When You Enjoy Hating Something

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand — "When You Enjoy Hating Something" (March 12, 2026)
Podcast: Armstrong & Getty On Demand
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Guest: Military Analyst Mike Lyons

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into several pressing topics of international conflict, domestic security, and the cultural climate in America. The hosts, alongside military analyst Mike Lyons, break down current military operations against Iran, the challenges in securing strategic shipping lanes, rising antisemitic attacks in the U.S., media biases in covering such events, and the cultural phenomenon of the Oscars. The tone is candid, occasionally sardonic, and openly critical of government, media, and cultural trends.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Situation in the Strait of Hormuz and Iran Conflict

[00:12–10:14]

• Iran’s Leverage & Military Threats:
  • Iran's control over the Strait of Hormuz gives them strategic leverage despite having limited overall power.
  • “One of the most important shipping lanes in the world, 20% of the world's oil travels through there, and there ain't none traveling out of there except for Iran exporting to China.” — Jack Armstrong [00:59]
• Why Not Eliminate the Threat?
  • Joe Getty questions why the U.S. can't take out Iranian missile/artillery capabilities threatening shipping.
  • Mike Lyons explains the multi-layered threat:
    • Shore artillery, ballistic missiles from inland, asymmetrical threats (small boats, mines, drone swarms).
    • Complete military destruction would require “bombs away” operations similar to Desert Storm and possibly Special Ops to secure nuclear material.
  • “You’d need 12 to 14 Arleigh Burke class carriers...and just do nothing but bombs away...just decimated.” — Jack Armstrong [03:06]
• Progress & Concerns After Two Weeks of Conflict:
  • Lyons says U.S. and allies have degraded Iran’s military assets by about 90% but that remaining missiles are still a threat.
  • Remaining challenges: Preventing mass-casualty attacks and keeping critical sea lanes open.

2. Innovation in Warfare & Lessons from Ukraine

[08:27–10:04]

• Discussion on U.S. and Russian drone usage, electronic warfare, radar spoofing, and how experience from Ukraine is informing current US operations.
  • “We have A10s going after drones...Innovation is always our great strength.” — Jack Armstrong [08:27]

3. Domestic Impacts and Threat Assessments

[14:47–17:34]

• Drone Threats to the U.S. West Coast:
  • Recent law enforcement briefings suggest no credible threat of Iranian drone attacks, but hosts discuss the hypothetical vulnerabilities.
  • They highlight how modern military technology means attacks could be launched from unmanned vessels thousands of miles away.
• Political Image-Building:
  • Criticism of California Gov. Gavin Newsom for his performative response, appearing “presidential” [16:12].
  • Mocking media hysteria versus real threat.

4. Antisemitic Attacks and Media Silence

[19:08–31:19]

• Beating of Two Israeli Americans in San Jose:
  • Jack & Joe discuss a violent attack on Hebrew-speaking men, the attackers yelling “don’t mess with Iran," and how the story was underreported by local and national media.
  • “...There’s nothing in there...Not a peep about this.” — Joe Getty [22:09]
• Criticism of Media Bias & Selective Outrage:
  • The hosts argue that if the victim identities were reversed (Jews attacking Muslims), the story would be national news.
  • They point to a broader reluctance to confront antisemitism, especially when it conflicts with "progressive" narratives.
  • “It sounds like I’m on Trump’s side of this...These people are liars. Oh my God.” — Joe Getty [28:46]
• Historical Parallels & Concerns Over Social Climate:
  • Comparisons made to 1930s Germany and China’s Cultural Revolution to illustrate how societies ignore or enable persecution.
  • “I never could understand it my whole life...Now all that stuff is happening here.” — Joe Getty [26:52]
  • Voltaire: “Those who can make you recite absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Paraphrased by Mike Lyons [27:09]

5. Oscars Disillusionment & Cultural Critique

[32:54–36:49]

• Oscars Are About Image, Not Merit:
  • Discussion about how Oscars are awarded based on sentiment and campaigning rather than talent.
  • Interesting stats: Young women and old men win most often; no man under 30 has ever won a Best Actor Oscar.
  • “Because your speech was so heartfelt, you’re going to win the Oscar. That’s a good way to decide who’s the best actor.” — Joe Getty [33:42]
• Public Disengagement:
  • Hosts mock the idea that most people care deeply about movies or the Oscars anymore.
  • Joe: “With all the entertainment options out there...why do we ever pay attention to it?” [36:28]
• Oscars as “Rage Hate” Viewing:
  • Previews likely post-Oscar coverage will focus on mocking political speeches rather than the ceremony itself.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the nature of war & media spin:
  • “If the other side is at war with you, you don’t get to pretend there’s not a war going on.” — Joe Getty [12:38]
• On asymmetrical threats:
  • “The point is how much can we trip them to? All they have to do is get through one time for that kind of incident to happen. And that does change the calculus.” — Jack Armstrong [08:27]
• On societal denial:
  • “It is kind of...with all the entertainment options out there.” — Joe Getty on the fading relevance of the Oscars [36:50]
• On media’s role and identity politics:
  • “Don’t you show the faces to help the police investigation...the leftists in the Bay Area thinking, 'Oh, I’m afraid of an anti-Muslim backlash'.” — Mike Lyons [30:23]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:12 — Show introduction, context of Iran conflict
• 01:31 — Intro of military analyst Mike Lyons
• 03:06 — How to take out Iran’s ability to choke the Strait of Hormuz
• 04:47 — How the US is progressing in the conflict, attrition, military targets
• 07:20 — Fears of mass-casualty events
• 08:27 — Innovation in drone/missile warfare
• 14:47 — Domestic US drone threat “false alarm” and Newsom’s messaging
• 19:08 — Antisemitic attack story, media bias, rise in hate crimes
• 26:52 — Historical comparisons to Nazi Germany and China’s Cultural Revolution
• 32:54 — Oscars talk: voting process, demographics, public apathy
• 36:21 — Concluding thoughts on Oscars, upcoming podcast hour tease

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Tone & Style

The episode is energetic, irreverent, and sometimes acerbic. The conversation flows freely, often blending current events analysis with cultural and media criticism, using a mix of humor, incredulity, and somber reflection. The hosts and guest don’t hesitate to challenge political and media figures, call out hypocrisy, and question the motivations behind public narratives.

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Summary

This Armstrong & Getty episode provides an in-depth look at the ongoing conflict with Iran, focusing on military strategy and asymmetrical threats, then pivots to concerns about rising antisemitism and media indifference in the U.S., and ends with a satirical take on the Oscars and cultural obsession with celebrity awards. Listeners are left with a frank, unfiltered perspective on international crises, societal trends, and the ways we “enjoy hating” certain cultural events.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

This is an iHeart podcast, guaranteed human

[Joe Getty]

broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center,

[Jack Armstrong]

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. I think from a strategic standpoint, not a tactical standpoint, putting economic pressure on nations around the globe, I think is a point of leverage that they feel that they have not only in the short term, but in the long term. I believe that they're going to have an inventory now and be able to continue to threaten the streets, our moves, by any number of means for quite a while. And when the merchant shipping industry doesn't feel safe going through and the insurance rates are too high, they're just not going to do it.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I do think that Iran is

[Joe Getty]

making a, you know, maybe arguably a smart move. It's not a lawful move, but it arguably is a smart move. One of the most important shipping lanes in the world, 20% of the world's oil travels through there, and there ain't none traveling out of there. Except for Iran exporting to China. There ain't no. Ain't nobody getting through. And the war is a little bit different now because Trump could announce the war's over today, but that doesn't open the Strait of Hormuz back up. Right?

[Mike Lyons]

So Iran doesn't have many levers at all, but, man, they've got some serious leverage over the Straits of Hormuz. Let's discuss that and more with military analyst Mike Lyons. Mike, welcome. How are you?

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey, good morning, guys. Great to be back.

[Joe Getty]

I'm confused as to why we can't take out their ability to shoot at these ships. Five ships hit yesterday. Why can't we take that out?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, it's a couple things. It's not just the ships. It's artillery batteries that are along the coastline. So think of this as like, three ways that they could attack. They could attack close in from the coastline shores there because the Strait of Hormuz is very narrow and it's well within artillery range and rocket range, and they could swarm that way. They can also use ballistic missiles that come from far away that might be able to shoot down or so, but that still remains a threat. And then the last threat is this ace asymmetrical threat from the IRGC with small boats and with mines. Well, I don't think mines work in both directions, so I don't think you're going to see a lot more of those. But, like small ships and small drone swarms that can impact the safety of those ships. Trying to get through the straits. And that that point that was made by that individual there was very right. No matter how much the President can promise insurance and promise money, if those ship carriers don't feel safe going through, they're not going to go through it.

[Mike Lyons]

You've partially answered this question by your description of the situation. But what would the extent of military devastation have to be to eliminate their ability to choke off the Straits?

[Jack Armstrong]

We have to bring 12 to 14 Arleigh Burke class carriers into that part of the world and just do nothing but bombs away and make sure that anything within a certain strip is decimated, let's say.

[Mike Lyons]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because there can't be any military capabilities from the close end battle. So that's if you were taking care of it, you would take care of that first. Always being watchful of the asymmetric threat because that's how the coal was attacked back in the late 90s. It was attacked by one of those small speedboats that blew a hole in the side of it. So I think that's the order of target list is what they're going to go for. They're going to try to, they're going to try to take out all these military targets along the coastline there and do you know, Desert Storm type, go after it for a week at a time knowing full well that they have the ballistic missile threat somewhat as a standoff and then always keeping their eye on the asymmetrical threat.

[Mike Lyons]

And can that be done from the sky or is it going to require infantry?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, we're not there with infantry yet. I think when we put troops on the ground there, we won't see large formations. They're not going to see the first Armored Division, but I think you'll see JSOC and Special Ops, Army Rangers eventually getting to the nuclear facilities. There's about a half a ton of that material that has to come out of Iran. Somehow the IAE knows it's there. And they said 60% enriched uranium and enough to make 11 bombs. Okay, so someone's gotta go get that. That's gonna take, you know, troops on the ground to go do that. So whether or not that happens during the conflict or whether or not it happens after the conflict remains to be seen.

[Joe Getty]

Well, just in general, we're 13 days in. How do you think things are going?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I think we're continuing to attrit their military assets. I listened closely to the chairman on Monday when he said we've degraded them significantly to 90% but we haven't destroyed them as the president said and 90% of 10,000 ballistic missiles is pretty good but it still leaves them about 1,000 to go and so they only have to get a couple through and the one offs are what's getting us right now. It's a war of attritions coming from the air. We figured out arrows, archers thing. I think we've, we've got that line down now. Now the issue is keeping the straits open. That's going to be a much more difficult military mission.

[Mike Lyons]

How optimistic are you that we can get that done at all?

[Jack Armstrong]

I think we can get it done. The question is how well we can get it done with not absorbing casualties with the oil markets remaining calm. You know the President speaks really to the stock market and to the oil traders who, who frankly are using this as an opportunity to price go mean let's, let's face it there's, there's still plenty of oil out there in containers. No one is short of oil just yet. I mean there's reserves that are, that are in the world has so this is a lot of much to do still about nothing. But this is how the market works and this is how people can take profits and things like that. I talk to folks that drill for oil in the Permian basin frankly and they're all excited because this is what happens as the price goes up. But, but again we just have to do continue to go. I still think the President's not stopping anytime soon and the military targets are what they are. There's still plenty, plenty targets to hit there in Iran.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, that's what I was going to ask. So we between us and Israel we've hit 10,000 targets or something like that. That seems like an awful lot. I mean are there practically endless targets or how does this work?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well there are, I mean again when you hit a target the first time it gets a certain percentage of degradation to it and until four or five or six times when you can completely call it destroyed, I mean that's, you know that's really what it comes down to where you're hitting these targets sometimes for the first time it causes them to change. The element of surprise is gone. We're going back and getting one the second and third times. But there's deep tunnels that Iran has been Preparing this for 47 years just like they've been at war for us for 47 years. So there's a lot, there's a lot of targets to go.

[Mike Lyons]

Odd question but what are you hoping not to see? What are you worried about?

[Jack Armstrong]

I hate to say this, but a mass casualty kind of situation where they somehow get a rocket through it, hits a base and we have more casualties than we'd expect. I mean we go to war and we protect our force as best we can and we measure risk, but things can happen and commanders expect losses. It's one thing if that's seven knocks on the door right now, it's one thing. You know, I hate to say this, but if there's 20 or 30, I think that that would be a tragic situation that I know the military is doing everything they can to prevent.

[Joe Getty]

But news middle of the day yesterday was that Iran was on the verge of overwhelming Iron Dome there in Israel you never know what's true and what's not in the fog of war. But at some point, man, these, you know, multiple rockets, drones, missiles coming in, it's going to be hard to protect our bases in Israel and everything else, no question.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I can tell you this, we've taken everything off the shelf for this, just like we do in these conflicts. There's electronic, non kinetic type weapons being applied now to drones. I was at the Air Force Academy earlier last week. We have A10s going after drones. I mean there's a lot of creativity that always happens on the US side. Innovation is always our great strength. And there's a lot of things happening there that are trying to take down this, this threat. But, but the point is how much can we trip them to? All they have to do is get through one time for that, that kind of incident to happen. And that does change the calculus of how we go.

[Mike Lyons]

Out of curiosity, is a lot of this knowledge, or at least some of it coming from the Ukrainians?

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, we've had pilots with Ukraine, we've monitored what's going on there and you'd be surprised that some of it is. But, but, but I think a lot of it's just coming from us trying to develop and stay ahead of this because both them and Russia, Russia in particular has got tremendous drone technology. They've got them tethered, they're impervious to emp, that's electromagnetic pulse. They've done so many different things to make them battle hardened. There's a lot of spoofing taking place. What that means is they're projecting a certain signal of that they're out there, but they're actually not out there. That used to happen in World War II with blow up tanks and blow up equipment, but now it's happening on radar screens. And so again American ingenuity and innovation is taking place on the battlefield. We're trying to help the Ukrainians on that side, but Russia seems to have innovated that as well.

[Mike Lyons]

Interesting military analyst, Mike Lyons. Yeah, Mike, super interesting and informative. We sure appreciate the time. Thanks a million.

[Jack Armstrong]

Great guys. Thanks for having me.

[Mike Lyons]

So you've got fake drones appearing on radar screens just to further draw fire and attention. And man, if mankind was nearly as good at saving lives as they are at taking them, we'd be. I don't know what we'd be. We'd all be living in fantasy land, Utopia.

[Joe Getty]

So it's kind of driving me nuts, this theme of some of the. A lot. All the left and some of the right. Still no explanation for why we're even doing this. What? It seems obvious to me. They declared war on us 50 years ago. They've been trying to kill us forever.

[Mike Lyons]

Their capabilities are getting greater and greater and they're. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And they're trying to get a nuclear weapon and this is the weakest they've ever been. That's like the history of the world. A big enemy of yours all of a sudden is really weak. Good. Good. Time to take them out. Why is that complicated? I don't. I really don't understand why this is complicated though. Why now? Why are we doing. Because they're the weakest they've ever been. I just, I. It doesn't seem complicated to me, but I was going to make another point.

[Mike Lyons]

But right after this rhetorical philosophical question for you, me, everybody listening. What percentage of folks out there are actually truth seekers as opposed to just trying to move the needle or make a point?

[Joe Getty]

Wow, that's. That's funny actually.

[Mike Lyons]

Trying to understand what's happening.

[Joe Getty]

I can't think any. That's my. That's all want to do is know what's actually going on.

[Mike Lyons]

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[Joe Getty]

Wolf, I won't belabor at this because we're going to be at this war for a while and we'll have plenty of time to talk about it. But it reminds me of like back in the Al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden days, like he declared war on us back in the 90s. You don't get to pretend that there's not a war going on if the other side is at war with you. And it just seems nuts to me. But. But we did. So we talked last hour about the author Salman Rushdie. When the fatwa and all that and all the people killed and everything like that. And a lot of the world just pretended like that. That's not a problem. We don't have to worry about that. My clients just brought up the USS Cold. This has always driven me crazy. We had one of our warships attacked, bunch of people died. That was In October of 2000, a month before presidential election. Never came up. Wasn't part of the debates, wasn't part of the election. Was nothing. We just pretended like we weren't at war by with Iran and we got attacked. Or fundamentalist Islam. We just pretend it wasn't true.

[Mike Lyons]

There was a belief that it was over there and our worship was over there. But if we're over here, it has nothing to do with our lives.

[Joe Getty]

How crazy is that?

[Mike Lyons]

Well, it's. It's innocent. It's naive, I'd say.

[Joe Getty]

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[Mike Lyons]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Mike Lyons]

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[Joe Getty]

Multiple U.S. and California law enforcement and intelligence officials told CBS News there is no known credible specific threat underpinning that alert, no information giving on the time, source, method or target of any such attack. This information, shared last week with local law enforcement by the FBI's Los Angeles Division, stems from an apparent tip in early February that surfaced prior to the war with Iran about unmanned aerial vehicles off the coast of the US Homeland. Almost a month and a half ago this went out. Why did the story just break yesterday? Now I did put on a helmet and I had my head on a swivel all day long looking for Iranian drones.

[Mike Lyons]

Appreciate your war footing.

[Joe Getty]

I, you know, Joe said this earlier, I'm the same way. At no point did I have even the slightest concern about an Iranian during attack and my well being, not even the slightest.

[Mike Lyons]

A couple of things. Well, first of all, in spite of the fact that there's no credible specific blah, blah, blah. The utterly unprincipled congenital liar Governor of California Gavin Newsom spoke on that topic. 44 Michael We've been working collaboratively through the SOC, which we established right after

[Jack Armstrong]

the war began, the State Operations center, working with the Office of Emergency Service,

[Mike Lyons]

but also working locally to make sure we transmit any information that we have received and we're aware of that information

[Jack Armstrong]

and we transfer that information in real time to our local partners.

[Mike Lyons]

The important thing fell asleep halfway through that.

[Joe Getty]

The important thing is a visual. And leaders love when they get these opportunities. He was in suit and tie. Oh, Gavin in a tie, standing in front of an American flag. I mean it look exactly like a presidential address which he's trying to get into people's minds. Oh, he looks like a president. I can picture him being president.

[Mike Lyons]

So I had originally heard that it was a threat against the West Coast. Jack said California. I castigated him and accused him of abandoning our beloved listeners in both Washington state and Oregon. I sit corrected and apologize for my harsh words. Indeed, it was specific to California according to this FBI warning. You know, who knows how credible it is. Exactly. But I've been reading up on it and, and the Iranians and really any military of any sophistication these days has unmanned ships that can go a long damn way carrying unmanned drones that can be launched via a satellite signal from thousands of miles away. So the idea is they get drones on some sort of vessel off the coast of Cal Unicornia and if indeed the US Attacks Iran, I'm told we did. Ah, yes, we did. If indeed that happened, the Ayatollah. Well, okay, the next Ayatollah would say, yeah, hit them now. Bastards.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that would be a horrible.

[Mike Lyons]

That is not completely crazy.

[Joe Getty]

Well, the blocking off the Strait of Hormuz, good strategy. Attacking Los Angeles, bad strategy. Can you imagine the level of holy hell Trump would bring on Iran if they actually attacked California?

[Mike Lyons]

Right, right. Says one drone expert who Trump happened to praise on a different topic in July. Quote, these are long range, one way attack drones that are extremely capable and can be sent in swarms. You don't need a human anywhere near this. You can launch these things, these things over Starlink from a boat a thousand miles away. We'll see.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'm not, I'm not worried about it. I want to get to this.

[Mike Lyons]

I think it was probably one of those generalized. Hey, this is one of the things we're vulnerable to. Keep an eye on it. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Is probably the entirety of the thing. Yeah, yeah. I want to get to this a little bit later. We've talked about this every year. I still don't think enough people are aware of this. The, the Oscars are Sunday. Conan o' Brien's a host. He hasn't had a show in years. His podcast is hugely popular. Anyway, Washington Post story. Timothy Chalamet missed his opportunity for an Oscar. It's all about the campaigning that goes on and everything like that and how it's not actually about who's the best and all this different sort of stuff. And I just don't think enough people know that.

[Mike Lyons]

One more reason to hate the Oscars.

[Joe Getty]

Another California story or ignore them. Couple of guys speaking Hebrew get beaten down in the street by some Muslim radicals and it's not making the news for some reason. We got to tell you about that. Stay tuned.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Violent video shows the moment two Israeli American men were beaten outside of Augustine

[Mike Lyons]

restaurant in San Jose's Santana Row. We have two angles of the attack to show you. Eyewitnesses on scene say the attackers were

[Joe Getty]

speaking Farsi, a language in Iran.

[Mike Lyons]

It's not an accurate representation as a Persian man, not something I want to be looked at. I like to think we're very loving people in general.

[Joe Getty]

Keanu Kahrobai is Persian and videoed the attack. He says the men who beat the Jewish men said, quote, don't mess with Iran. Yeah, it's a pretty ugly video and you don't know that area. Santana. Ros San Jose. Very upscale, nice. You'd never expect any crime of any kind to ever happen. You got two Israeli dudes speaking Hebrew and three guys just apparently overheard him walking down the street and just went to beating on him. One guy knocked completely unconscious. Let's hear a little more of the news.

[Mike Lyons]

He's lucky he's alive.

[Joe Getty]

He is very lucky he's alive. And I want to get sidetracked by the people, whip their phones out. In the modern world, nobody lifts a hand to stop older men from being beaten in the street by young guys. Nobody even like, yells. You just get your phone out. What is that? Is it. I don't think history's always been that way. No.

[Mike Lyons]

No.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, for several reasons. Back to the news report. These men are talking on camera saying they didn't do anything to provoke the attack. They were only speaking Hebrew to each other.

[Mike Lyons]

If we were antagonizing them or doing

[Joe Getty]

anything bad, I would understand.

[Mike Lyons]

But there was nothing of this kind. No talking, no exchanging words, no

[Joe Getty]

nothing.

[Mike Lyons]

Literally nothing. And it went south so bad.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's what made me feel like it was.

[Mike Lyons]

Obviously it was a very anti Semitic act.

[Joe Getty]

And the rest of the report is that anti Semitic attacks across the country are on the rise, as we all know, and. And the Jewish community wants to alert everyone. And yeah, I can understand why. Some more of the details on this, which are, again, just freaking horrifying. The two Israeli men say they were jumped by three attackers. Had no interaction with them at all. Like, not a word.

[Mike Lyons]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

They just were like, all of a sudden under attack on the street. The victim's longtime friends from Haifa, Israel, and they're just standing there speaking Hebrew. Then. I love this. The San Jose Police Department is investigating as a possible hate crime.

[Mike Lyons]

I wonder. I wonder.

[Joe Getty]

The whole hate crime thing, I think is stupid, but if you're gonna have those laws, this is clearly it.

[Mike Lyons]

And Katie, I don't know if you're available, but you told us earlier that the big news service that we in many newsrooms use still doesn't. Isn't covering the story at all. Not coast news services.

[Joe Getty]

It's a West coast news service that

[Mike Lyons]

has a specific BAS area section and it is nowhere.

[Joe Getty]

How in the hell is that possible? I don't know. I had to go to other sources

[Mike Lyons]

to find the actual story.

[Joe Getty]

There's nothing in there. And they've got. Oh, they've got audio on all the, you know, Google News and all this stuff. Not a peep about this.

[Mike Lyons]

It's the radical left that runs media now. And the Red Green Alliance. You don't dare criticize fundamentalist Islam because they're against the US and so am I, says the proud lefty.

[Joe Getty]

If you had had somebody shouting at Muslims about their faith, it would be a story. It'd be a national story. Beating down, actually physically beating down. Luckily they weren't killed. The one guy knocked completely unconscious. It's a tough video to watch. He's on the, he's on the sidewalk and the guy's just wailing on him. Yeah, and, and doesn't make the news. I mean, how do you explain this?

[Mike Lyons]

Well, if, for instance, somebody's demonstrating against Zoran Mamdani, a jerk or not, and they get firebombed, the news will do their best to cover it up actively, as we heard on CNN. In fact, give me 80 Michael clip

[Jack Armstrong]

82 Republicans say Muslims don't belong here

[Joe Getty]

after an attempted terror attack against New

[Jack Armstrong]

York's Mayor Zoran Mamdani.

[Mike Lyons]

And the House Speaker Mike Johnson says

[Jack Armstrong]

nothing really to condemn those comments.

[Mike Lyons]

And after the flap over that quote, you got 81.

[Joe Getty]

Supposedly some of these comments are as a result of the attempt against Mayor Mandani in New York, who was raised Muslim, was he not himself. So they're being anti Muslim to def. And they're finally defending Mandani over something. To be clear, the attack wasn't on Mayor Mamdani. It was on his house.

[Mike Lyons]

It was attacking protesters, people protesting right by his house. It wasn't.

[Joe Getty]

She seems to be actually just completely uninformed on the story. Like she took the. Well, what she did was she took the word of the mainstream media, which told her that some anti Muslim people showed up with bombs. That's because that's the way it was portrayed. And she just went with it, not knowing that that's the opposite of what happened. The opposite of what happened.

[Mike Lyons]

Do not ever read about Nazi Germany again and wonder how 1936 or Kristen Lock Hampton, the Ohio executive director of CARE, that's the council on American Islamic Relations. Khalid Torani said he's talking about how Israel has the largest human skin bank in the world. They were skinning the people of Gaza. Jeremy Corbyn of British Politics reporting that the IDF beheaded and cut off the hands of or cut open the abdomens of their victims. And as Nelly Bolton writes in the Free Press, all right, the Jews are demons who eat babies. We get it, Jerry. UK's Green Party putting forward a new motion to declare Israel's existence as a nation racist. No more two state solution, just the elimination of Israel. Here's an investigative editor at the American Prospect, a mainstream progressive publication, founding staffer at the popular feminist site Jezebel, blah, blah, blah. She explains why, what would be the only way Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro could be considered a presidential frontrunner when he admits Israel is a brainwashed, psychopathic death cult that might need to be nuked to save the human race. The key phrase is the idea of mass slaughter to save the human race. Killing off this one people might just save the whole world. Or here's Anna Kasparian, another influential progressive commentator, elegantly summarizing the mood of the moment. Hey, bitch, the goyim are waking the F up. Deal with it. Meaning non Jews. There are a bunch more examples.

[Joe Getty]

So now I am a guy.

[Mike Lyons]

Mamdani, by the way, one more, one more note. Mamdani dined two days ago with an anti Israel radical cleric whose group regularly calls for death to America, death to the Jews, and death to Israel. Mamdani had dinner with the guy.

[Joe Getty]

Now, while I am a guy that pushed his way through Anne Frank's bedroom hurriedly because I really needed to go to the bathroom. I am horrified at the news coverage of these stories and like you said about how, you know, the rise of this in Germany, I never could understand it my whole life. It just never made sense to me. The little.

[Mike Lyons]

Completely irrational to blame the Jews for all that stuff. It's ridiculous.

[Joe Getty]

Open like smashing the windows of businesses of the Jews or whatever like that. And nobody's saying anything about it. It. And same with the Cultural Revolution in China. I've always been like, how did that. How could that possibly happen? Now all that stuff is happening here. It's wild to live through.

[Mike Lyons]

There's a certain percentage of humankind, and it's bigger than I'd hoped that can be persuaded of something and then motivated to do terrible things. It's like one of my. One of the reasons I've always been so hardcore about the radical gender theory thing. And you will not make me call a man a woman ever, ever, ever. And it's Voltaire's quote that those who can make you recite absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Once you surrender your moral compass and your personal grasp of reality to somebody else and you fall in line and obey them to do something that you know to be wrong or, or not based in reality or whatever you have, you have given up your anchor to reality. You don't want to do that. Yeah, read about the Cultural Revolution in China if you're tired about the whole Nazi thing. It's kind of well worn turf but you can convince human beings to do about anything including drag their own parents out into the street and beat them to death.

[Joe Getty]

I wish we could run an experiment in a parallel universe where two Jews attack a couple of Muslim women who are wearing the beekeeper outfit it and see what kind of news coverage that gets as opposed to this story which is getting zero coverage. I was shocked that I didn't hear about it until this morning. It happened 3:30 Sunday afternoon or whatever. I was shocked that I hadn't heard about it. I mean it's like 60 miles from my house but it's because the news isn't covering it.

[Mike Lyons]

If it had merely been guys who wanted a purse or two who dragged diners out into the street and beat them near to death in San Jose, that'd be a huge story. But no, because, oh, this is uncomfortable. This sounds like I'm on Trump's side of this. I, we're not even going to report it. Don't worry about it. These people are liars. Oh my God.

[Joe Getty]

Terrible video to watch and just frightening because imagine the level of hatred you would have to, have to do that to just beat a person down and then keep beating them because you, you don't like their religion.

[Mike Lyons]

Well yeah, and as the Ayatollah said when he, when Salman Rushdie apologized for the satanic verses, the Ayatollah said he could become the most pious man on earth. But every Muslim must spend their entire life, their net worth, everything, everything it takes to send this man to hell. Those guys were just his boys.

[Joe Getty]

Wait, did they catch these guys? Somehow I missed that part of the story. Are these guys under arrest or in custody? Katie, do we know that? I saw that they were not under arrest and they were still trying to identify him. But I'll, I'll dig and see if there's any under arrest.

[Mike Lyons]

I haven't the local news in San Jose, some TV news stations were running the video but blurred out the attackers faces as well as the, the victims and they claimed it was while the, the investigation was ongoing. Not to upset the police investigation.

[Joe Getty]

When have you ever seen that happen before? I've seen all kinds of dust ups with people fighting at a convenience store or whatever the hell it is.

[Mike Lyons]

Don't you show the faces to help the police investigation or is that just. Well I guarantee it's the leftists in the media in the Bay Area and if I'm wrong, tell me you know how to reach me. The leftists in the Bay Area thinking, oh I'm afraid of an anti Muslim backlash. Let's not even show the faces.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. That's a horrifying story. Yeah. The.

[Mike Lyons]

The Internet in every aspect.

[Joe Getty]

The Internet's done their job and figured out who these guys are, but it looks like they haven't been apprehended yet, man. And again, if it can happen there, it can happen anywhere.

[Mike Lyons]

That's the whole point. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

All right.

[Mike Lyons]

Yeah. The Ayatollah, for instance, or, you know, you interpret the Quran the way many people do. They don't differentiate. But only in bad neighborhoods.

[Joe Getty]

No.

[Mike Lyons]

Kill the infidels.

[Joe Getty]

Well, the fact that you can think you can get away with it in a neighborhood like that, that's what.

[Mike Lyons]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

That's what's so horrifying.

[Mike Lyons]

I think it's the level of hatred. Right. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Oscars are Sunday night. Some interesting stuff about the way the Oscars work. Why we ever paid attention to it is quite amazing. Stay tuned. Armstrong and Getty. A man known to millions of Taylor Swift fans as the future Mr. Swift and millions of NFL fans as the great Travis Kelsey. He is returning for another season with the Chiefs, his 14th. And Kelsey told the Pat McAfee show that after watching Swift's work ethic and with her support, he felt inspired by her to keep playing. Interesting Taylor Swift, who says in Life of a Showgirl, I'm married to the hustle. Maybe he saw her working constantly and thought, I might as well keep working because it ain't like she's available to do much. She works all the time. So the Oscars are Sunday night. And so I was reading a couple of different articles about the Oscars because I'm kind of interested in a couple of the movies, a couple of them I've seen. Gonna watch the ping pong movie with Timothy Chalamet this weekend with my boys. That looks pretty entertaining. The main thing, though, I take away from reading these articles is y' all take movies way too seriously. It just. It's just like, it's just to kill a couple of hours. Hopefully somewhat entertained. The end. It's nothing beyond that for me and never really ever has been. I just. I do not put that much thought into it. I don't think it's transformational or important or like really move society in any direction. I don't think any of those things are true.

[Mike Lyons]

Correct.

[Joe Getty]

So lighten up. Anyway, I thought this was kind of interesting. I was reading some of them about the campaigning and apparently Michael Be Jordan, the actor who's in Sinners, which looks really good. And I Want to see which is going to win a ton of Oscars. Some probably Sunday night is going to win over Timothee Chalamet, who's playing in the ping pong movie because his speech at one of the last award shows was so heartfelt and well received that that will put him over the top of the Oscars. So because your speech was so heartfelt, you're going to win the Oscar. That's a good way to decide who's the best actor. Of course, the idea of picking a best actor incomplete. The only way it would make any sense is if you all played the same role in the same movie and we decided who did it best. Other than that, it makes no sense whatsoever.

[Mike Lyons]

Yeah, the whole thing's idiotic, obviously, but.

[Joe Getty]

But explaining how Timothy Chalamet, all the voters regret that he didn't win last year for his Bob Dylan portrayal, which I don't remember who won, but he definitely should have won one. It was amazing. But they talk about how for whatever reason, Oscars go to young women and old men almost entirely throughout history. The Academy swoons for the vision of a beautiful young woman who came out of nowhere. Gwyneth Paltrow at 26, Grace Kelly at 25, Audrey Hen at 24, Jennifer Lawrence at 22. It goes on and on. No man has ever won an Oscar before age 30. You got loads of early 20s females. Most men win when they're in like mid-50s, 60s, are often even older after a lifetime of roles. So they like the old man, you know, who's. Who's paid his dues and had lots of great roles. And then they like the young fresh face girl out of nowhere who's hot

[Mike Lyons]

and can act a little. Yes. Yeah, I don't have. I don't care about the Oscars. I mean, I truly don't. And I don't have a lot of time to watch movies. The only way I'm going to watch a movie is if they can combine the Bob Dylan movie, Tim Shalam's Bob Dylan movie with the ping pong movie. So it's Bob Dylan playing ping pong. I would watch it. What is it?

[Joe Getty]

11, 8 or 8. 11.

[Mike Lyons]

I can never remember.

[Joe Getty]

Which one do you do first? The guy. 7. Hey, hit the net. No, it didn't.

[Mike Lyons]

Yeah, it did.

[Joe Getty]

It hit the net. It's a brilliant idea.

[Mike Lyons]

It is the score. It is a changing. You get it?

[Joe Getty]

You know who would find that humorous? Timothy Chalamet. Based on all the interviews I've seen

[Mike Lyons]

scene and probably Bob Dylan.

[Joe Getty]

He's Been probably Bob Dylan. Exactly. Ping pong movie looks kind of entertaining. So I don't know, maybe I'll check it out.

[Mike Lyons]

Bob Dylan may be the all time champion of. My God, would you stop taking me so seriously? Right. I'm a guitar player. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

The best thing to look forward to to want to hate. Like what is that called when you, when you love hate, you hate something. You enjoy hating something. There's a name for that.

[Mike Lyons]

I don't know. But I do rage hate or rage

[Joe Getty]

love or whatever it is. Sean Penn, I'll bet is going to win the Oscar because his performance in that whatever that movie is is pretty amazing. And he's going to win and he's going to give some over the top annoying political speech that'll make you want to kill him. Almost guaranteed. So we'll be playing that and hating on it on Monday morning probably so. Absolutely hating on. I'll bet Conan's funny. I predict Conan will be funny.

[Mike Lyons]

Well, I will tell you this though.

[Joe Getty]

If.

[Mike Lyons]

If you had not brought up the Oscars, I would have no idea what's happening this weekend. No idea.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's the other thing. No, no, that's the other thing from reading these articles is all these people writing these articles. No. Not only think motion pictures are film as they call it is so important to society is that people still give a crap. They actually think people are like really hanging on the. On this.

[Mike Lyons]

Oh, that's sad.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sorry to hear that.

[Joe Getty]

It is kind of with all the entertainment options out there.

[Mike Lyons]

Speaking of entertainment options, do I understand correctly? We are obligated to do yet another hour of fascinating content? Checking the contract. Yes indeed. If you can't stick around or you don't get the next hour, grab it via podcast, Armstrong and get you on demand. You ought to subscribe. It's very easy. Downloads automatically.

[Joe Getty]

Cool. Yeah. So Armstrong and Yeti on demand and we got a good hour for. The supreme leader has spoken. We'll get into that.

[Jack Armstrong]

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