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Joe Getty
And the reporting today from everyone coming out of South Korea that North Korea might be sending 100,000 troops to Russia. Hundred thousand, which is really something. And the New York Times saying today that the whole Biden allowing the new weaponry is all about shoring up Ukraine before Trump comes in because he's worried Trump is going to be, you know, less supportive of Ukraine. What kind of theory is that? You either support Ukraine or you not. Your timetable shouldn't be based on whether or not Trump's coming in. I don't get that at all.
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Jack Armstrong
Well, yeah, let's not get started about the Biden foreign policy and their support for Ukraine. Let's talk to military analyst Mike Lyons about this topic and a couple of others. There's a great deal to discuss. Mike. Hi, how are you?
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Mike Lyons
Hey, good morning, guys. Great to be back with you.
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Joe Getty
So will these ATACMS weapons, now that they can fire them into Russia, make much difference?
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Mike Lyons
No, they really won't. It's also daylight dollars short. And it just goes to show you that this administration has not allowed Ukraine to fight this war. They've just tried to manage it. And what we've managed is the slow demise and the degradation of Ukraine's military assets. We've allowed Ukraine nothing when it comes to going on the offensive. And it's allowed Russia to rearm refit itself in those times when Ukraine was just trying to seize the initiative. So at this point, to your point, or it has to do with trying to Trump proof this, they're getting as many pieces of equipment, I guess, to Ukraine as possible. ATACMs are just deep artillery fires that can go well into Russia. They'll target, let's say, airstrips and logistics facilities. And they're only allowed to be used in the Kursk region, which again, I don't understand either. They've also put that restriction on them as well. You still don't see Storm Shadow from the Brits. You still don't see other weapons coming from NATO. So the bottom line is it's going to make no difference whatsoever. And it's just to the point of when the Trump administration is going to come in and seeing what they're going to do.
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Jack Armstrong
Just out of curiosity, Mike, we get the argument via email, text, whatever from folks are of the more JD Vance, Ukraine is not our problem philosophy saying, hey, we're going to cause World War 3 for something that's not in our strategic interests. How do you respond to them?
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Mike Lyons
I think strategically you have to look at this as deterrence and as the fact of if you're going by an order that says one country can invade its neighbor, but we're past that now four years, three years past that time of trying to reestablish it, it's going to have to be reestablished, you know, quickly. I think it's starting to be reestablished in the Middle east, for example, with the Trump administration coming in, going to allow Israel to, I believe, going to attack Iranian nuclear facility. But no, it is our problem. It's Europe's problem. It's something that we have to take the lead on and the like. I don't think we need to again send American soldiers, but we could have supported Ukraine initially from the beginning, this drip, drip, drip of how we've supported them and how again, it's been about managing this as opposed to letting Ukraine fight the war. So to say that it's not necessarily our problem is not really the whole truth.
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Joe Getty
I don't think Russia had their worst month of the entire war this past month lost nearly 1500 men a day casualties. That's a stunning number. And now they're reporting today 100,000 North Korean troops may be on the way. How do you react to all that stuff?
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Mike Lyons
Yeah, I don't know how 100,000 troops are going to get there. I mean, it's a long train ride from wherever they're coming from. So there's that. That's a pretty big logistical challenge. It would take them months for that to happen. But the ones that are there, they could become targeted. Let's say those attacks could be targeting those military areas where they think that those troops are going to be and those guys are going to get there and find out very quickly that this is the last place in the world they want to be. So I don't know. I think that there's a lot of logistics to still figure out whether how you're going to get 100,000 troops from virtually that part of the World from North Korea into Russia in a manner and then get them to the battlefield. That seems a pretty long, long task to get accomplished.
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Joe Getty
Just in general, the idea of North Korean troops using Iranian weapons while Russia is funded by Chinese money. That's a lot of countries involved in a war.
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Mike Lyons
Oh, yeah, who had that on their bingo card for this year? Right. North Korean troops inside of Russia fighting against Ukraine. No one did. And this is exactly what this Biden administration is allowed to happen. It's allowed this access of these allies between Russia, China. I think India is now more aligned with China than they've ever been before. North Korea, Iran and then the Houthis still, as the Russians can still fund things that are going on for the Houthis to attack Americans. So deterrence needs to be reestablished very quickly in the new Trump administration. I think you're going to see them try to do that. They'll do it in both ways, I think carrot and stick in this way. In Ukraine in particular, they'll try to do a business deal. I think they'll try to convince Russia that they don't want to be this vassal state of China. I think that the deep down, that's kind of what's going on right now. And Russia perceives itself to be a world power. I think Donald Trump will try to make a deal with the Russians in a business like transaction to kind of pay them off for stopping the war and then allow them this latitude to potentially become a great world power again. And Vladimir Putin might go for that. We'll see.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Studying the frenemyship of China and Russia through the decades is a really interesting thing. And I love the idea of trying to drive a wedge as we have in the past, but closer to home. Jack, did you want to get into the SecDef thing?
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Joe Getty
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We saw. I saw you tweet something in support of people of your rank with Hexaf being named the candidate for SecDev. You guys had the same rank?
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Mike Lyons
Yeah, we retired army major. So I thought that was pretty funny there. I met Pete a couple times. I don't know him that well or anything like that, but he's smart guy, disruptive type, individual. I think once he gets to the Pentagon, hopefully he can make it there, but he'll bring this perspective of, I think, being closer to the troops. And I think that general officers talk a good game about it, but frankly, ours are so far removed of it. They're thinking about strategy and they're thinking about things at such a high level. I Think right now he's. It would be an individual that I think would work out well from a disruptive capability. You know, Pete Hegsett's gonna go into the Pentagon and put a sign in every conference room in the Pentagon that says, the priority of the military is to fight and win the nation's wars. And every meeting that takes place in that conference room is gonna say, well, the purpose of this meeting is not to accomplish that objective. We're not meeting. We're not talking about it. So I think you're going to see a lot of things go by the wayside, frankly, that this administration has tried to force through the military the past four years. They've used the military as social reengineering. It's something, unfortunately, Democrats have done in the past as opposed to trying to recognize that the military reflects society, but then not become an experiment for society. So I think that he'll look to change a lot of those kinds of things.
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Jack Armstrong
I realize this is a really philosophical question, but around here, we believe that to a large extent, the US has become a country that is just too comfortable with the status quo. And all agents of change seem like dangerous and frightening. Which is not to say if a guy's an outright lunatic, you need to embrace him because he's, quote, unquote, an agent of change. But, boy, we feel like an overripe fruit to me, and I think a change would be welcome. At least give it a try.
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Mike Lyons
Yeah. And I'm concerned about, once again, our lack of creativity of what our enemies can do to us. Anything from bring commercial ships along our coastlines and have them become Trojan horses for missile attacks. There's lots of things that I'm not sure that we're really defending, and we could be falling asleep at the switch in a lot of ways, but it takes this change from the top. It's going to take the change from Donald Trump on through. There's no question when Pete Heg says if he gets to the Pentagon and becomes secdef will have intention of accomplishing his objectives, and they'll be crystal clear to everybody around him, you'll know how to act in the absence of any kind of guidance. And so I think that he'll do that. The number two, the other thing that we needed that he needs to do is budgetary and get the military back aligned with. We've given a lot of equipment to Ukraine. We've given a lot of equipment out, and I think we need to go back to a little bit of a war footing right now. And restock some of the things that we've had because we've been giving it away. I think that's another important mission for him to do.
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Joe Getty
Well, so some of the pushback on him is, you know, never having run a giant organization like this and who has, it's the biggest bureaucracy in the world. But like if you were given that job, would that be something you could figure out or how do, how do you see that knock on him?
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Mike Lyons
Well, I think he's going to have to pick subordinates that maybe have a little bit of that experience. We'll see that. That'll be the telling sign is who's who. The deputy section secretary of defenses will be in these different areas. They won't be from the swamp, I can tell you that. There'll be individuals that, you know, maybe will come from some of the think tanks that are out there. Maybe they will come from the retired military ranks. I mean, he knows, he knows high ranking general officers. He does know who they are and he'll, he'll pick probably some of them. So it's not just going to be him alone, I think. And you're right, that's, that's the knock on him. But you can argue greatest strength, greatest weakness in that regard. So that could be something that could, that could become to his strength as well. He's not beholden to anybody. He's not beholden to industrial military complex. He's not beholden to anybody. So we'll see how it goes, right?
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. I would rather see a fighter, an agent of change who employs bureaucratic experts than a bureaucratic expert at the top who then chooses, you know, people who are arguably involved in the fighting. Mike, we didn't really get a chance to get into China much. They are obviously gearing up as fast as they can to take us on, but perhaps another day. We appreciate the time very much. Thanks for sure, guys.
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Mike Lyons
Thanks for having me.
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Jack Armstrong
Yep, of course.
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Joe Getty
Boy, that is really something. Zelinsky did an interview yesterday and he is making all kinds of positive noise about Trump taking over as president and his ability to wind the war down, everything like that. I don't know if that's just recognizing that Trump's the guy now. So I want to be on his good side.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Trump responds to flattery, obviously. And also and Zelensky smart enough to have discerned this, that Trump is a tough guy. And if Zelensky can spin it, that man, does Putin think he can push the US Around. That's something he thinks you're a punk. Right. He said Biden's a punk, which he is, by the way. Don't say I said this, but Biden is a punk and he thinks you're a punk, too, Mr. Trump. What do you say to that?
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Joe Getty
The Economist was reporting last week. I didn't get to it that Zelensky could be in political trouble next presidential election. There's some somebody going to run against him that is very well liked in the country. And Zelinski's ratings are down just because people are tired of the war, which happens.
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Jack Armstrong
I ask Winston Churchill about that. Yeah, it happens.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. God dang it. It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out. The idea that the attack comes, that Biden just gave the go ahead won't make any difference is highly troubling. Obviously, the idea of North Korean troops by the tens of thousands showing up in the war is highly troubling. Good Lord.
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Jack Armstrong
I wonder if that's actually happening or is that a threat. You say South Korea is talking about it. Huh?
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Joe Getty
They, they broke the story. And every legit news service is reporting.
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Jack Armstrong
It today that South Korea is saying it or that it's actually happening, that.
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Joe Getty
It is going to happen. It's not happening yet.
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Jack Armstrong
Okay. Yeah, I'm, I'm always wary of the comey effect where you got that, what do you, what's it called, circular logic or backbiting or what's good for the goose where you leak a story and then confirm it in the press.
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Joe Getty
Right. Yeah. Elon Musk with a controversial T shirt at the big wrestling match at Madison Square Garden, among other things on the way. Stay tuned.
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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
Referee Mark Colloid warning Paul not to measure. But he measured him and then he hit him with a right and left. Tyson coming forward but Paul is landing the cleaner, effective punches. See, we got two final minutes and Tyson breathing heavily as he makes his way back to the court. Yeah, probably because he's old.
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Joe Getty
I think that was like Round two where he was breathing so heavily. I mean he walked like an old man. The first after the first round, he walked like an old man back to the stool, sat down. Wide eye was just. His chest was just heaving. I thought, oh, my God, if you're this tired after the first two minutes, did you actually train, or is this just the problem with being your age or what? I don't know.
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Jack Armstrong
Little of both. Anybody who's ever seen a fight or been in a fight knows it's tiring and in a hurry.
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Joe Getty
And what was the deal? The announcer was, like, way over the top in terms of trying to make jokes. Then you got Roy Jones Jr. Who's a real boxer, kept saying, I don't like his legs. I don't like it. I don't like his legs. Because Tyson is shuffling around like an old man out there.
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Jack Armstrong
And then.
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Joe Getty
And then Rosie Perez as the other color person. Rosie Perez, who everybody wants for their big boxing matches for some reason. I don't know what that was.
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Jack Armstrong
Starlet of the early 90s.
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Joe Getty
Yeah. I don't know what the heck that was. 61 million people watched the fight on Friday night. That is a crazy number in the modern era where, you know, The Grammys gets 18, the Oscars gets 20. I mean, that's just an insane number. And, you know, if you were watching it, you know how the whole Netflix thing was just not working? It was buffering or you couldn't log on at all. And I got texts from everybody I knew, like, it's your. Is your working on your tv? No, not. And then I went on Twitter, and the whole country was going nuts over it. And the CEO of Twitter put out a statement Saturday night, said, well, it looks like the crowd was so big, it had our buffer system on the ropes. A cool boxing joke. Everybody was pissed off. It's not like you had to. It's not like pay per view where you paid for it, but you did pay for it with your time and, you know, scheduled your night around it, like lots of us did.
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Jack Armstrong
Well, if you have a TV channel that doesn't show the TV show, that's not a very good TV channel.
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Joe Getty
And I thought, geez. And they kept running promos for their NFL because they're going to have NFL games on Netflix live streaming on Christmas Day. Some big games, Chiefs game. And I thought, this is not a good advertisement for your big NFL game unless you get a much better server.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah. Yeah. Wow. So what'd you think of the main debacle? I mean, eventually, if I was going.
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Joe Getty
To talk about boxing, I'd talk about that fight before, and that's what me and all my friends who saw that, the fight right before the championship fight with the best female fighter in the world. That was, that was one of the best boxing matches I've ever seen in my life. But it was so bloody. And this is the first time I've watched boxing in 4K. That's gruesome. When I was a kid watching Muhammad Ali, if there was a cut, you couldn't like see into their head the way, I mean, it wasn't like looking at a like, you know, you do in real life. It was just, it was so that chick's forehead split open. My son couldn't even look at it on our TV 80 inch TV. Oh, that was both so much blood.
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Jack Armstrong
Old being beaten by the young women punching each other in the face. That's great.
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Joe Getty
That's a little super. Little Roman Empire is you think on a Friday night. Well, that's two women bloodied each other. Now let's watch the old man get beat up. Yeah, yeah. Little Roman Empire.
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Jack Armstrong
What? Daddy, no Lions. Sorry, son.
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
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Steve Post
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
Trying to take in, you know, media over the last several days, including today. The the how fired up people are about RFK Jr. Why is that such a. Why is that such a lightning rod point?
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Jack Armstrong
What is it about that I don't know. As opposed to other controversial figures or would be cabinet members.
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Joe Getty
Right. Gates. I get Attorney general and the fact that he might have had sex with a high school girl.
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Jack Armstrong
Maybe it's that there's an argument to be made in favor of RFK Jr. And it's pretty good. And in my opinion the article, the arguments against him are pretty good too.
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Joe Getty
Well, yeah, we talked about this last week. He is a abortion up until birth guy and always has been. So that's interesting. It's a. It's a. He's got a horrible personal life. His first wife killed herself because of all of his affairs. So you know.
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Jack Armstrong
But anyway, there's the whole Covid. He hinted it was targeting whites and blacks for the benefit of Jews and Chinese.
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Joe Getty
Right, right.
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Jack Armstrong
That's a little uncomfortable.
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Joe Getty
It's a little wacky.
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Jack Armstrong
Well, I don't know if you watch Morning Joe featuring Neville Scarborough Chamberlain who's just recently gone to beg for Hitler's approval and his, his wife, Mika no Goodnik. They flew down to Mar A Lago to meet with the big guy and are getting hammered for it for good reason.
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Joe Getty
So in case you don't know this, and you shouldn't, you probably don't watch him. It shouldn't be seen in the morning. And why freaking would you. But the hosts, who used to just be co hosts, then they had an affair and dumped their spouses and married each other, but now they're married. Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski. And they, they had Trump on all the time. When he first announced back in 2015 they were old friends. Then it went south. And then he outed their affair and put out some stuff about Joe Scarborough being responsible for the death of his intern and all kinds of stuff that really turned the morning show on MSNBC against Trump. And they've hated him so much and it's been the only story they talk about now for eight years is how awful Trump is and he's Hitler. But for whatever reason, they went down to Mar a Lago and talked to them over the, over the weekend. And here's a little bit of that conversation from this morning.
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Jack Armstrong
Joe and I went to Mar A Lago to meet personally with President Elect Trump. What we did agree on was to restart communication. And for those asking why we would go speak to the President elect during such fraught times, especially between us, I guess I would ask back, why wouldn't we? And it's going to come as no surprise to anybody who watches this show, has watched it over the past year or over the past decade, that we.
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Steve Post
Didn'T see eye to eye on a lot of issues.
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Jack Armstrong
And we told him so. Joe and I realize it's time to do something different. And that starts with not only talking about Donald Trump, but also talking with him. Yeah, okay. You've lost half your viewers. I didn't realize being Hitler is an issue. Among the issues we're prepared to discuss is you're Hitler. I love this.
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Joe Getty
I like her saying, we've decided to restart communications.
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Mike Lyons
Wow.
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Joe Getty
Could you be more self important than that? It's like China and the United States are starting to talk again. Mika Brzezinski is going to start talking to Trump again. Whatever. Good Lord. Get over yourselves. Geez.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, no kidding. So Scott Jennings, who's been terrific on the soon to be defunct cnn, among many commentators who said something to the effect of what he said specifically was, quote, Hitler getting a lot more meeting requests than I would have thought. That's a good One, the fabulous Bo Byron York, Annals of Shamelessness. They call Trump a fascist and much, much more. And then just 22 days after his Nazi like rally, they fly to Florida for an audience.
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Joe Getty
That's a good point. It was their network that ran the video, the black and white Ku Klux KLAN Video from 1939 about Trump's rally. And now they're going to meet with him to reestablish communications, which is the most pretentious thing I've ever heard out of any host ever.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, my God. It's like detente with the Soviet Union or something. Oh, Eli Lake, terrific columnist for the Free Press, wrote quite quote, why would Trump bother talking to these people other than to urge them to seek mental health counseling?
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Joe Getty
That's what I thought when she said, we've decided you might be asking why we decided to restart communion. The better question is why would he give you any time?
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Jack Armstrong
And why are you telling us this? We don't care.
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Joe Getty
Well, I assume it's got something to do with, with half of America voted for the guy. You might want to be able to, you know, get into the heads of half the freaking country.
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Jack Armstrong
Ah, yeah. I mean, that would be a thoroughly defensible point of view. And honestly, I think Joe, I don't know, Mika strikes me as a bit of adult, but Joe Scarborough is a very strategic guy and he's a very, very bright guy. He chose a role, he chose an approach. He's got a show. Yeah.
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Joe Getty
He's gotten incredibly wealthy and famous with this approach.
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, exactly. But to your point, he sees that and thinks, hmm, what's the strategic way forward? One more quick reaction, my main point, and then some more just for fun. But somebody said, once again, Democrats never actually thought Trump was Hitler or fascist dictator or anything like that. If you were propagandized, it's okay, you got played. But you know, I would like to point out, I would like to get like a one day pass from Elon Musk to tweet to all of these people who are on Twitter and TikTok and Instagram, whatever, explaining how they've now cut off their family for voting for Trump. I would like to point out to them, hey, that propaganda, you bought, that rhetoric, you accepted the people who convinced you it was true, never believed it. Don't tell your dad you're never going to talk to him again. They exploited you for their profit and you believed them.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, that's, you know, like I said last week, that's what I'm hoping comes out of this is we have the next generation of young people that will head into adulthood realizing, oh, they claim it's a. Not him as a Nazi and Hitler and all this stuff. And then as soon as the election's over, you just go back to business as usual. Oh, okay, it's a ruse. So now you all know it too. Like, it took me a while to figure it out. Because when you're young, you think this actually is the most important election ever. All the people I care about are telling me this is the most important election the country's gonna be over if it goes the wrong way. Yeah, no kidding. You're not going to talk to your dad anymore. Did you see Joe Biden sitting there smiling, shaking hands with Trump and Joe and Mika going down there to talk to him. What are you talking about?
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Jack Armstrong
How do you square those things? Friends, seriously, take a moment and think about it. This is not a trick question. You know, one. One loyal viewer says, gutted by Joe and Mika this morning. Gutted. Total capitulation. After years of railing about his lack of fitness. Not even an interview to show their journalistic integrity. Just a pure kiss the ring session. Disappointed. Done with them in their show. You're getting close, you're getting closer. The problem isn't that they're meeting with Trump. The problem is that the rest of it was pretend.
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Joe Getty
Right, right, right, right.
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Jack Armstrong
This isn't, you know, some sort of departure from their principles. These are their principles again, where does that leave you, having believed them and cut off your family, you know, if.
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Joe Getty
You wanted to attack Joe Scarborough and his wife? And again, I realize most of you don't ever. You've never seen one second of their show ever, I realize, and that's good. But God, you could play so many clips of them saying over the top things where it'd be legit to then ask them, how did you sit in the same room with this guy who you see as one of the most evil people on the planet, who only cares about destroying the country, making sure women have no rights. He's racist. How could you possibly sit down and have a conversation with him? Well, it's because they didn't believe in that stuff they said is how right.
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Joe Getty
I'm pretty tired of the looking back over the presidential election, but I thought this article in the New York Times how Kamala Harris burned through $1.5 billion in 15 weeks. Weeks was pretty entertaining. Maybe we ought to get into that.
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Jack Armstrong
A little bit how it helped her win. Oh, that's right. Oh no.
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Joe Getty
She burned through $1.5 billion in 15 weeks. According to New York Times, she was averaging a hundred million dollars a week on spending. That's crazy. Nobody's ever spent any like even close to them that amount of money even in a winning campaign. Bane.
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Jack Armstrong
Right, right. Which says something about money in politics. I mean, you can put like $500 a tube lipstick on a pig and it's still running around squealing.
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Joe Getty
Well, as the New York Times points out, she spent all that money and became the first Democratic presidential candidate to lose the popular vote in two decades.
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Jack Armstrong
It's as if she was a terrible candidate and everyone knew it all along. Wow. There's a viral video out now where it's Tim Walls at some. You remember him? That was funny, wasn't it? Anyway, so Tim Walls is during the campaign. He's given his speech about the one thing I can't forgive those people for is they've stolen the joy from America. We have the joy. They're dark and ugly and. And then it cuts to everybody doing the Trump dance in the NFL and college football on tv and just.
- [37:23]
Joe Getty
That's pretty funny. Washington Post with a story out today. Athletes are beginning to celebrate their wins and goals by dancing like President Trump. I've seen everyone do it said Las Vegas Raiders. Brock Bowers told USA Today. It's funny. It's sweeping all of sports.
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Jack Armstrong
Quoting an actual NFL guy, Hitler.
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Joe Getty
You wouldn't think people would be doing the Hitler dance after you, no matter.
- [37:44]
Jack Armstrong
How great a movie had. You know, if Hitler did the moonwalk, you wouldn't see people doing the, hey, you can dance just like Hitler. No, no, that would not be a thing, as the kids say. I just hope all the youngsters and crazy ass soft headed leftists become cynical. Well, a, call their dads and their moms and their siblings and their old friends and wake up from your fever dream. And B, realize, hey, they're trying to whip you up to manipulate you to get your votes and your viewership and your money. Wise up. Yeah, get more cynical. Get less dopey.
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Joe Getty
Well, I'm looking at the picture at the big UFC fight with Trump and Kid Rock and everybody in the crowd churn. That seemed like. And Jelly Roll. That seemed like some joy there.
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Jack Armstrong
Kid Rock really the gering of hip hop Jack.
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Joe Getty
Kid Rock really looking too old for his outfit. In some pictures, at some point, you age out of your. Your wacky clothes. Those Elon wearing a T shirt that said Occupy Mars, which I found hilarious to me.
- [38:54]
Jack Armstrong
That is hilarious to me. You go with your look until the grave.
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Joe Getty
Oh, why not?
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Jack Armstrong
Yeah, you're a major star. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I mean, can you imagine Kid Rock and naval high slacks and a cardigan? It's just, it's not right.
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Joe Getty
You see, he's still doing it. That's quite the crew for Trump to walk into that match, isn't it?
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Jack Armstrong
Imagine trying to explain to somebody 10 years ago. All right, here's the deal. And you go through that list of Elon Musk. Okay. All right. I'm tracking with you and Kid Rock. Yeah. What? And J RFK Jr. Whoa, wait, what now? Right.
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Joe Getty
That would be difficult. Oh, we got a lot more on the way. You can comment anytime on our text line. 415295, KFTC.
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Scientists are concerned that over the course of 180 million years, the Y chromosome has declined and that men could go extinct in 6 million years. Yeah, so. Yeah. So ladies, hang in there. You'll get your little president, you know.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, oh, the crowd Aghast.
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Joe Getty
What I mostly thought was interesting in that joke was men will go extinct in the crowd cheering that that particularly gals.
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Jack Armstrong
It seemed like that whole view of.
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Joe Getty
Men, we got to turn that around as a country somehow. My sons as they head out into the world.
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Jack Armstrong
That's a real divide among women. Do you believe to be pro woman is to be anti man? What an insane point of view.
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Joe Getty
I got more misogyny in a second. But first, if you listen, in the Bay area of San Francisco, we have been on 5:60am for quite a few years. Well, we're now on both 560 and 810, the old KGO call letters. And after the first of the year it'll be only 810. Correct. Anyway, that is correct. It's a much.
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Jack Armstrong
It's a better torch signal.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, it's a better signal. It's one of the best AM signals in the entire United States. 810 legendary. And we're happy to be on it. And so switch over to 810 at some point. Okay.
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Jack Armstrong
Hansen wrote this making 810 great again. Armstrong and Getty.
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Joe Getty
Okay, cool.
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Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
So I guess this isn't a misogyny. I just think it's dumb. So the you promised misogyny, the big boxing match. Tyson landed 18 punches in the entire fight.
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Jack Armstrong
How many rounds did it go?
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Joe Getty
Six, two round, two minute rounds.
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Jack Armstrong
Plenty.
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Joe Getty
18 punches total. I mean that is not much of a fight. He was so tired though. He got punched in the face really hard a couple of times. And to his credit as a guy who's about 60 didn't follow over. And I think Jake Paul realized if I knock out this old man in front of the entire crowd was clearly rooting for Mike Tyson. I mean, wasn't even a question.
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Jack Armstrong
It would have.
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Joe Getty
It would have been awful for him. He's a businessman. He's a guy who's figured out to become a gazillionaire as a really annoying. Him and his brother. I couldn't hate them more. I hate the whole influencer, Instagram sensation, YouTube thing in general. And they are the key to it. I mean they're just ahead of it. They like the, the, the, the. The prom king and queen of it of just do outrageous stupid things to get attention and become rich. I hate that whole thing. Speaking of which, in the boxing match, as they always do in boxing matches, they have really hot chicks in skimpy outfits who stand there and smile in their fake hooters. And this one tall blonde and Bring.
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Jack Armstrong
The number of the round around the ring, girls. Yes.
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Joe Getty
Yeah, these girls got most attention. This one particular girl got most attention just for standing behind the people as everybody was talking. And she an instant sensation. I'm not even going to say her name because I don't want to promote her, but I mean, you couldn't look at the screen and not notice her. She was quite noticeable. But she now has like 5 million Instagram followers and 16 million TikTok videos and whatever. Like, so weird. Who are you dudes who start following someone on Instagram because it's a slightly different and I mean slightly different, different hot blonde chick. What is that?
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Jack Armstrong
Well, unlike my misogynist friend, I'm not outraged or offended by any of this. But I will tell you this, dear Cash in now, hire an agent today by noon, sign any contract put in front of you, no matter the terms, and make your money now.
- [46:35]
Joe Getty
Or reply to all those rich dudes who are reaching out to you and see if one of them is nice enough to want to marry.
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Jack Armstrong
Right? Yeah. Yeah. Sign that really cute girl at the masters a couple of years ago, ccing the super cute girl at the Tennessee football game who was on camera for 10 seconds. Remember the hot and on and on.
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Joe Getty
The hot guard at one of the Trump trials. The cops she became.
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, the cute cop.
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Joe Getty
She became something for a while. Yeah, you better cash in like next day. I just, I don't blame her. That's what she's attractive and she's trying to figure out how to make a living off the fact she, she was blessed being attractive. You dudes though, who follow her on Instagram, what is your thing? Can I buy your time?
- [47:17]
Jack Armstrong
Good lord.
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Joe Getty
You have nothing else to do with your life than follow yet another hot chick. And look at her in her clothes.
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Jack Armstrong
What the hell are out of them? She might get an only fans account jack or seller underwear God knows what in this sick, sick world. But I think that the dudes, they're taking it a lot less seriously. This look. She's a really cute girl. She's a skinny blonde girl with big boobs, imagine. And they'll check out her Instagram and then next week on to somebody else.
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Joe Getty
Wow. I wonder what the process is to become that person in the boxing match. I wonder if that was pretty cutthroat because turned out to be fairly lucrative for her.
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Jack Armstrong
A lot more to come next hour. If you don't get next hour, grab it via podcast. Subscribe to Armstrong and Getty on Demand.
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