What Are You Doing You Freaking Whackadoodle?!

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: What Are You Doing You Freaking Whackadoodle?!
Date: December 8, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this lively and wide-ranging episode, Jack and Joe tackle the frustrations of American health insurance, dissect weird trends in holiday spending, riff on the cultural oddities of AI love interests and “doll babies”, and conduct a deep dive into Ukraine’s war, corruption, and the Western response. Listeners are treated to the hosts’ signature blend of irreverence and sharp commentary, cemented by plenty of tangents, pop culture references, and playful banter.

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Main Theme

The episode pokes at the challenges and absurdities of modern life, from the convoluted world of health insurance to the cultural shifts surrounding AI relationships and economic anxiety during the holidays. International tensions, specifically Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and U.S. policy responses, form the political backbone of this week’s conversation, alongside reflections on American consumer culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Frustrating State of U.S. Health Insurance

(Starts at 03:19)

• General manager of the day: The U.S. health insurance system.
• Discussion on Congressional woes about expiring Obamacare subsidies.
• Republicans lack a unifying replacement or reform plan, leading to stasis.
  • “They don’t have a plan of their own. They don’t have a reform that they can all agree on. It’s a mess.” — Joe Getty (03:35)

2. Holiday Preparations & Family Life

(Starts at 04:18)

• Jack shares a wholesome family moment: picking up a Christmas tree from the Boy Scout lot.
• Relatable talk about holiday traditions (decorating the tree, watching "Home Alone").
  • “Macaulay Culkin’s talent... is his ability to scream and be funny.” — Jack Armstrong (04:42)
• Debate over movie trivia: Who played alongside Joe Pesci in “Home Alone”? (Answer: Daniel Stern at 06:01)

3. Economic Jitters vs. Real-World Spending

(Starts at 06:06)

• Despite bad economic “vibes,” consumer spending remains high.
• Discussion of the psychological split: “My life sucks... but I’m gonna spend the same amount I always do.”
  • “For some reason, that seems to be our attitude.” — Jack Armstrong (06:34)
• Joe notes the “dangerous” pattern of maintaining gift budgets out of habit or guilt.

4. Cultural Oddities: Doll Babies & AI Girlfriends

(Starts at 07:17)

• Teaser for a segment on adults treating dolls as real babies.
• The rise of AI relationships:
  • “You’re gonna know someone who’s got a... whatever you’re gonna call it... this one I saw... Unbelievable.” — Jack Armstrong (09:10)
  • The hosts riff on future euphemisms for people in synthetic relationships (e.g., “synth lover”).
  • “Or do you just start right off with ‘what are you doing, you freaking whackadoodle?’” — Jack Armstrong (08:51)
• Jokes about how AI “wives” might solve practical problems (Christmas shopping reminders, etc.)

5. Economic Trends: The “K-Shaped Economy”

(Starts at 11:44)

• News segment introduces the term “K-shaped economy” (12:05).
• Joe explains: the well-off are spending lavishly, the bottom 60% are bargain-hunting or pulling back.
  • “If I hear that one more time, I’m gonna vomit.” — Jack Armstrong (12:30)
• The hosts lampoon the media’s habit of coining economic buzzwords.

6. Ukraine: War, Corruption, and Western Dilemmas

(Starts at 17:13 and again at 25:56)

• Zelensky’s diplomatic efforts: Meeting world leaders to discuss a pressured peace deal.
• Corruption in Ukraine: New York Times exposé on Zelensky’s government turning a blind eye to corruption.
  • “Assuming he’s not corrupt himself. That’s gotta be tough. You see your friends—you're stealing during a war?” — Jack Armstrong (17:25)
• Peace proposals: Trump supports a plan that would give Russia significant territorial gains. Hosts critique this as naive and dangerous for European security.
  • “Putin is absolutely going to insist on a lackey government for Ukraine.” — Joe Getty (19:46)
  • “Ending the war in Ukraine on Russia’s terms makes it more likely we get pulled into a European war, not less.” — Jack Armstrong (27:46)
• Brief history and analysis of U.S. and Western policy errors since 2014 (discussion of Yanukovych, buffer states, etc.; 28:53).
• Analogy to South Vietnam: Western support propping up corrupt allies, “the dominoes did not begin to fall after that” (32:56).

7. Mailbag & Freedom-Loving Quote of the Day

(Starts at 40:58)

• Dwight D. Eisenhower: “A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both.” (41:33)
• Emails feature:
  • Listeners’ tales of family members at Pearl Harbor.
  • Critiques of “hovering” parents who then turn kids loose with smartphones (leading to addiction/mental health crises).
  • The “nurturing energy” of young women redirected from motherhood to activism.
    • “You’ve got to turn that biological need to nurture... towards something.” — Jack Armstrong (44:41)
  • Anecdote: “We are too poor to buy cheap things.” — A Ukrainian listener, on quality vs. quantity.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “What are you doing, you freaking whackadoodle?”
  — Jack Armstrong, on how to react to a friend’s AI “partner” (08:51)

• “They don’t have a plan of their own. They don’t have a reform that they can all agree on. It’s a mess.”
  — Joe Getty, on Congressional inaction over health insurance (03:35)

• “If I hear ‘K-shaped economy’ one more time, I’m gonna vomit.”
  — Jack Armstrong’s take on economic jargon (12:30)

• “Macaulay Culkin’s talent...is his ability to scream and be funny.”
  — Jack Armstrong, reflecting on “Home Alone” (04:42)

• “Ending the war in Ukraine on Russia’s terms makes it more likely we get pulled into a European war, not less.”
  — Jack Armstrong’s warning about the peace deal (27:46)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Health Insurance & Politics: 03:19
• Family Holiday Prep & “Home Alone”: 04:18
• Spending & Economic Pessimism: 06:06
• Doll Babies & AI Partners: 07:17 – 11:36
• K-Shaped Economy Explained: 12:05
• Ukraine Corruption & Peace Talks: 17:13, 25:56
• Mailbag & Life Lessons: 40:58

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Tone & Style

Armstrong & Getty’s tone toggles between wry, sarcastic, and worried. Their banter is full of ironic asides and deadpan delivery, using humor to probe uncomfortable realities—whether it’s America’s contradictory spending habits, the normalization of bizarre AI relationships, or the tragic inertia of geopolitics. Even when veering into serious critiques, the show remains fast-paced and conversational.

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Summary

“What Are You Doing You Freaking Whackadoodle?!” delivers Armstrong & Getty’s signature critical—often irreverently comic—take on America’s most pressing political, societal, and technological issues. From holiday spending insanity and unwieldy health insurance to the ever-present specter of global conflict and the uncanny rise of synthetic relationships, this episode is a whirlwind tour through the absurdities and anxieties of 2025, always with a raised eyebrow and a punchline.

Transcript

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

And the music of that middle school band sums up the attitude. As you head into a brand new week, you wish you had prepared more. No task at hand, but you're doing your best to hit the note that is whatever you're trying to accomplish.

Almost got there. Yeah. Live from Studio C a dimly, this is deep within the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound. And hey, y', all, today getting awful close to Christmas, we're under the tutelage.

[Joe Getty]

Of our general manager, your crappy, frustrating health insurance.

[Jack Armstrong]

What?

[Joe Getty]

You're crappy, confusing, dissatisfying, overly expensive health insurance.

[Jack Armstrong]

And why is that, my general manager?

[Joe Getty]

Well, Republicans in Congress are struggling with the end of the temporary. Apparently we've forgotten what that word means. Extra subsidies for Obamacare and are reckoning with the fact that the Democrats are demagoguing the issue and saying everybody's health insurance is going to go up well again if it was a temporary subsidy, yes, that is the inevitable result. But they don't know what to do about it. They don't have a plan of their own. They don't have a reform that they can all agree on. It's a mess.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right. Look forward to that conversation over the next couple of weeks or into January. That'll be a good thing to come back to on January, huh?

[Joe Getty]

And that sound fun or the rest of our miserable lives before they sort it out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Got my tree up on Saturday. Me and the boys, we went and got our tree at the boy scout lot because my son is a boy scout. So we went to a different place this year and we got our tree there and he's working at the boy scout lot a couple of shifts and got it up, decorated, had some snacks while we did it, watched, had home alone on the television while we decorated very fast. Nice. I hadn't seen the original home alone in quite some time.

Macaulay Culkin's talent among among them. But his biggest talent is his ability to scream and be funny. He does it like nine times in that movie where he opens his mouth really wide and screams. Yeah, yeah, that, that's Israel talent. It's, it's hilarious when he does it.

[Joe Getty]

Charming holiday movie about A child alone, being terrorized by two career criminals.

[Jack Armstrong]

When the van. When Joe Pesci almost hits him with the van, and he turns around and the van's right in his face, and he opens up his mouth and screams. I watched that like, 10 times in a row. Just see. Why is this so funny? The timing is just so good. It made me laugh every single time.

[Joe Getty]

Macaulay Culkin. Macaulay, we tip our caps to you.

[Jack Armstrong]

I didn't mention to my kids that he was. He ended up being friends with Michael Jackson because that might have sullied the hole.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

You don't want to start thinking about that.

That's not Christmasy.

[Joe Getty]

I guess not. Who is the other guy? Joe Pesci's cohort. He's another fine comedic actor, just not as well known as the Great Passion.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's funny. I was trying to think of his name the whole movie, and I never checked. GPT. Katie is going to right now. There's a lot of stars in that first Home Alone movie. And John Candy, of course, is so freaking funny.

[Joe Getty]

Always.

Huh?

[Jack Armstrong]

No. Anyway, got the tree up, and it's so festive in the house. Really, really enjoy. Who is it, Katie?

[Katie Alrighty (News Reporter)]

Daniel Stern.

[Jack Armstrong]

Daniel Stern.

[Joe Getty]

Of course, Daniel. We apologize, but.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we are out spending money. Apparently, lots of other people were. The. The economic news, in terms of the spending, continues to look good, despite our attitudes. It was an article in the Wall Street Journal yesterday getting to this conversation. The Cranky Shopper or the Cranky Consumer. It was called How Our Attitude Is. My Life sucks. I'm going broke. I can't make my payments, but I'm gonna spend the same amount I always do. For some reason, that seems to be our attitude.

And we'll see how that works out when the bills come in January.

[Joe Getty]

Well, yeah, I guess once you get to a certain level of spending on gifts for what's probably a mostly static list of human beings, I could see people feeling like, you know, if they decline from that number, they're. They're cheaping out, and they don't want to do that.

I did, but that's. That's a dangerous, you know, pattern to lock yourself into.

[Jack Armstrong]

Katie is with child, much like Mary was this time of year. Are you buying? Do you have gifts under the tree for the baby?

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[Jack Armstrong]

No. Okay.

[Katie Alrighty (News Reporter)]

No, I do not.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Katie Alrighty (News Reporter)]

He's not here yet.

[Jack Armstrong]

Gotcha. Well, that's right. I understand.

[Joe Getty]

Checked his schedule. Check the calendar. Can't make it right this Christmas.

[Jack Armstrong]

We do have a story later about people that are into dolls for babies. Women that kind of take on these dolls and treat them like babies.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. For a. Like over the long term. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we talk about that later in continues down that road of people pushing pets around in strollers and having doll babies. Fantastic. If you, if you, if you push your stroller up to me and show me your doll baby, I don't think I can stop from saying something sarcastic.

[Joe Getty]

They're gonna put AI in those doll babies soon, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God.

[Joe Getty]

Then it'll goo goo gaga with the help of Chat GPT.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, I saw some who put out.

[Joe Getty]

A video trying to convince you to kill yourself.

[Jack Armstrong]

One of your news publications over the weekend had the latest girlfriend chat bot thingy.

[Joe Getty]

Oh my God.

[Jack Armstrong]

It was disturbing. How realistic it looked.

Oh my God. Now y', all, you should start planning now for a son, a friend, an uncle, whoever.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah, have a playbook ready that.

[Jack Armstrong]

You'Re gonna find out they've got an AI Chat girlfriend, Chatbot girlfriend and silicone girlfriend of how you're going to. Speaking of, you know, I'm going to say something sarcastic. Are you just going to say it's nice to meet you Linda.

[Joe Getty]

She's lovely. Jim.

You get the. Did you get spring for the extended warranty? See, I would say something like that and then it we there would be a rift.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or do you just start right off with what are you doing, you freaking wackadoodle? Yeah, but that's coming. You are going to know someone who's got a. Whatever you're gonna call it. This one I saw from which news organization it might have been the BBC. Unbelievable.

In the way it talks and then gets to know you and, and and remembers your conversations the way Chat GPT and everything does.

[Joe Getty]

Sure, sure. Yeah. How'd that game go last night, honey? Oh yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Disturbing. You could come home and talk to her and this particular one was ridiculous. It was like, looked like it was like 21 years old and it's wearing a cheerleader outfit or whatever, sitting on the couch because that's the way your wife's supposed to dress.

[Joe Getty]

And where do you order those?

[Jack Armstrong]

You come home and your 21 year old cheerleader girlfriend wife person says so what was Jim like at work today? Was he the same old same old? You know, because they understand what's going on in your life and you can have really connecting conversations. Like.

[Joe Getty]

Right. That's not at all disturbing. All right, here's the question. What, what euphemism will the industry and enthusiasts come up for the artificial Wife girlfriend.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the people that don't normalize it, slash sell them.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. And the users who don't want to just openly admit I'm. I'm. I'm an odd duck.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm a pathetic loser.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, well, I wasn't gonna go there, but I did.

Since synth lover, they won't use the term artificial.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It. But it will be something like that. It will be euphemized in a way, you're right. That's coming soon, no doubt.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Some sort of term. We should start the show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this Monday. So we got today, this week, and then till next Thursday. Right. Till Christmas. Because I haven't started shopping yet. That's why I'm saying this. It's Monday, December 8th of the year 2025, where Armstrong. And yet, when we approve of this program.

[Joe Getty]

Next Thursday's the 18th, so.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we got this week, next week, and then. Yes, okay, cool. I'm in great shape then. What am I all worried about?

[Joe Getty]

What are you, druid the 18?

[Jack Armstrong]

I got plenty of time to.

[Joe Getty]

You got 17 days, no problem, Michael.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why am I even worried about it?

[Joe Getty]

Besides, my synth bride will remind me that of all the shopping I need, that would be kind of handy. Hey, synth wife. I can't remember. Who do I still have to shop for? You still have to shop for your cousin Bill and your daughter Jenny.

[Jack Armstrong]

And she's got the list in her head and can contact Amazon and deal with all that sort of stuff. There'd be advantages.

[Joe Getty]

Remember, Jenny wanted a new hutch for her rabbit, right? Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Wow. I'm starting to warm to the idea.

[Jack Armstrong]

Cheerleader outfit, you say?

[Joe Getty]

All right, let's begin the show officially. Now, according to FCC rules and regulations, here we go.

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Shoppers splurge, others are digging for deals.

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Experts say they're seeing consumers going in two different directions. What they're calling a K shaped economy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, I've heard that a bunch of times. K shaped. Why is it. What's the K? I don't quite get why it's K shaped.

[Joe Getty]

You got your spine of the K. That's your straight up line. Forget about that. It's the other two lines.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, okay.

[Joe Getty]

It's like. It's like a less than sign, right? In math. Right. Look at. I'm making like an alligator mouth with my hands for the rest of the crew.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And that means what?

[Joe Getty]

It's going in two different directions. The bottom 60% of consumers are spending less and less and hunting for big bargains. The more affluent folks are spending like.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lunatics, what some are calling a K shaped economy. If I hear that one more time, I'm gonna vomit. Okay, fantastic. Somebody came up with a new something or other to call the economy. Whoops. Dee, do.

We gotta wait till everything pans out to see how this is? If people are spending beyond their means, as is being suggested by some news publications, there's gonna be a reckoning come bill paying time.

[Joe Getty]

I think these cable news peoples, they.

[Jack Armstrong]

All say the same thing.

[Joe Getty]

It's like they have a script. That's a good point, computer wife. You're pretty clever and observant. That's because I can take in all media simultaneously.

Through my electrodes. Don't mention your electrodes. It weir me out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh boy. It.

[Joe Getty]

It gets in the way of the magic.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. So we got Katie's headlines on the way and we'll catch up on some of the news of the day. Is the video gonna come out this week? The Double Tap video. That's what a lot of people are waiting for. There's still two very different views of how that video looked. I'm kind of anxious myself to see who's been misleading me about whether or not these were combatants trying to reconfigure their ability to bring drugs in the country or they were two badly injured people clinging to a couple of pieces of balsa wood floating in the ocean signaling for help. Very different views of the same.

[Joe Getty]

It's a K shaped analysis, Jack.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I would say so. Anyway, lots on the way. Stay here.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

President Zelensky's meeting with.

Car Starmer today in Great Britain among other people, to try to decide whether or not he wants to accept this peace deal that's being pushed his way. We'll keep our eye on that story, see if any news comes out of it.

[Joe Getty]

He is hurting for certain. New York Times big article over the weekend about corruption in Ukraine and how Zelinsky's government turned a blind eye and allowed it.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, that's got to be tough. Assuming he's not corrupt himself. That's got to be tough. You see some of your friends like you're really, you're stealing during a war. Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Well, it's, it's as old as war. Anyway. More on that to come. Let's figure out who's reporting what. It's Lead Story with Katie Green.

[Katie Alrighty (News Reporter)]

Katie Alrighty, let's start with the big story, the boat strikes. Three headlines on this one NBC admiral told lawmakers everyone on alleged drug boat was on a list of military targets. From pbs, US Boat strike backlash continues as lawmakers weigh in. NPR Hegseth says Defense Department is reviewing boat strike video for possible release.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I watched some of the Sunday shows yesterday, completely different views or takeaways from people who have seen that video. So when the video comes out.

I think one side or the other is going to have some serious explaining to do as to why you interpreted it the way you did. I mean, they're so far apart, it's hard to imagine that it's one of those Rorschach tests where you can see a different ways. It's hard to imagine that that's the case.

[Joe Getty]

Right. I wonder, I wonder if it'll be that clear, Katie, indicating there that they're considering releasing it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Trump said get everything out, but maybe the War Department decides not to.

[Joe Getty]

Why would they hold it back? They put out plenty of videos of.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Getting exploded.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think that would be suspicious.

[Katie Alrighty (News Reporter)]

There was speculation that releasing the videos would show some of our tactics and they're worried about putting that on display.

[Jack Armstrong]

Dropping a bomb on people's head. Yeah, I don't know.

[Katie Alrighty (News Reporter)]

I don't know. That was on one of the weekend shows.

[Joe Getty]

Hmm.

[Katie Alrighty (News Reporter)]

From abc, Zelensky calls for, quote, collective pressure on Russia amid fresh strikes.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was watching News Nation today and their analyst on there said Trump's not Trump. Oh, geez, what a terrible mistake. Putin is not going to stop with Ukraine or where he is. He want if they agree to this chunk of land that he says belongs to him, even though he hasn't won it on the battlefield, he's going to go to Kiev next chance he gets. And then he's got other countries in mind. That was their analysis on News Nation today.

[Joe Getty]

Well, he's absolutely going to insist on a lacky government for Ukraine like the one that was in place before, one that is unquestionably Russia leaning and not west leaning.

[Katie Alrighty (News Reporter)]

From the New York Post mystery deepens as to why it took the FBI nearly five years to finally bust the suspected J6 pipe bomber.

[Jack Armstrong]

His parents say he's.

Near autistic. The kid. I don't know what that means.

[Joe Getty]

I'm not shocked by that.

[Katie Alrighty (News Reporter)]

From the Wall Street Journal. China's trade surplus tops $1 trillion, underscoring its export dominance.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. It was considered a big deal last year when they announced in January that they'd hit a trillion dollars. This time they're a trillion point zero eight. Just through November.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Wow.

[Katie Alrighty (News Reporter)]

From People magazine. Woman attacked by geese at local park suffers broken pelvis and internal bleeding.

[Jack Armstrong]

Broken pelvis. How big were these geese?

[Katie Alrighty (News Reporter)]

I don't. Well, I don't know, but she apparently was on the ground and they, like, they wouldn't let her get up.

[Jacob Goldstein (What's Your Problem? Advertiser)]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, she probably injured herself in the fall. I don't think geese can break your pelvis, but yeah. Yeah, I've been amongst aggressive geese and they're. They're terrifying birds. And they're pretty large, too. So if she was frail or old or whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Katie Alrighty (News Reporter)]

This one from study finds Americans have a new holiday gift wish. Please pay my bills.

[Joe Getty]

Oof.

[Katie Alrighty (News Reporter)]

They did a poll. Cash was at the top.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. That'd be an interesting thing to offer, particularly young people. How about I make a pay your electric bill first month? When people see that as a nice gift or kind of condescending, trust me, they need it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Katie Alrighty (News Reporter)]

And finally, the Babylon Be husband issues travel ban on any trucks from Amazon.

[Joe Getty]

Travel ban.

[Katie Alrighty (News Reporter)]

I found this funny because my dad says it's not a normal day if an Amazon truck doesn't show up at.

[Jack Armstrong]

The house or five in the my cul de sac. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And sometimes driving way too fast.

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[Jack Armstrong]

What is a dealio? I know you got a lot of deliveries to make. Okay, we'll get to more news coming up. If you missed the segment, get the.

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[Joe Getty]

A growing number of studies show that watching short form videos can lead to mental cognition problems. So if you're watching this on TikTok.

[Jack Armstrong]

Dude.

Yeah, how you doing? There is something wrong with Saturday Night Live. I've been watching it since it first came on the air in the mid-70s and there's something broken there. The the bits aren't working most of the time. And you know, I I just like through years where people said Saturday Alive sucks. I hung with it. The sum. I don't know if they changed all their writers or what, but something is just off. Off. It's Saturday Night Live. It's weird this year. Anyhow, we mentioned this President Zelinsky is going to be in 10 Downing street in London. That's where their government is based. Meeting with McCrone Starmer of Great Britain and Fred Mertz from Germany about this whole peace plan thing. And Donald Trump yesterday is very unhappy that Zelinsky has not yet agreed to the peace plan. Trump criticized President Zelensky, claiming the Ukrainian leader had not read the latest version of the peace proposals. He hasn't even read it yet. And that Putin is on board. Well, yeah, Putin's on board because it gives him everything he wants. That's one of the reasons Zelinsky is not on board.

[Joe Getty]

For all of Donald J's good qualities. He is so obsessed with getting the win. Like some of the other peace deals he's brokered have fallen apart because, you know, they were, they were good. They stopped the fighting for a while, but just for a little while. And he claimed the win, that he brought peace. And now they're back to killing the hell out of each other. And this is the problem with this deal is in the long term, it has no significant guarantees for the safety of Ukraine.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, it would start with Russia having control over all of the eastern Ukrainian region known as the Donbass, which they have not gained on the ground in going on four years of war. So it give that to them. And then if they ever unleash an attack again, which they would, man, they'd be in Kiev by the afternoon.

Especially if there are no guarantees like you just mentioned. So, I mean, I don't know. I don't see how Ukraine could possibly do agree to that deal.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I know, it's awful. It's awful. And I think they are heading toward a terrible result, honestly, whether it is through the auspices of Trump and some sort of peace plan are on the battlefield going well.

[Jack Armstrong]

And let me throw this in before we go on, just for our, you know, it's not our business. We don't need to be involved in that land dispute crowd. I think it makes it more likely we end up in a nuclear war, not less if Ukraine is forced to agree to this peace plan, because then Putin is going to take Kiev and then he's on the border of a bunch of NATO nations, which lots of people think he's going to try to take again. And then we're, we're, we're facing, you know, Article 5 of our NATO agreement, blah, blah, blah.

I think ending the war in Ukraine on Russia's terms makes it more likely we get pulled into a European war, not less.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that, well, that's One of the great points of disagreement I actually found a. Not a devil's advocate, they didn't see it that way, but an argument that we, the United States and the west, and particularly the Obama administration, caused the chain of events that ended with the Russian invasion of Ukraine by deposing the 2014 government of. What the hell was his name? That's funny. It just flitted out of my head. They had a very Russian leaning government that was seen by the west as corrupt lackeys and, you know, slaves of Putin. Well, and it was utterly corrupt. Right. And then they. There was an uprising, a coup, if you will, a revolution in which a much more Western facing regime was put in place. And there, there are those that blame the west for promoting that and threatening Russia's security and safety, unleashing that chain of events. It's a pretty interesting analysis. There's a lot of the eye of the beholder, though. Livchenko. Is that his name? Livchenko? Was he a lackey and a stooge and corrupt and all? Or was he a sensible man trying to balance the needs of, oh, Yanukovych? That's right. I'm thinking of the wrong guy. But he was lazily caricatured as a Russian puppet. But in reality, he was doing what any Ukrainian leader should be doing. Balancing Ukraine's existence as a buffer state between Western Europe and Russia.

[Jack Armstrong]

But even if all that's true, Even if it's 100% true, what difference does that make now? Go ahead, write history books blaming.

Whoever.

[Joe Getty]

Well, it matters because it suggests that Putin having re established an Eastern leaning Ukraine and getting rid of the Neo Khan obsessed with the west types, will. Will have his security again. And. And we'll be fine.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Joe Getty]

This was all about a threat to Russian security, which will definitely don't believe that. Yeah. So anyway, among the other losses that Ukraine has sustained lately, this is a big one. They've lost the New York Times. Zelensky's government sabotaged oversight, allowing corruption to fester. And they talk about how when Russia invaded Ukraine and the Western allies were willing to pony up billions and billions of dollars, they knew that a great challenge would be to fund the military without watching the money vanish into the pockets of corrupt managers and government officials. To protect their money, the US And European nations insisted on oversight. They required Ukraine to allow groups of outside experts known as supervisory boards, to monitor everything and prevent corruption. Over the past four years, the New York Times investigation found the Ukrainian government systematically sabotaged that oversight, allowing graft to flourish. President Volodymyr Zelensky's administration has stacked boards with loyalists, left seats empty or stalled them from being set up at all.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, Zelinsky's right hand man, I mean, his closest advisor, and he was basically the SEC def and lead negotiator throughout most of this. He resigned. Now he claims that he's not corrupt and people are out to get him and they're all lying about it, but he resigned and Zelinsky no longer has him at his side. He's the guy right next to him in that video from the very beginning of the war. Remember, they're in the dark alley basically putting out a video saying, we're still here, we ain't going nowhere.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

He's the guy right next to Zelinsky. And that in President Zelinsky has lost that dude in his efforts. Now, emotionally, that's got to be just brutal.

No matter what's happening. In terms of the corruption.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Well. And the question is, and always has been, is the corruption at a level, as I've made the point many times in a former Soviet republic, You're gonna have a lot of corruption. You just are. That was the only way to get things done for a very long time. And it's culturally accepted. Is it at a level that you're unhappy about, you're trying to limit, but you can tolerate, or has it just gotten to a point where you just can't justify the expenditure anymore? I don't know. The fact that the New York Times went big with this story, it was like top of the fold, the website for a while anyway, and is long and complete and scathing. It's not a good sign.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, but you're still in the same situation. So even if Ukraine is incredibly corrupt, it's not good for the United States and Europe if Putin takes Ukraine with his eyes on other countries. So I don't know what we do at that point.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. It reminds me in some ways of the South Vietnamese regime during the Vietnam War period where they were utterly corrupt and lacking popular support in a lot of ways too. And there's just. They. They couldn't stand without gigantic Western support.

[Jack Armstrong]

And worth pointing out for people on the other side of my argument, the dominoes did not begin to fall after that. That's where it stopped.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Communism did not spread all across countries as we abandoned that.

[Joe Getty]

Now it's just spread to the college campuses. Anyway, I thought this was interesting. Speaking of the old gray lady, have you followed at all the Trump administration national security strategy that they put out. It's a fairly readable not very long document. I can't remember how many Pages it is.48 or something like that. But one of the things that it says came out Friday that Europe was facing the stark prospect of civilizational erasure and pledged that the US Would support like minded patriotic parties across the continent to prevent a future in which, quote, certain NATO members will become majority non European.

The starkest and highest level statement ever that hey, letting in rampant immigration from Africa and the Middle east is fundamentally changing who you are and you soon will be unrecognizable and unworthy as an ally.

A lot of which is true.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now Donald Tusk, the guy who runs Poland, put out a statement over the weekend basically saying note to Trump, we're your number one ally in Europe. We're not a problem.

But it could be both, right? It could be a number one ally and a problem.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

So I guess the question is this.

Do you think.

That if Putin's given everything he wanted in this peace deal, he stops where he is. He lost so many men. It cost him so much money. He's done. Or do you think he waits six months to a year, reinvades Ukraine, takes Kiev.

[Joe Getty]

It kind of depends how Ukrainian politics go. If they become a vassal state of Russia, he's probably good. Good with that. I mean, he'll have effective control.

They continue to be west leaning and armed by the Europeans and the Americans. Yeah, it takes Kiev in a couple of years.

[Jack Armstrong]

So then would your wish be that he gets to install some sort of friendly government and calls it good and we never think about it again?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. I really don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

You have to have an answer.

[Joe Getty]

I do.

It's. It is a very tough nut to crack. It's a very difficult situation.

[Jack Armstrong]

How about he's got his vassal state. He doesn't need to go any further into Keef because he's basically in Kiev. Does he go to Estonia or whatever those other little countries around there that nobody has ever heard of?

[Joe Getty]

I certainly hope not.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I hope not either.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'm one of the intelligence services that. But if you really want a conclusion, I'll give you one. But it's with that low level of certainty. It's a guess.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or does Trump think maybe it happens, but I won't be president when it happens?

[Joe Getty]

Or does that fat old commie bastard finally have a heart attack? Putin then.

[Jack Armstrong]

Who's next?

[Joe Getty]

What's next? He's getting a little roundish. Yeah, it's all like. It's all that caviar and borscht.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like I always say, when I was standing at the hotel in Moscow, I think I get up in the morning, their breakfast buffet at this hotel had like 20 different kinds of caviar, of which I ate none. Do people like it that much in Russia?

[Joe Getty]

Been spending a lot of time in Russia, have you? Lee Harvey Armstrong? Demand an investigation.

[Jack Armstrong]

We got email on the way. More news of the day. Hope you can stick around.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

The color of the year has been announced, and people on the Internet are angry. I have no idea what either one of those sentences mean. Also, I'm thinking about putting Christmas bells on my scale so when I step on and that thing smacks up to the top because I'm heavier than the day before and it goes jingle, jingle, jingle, maybe put me in a better mood.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Wow, I like it. Boy, that that couple of sentences you unleashed on us I picture a man of, say, the 40s or 50s, a woman of the 60s hearing that sentence. They might think, I don't know what that second thing is, but I'm gonna punch you just, just to be safe. You seem like you need to be punched. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day from the great Dwight D. Eisenhower, sent along by Brian. A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both. Too late, Ike. Too late.

Mailbag. This is from unofficial show historian Mike in San Francisco.

On the anniversary of the day that we'll live in infamy Yesterday, the attack on Pearl Harbor. Really moving note about his dad and his dad's service in the Navy. And he mentions that his dad was actually stationed in Alameda, California on the day of the attack on Pearl Harbor. And more of more than half of his boot camp class died on battleships moored at Pearl harbor that day.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, amazing. Very, very, very few Pearl harbor survivors left. Obviously. They're all over 100 years old. Let's see, moving along. Jay in LA.

On the UK experimenting on children these days. Michael, that music sounds louder than normal to me. Is that just my headphones? I feel like I'm having to shout over it. All right. I just been playing the normal way.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

You know, I hear cocaine is back in. Is the band, the show band here in the studio? Are they coked up, playing extra loud or drunk? All right, moving along. So the UK is now reinstituted under the Labor Party. Some of the cruel experiments on children who are momentarily confused about their gender. And Jason's this, along with the UK unbelievably contemplating hormone experiments on hundreds of children. I wish someone would point out to them that East Germany ran these experiments for decades and the outcomes are known. And from I believe it's Wikipedia. While doping brought East Germany impressive results in sporting events, it was often devastating to the health of the athletes involved.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure.

[Joe Getty]

Gender bending hormones. Yeah, it's terrible. Terrible for you. Let's see. Henry writes, I'm watching Sunday news shows waiting for the left to protest Trump dumping tons of cocaine into the ocean in those drug boat attacks. Yeah, you got a bunch of coked up whales swimming around the ocean. I think the ocean's big enough to take a little cocaine dissolving in it. Although I don't know if I'm, you know, some sort of sea creature and all of a sudden I'm awash and in the coca.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oof.

[Joe Getty]

About Greg from Detroit.

Guys, consider this. Young women aren't interested in having sex with men, nor marrying men and are flocking to social justice causes like feeding the hungry, housing the poor, advocating for Palestinian statehood and stopping climate change. Perhaps we should simply view them and refer to them as postmodern nuns. Obviously they aren't Christian nuns, but they've clearly have the same sort of calling. With all the trappings of sisterhood, a rejection of high paying careers and a wardrobe of high waisted jeans and Doc Martens Martins. Are the modern liberal arts universities really any different from a traditional convent in terms of indoctrination?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I read something the other day about how you know millions and millions of young women not having kids. You got to turn that biological need to nurture and take care of towards something. And if it gets pointed toward climate change or trans or whatever, you have a lot of energy for it because you're designed to have a lot of energy for some sort of nurturing protection thing.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Have some more news on the Omnic cause coming up. It's pretty amusing. I love this. Anya.

Says Listen to your discussion of cheap Chinese crap. It reminded me of something my mother always told me growing up. Quote, we are too poor to buy cheap things.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's pretty good actually.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

We're too poor to go out and buy cheap crappy tools that are going to be worthless. Let's wait until we can afford good ones.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And then finally, alien Anonymous with a story about a great family that gave their 12 year old son a smartphone. Soon addicted to pornography, running with a bad crowd, ended up being sent away to a teen rehab camp.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yikes.

[Joe Getty]

And then she makes the point. I find it ironic that parents can be so hyper vigilant about their children not letting them be free range and they hover over their every move until they get these devices. Then they basically become absentee parents at the worst possible moment, let the Internet raise their child.

[Jack Armstrong]

That factors in a little bit to that second story on 60 Minutes last night about that poor girl who killed herself talking to chatbots. I'm gonna talk about that later.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. The trend in hovering helicopter snowplow parenting coinciding with just turning your kids loose with a smartphone. It's crazy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it really is. I thought that as I was watching 60 Minutes last night. We'll talk about that later and a whole bunch of other stuff. Hope you can stick around.

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