Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: We're Going To Make People Vomit If We Don't Stop
Date: September 26, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Production: iHeartPodcasts

Episode Overview

This episode dives into the seismic news of former FBI Director James Comey’s indictment for perjury and obstruction. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty explore the political blowback, the credibility and specifics of the charges, the broader context of "lawfare" in American politics, and how the media is reacting along partisan lines. The hosts then transition to discuss educational achievement and reform in the U.S. South, and end with rapid-fire topics including cultural fragmentation, the AI investment boom, charter schools, and even the economics of Britain. Throughout, Armstrong and Getty provide their signature biting commentary, skepticism, and banter.

Main Topics & Key Insights

1. The James Comey Indictment (03:03–16:04)

Details of the Indictment

• Jack introduces breaking news: James Comey, former FBI Director, has been indicted for obstruction of justice and making false statements. (03:03)
• Joe contextualizes: First ever indictment of an FBI director, raising questions of politicization, Trump’s involvement, and media hysteria.
• Media coverage varies wildly, with MSNBC calling it “the worst abuse in Department of Justice history” and Fox News downplaying the story. (04:08–04:40)

Legal Analysis & Political Theater

• The episode features analysis from legal expert Jonathan Turley:
  • Turley calls the event “seismic” but notes perjury cases are “not easy matters because they can be subject to interpretation. Comey’s a very clever person.” (08:07, 08:47)
• Andrew McCarthy, a conservative legal writer, is quoted criticizing the indictment as "an illegal mess"—the wording is unclear, and essential facts are missing. (09:03–09:41)

Comey’s Public Defense

• James Comey’s Instagram statements are dissected for tone and self-dramatization.
  • Quote: “We will not live on our knees. And you shouldn’t either.” (Comey via Instagram, 13:42)
  • Jack: “Could he be more dramatic and pompous?” (14:28)
  • Joe: “Can you tone down the I'm Jesus on the cross thing just a little bit?” (14:35)
  • Comey asserts, “I have great confidence in the federal judicial system and I'm innocent. So let's have a trial and keep the faith.” (Comey via Instagram, 14:49)

Hosts’ Key Takeaways

• Both hosts express intense skepticism of Comey’s character and actions.
  • Jack: “He thinks he is the one arbiter of what is true and good … he can go outside the norms because he knows what's good.” (15:06)
  • Joe: “He's far more enlightened than those simple men who made the rules.” (15:41)
• They question the legitimacy of "lawfare":
  • “It seems to me classic lawfare, which is going on here. … The whole lawfare thing is often just to make your life miserable.” (Jack, 12:44)

2. Media, Politics, and American Fragmentation (21:09–23:19)

Fragmented Pop Culture

• Discussion springs from People’s "Sexiest Man Alive" poll and how, in the current era, there's no longer a single American pop-culture conversation.
  • Jack: “It wasn't that many years ago that whoever won, everybody in the country knew who that person was. Now ... there's divided into so many different categories.” (22:47)
• Joe and Jack reflect on the loss of shared experiences, referencing Rob Reiner’s musings about the days when “a quarter of the country” would all watch the same TV show at the same time. (21:37)

3. Educational Reform and Charter Schools (28:59–38:46)

Britain & U.S. Economic Comparison

• Jack shares a data point: “Britain is poorer than all 50 US states in terms of individual quality of life.” (28:59)

Mississippi Miracle & Southern Education Reform

• Mississipi's dramatic improvement in 4th-grade reading (from 49th to 9th) is celebrated as the "Mississippi Miracle." (29:19)
  • Key: Focus on core academics, intensive tutoring for struggling students, no teachers unions to "gum up the works." (31:26, 32:29)
  • Joe: “We are going to teach kids core academic topics entirely and nothing but that ... and it's working beautifully because of course it effing is. Pardon me.” (31:26)

Charter Schools and Equity Politics

• Critique of progressive resistance to educational redshirting and charter schools:
  • Joe: “You can't hold your son out even though he's completely not ready because that would be inequitable ... some parents can't do that.” (34:42)
  • Jack: “You want your schools to be like the DMV?” (32:51)
• They argue teachers' unions and equity politics frequently prevent effective reforms, even where charter schools produce “vastly better” outcomes. (36:02–38:46)
  • Jack: “That might be the main tenet of socialism and communism. That person over there doing well somehow is damaging me. Let's make sure they don’t do well. Crazy.” (37:08)

4. Quick Hits & Lighter Segments

Online Dating Goes Billboard (27:06–28:59)

• Trio discusses the story of a woman advertising her dating website on billboards and debate whether desperation signals “crazy vibes.”
  • Jack: “It reeks of desperation.” (28:17)

New Words, Longevity, and Medical Progress (43:52–45:59)

• Merriam-Webster’s 12th edition adds 5,000 new words.
  • Jack: “I'm calling for a moratorium on new words.” (44:19)
• World’s oldest woman’s last words: “Study me.” Spark discussion of longevity research, advances in medicine, and whether we’d trade places with someone in 1950. (44:22–45:59)

The AI Boom: Investment and Skepticism (46:17–48:14)

• Tech giants are spending hundreds of billions on AI.
  • Joe: “There are some very, very learned people who are like, ‘I don't think this is going to pan out.’ Again, I have no opinion ... but it'll be interesting to see play out.” (47:38)

NFL Banter (40:23–40:44)

• Brief discussion of late-game comebacks in NFL football.

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Comey’s indictment:
  • Jack: “He probably got Trump elected in 2016 when he announced ... I've reopened the case with Hillary Clinton.” (03:03)
  • Joe: “Describing this as lawlessness. Trying to enforce the law is kind of funny.” (04:40)
  • Jonathan Turley: “It is a seismic event. … but this could be a perjury case as opposed to a leak case.” (08:07)
• On lawfare as political weapon:
  • Jack: “The whole lawfare thing is often just to make your life miserable ... exactly what they did to Donald Trump for years.” (12:44)
• On Comey's self-defensive rhetoric:
  • Comey (Instagram): “We will not live on our knees. And you shouldn’t either.” (13:42)
  • Joe: "Can you tone down the I'm Jesus on the cross thing just a little bit?” (14:35)
  • Jack: “He makes people vomit. He is so hard to take.” (15:53)
• On education reform:
  • Joe: “Can you believe we let the insane people run education for as long as we did?” (32:29)
  • Jack: “If we were starting from scratch and somebody was proposing the government run schools, I would be saying, oh, you want your schools to be like the DMV?” (32:51)
• On cultural fragmentation:
  • Jack: “It wasn't that many years ago that whoever won, everybody in the country knew who that person was. Now ... there's divided into so many different categories.” (22:47)

Key Timestamps

• James Comey indictment coverage: 03:03–16:04
• Pop culture fragmentation/“Sexiest Man Alive”/Rob Reiner: 21:09–23:19
• Billboard dating story: 27:06–28:59
• US/UK wealth comparison & “Mississippi Miracle”: 28:59–31:26
• Charter schools, education politics, and union critique: 36:02–38:46
• NFL late-game commentary: 40:23–40:44
• Dictionary/“riz”, longevity, medical progress: 43:52–45:59
• AI boom segment: 46:17–48:14

Tone & Language Notes

• The hosts stick closely to their trademark style: irreverent, skeptical, mocking both political sides but especially self-serious figures like James Comey and bureaucrats.
• There is a mix of sharp commentary, pop-culture references, and moments of genuine outrage—especially regarding education and political hypocrisy.
• Even while lambasting political opponents or media, Armstrong & Getty apply self-awareness and a sense of humor, keeping the show energetic and conversational.

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