When We Were "Bedlam & Squalor" We Had Great Ratings

Summary

Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand - "When We Were 'Bedlam & Squalor' We Had Great Ratings"

Release Date: August 11, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty
Guests: Dwight Howard, Lance Stevenson, Lon He Chen
Main Topics: Donald Trump's takeover of Washington, D.C. policing, crime statistics analysis, redistricting and gerrymandering in California and Texas, political landscape in U.S. states.

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1. Donald Trump's Takeover of Washington, D.C. Policing

The episode delves into a significant political event where former President Donald Trump announced a historic action to assume control over policing in Washington, D.C. This move is framed as a response to escalating crime rates in the nation's capital.

Notable Quote:

Donald Trump [03:36]: "I'm announcing a historic action to rescue our nation's capital from crime, bloodshed, bedlam, and squalor and worse. This is Liberation Day in D.C., and we're going to take our capital back."

Trump further elaborates on the legal basis for this action:

Donald Trump [05:32]: "Under the authorities vested in me as the President of the United States, I'm officially invoking Section 740 of the District of Columbia Home Rule Act... placing the D.C. Metropolitan Police Department under direct federal control."

He emphasizes the deployment of the National Guard to reestablish law and order, portraying the move as a necessary step to ensure public safety.

2. Analysis and Discussion on Crime Statistics in D.C.

Hosts and guests analyze the validity and manipulation of crime statistics in Washington, D.C. Dwight Howard expresses skepticism about the reliability of these statistics, suggesting potential manipulation to portray a favorable image.

Notable Quotes:

Dwight Howard [05:32]: "The three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics... I roll my eyes at all crime statistics now because they can be manipulated..."

Lance Stevenson [07:17]: "A D.C. police official is under investigation for faking crime statistics... aggressively pressured cops and other officials to undercharge to make his stay as police chief look better."

The discussion highlights concerns over the accuracy of reported crime rates, questioning whether the statistics genuinely reflect the situation or are skewed for political purposes. They debate whether the actual crime rates remain high despite reported declines, emphasizing the complexity of interpreting such data.

3. Redistricting and Gerrymandering in California and Texas

A substantial portion of the episode is dedicated to the topic of redistricting and gerrymandering, with expert insights from Lon He Chen of the Hoover Institution.

Discussion Highlights:

• California vs. Texas: California employs an independent commission for redistricting, aiming to depoliticize the process. In contrast, Texas allows the state legislature to draw district lines, which has led to accusations of partisan gerrymandering favoring Republicans.

• Impact on Representation: Jack Armstrong discusses the underrepresentation of Republican voters in California's congressional delegation, despite a significant statewide vote share. He criticizes Governor Gavin Newsom's attempts to redraw district lines, arguing it exacerbates the lack of political competition.

Notable Quotes:

Jack Armstrong [33:22]: "California's system hasn't worked perfectly, but now what Gavin Newsom is trying to do is he's trying to say we want to do away with this system... to me, that is just a massive affront to democracy."

Dwight Howard [33:49]: "California already is underrepresenting Republican voters by quite a lot with the number of House members they have even before you get to this."

The hosts and Lon He Chen explore the broader implications of single-party dominance in states, the erosion of political competition, and the challenges it poses to effective governance and representation.

4. The Political Landscape: Single-Party Governance in U.S. States

The conversation shifts to the prevalence of single-party governance across the United States, with statistics highlighting that fewer than one in five states has significant minority representation in their government.

Key Points:

• Lack of Competition: 40 out of 50 states are governed by a single party, limiting the diversity of ideas and reducing accountability.

• Consequences: This lack of political competition leads to unchecked policies, fiscal mismanagement, and underperformance in states like California.

Notable Quotes:

Jack Armstrong [37:26]: "The party in charge never really gets asked to justify what they're doing... we have to keep financing high-speed rail, we've got to keep on the books all of these laws that make it difficult for us to grow."

Lance Stevenson [39:14]: "Voters need to say we want a very different direction. It doesn't have to be for every single office, but we need some balance."

The hosts advocate for increased political competition to foster a marketplace of ideas, suggesting that balanced representation can lead to better governance and improved state performance.

5. Additional Discussions and Light-Hearted Segments

While the primary focus remains on political issues, the episode includes lighter conversations about personal experiences and fitness routines.

Fitness Segment: Dwight Howard shares his experience teaching his son to drive a stick shift and discusses the challenges of exercises like goblet squats, injecting humor into the conversation.

Notable Quotes:

Dwight Howard [19:58]: "Started in on teaching my son to drive over the weekend... driving a stick shift that's brand new to him."

Dwight Howard [50:00]: "That's the hardest exercise I've ever done... it's painful and horrible."

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Conclusion

The episode "When We Were 'Bedlam & Squalor' We Had Great Ratings" offers a comprehensive discussion on recent political developments, particularly focusing on Donald Trump's intervention in Washington, D.C.'s policing, the reliability of crime statistics, and the pervasive issue of gerrymandering in U.S. states. Through insightful analysis and engaging dialogue, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, along with their guests, provide listeners with a nuanced understanding of these complex issues, while also sprinkling in moments of levity to balance the serious discourse.

Notable Overall Quotes:

Donald Trump [03:36]: "This is Liberation Day in D.C., and we're going to take our capital back."

Jack Armstrong [33:22]: "Gavin Newsom's trying to do away with this system... just a massive affront to democracy."

Dwight Howard [05:32]: "I roll my eyes at all crime statistics now because they can be manipulated..."

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This summary encapsulates the key discussions and insights from the episode, providing a clear and organized overview for those who have not listened to the full podcast.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Lance Stevenson]

Ugh.

[Dwight Howard]

Come on.

[Lance Stevenson]

Why is this taking so long?

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[Lance Stevenson]

Hey.

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[Dwight Howard]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio.

[Michael Beasley]

Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Dwight Howard]

Armstrong and get. And now here's Armstrong and Giddy.

[Donald Trump]

I'm announcing a historic action to rescue our nation's capital from crime, bloodshed, bedlam and squalor and worse. This is Liberation Day in D.C. and we're going to take our capital back. We're taking it back.

[Dwight Howard]

Bedlam and squalor. Our original earnings.

[Lance Stevenson]

Enough when it was just bedlam. But then the squalor came. That's right. When we were bedlam and squalor. Good ratings.

[Dwight Howard]

So I feel like this story because so many journalists Live in Washington, D.C. how big a deal is this, the federal government taking over the policing of Washington, D.C. i think it could be.

[Lance Stevenson]

A great thing, although the media will never report it. Honestly, if the feds take control and they just like eliminate so much of the crime and the squalor and the rest. Bedlam. Ah, thank you. I think that'll be a great demonstration of how progressivism doesn't work because D.C. is famously a very progressive city.

[Dwight Howard]

Trump standing up there, he's still speaking right now. He's got Sec. Def. Pete Hegseth over one shoulder. He's got the attorney general over the other, and all the heavyweights in his cash. Patel just talked the FBI. All the heavyweights are in the room for this. And he goes on.

[Donald Trump]

Under the authorities vested in me as the President of the United States, I'm officially invoking Section 740 of the District of Columbia Home Rule Act. You know what that is. And placing the D.C. metropolitan Police Department under direct federal control. And you'll be meeting the people that will be directly involved with that. Very good people. But they're tough and they know what's happening and they've done it before. In addition, I'm deploying the National Guard to help reestablish law, order and public safety in Washington, D.C. and they're going to be allowed to do their job properly.

[Dwight Howard]

By the way, maybe the smartest thing Mark Twain ever said, and it is a high bar, is his quote about statistics. The three kinds of lies, lies, damned lies, and statistics. I roll my eyes at all crime statistics now because they can be manipulated in such a way to make it look like crime's going up or down all the time. Hasn't you felt like you've had that experience? I mean, it's really tough to figure out what the murder rate or, you know, or sometimes you take out murders so the other numbers look better or whatever. So, but, but all the talk over the weekend leading up to this, because Trump had telegraphed this, the mainstream media all weekend was pointing out how crime is actually down in Washington, D.C. a lot. And so there's no reason to do that. But like I said, I, I roll my eyes at all crime statistics. Maybe that's true, maybe it's not. I haven't got the slightest idea. But this portion of what Trump said is pretty interesting.

[Donald Trump]

You want to have safety in the streets. You want to be able to leave your apartment or your house where you live and feel safe and go into a store to buy a newspaper or buy something, and you don't have that. Now, the murder rate in Washington today is higher than that of Bogota, Colombia, Mexico City, some of the places that you hear about as being the worst places on earth, much higher. This is much higher.

[Dwight Howard]

So I'll bet that that Doge kid, young member of the Doge team that got the crap beat out of him last weekend in a very trendy bar, restaurant area, some carjackers, and he was trying to protect his girlfriend, etc. He got beat up bad. It's just luck that the police happened to roll by or he'd probably be in the hospital or dead. I'm sure that one got Trump's attention. Trump had probably met the guy.

[Lance Stevenson]

Yeah, yeah, I was just trying to find an article and I can't. I had it the other day that a D.C. police official is under investigation now for faking crime statistics and that a lot of what's being cited right now as a drop in crime was completely phony. He aggressively pressured cops and other officials to undercharge to make his stay as police chief look better. I don't have the particulars in front of me. Take that with a grain of salt, but we'll get them for you eventually.

[Dwight Howard]

But again, all the reporting was, well, let's just play 32. Just so you know, this was the way it was reported on ABC or News Nation. All this comes as Data from the.

[Lance Stevenson]

D.C. police Department shows violent crime actually down 26% compared to the same time last year.

[Dwight Howard]

DC's own mayor recently pushing back against this spotlight on the District's crime.

[Jack Armstrong]

We had a terrible spike in crime in 2023, but this is not 2023, this is 2025. And we've done that by working with the community, working with the police, working with our prosecutors, and in fact working, working with the federal government.

[Dwight Howard]

Well, I would. Even if I were to, even if those statistics are real, and you're suggesting that there's a chance they're not, but even those statistics are real, I would need to know, okay, if you had a spike in 23 and it dropped quite a bit in 24, is it still really high by historic standards? It certainly could be.

[Lance Stevenson]

Right, exactly.

[Dwight Howard]

Yeah.

[Lance Stevenson]

Just because it's dropped doesn't mean it's dropped toward anything approaching an acceptable level.

[Dwight Howard]

Yeah. Again, I, I wish this wasn't a problem, but so many statistics, I just, I don't even really read them because I've been fooled so many times.

[Lance Stevenson]

Well, and we've heard specifically from cops and people in the law enforcement system and judges and sort of people that those statistics are particularly easy to. In particularly. They're, they're particularly easy to manipulate and particularly. And they, and they are regularly. So I'll be interested to see how this goes. There seems to be a real deficiency in voters of the left in, in recognizing how policy relates to the world they live, connecting policy to what they see, connecting policy to results. And if indeed a right wingy crackdown on crime yields a much better, safer, healthier city, I would love to see what the reaction is to that. I'm sure they will scream racism or whatever, point out a disparity in arrests and blah, blah, blah.

[Dwight Howard]

So the press conference is still going on and I would assume at some point somebody's going to ask Trump about Russia, Ukraine and him meeting Putin, which is the biggest story of the week. Probably. But the press conference is still going on and like I said, all the heavyweights are there. Why are all the heavyweights there? For the D.C. police takeover, but over his shoulder, the Secretary of Defense or the Navy seals going in and over his other shoulder right now it's what's his name from North Dakota? What is he?

[Lance Stevenson]

Doug Burgum, Secretary of the, in Interior. How's that factor in there in the country, Jack? The interior of the country. Clearly. Do the math. I guess it's all because they live and work in D.C. all hands on.

[Dwight Howard]

Deck for this one.

[Lance Stevenson]

In a not really related story, although it has to do with the Trump administration.

[Dwight Howard]

Wait, wait just one. Janine Pirro is talking right now. If you watch Fox, you know who she is. U.S. attorney for D.C. currently. She appears to be. I'd never seen her next to other people. She appears to be 4 foot 6. She's a very barely peering over the.

[Lance Stevenson]

Podium, but strong and great in personnel.

[Dwight Howard]

There you go.

[Lance Stevenson]

Anyway, U.S. district Judge in the Southern District of New York has said he will not unseal grand jury testimony records in the Ghislaine Maxwell case. On Friday, the Justice Department asked two New York judges to unseal the exhibits related to Ms. Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein. The judge wrote, and his refusal was actually interesting. Interesting unless you believe that this is all a gigantic conspiracy sometimes run by the Jews. But the judge wrote he would not release the records because they did not answer questions that remained from the public relating to those people's crimes or Epstein's death. The judge added that the records did not reveal any new or meaningful information about the pair's crimes, going against the government's claims that they would. The judge called it demonstrably false, adding that the push to release the documents could be a diversion plan.

[Dwight Howard]

So they got to him, too.

[Lance Stevenson]

Okay. That's all you have to say? Yeah. He accused the government. Their motion for the unsealing was not aimed at transparency but at diversion. Aimed at not a full disclosure, but the illusion of such. And then he wrote, and here's the key part. The records do not identify anyone other than Epstein or Maxwell who had sexual contact with a minor, mention any clients, shed light on their methods or provide any new information about Epstein's death.

[Dwight Howard]

So he's part of it. I'm kidding. I don't mean that. But I know people who will say that today. Lots of people. And the problem with this is you can't be releasing this sort of stuff where a whole bunch of people who didn't do a damn thing wrong, their names are going to be involved and the Internet will go wild with. It's just. That's not good.

[Lance Stevenson]

Right. Well, in the law says grand jury proceedings are right. Are sealed.

[Dwight Howard]

Right. For. Well, for obvious reasons. You could get caught up in a grand jury sometime where you've done nothing wrong.

[Lance Stevenson]

As I predicted last week, this will go away. Among the vast majority of Americans, there are consciousnesses just because it'll be eclipsed by much more significant events.

[Dwight Howard]

Are the Texas Democrats still on the run? Or have they been hunted down like dogs and brought back in cages to.

[Lance Stevenson]

Texas in some sort of weird dog hunt? I don't know actually I think they're still on the run.

[Dwight Howard]

I think there are two. But we're going to talk to Lonnie He Chen, one of our favorite analysts, particularly about California politics, on how, you know, California has been playing the redistricting game forever. This is not new.

[Lance Stevenson]

What they're doing in Texas in particularly.

[Dwight Howard]

And a bunch of other stuff on the way.

[Lance Stevenson]

Stay here in particularly Armstrong and Gettysburg.

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[Dwight Howard]

Why is this taking so long?

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[Dwight Howard]

You will recognize this sound. You probably haven't heard it in a while. It's no longer out there for you. This is a throwb throwback. Wendy Monday. Here we go. That is the famous sound of dialing up AOL America Online from back in the day. That was most of our entry points into email for one thing, and then any kind of social media. Back in the day you got mail. Thank you. Thank you for that.

[Lance Stevenson]

I How exciting.

[Dwight Howard]

I probably still have mail on my oaol account from so after 34 years I think I read as of today they no longer have a dial up application. They still did.

[Lance Stevenson]

Wow. As of today, like two families in rural Tennessee.

[Dwight Howard]

I don't know. But the, the most recent statistics I heard were from 2019 where there was still a quarter of a million people doing the dial up for aol. They probably also eat roadkill and marry their sisters. But wow.

[Lance Stevenson]

Wait a minute now. Unfortunate cliche.

[Dwight Howard]

But you. But they're. Hey, sorry, Clem, you and your sister wife are going to have to get WI fi or something because no longer dial up for aol. So that's the end of that.

[Lance Stevenson]

And I remember downloading stuff for the show at the dawn of the Internet. And if anybody called the house while I was doing it, it completely ruined the whole process, which took like 15 minutes to download, you know, a handful of pages worth of text.

[Dwight Howard]

Yeah, it certainly looked there for quite a few years that this was never like gonna catch on and be that big a deal. But little did we know, totally overrated. So there's that. This is gonna be a tease for something we will do. How much time I got, Michael?

[Donald Trump]

You've got about five minutes.

[Dwight Howard]

Maybe I'll start here. Started in on teaching my son to drive over the weekend. Specifically driving a stick shift. We've done a lot of driving, living on a farm. Like we have 20 acres and he's driven all over in various vehicles since he was, I don't know, seven years old. So you can just put him in a field with the truck and go drive around, try not to hit something and nothing happens. So it's not that he hadn't ever driven before, but driving a stick shift that's brand new to him. This a vehicle that I bought him is a five speed, so I was interesting. He did.

[Lance Stevenson]

Very hard to find, aren't they?

[Dwight Howard]

He did very, very well. I was very excited for him and he seemed to really enjoy it. So that was fun. Killed it once. I said, you're gonna kill it in front of your friends. Guaranteed you're gonna kill it in front of your friends and it's gonna be embarrassing. It happens. You'll be all right. But.

[Lance Stevenson]

Yeah, but they don't know how to drive a stick.

[Dwight Howard]

Probably not.

[Lance Stevenson]

For all they know, he's captain captaining the Starship Enterprise, you know.

[Dwight Howard]

Right.

[Lance Stevenson]

Be mysterious and difficult in their eyes.

[Dwight Howard]

This is what we're going to do in the One More Thing podcast. And if you don't listen to that every day after the four hours of radio that we do, we do another podcast only thing called One More Thing. And you can find it wherever you find Armstrong and get a podcast wherever you're finding Armstrong and getty on demand. But we'll get to this. Today there was a survey done that I found this interesting as a single guy. The most attractive hobbies to women that a man can have. And they listed them by a lot, like a whole bunch of them. And this. This is legit. It's not a dumb survey. The most attractive hobbies to women. The least attractive hobbies to women. And we can go through them in detail. But I was happy to see that the most attractive hobby to women as a percentage, at 98.2% favorability, was reading.

[Lance Stevenson]

Cross dressing.

[Dwight Howard]

Oh, reading as a reader.

[Lance Stevenson]

Maybe you can swap clothes and stuff. No, reading is, as it turns out. Okay, go on.

[Dwight Howard]

Cross dressing would have an advantage, wouldn't it, if it was your size? You'd have to date a guy your size.

[Lance Stevenson]

Yeah.

[Dwight Howard]

So they have to be, well, depending on your size, a pretty, pretty small dude or. Well, it depends.

[Lance Stevenson]

Famously, some of the tiny little fellas in the Rolling Stones, that's how they got their fashion sense as they swapped clothes with their girlfriends.

[Dwight Howard]

Wow.

[Lance Stevenson]

Because dudes were so skinny and weedy at that point.

[Dwight Howard]

Have I ever had a girlfriend I could swap clothes with? I'm pretty sure not because I'm a D cup. So. So we'll get into the list when we do the One More Thing podcast. But just why do you think reading is the most attractive trait to women? What's your theory on that?

[Lance Stevenson]

Oh, I'm not sure I could come up with anything that isn't, like, super obvious. I mean, it shows a certain level of mental power, curiosity, intellect.

[Dwight Howard]

So is it basically just, I want a smart person, his brain works. So is that just, like, shorthand for I want a smart person?

[Lance Stevenson]

You know, interesting about this list, and I haven't seen it yet, but.

[Jack Armstrong]

There'S.

[Lance Stevenson]

The question of universal acceptance, because you said it's 98% or so. But how much enthusiasm does it generate? Is it great or is it just acceptable to everyone? You know what I mean, right?

[Dwight Howard]

Yes, Michael, I think you're trying to.

[Lance Stevenson]

Show that you're bettering yourself and so that you're looking to gain more knowledge. You're looking to be a better man.

[Dwight Howard]

That could be.

[Jack Armstrong]

That.

[Dwight Howard]

That's pretty good, too.

[Lance Stevenson]

That's a good astute observation.

[Dwight Howard]

That was do you want the least. Oh, popular. And then we'll do the whole list. I don't exactly know what I mean, but the. Is it a hobby they have as a hobby? Manosphere, which is what they call people who listen to, like, Joe Rogan and all those kind of podcasts and are into that sort of thing.

[Lance Stevenson]

Well, more like the Tate brothers and some of the real misogynist stuff.

[Dwight Howard]

That's the least popular. Well, why would that be popular?

[Lance Stevenson]

People that are into sending it.

[Dwight Howard]

No, for women. Of course it's not popular. Only 3.1% who are your 3.1%? You know what I like in a guy? Guys who hate me because I'm a woman. That's what I really like in a guy. You're weird.

[Lance Stevenson]

Contempt for me?

[Dwight Howard]

Yes, me and all my friends.

[Lance Stevenson]

Then dog fighting.

[Dwight Howard]

Anyway, we'll get to that list. It's actually pretty entertaining. We're gonna have Lonnie Chen talk about redistricting and what California has done compared to Texas. I think you'll find it o eye opening.

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[Dwight Howard]

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[Donald Trump]

Need to, we're gonna do the same thing in Chicago, which is a disaster. We have a mayor there who's totally incompetent. He's an incompetent man and we have an incompetent governor there. Pritzker is an incompetent his family threw him out of the business. Business. And he ran for governor. And now I understand he wants to be president, but I noticed he lost a little weight, so maybe he has a chance. You know, you never know what happens. But Pritzker is a gross incompetent guy, thrown out of the family business.

[Dwight Howard]

Okay? So that Pritzker dude, he's the governor of Illinois. And he's been making a lot of hay with the help of the mainstream media over the last couple of weeks, welcoming the Texas Democrats who have fled Texas to try to stop redistricting in their home state because it would give.

[Lance Stevenson]

The Republicans shameless gerrymandering.

[Dwight Howard]

It would give the Republicans maybe five more seats. So they ran to Illinois, where they uphold democracy. Except for everybody with any credibility has pointed out Illinois is the most gerrymandered state in the whole country. So you ran to the wrong state to make your point.

[Lance Stevenson]

So gerrymandering in general, the fact that we're dividing ourselves into red states and blue states, et cetera. Let's discuss with lan He Chen, the David and Diane Steffey Fellow in American Public Policy Studies at the Hoover Institution and the Director of Domestic Policy Studies at Stanford University. Lonhi, before we get into the main discussion, here's my favorite domestic policy headline of the day. North Carolina DMV hits all DEI targets, Misses All Road Safety Goals. Priorities. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boy, there's an efficient bureaucracy at work.

[Dwight Howard]

So I was glad to see you on one of the Sunday talk shows yesterday pushing back at this narrative that Texas is doing something nobody's ever even thought of doing before.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, the Texas redistricting, I mean, just to back up for a minute, the idea of state legislature in Texas redrawing lines. I mean, that's what the state legislature is empowered to do in Texas. And the fact that they're talking about this being an unprecedented, you know, I guess we call it a mid cycle redistricting. The reality is this happened in 2003, and so this is not the first time it's happened. Look, I don't necessarily think all of this back and forth is great, but I will say that the concept of now, you know, California and Illinois and states saying, oh, we got to fight back, it's just a ludicrous notion because particularly in California, the way that lines are drawn is really different from the way that they're drawn in Texas. And so you can go and say you want to do something in California to respond to what they're doing in Texas, but the reality is one is legal and one is not.

[Lance Stevenson]

Well, in what sense?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, so in California, district lines are drawn by an independent commission. And California voters passed twice actually, two constitutional amendments back in 2008 and 2010 to the California Constitution that took power for redistricting away from politicians and tried to put it in the hands of an independent commission. That independent commission is composed of 14 people, five Democrats, five Republicans, and four people without party preference. And the concept was, look, you want to try to take politics as much out of this as possible, because if you leave redistricting in the hands of politicians, what's going to happen? They're going to protect their own interests. They're going to draw lines that are best for them rather than for, you know, the promotion of fair and efficient representation. So look, the California system hasn't worked perfectly, but now what Gavin Newsom is trying to do is he's trying to say we want to do away with this system, not for good, but just for one election. I want to draw special lines just for 2026, and then go back to this process because I don't like the lines the way that they are right now. And to me, that is as much a subversion of democracy as anything that he or any other of his allies have attacked with what's happening with Donald Trump or what's happening in Washington. The concept that we're gonna now set aside these lines cuz we don't like them, to me, is just a massive affront to democracy. So what's happening in California, just to set this up, guys, is really different from what they're doing in Texas, because in Texas, the legislature has the right to redistrict as they want. We may not like it, but they have that right to do it in California. The legislature does not have that right anymore.

[Dwight Howard]

So first of all, There was a YouGov poll about a week ago. Only 6% of people like gerrymandering at all. I don't like it. I wish it didn't happen anywhere to the best extent that you could avoid it. But I think I read this in National Review that California already is underrepresenting Republican voters by quite a lot with the number of House members they have even before you get to this. Isn't that correct?

[Jack Armstrong]

That is correct. So if you think about the typical statewide share for Republican candidate in California, you guys may remember I ran for comptroller in 2022 statewide and got the.

[Dwight Howard]

Most votes of any Republican candidate in the entire country, including Ron DeSantis, which is an incredible feather in your cap.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thank You. You guys are like my hype men. So in that race, I won 45% of the vote. 45ish percent of the vote. The typical Republican wins about 40%. And just to give you some sense, we have Republicans have nine out of 52 seats right now. So they have 17% of the seats. 17% of the seats, but 40% of the statewide vote share. And then to put it into even more refined point, what Gavin Newsom is trying to do is he's trying to draw lines that would reduce the number of Republicans in Congress from California to 4 out of 52, which is about 7.5%, 6%. He wants to go from essentially what is anywhere between. So even if you take the most generous measure, which is what percent generous for Newsom, what percentage of Californians are registered as Republicans? That's 24%. Okay, 24, 25%. So even by that bare measure, he is trying to underrepresent Republicans, you know, to a pretty significant extent. If you think about 7.6% of the House members being Republican, 24% of California voters are registered Republican. And then Californians traditionally vote about 40% for the Republican candidate. So it is a massive underrepresentation of Republicans in California that Gavin Newsom's trying to get to.

[Dwight Howard]

Yeah, and that's outrageous. And the national media, and, you know, this is part of the deal, if you lean, if you're on the conservative end of politics, you get used to the national media screwing you all the time. But their portrayal of Texas doing something so incredibly unholy, but not talking about Illinois and California is outrageous.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, Illinois, they can't even. They couldn't produce another Democratic seat if they wanted to. That's how heavily gerrymandered it is already. I mean, they cannot squeeze any more juice out of that, out of that, out of that fruit. And by the way, you can say similar things about other states as well. The challenge for Democrats, though, guys, is if they go down this road, this is a losing pathway for them because there are many more states with Republican governors and Republican state legislatures where there is an opportunity, if Republicans really wanted to gerrymander, to gerrymander more Democrats out of office. That's just the reality of it. So I'm a little puzzled about. And look, I get why Newsom's doing it. Newsom's doing it because he's running for governor, excuse me, for president, and he wants to look like a fighter. I actually wrote a piece in the LA Times last week to this effect. Basically, the reason why Gavin Newsom is pursuing this now is because he wants to ingratiate himself to Democratic primary voters to look like a fighter against Donald Trump. He doesn't talk about redistricting in terms of what's best for the state of the country. He talks about it in terms of fighting back against Trump. And that's really what this is all about. So it's unfortunate, but that's just the political reality we face.

[Lance Stevenson]

We were talking about a think piece earlier today in the Wall Street Journal that pointed out that fewer than one out of five states has any significant minority representation in their government. In other words, in 40 states, a single party has the trifecta, or might as well, both houses of the legislature and the governor's office. What's the problem with that from your perspective?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, I mean, look, I take issue with single party governance whether, whether it happens in a state like Texas or a state like California, where it's very different concepts. And I think the challenge is that the party in charge never really gets asked to justify what they're doing. They never really get examined in the way that they need to. And so what you end up with is a lot of things like fiscal mismanagement, which is what we see in California in droves. You see policies that go unquestioned. And so there's just no question that we got to keep lurching left, we got to keep financing high speed rail, we've got to keep on the books all of these laws that make it difficult for us to grow and invest businesses in California. So there's all of these things that are assumptions that are made by the ruling party and those assumptions remain untested. If you have unit party governance and you have it in California, you see it here. And I'll tell you the ultimate challenge is that you end up performing as a state below what you really should be, should be able to do. And so I always say California kind of punches below its weight. And one of the reasons why is because the state is not subject to any kind of political competition that would cause a competition of ideas. That's how things improve in states is that you have a competition of ideas and the best ideas win. Whether those ideas are left of center ideas or right of center ideas. We just don't have that with unit party governance. So I think that's the biggest thing that I worry about is the lack of political competition, not just in California, but as you guys know absolutely correctly, 40 out of the 50 states have, have basically no political competition. And that's Unfortunate.

[Lance Stevenson]

So other than waiting for the electorate to say this state sucks, we want something different. Is there anything that can be done about all of this, including the alleged gerrymandering?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I think it's important for. For light to be shed on. On some of the challenges that get faced when you. When you don't have. When. When. When you don't have the political power to push back. That's why, you know, folks like what you guys are doing and what a lot of people out there who have their own platforms are doing is to point out, look, here are the challenges that are created. But you're right, ultimately, if we want to change this, it is going to require voters to say, we want a very different direction. And it doesn't have to be for every single office in the state. We don't have to turn from a, you know, a blue state into a red state. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying I think we need to be able to have some balance. And when you have at least nine Republican members of Congress in a delegation, that at least helps you have a little bit more pushback than when you have four. Right. And so we just have to continue, in my mind, shedding light on the challenges that are created when one party's in charge and nobody ever asks any questions.

[Lance Stevenson]

Final question. Headline came out today. Trump announces that the federal government's gonna take over, at least to a large extent, the policing of Washington, D.C. as a. A public policy guy. Any. Any thoughts on that?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, Washington has always been a jurisdiction that, that. That has a little bit of a different flavor than, let's say, if he came in and said he wanted to take over law enforcement in a state. Right. We would have much more of an issue. But Washington, D.C. has always, in a lot of ways, been governed, and the expectations around it are very different. I would add to that. I mean, you guys, I don't know if You've been in D.C. recently. I'm there a lot of the crime situation and the governance of that city has really, in my mind, fallen into some form of disrepair. And so we do need something to happen in that city because people are no longer able to walk around all parts of that city safely. They've never been able to walk around all parts of the city safely. But even parts of that city that were considered safe, there was a congressional staffer that got stabbed and killed, I want to say, just a few months ago, random acts of violence. So these sorts of things need to be addressed. And so I think the President's trying to do that.

[Lance Stevenson]

That.

[Dwight Howard]

Hey, Lonnie. My son wears a Dodgers cap. I took him to Dodger Stadium for the first time last month, you'll be happy to know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Good for you.

[Dwight Howard]

Now for you, he came to the Dodgers through Ice Cube wearing a Dodgers hat more than through sports. But you know, however you get there, in your opinion, I'm sure he's, he's.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like the, you know, the modern day Billy Graham for the Dodgers, right? He's the evangelist. He's the evangelist.

[Dwight Howard]

He absolutely is.

[Lance Stevenson]

These are odd times. Lon He Chen of the Hoover Institution, Stanford University with us. Lon he, thank you so much for the thoughts. It's always a pleasure.

[Jack Armstrong]

Great to be with you. Thanks, guys.

[Dwight Howard]

That's great. Ice Cube is the Billy Graham of pre Dodgers fans.

[Lance Stevenson]

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[Dwight Howard]

Katie, I want to ask you about goblet squats and when we come back, among other things, stay here, Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

The reviews and ratings are in and Ice Cube's Big Three is the surprise hit of the summer this Saturday, 4pm Eastern on CBS, with playoff elimination on the line, the stars will be flocking to Los Angeles to witness the most physical, fiercest and competitive basketball in the world. Miami's Michael Beasley and Lance Stevenson must win over Houston to make the playoffs, reeling from last week's savage beating at the hands of Chicago's possessed Montreal Trez Harrell. Last time these teams met, Miami beat Houston, but they are a dangerous team having their manhood at stake. Then breakout star Dwight Howard of the LA Riot will battle Gary Payton's Boston squad in a do or die match for both teams will LA avenge their previous shocking loss to perennial basketball Boston rivals? To survive, six teams are allowed for four spots and all must win. Don't miss the Big Three, the three on three basketball league everyone is talking about. There's no crying in the big three and the no hold spot action starts Saturday at 4pm Eastern, 1pm Pacific followed by two games on Vice starting at 6:30 Eastern.

[Dwight Howard]

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[Gary Payton]

This taking so long?

[Lance Stevenson]

This thing is ancient.

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[Lon He Chen]

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[Michael Beasley]

I got the exact same order from Chipotle with a girly name, my name, and with a man's name. I changed my customer account name and everything. So let's see who they gave more food to. Ladies first. We're gonna start with mine. This is Emily Joy.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's not a bad portion.

[Michael Beasley]

And this one, I use the name Andrew.

[Dwight Howard]

Feels a little heavy, but let's see.

[Michael Beasley]

That looks a lot more full. This makes me really mad.

[Dwight Howard]

This woman claims she did an experiment where she ordered food at Chipotle with a man's name and a woman's name, and they give men more food. I don't believe that.

[Lance Stevenson]

I don't believe much of a data set.

[Michael Beasley]

No.

[Lance Stevenson]

But I just believe it.

[Dwight Howard]

You believe it on the face of it, that at restaurants, they give men more than women. Yeah. Really?

[Lance Stevenson]

Yeah. Airing just a little bit to the side of pleasing the customer, the fellas might be more prone to saying, hey, help a guy out there. Is that as much meat as you said?

[Dwight Howard]

And then the second part of my. Well, first of all, Kat, are a woman. What do you think? I think that's crap if it's true, but I've never noticed it. I. Well, I've been a crusader for a long time now is we they need to give smaller portions to everyone all.

[Lance Stevenson]

The time, especially the little ladies.

[Dwight Howard]

Why are they giving all of us so much food? Do you really need to. So you need to use your man's name. You're not getting enough with the. The Chipotle serving the.

[Lance Stevenson]

The burrito that comes out fat shaming.

[Dwight Howard]

The poor Internet lady. Fat shaming. Everybody, it's an experiment.

[Lance Stevenson]

She wants to get her money's worth.

[Dwight Howard]

They hand you the burrito at Chipotle. It's the same as when they handed me Sam when he was born. Swaddling it. Anyway.

[Lance Stevenson]

So is fat shaming the planet.

[Dwight Howard]

Hear that? So the portions are too big. So I go to the gym every day. That's what happens when your wife leaves you. You part of the comes with a lawyer and a subpoena and a gym membership. When you become single, you have to start working out again to get back in the game. Oh, it's horrible, actually. But I do work out every day. And a buddy of mine asked me the other day, he said, have you tried. Tried goblet squats? Because we were talking about how we hate doing leg exercises. It's just a common thing of dudes. They hate leg day. He said, have you done tried goblet?

[Lance Stevenson]

Goblet squats sounds like something you can only see on the dark web. Well, I.

[Dwight Howard]

He explained it to me and then I chat gpd it. And I said it misheard me. I said, what is a goblin squat? And. And it said, I think you mean goblet squat. Goblin squat sounds like something you do to scare villagers in a fantasy novel level. Which is true.

[Lance Stevenson]

Right.

[Dwight Howard]

But do you know goblet squats, Katie?

[Lance Stevenson]

I do, and I hate them.

[Dwight Howard]

Yeah, it. So you. You take a dumbbell?

[Lance Stevenson]

I do them all the time. For what it's worth, thanks for including me. I'll just stand over here, mind my own business.

[Dwight Howard]

I'd never even heard the term before, so I didn't know it was so popular. I'm still doing the workouts of, like, the 70s because I don't do any research on this. So, you know, I'm throwing around the old medicine ball and the big gray sweatshirt.

[Lance Stevenson]

We actually do that again. The medicine ball. What's old is new. It's back in.

[Dwight Howard]

I'm standing on the thing with the band around you. That shakes you.

[Lance Stevenson]

Yes, but.

[Dwight Howard]

So the only reason that I need. I'm surprised you do it because you're a shorter woman, that you need to do that. But the goblet squat, I guess, was invented for taller people because squats are really hard to do. If you're tall, you tip over. And the advantage of the goblet squat is you hold the weight in front of you. You don't tip over. It's the first time I've ever been able to do squats in my life because just the leverage balance thing doesn't work.

[Lance Stevenson]

If you're taller, I question your form. But Katie fitness, you can't have form.

[Dwight Howard]

Without falling over if you're taller, according to the guy who invented the goblet squat. Okay, well I'm not gonna argue with.

[Lance Stevenson]

Them, but that seems odd.

[Dwight Howard]

Does it?

[Lance Stevenson]

I've. I've not once seen a tall man fall over attempting to do a squat in the gym.

[Dwight Howard]

Interesting. I don't know. All I know is that's why I hate him so much. It was hard to not fall over and guy who invented him said but nobody cares about this. But the it was the hardest exercise I've ever done. When I got done with it, I was more tired than anything I've ever done in the gym and I have a new least favorite exercise that I'll probably do semi regularly. But it was painful and horrible for.

[Lance Stevenson]

Us, the older feller and or woman. It's a it's a good thing to do to help prevent falls to just get a little more extreme explosive power in the legs, slash catching yourself before you go down power. It's really good for you.

[Dwight Howard]

I do like the idea of inventing something called a Goblin squat, though. I feel like that would catch on.

[Lance Stevenson]

Boogity boogity.

[Dwight Howard]

Now squat. You wear the little elf ears and it's part of a cosplay thing.

[Lance Stevenson]

Maybe you could mermaid after that. Remember, we learned about that.

[Dwight Howard]

Yes, when you're done mermaiding, you can do your Goblin squats. It would just be a fun day if you missed a segment or an hour. Get the podcast Armstrong and Yeti on demand.

[Michael Beasley]

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[Joe Getty]

Ice Cube's big three is the surprise hit of the summer. This Saturday, 4pm Eastern on CBS. With playoff elimination on the line, the most physical, fiercest and competitive basketball in the world. Miami's Michael Beasley and Lance Stevenson must win to make the playoffs, and breakout star Dwight Howard of the LA Riot will battle Gary Payton's Boston squad in a do or die match for both both teams. Six teams are allowed for four spots and all must win. There's no crying in the big three, and the no holds barred action starts Saturday at 4pm Eastern, 1pm Pacific.

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