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Jack Armstrong
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.
Bill Maher
As you know, 12 days ago I had dinner with President Trump, a dinner that was set up by my friend Kid Rock because we share a belief that there's gotta be something better than hurling insults from 3,000 miles away. And let me first say that to all the people who treated this like it was some kind of summit meeting. You're ridiculous. Like I was gonna sign a treaty or something. I have no, I have no power. And he's the most powerful leader in the world. I'm not the leader of anything except maybe a contingent of centrist minded people who think there's got to be a better way of running this country than hating each other every minute.
Joe Getty
Oh, your lips to God's ears. Even though you're an atheist.
Jack Armstrong
That Kumbaya. Love it.
Joe Getty
How before we get to. That's Bill Maher from his HBO show on Friday. And he had dinner with Trump and Kid Rock and Dana White and a couple other people at the White House, which would be about the coolest thing that ever happened in your life if you ever got to do it.
Jack Armstrong
It's a hell of a guest list.
Joe Getty
But Bill Maher, with his whole I'm a centrist, he's a centrist left, but I mean, compared to, you know, the politics of what you'll hear on the news all day long, he's a centrist, no doubt. Is there any way that crowd us can take back over? Is there any chance of that?
Jack Armstrong
We have to be specific about what we want to do and attack it in an organized way.
Joe Getty
I think you get. I think rules need, I think laws and rules need to change. I think the current structure of campaign finance and that sort of stuff, I don't think any rhetoric could change it. I think you gotta change that.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, I'm. Well, yeah, I'm not talking about rhetoric necessarily, but in our school system, which is, as we've outlined many times, completely infected with far left ideology, needs to be dealt with.
Joe Getty
Pretty much the only way you lose your seat as a senator, as a House member, is from someone in your own party who's further to the extreme than you. That's almost the only way you lose. So as long as that's true, we continue down the road. We are, but I'm off track already. Here's Bill Maher talking a little bit about what it was like to eat.
Bill Maher
With Donald Trump in the Oval office. He was showing me the portraits of presidents and he pointed to Reagan and said, in all seriousness, you know the best thing about him? His hair. I said, well, there was also that whole bringing down communism thing, waiting for the button next to the Diet Coke button to get pushed and I go through the trap door. But no, he laughed. He got it. He didn't get mad. He's much more self aware than he lets on in public. Look, I get it. It doesn't matter who he is at a private dinner with a comedian. It matters who he is on the world stage. I'm just taking as a positive that this person exists, because everything I've ever not liked about him was, I swear to God, absent. At least on this night with this guy.
Joe Getty
Isn't that interesting?
Jack Armstrong
It really is.
Joe Getty
And Bill Maher is a hardcore Trump hater. Everything I've ever not liked about him was absent on this night.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. I mean, we all have our public facing Persona, what we do and how we act, and we're a little different among friends or a more intimate setting Trump seems to have. His front is very different than how he's described by everybody who spent time with him. Friends of ours, Bill Maher, of course.
Joe Getty
A lot of the things Bill Maher hates about the public Trump, we love when we see it, you know, we laugh uproariously or whatever. Let's hear a little more from the lefty Bill Maher.
Bill Maher
There were so many moments when I hit him with a joke or contradicted something and no problem. At dinner, he was asking me about the nuclear situation in Iran in a very genuine, hey, I think you're a smart guy, I want your opinion sort of way. He didn't get mad or call me a left wing lunatic. He took it in. I told him I thought parts of his plan for Gaza were wacky, but that I had supported him in the idea that Gaza could be Dubai instead of hell. I never felt I had to walk on eggshells around him. And honestly, I voted for Clinton and Obama, but I would never feel comfortable talking to them the way I was able to talk with Donald Trump. That's just how it went down. Make of it what you will.
Joe Getty
I thought that was really interesting. I would have never been able to talk to Clinton or Obama the way I talk to Trump. But just feeling so comfortable and like you're having a real, you know, human interaction, they're actually listening to you, that sort of thing.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, he's describing the other side of the coin that is Trump's ability To connect with people in general, but, like, working people. That lack of projecting that I'm better than you, which is interesting, is he's almost certainly the richest guy who's ever been president or perhaps ever will be. I don't know. The common touch they used to call it. Well, right.
Joe Getty
Well, Bill Maher talks about how he looks you in the eye and seems to actually be listening to what you're saying. I mean, that's really, really interesting. I mean, I'm not surprised because, like Joe said, we know people who worked for him, like, worked for him, saw him every day. That was the one woman that we knew. That was before he was president, when he was, like, you know, a TV star. She worked with him and said, no, he's not like that at all. He says, yeah, that's not surprising to me that that's a personality trait, though. We've all known successful people who don't listen to you and they're successful. So it's. I mean, it's not like you have to have that trait to be successful. I think it's probably helpful. It's just some sort of personality trait.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And this is less about politics or hating Trump or loving Trump or anything like that. It's just trying to understand human beings. Trump is famously the guy who follows his gut, and he trusts his gut, and it served him well in a lot of ways. Undeniably. I think sometimes it gets him in completely unnecessary jams. But, you know, that's my opinion. What's interesting is he comes off, you know, in that clip by Bill Maher, for instance, and describing Obama and Clinton. He comes off as a guy who's much more open to listening to other people's opinions.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
Than a lot of powerful men.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Mars says, I've had so many conversations with prominent people who are much less connected than Trump was. People who don't look in the eye, people who don't really listen because they just want to get to their next thing. People whose response to things you just say that you say you can tell. Doesn't track none of that with him. And he mostly steered the conversation to, what do you think about this? Which is interesting. And Bill Nar says, I know your mind is blown. My mind is blown. But that's what it was like.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, Yeah. I liked where he was. He. He compiled a list of the terrible things Trump had said about him through the years.
Joe Getty
We'll have to play that later.
Jack Armstrong
And. And had Trump sign the list for him, which he cheerfully did.
Joe Getty
That's pretty Funny.
Jack Armstrong
So getting back to the whole wwe, Trump's got a wrestler Persona, but behind the scenes he's happy to sign the. The picture where he was getting beat down by Black Bart or whatever. Right.
Joe Getty
Just to wrap this up, not to be Trump obsessed, but he did have his physical over the weekend. I need a physical. Sound like I'm dying. It's allergies. Some sort of weird plant, as in a bloom, apparently. Trump deemed an excellent health and robust neurological condition by the White house physician. The 78 year old Trump. It's hard to remember that he's 78 because he's so energetic as a 78 year old. 6, 3, 2, 24. He's lost a significant amount of weight since his first term when he was 243. So he's lost £20 since when he was eight years younger, which is good. Other vital signs, listen to this. Is a 78 year old fat guy who eats fast food and has the most stressful job on planet Earth. Trump's blood pressure clocked in at 128 over 74, which is great. And his resting heart rate is 62. He's only on two medications, one for both of them for his cholesterol to keep it in the optimal level notes. The only medications he takes.
Jack Armstrong
Wow, that is. Well, it's a gift.
Joe Getty
It's, you know, he, he, you know, doctors will tell you what's the. Don't smoke and have good genes. Those are your best tips for being healthy late into age. Don't smoke and have good genes. And he clearly has good genes and he doesn't smoke. So.
Jack Armstrong
Right, right. So coming up, trying to untangle what the heck's going on with the tariffs and also, and I want to get to this, I think it's important we reckon with it. There's a hell of a lot more to the media's Biden cover up than just group think. And Jack was right all along. Hate as I do to admit it, Dr. Jill was the engine. She was the evildoer behind the scenes. We have lots of great information on that.
Joe Getty
I got a question, I got a question for you because she's speaking live now and Hanson can grab it. How much do you want to hear from Katy Perry about how going into space changed her as a person?
Jack Armstrong
I want very much to hear that for the purpose of hating it.
Joe Getty
So we've got a lot on the way. Stay here.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty. Puff of dust. Last milliseconds. Air cushion that will kick up the dust. It's a very soft Soft landing, despite the sporty perception. There it is. And they're home. Oh, my God, they're all good. The screaming terrible gut wrenching.
Joe Getty
That's the chicks into space. I think they're calling it Katy Perry and Bezos's hottie fiance and Gayle King. What was that? It's a very soft landing, despite what.
Jack Armstrong
The sporty something dust because it looked.
Joe Getty
Like a hard landing, but maybe there's springs in there that makes it feel soft. I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
I'm. I'm trying to care, but I just don't. As long as everybody's okay, I'm happy.
Joe Getty
It took them a long time to come out. They came out. Their hair was perfect. I guarantee you the time spent sitting there was some sort of stylist making sure their hair was okay because they got to wear helmets and stuff.
Jack Armstrong
Well, right. You're right. That's odd.
Joe Getty
I mean, Katy Perry looked like she looks on the COVID of a magazine when she's selling her shampoo.
Jack Armstrong
Speaking of behind the scenes, the true story of the Biden senility cover up coming up later on. Plus my experiences at Augusta National Golf Club.
Joe Getty
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Whoops. We need the theme music to play anyway, so I thought this was really interesting. Justin Leihart in the Wall Street Journal talking about how the US Lost its place as the world's manufacturing powerhouse. And. Well, I'll just launch into it. They mentioned that in the 50s, there was over a third of the private sector jobs in the US were manufacturing. A little over a third, 35%. Today it's about 9.5%. Of course, the population has more than doubled since the 1950s, but still the raw number of manufacturing jobs has got to be down a little bit. If my numbers are correct, and I believe they are, yeah, but it's almost exactly the same. President Trump says the sweeping tariffs is aimed at bringing manufacturing back to the US Economists, as I'm sure you've heard, are skeptical that tariffs could do that successfully. And they worry that the damage that they do will outweigh any benefits. Not here to talk about that. At least not right now. I just thought it was interesting to go through some of the steps that we went through to become not a manufacturing powerhouse. Now they go through how in the early 1900s, we Americans pioneered the use of interchangeable parts and organizing factories for mass production. Henry Ford, the assembly line. We all learned that in school, back when we weren't being taught to hate our country and to love how innovative and energetic we are as a people. Remember that good Times anyway, so we had the infrastructure in place and the techniques and the technology. And then World War II came along and it was like, you know, gobbling up steroids to become the best manufacturers we could possibly be to beat back the Nazis and the Imperial Japanese. It's interesting. Now you can call the Nazis anything you want. The Crouch, the Jerry's, the, the fascists, whatever. You can't say anything rude about the Japanese though, because why? Because Japanese people look slightly different than Caucasians, whereas Germans are Caucasians. So you can say anything you want about them. Anyway.
Joe Getty
That's a good sign. That's a good question, Todd.
Jack Armstrong
We're at war with both of them slaughtering each other as fast as we can.
Joe Getty
Well, in Germany didn't attack us. Or at least not in that way.
Jack Armstrong
No, no, really. In the post war years, many more Americans joined the middle class and that drove jumps in spending on long lasting durable goods. Cars, appliances, homes, that sort of thing. And America was our best customer. We were our best customer for manufactured goods. But you can only buy so many of them. And after a while, more and more services were demanded and more and more places opened up, at least like rudimentary manufacturing across the world, Asia in particular. And so the service economy grew in America. More people, more spending, more jobs in the service economy and that sort of thing because we're so much more affluent after World War II.
Joe Getty
What's all. I keep hearing the term service economy. What's all included in service economy?
Jack Armstrong
Everything that you can't hold in your hand and look at travel, business, banking, financial advice, advertising.
Joe Getty
Banking is considered service. Okay, that's interesting.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, absolutely. Technology, software is service, insurance, agent, all that sort of stuff.
Joe Getty
Okay, yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Restaurants, hotels, you know, just, just all that stuff.
Joe Getty
So practically everything I'm going to interact with today I'll interact with. No manufacturing, right?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah, practically other than the goods you use, but most of those you probably own for a while. But in the 1980s, things began to change. American manufacturers of non dur goods. That's like clothes and paper products and just anything you're not going to have in a dozen years, 10 years, whatever. American manufacturers of non durable goods had an increasingly difficult time competing with countries where labor costs were lower. That intensified in the 90s in part as a result of the North American Free Trade Agreement. NAFTA lowering the duties on Mexican goods. That was Ross Perot's giant sucking sound. You remember that? Sucking all the jobs out to south of the border. He was right. Then steel producers in developing countries like South Korea you gotta remind yourself, in the 80s and 90s, South Korea was just a tiny, miniature version of what it is today as an economy. But they built up their steel industries and subsidized them and left the world awash in excess capacity. And we couldn't compete. So much of our steel industry went away then. But what happened in the 80s and 90s pales in comparison to what happened after the China shock, when we naively and stupidly thought China would be our buddies if we opened up to them economically and they would reform politically. They joined the WTO in 2001, opened the country to foreign investment, gained access to the global markets. And the US had faced import competition from other countries before, but never one that dwarfed its population. So instead of Japan coming on, first it was cheap transistor radios. Then made in Japan was code for cheap and crappy.
Joe Getty
When I were kids, when I. Yeah, exactly. When we were kids, that was a joke. You turn the toy over and say made in Japan, right?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, it's probably gonna break by turning it over. But anyway, China came on the scene super Suddenly. And in 1999, for instance, value of Chinese goods exports came to a tenth of the US's exports. We had ten times as many exports as China in 1999. Nine years later, China surpassed us as an exporter of goods.
Joe Getty
Wow, that's something.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And that is together with a couple other minor trade deals. That's why we where we are. China is a huge part of that. Hence Trump's emphasis on China.
Joe Getty
Another thing we're going to get to. Why do you like to rewatch TV shows or movies you've seen before? Science is in. It's interesting.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty.
Bernie Sanders
We don't want the richest guy on earth running all over Washington D.C. throwing tens of thousands of dedicated federal workers out on the street.
Joe Getty
That is Bernie. Oh, we don't have any.
Jack Armstrong
Cheering Bernard Sanders Play. Just play.
Joe Getty
Just a little bit of 62 so you realize how popular.
Bernie Sanders
Thank you.
Joe Getty
That's Coachella over the weekend. Bernie. Bernie, speaking at the big Coachella musical festival where it was 102 degrees and the weight to get in in your vehicle because of the security checks and everything like that was 12 hours long.
Jack Armstrong
We're going home, honey.
Joe Getty
12 hours in line to get into 102 Degree Music Festival. Man, that's a long time.
Jack Armstrong
But it's worth it to hear me yelling about oligarchs, right?
Joe Getty
So I got this funny thing. We'll get the audio for you later. Elon tweeted it Out. Somebody put together this montage. Bernie has been complaining about. Oligarchs have taken over since the early 90s. So 33 years. I think the first one's 1992, where he says, I have bad news. Oligarchs have taken over our country. And he says, every year for the past 30 some years. It's so funny. Well, here's a little of it right here.
Bernie Sanders
This great country of ours is moving very rapidly in the direction of oligarchy. The United States of America today is increasingly becoming more and more moving toward an oligarchy. We are moving in the direction of oligarchy.
Joe Getty
This is 2007.
Bernie Sanders
Even more rapidly in the direction of an oligarchy. Country is evolving into an oligarchy slowly, evidently. It is called oligarchy. And that is the system we are rapidly moving toward. This is a budget 2017. Our country rapidly into the direction of oligarchy, of billionaires are moving this entire planet.
Jack Armstrong
Seven years to go.
Bernie Sanders
An oligarchic.
Joe Getty
No, that's society.
Jack Armstrong
That's enough.
Joe Getty
But, yeah, you get the point. Bernard Sanders. How great is that?
Jack Armstrong
Oh, my gosh.
Joe Getty
Play the hits, man. Get up there in front of Coachella. You're a band playing at Coachella. Don't play some new track from your album they haven't heard.
Jack Armstrong
Play the hits. Right. Like I said, that's his free bird. He's not going to send you home without playing endow with the oligarchy. Come on.
Joe Getty
Oh, my God.
Jack Armstrong
Hilarious.
Joe Getty
It is hilarious.
Jack Armstrong
Hilarious. So this is more than dissecting the recent past. Joe Biden's senility and the COVID up of it. So understanding media to a large extent. And it was funny. In going through this piece by Beckett Adams, I was reminded of a couple of things that have guided us through the years. And it's, you know, I'm not patting ourselves on the back. It's like blind pigs finding acorns. But he starts talking about how Mike Allen, who co founded Axios, did a podcast with Barry Weiss, the fabulous Barry Weiss of the Free Press, talking about the COVID up of the senility. And he talks a lot about it. And it's worth pointing out that Axios actually had one of their best reporters, Alex Thompson, who was reporting accurately on Biden's deterioration, which is fairly unique. So I'm not here to kick Axios, but. So Alan says the media's coverage of Biden's health was, quote, all the worst parts of reporter brains coming together. And there is the group think, the mono think, and the cluelessness and this is where the American people see something, sense something, and they're not seeing it reflected in news outlets that they used to trust. And so specifically with the Biden health, people discounted what they saw with their own eyes, ignored it. And this is the reporter group think part of it. There's this insecurity, herd mentality. You don't want to be separate. It's like crazy. The typical reporter instinct, which is, I mean, like the opposite of what a reporter ought to be. You'd think.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
So I've been yelling for years. No, no, I've been yelling about how the media moves in a herd. And it's remarkable the extent to which, like a herd of cattle, they don't dare find themselves outside of the perimeter of the group in a way that's just really, again, it's antithetical to what a reporter ought to be. They ought to be an independent thinker who follows the facts and doesn't give a good GD whether other people are seeing it the same way. And then the other thing that we've kind of used to guide us through the years, and it's Beckett Adams point in this article, that it was a lot more than groupthink. It was that the media so wanted access to the Biden administration because they were the folks in power. They were sent the message that the one thing you don't write about is Biden being senile. That's a conspiracy theory.
Joe Getty
Stutter.
Jack Armstrong
You do that and you're on the outs. The New York Times told us it was a conspiracy theory to notice Biden's tendencies to stumble and verbally and physically. And we were told Biden's struggle to articulate his thoughts was merely a stutter, long dormant, but resurfaced just in time as a convenient explanation. And he quotes a bunch of the Guardian, Bloomberg News, just. The AP was stumped by polling data that showed voters believed Biden was too old for the job, but not Donald Trump, who's only three years younger. Quote, americans actually agree on something in this time of raw discord. Joe Biden is too old to be an effective president. Blah, blah, blah. It's oddly the note they noted. The public is oddly united in sizing up the one trait Biden cannot change. Yeah, that's because Americans have eyeballs. Anyway, so, Jack, I remember years ago, I think it was when Arnold Schwarzenegger was the governor of California. What? And as the leading lights.
Joe Getty
Are you sure about that?
Jack Armstrong
Yes. What?
Joe Getty
Arnold Schwarzenegger was the governor?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. The movie actor. The weightlifter yes, he was. I'm certain of it. But anyway, you know, we were fetid and invited to stuff and that sort of thing. And Jack, you made a comment about how you're really uneasy about being. I can't remember how you put it, but being seduced by the lure of being in the inside, sure, it's cool. It's cottered into cooperation.
Joe Getty
I was standing out on the patio at a hotel smoking a cigar with Arnold Schwarzenegger at one point. It is cool. It's a cool feeling. It makes you feel cool. It makes you feel like an insider. And do you want to say something negative that's going to end that? I'm more likely to than most people, but a lot of people would never do that.
Jack Armstrong
Right. And we talked about it and we decided, no, we're going to be the outsiders, which is why we are, which is fine. That's why, you know, a lot of government people hate us, but that's fine. It's badge of honor, honestly. So anyway, I thought that was pretty good analysis by Beckett Adams about how it was a combination of a bunch of cattle who don't think independently and just they're such ass kickers and bootlickers because they want to be close to power. Part of it is for access because then you can do better reporting.
Joe Getty
Sure.
Jack Armstrong
I mean, that's true.
Joe Getty
Yeah. It is a problem if, if Donald Trump says to Associated Press, for instance, I'm not going to let you on the plane if you're going to call it the Gulf of Mexico.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah.
Joe Getty
And you know, they can complain about that, but then what are they going to write about the presidency, which is a whole segment of the reporting because they have no access this.
Jack Armstrong
Right, right. So, and then you read Mark Lebovich's brilliant book this Town, if you haven't ever about how they're all part of the same industry and they know it, the media and the lobbyists and the politicians and the AIDS and the rest of it. Anyway, so I thought that was, that was really interesting. But then this Andrew Styles writing for the Free Beacon in his usual snarky style, which I really enjoy. Many have suspected the Dr. Jill Biden, not a real doctor, played a key role in saving the country by facilitating Donald Trump's long awaited return to the White House. His point of view obvious in this piece, but many have assumed the former first lady and acting president was possessed of an insatiable lust for power, which drove her to insist that her enfeebled husband run for reelection. And the ill Advised decision nearly destroyed the Democratic Party, et cetera, forced the party to rally around Kamala Harris, who just utterly incompetent and talentless. And then he goes through some of the accounts from the many tell all books that are now out and a couple of key quotes by now. I told journalists Jonathan Allen and Arnie Amy Parnes, sorry. Author of Fight Inside the Wildest Battle for the White House. Quote, let's be honest, Jill was 1,000% behind this. So she was pushing it. The staff was all pushing it. And at the end of the day, I don't think anyone, that inner circle was presenting the President any contrary advice that this is not going to be easier. Maybe this is not the best thing for the Democratic Party. So Dr. Jill was running the pro camp and the anti camp didn't really exist.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
And continuing on the theme of insiders and being close to power, Allen and Parnes note that many of Biden's longtime aides were also desperate to cling to power and refused to consider advising the President to retire after a single term. Quote, this is senior advisor Mike Donilon, who's a heavyweight in Democratic circles. Quote, nobody walks away from this. Nobody walks away from the House, the plane, the helicopter. This burning desire to retain the perks of the White House, the authors explained, was double true for the first lady. Dr. Jill had enjoyed them for nearly a decade, quote, and the trappings of the most elite levels of Washington power had grown on her. She likes power. She wants to say, set, stay, said Douglas Brinkley, the historian. She wants some sense of revenge.
Joe Getty
You know, I used to say for years, this is a bit of a tangent, but I used to say for years, I don't understand the whole power thing, people wanting power. I've never wanted power in my life. I've never felt like I lusted for power. Blah, blah, blah.
Jack Armstrong
I lust for it on a daily basis, moment to moment. Oh, my God. And I will wield it here with an iron fist.
Joe Getty
And I guess I didn't have the right perception of what power is. I was thinking of it as like being, you know, the power to pass a law. I mean, obviously a president has a power. You know, see Trump upend the world economy with the stroke of a pen. That is like, you know, very easy to understand power. But I've never understood the whole lust for power and everything like that. And this person explained to me how you have power, you have power and you like your power. And it is just, you know, it's more theoretical than real. But, like, to have some influence on the discussion of the world. And that's power. And this job ends for me. And the. One of the things that I will feel so empty about and weird about and I don't know how I'll adjust to is having no say in anything. Yeah, that's power. And so I guess I do have a lust for power because I don't want to give this up. I'll hate it when I have to give it up. And so having any influence on the world over anything, you know, whether it's your staff or the White House kitchen or who gets to play at the Kennedy center, if you're Jill Biden or, you know, the President, one's easy. But all this other stuff, I don't know, makes more sense to me now. And of course you wouldn't want to give that up. And so not only would the President and Jill Biden not want to give it up, if you're in the Biden administration and you tell him, I don't think you should run again, and he says, okay, you're out of a job. You no longer work in the White House. The coolest thing you'll ever do in your life, career wise, is now over. And you're going to go teach at a college somewhere or get a job with a law firm or something, but it ain't going to be anything near what you got. Now, who among us would. Would sign up for ending that? I mean, you got to be realistic.
Jack Armstrong
Pound the pavement to get some sort of dimwit elected in the 43rd district of Ohio, Right. Instead of being in the White House.
Joe Getty
So I'm cutting some slack to a lot of these people who are not wanting end their careers.
Jack Armstrong
Well, right. What this all boils down to to me is not like a moral judgment Exactly. And I agree 100%.
Joe Getty
The press is a different question. The media is a completely different question.
Jack Armstrong
Yes. Yeah. But again, to me, all of this does not boil down to a moral judgment, although there certainly can be one made, for instance, about clinging to power even when it could be devastating to the United States, like Dr. Jill here. It's helping people understand what quote unquote the government is. It's not what you read about in textbooks, although the civics education is really important. You have to understand that these people, from the Assistant under Secretary of Agriculture to Jill Biden to, to even guys like us, theoretically, although I want to talk about that more later, they are not looking out for you. They claim to be. They have a dozen ulterior motives which is why the founding papas, God bless their eternal wisdom, told us over and over again, we're designing a system to protect the people from the power of the government. Because you can't trust people who have power. You must watch them like a hawk all of the time. Because they will abuse their power, all of them, in ways small and large. Those who don't. Holy crap. That's great. It's an exception. But assume they will have selfish motives. That's the point of our country. That's my point in bringing this stuff up. It's okay to be suspicious of power. You're supposed to be. That's your job.
Joe Getty
So CNN is calling it the Edge of Space. The All Female Space Flight returns from the Edge of Space, which is much more accurate. Katy Perry did not go up into space. She just went really high. Somewhat higher than you've gone in a plane. Big deal.
Jack Armstrong
What? But what is it with you and this, this space flight in a gigantic vibrator? If you've not seen the picture of the rocket, as soon as you do, you'll understand.
Joe Getty
Gayle King should have rethought the whole kissing the ground thing. And good idea if you're young. Not so good idea if you're old. The video suck. Whoa. It takes her a long time to get down.
Jack Armstrong
Hold on a second.
Joe Getty
I'm going to go down.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. I'll be back. I can't criticize.
Joe Getty
Anyway, we got more on the way. A bunch of stuff. Stay here.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty.
Joe Getty
Education department has launched a website in which students can report public school teachers who violate anti DEI rules.
Jack Armstrong
So remember, teachers, you got to sleep.
Joe Getty
With the white ones, too. Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. That's a cynical joke there.
Joe Getty
I don't remember if you were here when we talked about this last week. The latest teacher. Oh, yeah, you were the latest teacher. Hottie who slept with a high school student. Did it at their house. Oh, my God, the poor husband.
Jack Armstrong
I was here all week, Jack, last week. Except for Friday when I was at Augusta National Golf Club. Yeah, so I was just looking on that next hour.
Joe Getty
I was just looking at a clip from that. What was the weather like?
Jack Armstrong
Idyllic.
Joe Getty
Fantastic. It's funny because my allergies are so bad. That's why I sound like this. I'm looking at that picture of the guy who won the Masters in the background and all I see all those things in bloom and I think, that looks awful. Just looks awful because of my allergies. It's funny how, you know, your body tries to. Your brain Tries to protect you from stuff that's trying to kill you. So over the weekend, me and both my boys, we were like, oh my God, look at that. You know, you see a bunch of flowers, it shouldn't be beautiful. It just looks like, oh, I'm nothing but negative reactions to those blooms because it seems to be trying to kill me.
Jack Armstrong
More on that experience next hour. There are some fairly interesting aspects of it, even if you're not a golf fan. In fact, I guarantee it.
Joe Getty
Here is. I am going to get to the story at some point because it came across this yesterday. It's a study. It's really kind of interesting why some people, most people watch TV shows or movies they've already seen. Again, why we do that. There's a psychological reason my dad doesn't. And it fits in perfect with the science on it. So maybe I'll try to get that into hour three. Listen to this headline from the New York Post. I haven't read the story. I probably should have because it sounds interesting. Decapitated woman's head successfully reattached after freak gym class accident.
Jack Armstrong
What?
Joe Getty
There's a lot there. First of all, what were you doing in gym class where you end up losing your knocking? We usually did like sit ups and push ups.
Jack Armstrong
Was there some school district in America where they're jousting outside on the football field, full on gallop on a stallion with the jousting lance?
Joe Getty
I don't know what they were doing where you could lose your head. We didn't do volleyball. I'm trying to think of anything we did in gym class where you could have your head. Head taken off.
Jack Armstrong
Really? Both ends of the story are fascinating. Some lost the head. Then you say it was reattached.
Joe Getty
Decapitated woman's head. This is the New York Post. Decapitated woman's head successfully reattached after freak gym class accident. I'm. I'm calling BS on this story, but I'll look into the details and get them for you later.
Jack Armstrong
Yes. I'm no surgeon, Jack. My understanding of head reattachment is that it's not quite ready for prime time.
Joe Getty
Zielinski was on 60 Minutes last night. Said some really interesting things. I don't know if it helped his cause any. Everything he said was true, in my opinion. And a lot of good stuff. As Joe said. Tales from the most exclusive sporting event in the world. Isn't it.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Gettysburg.
Armstrong & Getty On Demand: "We're Going Home, Honey!"
Release Date: April 14, 2025
Host: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty
Publisher: iHeartPodcasts
In the "We're Going Home, Honey!" episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve into a variety of pressing political and social issues. From exclusive insights about Bill Maher's unique dinner with Donald Trump to critical analyses of media groupthink surrounding President Joe Biden's health, the episode offers listeners a comprehensive look at the current American socio-political landscape. Additionally, the hosts weave in lighter segments featuring pop culture references and humorous anecdotes, ensuring a balanced and engaging discussion.
The episode opens with a discussion about comedian and HBO host Bill Maher's recent dinner with former President Donald Trump, organized by musician Kid Rock.
Bill Maher's Experience:
Maher recounts his dinner experience, highlighting a surprising level of civility and openness from Trump:
"At dinner, he was asking me about the nuclear situation in Iran in a very genuine, hey, I think you're a smart guy, I want your opinion sort of way. He didn't get mad or call me a left wing lunatic. He took it in."
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Maher emphasizes that, contrary to his public persona, Trump exhibited a capacity for genuine conversation and receptiveness to differing opinions during the private dinner.
Hosts' Commentary:
Armstrong and Getty reflect on the contrast between Trump's public image and his behavior in more intimate settings:
"Trump seems to have a front that's very different than how he's described by everybody who spent time with him."
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They discuss how Trump's ability to connect with people and listen contrasts with other powerful figures, including former presidents Clinton and Obama.
A significant portion of the episode critiques the mainstream media's portrayal of President Joe Biden's health, arguing that groupthink and lack of independent reporting have led to a skewed narrative.
Beckett Adams' Analysis:
The hosts reference Beckett Adams' insights on how media conglomerates have downplayed or ignored signs of Biden's declining health:
"The media's coverage of Biden's health was, 'all the worst parts of reporter brains coming together.'"
[21:29]
They argue that media outlets prioritize access to the administration over unbiased reporting, leading to a failure in holding leaders accountable.
Andrew Styles' Perspective:
Citing Andrew Styles from the Free Beacon, Armstrong and Getty discuss allegations surrounding Dr. Jill Biden's influence in President Biden's decision to run for re-election:
"Andrew Styles explains that Dr. Jill Biden was pivotal in facilitating Donald Trump's return to the White House, pushing her husband to run despite potential risks to the Democratic Party."
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The discussion touches on how insiders within the administration prioritize maintaining power over the nation's best interests.
Hosts' Reflections:
Joe Getty shares personal insights on the allure of power, contrasting his initial lack of desire for influence with the newfound understanding of its complexities:
"I guess I do have a lust for power because I don't want to give this up. I'll hate it when I have to give it up."
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Armstrong reinforces the theme by emphasizing skepticism towards those in power:
"You must watch them like a hawk all of the time. Because they will abuse their power, all of them, in ways small and large."
[31:20]
The hosts discuss the recent physical assessment of former President Donald Trump, presenting positive health indicators despite his age.
Health Highlights:
"Trump deemed in excellent health with robust neurological condition by the White House physician. His blood pressure clocked in at 128 over 74, and his resting heart rate is 62."
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They note Trump's significant weight loss since his first term, attributing his good health to genetics and lifestyle choices like not smoking.
Hosts' Commentary:
Armstrong expresses admiration for Trump's vitality:
"It's a gift."
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Getty adds a light-hearted perspective on Trump's health regimen:
"Don't smoke and have good genes. That's your best tips for being healthy late into age."
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The episode takes a humorous turn as the hosts play clips of Bernie Sanders repeatedly warning about the rise of oligarchy in the United States.
Sanders' Consistent Messaging:
Through a montage of Bernie Sanders' speeches from 1992 to 2017, the hosts highlight his long-standing concerns about oligarchical influence:
"This great country of ours is moving very rapidly in the direction of oligarchy."
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They poke fun at the repetitive nature of his warnings, underscoring the enduring nature of this political narrative.
To balance the heavy political discourse, Armstrong and Getty intersperse lighter segments addressing pop culture events and personal anecdotes.
Coachella and Security Hassles:
Discussing Bernie Sanders' appearance at Coachella, the hosts humorously lament the prolonged security checks:
"12 hours in line to get into 102 Degree Music Festival. Man, that's a long time."
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Katy Perry's Space Flight Misrepresentation:
They critique media inaccuracies in reporting Katy Perry's recent space flight, emphasizing the misrepresentation of her actual experience:
"CNN is calling it the Edge of Space. Katy Perry did not go up into space. She just went really high."
[31:20]
Gym Class Mishaps:
A humorous exchange about a bizarre New York Post headline regarding a decapitation accident in gym class showcases the hosts' playful banter:
"Decapitated woman's head successfully reattached after freak gym class accident. I'm calling BS on this story."
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Armstrong and Getty delve into an analysis inspired by Justin Leihart of the Wall Street Journal on the decline of the United States as a manufacturing powerhouse.
Historical Context:
They trace the reduction of manufacturing jobs from 35% of the private sector in the 1950s to approximately 9.5% today, attributing this shift to globalization and policy decisions like NAFTA:
"President Trump says the sweeping tariffs are aimed at bringing manufacturing back to the US. Economists are skeptical that tariffs could do that successfully."
[11:14]
Impact of Globalization:
The hosts discuss how the rise of countries like South Korea and especially China, which surpassed the US in goods exports by 2008, has drastically altered the manufacturing landscape:
"In 1999, the value of Chinese goods exports came to a tenth of the US's exports. Nine years later, China surpassed us as an exporter of goods."
[16:54]
They highlight the challenges faced by American manufacturers in competing with lower labor costs abroad, emphasizing the enormity of the "China shock."
Wrapping up the episode, Armstrong and Getty reiterate the importance of vigilance against the abuse of power and the necessity for independent media to hold leaders accountable. They advocate for skepticism towards those in authority, aligning with the founding principles of American governance aimed at protecting citizens from governmental overreach.
"Assume they will have selfish motives. That's the point of our country."
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The hosts encourage listeners to remain informed and critical, emphasizing that understanding the motivations behind those in power is crucial for a functioning democracy.
Civility Across the Aisle: Bill Maher's dinner with Trump showcased a side of political figures that contrasts sharply with their public personas, highlighting the potential for constructive dialogue.
Media Accountability: The episode underscores concerns about media groupthink and the lack of independent reporting, particularly regarding President Biden's health, advocating for a more discerning consumption of news.
Economic Shifts: A detailed examination of the decline in US manufacturing emphasizes the profound impact of globalization and policy decisions on the American economy.
Power Dynamics: The discussion on power lust among political insiders serves as a cautionary tale about the dangers of unchecked authority and the erosion of democratic principles.
Balancing Topics: By weaving in pop culture and humorous segments, Armstrong and Getty maintain an engaging tone while addressing serious issues.
Bill Maher on Trump's Openness:
"At dinner, he was asking me about the nuclear situation in Iran in a very genuine, hey, I think you're a smart guy, I want your opinion sort of way. He didn't get mad or call me a left wing lunatic."
[00:24]
Armstrong on Media Herd Mentality:
"The media's coverage of Biden's health was, 'all the worst parts of reporter brains coming together.'"
[21:29]
Getty on Lust for Power:
"I guess I do have a lust for power because I don't want to give this up. I'll hate it when I have to give it up."
[27:35]
Armstrong on Government Power Abuse:
"You must watch them like a hawk all of the time. Because they will abuse their power, all of them, in ways small and large."
[31:20]
Maher's Observation of Trump's Listening Skills:
"I never felt I had to walk on eggshells around him. And honestly, I voted for Clinton and Obama, but I would never feel comfortable talking to them the way I was able to talk with Donald Trump."
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Stay tuned for more insightful discussions and in-depth analyses in future episodes of Armstrong & Getty On Demand.