When You Touch Grass I Feel Seen!

Summary

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Episode: When You Touch Grass I Feel Seen!
Date: October 9, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

This episode zeroes in on the spectacular political meltdown of California gubernatorial candidate Katie Porter, sparked by a pair of viral videos exposing her temperament and alleged misconduct. Armstrong and Getty dissect Porter's imploding campaign, her history of abusive behavior, and the systemic problems of one-party political states. The discussion shifts midway to major global news, breaking down President Trump’s dramatic Middle East peace deal, the complexities of post-war Gaza, and China’s tightening grip over critical minerals. The conversation is peppered with the show's signature irreverence, banter, and biting humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Katie Porter's Political Meltdown

[00:16–11:47, 34:40–39:48]

• The Viral Videos:
  • Porter's campaign is in crisis after two viral clips show her losing composure: one in a contentious interview with repeated follow-up questions ([00:16–01:45]), and another where she launches into a profanity-laden tirade at an aide on video ([02:02–03:07]).
• Host Critique & Analysis:
  • Armstrong and Getty call Porter an "awful human being," referencing her outbursts, abusive history towards staff and family, and publicly documented incidents (including allegedly dumping hot potatoes on her husband) ([04:11–04:50]).
  • "She seems like a horrible human being." – Jack Armstrong [03:04]
  • Discussion about one-party states facilitating such problematic candidates ("this is the kind of monster you get because there’s nobody to run against them" [03:45]).
  • Staff turnover under Porter was reportedly 65% annually, quadruple the norm ([07:02]).
• Personal & Political Failings:
  • Porter's alleged mistreatment of her husband and staff (including court-mandated anger counseling) is recounted with incredulity ([04:11–08:32]).
  • "She has thoroughly done the work of being a B and deserves the C." – Joe Getty [01:57]
• Porter’s Response:
  • Her public statement attempts damage control: "I have sought to be more intentional in showing gratitude to my staff for their important work." [10:44]
• Systemic Enablers:
  • The hosts highlight the influence of public sector unions in California’s political pipeline as a key to Porter's viability despite these outbursts ([09:10–09:32]).
• Speculation on Her Political Future:
  • The hosts believe Porter's career is likely over but mockingly state it would be great for their show if she won:
    • "I'm surprised that she hasn't attempted to fix it yet... Peace in the Middle East hasn't bumped it off the front page today." – Jack Armstrong [39:11]

2. Humor, Banter & Cultural Commentary

• Running jokes about AI-generated videos of Porter physically attacking reporters ([37:10–37:41]), her “comeback” being a train wreck ([38:58–39:10]), and mock-insincere apologies.
• Satire on buzzwords like “intentionality” and “touching grass” ([11:13–11:34]):
  • "When you intentionally—when you touch grass, I feel seen." – Jack Armstrong [11:22]

3. Major Political & Global Events

American & International Politics

[11:47–31:12; 32:13–34:02]

• Middle East Peace Deal:

  • News breaks of a historic peace deal seemingly brokered by President Trump resulting in the imminent release of hostages and realignment of Arab states against Hamas ([20:21–23:56]).
  • "Trump got all these Arab countries to be anti-Hamas enough to—for Hamas to feel like, man, we got no friends right now." – Jack Armstrong [21:50]
  • The hosts stress the centrality of military force in moving toward peace, contrasting it with more naïve “war never solved anything” beliefs ([23:18–23:56]).
  • "It was the application of force—as it always is—that brings people to the peace table." – Joe Getty [23:19]

• On-the-Ground Sentiment in Gaza:

  • Reports from Gazans and Palestinians expressing hatred for both Israel and Hamas, reflecting a population exhausted and embittered from years of violence ([28:13–29:19]).

• Future of Gaza:

  • Discussion of who will govern Gaza after Hamas’s ouster, referencing Michael Oren and a civilian administration backed by a peacekeeping force as part of Trump’s 20-pt plan ([26:11–27:28, 32:57–34:02]).

• China’s Strategic Moves:

  • China restricts exports of crucial minerals for U.S. high-tech, exposing American dependency ([15:39–16:51]).
  • Critique of American complacency:
    • "It's being asleep at the national security switch." – Joe Getty [16:36]

Notable Political Commentary

• Praise for Trump’s international leverage: "Trump is more popular than their own prime minister in Israel and... they trust him. So it's quite the deal." – Jack Armstrong [32:13]
• John Halperin and Matt Taibbi’s reporting on Porter's temperament are discussed at length, with Taibbi’s description of her "nuclear rage" and "scrupulously cataloging all the mistakes the vast flawed universe of other people make" ([04:50–06:12]).

4. U.S. Sports & Culture

• Amusing aside about Major League Baseball payroll disparities and whether high team spending ruins the competitive balance ([16:51–19:12]).
• Cultural tidbits: The anniversary of the microwave oven; Dolly Parton death rumors quickly debunked by Dolly herself ([12:50–13:56, 36:16–37:10]).
• New social trends: "Lavender marriages"—couples where one spouse is gay and the other is straight ([13:44–14:35]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On one-party states and character:
  "As we have pointed out in one party states, this is the kind of monster you get because there’s nobody to run against them." – Jack Armstrong [03:45]

• On Porter's temperament:
  "She has thoroughly done the work of being a B and deserves the C." – Joe Getty [01:57]

• On military force and peace:
  "It was the application of force—as it always is—that brings people to the peace table." – Joe Getty [23:19]

• Buzzwords & Culture:
  "When you intentionally—when you touch grass, I feel seen." – Jack Armstrong [11:22]

• On progressive apologies:
  "I have sought to be more intentional in showing gratitude to my staff for their important work." – Katie Porter (per Halperin) [10:44]

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• Katie Porter campaign meltdown & viral videos: [00:16–11:47], [34:40–39:48]
• Taibbi/Porter psychology & one-party state critique: [04:11–08:32]
• Buzzwords, intentionality & “touch grass” humor: [11:13–11:34]
• China’s mineral policy & US dependency: [15:39–16:51]
• MLB payroll discussion: [16:51–19:12]
• Middle East peace deal explained & global reactions: [20:21–27:28]
• On-the-ground reporting from Gaza: [27:42–29:19]
• Future of Gaza and administration plan: [32:57–34:02]
• Porter’s attempted recovery & political futures: [34:40–39:48]

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Episode Tone & Language

True to Armstrong & Getty’s irreverent, acerbic tone, the episode mixes hard-hitting political analysis with relentless mockery and gallows humor. They lean into hyperbole (“I hate this woman”), but always circle key issues with fact-based critiques, especially regarding political accountability and international affairs.

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This summary highlights the essential themes, tone, and standout moments from the episode, delivering a concise but thorough guide for listeners and non-listeners alike.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

This is an iHeart podcast broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at.

[Joe Getty]

The George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

And now here's Armstrong and Getty. What do you say to the 40% of California voters who you'll need in order to win who voted for Trump? How would I need them in order to win?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, unless you think you're going to.

[Joe Getty]

Get 60% of the vote. You think you'll get 60% all everybody who did not vote for Trump will vote for you. That's what you're in a general election. Yes. You know, she's the awful human being who is Katie Porter, California politician, would be governor of the biggest state in the union, is an awful person. But that was kind of an odd question.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I don't understand that question at all. It doesn't make any sense to. But the viral video that has spread around America politically and I've seen it in all kinds of national newscasts coming out of California where we are, this woman who was odds on favorite maybe to be next governor of California has completely blown up her campaign by not handling that well. Let's play a little bit of how that that went.

[Joe Getty]

I'm going to try to win every vote I can. And what I'm saying to you is that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, to those voters.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, so, so you, I don't want to keep doing this. I'm going to call it. Thank you. You're not gonna do the interview with us? Nope, not like this, I'm not. Not with seven follow ups to every single question you ask.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it goes on. She's A, I called her a B. Joe says she has graduated from a B to a C. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

She'S done the work. Oh, she has thoroughly done the work of being a B and deserves the C. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

With this new clip. So how do we set this up? They're, they're doing a little video in the kitchen or something.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, she's doing a video with Jennifer Granholm, the former Secretary of Education, where they're just reading the yay, yay, rah rah, Joe Biden has a wonderful presidency thing and, and she says something that's blatantly untrue about electric vehicles. I mean, just like wildly inaccurate. And that was the conversation about how EVs are so clearly the future and everybody loves them and this is such an important we're going to end climate change. It's just obnoxious. But then she says something wildly inaccurate about EVs and her aide says, hey, Whoa, whoa. It's actually and. And. And comes into the shot and the state could lose.

[Jack Armstrong]

Get out of my shot.

[Joe Getty]

I wanted to tell you that that's actually incorrect. It's not that it's electric vehicles. It's that if we don't meet the.

Commitments under the Paris climate report.

Okay, it does. Okay. You also were in my shot before that. Stay out of my shot.

[Jack Armstrong]

God, she seems like a horrible human being.

[Joe Getty]

It's a shame we had to bleep all of that out because it is quite the obscenity soaked tirade for A, correcting her and B, getting in her shot, which of course they just then pick up because you can edit video and they just continue on.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, so in the wide world of news today, that's Mark Halpern's outfit. Katie Porter's California gubernatorial campaign on the ropes after two viral videos reveal the temperament she has always put on vivid display behind the scenes. Yes, that's a reporting of people who know of her.

[Joe Getty]

That's well said.

[Jack Armstrong]

As we have pointed out in one party states, this is the kind of monster you get because there's nobody to run against them. I mean, you frighten off people in your own party by being such an a hole and there's the other party doesn't have a chance of beating you and you end up with these kind of people. She's clearly a horrible human being and there's plenty of other people that could be doing that job that aren't horrible human beings. So get her the freak out.

[Joe Getty]

You know, part of me pities her because she's obviously boiling with anger, obviously, and can barely suppress it, but she should not be in power. The great Matt Taibi wrote the following. And first of all, he apologizes. He's been sick and in a funk for days. And then he says, but then I saw Lori Watts CBS interview with California gubernatorial candidate Katie Porter and finally laughed, which in turn led to reading court filings with quotes like, she then took a ceramic bowl of steaming hot potatoes and dumped it on my head. And also her screaming at her husband, are you so effing stupid you can't make jello? Among other things.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God, that poor guy who was married to her.

[Joe Getty]

She went to, I believe it was court mandated anger counseling because of assaulting her husband. And then Taibi says only a terrible person would watch. Oh, I'm sorry, that's a different thing. He says, I then stayed up late last night reading her 2023 memoir. I swear, politics is messier than my minivan. Which is a great title anyway. He says the book is less funny, but still fascinating as a field guide to a newly prevalent personality type. This is the person who simmers nuclear rage while scrupulously cataloging all of the mistakes the vast flawed universe of other people make in delaying his or her obviously deserves success. As I'm about to record America this week, one of the reasons I'm proud to be an American is that ours is a country where entertainingly crazy people get to thrive. Porter's best strategic move is to embrace the viral craze created by the Watts exchange and go full DNC, Mothra from here, etc. But that. That whole simmering with nuclear rage and cataloging all of the flaws of anybody who stands in her way, that reminds me so much of the Kamala Harris book. Except Kamala Harris is like high on three glasses of chardonnay and she doesn't have that Katie Porter rage. No.

[Jack Armstrong]

Get out of my shot. No. Kamala Harris is dumb. She's not a B or a C. That's a different thing. This Katie Porter, I don't like Kamala Harris's politics, and I don't think she's real smart. I hate this woman. This. The fact that this Katie Porter woman had any power to do anything is horrifying to me. And the fact that she was that close to becoming governor of California. Now, we did, in our pre show meeting, come to the realization that the best thing for the show would be if she did get elected governor. So if we want to prioritize the show over, you know, human beings in the biggest state of America, and I.

[Joe Getty]

Do, yes, I've already donated the max to her campaign.

[Jack Armstrong]

Her being governor would be fantastic, but it's just terrible that anybody with that temperament could rise up through the ranks of anything.

[Joe Getty]

And she's well known as a monster behind the scenes in politics. Her staff turnover was 65% per year, I believe.

[Jack Armstrong]

Got him.

[Joe Getty]

Which is quadruple the normal rate.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wouldn't last a day with someone like that. I don't care what it would do for my career. F you.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

One party state. So she took Gavin Newsome and Katie Porter.

[Jack Armstrong]

So she took a scalding hot bowl of mashed potatoes and dumped them on her husband's head.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Yeah, man.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a pretty brutal assault.

[Joe Getty]

Screaming. Are you so effing stupid you can't make jello at your spouse? F you. Oh, I'm out that day.

[Jack Armstrong]

Please.

[Joe Getty]

This guy's gotta have. You know, granted, he got out. God Bless him. He had to have something like Stockholm syndrome where he was terrified of angering her lest, you know, he feel the brunt of her verbal and or physical attacks.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, who knows what the marriage was? I don't know if they had kids and, you know, or he could have been a climber where he realized she was a ticket to, you know, maybe she's going to be governor someday and I get to be. Or they got kids, you never know.

[Joe Getty]

But they have a daughter. I know because she likes to tout single mothers like me. Oh, yes, you're a single mother because you're a monster and you drove your husband away.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I got a million dollar bill. I bet on the fact that you've talked to your kid the same way. Impossible that you haven't. Oh, you're a horrible, horrible human being.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Her career's over. I think there's no way she comes back from this, is there?

[Joe Getty]

Katie Porter, do humanity a favor. Pack some provisions in one of those water filter things and hike out into the wilderness and leave the rest of humanity alone for the rest of your days. We all thank you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hike out into the wilderness, Right.

[Joe Getty]

Become a hermit.

[Jack Armstrong]

The only way she's still viable. And this is disgusting. It's like you said yesterday, if for some reason she's the choice of like the teachers union and the other big unions, then. Then they could propel her to the governor's house.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, if she makes a convincing enough case. Because this is how California politics works and it's. It's crazy. Nobody in the national media ever writes about this. Either they don't know it or I don't know. But if she gets the endorsement of the powerful public employee unions and the quasi public employee unions like the nurses and stuff like that, and the trial attorney, she will be the next governor of California.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, maker. Governor. Maker. Governor.

[Joe Getty]

Unions.

[Jack Armstrong]

That'd be so entertaining for the show. We would love that.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Hadn'T heard this so in the little piece in Mark Halperin's news story today, he said this is an all time classic. Her quote in response to the political video going viral where she says f you know, get out of my effing shot. Yeah, I have sought to be more intentional in showing gratitude to my staff for their important work. That was her quote. I have sought to be more intentional in showing gratitude to my staff for their important work.

[Joe Getty]

That's such a great buzzword these days. Intentionally you've got to be more intentional about everything you do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, is it? I didn't know.

[Joe Getty]

Got to be present and be intentional and touch grass while you're being present.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh man. And when you intentionally. When you touch grass, I feel seen. So that is fantastic.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I'm so glad to hear that. I am intentionally listening to you right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now and I feel so seen.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, so good.

[Jack Armstrong]

We have got a little more on the big peace deal that's the biggest story in the world today. Among a lot of a whole bunch of other things on the ways to stay here. Get out of my shot.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Today was the 80th anniversary of the first patent for the microwave.

[Joe Getty]

To celebrate, they had a cake that was scorching hot on the outside and ice cold in the middle.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I'm not sure microwave technology has improved much since the first one we used in 1977, roughly. In my house when I was a kid.

[Joe Getty]

Less likely to kill you if you have a pacemaker, as I understand it. But yeah, Yeah, I just. I had that exact experience last night. If. If it's something that can be stirred, you obviously have to stir it, you know, part of the way through. But if it's not. If it's like a piece of chicken.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, you're gonna have a cold bite.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then you're gonna have a bite that burns the top of your tongue, Right?

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. Coming up, Seattle's mayor saying repeat offenders who hurt people and commit crimes over and over and over again are probably just misunderstood. And putting him in jail wouldn't help.

[Jack Armstrong]

No.

[Joe Getty]

Unbelievable. The insanity of progressivism on display. Plus this story. He's gay, she's straight, and they're happily married.

[Jack Armstrong]

He's gay, so he likes other dudes. She's straight, she likes guys, and they're happily married. Okay.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. It's a new trend, Jack. The lavender marriage, they call it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, really? Okay. This isn't just a couple. You're gonna tell us about it. It's a trend, the lavender marriage.

[Joe Getty]

Or so the journalists are trying to make you believe.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know anybody like that. Not okay. I came across the term lavender marriage the other day. Somewhere somebody made a joke and that was in it. And I thought, I need to Google that because I don't know what that is, but. All right, cool. I'm glad I'm now up to speed on what lavender marriages are.

[Joe Getty]

No, no, no. Clear that out of your head. Make room for something that matters.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just saw a video of Gazans chanting trump, Trump. Trump. And Israelis chanting, Trump, Trump. Trump.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

How much does he love that? 1, 2. How amazing is that? Anyway, we'll get into the Middle east peace process here in just a little bit. It's something else that is not the biggest story in the world. According to the Wide World of News newsletter. Today, the biggest story in the world long term is this. It comes out of the Wall Street Journal. China tightened its control over critical minerals used to make high tech products including electric vehicles and jet fighters. Yesterday, their export Applications for products with military uses won't be approved, the ministry said, adding that the licenses related to semiconductors or artificial intelligence development, much of it that they have the best in the world and that we need for our jet fighters and AI stuff and electric cars. They're saying now we ain't giving them to you at all.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. In a related story, they China is by far by multiples, the biggest consumer of American soybeans other than America, and they've ordered none. Yeah, we'll get back to you. We might order some. So they, on both ends of the trade equation, are flexing their muscles and balling up their fists, as we all.

[Jack Armstrong]

Learned during COVID when we found out that. Wait a second, every medicine I take in my life is made in China. Turns out a lot of other important stuff, too, like super fast computer chips and the things you need to make a jet fighter. How in the world do you get to the point that your obvious number one foe on planet Earth is in control of the important stuff you need to make a jet plane?

[Joe Getty]

The pathetic naivete is that the right word of the, hey, things are fun.

[Jack Armstrong]

With China and there never be a conflict again.

[Joe Getty]

And we can become completely dependent on them for, like, the most critical minerals and the most critical technology. And there's no downside because they sell it to us cheap. It's unbelievable. It's being asleep at the national security switch.

[Jack Armstrong]

So before we take a break and get into the amazing peace thing that Trump has pulled off, it looks like in the Middle east that everybody left, right, and center is hailing. You said you watched a little baseball last night. I don't. How much do you care about the amount of money teams spend in all your pro sports? I mean, because to a certain extent, the team that wins is not always. Definitely not always. You can't just buy a championship, but pretty regularly, the best teams out there have the highest payrolls. And it's just flat. It's just flat that. So the Dodgers are the most expensive team in all of Major League Baseball by quite a bit. Then you got the Yankees, who lost last night, so they're out. But then you got the Toronto Blue Jays, who beat the Yankees last night, or right behind the Yankees, and you got the Philadelphia Phillies, who are playing the Dodgers. So, you know, and every once in a while you have teams like this. This is one reason, you know, I could root for the brewers easily there. So the Dodgers payroll this year, $350 million. $350 million for one year to field the baseball team of All Stars that they've got. The brewers. 111 million. Wow. And they had the best record in all of baseball. And they are headed to another round probably. But I don't know if that should that matter. Should I just enjoy sports as it is and not pay attention to that or.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know, you know, it's almost like a plot device to me, like a plot twist or it makes the, the evil powerful guy more fun to. Yeah, but at the point where, you know, it's just six out of, or you know, seven out of the final eight teams are all at the top of the payroll chart. That's kind of a fun suck, honestly.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is a little bit, isn't it?

[Joe Getty]

Well, for the other teams, you don't have a chance.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, the average in Major league baseball is 175 million. That's the average. 175 million. Your, your top four teams are all around 300 million, almost double that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And they're the teams that are in the playoffs. So if, you know, if you root for a team that's that lower end, generally you don't have a chance.

[Joe Getty]

Right, right. That's no fun.

[Jack Armstrong]

Peace in the Middle East. Has it finally come? Well, it's closer than it's been in a very, very long time, maybe ever.

[Joe Getty]

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The hostages will come back. They're coming.

[Jack Armstrong]

All coming back on Monday.

[Joe Getty]

What do you guys have to say to President Trump? Thank you. This is amazing. Mr. President, we believe in you. We know you've done so much for us over the past, since you became a president, even before that. And we trust you fulfilled the mission.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that's the Israelis. Donald Trump is the most popular politician in Israel by far. He has the best relationship with Arab leaders any president has ever had. So if you have those two things going for you and then the other angle to get this peace deal going, here's Michael Oren, who gets. He's on all the shows the last couple of days or whatever.

[Joe Getty]

He.

[Jack Armstrong]

Former ambassador from Israel to the United States, war hero in Israel, written lots of books. Anyway, here's how he says Trump pulled it off.

[Joe Getty]

The major pressure here was not on Israel. It was pushing out an open door. The major pressure is on Hamas, and these leaders in the Middle east have had it with Hamas. Hamas brought war to the Middle East. Instability, destruction, and what begins with Israel Palestine never ends with Israel Palestine. It ends up with riots in the streets of Riyadh and Cairo. And they were fed up and they wanted it over. And that is extraordinary achievement here of bringing all of these disparities together who don't agree with one another and certainly not with Israel, to end the war by putting pressure on Hamas.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Trump got all these Arab countries to be anti Hamas enough to. For Hamas to feel like, man, we got no friends right now.

[Joe Getty]

Through both the exercise of force and as we were discussing earlier, saying, hey, there's all sorts of great deals out here we can make, and y' all could make a ton of money if you quit, you know, supporting the evildoers, because that's got to happen. But I saw one headline, israelis celebrate the release of hostages. And I'm very cautiously, very optimistic, just because there are zero horses in barns right now. David Ignatius, Jack, you mentioned earlier said he's 100% certain.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. He wrote in the Washington Post he's 100% certain the hostages will be released.

[Joe Getty]

I pray he's right. I really do. But anyway, the headline was, Israelis Celebrate the Return of Hostages, but wonder why it took so long. And I would like to tell those Israelis, because you had to pound Hamas into a position where they had no choice but to submit. Probably more on that in a minute. You had to make it clear to the Arab world that, yeah, we'll bomb guys in your cities if we have to. We'll take out your nuclear program. Iran, you know, we'll. We'll. We'll take down a safe house. Syria and. And the. The bombing in Qatar, that was only semi successful. It was the application of force.

[Jack Armstrong]

Absolutely.

[Joe Getty]

As it always is, that brings people to the peace table.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know. I've heard some people making the. See, this is what you need is you need to have discussions and bring peace. The peace came.

[Joe Getty]

Why couldn't this happen sooner?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's from the crowd that says war never solved anything, which is hilariously stupid. I mean, war has never solved anything. The blowing off the gonads of everybody in Hezbollah, the bombing, the crap out of Iran, the pounding Gaza, the driving Assad out of Syria, all of these things played a role in getting to this point, Correct? Correct.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Anyway, I like this point of view. From the Wall Street Journal, it's summer Saeed and Dov Lieber who've been doing some good writing all through this thing. To the world, Hamas said it accepted major parts. Oh, did we have more of a Michael Oren we wanted to play.

[Jack Armstrong]

No. Okay, not right now.

[Joe Getty]

Ok. To the world, Hamas said it accepted major parts of President Trump's peace plan. Internally, Hamas remains bitterly div. Divided over how to proceed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I'm sure.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure you got plenty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of 19 year old Hamas members who are perfectly willing to fight to the end, right?

[Joe Getty]

On Friday, Hamas said they were willing to release hostages and hand over Gaza. A landmark statement boosting Trump's push for an end of the war. But Hamas used hedged language that some observers saw as problematic to clinching a final piece. Uh, big reason is that Hamas hasn't reached consensus about disarming and under what conditions to let the hostages go. Uh, Khalil Al Haya, Hamas's top negotiator, who Netanyahu tried to drop a bomb on his head and got his son, and several other senior political officials support accepting the proposal despite significant reservations, according to Arab mediators. But those Hamas officials based outside Gaza have limited sway over the group's armed wing, which remains in Gaza.

[Jack Armstrong]

Go ahead, armed wing. You will be hunted down and killed one by one, guaranteed.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I just. Oh, God. You got to get the hostages back.

[Jack Armstrong]

The return of the sausages. Sorry, did I say sausages? I meant hostages.

[Joe Getty]

You know, I joked the other day that we need to return to a monarchy under Prince William when he's king. Uh, but Britain is so screwed up, we really. Never mind Greenland and Canada. We need to annex Britain and straighten it out again. It's like your dad is a degenerate drunk and he's living on the street. Great Britain is our papa, you know. Well, her mama, Great Burton birthed us. It was a difficult birth involving bayonets and muskets. Uh, but they are so messed up.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I don't quite understand. I haven't been following closely what's going to be the next step after the hostages are returned by Monday. Hamas is the elected government of Gaza. So who's going to be the government? Are they going to just be without a government for a while? I mean, if Israel pulls out, who's picking up the garbage and keeping the lights on and shoveling rubble to the side so you can start rebuilding what looks like a moonscape?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, the next step in every single step of this is going to be really complicated and difficult and the pressure must continue every day on the evildoers. But yeah, the next step is figuring out that very thing. If the Israelis withdraw to, you know, the designated line, which they're still negotiating, when does this international peace commission take shape? And Hamas, by the way, agreed for that unarmed observers could be in Gaza, but not armed forces to keep order. So, yeah, what that looks like, nobody's 100% sure there's a plan, but you know, to what extent it manifests itself on the ground, nobody's really sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Here's a good one to get on. This is from News Nation where they had a reporter on the ground in Gaza asking questions. They say they're the only ones there. Clips 45 and 46 there, Michael.

[Joe Getty]

It has been a moment that they have been waiting for for so long. There has been so much hedged optimism and skepticism throughout this whole process because they have seen deals get to the finish line only to fizzle out in the end. But you see all these photos that have been put out by the hostages and missing families forum showing the moments in which they heard the news here embracing one another, the smiles, the hope, the possibility that this could all be.

[Jack Armstrong]

Over here, hours ahead of this deal here.

[Joe Getty]

Speaking directly with Palestinians, we asked them point blank, what do they think about Hamas? What have they thought about these last two years? Here's what they said.

[Jack Armstrong]

You said you hate Israel.

[Joe Getty]

What do you think of Hamas?

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know, but I hate Hamas so much.

[Joe Getty]

Hamas is bunch of criminals.

[Jack Armstrong]

They don't think of our people's needs for 17 years. Yeah. So there was a bunch of those News nation on the ground with the people Gaza, they hate Jews, but they, they also realize Hamas has got to go so well.

[Joe Getty]

And Hamas was the freely elected government, but then they declared, as Islamists always do at the end to elections.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And you know, things have gotten bad enough. Which is what? You know, getting back to the whole war never solved anything except for everything. Things have to get bad enough.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it did. Signed the slaves in the U.S. back to you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Or.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

All of Europe after World War II. Yeah, there are a thousand examples. Things got bad enough that as much as they hate the Jews, I would guess the average Goslin singing I don't care. I don't care how long this takes. I don't care. This is better than what the direction we were headed.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Right. Mamun Malman. Sorry, I got your name wrong. Maumon El Nator is a guy. You don't know his name, but you may be aware of him. He was one of those unbelievably brave guys in Gaza. He's an Arab Muslim Gaza ite who was leading anti Hamas protests last year. I think it was mostly. And he had been tortured multiple times and beaten. And he mentions that he had been ordered to report to the local hospital for an interrogation that evening. And he points out that as they do in most Gaza hospitals, Hamas maintains a torture dungeon at Al Shifa, this hospital hidden from the regular wards and operating rooms. He'd been arrested by Hamas on 20 occasions, tortured more than once. But he's written an absolutely brilliant piece entitled Free Gaza's Palestinians from Hamas. And he makes it clear that there is much, much more anti Hamas sentiment than you heard publicly. Because they so openly slaughtered people. They would. They would either torture them to death or. They mentioned one guy who was a journalist, he joined the protest, they broke his feet, shot him in the legs, they stabbed another activist to death and hurled its body from a tower. Often they leave you on your parents doorstep as a message to the other families in the region. And so, you know, there's a lot of hatred of the Jews, whether, you know, for reasonable reasons or not in Gaza. But there's much, much more resentment of Hamas than. Than it seems. There are plenty of people who are down with the attacks on October 7. I am not trying to paint the quote unquote Palestinians as nice folk, but yeah, there are plenty of people who despise Hamas.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Bremmer tweeted out last night if Trump certainly has my respect, if this goes as planned, credit for ending a war Biden didn't end Europe didn't end the Gulf states, didn't end with Hamas not releasing hostages through all those efforts and Israel still bombing, cutting off aid. But Trump was able to do it again because he, he was able to pressure Benjamin Netanyahu because Trump is more popular than their own prime minister in Israel and he is able to get the Arab states on board because to a certain extent because of all the personal business deals he's done with them and, and they trust him. So it's quite the deal.

[Joe Getty]

In answering one of your questions and continuing a little more of Al Natura's piece about getting rid of Hamas, he mentions that there are several parts of northern Gaza special, especially where people can access medical care, buy their food at market at normal prices and are living fairly normal lives because they're not Hamas controlled territory. And a lot of people despise Hamas, as I said, and he says these cities should not be an exception, which is why President Trump's 20 point peace plan has renewed Gazan's hope for a more stable future. The power of Mr. Trump's plan comes from Clause 17. Even if Hamas refuses to sign the deal, the US together with regional partners will establish an independent civilian administration to manage the large areas of Gaza that have already been cleared of Hamas fighters. An international peacekeeping body consisting of Palestinian Arab forces will support the new civil administration, ensuring that Hamas never regains control and in turn Israel will withdraw its forces from those areas. Again, every single step of this is going to be difficult, but it's a solid plan.

[Jack Armstrong]

Watching this video the other day from Bill Clinton and I think it was during the presidential campaign, but it was Bill Clinton in 2016 when Hillary was running for president. He gave this speech about Hamas and the peace deal that he tried to put together that was so good and Just ignored by the mainstream media because they didn't want it to be true. Where he talked about Hamas and their phony hospitals and their phony peace deals and all the things that they do and how awful they are. And you know, nobody wanted to hear that noise from Bill Clinton because that.

[Joe Getty]

He'S old, he's practically a Republican. Right? He's a white man. Huh? Oh, old white men telling us what to think.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I was just looking up at the TV and CBS was playing that interview from Katie Porter where she gets all angry at the report man, that she's got. I would love to be in that war room. That's always my favorite stuff. Crisis control, how they deal with, you know, when something bad happens, she's screaming.

[Joe Getty]

At her staff and attacking them with her hands. So you wouldn't want to be in that war room.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, she's probably boiling potatoes on their head. I guarantee you her attempt at a comeback from this is going to be fantastic. It's going to be hilarious.

[Joe Getty]

I'm going to love it.

[Jack Armstrong]

We got more on the way. Stay here. Get out of my shots.

[Joe Getty]

There you go, Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

So Dolly Parton's sister, who knew Dolly Parton had a sister who is still alive, tweeted out something. Pray for Dolly. So apparently the Dolly World fandom, world went nuts thinking Dolly was dying. So Dolly had to come out yesterday and say, I ain't dying yet. I'm still here with my big giant jugs.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Well said. Like the Star Spangled Banner that still flew in our national anthem, the dawn's early light, Dolly has emerged to declare that she too still flies in the dawn's light.

[Jack Armstrong]

So we were all just laughing at these AI videos of politician Katie Porter of California. Not only did she say, I'm done with this, I'm quitting the interview, blah, blah, blah. She, she attacks the reporter and stomps on her in this AI video. And it's, it's like the, the quality is amazing.

[Joe Getty]

It really is. It's hilarious and disturbing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Especially the last one where she shoves that poor reporter to the ground and starts stomping on her in her sensible, flat, you know, flat heels.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Wow. Hey, that, that monster Jay Jones in Virginia who fantasizes about shooting Republicans in the head and watching their children die and then when called on it doubles down. And so you got to make people suffer physically to change their politics. And he's still being backed by all the major Democrats in Virginia. Is he single? Because Katie Porter is divorced.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that'd be a great couple, the two of the.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, what a power couple they would make you. Holy cow. Oof. Indeed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Katie Porter's four husband and kid, I'm guessing.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, bitterly berated, verbally assaulted physically. Her staff quits in droves. She's a sieging rage machine and yet has advanced far in California politics because she is a bare knuckled crusader for the powers that be. Kisses the right rings. I'm not in your effing shot. Get off of my effing show, you monster. Oh my God.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know the last time somebody blew up their political career to this extent so quickly. That's fantastic. And like I said, I think her comeback is going to be hilarious.

[Joe Getty]

Oh.

And utterly insincere.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's just going to be a train wreck. It's going to make it worse. I guarantee it. It's going to make it worse. Whatever, whatever attempt she makes and she's got to do it quickly. I'm surprised it's taken this long.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because it's been 48 hours that that video has been going around and everybody's been playing it and made the evening newscast nationwide. And she thought she was going to be governor of California, which is a pretty plum job. I'm surprised that she hasn't attempted to fix it yet she might be going.

[Joe Getty]

Oddly enough, with the Armstrong and Getty plan of no, something crazy is going to happen. Everybody's going to forget about this. I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a good plan. I generally agree with that. But peace in the Middle east hasn't bumped it off the front page today. Because I'm looking up at the TVs and they're playing it. Yeah, we got peace in the Middle east after 5,000 years. Anyway, here's Katie Porter yelling at someone.

[Joe Getty]

Shots. The great thing about the insincere is that they think they can come off as sincere. They can't. That's so she will attempt that eventually. It's like Gavin Newsome with his infamous going to lunch in Napa during COVID and all. It was an early dinner and we all make mistakes. We're all human. We all fall short sometimes. Nobody is buying this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nobody. Yeah, so I can't wait for her comeback. We have the videos atarmstrong and yeti.com. i tweeted them out if you want to see Katie Porter stomping that poor reporter. Oh, my gosh, we got more news on the way. If you miss a segment of any kind or an hour, get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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