Where Are The Patriots?!

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "Where Are The Patriots?!"

Date: October 28, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

Armstrong and Getty tackle the increasingly toxic landscape of American politics, focusing on gerrymandering, partisanship, and what’s missing—a new generation of genuine patriots. The conversation spans the self-serving maps drawn by both political parties, California’s controversial Prop 50, national ramifications on redistricting, social contagion among youth, and even a healthy dose of baseball talk. The tone is irreverent, sharp, and sometimes personal, as the hosts mix serious policy critique with their trademark side commentary and humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Gerrymandering “Arms Race”

• Both parties are guilty: The hosts emphasize how both Republicans and Democrats participate in aggressive gerrymandering to gain unfair representation—each justifying their moves as merely reacting to the “evil” of the other.

  • Jack Armstrong [00:28]: “Democrats are gonna push back aggressively to make sure that we have fair maps across the country, not partisan gerrymandering which Republicans have initiated in state after state after state.”
  • Joe Getty [00:41]: “The great race to the bottom of gerrymandering with each side saying this makes us sad, but we're only doing it because we have to, because the evildoers on the other side have done it first.”

• Where are the patriots?

  • Joe Getty [00:59]: “How are patriots not in charge?”
  • Jack Armstrong [01:01]: “We need to stop saying Republicans and Democrats and look for patriots.”

• Case study—California: Despite a supposedly independent commission, the state remains gerrymandered in favor of Democrats, reducing Republican representation far below their share of the vote.

  • Jack Armstrong [01:41]: “Republicans represent about 40% of the votes in California, they only have about 18% of the representation in Congress... California's gonna take it another step and get it down around 5%.”

Notable Quote

“Somebody put that on the Internet or tattoo it on your chest... Put it next to Armstrong, with this statement of the day.”
— Joe Getty [02:48]

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Crossfire & Political Hypocrisy

• Arnold Schwarzenegger’s take:
  Schwarzenegger, interviewed by Jake Tapper, debunks the notion that only Republicans started gerrymandering and urges performance over finger-pointing.

  • Arnold Schwarzenegger [06:13]: “There is such extreme gerrymandering going on that in a state like Massachusetts, it has like 40% of the people voting for Trump. They only had zero representatives. The Republican Party has zero representatives sent to the House.”
  • Arnold Schwarzenegger [07:49]: “This whole thing about finger pointing... that's not really the way to go. The one party should outperform the other party. It should be performance.”

• Media criticism:
  The hosts poke fun at Jake Tapper for either not knowing or ignoring the long bipartisan history of gerrymandering.

  • Joe Getty [07:01]: “Jake Elbridge Gerry signed the effing Declaration of Independence. It's named after him... Jake, you blank and ignoramus.”
  • Jack Armstrong [07:13]: “Hey, Jake Tapper, you just lost a debate to an Austrian bodybuilder.”

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Policy Fallout and Political Theater

• California’s Prop 50 & National Backlash:
  The hosts discuss theories (from a plugged-in listener) that Gavin Newsom’s Prop 50 may be triggering increased GOP gerrymandering elsewhere as a retaliatory move.

  • Joe Getty [16:19]: “Gavin's proposition is triggering Republicans in other states, like Indiana, to do way more redistricting... leading to a very large GOP gain, thus backfilling firing on Newsom.”

• Gavin Newsom’s “hyperbole”:

  • Jack Armstrong [11:33]: “Yeah, you're trying to be honest about it by claiming there might not be a 2028 presidential election.”
  • Joe Getty [11:39]: “God, he's so full of crap.”

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Digression: Baseball Marathon & Cultural Commentary

• 18-inning World Series game:
  Extended discussion on the marathon baseball game, its exhaustion factor, and quirks like Shohei Ohtani’s helmet issues and alleged “radiation-fueled” durability.

  • Jack Armstrong [23:10]: “I think it's similar to Godzilla and Mothra. I think he came in contact with some sort of nuclear thing.”
  • Joe Getty [25:50]: “I've always loved it when a team runs out of pitchers and they've got, you know, like their, their center fielder's got a really live arm and he pitched in college...”

• Celebration of underdog athletes:
  The story of Alejandro Kirk, the short, portly catcher from Tijuana, purchased for $7,500 and defying all athletic stereotypes.

  • Jack Armstrong [27:51]: “He is a guy. He's one of those people that like if he worked into your work, walked into your workplace, you wouldn't want him on your softball team. You'd think that guy is not an athlete.”

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Social Contagion & Identity

• Nellie Bowles on the decline in transgender identification:
  The hosts quote Bowles’ commentary attributing the drop in young people identifying as transgender to the fad-like nature of teen identity struggles, and discuss medical overreach.
  • Joe Getty [17:12]: “There have always been a small number of people who feel truly dysphoric in their sex... The last thing you want is a horde of depressed teen girls latching onto your situation as a way to rage against their bodies.”
  • Jack Armstrong [18:07], quoting Bowles: “I say, scram, kids. Get outta here. I'm putting up a border around gay territory and saying, no more may enter...”

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Immigration Enforcement Shakeup

• Trump Administration overhauls ICE leadership:
  Multiple ICE chiefs are being replaced with Border Patrol officials to push for far more aggressive deportation, especially in progressive cities.

  • Bill Melugin [19:54]: “They're removing up to 12 ICE chiefs from around the country... in an effort to boost deportation numbers, which are already at more than half a million since President Trump took office.”
  • Joe Getty [21:37]: “It's just who's who's down to the plan and who's not.”

• Labor market disconnect:

  • Joe Getty [21:17]: “There are apparently roughly 2% of the construction workers in America who speak English, which is odd given how those are pretty good jobs.”

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Socialism & Class Critique

• Jon Stewart interviews Zohran Mamdani, NYC progressive:

  • Jack Armstrong [31:29]: “He doesn't have that overly consulted, scared to answer question thing that most losers have, which is one of the reasons he's winning.”

• Matt Taibbi’s class analysis:
  The hosts discuss Taibbi’s critique of privileged, progressive socialists who “disdain their own good fortune.”

  • Joe Getty [33:05]: “This country has problems, even serious ones. But it’s not like gangsters are setting up freelance toll booths on I-95 or the Strip steak you ordered at Ponderosa has a good chance of being cat meat... The only people who think the system that produced the richest, safest empire in history is essentially unfixable are America's own wealthy, whose current disdain for their own good fortune is like a political version of heroin chic.”

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Middle East Update

• Urgent Israel news:

  • Jack Armstrong [34:55]: “Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, has instructed the Israeli Defense Force to immediately carry out powerful strikes in the Gaza Strip. I don't know if that means the ceasefire is over...”

• Big picture:

  • Joe Getty [35:19]: “Hamas never had any intention of coming to peace... The Arab nations, which had stood up and said, yeah, we'll be part of imposing the peace...it's like, yeah, we're with you in spirit.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|--------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:59 | Joe Getty | “How are patriots not in charge?” | | 02:48 | Joe Getty | "Somebody put that on the Internet or tattoo it on your chest... Put it next to Armstrong, with this statement of the day." | | 06:13 | Arnold Schwarzenegger | "There is such extreme gerrymandering going on that in a state like Massachusetts, it has like 40% of the people voting for Trump. They only had zero representatives." | | 07:01 | Joe Getty | “Jake Elbridge Gerry signed the effing Declaration of Independence. It’s named after him.” | | 17:12 | Joe Getty (reading Bowles) | “There have always been a small number of people who feel truly dysphoric in their sex... I say, scram, kids. Get outta here. I'm putting up a border around gay territory...” | | 33:05 | Joe Getty (quoting Taibbi) | "...The only people who think the system that produced the richest, safest empire in history is essentially unfixable are America's own wealthy, whose current disdain for their own good fortune is like a political version of heroin chic." | | 34:55 | Jack Armstrong | "Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, has instructed the Israeli Defense Force to immediately carry out powerful strikes in the Gaza Strip." |

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Timestamps of Major Segments

• Gerrymandering Hypocrisy & “Where Are the Patriots?” – [00:28–04:21]
• Arnold Schwarzenegger Interview & Tapper Critique – [05:04–08:19]
• California’s Prop 50 & Backlash Theory – [15:25–16:30]
• Social Contagion and Trans Identity (Nellie Bowles letter) – [16:41–18:45]
• ICE Shakeup & Immigration Policy – [19:54–22:41]
• Baseball Marathon & Athlete Oddities (Ohtani, Kirk, etc.) – [23:03–28:39]
• Socialism, Class, & Matt Taibbi's Perspective – [31:04–34:26]
• Israel-Hamas Breaking News – [34:55–36:14]
• Final Thoughts & Wrap up – [36:14-end]

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Takeaway

This episode was a blend of pointed political critique and the show’s signature irreverent commentary. Armstrong and Getty argue for a return to patriotism and integrity in leadership—above party loyalty—while highlighting the absurdities and consequences of hyper-partisan behavior, flawed election reforms, and the radicalization of American discourse. From mockery of media ignorance to scathing analysis of coastal elitism, the episode delivers an entertaining yet urgent call for accountability, practicality, and—above all—national interest over tribal politics.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Joe Getty]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at.

[Commercial Announcer]

The George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Democrats are gonna push back aggressively to make sure that we have fair maps across the country, not partisan gerrymandering which Republicans have initiated in state after state after state.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. I know, I know. The great race to the bottom of gerrymandering with each side saying this makes us sad, but we're only doing it because we have to, because the evildoers on the other side have done it first.

[Jack Armstrong]

How are grown ups not in charge of all of this?

[Joe Getty]

How are patriots not in charge?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Patriots. Who? Like, I'm a Democrat, you're a Republican, but we're both Patriots and we both know that Illinois is gerrymandered to death. In Massachusetts, it's gerrymandered to death. And now Texas is trying to do it. How about we do away with gerrymandering the best we can in all states?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah, it's tough, man. Self governance is tough in the modern age because, like, California is a great example. Came up with a really solid looking nonpartisan independent districting commission featuring lots of citizens and. But the Democrats, because it's one party state, gamed it immediately and got control of it by lying about who was who and the rest of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Which is why while Republicans represent about 40% of the votes in California, they only have about 18% of the representation in Congress. So it's already not fair. This new map. This new map, and that's about in line with tech, what Texas is now, by the way. So Texas caught up to California in terms of them disenfranchising Democrats in the way that they had done Republicans, California even, but now Republican. Now California's gonna take it another step and get it down around 5%. So you have 40% of the votes in California. Republicans will have 5% of the representation after next Tuesday when our moronic electorate goes to the polls and. And votes for this stupid prop.

[Joe Getty]

Correct? Yeah. My home state of Illinois. It's brutally, hilariously gerrymandered. It's funny. Hakeem Jeffries doesn't mention that, but he must have forgotten.

[Jack Armstrong]

How do you flipping do that with a straight face? Where are the patriots? That's the right word. We need to stop saying Republicans and Democrats and look for patriots.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Boy, I love that. Love that. Somebody put that on the Internet or tattoo it on your chest or jot it down or something. Put it next to Armstrong with this statement of the day.

[Jack Armstrong]

Put it next to my big Nazi tattoo I've had on my chest ever since that one night in Bangkok.

[Joe Getty]

Come on now, we were all young ones. So here's Rich Edson on Fox News talking about this whole thing. The congressional redistricting wave has arrived in Indiana. Governor Mike Brauns announcing he is quote, calling a special legislative session to protect Hoosiers from efforts in other states that seek to diminish their voice in Washington. Following a push from the White House, Indiana is among about a dozen states considering congressional districts.

[Jack Armstrong]

The Democrats have done it long before we started.

[Joe Getty]

They've done it all over the place. Last week, Virginia Democrats announced plans to redraw their commonwealth's congressional districts to add as many as three more Democrats to the House of Representatives. An issue now in the governor's race there. What we are seeing today is the worst kind of political backtracking. An attempt to grab power by erasing the voter's voice. So how far are we going to. Self righteous statements wear me out.

[Jack Armstrong]

How far are we going to take it? So Texas will get to the point where it's all the House members are Republicans and Democrats in California will be 100% of the house members and every state will just be. If you have the majority, you don't allow any of the other party to have a representative. I guess that's where we're going with our gerrymandering.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I just, I don't know where this ends. You ever been to Indiana, Michael? No, never. You're a native Californian, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I am. Yeah. Yeah. Indiana Dunes got sunburned several times there. In fact, as my dermatologist cuts various things out of me, I can probably attribute several of them to the Indiana dunes. Southern Indiana is beautiful. It's absolutely gorgeous. And Larry, birds from Indiana. So ends my welcome to Indiana.

[Jack Armstrong]

I went to a Colts game once in Indianapolis Coats. It's the only indoor NFL game I've ever been to. Been to. Pretty appealing sitting there in your T shirt. Perfect temperature.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

That was pretty nice.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, nice. Anyway, that's enough of you.

[Jack Armstrong]

We want to hear from Arnold on this.

[Joe Getty]

We do. Jake Tapper was talking to Arnold.

[Commercial Announcer]

I just love Indiana.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, thank you. Thank you. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who was reverting back to. And I remember how attractive he was as a candidate. A Republican and a conservative in a lot of ways, but a reasonable guy who was willing to compromise and talk to other people. And that's right.

[Jack Armstrong]

He's got the big neck and the tan and the movie star and all that sorts of things.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, and the maid, don't forget the maid. But then he overreached and the unions beat the crap out of him and he gave up and just became an annoyance. But anyway, here he is with Jake Tapper. As you acknowledged, this all started because of redistricting in Texas. And this was Trump pushing Republican controlled states to throw out their current congressional maps so as to cook the book so that there is less, it is less likely for Democrats to retake control of the House during the next year midterms. I mean, is it fair to argue that, do you believe that the Republican Party is starting this?

[Arnold Schwarzenegger]

No, Jake, there has been gerrymandering going on for 200 years. There is such extreme gerrymandering going on that in a state like Massachusetts, it has like 40% of the people voting for Trump. They only had zero representatives. The Republican Party has zero representatives sent to the House. Think about that. In New Mexico, if 45% of the people voted for Trump and vote Republican and 0 is sent to the House, 0 representative from the Republican Party. So there's gerrymandering, crazy gerrymandering going on all over the country.

[Joe Getty]

Jake Elbridge Gary signed the effing Declaration of Independence. It's named after him. Jake, you blank and ignoramus.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey, Jake Tapper, you just lost a debate to an Austrian bodybuilder. Congratulations. So you tell me, does Jake Tapper actually not know that? Well, the Republicans started this, didn't they?

[Joe Getty]

Are you serious?

[Jack Armstrong]

You can't be serious. I mean, if that was 10 minutes researching gerrymandering, you wouldn't make that statement.

[Joe Getty]

Well, and Jake, he didn't even phrase it as Democrats are saying Republican. No, he just stated it. Everybody knows what Republicans. You know, he's lucky, Michael, that Arnold didn't lose his temper.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

Because we know how angry he gets and you know, but I hope you leave enough room for my fist because I'm going to ram it into your stomach.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I don't know what Jake Tapper.

[Joe Getty]

Would have said in the interview.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I don't know how you would respond to that. You're going to.

[Joe Getty]

Arnold wasn't done.

[Arnold Schwarzenegger]

I think this whole thing about finger pointing and said they did it, so therefore we should doing it. That's not really the way to go. The one party should outperform the other party. It should be performance. And when it comes to midterm elections, as you know, always the party that is not in the White House usually wins by 20, 25. 30 seats. So what does five seats matter in the first place in Texas? It is crazy. You should outperform them. That is where the action is, Jake.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sorry. Arnold. Right? Everything he's saying is right. I'm not sure why he called in from a mall food court, though. It was noisy wherever he was.

[Jack Armstrong]

Man. All I know is I hope you leave enough room for my fist because I'm going to ram it into your stomach.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

What movie is that?

[Arnold Schwarzenegger]

You like that, huh?

[Jack Armstrong]

What movie is that from?

[Joe Getty]

Was it Kindergarten Cop?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I don't think so. Do you know, Katie, you know, I. I don't. How many Arnold Schwarzenegger movies have I actually seen? Very, very few.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, he's not a good actor.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think. I had a girlfriend who made me watch the Terminator once because that's not really my bag.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, that was, you know, he. He portrayed a robot, so he's perfect for that role.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think she might have been a lizard.

[Joe Getty]

Stop whining. It's the same girl from the film.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think my girlfriend was a lesbian. Yeah. Yeah. Back to you, Katie. This is from the film Running man, okay?

[Joe Getty]

That's right.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's from Running man, which I have not seen. I unfortunately saw Conan the Barbarian in a drive in theater and it was already so darkly filmed at the drive in where it's not as bright. It was just. It was like a black screen with a guy you can't understand. So it was not that enjoyable a cinema experience.

[Joe Getty]

What makes you think your girlfriend was a lesbian? You're burying the lead.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, I know this sounds like the sort of thing a certain kind of guy would say, but the relationship got hung up and she knows. No longer interested in me. And you know, that's. The dumb guy thinks she must be a lesbian if she doesn't like me. But she. It was very odd. And I had heard stories that she had been with other women's. She was an athlete, so I don't know. I don't judge it. It just. It would made it. I wish I would have known it. It made more sense why things weren't working out because otherwise it seemed like everything was great.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Great friends and companions.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So why is this not okay? Well, it's. Because you're. Anyway, she made me watch. Yeah. What straight girl makes you watch the Terminator? It's a lesbian sort of flick, isn't it? What?

[Joe Getty]

Stop whining. I'll ask my gay friends. Am I wrong?

[Jack Armstrong]

Katie, that's not a typical sort of movie. That a girl wants to watch. Is it?

[Joe Getty]

I mean, I enjoy it and I'm not a lesbian.

[Jack Armstrong]

What the hell?

[Joe Getty]

Had a strong. Oh, it did have a super strong buff female character in it that she.

[Jack Armstrong]

Probably was hot for my lesbian girlfriend. Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, just your genre. Until she met a nice gal. All right, so you can always depend on Gavin Newsom to interject hyperbole and stupidity into the conversation. Our final clip on this topic, quite literally, I'm making the case. That's why I have this initiative, Prop 50. There may not be a 2028 election that's free and fair. So my focus is central to getting over the hump in November 4th of this year and then working on 2026 in the midterm reelections. Look, when people, particularly people that have run before, etc. Everybody knows the politician, the response, the kabuki. Well, I'm just focusing on my day job and we'll see where things go. So I tried to be a little more honest about it and people ran with it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you're trying to be honest about it by claiming there might not be a 2028 presidential election.

[Joe Getty]

God, he's so full of crap.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's your honesty.

[Joe Getty]

He might gather and solidify the half wit vote, which can get you pretty far in the Democratic primary. But anybody with two brain cells to rub together is going to reject him out of hand.

[Jack Armstrong]

She didn't wear Doc Martens. She didn't listen to Melissa Etheridge. Drew, maybe. I don't know if I can come up with any other.

[Joe Getty]

We intersected. Right. I remember her. Yeah. Yeah. She had an aspect to her that rings true to your diagnosis.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

I remember when you first floated that idea to me. I was not shocked. That was a long time ago.

[Jack Armstrong]

The hell?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. You have any theory on that, Michael? No.

[Joe Getty]

Fair enough. That's funny enough.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is there any chance the baseball players are going to come out on the field and just weep tonight? I wonder if they're going to walk out there and just one of them finally goes down on their knees and just puts her head in their hand, starts crying, we have to play again. I barely slept.

[Joe Getty]

Or they're going to send some, you know, the. The last guy generally off the bench is going to be seen in the shadows pulling fire alarms and evacuating the stadium.

[Jack Armstrong]

As a fan, I don't know if I can take first pitch tonight. And I loved last night's game.

[Joe Getty]

Go in there and tweak the. The sprinkler so they run too long and the field's too muddy. Something, anything. If they're in the outfield, they'll just let the ball go by and just like point person. You get it? I can't move. I'm tired.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? Okay, we got more on the way. Stay here.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

That's kind of funny. The Senate just voted for the 13th time on opening the government back up and it failed again. So we will remain closed for at least another 24 hours. We are now at 28 days on the government shutdown. The record is 34, so I have a feeling we might get there.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, although the head of the Federal Employees Union came out yesterday and said end it now. Democrats clean continuing resolution fund it now so we'll have to see what earthquakes that causes. So a couple of comments on the last segment, one from a friend of the Armstrong Getty Show, Al Anonymous was quite plugged in who said on the topic of redistricting and the evil Prop 50 in California, I heard that some GOP consultants believe that Gavin's proposition is triggering Republicans in other states, like Indiana, to do way more redistricting than they were planning to, potentially leading to a very large GOP gain, thus backfilling firing on Newsom. The theory is that this might explain why there's less spending on on the no on 50 team than was expected because some establishment GOP guys secretly wanted to pass.

[Jack Armstrong]

So it triggers more backlash, which I.

[Joe Getty]

Could imagine happening because California's almost gerrymandered to death. I mean, there's just not much headroom there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right?

[Joe Getty]

That's pretty interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it really is.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Six to eight dimensional chess there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Coming up later this hour, why Shohei Otani messes with his hair so much. Have an explanation.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

That's a fairly gay tease. And speaking of your girlfriend, the probable lesbian. So one of my favorite writers, period, who happens to be a lesbian, Nellie Bowles, wrote the following for the Free Press. Wow. It really was a conta. A social contagion. And she talked about the same poll we were talking about a week ago or whenever it was that the number of young people in America who identify as transgender has been cut in half in two years. Okay. It was always a social contagion.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's really something.

[Joe Getty]

Da da da da da. This is good for a lot of reasons, she writes, but in particular, it's good for trans people. Why? Because there have always been a small number of people who feel truly dysphoric in their sex. And the last thing you want is a horde of depressed teen girls latching onto your situation as a way to rage against their bodies. A stand in for anorexia or cutting. I've never been more worried about my rights as a gay person than when all the angry youth started announcing they were gay or trans or queer. Because then I just knew backlash was coming. Anything funky they did, they called it gay. They wore a weird jacket and got creative with their haircuts, and all of a sudden they're claiming my identity. I say, scram, kids. Get outta here. I'm putting up a border around gay territory and saying, no more may enter. Uh, it's me. It's everyone in Provincetown, and it's my dykes in the Midwest. And that's it. We're full up. Go see the Mormons. See if the Mormons are taking applications.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm gonna start using the word scram more often. I had forgotten about. I do like that I'd forgotten about cutting, which was the thing for a while, which is obviously a contagion also.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, adolescents and social and the fact that the medical establishment in the US did and is still saying oh no, no. If a confused teenager says I feel like a boy, you've got to give her hormones and delay puberty and remove her healthy breasts. That's the only way to My God, these people ought to be jailed. The jails ought to be brimming with the progressives in the American medical establishment. I would be happy to be the judge of those kangaroo courts when they're up and running.

[Jack Armstrong]

Got a lot more to jam in the last half hour. If you miss it, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand.

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[Bill Melugin]

So this is a massive overhaul of ice leadership. I'm told by four senior DHS officials that they're removing up to 12 ice chiefs from around the country from their positions and reassigning them. I'm told this is a move spearheaded by Corey Lewandowski and it's all in an effort to boost deportation numbers, which are already at more than half a million since President Trump took office. So here's what we're talking about. Some of the ICE leadership positions being removed are the heads of ICE here in Los Angeles, in San Diego, Phoenix, Philadelphia, Seattle, El Paso, New Orleans and Denver, just to name some of them.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's interesting. So they're going to replace a bunch of the ICE people in charge hand selected replacements by the Border Patrol Commander Bavino. The why is the big thing, which Bill Malusian of Fox explains. More here.

[Bill Melugin]

Now, replacing ICE leadership with Border Patrol officials signals the Trump administration wants deportation efforts to get much more aggressive. With one Border Patrol source telling Fox, quote, what did everyone think mass deportations meant? Only the worst. Tom Homan has said it himself. Anyone in the US Illegally is on the table.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's it. When I first saw this headline, I thought, okay, feels like they've gone a little too far. Gonna back off? Nope, the other way around. They feel like they aren't being aggressive enough. They need people that are gonna be more aggressive than booting out every single person that's here illegally.

[Joe Getty]

I think they need to get started right after my remodel is done. I'm fully in support of this the minute all the work is done. Because there are apparently roughly 2% of the construction workers in America who speak English, which is odd given how those are pretty good jobs.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, but if you keep letting people come in from somewhere else, the wages can keep going down, down, down.

[Joe Getty]

Correct. Which is why famously, Cesar Chavez was staunchly against illegal immigration.

[Jack Armstrong]

And Bernie. Bernie's against illegal immigration for the working class.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't understand this. Maybe it'd be worth listening to on how it fits in with the Build back better plan 103 Michael senior Trump.

[Bill Melugin]

Administration official did confirm these personnel moves to Fox, adding that there was a big widespread review of ICE leadership after the one big beautiful bill passed. And I'm told these changes were made based off who the administration feels can execute a mass deportation agenda with all of that added money and staffing coming from that bill.

[Joe Getty]

Boy, it's just who's who's down to the plan and who's not. I'll bet they got plenty of rumbles from those almost entirely progressive cities that whoever had been in that gig for a while was really more down with the local vibe.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure.

[Joe Getty]

Than enthusiastic about carrying out the administration's plans. I can believe that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, we'll see how this plays out in practice and also politically. Somebody.

[Joe Getty]

But about six weeks, somebody texted as.

[Jack Armstrong]

To why Shohei Ohtani messes with his hair so much. So this is the big Japanese star of the Los Angeles Dodgers, who may be the best baseball player who ever.

[Joe Getty]

Lived and maybe the largest man ever to emerge from the island of Japan. He's a very big human being.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like I said earlier. I think it's similar to Godzilla and Mothra. I think he came in contact with some sort of nuclear thing.

[Joe Getty]

Probably.

[Jack Armstrong]

And that's why he most likely explanation.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

How he can be the best hitter and the best pitcher in the World Series. I mean, that doesn't make a Nation. It doesn't make any sense. Last night he got on base nine times. No, it was an 18 inning game. But he set the record during the nine innings for, for most extra base hits. Anyway, and he's pitching tonight, so he's a really good looking guy. He looks like a male model. And he gets done hitting his home runs or doubles or striking people out or whatever he's doing that particular day. And then he's there with his hat off and he's constantly messing with his hair, like running his fingers, thrown it, fluffing it back up, getting the, getting the look just right. I don't know if this is true or not. You tell me. The problem with Ohtani's hair is a batting helmet. American helmets don't fit Asian heads. Right. He's trying to get his helmet to sit right and stay in the Giants. Jungho Lee has a hell of a time his helmet flies off during swings a couple of times a game. The umps used to get in on his case until they learned that a Korean head doesn't fit a long American helmet. Do you know anything about that? I. What sounds ridiculous to me. I don't know that that's.

[Joe Getty]

Don't all the. Don't major league players all have custom fit hel helmets.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would assume that a guy like.

[Joe Getty]

Little League that are not all sharing three helmets.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would assume that a guy who got, who got a $700 million contract as the highest paid athlete on planet Earth gets a helmet that fits his head. I would assume.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I don't know. That sounds like a crocky crap.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh boy. I'll tell you what the most I wish, I wish that game last night had gone one more inning because something really exciting was going to happen. One, the Toronto Blue Jays were going to bring in their starter today. Starter, it looked like. And Yamamoto, the pitcher who pitched a complete game Saturday night for the Dodgers said, hey coach, put me in. As they ran, they'd run completely out of pitchers. They were going to have to put in like a catcher or something to pitch. And he said, I'm in. And he went and warmed up. He was, he was, he was in the bullpen warming up as a guy who pitched a full game 48 hours earlier, which is amazing by modern standards.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I know it's the World Series so this wouldn't happen, but I've always loved it when a team runs out of pitchers and they got, you know, like their, their center fielder's got a really live arm and he pitched in college, so he comes in and you know, he's throwing 84 mile per hour fastballs and occasionally throws a curve in. But because it's so different, the guys can't hit him.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that's what the Dodgers were planning to do because the manager wasn't going to call up Yamamoto. But it was really high drama at the end of the game. It happened in the middle of the night. But the announcer said the interpreter's talking to manager Roberts. Is it about Otani? Shohei Ohtani? And they thought, wow, it's got to be something. No, it turned out it was Yamamoto. The guy had pitched the last game.

[Joe Getty]

Said, who said put me in.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, no, I'll pitch. He wasn't going to let some right fielder go in who hasn't pitched since high school.

[Joe Getty]

You know why Yamamoto is so durable? Radiation.

[Jack Armstrong]

Exactly. The Japanese players have been rated similar to the way Mothra was.

[Joe Getty]

You know, take a look at the timeline. It's the Fukushima plant.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're right. That the tsunami it, the. I'm connecting the dots clearly.

[Joe Getty]

Two miles down the road from Japan's big baseball academy.

[Jack Armstrong]

I made that up. But that's the how conspiracy's hometown is wherever Fukushima is.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, he got radiated. That explains everything. Yes, Michael, you figured it out. And we called that guy hairbrained for the whole helmets don't fit Asian heads story. Do you have. And then I'll shut up about this because I watched every pitch of the game last night and found it absolutely fascinating. You gotta like baseball because I mean it was a pitchers. The second game, there were two games played, really two nine inning games. The second game was really a pitcher's duel up until the, the very end.

[Joe Getty]

But I'd like to see the, the, the, the ratings on the east coast and, and Toronto for that matter. The game ended at 10 minutes to 3 in the morning. It's just ridiculous.

[Jack Armstrong]

It was compelling in a lot of different ways. They kept bringing in different pitchers and all this. But I like the short fat catcher for Toronto. He's my favorite player. Alejandro Kirk, who They got for $7,500 from Tijuana for the price of a used car. They got him as a player.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that was a sign him signing bonus.

[Jack Armstrong]

And he is a guy. He's one of those people that like if he worked into your work, walked into your workplace, you wouldn't want him on your softball team. You'd think that guy is not an athlete.

[Joe Getty]

A little portly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, he just doesn't walk like an athlete. He didn't look like an athlete.

[Joe Getty]

And they told the story early in the game. I know you heard it because you're referencing it, but they, the guy was there, the scout was there to scout somebody else. And he told his bosses, no, no, no. You got to hear about this guy Kirk. He's unbelievable. Now you're going to see him and you're going to think I'm nuts. But me on this. The short fat guy. Yeah, the short extra short and portly. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

But what do you. My final question on this. What, what do you think it's going to be like tonight with all the players who played basically two games last night and stayed up until the middle of the night? And what, what do you expect you're going to see? Like a letdown in emotion or you're.

[Joe Getty]

Going to see a handful of guys resting to start the game. Maybe as each manager sees if they could can rest some of their starters because you don't want them to get hurt. It's, it's less about being tired per se than about them getting injured. Because when you're tired, that's when you blow something in sports. So yeah, I think, you know, they're, they're. The next man up might get a start today in some positions. Show, freaking show. He's the starting pitcher. That's insane.

[Jack Armstrong]

He got a little hurt in the middle of the game. He tried to steel base and then he pulled up limp and hobbled around a little bit and the manager ran out there right away. Everything okay? And they did a lot of.

[Joe Getty]

I almost dropped an S bomb. S. The owner should have run out there.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's wrong? What's wrong? And the head of Fox Sports and everyone else.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah, the commissioner, baseball.

[Jack Armstrong]

He stretched a little, winced a little and then, and then kept on playing.

[Joe Getty]

But who knows if that's another benefit of the radiation thing. Quick healing. Quick healing. That's right.

[Jack Armstrong]

You can pull a muscle and it heals in like a minute because you've been radiated by the Fukushima nuclear plant.

[Joe Getty]

It's the upside.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, exactly. We will finish strong.

[Joe Getty]

Next Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

New Yorkers, by the way, no one will be as mad at you if it doesn't go right as the people who love you. Now, have you felt that as well?

[Joe Getty]

You know, it's often framed as a burden or as an obligation, right? But frankly, I think it's an opportunity. It's an opportunity to actually show that this whole campaign where we've talked about freezing the rent, making buses faster, free, delivering universal childcare, these are not just slogans, right? These are commitments. And when we deliver them here in New York City, it will be also the delivery of a politics that can actually aspire for more than what you're living through.

[Jack Armstrong]

Zoran. That's Zoran Mandani on Jon Stewart's Daily show last night. He doesn't have that overly consulted, scared to answer question thing that most losers have, which is one of the reasons he's winning.

[Joe Getty]

That's Zoran Zohran.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

He is very, very skillful and smooth and charming at pitching his suicidal programs. He is, he is the not right.

[Jack Armstrong]

He is the archetype of that kind of person. Grew up rich and privileged.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And fights for socialism in a way that will make more people poor.

[Joe Getty]

I wish we had enough time to read. I'm working my way through the Matt Taibbi piece I referenced earlier and the response to it and his blast, which is absolutely wonderful. But he's talking about who's the guy with the Nazi tattoo. You know, I'm going to learn his name just in time to forget it because he's going to go away. Planner, remember in Maine with the Nazi tattoo. But he's talking about Mumdani as well. And, and he talks about how he became a journalist and it's actually very, very funny. But Matt Taibbi, like this platinum guy, like Mandani, grew up with east coast money and were sent to high dollar boarding schools and he got his out of his high dollar boarding school and he realized all this self actualization crap they were teaching me hasn't done me any good. I have no skills. I don't know what I'm supposed to.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do with my life.

[Joe Getty]

And he went overseas and worked, you know, menial jobs until he could start selling articles. But he says in countries where the bulk of people have to be concerned with survival, getting enough to eat, not being conquered by rival nations or revolutionaries, and holding crime and corruption to tolerable levels don't teach kids that they're citizens of oppressor nations that should probably be disbanded. They certainly wouldn't do it if they lucked into the benefits of citizenship in a country like the United States. This country has problems, even serious ones. But it's not like gangsters are setting up freelance toll booths on i95 or the Strip steak you ordered at Ponderosa has a good chance of being cat meat. Citizens of countries that have known they have lawyers. Citizens of countries that have known true suckage, including especially the ones with Marxist or Maoist histor, laugh at the things Americans call problems. The only people who think the system that produced the richest, safest empire in history is essentially unfixable are America's own wealthy, whose current disdain for their own good fortune is like a political version of heroin chic. He is one of the greatest writers operating on Earth, and he's absolutely right. This freaking neo Marxism is all about bored, overly intellectual, overly indoctrinated educated kids of the affluent. God, it makes me sick.

[Jack Armstrong]

Why do you have all these carpeted scratching poles back here in the kitchen? No reason.

[Joe Getty]

See, I don't think you're taking this seriously.

[Jack Armstrong]

No reason. What's with all the little balls of yarn and stuff?

[Joe Getty]

Those aren't scratching posts. Those are scrubbers for the, you know, the spatulas. Crap gets into little holes in the spatulas. Anyway, let's go back out front.

[Jack Armstrong]

We do have a serious breaking news thing that Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, has instructed the Israeli Defense Force to immediately carry out powerful strikes in the Gaza Strip. I don't know if that means the ceasefire is over or if that will be received as trying to maintain the ceasefire somehow.

[Joe Getty]

It's still early days, but here's what I've taken away. Number one, obviously Hamas never had any intention of coming to peace. Two, the Arab nations, which had stood up and said, yeah, we'll be part of imposing the peace. When it became clear that now is go time, they're like, yeah, we're in with you in spirit. Let's talk more about this defense Force and who's going to be in it. Well, you're going to be in it. Let's talk about who else is going.

[Jack Armstrong]

To be in it?

[Joe Getty]

So, yeah, they signed the deal because Trump was twisting their arms. But now's the hard part.

[Jack Armstrong]

That seems like it was six years ago.

[Joe Getty]

I know.

[Jack Armstrong]

A week, two weeks.

[Joe Getty]

I don't even know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Two weeks ago.

[Joe Getty]

Lost the ability to sense the passage of time.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I'm like a dog. My wife comes home, I'm like crying with joy. She's like, I just went out to the mailbox. I can no longer sense the passage of time.

[Jack Armstrong]

And now, final thoughts with Armstrong and Getty engage. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

That's a bad imitation of a really out of date reference. All right, let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the show. Michael Angelo, our technical director, will lead us into the future. Michael. Okay, I think I'm the last one on the show. I've got to discover Grok and take family photos and start having him do silly things.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's pretty fun. And it's real easy, too. The learning curve is. There's hardly any learning curve curve at all.

[Joe Getty]

Katie Green, our esteemed, esteemed news woman, has a final thought. Katie, speaking of grock, apparently there's a new character on, on there named Mila and she's quite the bee and she talks back. Oh, really? Yeah, that could be sporty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I need to do that in my car. I'll use this for my final thought. You can change the personality of the person that is your grock.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And mine is like friendly, chummy. I should make more sarcastic and aggressive, see how that works out.

[Joe Getty]

So my final thought is with the remodel I've mentioned many times going on, we're constantly moving our stuff from one area to the other to another room to make room for the painters. And then you got to move the stuff that was in there. I was in. It's like a never ending game of like materialistic musical chairs. I am burning the place down. I am moving to the woods. I will live in a tent. I will have a camp stove and a wall water purifier, period.

[Jack Armstrong]

My actual final thought is how much I enjoyed that baseball game last night. I mean, it was six hours long and I was listening and watching throughout the whole thing and doing other stuff, but man, oh, man, did I enjoy that. That was really fun.

[Joe Getty]

And I'm telling you, you got to do it like soccer. After 12 innings, you have a home run contest or, or something. Or the bat race where you spin around three times and then see who can run the first base, right? Something. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Joe Getty]

I kid. I've lectured other sports. Play till somebody wins. Don't go with some novelty contest. Play till somebody wins. So many people. Thanks a little time. Go to armstrongandgetty.com pick up some Angie swag for your favorite Armstrong and Getty fan. Christmas is approaching rapidly. If you see something we ought to be talking about, some brilliant thinking or writing, send it along. Mailbagarmstrongygetti.com yeah, there's a lot of news.

[Jack Armstrong]

To be made this week in that literature. Looming Trump XI meeting in South Korea. We'll have all that for you. God bless America.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. We covered a lot on today's big, big show from Trump in Asia. His trade deal is a go. Freeman's walk off put the Blue Jays to bail. Those swans that don't talk, just hit them in the head. The Armstrong and get a show. Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is an I heart podcast.