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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack.
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Michael
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Jack Armstrong
Some business news the maker of Nutter Butters, Chips Ahoy and Oreos is suing.
Michael
Aldi for allegedly using packaging that blatantly copies their products. Yeah, Aldi apologized, and, as a peace.
Jack Armstrong
Offering, sent Nabisco a bunch of delicious prongles. That's interesting.
Michael
Hey, you don't want to be eating counterfeit Nutter Butters.
Jack Armstrong
What? That's okay. I don't want to get off on this, but I've always wondered about, like. Like, you can get Raisin Bran, you can get Post Raisin Bran or cug Raisin Bran. The boxes look almost exactly the same. The product is the same.
Michael
Yeah, I. I have a feeling the courts ruled that. No, that's just a simple statement of the two ingredients, and you can't copyright that. You could have, like, Bran Raisin Crunch. That would probably be a copyrightable name. That's my guess.
Jack Armstrong
You know what I'm enjoying right now is the Wheatie, the Old Timey Weedy. That's a good. That's a good. That's a good cereal right there.
Michael
Like your boyhood hero, Bruce Jenner. Not sure if you've heard about him. Yes. Speaking of that sort of madness, we give you a news report featuring radical leftist Marxist California politician Scott Weiner.
Jack Armstrong
State Senator Scott Weiner is certain his bill will pass allowing San Francisco police.
Joe Getty
Officers to cite these illegal vendors.
Jack Armstrong
This is for folks who are selling.
Unknown
Goods that have been placed on a. Placed on a list of commonly stolen.
Jack Armstrong
Goods who don't have a permit and don't have proof of purchase.
Unknown
Then the police will be able to.
Jack Armstrong
Cite them, and on the third offense, they can get a misdemeanor. So I want to make sure you understand what happened there. So it's a regular thing, especially in California, to go into a CVS or whatever store you want to go into and just take your arm on the shelf and sweep stuff into a grocery bag and walk out the door, and nobody arrests you. And then you set up up card tables out on the street and sell.
Michael
The stuff, like, right in front of the store sometimes.
Jack Armstrong
And this wiener dude, Scott Wiener, he's gonna crack down on these people. We're gonna get tough on them starting now. A policeman can excite them, and on the third citation, they will get a misdemeanor.
Michael
That is so hilarious.
Jack Armstrong
That is so hilarious.
Michael
It would be impossible for me running one of these rings to tell my various junkie friends, all right, you've been busted for selling twice. You go back to boosting from stores. Ew. Hey, boosting. Jimmy, you man the table.
Jack Armstrong
Now if you wonder why California is completely lawless and you've seen those videos, videos flying around social media where they just rob stores blind. And why so many CVSS and Walgreens have had to close in LA and.
Michael
San Francisco and Oakland and those that are open. Everything costing more than 75 cents is locked up behind glass and you have to bother somebody to get it out for you.
Jack Armstrong
You want to get some freaking deodorant, you have to find some unhappy employee to come unlock it for you.
Michael
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Jack Armstrong
Is because this counts as getting tough on crime. And the third time we catch you selling this stuff, we're gonna give you a misdemeanor. And he said that with that like tough guy voice. That's hilarious.
Michael
Scott Wiener is not only a Marxist, he is a encourager of reaching across the generations for man boy love and that sort of thing. He's a sexual radical. He is, he is. He's a damn communist and has done enormous damage. And he is the poster child for what got the Democratic Party's high knee kicked in the last election, certainly on a national level. So the Democratic Party is trying to figure out what to do with their left flank, the lunatic like Scott Weiner, and arrive at a message that somebody might be willing to vote for. And what they've come up with is the Abundance Agenda, which is based on a book by Ezra Klein and who's the co author? Derek Thompson. Surprise hit Jack. Hundreds of thousands of copies sold. The idea is gotta cut through all the red tape and the regulations. They're well meaning. But it's metastasized into choking the economy and making people's lives worse. We've gotta deregulate and free up the economy, blah blah blah. So they've to a large extent become moderate Republicans.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, well to a certain extent. It's the sort of thing Bill Maher has been talking about for a long time. I think that's why he had Ezra Klein on right away to talk about this book. Is the idea that lefties come up with and these are their words, not necessarily my thoughts on all these topics, but that they. Democrats come up with good ideas, but their ideas never reach the end point. And that's why people have turned against the Democratic Party. Like bullet train, good idea. But all of the waste and mess and everything like that. They didn't actually get a bullet train. Spending money on dealing with homelessness, a good idea, but it gets all wrapped up in waste and everything like that. And you don't solve the homeless problem, you know, throw all the money at housing and you build, you spend a hundred million dollars to build five apartments, all that sort of stuff.
Michael
Right.
Jack Armstrong
Their goal is okay, they just never get to the end result and they got to cut out all the crap in between. That stops them from accomplishing what they want to accomplish.
Michael
So now as I'm trying to get a grasp of this, they're trying to advocate for effective policies as opposed to ineffective ones. Now you have my attention.
Jack Armstrong
But still the same policies that they say people on their side want. So that's, that's the deal, right?
Unknown
Right.
Michael
So with the idea that efficient leftism.
Jack Armstrong
They'Re the thinking is of some people in the Democratic Party is that our ideas are not unpopular. We just don't implement them in a way that ever yields in results. Which is certainly true. The second part is definitely true, right?
Michael
Oh yeah, yeah. I mean, I would argue the first part, obviously, but the second part is absolutely, unquestionably true. Particularly as you look at Cal Unicornia and interestingly enough, Gavin Newsom was on or I'm sorry, he had Ezra Klein on his podcast for a 90 minute discussion about the book. And Gavi, who is trying desperately to thread the needle between running away from his record as the ruiner of California, together with his political great granddad Jerry Brown, trying to pretend he's not that, but indeed is the brave knight in shining armor who will confront the ills that have just been visited upon him. So he was defensive about the way the book actually depicts California's Exhibit A for Democratic dysfunction.
Jack Armstrong
Yes, as it should be.
Michael
But I'm quoting now from the Wall Street Journal. Newsom nonetheless proclaimed the book essential reading for Democrats. And he said he's been handing out copies to the leaders of the state legislature cuz they gotta get effective and cut those regulations that I've been pushing my entire career. That's interesting. Here are some more quotes. Richie Torres, Democrat, New York the system is broken. The government is too inefficient, ineffective to meet the challenges of the 21st century. But the answer is not doge. It's abundance in all caps. Cut red tape, unleash the state as a stimulant to growth and innovation, not private enterprise with the state.
Jack Armstrong
I am not unhappy to have them come to this conclusion. And then we can argue about policies, but at least they, they won't be all bogged down in, in, in worthlessness.
Michael
Right? If you say you're going to spend a billion dollars to accomplish something, please accomplish it at Least that's not a lot to ask. Uh, they, they're big on the YIMBY push. Yes. In my backyard, you know, strict housing rules and zoning and, and clustering high rises near train stations and all that. We, we want to stick with those policies. As Jack was saying, good policies, but we've got to eliminate the NIMBY types. We're looking at you Malibu, by the way, and Scarsdale and Fairfax, Virginia and all where the. There is blue is sapphire. And yet they were. Well, I'm in favor of multifamily housing, just not here.
Jack Armstrong
The. All the people that go to all the super expensive a plate fundraisers and give the money, they don't want it in their backyard, I guarantee you.
Michael
Right. The protected class who advocate for these policies but are never affected by.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, there's a teacher at your super expensive private school there. Super rich lefty. Have to speak nine different languages to accommodate all the immigration. Oh, they don't. That's interesting because they have to in the public schools.
Michael
Josh Harder, who is a non lunatic Democrat from swing district in California, says the book has given voice to a feeling people have had for a while that it's just too hard to build things. Things. That's absolutely true. It is. You know, if this is a notable tack to the center, more or less certainly to effectiveness. Yeah, that's a good thing.
Unknown
Sure, absolutely.
Michael
As opposed to aoc, you know, the Chad Gueva with nice nicely formed bosoms leading the Democratic Party into a socialist future. This. If this is the alternative. Bring it on, fellas. Good luck.
Jack Armstrong
I'm pretty sure I heard Ezra or somebody who was a proponent of this saying, like a lot of our green stuff has not panned out the way we said it would. You know, that sort of thing. That's good. That's.
Michael
Hey, that is good. That's absolutely good. It was phony from the beginning, but at least you're admitting it. I was amused by a couple of things. First of all, there is a backlash on the left, Jack, who have attacked the book in many essays, podcasts and book reviews. Critics argue the authors are blind to or stooges of the corporate power that is the true culprit for the problems. The book lays out. Abundance. Write a couple of morons for the Rolling Stone, encourages Democrats to focus on the wrong solutions and elevates deregulatory narratives already being weaponized by the right. Okay, we need more regulations and then this kind of.
Jack Armstrong
And you're right, Ezra, obviously a tool of the right.
Michael
Yeah, yeah. Fascist. Oh, here's the other problem.
Jack Armstrong
Oh my God. My 13 year old asked me, what's a fascist? The other day.
Michael
Anybody you don't like, son?
Jack Armstrong
Mostly because he's fighting fascists in his new video game, the Indiana Jones video game. You fight fascists? He's fighting Mussolini's fascists.
Michael
Well now wait, do they actually, did they identify them as like Italian fascists or they're just kind of black uniform. Oh really?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. Well, okay, I brought up Mussolini. He said, yeah, it's Mussolini. They mentioned that in the game. I said, okay, cool. He said, you see, I'm learning something.
Michael
We ought to pass and I will overregulate the video game industry when I am elected Emperor. But you'll be fighting Chinese communists.
Jack Armstrong
No kidding.
Michael
Not freaking Nazis.
Jack Armstrong
No kidding.
Michael
Anyway, I found this very amusing. Let me squeeze this in. They mentioned in the Journal in her Short Lived 2024 campaign, Kamala Harris's promise to build 3 million new homes in America was the best testing of her several proposals. I've got a really funny note on that later too. But according to both her campaign and Trump's, a Yimbys for Harris Zoom fundraiser. They're talking about how popular this was. A Yimbys for Harris Zoom fundraiser drew 30,000 participants and raised more than $130,000. Point of order, Mr. Chairman. That's like $4 and 50 cents per attendee.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Michael
I mean if that's a success story, what does a failure look like?
Jack Armstrong
I got a Kamala thing, a brief Kamala thing because I am sick of ever talking about her and hoping she'll go away. Though she's not. She's going to be governor of California some more. I'll get to that at some point. We also have a good nut picking thing. It's nut picking but it's entertaining. Among other things. We can get to stay here.
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Joe Getty
Happy pride month in my Target that used to have the pride section. It's now all usa.
Jack Armstrong
Yay.
Joe Getty
It's an American summer. Except for tourism because tourism's down because no one wants to come here. USA and honestly, my dad serves the military and I'd love to be really proud of this nation, but it's hard to be proud of it under Donald Trump. But hey, you know, while you're here, pick up a USA bikini. You know, why not? Yeah. Target's really taking this anti DEI thing to another level.
Jack Armstrong
That's a woman who was very unhappy that her target had a lot of red, white, blue stuff for 4th of July by the front door instead of all the pride and trans stuff that they've had in previous years and gotten some blowback for.
Michael
You know, she was less obnoxious than I expected. I would, I think the most notable thing she said in the. The only thing I want to respond to is the idea that the country is the president. Yeah, that's absurd. The country is the constitution and its people and your town, your county, your state, your region. I mean, the federal government certainly has a role in the country, but the government isn't the country and the president certainly isn't the country. Sweetheart, your dad is the country. Your next door neighbor is the country. These are odd times.
Jack Armstrong
Rap wars are going on. I don't know if you're aware of the rap.
Michael
Oh, no, no. So much conflict around the globe and.
Jack Armstrong
I don't mean rip rap ripity roo. I said a rip rap ripity roo. I don't mean singing. I mean W R A P, as in the kind of rap you eat in fast food joints. Apparently McDonald's is bringing back. They're very popular, though I'd never heard of it. Snack wrap. That was huge. And so their competitors are combating that. Popeyes has launched a new chicken wrap that actually in the picture, looks pretty freaking good. But anyway, so if you're into that sort of thing, lots of restaurants are going to have them. I don't know why. Why things catch on and some things don't.
Michael
I'm a big fan of the wrap.
Jack Armstrong
For the record, this headline from the Oregonian. How hookup apps help fuel the Meth crisis among Gay men. What's your guess on that?
Michael
There's a lot there.
Jack Armstrong
How hookup apps fuel the Meth crisis among gay men.
Michael
I'm sure they have little code words that they use for. This is actually connecting for drugs, not to fornication and.
Jack Armstrong
Or both.
Michael
I mean, because tweakers famously want to fornicate all day and all night.
Jack Armstrong
Right. I remember one guy I knew who was a meth guy, and he said, it's like orgasm times 1000 or something like that. Which I thought, I don't know if I can handle that.
Michael
Yeah, I know I can't. And I remember talking to. To DEA guys who said, I tell you what, you. You bust a house that's producing meth or people are using meth, you're gonna find three things. Porn and sex toys, clutter and more porn and sex toys. You just turns you into just a flaming horn dog, I guess, if, you know, the average guy needs any help.
Jack Armstrong
American men are having a friend crisis. We'll get to that story later in the show. I look forward to it. But I came across this yesterday, and I found it was kind of hilarious. It was about Kamala Harris and the decisions she needs to make. This is Mark Halpern's newsletter, and he said, all sources suggest she remains undecided about running for governor, running for president, or neither. To which I say I think she'll. If she wants to run for governor, she'll be governor. I think Kamala Harris can be governor of California. And who wouldn't want to be governor of the biggest state in the union? If you're a politician, run for president. That is hilarious.
Michael
Oh, I know.
Jack Armstrong
That is hilarious. Are you kidding?
Michael
That would be so gratifying if she did run. Come on. I'm gonna donate Zero.
Jack Armstrong
Chance of getting your own nomination, your own party? Zero.
Michael
And as governor of California, you got a pipeline of Chardonnay coming your way. Come on.
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Night waxing hilarious on the Democratic Party's efforts to get back to the American mainstream. Then we'll move on from politics. How many know what SAM stands for?
Jack Armstrong
It's a new phrase.
Michael
It stands for speaking with American men. Sam, this is the new movement by the Democratic Party. They lost the men vote a lot last time and they have these seminars. Would you like to hear what was said? These are ways that they want to seminars that they had to try to win back the typical American mail. Like how to keep your liberal base while putting guns on your Christmas card. That was one.
Jack Armstrong
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Michael
Another dude conversation starters Bud Light etiquette.
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Michael
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Michael
BR Bruce Lee vs Bigfoot. Mythical fight scenarios to man up. Your Joe Rogan appearance.
Jack Armstrong
That's pretty funny.
Michael
That is crazy.
Jack Armstrong
Speaking of the whole manly thing, why is Tim Walls on my television like every day somewhere? What a nothing burger he is. Why is he still floating around in various things? Anyway, I don't want to talk about.
Michael
Famous for being famous at this point.
Jack Armstrong
Coming up, I'm a knucklehead at times. Coming up, return policies are such a big a bigger part of retail than I realized and the way we use and sometimes abuse them. And two, just a quick question. I'll have the answer next segment. What percentage of us want to live to 100? It's surprisingly low.
Michael
So I promised we'd move on from politics and we certainly will after this mention because it's Kamala Harris Related. We were just talking about Kamala, and I'd like not to bring her up again later. Nellie Bowles, writing in the Free Press mortem on Kamala Harris's campaign, cited a perception gap as one of the reasons she lost, saying voters believed she held positions that she didn't. And this is a quote from the postmortem. Over 80% of swing voters who chose Trump believed Harris held positions she did not campaign on in 2024. Including supporting what now?
Jack Armstrong
I'm already troubled by that phrase, but go on.
Michael
Including supporting taxpayer funding for transgender surgeries for undocumented immigrants. 83% believe that.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, she. She didn't run on it, but she said it and then years ago and never denounced it during a campaign.
Michael
An 82% misperceived that she was backing mandatory electric vehicles by 2035. 77% believed erroneously that she believed in decriminalizing border crossings and defunding the police. That's 72%. All things she said getting back to Nellie Bowles. But Harris had, in fact, supported all of these positions. Like she is on the record supporting every one of them here and here. And all of those are links. Of course they're saying that. So it's not really a perception problem so much as a reception problem. Like, these ideas are not popular, even though I support them.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, it's true. She didn't run on them. I've heard, though, the Harris people say that before. We didn't run on them. Well, no, but you said them before and you never explained that you don't believe them anymore. So, yes, you were painted with your.
Michael
Own words, advocated for them forcefully for years. All right, now we'll move on from politics. Handful of things that are good news, some of them somewhat politically related, but it's been a little gloomy and doomy so far, and I didn't want to go all negative. Story in who was right. This might be the Free Press to come to think of it. Unbelievable story. It begins with a couple who faced a parent's nightmare. Their son KJ was born, and when he was just days old, doctors diagnosed KJ with an incredibly rare genetic disorder that had to do with breaking down proteins and they buildup in the body in a toxic level. Babies like KJ lack the necessary enzyme to convert ammonia to urea that's then excreted in the urine. And it doesn't breathe. It doesn't. I'm sorry, build up in your bloodstream. Very, very, very rare. But because of leaps forward in the crispr Gene editing world KJ became the first patient to ever receive a CRISPR treatment customized specifically for him, done by a team of doctors and researchers at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, Perelman School of Medicine, University of Pennsylvania and UC Berkeley, among several other institutions. After 10 months and three courses of the treatment, KJ is doing well and able to handle more protein in his diet. Heading in a really good direction.
Jack Armstrong
That's awesome and miraculous. But the whole CRISPR thing is a lot like AI. There are all kinds of examples of wonderful positive, you can't argue with them things it can do. But then people are going to use CRISPR to have taller blue eyed only boy or only girl or whatever is popular at the time. You know, all kinds of different things that are going to ruin mankind.
Michael
Hollywood types are going to say can you get me a kid that decides he's a boy in about sixth grade? Can we have a gender bending madness gene? No, it is. It's amazing. But yeah, I didn't. I would. I'm trying to be positive folks, just for the record. Positive. Scientific breakthrough saving the life of a baby and Jack took it negative. Just if you're keeping score at home.
Jack Armstrong
That's true, I did.
Michael
Moving along headline from the National Review. Progressive activists broke corporate America Shareholders putting it back together. There's now a cottage industry which is kind of funny of guys like this. David Bonson who's a financial advisor who worked to real companies back from the brinks of woke madness and is now advising them on how to be normal again. Again he's leaned into the authority that shareholders have to help keep major companies focused on what they're supposed to be focused on financial returns as opposed to social justice issues that are not core to their business. The lead of this article is at the height of the COVID pandemic and America's so called racial reckoning. Marxism activist groups infiltrated major corporations and pressured executives to promote niche left wing social causes. But in the years since, consumers and shareholders sick of having progressive dogma forced on them have begun to exert pressure pressure of their own. And it is working. And he is reeling a bunch of companies back from the brink who are now saying and doing normal things again. Bowier Research macroeconomic consulting firm that's increasingly taken on the role of helping shareholders push this sort of thing. In short, said quote the thing we're countering was a crazy social mania which came up very quickly and formed a bubble and corporations fell all over themselves to embrace unpopular policies promoted by activ. After a few years of corporate backlash. Think Bud Light, Disney, Target, coupled with Supreme Court rulings on affirmative action.
Jack Armstrong
Every store, Every store. I was in there for a while. I remember there was a period of time you couldn't go in a store that didn't have, you know, Black Lives Matter or We Stand with this or that somewhere. It was a craze that, that writing is exactly right here.
Michael
He says, quote, it's become obvious to companies that they probably should not have made these commitments and political gestures in this pandering in the first place. So they are ready to get back to sanity because saw what they had done was not in their interest or their shareholders interests. Um, and one thing he's had a big victory at. PepsiCo, the food giant filed a shareholder resolution calling on the company to account for its discriminatory ad buying under the Global alliance for Responsible Media. I don't know if you've heard of them. Garm, left wing group formed in 2019 to promote digital safety and combat disinformation, misinformation and hate speech. And what these Garm people did was label anybody to the right of the New York Times as hate speech outlets and misinformation disinformation outlets. So PepsiCo would not advertise on the Armstrong and Getty show. They wouldn't advertise on Fox News or News Nation or the Washington Free Beacon or anything like that. And they finally convinced PepsiCo this isn't. Has nothing to do with misinformation disinformation. It's trying to unplatform anybody to the right of Jimmy Carter.
Jack Armstrong
Right. And all kinds of people. You might not like their politics like syrupy sugar water that they shouldn't drink.
Michael
Right? So again, this is a little political, but this is positive. The Justice Department has expanded its efforts against discrimination by invoking the False Claims act it announced in May. The Civil Rights Fraud Initiative, which will use the False Claims act, which encourages whistleblowers to come forward with evidence of illegal activity. Specifically, universities, corporations and nonprofits have established diversity, equity and inclusion policies that violate the plain language of civil rights laws. All racism is racism. All discrimination is discrimination. So if you see discrimination against Asian people or white people or whomever, you can let the Justice Department know. No, these entities, the corporations, the universities and nonprofits, have received billions of dollars in federal funding by falsely certifying that they are in compliance with federal law. They are not. They are violating the plain language of civil rights laws and they've got a hotline established and, and gonna bring them to heel. That Way too progress is being made, my friends.
Jack Armstrong
That thing on the companies, you know, losing their, their, their woke messaging and that's a good example of the free market reflecting what almost everybody feels. That, that, that was a good result right there.
Michael
Yeah. And it's, it's interesting to have observed what we're just talking about. And I wonder if now a lot of these companies will be inoculated from doing it again. Kind of a knee jerk. Oh, this is hot. People are mad. People are threatening. We gotta do this, we gotta do this. And a little more. All right, steady. She goes, goes. We make food and soft drinks. Let's make food and soft drinks and just everybody keep going.
Jack Armstrong
I would hope that the next time there's some big thing, you know, Nike says we sell shoes. We're not getting involved with this. You want to hear about our new running shoe? It's really springy. But we're not going to get involved in the political issue.
Michael
Or when some 29 year old, you know, marketing exec says, hey, I tell you what, show that you're down with the people. People will sell more workout clothes and running shoes if you like, come out in favor of Black Lives Matter. Nike, for instance, although Nike's unforgivably woke. But some of the other companies we've talked about might say, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's an upside, but there's a downside. Why don't you call Bud Light and ask him about that downside? You get out of this baby. You know, Hue to their core purpose.
Jack Armstrong
Chris Rock talking about Lululemon. We don't discriminate. What the hell are you talking about? And yes, you do discriminate against the porn. 4.
Michael
You're here.
Jack Armstrong
How many people want to live to be 100? Not near as many as you would think. I need to think about that for a second myself. Among other things. Coming up. Stay here.
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Like Clorox and feels like yay.
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Michael
Of the play Good Night and Good.
Jack Armstrong
Luck which will be the first time.
Michael
A Broadway show will be televised live. And to simulate the experience of seeing.
Jack Armstrong
It live, an old person will come to your home and forget to turn off the ringer on their phone. I'm here for the show. I brought tiny candies. I'm constantly amazed how many people can't you know to forget and leave your ringer on is one thing. I don't think I've ever done it one time in my life where my phone has gone off in a situation where you wouldn't want your phone to go off. But I'm amazed by when people's phone does go off. I don't think that's, you know, immediately like a capital offense or anything like that. But not knowing how to turn it off drives me crazy. The people who just like look at their phone confused and pressing a million buttons, you don't know how to turn it off. Off.
Michael
You don't know what.
Jack Armstrong
There's one button, just hit it once and it's off.
Michael
Ah, drives me crazy. Please silence your devices.
Jack Armstrong
Right. Do you want to live to be a hundred years old? Only about a quarter of us do, which is kind of surprising to me. And the number goes down as you get older. If you ask people when they're older.
Michael
How interesting.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I wonder what that's all about. It's not that unlikely that will happen. If you're in good health at 65 and you financially can pull it off, I mean, you're decent financial shape for a woman, it's a 13% chance you'll make it to 100. For a man it's an 8% chance. And for a couple, so it's a 20% chance, one in five that one of you will make it to 100. Is it? Doesn't it seem surprising to you that only a quarter of people want to live to be 100, hundred? I'm not exactly sure what my answer is.
Michael
I think I would know to see the same question asked of 95 or 90 or 85. I think you, you'd find a sweet spot somewhere around 90. That's my guess.
Jack Armstrong
That's interesting. Yeah, I think I'm a Definite yes on 90 and I'd probably go with no. 11 hundreds, which is just an assumption that I wouldn't be the. That enjoying life that much.
Michael
Right. You're basing it on the averages.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. And when you don't really have any idea.
Michael
No, no indeed.
Jack Armstrong
Because you know, your health could fail you at a younger age. It doesn't have to be 100, but, but at that, you know, like, like I've repeated many times, my doctor saying to me, one time we were having a discussion about this and that, medicines, everything. He said, sometimes I wonder what the goal is here. What is the goal? Like just to extend your life. Life. Even though in many cases it's not, you know, that great.
Michael
What, what, what are we, what are.
Jack Armstrong
We trying to pull off?
Michael
Interesting. I've got a great doctor, a general practitioner or primary care doctor, whatever you call him these days. I live in fear that he's going to leave or go do something else. But he once said to me, joe, our goal is to get you to 99 years of age healthy with using as little medication as possible. Well, yeah, which in my case is more than a little, but yeah, of.
Jack Armstrong
Course that is the goal. But if, if for in reality most people are not that healthy toward the end. What, what extending that. What is, what is that all about?
Michael
Oh, it's, it's about defying what's natural and unavoidable, I think.
Jack Armstrong
Or being pushed by a train that makes a profit. I mean, there's got to be some of that in there, right?
Michael
Well, yeah, yeah. I mean, our health system and how doctors in hospitals and, and you know, Big pharma, whomever, how they're compensated is just horrific, unholy, dishonest, twisted, complex, incomprehensible.
Jack Armstrong
I didn't mean to get off on that. I want to mention this. So kids had to start paying their student loans back. I shouldn't say kids. There's plenty of 40 year olds out there who had student loans and they got delayed for what, four or five years, a really long time. And they were lied to by the President of the United States who said, said I'm going to wipe them out and you're not going to have to.
Michael
Pay him because there was a bad flu from China for a little while.
Jack Armstrong
Unfortunately, in my mind, that did happen for a whole bunch of people, like to the tune of gazillions of dollars. We redistributed wealth to the most privileged among us, people with college degrees. Anywho, not to get off on that, one out of four student loan borrowers are behind on their payments since they started back up here not too long ago. One out of four.
Michael
Wow. Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Hadn't planned ahead or thought they would. You know, you can't blame a young person for thinking, cool, I'm never going to have to pay this again because that guy ran for president on this issue and told me that I was not going to have to pay for him.
Michael
Right. Yeah. And I had to tell my kids in their 20s and 30s, look, this is not going to happen. It's. It's false. It's just politicking. The courts are going to overturn it. Don't make plans.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, if you didn't have a wise parent, if you had a parent, you know, leans left who thinks, yes, the government not only should, but is going to pay off those student loans because you got ripped off somehow. As opposed to those people over there who have a car payment and didn't go to college. They have never understood the argument on this, but yeah, one out of four and rising.
Michael
Speaking of COVID I got a question for you. It's an ethical question. We both don't believe in harassing public figures like senators or whatever. When they're out to eat, you harass them while they're at work, if they're with their family or whatever, that leave them alone. Just be decent. On the other hand, there's part of me, and this is what you need to rule on, Jack, that wants every time Anthony Fauci is out in public for the rest of his life, he hears gain of function. Gain a function everywhere he goes. Every single time.
Jack Armstrong
I got to admit, there are murdered.
Michael
Millions and then denied it.
Jack Armstrong
Worse than that, what's her name that ran the schools that kept them closed for so many years?
Michael
Randy Weingarten.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know if I could keep my mouth shut if I see her and her husband over there in the corner of the restaurant. You don't actually care about children. You destroyed their lives for profit. How do you sleep at night, you horrible, horrible human. I don't think I can keep myself from saying that.
Michael
That's a good rough draft. Perfect.
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Armstrong & Getty On Demand: "When I'm Elected Emperor" – Summary
Release Date: June 3, 2025
In this engaging episode of the Armstrong & Getty On Demand podcast, hosts Jack Armstrong and Michael delve into a range of current events, political analyses, and societal observations. Skipping the advertisements and introductory segments, the conversation primarily focuses on the intersection of business practices, political strategies, and their implications on society.
Timestamp: [03:07]
The episode kicks off with a discussion about a high-profile lawsuit where Nabisco is suing Aldi for allegedly copying their product packaging. Jack Armstrong highlights the similarity by comparing it to instances like Raisin Bran versus Post Raisin Bran, pondering the thin line between branding and imitation.
Jack Armstrong:
"Some people say that Odoo business management software is like fertilizer, the way it promotes growth and all. But other people say Odoo is like a magic beanstalk because it grows with your company and is also magically affordable."
(Note: This quote appears to be misattributed in the transcript but underscores Armstrong's analogy-heavy commentary.)
Timestamp: [04:00 – 06:08]
The hosts shift focus to California politics, discussing State Senator Scott Weiner's new bill aimed at reducing illegal vending. They critique the leniency previously seen in enforcement, where individuals could steal from stores or sell without permits without significant repercussions.
Jack Armstrong:
"This is for folks who are selling goods that have been placed on a list of commonly stolen items and don't have a permit or proof of purchase. On the third offense, they can get a misdemeanor."
[05:04]
Michael:
"That is so hilarious."
[05:23]
The conversation highlights the perceived overreach of regulatory measures and their effectiveness in curbing petty crimes.
Timestamp: [06:08 – 09:06]
Armstrong and Michael delve into the Democratic Party's strategic shift towards what they term the "Abundance Agenda," a concept derived from a book by Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson. They critique the party's historical struggle to implement well-meaning policies effectively, often bogged down by bureaucratic red tape.
Michael:
"The Democratic Party is trying to figure out what to do with their left flank... they've coalesced around the Abundance Agenda, which is based on Ezra Klein’s book."
[07:29]
Jack Armstrong:
"Democrats come up with good ideas, but their ideas never reach the end point. Like bullet train, good idea. But all the waste and mess... didn't actually get a bullet train."
[08:18]
The hosts argue that while the Democratic ideologies are sound, their execution is consistently flawed, leading to voter disillusionment.
Timestamp: [32:56 – 38:35]
Shifting to corporate America, Armstrong and Michael discuss how progressive activists had previously influenced companies to adopt social justice agendas. However, there's now a notable shareholder backlash, pushing companies to retract these policies in favor of focusing solely on financial performance.
Jack Armstrong:
"It’s become obvious to companies that they probably should not have made these commitments and political gestures in this pandering in the first place."
[37:11]
Michael:
"Corporations are ready to get back to sanity because they saw what they had done was not in their interest or their shareholders' interests."
[37:25]
This segment underscores a significant shift in corporate strategies, reflecting broader societal pushback against enforced progressive agendas.
Timestamp: [27:25 – 30:51]
The conversation turns to Kamala Harris's campaign, analyzing a Wall Street Journal report that suggests a perception gap contributed to her electoral challenges. A staggering 80% of swing voters believed Harris held positions she never explicitly campaigned on, including support for contentious issues like transgender surgeries for undocumented immigrants and mandatory electric vehicles by 2035.
Nellie Bowles (Free Press Mortem on Kamala Harris's Campaign):
"Over 80% of swing voters who chose Trump believed Harris held positions she did not campaign on in 2024."
[29:42]
Michael:
"Harris had, in fact, supported all of these positions... It's not really a perception problem so much as a reception problem."
[30:01]
The hosts criticize Harris for advocating these positions without adequately addressing or denouncing them during her campaign, leading to voter misconceptions.
Timestamp: [31:07 – 32:56]
Amidst the heavy political discourse, Armstrong and Michael share a heartwarming story about a medical breakthrough using CRISPR gene-editing technology. A baby named KJ, diagnosed with a rare genetic disorder affecting protein breakdown, became the first patient to receive a customized CRISPR treatment. After multiple courses, KJ's condition has significantly improved, showcasing the immense potential of genetic engineering in saving lives.
Jack Armstrong:
"...KJ became the first patient to ever receive a CRISPR treatment customized specifically for him... After 10 months and three courses of the treatment, KJ is doing well."
[31:07]
However, Armstrong introduces a cautionary note, drawing parallels between CRISPR’s life-saving capabilities and the potential misuse for unethical genetic modifications.
Timestamp: [36:00 – 37:48]
The hosts highlight a positive move by the Justice Department, which has launched the Civil Rights Fraud Initiative. This program leverages the False Claims Act to address violations in diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) policies across universities, corporations, and nonprofits. The initiative aims to ensure that federal funds are not misused under the guise of DEI commitments.
Michael:
"All racism is racism. All discrimination is discrimination... they're violating the plain language of civil rights laws and they've got a hotline established and gonna bring them to heel."
[36:00]
Jack Armstrong:
"The free market is reflecting what almost everybody feels. That was a good result right there."
[37:11]
This segment emphasizes governmental efforts to curb misuse of DEI initiatives, aligning corporate practices with legal standards.
Timestamp: [38:35 – 45:58]
Moving away from politics and business, Armstrong and Michael engage in lighter yet thought-provoking discussions about societal trends and personal beliefs. Topics include:
Longevity and Life Expectancy:
The hosts ponder why only a quarter of people wish to live to 100, discussing health, financial stability, and personal fulfillment.
Jack Armstrong:
"You know, your doctor once said... our goal is to get you to 99 years of age healthy with using as little medication as possible."
[44:16]
Student Loan Repayments:
Reflecting on the resurgence of student loan payments post-COVID and the disillusionment caused by broken promises from political leaders regarding loan forgiveness.
Jack Armstrong:
"One out of four student loan borrowers are behind on their payments since they started back up here not too long ago."
[46:35]
Ethical Considerations in Public Figures:
The hosts debate the ethics of harassing public officials and express strong opinions about figures like Anthony Fauci and Randy Weingarten.
Michael:
"How do you sleep at night, you horrible, horrible human."
[48:35]
These reflections offer listeners a blend of humor, frustration, and deep contemplation on pressing societal issues.
*Reiterating the earlier CRISPR discussion, the episode underscores the transformative impact of genetic editing through KJ's successful treatment, serving as a beacon of hope amidst the prevalent political and social challenges discussed.
As the episode wraps up, Armstrong and Michael touch upon lighter anecdotes and tease upcoming segments, maintaining their characteristic blend of humor and critical analysis.
Notable Quotes:
"I am not unhappy to have them come to this conclusion. And then we can argue about policies, but at least they, they won't be all bogged down in worthlessness."
Jack Armstrong
[10:53]
"Thing we're countering was a crazy social mania which came up very quickly and formed a bubble and corporations fell all over themselves to embrace unpopular policies promoted by activists."
Michael
[34:32]
"It's about defying what's natural and unavoidable, I think."
Jack Armstrong
[45:58]
Conclusion
In "When I'm Elected Emperor," Armstrong and Getty offer a critical lens on recent political maneuvers, corporate strategies, and societal shifts. Their candid discussions highlight the complexities of policy implementation, the tug-of-war between progressive ideals and shareholder interests, and the enduring impact of technological advancements. Balancing humor with sharp analysis, the episode provides listeners with a comprehensive overview of the current socio-political landscape.