What Is It With Murderous Idiots?!

Summary

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Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: What Is It With Murderous Idiots?!
Date: April 8, 2026
Host: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Podcast by: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Armstrong and Getty blend sharp commentary with incredulity and humor as they tackle three major themes:

1. The Crisis in American Public Education: A scathing critique of declining academic standards, educational policy missteps, and the shift from academics to activism in government schools.
2. “Murderous Idiots” and True Crime Mysteries: The bizarre and tragically predictable patterns among murder cases involving the not-so-brilliant perpetrators.
3. Iran, Trump, and Global Geopolitics: Dissecting the uncertainty and spin surrounding a supposed ceasefire negotiation between the US and Iran, as well as the geopolitical consequences for the world.

Light moments touch on viral fast food videos and McDonald’s economic strategies, but the episode largely maintains a tone of frustration laced with biting wit.

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1. The American Public School Crisis

(Timestamps: 00:27 – 13:09)

Key Discussion Points

• San Francisco’s Algebra Reversal

  • San Francisco's school board reverses a 10-year-old “equity” policy that eliminated 8th-grade algebra, restoring the course after disastrous declines in math proficiency.
  • “[The policy] tried to achieve equity not by raising the floor, but by lowering the ceiling. It’s a problem we see nationally, just horrible.” — A [02:59]
  • Black student math proficiency dropped from 11% to 4% during the policy's implementation.

• Grades vs. Learning

  • Armstrong & Getty warn that grades and school reports often mask a child's true academic standing.
  • “You may be in the ruby reddest town in America. There is an island of deep blue in your town. It is your government schools. Trust me on this.” — A [10:37]

• Shift to Activism in Schools

  • Schools are accused of indoctrinating students and veering from their primary mission. Kids are increasingly being trained as activists rather than taught to think critically.
  • “Instead of reading, math, science, and history, [students receive] lessons centered on activism, grievance, and personal political identity. This isn’t preparing students for success. It’s distracting them from the very education they desperately need.” — A [04:54]

• Results & Spending

  • Test scores are the worst in decades; 33% of 8th graders and 40% of 4th graders read below basic levels.
  • Spending per student has increased ($16,000+/student), with little to no educational improvement.
  • “We didn’t get jack spit out of that money… The biggest crisis the US faces is the indoctrination and lack of education of our children. China as a threat pales next to it.” — A citing Michael Petrelli [11:34], [12:15]

• Parental Awareness

  • COVID-19 revealed the extent of these problems to many unwitting parents.
  • “You cannot at all assume your kid is learning basic reading, writing, and arithmetic or that their grade means anything.” — B [10:10]

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2. “What Is It With Murderous Idiots?!” — True Crime Frustrations

(Timestamps: 13:10 – 16:54)

Key Discussion Points

• The Bahamas Boat Mystery

  • Discussion of the high-profile case: a Michigan woman, Lynette Hooker, disappears during a boat trip with her husband, who returns with a story that immediately arouses suspicion.
  • Noted the husband's suspicious behavior: returning late, wife allegedly fell overboard with the boat key, daughter’s comment on their turbulent history and previous threats from the husband.

• Predictability of Murderous Motives & Mishaps

  • “What is it with the murderous idiots?” — B [15:33]
  • Both hosts incredulous at the stupidity of murderers who think their feeble alibis (a la Dateline and 20/20) will work.
  • “These idiot murderers... Takes her out in a boat and she disappears, and he thinks that that's gonna work.” — B [15:01]
  • Armstrong gently addresses anyone even vaguely tempted: “You will get caught. You will be in a cage for the rest of your life. Just take the other choice, no matter how painful—divorce, lawsuit, whatever.” — A [16:10]

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3. Iran, Trump, and the Murky Ceasefire

(Timestamps: 17:11 – 31:56)

Key Discussion Points

• Alleged Ceasefire: Who Won? What’s Real?

  • Confusion reigns over details: Both Trump and Iranian officials declare victory; the Strait of Hormuz is reopening but under Iranian supervision.
  • “There are many unanswered questions about what’s actually been agreed and achieved.” — A [17:11]
  • Trump suggests a new toll system for ships through the strait, even mentioning a “joint venture” with Iran: “We’re thinking of doing this as a joint venture. It’s a way of securing it, also securing it from lots of other people. It’s a beautiful thing.” — A quoting Trump [22:52]
  • Getty’s scorn: “If that is the result, Trump will be impeached, and he should be.” — A [22:52]

• Skepticism & Media Spin

  • Iranian and US versions of the ceasefire disagree fundamentally over key issues like uranium and the nuclear program.
  • “They haven’t ceased firing, is my objection.” — A [26:42]
  • Worldwide markets and some media sources express guarded relief, but hosts note nothing substantive may have changed yet.

• Who's Really in Charge in Iran?

  • Power may be in flux following the deaths or incapacitation of key Iranian leaders in the recent conflict.
  • “They are dealing with somebody that's nominally in charge right now. They can't say it out loud because they're trying to figure out how to consolidate power and deal with the people that want them dead.” — B [30:48]
  • Theorizing about “businessmen vs. religious fanatics” vying for Iran’s future leadership.

• Notable Quotes

  • “Operation Epic Fury was a historic and overwhelming victory on the battlefield. A capital V military victory by any measure…” — Pete Hegseth [29:36]
  • “The only way a state can survive is if it has a monopoly on violence.” — B, attributing the concept [31:44]

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4. Viral McDonald’s Video & K-Shaped Economy

(Timestamps: 32:02 – 35:18)

Notable Segment

• Humor Break: The $83 McDonald's Order
  • Viral story: ordering 11 Big Breakfasts and an Egg McMuffin for a large family.
  • Commentary on how McDonald’s caters to both the newly affluent and price-sensitive, with a “K-shaped menu”.
  • Product talk: McSpicy Wings, Big Arch sandwiches, and evolving consumer tastes.

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• On Educational Policy
  • “They tried to achieve equity not by raising the floor, but by lowering the ceiling. It’s a problem we see nationally, just horrible.” — A [02:59]
• On True Crime’s Predictability
  • “What is it with the murderous idiots?” — B [15:33]
• On US-Iran Ceasefire Spin
  • "If that is the result, Trump will be impeached, and he should be." — A [22:52]
  • “They haven’t ceased firing, is my objection.” — A [26:42]
• On the Decline of School Quality
  • “You cannot at all assume your kid is learning basic reading, writing, and arithmetic or that their grade means anything.” — B [10:10]

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Major Segment Timestamps

• 00:27 – 13:09 — American Education Crisis & Activism in Schools
• 13:10 – 16:54 — Bahamian Murder Case & "Murderous Idiots"
• 17:11 – 31:56 — Iran Ceasefire, Geopolitical Uncertainty, and Media Skepticism
• 32:02 – 35:18 — McDonald's Viral Video & Economic Trends

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Tone & Style

• Direct, irreverent, and often incredulous; a blend of sincere concern, sarcasm, and black humor.
• Willing to challenge both left and right, with pointed critiques and exasperated asides.

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For listeners new to Armstrong & Getty, this episode offers a microcosm of their style: skeptical, unsparing, and always ready to cut through headline spin—whether analyzing education policy failure, unraveling true crime idiocy, or dissecting international affairs.

Transcript

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This is an iHeart podcast, guaranteed human broadcasting.

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Live from the Abraham Lincoln radio Studio

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at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Armstrong and Getty.

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And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

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President Trump forged this moment. Iran begged for this ceasefire and we all know it as the President. Truth this morning, a big day for world peace. Iran wants it to happen. They've had enough.

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Boy, I hope all that's true. Doesn't seem that it's obviously true. So we'll talk more about that later this hour. What happened last night? What has been agreed to or not agreed to so far? It's quite a mystery to practically everybody.

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Stay tuned. We'll hit it hard. Maybe the bottom of this hour.

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Yesterday it's at its height, oil was $112 a barrel. Right now it's 91. So you got that.

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Stay with us. Disruption has its own costs. If you can tweak something as opposed to blowing it up, often that's a good deal, whether a relationship or a job or just there are a thousand examples. Sometimes something needs to be disrupted and the downside of the disruption just has to be dealt with. And I would argue that's where we are with America's government schools at this point. And on that topic, a handful of pieces of information I've come across. San Francisco school officials voted last week to restore 8th grade algebra more than a decade after the district eliminated the course in the name of equity, which attracted intense criticism as math stores. Scores declined across the district. So it's good that they backtracked from a horrifically stupid policy. But the school board approved that measure by a 4 to 3 vote.

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Wow. And it lasted 10 years.

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The district policy, implemented in 2014 at San Francisco, led the charge toward absolutely insane. Abusive education policies removed algebra from middle schools in an attempt to give minority students more time to learn basic math skills. Instead, Math proficiency declined across the district among all cohorts, including among black students, 8th grade math proficiency in San Francisco public schools fell from 51% to 40% in the space of six years.

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Well, 51% is all horror, right? That starting number is a horror.

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And how did this program work equity wise, Jack? Proficiency among black students fell from 11% to 4%. Wow. Parents who could afford tutors or enrolling their kids in summer school often did paying out of pocket under the old policy. San Francisco. This is a quote from a Stanford economist. They tried to achieve equity not by raising the floor, but by lowering the ceiling. It's a problem we see nationally, just horrible. That's enough of that though.

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God dang it. Even in general, it's really hard to know how much kids are learning at school unless you're like questioning them themselves because they will give your kids good grades and just pass them along and you have no idea.

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Yes, absolutely. Now from the right leaning New York Post, this is an article or an editorial by Dr. Carrie Ingram, who's an education specialist. Schools should educate children, not Train activists America's public education system has drifted dangerously from its core mission. Schools exist to educate people. Children obviously teach them how to read, write, think critically, understand the world around them. But across the country, many classrooms are increasingly focused on something else entirely. They are bent on turning students into political activists. And man, she runs through a nationwide checklist of school children, little children participating in anti ICE drills and protests. It's the latest example of political propaganda forced on kids during the school day in New York. Footage shows a preschool teacher encouraging children to talk about how they feel about ICE and President Trump, obviously based on the so called education they've received from their teacher in Boston. Here's a video of an elementary school teacher showing her little kids marching around the classroom holding signs chanting no Donald Trump. No Donald Trump. It's full on activist training with taxpayer dollars during the school day. And she which would be horrible on

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its own if reading and math were at 95% proficiency. It would be awful and a danger to society. But you got both ends are bad.

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Agreed. Students are taught to organize demonstrations, participate in protests, and adopt ideological positions on complex public issues. Things they don't have the facts or context for, and often before they've even mastered basic academic skills. To Jack's point. Then she restates your argument. More or less. Alternately, it's increasingly replaced with lessons instead of reading, math, science and history, lessons centered on activism, grievance and personal political identity. This isn't preparing students for success, it's distracting them from the very education they desperately need. And she goes into some of the miserable results and more examples of the activism. The largest teachers union, the National Education association, is training teachers right now. They're growing these programs in advancing LGBTQ justice and transgender advocacy rather than how to teach reading, writing and math. Not, not like transgender awareness, but advocacy. And obviously, as she makes the point, kids are not learning to think critically and how to think. They're learning what they must think. There's only one belief that's allowed and it is drilled into them. I wish we had time for this whole article because it is very, very good. But I was Struck by this. The left leaning. It'll leaning. Please lean so far it's gonna fall over and crack its head. The left leaning Atlantic with their big feature article. America is sliding toward illiteracy, declining standards and low expectations are destroying American education.

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I would go with have destroyed, but

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I would say have perverted and screwed a couple of generations of children already, folks. I mean, we're all familiar with the oft stated truism that we didn't know what was happening in the classrooms till Covid and parents looked over their kids shoulders and were like, what the hell? Here's the bad news that had been going on for some time and it's still going on now. They just know they have to keep it a little more covert. And I beg you, I beg you to believe me. I'm not a paranoiac with some sort of agenda. Just trying to keep you listening. This is true. Let me quote a little from the Atlantic. The past decade may rank as one of the worst in the history of American education. So they easily.

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Not in the least. That doesn't surprise me. In the least.

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It marks a stark reversal from what was once a hopeful story. At the start of the century. This century, American students registered steady improvements in math and reading. Around 2013, this progress began to stall out and then to backslide dramatically. What exactly went wrong? The decline began well before the pandemic. So Covid era disruptions alone cannot explain it. Smartphones and social media probably account for some of the drop. But there's another explanation, albeit one that progressives in particular seem reluctant to countenance. A pervasive refusal to hold children to high standards. And I would argue, and progressives are absolutely as unwilling to consider this substituting indoctrination for learning.

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Oh my God. I. This is a tough subject for me to engage in and not lose my mind because I've lived it. Because my kids, you know, the last decade, we've fallen off a cliff. My kids are 16 and 14, so I've lived this. I've had teachers tell me your kid is grade level and then quizzed him and found out, no, he's freaking.

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Not, not even close.

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Not even close. What are you doing?

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We are now seeing what the lost decade in American education has wrought, they write in the Atlantic. By some measures, American students have regressed to a level not seen in 25 years or more. Test scores from the national association of Educational Process Progress, rather released this year, show that 33% of eighth graders are reading at a level that is below basic. A third of Them, meaning that they struggle to follow the order of events in a passage or even to summarize its main idea. Boy. But they can tell you that about all the different genders, that is the highest share of students unable to meaningfully read since 1992. Among fourth graders, 40% are below basic in reading, the highest share since 2000. In 2024, the average score on the ACT, the popular College Admissions Standardized Test, was 19.4, the worst average performance since the test was redesigned in 1990. American school children have given up almost all of the gains they achieved at the start of the century. And they mentioned that parents with more money have put their kids in private schools, hired tutors, et cetera. But the masses of people in, say, the bottom 80% of income who might not have had those opportunities or not been aware of how critical it was to exercise them have seen miserable, miserable results. And this is the progressive agenda and teachers unions at work. Well, for many years, a major disruption of our government schools.

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Now, if you grew up the way I grew up, most of us did, where your parents could assume that you're learning to read and write and that if you're getting A's and B's or C's or whatever, you're roughly doing okay and everything, but that those years are. I don't know when it ended, but those days are over. You cannot at all assume your kid is learning basic reading, writing and arithmetic or that their grade means anything.

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I will restate what I've said many times. You may be in the ruby reddest town in America. There is an island of deep blue in your town. It is your government schools. Trust me on this. Here's another great article point rather from the far left Atlantic. A seemingly plausible culprit and a familiar boogeyman for progressives is insufficient spending. The problem with this tidy explanation is that it's not tethered to reality. School spending did not decline from 2012 to 2022. In fact, it increased significantly even after adjusting for inflation, from $14,000 a student to more than 16,000 and a great, great deal more in more expensive places. Oh, boy. And they go into the financing and more or less just we're spending more

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than we've ever spent per student, adjusted for inflation and getting less. That's the only thing you need to know.

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Besides, America recently ran a very large natural experiment in dropping money on schools that, in a word, failed. He goes into the details. Michael Petrelli, the president of the Thomas B. Fordham Institute in Education Policy think tank, said, and I quote, and I'm going to use the term spit for obvious reasons here, the scientific term for this is that we didn't get jack spit out of that money. There are some studies that can detect small impacts, but they're small. I think it's also fair to say that a lot of the money was wasted. I mean, obviously, we could go on all day. I will not step even a tiny baby step back from my statement that I've made more than once. The biggest crisis, the biggest problem the United States of America faces right now is the indoctrination and lack of education of our children. China as a threat pales next to it, as does Iran. End of screed for now.

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Well, and they'll all fit together eventually.

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Well, and the fact that all of this, all of this, the progressivism is being pushed hard by China through TikTok, among other things, and Russia and all of our adversaries, they are bankrolling the crap out of it. Who do you think George Soros is? What do you think he believes? Why do you think he's financing what he is? To bring down the great evil United States. All right, that's the end of my

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screen day one of my son's public school history class. They had to write the land acknowledgement. That's what they did in history class on day one. He's no longer in that class. But

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tear it all down.

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It's unreal. Any comments? Text line 415295 KFTC ARMSTRONG and GETTY. So we're going to talk about the ceasefire and what we know and what we don't know coming up in just a little bit. But we didn't. Because Trump threatened to end a civilization yesterday. We didn't get around to this story. Oh, my God.

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Yeah.

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Maybe you just heard the broad outlines of it two days ago when it first emerged of dude goes out in a boat with his wife. He comes back, swims back saying wife fell overboard.

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He paddled back saying his wife fell overboard with the boat key in her hand so he couldn't start the engine. So it took him a very long time to get back to report her missing. So that was all I heard.

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Maybe all you was there anybody, unless you haven't watched enough 2020 or Dateline in your life, who didn't immediately jump to the he killed her. Yeah, immediately. Anyways, so here's the latest development in the story.

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The desperate search in the Bahamas for Michigan mother Lynette Hooker, who went missing during a nighttime boat ride with her husband Brian Hooker has entered day three. Speaking to CBS News, Carly Aylesworth, Lynette's daughter, says the two had a rocky relationship. Their relationship has been a lot of fighting and drinking lately. So I'm just kind of questioning what actually went on in that dinghy. Royal Bahamian police say Brian told investigators Lynette fell over from an eight foot hard bottom dinghy with the keys to the boat and was carried away by strong rip currents. Ellsworth says her mother is an experienced swimmer and boater and doesn't believe his story adds up.

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Okay, that doesn't include the daughter. Also saying yesterday he had once threatened to drown her. And I just. I mean, obviously this is not funny. It's just. It's incredible to me that these idiot murderers, like the guy on the cliff in Hawaii, took out a insurance policy on his wife, then a week later, you know, beats. Tries to beat her to death with a rock and throw off a cliff and thinks he's gonna get away with it. This guy had been getting into fights, say, I'm gonna kill you. I'm gonna drown you. And then takes her out in a boat and she disappears. And he thinks that that's gonna work

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and he makes up this elaborate story that conveniently explains, like, every aspect of it and makes it look like he's not a murderer.

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What is it with the murderous idiots?

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Well, and the guy in Hawaii was a doctor. I mean, he was very bright. But some people must have a blind spot imagining how their story is going to sound to another person. I mean, because that boat story, like you said, everybody reacted the same way. Wait a minute.

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We all reacted that way before. We heard from the daughter who said, yeah, he'd been threatening to kill her for a while.

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Oh, yeah, that's pleased. It's over.

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What? Yeah, it's. It's so unfortunate that so many bad things happen at the hands of complete idiots.

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Yeah. I hope this is nobody in our audience, but if there's somebody vexing you in your life and you're thinking about killing them, number one, you will get caught and you will be in a cage for the rest of your life. Number two, just go through the other choice. And no matter how painful it might be of divorce or lawsuit or whatever.

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Yeah, she fell overboard with the key. And you see, and yeah, you're right. And you know what's gonna happen? We're just gonna say, damn, that's a shame. You know, my prayers are with you. Go and live your life now without your wife burdening your soul, because it's

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never your angry drunk spouse who commits that sort of crime. So I guess you're free to go, you moron.

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Oh, unbelievable. Did Iran get everything it wanted or close to it? Or did Trump get everything he wanted? We can get into some of the details on that coming up. The details that are known, which aren't many.

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Armstrong and Getty. The president declaring victory. So is the Iranian regime as it announces that the country is going to temporarily halt retaliatory attacks in the region to allow these negotiations to take place. It also says it's going to reopen the critical Strait of Hormuz for the next two weeks. But honestly, there are many unanswered questions about what's actually been agreed and achieved. Although the Strait of Hormuz will reopen, for now it'll be controlled by the Iranian military, whereas before the war there was free passage for all vessels.

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I'm trying to come up with the most charitable view of this I possibly can. Maybe. Maybe the problem that some of us are making is not recognizing that this is just a pause for negotiations. This is not anything having been accomplished. Just both sides have proposals. Let's stop the fighting and then sit down and talk about these proposals.

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And as I suggested earlier, also get a grip on who are the new guys, who's in charge and what are

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their attitudes with the idea that we could restart the ass kicking. Right. If they don't agree.

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Got this note, just real briefly. Dave from South Carolina, Loyal Day from South Carolina. We assume that, Dave, you're the loyal sir. Can you act a little bit happier that we're not at war today and hell didn't break loose the way you thought it was going to yesterday? That's why I haven't watched the mainstream media since 2020. I swear, a lot of people seem bummed out today that the war didn't happen like they thought it would. Markets way up, disaster averted, beautiful spring weather, Life's good. Go buy some stocks, boys. Which is funny. I think I would describe it, Dave, as there was a giant hornet's nest in the attic and today was the day that the battle was going to begin. Then the exterminator said, nah, it's going to be fine. And I'm like, there's still a hornet's nest in the attic. That's where we are.

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Yeah. So the problem with my Rosie scenario is that's not what the Trump administration is saying. They're saying that Iran has agreed to all this stuff and there's no indication that they actually have Right now, maybe that's just Trump being the salesman with the presumptive clothes or whatever.

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Here.

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Here's a rosy view before we get to some of the less rosy views. Former ambassador to Oman, his name is Mike Mark Sievers. He tweeted this out. My take on the ceasefire. Iran blinked just yesterday. The regime rejected a temporary ceasefire and refused to meet in Islamabad. Overnight, they took President Trump's threats seriously. There is no way to bridge Iran's 10 points with America's 15. So the outcome of negotiations depends on whether Iran accepts the fundamental US Demands. Removal of highly enriched uranium, no further enrichment, dismantlement of the ballistic missile and drone capacity, an end to funding and directing regional proxies, and a full reopening of the Strait of Hormuz. We'll see soon enough. Well, there's no indication that they're going to agree to any of those things. They have never hinted that they're going to do any of those things. And they're claiming to their own people and anybody who asks they haven't agreed to those things. And they won't.

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Yeah. If there is an explanation to square that circle, whatever that expression means, I don't know what it is and I'm working as hard as I can to imagine it. Now, the. Okay, here's. Here's one possibility. The shaky, newish leaders of Iran trying to coalesce their control over the military in the country, are anxious not to signal any sort of weakness lest more militant factions push them aside. So they're talking to Washington while claiming to be hard asses at home.

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That's a good angle. And that could be one of those things that, you know, with 2020 hindsight, 20 years from now, when the details come out, it'll all make sense, because this does happen a lot. Read some history of some major ending of conflicts or peace deals or whatever. There's so many things going on behind the scenes that you don't know about, that you can't know about. Maybe that's it. Maybe. Maybe the people kind of in charge in Iran have told Trump and Witkoff that the only way we're holding on is by pretending to be a hard ass. Otherwise we're dead and then you'll be negotiating with the real crazies. And so we've got to at least protect. That's possible. That is absolutely 100% possible.

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The businessmen are trying to wrest control away from the religious fanatics. Yeah, it's possible.

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For what we know, though, Trump said, quote from his own post, complete immediate and safe opening of the Strait of Hormuz. The Financial Times and others are reporting that as of this morning, Iran is demanding that shipping companies pay tolls in cryptocurrency for oil tankers to pass through the Strait of Hormuz. The strait was free to pass through before the war started, and as of today, it looks like you got to pay Iran a toll. Now, Jonathan Karl just tweeted out that he had a conversation on the phone with President Trump, and Trump said he's okay with the Iranians charging a toll for all the ships that go through the Strait of Hormuz. He said, we're thinking of doing this as a joint venture, a US Iran venture, to charge tolls. Quote, we're thinking of doing this as a joint venture. It's a way of securing it, also securing it from lots of other people. It's a beautiful thing.

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If that is the result, Trump will be impeached, and he should be. So we bombed the bejesus out of Iran. They become more militant and seize control of the Strait of Hormuz, but they promise to share some of the booty with us. And we say, okay, it's a deal.

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Because in Trump's mind, we weren't getting any money for ships going through previously, and now we are. So that's good. Yes. The people of Iran still live under a horrifying regime that is gonna seek out anybody who said an even slightly kind word about the United States over the last month, and they're gonna torture him to death and hang them in the streets.

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With all due respect to the horrors that the people of Iran suffer, I'm more concerned about the US and our allies. Will Iran continue to export Islamic fundamentalist terror? How about that aspect? I don't care how big a slice we're getting of the action in the Strait of Hormuz. If they keep doing that, how about

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the main reason for the war? Do they hang on to the uranium and keep working on trying to get a bomb?

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Questions piled on. Questions.

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Now, Trump said this morning that Iran is going to help us dig up the uranium and get it out of the country. That's hard to imagine. I suppose it's possible, but it seems unlikely. But. Well, the only thing we have to go on right now is Trump's own quotes. Today. We're thinking of charging a toll as a joint venture, and it's a way of securing it from lots of other people. It's a beautiful thing. That's where we're going to end up.

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Yeah, I'm Digging. I'm trying to come up with any clues. International relief was tempered by uncertainty over what comes next.

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There also is this. This has been reported. I saw it on MSNBC and Fox. Our version of the agreement of the ceasefire is they give up their nuclear program and we get the uranium back. The Farsi version that Iran put out doesn't include that. That's a pretty major point. It's the reason the war happened.

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Hey, somebody hit copy. They forgot to hit paste. It happens. Oh, boy.

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I'm.

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I'm. I'm reading some of the statements of the people involved, and I just. I don't know. There's just. There's no knowing at this point. Shipping companies signaled that they were cautious about resuming transit through the waterway. Handful of ships have been observed moving through each day since the war began. Blah, blah, blah. Israel said the ceasefire did not extend to Lebanon on Wednesday carried out its largest strike against Hezbollah since that front opened up. Yes.

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So the agreement out of Islamabad said that Israel did need to stop attacking Lebanon and Hezbollah. Israel said, we don't agree with that. And they've hit them more today than they have at any point over the last month.

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Further highlighting the fragility of the truth truce, such as it is, Iran's state media reported that an oil refinery on Levan, an Iranian island in the Persian Gulf, was struck by unspecified enemies. Fresh Iranian attacks were also reported in some Persian Gulf countries. Kuwait's Defense Ministry said that its air defenses had engaged with at least 28 drones from Iran, despite the ceasefire. Investors welcome the ceasefire after weeks of war. They haven't ceased firing, is my objection.

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I give more leeway to that. Just because the ends of lots of wars have included continuing to fire stuff off for a while, it's hard to get everybody on board, I guess.

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And here's the key sentence. Worldwide relief at the pause in fighting was tempered by confusion over what would come next.

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Yeah, so this is Financial Times. Trump says US and Iran will dig up and remove nuclear material. You know, big if true, as they say. Mark Halpern from his newsletter Today said if there is a Trump masterstroke coming, it will emanate from a place that is currently hidden from analysts about what happened and what happens next. Yeah, what did happen last night? What is actually being. Was anything agreed to?

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Critics of Mr. Netanyahu's called the ceasefire a diplomatic disaster and accused him of failing to achieve his stated war goal of destroying Iran's theocratic government. Let's see, what else?

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Let's go with. Let's hear from Pete Hegseth presenting the other side of this, starting with 60 and run through a couple of these, Michael.

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Iran has been a threat to the United States and the free world for 47 years. Chance of death to America, targeting our people, killing Americans, lying and blackmailing their way toward a nuclear weapon. So they thought no longer not on our watch is.

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Never mind everything we just said. Sorry to have wasted your time.

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Well, is that true? I mean, could surely Pete Hegseth wouldn't go out and say that if there wasn't some chance that it's true, but I can't imagine how it is. Did the agreement include. Because the weird beard junior is in charge. He's the Ayatollah.

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He's in a coma. He isn't in charge of squat. That's my opinion.

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Okay, so you think there's a new regime in charge that's not going to chant Death to America and is going to tell, you know, the however many million people in Iran that believe that sort of thing, hey, no more death to America. We're kind of friends with them now, don't you think that we're charging.

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No, no. But Pete Heggs that seems to.

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Does he believe that, though?

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I think I don't have the slightest more from Pete.

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This is just a couple hours ago.

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President Trump forged this moment. Iran begged for this ceasefire and we all know it as the President Truth this morning. A big day for world peace. Iran wants it to happen. They've had enough.

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I'm not trying to just be Captain. Negative. But they probably did beg for a ceasefire. It includes we now control the Strait of Hormuz and get to charge a toll. And according to our version in Farsi of the ceasefire, we get to keep our uranium. So, yeah, I'm all for the ceasefire, they might say. I would beg for that ceasefire too.

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Pete goes on.

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Operation Epic Fury was a historic and overwhelming victory on the battlefield. A capital V military victory by any measure. Epic Fury decimated Iran's military and rendered it combat ineffective for years to come.

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Okay, fair enough. I think this next clip is the key clip. If there is a key clip.

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This new regime just happened to look at what happened to their predecessors. Their top leadership was systematically eliminated. The previous Iranian supreme leader, dead. The supreme National Security Council secretary, dead. The Supreme Leader office advisor dead. The Supreme Leader military office chief dead. The Defense Minister no longer with us. The IRGC commander dead. The Armed Forces General Staff commander, dead. The Intelligence minister dead. The IRGC Navy commander no longer here. The IRGC intel chief Dead.

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So the most charitable view is what you were saying. They are dealing with somebody that's nominally in charge right now. They can't say it out loud because they're trying to figure out how to consolidate power and, and, you know, deal with the people that want them dead. They, they, they have agreed and said, yeah, we're fine with not having a nuclear weapon. Fine with us. We'll give you the uranium and the

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straight can be for killing the lunatics, by the way.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're going to try to run the country. I hope we can all be friends. Maybe we're dealing with a group of people that are saying that and they're trying to consolidate. I heard this phrase one time, maybe from Henry Kissinger, somebody like that. The only way a state, a nation can survive is if it has a monopoly on violence. You have to have a monopoly on violence. They're trying to come up with a monopoly on violence so there's not other groups out there that can, you know, challenge them.

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And the keys to the treasury. Yeah, exactly. I mean, if that is true, that's an incredibly, incredibly encouraging development. Big if we'll wait and see.

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God, I would say. Holy crap. All right, any thoughts? You can text us or email us.

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Armstrong and Getty, I'm gonna start for you today. I need Egg McMuffin and I need 11 big breakfasts with the hotcakes. You said 11 big breakfast. 11, yes. All right, just a warning. That will take probably a while. Well, I got eight hungry kids at the house, so. Yeah, that's cool, bro. Give me a second. I need manager approval. Need manager approval. Anything else for you today? No, that'll be it. You're looking at 83. 34.

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83.

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Okay, thanks, Guy. First of all, Chuckles McGruff there was taking it all in a good spirit. Apparently that's a quote unquote viral video. He's got a big family, blah, blah, blah. There's actually a follow up story. You need manager approval if you order

[B]

like more than what, four biscuits or

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something, because the other customers will have to wait for longer than they want. Actually, that might relate to the follow up story that I've got, which we barely have time for. But interestingly, and we can come back to this later, there's just absolutely no question that Americans have been getting richer over the last 30, 40 years. The middle class is smaller because the upper middle class is much bigger. Every quintile is improving in virtually every single way. And the populists on the left and right are all wrong. We can get back to that next hour. But interestingly this. You remember the kind of wussy McDonald's CEO who was nibbling at the new burger? There's a great article in the journal about how McDonald's is dealing with a K shaped economy and a K shaped menu. They have one cohort of their audience who wants, like, better food and are willing to pay 8, 9 bucks for a burger. That's fine. Absolutely fine. There's a huge chunk of their business that needs the low priced, extra special cheapo stuff. And they're trying to figure out how to cater to both audiences.

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Give me the stuff you dropped on the floor

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for my kids. That's okay, bro. Yeah. So they're experimenting with plump, juicy McSpicy wings. $6 for four pieces. They're more than twice as expensive as the equivalent number of McNuggets, but they're much higher quality. The McNugget. Let's see. The review says they felt bigger than what I got at my last visit to Buffalo. Wild wings. The hand breaded crispiness rivaled raising canes.

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Oh, wow. My son wanted to try those when they were there at the McDonald's a couple weeks ago, but they were out for some reason. So they must be popular.

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Must be.

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And then I got that new sandwich that the CEO tried and hated it. Personally, I didn't like that one.

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But the big arch.

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The big arch I did not like. And I love McDonald's.

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That's true. Maybe you're cut out for the dollar menu. Hey, we're dollar menu kid people. Kids. It's all right.

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That probably fits. Okay, we got more on the way

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in hour three, Armstrong and Getty.