This is a powerful approach since it attacks the key structural flaw in the current system. Medicaid is a joint federal state program but states make all the decisions and send the feds a bill. So states have little interest in policing fraud in making sure that a nonprofit they send money to is real or qualified or successful. Like the stinking Somali run fraud outfits that were feed the Families and Fed freaking Nobody. But the state didn't care. It wasn't their money. Some Medicaid populations every dollar state pays brings $9 from federal taxpayers. Obviously spend more, get more.

[Joe Getty]

Obvious. Yeah, obviously there's an incentive problem there.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is how you get an estimated $9 billion in fraudulent Minnesota claims. This federal ultimatum. No more reimbursements until you are paying legit people for legit services surely sent terror rippling through state administrations across the country. This will ought to be getting 50 times the attention is getting.

[Joe Getty]

Of course we'll take it too far like we always do. And people who actually need medical care won't get it. It's kind of like after the. After you were giving home loans to anyone. Wouldn't matter if they are three maxed out credit cards and a credit score of two you gave. Then shortly after that you crack down. I remember the first home loan I got. It was almost impossible. It was ridiculous. So we always swing too far the other direction.

[Jack Armstrong]

But yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

So the Tampa International Airport posted this over the weekend. They had signs around the airport and they put this on their website. We've seen enough. We've had enough. It's time to ban pajamas at Tampa International Airport. After successfully banning Crocs and giving everyone the amazing opportunity to experience the world's first Crocs free air airport. It's time to take on an even larger crisis. And they did that thing where you put a period after each word for drama. You know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Pajamas at the airport in the middle of the day. We know this decision could be disruptive to someone in your life. It's time to have a difficult conversation with them. You can do this. We and Phoebe believe in you. I don't know what that is. The Madness stops today. The movement starts now. Help Tampa International Airport become the world's first First Crocs. Free and pajama free. Airport. Do your part. Say no to pajamas. Anyway, people went berserko and now they've had to issue a We're just kidding apology.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God. Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right or anybody should even listen to you.

[Joe Getty]

What do you think caused the move toward ultimate comfort with dress? And why didn't it happen earlier? Earlier? I'm. That's what I'm interested in. It's been headed that way for a century. I'm not an ultimate comfort guy, but I know you and lots of people are.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't. I don't go.

[Joe Getty]

I don't dress for maximum comfort really ever, but most people do now. And what do you think caused it?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I'm wearing pants. I mean, I mean I'm a max comfort guy. I kind of. But only in certain settings. I would never wear anything other than like nice golf clothes to travel in.

[Joe Getty]

What do you think caused it though? Why didn't it happen earlier? I think is a better question. Why did guys used to wear a vest and a hat and hard shoes?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a book length answer and we have 12 seconds.

[Joe Getty]

I'd like to. I would like to hear the answer. I think it's communism.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's all I have time to say to shout the communists. That's why, you idiot.

[Joe Getty]

That's the end of that hour.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you missed a segment or an

[Joe Getty]

hour, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. Hour four to come Armstrong and get

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