We're Scroomed!

Summary

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Armstrong & Getty On Demand – "We're Scroomed!"

Date: October 8, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Podcast: Armstrong & Getty On Demand (iHeartPodcasts)

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

In this episode titled "We're Scroomed!", Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty deliver their signature blend of sharp political commentary, sardonic humor, and spirited debate. The main theme is a deepening concern about societal polarization, pervasive media dishonesty, and the collapse of common civic moorings, all of which have left the hosts feeling "screwed and doomed"—or as they coin it, "scroomed." From high-profile political scandals to the dangers of AI-driven misinformation and open calls for political violence, this episode tackles the breakdown of shared reality in America.

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS & INSIGHTS

1. Media Dishonesty & Polarization

Timestamps: 01:50–06:09

• The hosts begin by highlighting what they see as outright lies in mainstream news, particularly about government workers during shutdowns.

• Joe Getty rails against media coverage suggesting air traffic controllers are working without pay, calling it a "flat out lie."

• Jack Armstrong points out that public opinion polls often reflect shallow, uninformed views—easily swayed by media spin due to brief, one-sided information flows.

  "I used to think spin was a problem. Now people just tell outright untruths right under the banner Major Bigfoot Media."
  —Jack Armstrong (02:25)

• The duo laments the near-total fragmentation in news consumption: different factions get different versions of the same story with barely any overlap.

2. Society's Broken Feeling

Timestamps: 10:25–11:36

• Repeated references to a broader societal malaise—everything feels "unmoored" and "broken."

• The loss of traditional anchors (friends, family, civic engagement) and rise of an all-consuming online world are blamed for growing anxiety.

  "Everything feels like, ah, broken. Everything’s just broken."
  —Joe Getty (11:09)

3. Antisemitic Rhetoric at Pro-Hamas Rallies

Timestamps: 06:47–13:17

• The hosts are appalled by the lack of substantive mainstream media coverage of openly antisemitic, pro-Hamas rallies—especially near the anniversary of the October 7 attacks.

• Jack describes “amazing clips from idiots at those rallies,” which the New York Times, in his view, conspicuously ignores.

• They play clips of a protester openly referencing Nazi rhetoric.

  "If a right winger was saying that, off the charts news."
  —Jack Armstrong (12:58)

• Point made that hatred is normalized from some quarters, but sensationalized or condemned only when politically convenient.

4. Political Violence, Hypocrisy, and the Case of Jay Jones

Timestamps: 09:37–11:09, 20:03–27:34

• Focus on Jay Jones, Virginia AG candidate, whose texts and calls included wishing for political opponents' children to die so they would "feel pain."

• Excerpts are read from news coverage and National Review’s Jeff Blair, who brands Jones a “moral monster of the first degree.”

• The Democratic Party’s tepid response (“he apologized, so it’s fine”) is seen as pure partisan power calculation.

• The duo argues if a GOP candidate had done the same, the media’s reaction would be relentless and intense.

  "He made a passionate appeal to a bleak moral worldview that, alarmingly, is consistent with other rhetoric and violent slaughter we've seen coming from the left in recent months and weeks. And he wants to be the attorney general of the state of Virginia. Let the voters decide."
  —Jack Armstrong (26:49)

5. The Dangers of AI-Generated Misinformation

Timestamps: 27:34–32:46

• Jack unveils his early access to Sora, an “all-AI” social media/video platform. The content is nearly indistinguishable from reality, including deepfake speeches.

• Both hosts are alarmed; there’s concern that convincing fake videos (e.g., of Trump declaring war, or candidates caught in scandals) could be weaponized during elections.

• They discuss how this technological step means anyone can deny reality or allege damning evidence is "just AI."

  “So like I said, we’re there. We’re wondering when we would get there. We’re there.”
  —Joe Getty (30:09)

  "What percentage of the population… could see a video of, say, Donald Trump saying we’re canceling the next election and be fooled by it? It’s a sizable percentage."
  —Jack Armstrong (31:43)

6. Humor, Banter & Memorable Moments

Timestamps: Throughout, highlights at 11:55–12:07, 15:01–15:57

• The show’s trademark absurd sidebars—a running joke about a camel in the studio and what to feed it (“baked beans did not work out well”—13:39).

• Light mocking of “baseball terminology,” and the knowledge gap about gubernatorial hopefuls.

  "Reminding casual baseball fans that the so-called foul pole was actually in fair territory. You hit the pole, it’s a home run."
  —Jack Armstrong (05:19)

7. Mailbag & Listener Reactions

Timestamps: 35:13–39:46

• Feedback includes joking accusations at Jack for liking Taylor Swift and for “not grilling like a man.”
• Listeners echo anxieties about AI, misinformation, Trump-era hatred, and connect these trends to the hosts' core concerns—how many now accept “Hitler” analogies literally, and what that portends for real world violence.

8. Wrap-up & Teasers

Timestamps: 39:57–40:07

• Tease for Hour 2: more on nutjobs at protests and how the "major media beclowns itself."

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MEMORABLE QUOTES & MOMENTS

• “We’re screwed and doomed. We’re scroomed.”
  — Jack Armstrong (05:06)

• "How do you think Jews start owning everything? I don't know, they use their dark magic I guess...I would like to have some magic, but I don't feel like I have any magic."
  — Clip from pro-Hamas protester (12:07) (highlighted with aghast reactions from hosts)

• "These are Jones’s thoughts, near verbatim, mind you, not mine... He made a passionate appeal to a bleak moral worldview that, alarmingly, is consistent with other rhetoric and violent slaughter we have seen coming from the left in recent months and weeks."
  — Jack Armstrong on Jay Jones (26:49)

• "Everything feels like, ah, broken. Everything's just broken."
  — Joe Getty (11:09)

• "It will get harder to see reality because crap in equals crap out."
  — Listener mail read by Jack, on the AI/social media future (36:34)

• "What percentage of the population do you think at this point just in the US could see a video of, say, Donald Trump saying we're canceling the next election and be fooled by it? It's a sizable percentage."
  — Jack Armstrong (31:43)

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TIMESTAMPS – IMPORTANT SEGMENTS

| Segment | Start | End | |-------------------------------------------------------|----------|----------| | Media dishonesty and political polling | 01:50 | 04:58 | | Two realities in news algorithms/polarization | 04:15 | 06:09 | | Antisemitic rhetoric at protests and media silence | 06:47 | 09:37 | | Political violence, Jay Jones scandal | 20:03 | 27:34 | | AI deepfakes and the collapse of trust | 27:34 | 32:46 | | Mailbag on extremism, AI, and internet culture | 35:13 | 39:46 |

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TONE & STYLE

• Language: Informal, sardonic, occasionally biting.
• Tone: Frustrated, darkly comedic, alarmist but self-aware, mixing earnest concern with off-the-cuff banter.

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FOR FIRST-TIME LISTENERS

This episode is a classic example of Armstrong & Getty’s take-no-prisoners approach to media criticism and cultural analysis. They expertly blend humor with outrage as they diagnose what they see as the fraying of American civic life—from unfiltered antisemitic hate going ignored, to leading political figures normalizing threats and violence, and the looming specter of AI eroding trust in all media. It's insightful, provocative, and peppered with the hosts’ uniquely irrepressible style.

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Transcript

[Narrator]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio.

[Commercial Announcer]

Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here I'm strong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Oh boy. My least favorite day because there's a camel in the studio.

[Jack Armstrong]

Live from Studio C, the Z Senior.

[Joe Getty]

A dimly lit room deeper than the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound. And hey, today we're under the tutelage.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of our general manager, Pam Bondi, America's toughest middle aged hottie.

[Joe Getty]

There you go, cuz. She was what? Fired? Stood strong against questions in the meaningless hearing yesterday.

[Jack Armstrong]

She stood tall against the onslaught of bitter false accusations and the true ones from. From Democrats, by God, standing up for all that is good and right.

[Joe Getty]

Speaking of good and right, you know who I would tip my hat to is those air traffic controllers that are going to work without pay, struggling to make their rent and their house payments and childcare and putting food on the table when they've got no money, despite the fact that they haven't missed a single freaking penny yet. I told you yesterday morning that all day long the news coverage is going to be about how they've missed their, their, their won't go to work because they don't have any money. And they interviewed all these different air traffic controls. I have child care, I have rent. Nobody has missed a single cent. And the media pretends that's not true.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, I remember spin. I used to think spin was a problem. Now people just tell outright untruths right under the banner Major Bigfoot Media.

[Joe Getty]

The definition of spin is it's not a lie. But it's not the whole truth. It's just a lie to say that government workers are staying home because they haven't. They aren't getting paid. I'm working without pay. I don't know how many people I heard say that. No, you're not. No, you're not. Your paycheck comes out next week. If the shutdown's still going on, then you'll Miss part of your paycheck and then you'll get it back at the end. But you're not working out without pay right now that's just a flat out lie. And it's the number one story I've seen on every newscast today. Burbank Airport yesterday. Airport. I'm very familiar with flying in and out of all kinds of flights canceled because these, these air traffic controls are. Would you work without pay? They're not working without pay. Stop saying that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right. There was another story, I'll dig it up, where there was an overwhelming result in public opinion polling. And but if people got 60 seconds of information about the issue, a huge percentage of them switched. And so you look at various poll numbers about the shutdown or the Obamacare subsidies or whatever, what you never see is the enormous number of people who aren't really paying attention and don't really know what they're talking about. So yeah, it's easy to sway the masses with this sort of one sided, completely dishonest the coverage. But don't look at opinion polls and think, wow, these are people with firmly grounded and carefully researched opinions and man, do they have a stance. No, they're just like, wait, what? Oh, the shutdown. No, I'm against it. I guess Republicans are at fault. Okay. I mean it goes that deep, but only that deep.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So there's so much dishonesty.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And then you have the other problem in this. I'm not going to go off on this because we've talked it to death and we all know it's true, the media bubbles, blah blah, blah, algorithms. But like this whole Portland story for instance, it's as if there are two stories going on and one of them is for one crowd to get some media for one place and another stories for another crowd to get and they don't. And they're barely like the circles in a Venn diagram. There's very little overlap other than like the town we're talking about. There's almost no overlap in the, in the story coverage. So if you're talking to somebody who's news flow and algorithms lean the other direction, you can't even have a conversation.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right. I don't know what we do with that. Invading peaceful cities.

[Joe Getty]

That's probably going to become the norm with all stories, I suppose.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're screwed and doomed. We're screwed.

[Joe Getty]

Absolutely. Sept. Aaron Judge hit a giant home run to bring the Yankees back last night from death's door. And that's now series is now 21.

[Jack Armstrong]

Banged it off the fair pole.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Reminding casual baseball fans that the so called foul pole was actually in fair territory. You hit the pole. It's a home run.

[Joe Getty]

I didn't know that was a home run.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hit the pole. Round tripper, four.

[Joe Getty]

Bagger went yard.

[Jack Armstrong]

That ball is not playable.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly.

[Jack Armstrong]

The giant Aaron Judge. Yes.

[Joe Getty]

7Ft 6, 500 pounds.

[Jack Armstrong]

Correct. Body fat 3%.

[Joe Getty]

That's a very large man. James Comey is gonna be in court today. So this isn't televised hilarity though, right? This is like actual court proceedings. This isn't the nonsense of like those hearings like that were going on yesterday where there's no real skin in the game and it's all a joke. This is actual court proceedings in the Justice Department.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, right. It's a. I don't know. I thought it was a hearing, but I, I don't, I don't know. Is it an affidavit? They take an affidavit. I'll have to look it up.

[Joe Getty]

But you know, it's the whole he lied under oath thingy that even all my conservative legal friends seem to think is not going to work.

[Jack Armstrong]

But no, it's just too hard to prove the charge. I mean, he certainly did lie.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, he's full of crap. Absolutely. He also 7 foot 6, but 105 pounds, very thin.

[Jack Armstrong]

And. And his hubris percentage is 80%. You know, it's funny, I wasted a fair amount of time before the show today. Let me preface this by saying that there were a number of, and I don't know what the number was, it was a large number of pro Hamas rallies yesterday on October 7, the second anniversary of the horrific, brutal, torturous, rapey, murderous, savage attack.

[Joe Getty]

We've got some amazing clips from idiots from those rallies, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

And I know at least a few of those rallies were in and around New York City. And I spent a long time scraping through the New York Times website trying to find coverage of those rallies. Couldn't find it. Now, maybe I didn't dig long and deep enough, but I dug pretty long and deep and went past a hell of a lot of coverage of a hell of a lot of stories and a hell of a lot of opinion pieces about this or that. You have groups vowing more 10/7 over and over again, talking openly about the evil Jews, just open bigotry, hatred, calling for war and death. If that had been three blanking white supremacist inbred jackasses, the New York Times would have led with it. But the pro Islamic Supremacist crowd, the anti semi crowd. Now they're not worth covering.

[Joe Getty]

You're right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nothing to see here.

[Joe Getty]

Joe Biden said the ran here. The reason he ran for president is when he saw that stuff from Charlottesville, I looked in their eyes, the hate. I just thought, I can't let this country become that. It was like a half dozen idiots. And you got people coast to coast saying the same thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. What's really odd about it is, yeah, they're saying virtually the same thing about the Jews. But no, no, no, this, this one's okay. This one's okay because it's the Palestinians. I am hypocrites, liars, you know. Yeah, okay, enough.

[Joe Getty]

We'll play some clips from the, the dumbest of the people that we're at these pro Palestine, pro Hamas protests coming up. It's absolutely amazing. I mean it's just stunning. Hanson and I both had the problem last night as we were going through the very long clip of Is this real? This guy can't be real. But it becomes clear it's real.

[Jack Armstrong]

Combination of stupidity and ignorance, which are different things. Yeah, but it's striking. Yeah, but. But utterly vehement.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Angry, ready to take up arms on their completely either asinine or horribly ill informed worldview or at the very least politically support violence.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah, yeah. And more is coming up. Coming out rather on that piece of crap who's running for attorney General in Virginia. Jones. J. Jones. He's a worse guy than I thought. We've just scratched the surface yesterday talking about this. This sicko.

[Joe Getty]

We should do that again. Maybe at the bottom of this hour for people who haven't heard it because it's something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. There are significant forces on the left that are openly pro political violence and they will say so, then they will deny it and you know, the aforementioned bigfoot media will shuffle their feet and say there's nothing to see here, really. Republicans pounced as blah blah, blah, if they cover it at all. But yeah, there are open calls for political violence on the left.

[Joe Getty]

I don't want to get bogged down in this. Maybe we'll talk about it later. But just I think it's a common feeling that people have of just like unmoored or broken or whatever, that nothing is like it used to be and it's been that way for a while now. And I wonder how much of that, you know, because our politics got pretty that way prior to Covid and then wokeism came along and George Floyd didn't really have anything to do with COVID Although Covid played a role in that they were allowed to march and nobody else was. But anyway. But then Covid, which was unlike anything of a. In it, but anyway, everything feels like, ah, broken. Everything's just broken.

[Jack Armstrong]

My heart is broken. Well, James Comey's heart, for instance. Yes, yes. Well. And I would point out also that the things that tended to keep us moored, friends, family, civic engagement, that sort of thing is going away because of the omnipresence of the online world. That's weird.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, I can understand how people have anxiety. Sure. So much anxious things going on. Anyway, we should start the show officially. Thank you, James Comey keep.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God, he's such a hero.

[Joe Getty]

He's not gonna live on his knees. And you shouldn't either. That's what I.

[Jack Armstrong]

Has anybody ever been sainted while they were still alive? Because I have a nominee, but I'm not afraid. So let's have a trial.

[Joe Getty]

There you go. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Jo Getti on this. It is hump day. We have a Camel in the studio.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's horrible.

[Joe Getty]

October 8th, the year 2025, or Armstrong and Getty. And we approve of this program.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's begin then, officially, according to FCC rules and regulations. Here we go. Come on now. Let's get it on at mark.

[Joe Getty]

How do you think. How do you think that happened? How did Jews start owning everything? I don't know. They use their dark magic, I guess. Like, I'm Jewish and I would like to have some magic, but I don't feel like I have any magic. How do you think I can access this dark magic? I don't know if you're maybe using your magic on me right now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, Lord.

[Joe Getty]

Is this pro Hamas protester? We got to play more of it. It's just unbelievable. Yeah, but the Jews own everything. Jews are behind all the bad things are happening. And all the Jews need to go away and they need to be killed. They need to be put in ovens. Even gets into. We could use ovens at fast food places to put the Jews in.

[Jack Armstrong]

Great.

[Joe Getty]

Again, like you said earlier, he's talking about that out loud. It's just like, isn't that funny guy talking about put Jews in the ovens? If a right winger was saying that, off the charts news.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I tell you, you know, I don't want to be a complete downer today. I swear I don't. But if a stupid, ignorant people person kills you, you're just as dead and you know. On a lighter note, he cancels my votes.

[Joe Getty]

We have a stupid ignorant person who wanted people dead that got caught in a in a violent government plot yesterday with 200 bombs. We got to get to that story. That is. That is something else. I made them. I don't know what you feed a camel. I should have chat GPT it but I brought in baked beans last week. I thought maybe camels like baked beans and it did not work out well.

[Jack Armstrong]

Explosive. Just unimaginable.

[Joe Getty]

This week I brought a bale of hay which seems better than baked beans. I don't know. We got Katie's headlines on the way. Stay here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

We have a lot of good audio today. So the leading candidate for governor in California. Name who? I didn't even know her name and I live in California.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is it a Republican or Democrat? Gotcha.

[Joe Getty]

That is pretty funny. California gubernatorial hopeful Katie Porter. I've heard the name, but I don't know anything about her. She. She had a disastrous interview yesterday that is gone viral and we'll play clips of that a little bit later given.

[News Reporter]

Katie's a bad name.

[Jack Armstrong]

Dragging down, you know, the average Katie rating in America. That's right. Terrible. Hey, there's a lot to get to today. Let's figure out who's reporting what. It's lead story with Katie Green.

[News Reporter]

Katie, from the Washington Post. Senior US Officials join Gaza ceasefire talks as momentum builds for peace.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

So Jared Kushner and Weiss cough. I guess they aren't leaving. They say they're not leaving until a deal is signed. They're staying however long, however many days it takes.

[Jack Armstrong]

I still hate their chances to get past square one or two.

[Joe Getty]

But you don't think they'll get something signed. I assume something will be signed.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's square one. And square two is like the preliminary face. After that it goes haywire, I would guess. But again, I'm not rooting for that. I'm rooting for exactly the opposite. But man, that's a tough road ahead.

[News Reporter]

From NBC, Comey is charged with lying to Congress, which he denies.

[Joe Getty]

We'll see how that turns out. Oh my God. And if, if there is not enough evidence to convict him, which even conservative legal pundits say is true, he's gonna go so full martyr, standing up for all that is good. Write a book, go on. He'll be on the View and Jimmy Kimmel and oh, it's going to be hard to take.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, he'll be re embraced by the left. In a disgusting boot licking display of shifting loyalties.

[News Reporter]

From ABC News, Trump signals optimism about U.S. canada Trade Agreement, saying, quote, we've come a long way, you know, back.

[Joe Getty]

To the last story, you know, that people regularly say I throw up in my mouth a little bit. That phrase, I really did.

[Jack Armstrong]

On the.

[Joe Getty]

I can picture James Comey on Jimmy Kimmel and the standing ovation he gets when he walks out. And just the.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't, can we talk about gardening or sports or something? It's just, oh, it's so gross. So gross.

[News Reporter]

From breitbart.com ICE arrests 91 illegal immigrant semi truck drivers in licensing crackdown.

[Joe Getty]

That whole licensing truckers thing has turned out to be quite the scandal. It's not surprising. I mean, you got people who don't speak a lick of English. How did you pass any tests in the United States of America?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? You can't read the road signs. You fail. If somebody gives you the test retroactively, you fail.

[Joe Getty]

All these different companies were hiring because they can pay them so much less and give them so many fewer benefits. Hiring illegals for probably for decades.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it was a combination of blue states that just believed no human being is illegal and red states just really needed truckers who are like, yeah, let's not worry about it. They're already doing the construction and packing of meat. We'll have them drive the trucks.

[News Reporter]

And finally from the Babylon Bee, Chicago mayor hoping his ice free zones work out better than his gun free zones.

[Jack Armstrong]

I like it. Oh, that blow landed. Oof.

[Joe Getty]

So there's this whack job politician out there that is making like serious out loud violent threats against his opponent, like, I want him dead. That sort of thing and Democrats are standing behind him, which is amazing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yep, yep. Jay Jones of Virginia. Name that should live in infamy.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, if you haven't heard this story.

[Jack Armstrong]

It'S worth sticking around from.

[Joe Getty]

And then we got some great audio from crazy people at the protests yesterday, which would be a lot more fun if there weren't so many of them and they weren't so dangerous. Anyway, we got a lot of good stuff on the way. If you missed the segment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand Armstrong.

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[News Reporter]

The Washington Post confirms Jay Jones sent texts that imagined shooting the Republican speaker of the House. Jay Jones wished the Speaker's wife could watch her own child die in her arms. It's so disgusting. It's hard to believe, but it's true.

[Joe Getty]

You know, I hear that and I, I would think if that is like provable, well then obviously that person has to get out of the race. I mean, there's just no.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yeah, yeah, clearly. So. But no, the Democratic Party is embracing Jay Jones because he apologized or something or took full responsibility or something. So Jones is running for attorney General in Virginia, trying to take back the state after Glenn Youngkin and moderate Republicans like the current AG took over the state in, in the last elections. And it's worth contemplating for a second. We're talking about the attorney general. We're talking about the top law enforcement officer in the state of Virginia.

[Joe Getty]

So it's not just like an assembly member or something, or a recorder of.

[Jack Armstrong]

Deeds or like the environmental director. No, this guy is running to be the top law enforcement officer in Virginia. And as Jeff Blair in the National Review put in, I thought this was great. He's also a moral monster of the first degree. And it all goes back to, among other things, texts and phone calls he had with a state Republican delegate back in 2022. His friendly chit chat about how his opponents should go, how he would like to see them die and, quote, go to their funerals and piss on their graves to send them out awash in something was, was rude, obviously. Blair actually points out that something like Lyndon Johnson might say, though, it's, it's nasty, but if that's it, you know, okay. But it was then that he started to muse out loud to Ms. Coiner, that's Kerry Coiner. That's the person he was talking to that he, he declared if he was trapped in a room with a gun and two bullets alongside Hitler, Pol Pot, and Todd Gilbert, who is the Republican speaker of the State House, he would shoot Gilbert twice. It's an old and cruel joke, but oh my God, during this era of assassination attempts and violence and stuff, it's terrible, but, and here's the part that, that I should have emphasized more yesterday when we talked about this late in the show when she said, hey, that's not funny, you need to stop. He called her and explained himself all too clearly. And it, it, and she says it was utterly clear he was not kidding. And he was not kidding on the square where you're joking but not really joking. No, he was adamant. He was making an impassioned argument in defense of killing people. He said he thought at least some Republicans deserved to die for their politics and he extended that wish to their children as well. According to the source, the Democratic. I'm quoting the news story now. Former legislator doubled down on the call saying the only way public policy changes is when policymakers feel pain themselves, like the pain that parents feel when they watch their children die from gun violence. He asked her to provide a counterexample to disprove his claim. Then at that point, he suggested he wished Gilbert's wife could watch her own child die in her arms so that Gilbert might reconsider his political views. Coiner hung up the phone in disgust.

[Joe Getty]

If you say that stuff seriously, you're a crazy person. Now you say it jokingly. You have pretty out there jokes as a politician in the current climate, but I could see doing it especially in private. But if you got called on it, it'd be like, well, no, you know, I'm kidding, obviously, but I hate the guy. You'd say something like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

But he didn't, right? He said, no, no, no. I mean it. Well, yeah. And Coiner called him on it one more time, and he said, yes, I've told you this before. Only when people feel pain personally do they move on policy.

[Joe Getty]

And then, of course, the punchline being Democrats in Virginia are standing by the guy. He's expressed remorse and he apologized, so I'm fine with him.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Oh, he also. He. He threw in at one point that. That he was justified in his desire to see a mother punished for her politics by the death of her children because they're just breeding little fascists anyway.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Talking about the Republican fella and their two beautiful small children. I hadn't heard that one. Yeah. Can you imagine this moral monster being the top cop in Virginia? It's disgusting.

[Joe Getty]

And I hate to even do this. I hate to waste my. This next sentence. My precious, precious breaths. You know, I've only got so many.

[Jack Armstrong]

Left right at this point in my life. Not many looking at you.

[Joe Getty]

But if somebody running in a red state for Republican Party said the same thing, the media would be going crazy. It'd be the only story they're covering.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Until he finally backed out of the race.

[Jack Armstrong]

But it's quite possible that if you're.

[Joe Getty]

A Democrat or you take in mainstream media. Haven't heard this story at all because.

[Jack Armstrong]

I haven't seen it most places. No, no, it's. It's. They've touched on it in some of the Bigfoot media, mostly under the banner of Republicans pounce and accuse Jay Jones of. Right, right. Of course. I'm gonna give the last word on this, or unless you want to throw in more, to Jeff Blair, who I really appreciate his writing with the understanding that is that it is dangerous to speak of the left or the right as a whole. These movements are inf. More complex than any simple characterization he mentions. It is undeniable that the language of leftist radicalism is steeped in the color red. Every political defeat is an apocalyptic catastrophe. The dark cloud of fascism forever threatens to descend. The only answer is direct action or propaganda of the deed, and only when evil people are made to suffer and die. These are Jones's thoughts, near verbatim, mind you, not mine. Jeff writes, that's the only way they might possibly change their ways and agree with you. Again, I emphasize Jay Jones did not let slip a few errant thoughts. He made a passionate appeal to a bleak moral worldview that, alarmingly, is consistent with other rhetoric and violent Slaughter we have seen coming from the left in recent months and weeks. And he wants to be the attorney general of the state of Virginia. Let the voters decide.

[Joe Getty]

You think he weathers this?

[Jack Armstrong]

I certainly hope he loses. I mean if a. And this is just, this is the truth, and I've known this for a very long time and the sooner you know it, the healthier your brain will be. If a poll comes out tomorrow that says, okay, this guy's now going to lose to the Republican, the Democrats will turn on him, right. And say, oh, moral outrage, et cetera, et cetera. But if the poll comes out tomorrow and he's ahead, they'll say he's apologized, it was ill considered words and blah, blah, blah. They'll stick with them completely. The important thing is principles. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. The their only principle, it's not a guiding principle, it's their only principle is we want power. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you don't have to win. It's automatic. You play a five dollar lineup, very modest. And you get fifty dollars to play around with Prize picks. Oh, Prize Picks app. Armstrong is the code. Prize picks. It's good to be right.

[Joe Getty]

So there's a new social media app out that is all AI called Sora. It just came out a week ago. And who's behind that? Altman is that. I think it's an Altman thing. Yeah. Open AI and Right now it's invitation only. You have to have a code. And I couldn't find a code. And thank you to whoever it was that's emailed us and sent a code. And I used the code and I got in. But here's the main thing. Soon it's going to be open to everybody. I just wanted to be in before everybody else so I can feel special. Very important that I feel special. But so I was on, I was rolling through Soar and the whole thing is, it's. Everything on there is AI. And, and I kind of like knowing that. So you're not scrolling and thinking, is this real or not or blah, blah. Every single thing on there, you know, is completely AI. So it's, it's interesting. I came across several videos where you could not at all tell that it wasn't the lips moving, the voice saying. Because as recently as a few months ago, it was pretty good. You know, like if you had Donald Trump saying, I think we should attack Paris tomorrow. You know, the lips didn't quite match up or something like that. But there, there, there was like a Sean Hansen, this Martin Luther King Jr. The high I have a dream speech in his I have a dream was something about, you know, AI conquering the world. And it was perfect. I mean, a hundred percent perfect.

[Jack Armstrong]

God help us.

[Joe Getty]

So like I said, we're there. We're wondering when we would get there. We're there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

On where you could have a video that there is not a hint in there that that wasn't Donald Trump, you know, in a private meeting declaring war on France or whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

And I don't know, I don't know where we go from now, because the flip side of that being, of course, no matter what, who gets caught doing what, like this guy here, except he's standing by his statement, so it makes it harder. But you could deny, you could deny anything and say that I was AI. How's somebody going to prove you wrong?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, the interesting thing about the J. Jones thing is he's, he said he. I've called to, I've tried to personally apologize to Mr. Gillis, was it, and his wife and his children and his mother and his dog, blah, blah, blah. But you know what he hasn't done, nobody's asked him to do is specifically disavow the point of view that no people have to feel actual pain to change their politics. And so we are justified in causing that physical pain. He hasn't addressed that, which is interesting. But back to your greater point, what percentage of the population. Do you think at this point just in the US could see a video of, say, Donald Trump saying we're canceling the next election and be fooled by it? See it and say, oh my God, it's true, it's true. And not think, oh, it's probably a deep fake, is it? It's, it's a sizable percentage. Well, right.

[Joe Getty]

And then the other question is how big a percentage does it have to be to really make a mess of things?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, I think we're here. And how will that change in a year or two? How will it change in the midterms? I mean, and we're not going to talk about the midterms, but if, if every single and as cheap and easy as it is to do this, it, this is not a pipe dream. If every single swing house district was just flooded with deep fake videos that were indistinguishable from legitimate candidate a beating his wife, dragging her through a hotel lobby like he's a diddy.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or and saying loathsome stuff and well.

[Joe Getty]

Imagine Today's technology in 2020 when you could have made all kinds of videos of people loading boxes of ballots into trucks that looked 100 true in various places and stuff like that. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

For instance. Yeah. Oh, that's a great for instance.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Oh boy, that's gonna be fun. This is gonna be a fun last part of my life.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh boy. I'll be in the woods if you need me.

[Joe Getty]

We got mailbags off myself mailbag on the way.

[Jack Armstrong]

Stay here. Armstrong and Gettys.

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[Joe Getty]

So a complete nut job, arrested with 200 bombs, some of which made with the same chemicals the Oklahoma City bomber used, which was pretty successful. Was outside a church where all of the Supreme Court justices were supposed to show up for a mass on Sunday. And luckily the guy was caught and he didn't kill all nine justices, which would have been quite the problem. More on that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Keep ranting about the out of control fascist maga court. Chuck Schumer. Just keep doing it. We'll reap the whirlwind. God Kavanaugh, you will reap the whirlwind. What a monster he is Male. I'm sorry. Freedom loving quote of the day. This one's a little self helpy, but I think it's a good one. Continuing our series on change, writer Mandy Hale says change is painful, but nothing is as painful as staying stuck somewhere you don't belong.

[Joe Getty]

Ah, that's a good one.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, this is going to be hard, but staying in this situation will be harder.

[Joe Getty]

It's the long term pain versus the short term pain. That's what you got to think about.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

The pain spread out over many years of continuing to do what you're doing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Here's your mailbag.

[Joe Getty]

That's a good one. That's a good philosophical thought.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is. Drop us a note mailbagarmstrongandgetti.com let's see. This is Russ from Portland. He writes, greetings, gents. And Katie and Jack. Not sure what category Jack falls into. I'm putting some pieces together here.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's see. Jack takes off his coat like a girl. Jack can't grow a mustache. Jack can't grill like a man, only like a hobo. But the biggest tell, Jack seems really excited about the new T Swizzle album and has been jamming out to it like a 14 year old girl. 14 year old girls also take off their coats like a girl. Can't grow mustaches and can't grill. Something you want to tell us, Jack? Or is it Jacqueline? It's okay. We still love you. Maybe you can get some makeup tips from Katie.

[Joe Getty]

That's funny.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's got a whole riff. Henry.

[Joe Getty]

Henry and I were watching that video. I take my coat off like a girl. It's on YouTube. I watched it the other day.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's pretty funny, actually. Boy. Let's see. Another J in San Jose says, guys, the Internet social media echo chamber seems to be entering its teenage hormone phase. Moody acne, totally uninformed, yet unquestionably certain. Brought to us with immense computing power of Rapidly expanding AI the worldwide the whirlwind is just beginning. It will get harder to see reality because crap in equals crap out.

[Joe Getty]

As a guy with two teenage boys, that description sounded pretty accurate.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I wish you were wrong, Jay. I don't can't come up with how you are. Let's see. Alvin in beautiful berserkly California. I've often wondered why the Trump haters are not at all bothered by the assassination attempts. They just completely pass over them like they hadn't happened. Then it hit me. They really think it was justified. It's like those fantasies of going back in time and killing baby Hitler. They think this is like the attempt on Hitler when he was out of range when the bomb went off. Yeah, the famous bomb plot. They really think Trump is the new Hitler. It's disgusting, but I think they actually hate him that much. A certain percentage of people and this would be another super interesting study. Maybe a university could do it. But it's got to be one of the four to six not completely woke Universities in America go with the most extreme rhetoric, you know, and we've hit you with a couple of examples of it this segment and, and poll how many people take it literally, how many people don't understand. Oh no, this is just supposed to whip me up and get me going. But I mean, he's not actually Hitler. I mean, come on.

[Joe Getty]

Good question.

[Jack Armstrong]

What percentage say, oh yeah, it's just the same.

[Joe Getty]

And how many and how. What percentage do you need to make things make life really hard? Probably not very many.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, in the best prosecution of Hitler. Well, see, right there. Unless that's AI. It's not. It was before AI. Anyway, I think that one of the best indictments you can make of these people and their rhetoric is that if I did take you literally and seriously and you were correct, violence would be justified. Absolutely.

[Joe Getty]

I would commit violence if I thought the democracy was ending.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, I would join you.

[Joe Getty]

It would make you a patriot.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, we're through here. Your honor. I think the jury is waving an American flag. I think that's a good sign for my side. Yeah, it's just terrible. Anyway, that's so serious. Maybe we'll get to that later. How much time do we have? Got a minute 20. Yeah. I will tell you this coming up next hour. I've got a segment I'm going to be be calling the major media beclowns itself. I've got a couple of great examples of that in which they write oh so eloquently and accidentally make the point opposite to the one they think they're making, but just real. One of those stories is about that illegal alien Des Moines superintendent of schools.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who also faked up his resume and was a gun toting nut and the rest of it. And you're gonna really enjoy that story. But we got this note from Al Anonymous about some, some people specifically in the state of California who had very important jobs with very specific credentials required. And it was all fake and nobody bothered to check.

[Joe Getty]

I wish I'd have known that when I was younger and, and the number I'd be. I'd be pulling somebody's wisdom teeth right now.

[Jack Armstrong]

They gotta come out. Well, numb you up. Don't worry about it. Yeah. Do you. Have you done that? Do you know people who've done that? Drop us a Note [e-mail] Boy, do.

[Joe Getty]

We have some good nut picking for hour two. It's a nut job at a Palestinian protest.

[Jack Armstrong]

Stay tuned. Armstrong and Getty.

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