Where's Your Suit?!

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: Where's Your Suit?!
Date: August 18, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty | Notable Guests: Sen. Marco Rubio, Christina Quinn

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the high-stakes, rapidly evolving developments in the Russia-Ukraine conflict, particularly scrutinizing former President Trump's controversial diplomatic approach, the role of European leaders, and the challenge of negotiating with Vladimir Putin. The conversation runs the gamut from global diplomacy and war realities to domestic culture debates, a bizarre James Comey/Taylor Swift moment, and the societal earthquake that AI-driven universal basic income could bring.

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Main Discussion: Russia–Ukraine, Trump, and Western Diplomacy

The Diplomacy Drama and Trump’s Tactics

[03:36–14:43]

• Opening Topic: Analysis of statements by US leaders—including Marco Rubio and President Trump—regarding the evolving negotiations with Russia and Ukraine.

• Rubio's main message: Outsiders don't know the details, and the public leaks and media narratives miss crucial context.

  "They don't know what they're talking about." —Marco Rubio ([03:36])

• Armstrong and Getty discuss how the stakes are enormous on human and geopolitical levels—and why the public is so desperate for clarity.

  “...not just the human, you know, lives in Ukraine and the children being blown apart and making it safe for dictators to gobble up land by force in the 21st century, blah, blah, blah. I mean, there’s a lot here.” —Joe Getty ([04:20])

• They note concern about Trump's lack of condemnation for Putin and the risk this signals.

  “If Trump had said anything, one thing on the side of, hey, you're the evil SOB who started this and you're killing civilians. I mean, anything even close to that... it would be easier to believe that it wasn't capitulation he saw.” —Jack Armstrong ([05:01])

• The hosts debate whether Trump's ambiguity is tactical negotiation or weakness.

  "He shows every sign of capitulating to Putin having been bullied, he's backed down, shows every sign of that. Is that true? I don't know." —Joe Getty ([05:25])

Sanctions, Security Guarantees, and the Reality on the Ground

[05:57–08:26]

• Rubio's argument for holding off sanctions/pressure: Doing so prematurely kills negotiations.

• Notable topic: Reports of Trump discussing a NATO-like security guarantee for Ukraine.

  “A NATO like security, like… here we're signing a document that if… Putin comes back into Ukraine, we got your back. That would be a big deal.” —Jack Armstrong ([06:14])

• Skepticism from the hosts and their take on Ukrainian skepticism of the West’s promises:

  “If I'm Zelinsky, I'm like, will this be just like the agreement back in the day that said you'd ensure our security if we gave up our nuclear arms? Just like that one. Wow, cool.” —Joe Getty ([06:39])

• Rubio asserts it’s up to the Ukrainians to make terms; US is not dictating terms for Ukraine.

  “The United States is not in a position to accept anything or reject anything because ultimately it's up to the Ukrainians. They're the ones that Russia has to make peace with.” —Marco Rubio ([07:39])

• Discussion of whether Ukraine will accept any potential terms, and the moral dilemma they face.

  “There are times in life where you have to fight till you can't fight anymore... there are plenty of people in Ukraine who think, No, we're not going to just give up to quote, unquote, save lives and be conquered by Putin. No, we're going to keep fighting…” —Joe Getty ([08:26])

The Media Narrative & European Leaders

[09:13–11:16]

• Margaret Brennan’s sharp questioning: “Did you just give on everything?”

  “She is an obnoxious horror. The shininess of her legs only, you know, rivaled by the darkness of her soul.” —Joe Getty ([09:25])

• Christina Quinn relays concerns that Zelensky could be bullied into a deal.

• Rubio strongly disputes this, calling the narrative “stupid,” insisting European leaders are at the White House to play an active role, not just to “back up” Zelensky.

  "They're not coming here tomorrow to keep Zelensky from being bullied... We invited them to come. The President invited them to come.” —Marco Rubio ([10:52–11:16])

• Armstrong bluntly disagrees:

  “I think they're a hundred percent here to keep Zelensky from getting bullied...” —Jack Armstrong ([11:16])

Putin, Press Conferences and the ‘Ass-Kissing’ Problem

[12:11–14:44]

• Analysis of the odd, brief Trump press conference and Putin’s odd affirmations toward Trump.

  “Putin comes out and gives a rambling weird speech... Trump talks for like 20 seconds… Trump’s ass, to a large extent, kissing.” —Jack Armstrong ([13:18])

• Deep discomfort that Trump failed to confront or criticize Putin.

  “I wish it had been a nothing burger. It was an aluminum foil and shards of glass burger... I could not have been more unhappy with the ass kissing of Putin and the utter refusal to condemn him.” —Joe Getty ([13:48])

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The War as ‘Meat Grinder’: Realpolitik and Limitations of Power

[14:44–16:17]

• Rubio’s realism about Russia’s brutal war of attrition:

  “They lost 20,000 Russian soldiers were killed last month in July... It’s become attrition in some ways. It’s a meat grinder and they just have more meat to grind.” —Marco Rubio ([14:51])

• Armstrong notes Trump’s realism—however unpalatable—about Russia’s overwhelming size.

  “They are willing to feed people into a meat grinder. They got tons of people. They're bigger than you are.” —Jack Armstrong ([15:31])

• Getty and Armstrong briefly debate why the West/NATO isn’t doing more, citing World War III, escalation risks, and the legitimacy of these concerns.

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Listener Sentiment & Social Media Polls

[21:21–23:41]

• Discussion of audience reactions: Twitter polls and hostile text lines, showing deeply divided feelings on Trump’s diplomacy—split almost 50/50 between thinking it's smart game-playing or backing down.

  “So it’s basically 50:50 on that… The text line for the show is really hateful. I mean you guys have Trumps private so far up your or down your whatever that you can't see straight, that sort of thing.” —Jack Armstrong ([22:22])

• Armstrong and Getty joke about being accused of both Trump-shilling and Trump-bashing, underscoring their independent-mindedness.

  “If you're trying to decide which side are they pandering to? Ah, you've actually figured out the answer to that. Because we don't…” —Joe Getty ([28:00])

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Cultural Whiplash: James Comey & Taylor Swift

[27:54–31:22]

• The hosts react to former FBI director James Comey’s odd, viral “confession” video about his Taylor Swift obsession, described as “creepy” and “bizarre.”

• Extreme confusion over Comey’s tone and timing as it intersects with serious global events.

  “It's legit as weird. Wow, he's a, he's a half a nut.” —Joe Getty ([31:22])

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Culture Wars: NFL Cheerleaders & Gender Norms

[31:53–34:19]

• Armstrong shares a story about the Minnesota Vikings employing tall, effeminate male cheerleaders in female uniforms, sparking commentary on changing gender norms, progressivism in the NFL, and the Minneapolis political landscape.
• Getty riffs on the culture clash in Minneapolis, referencing its fusion of left-wing and Somali Muslim communities.

  “Minneapolis is such... weird red green alliance between like way left Marxists and Muslim fundamentalists… The only thing they agree is they hate America and want to tear it down. Sorry.” —Joe Getty ([33:52])

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Universal Basic Income & AI: The Great Society Reboot?

Silicon Valley’s UBI Fantasies and Concerns

[36:47–49:18]

• The hosts tackle recent pronouncements by AI moguls (Musk, Altman, Benioff) predicting mass unemployment due to AI’s disruptive productivity, with suggested remedies of universal basic income (UBI) or even “universal extreme wealth.”

• They express deep skepticism toward both the practicality and philosophical implications.

  “You're talking about a restructuring of society in a very short period of time. The likes of which has never happened in the history of the world.” —Jack Armstrong ([40:31])

• Getty cynically predicts oligarchs will only share the “bare minimum they can get away with,” with politicians deciding how to distribute the wealth—foreshadowing corruption and inefficiency.

  “They will route it to cronies and keep a fair amount for themselves. It will just be, you know, uncountable scads of money.” —Joe Getty ([48:05])

• MIT economist David Autor’s warning underlined:

  "The hypothetical society in which the majority of income is distributed from a few sources is frightening. In a political fantasy land..." ([48:22])

• Getty champions Marc Andreessen's counterpoint that meaningful work is core to human happiness, and massive UBI risks social malaise.

  "Man was meant to be useful, to be productive, to be proud. And if AI transforms every job, that's going to be a serious, serious challenge." ([48:56])

• Both hosts agree: This is a wild, dangerous idea getting bandied about far too casually.

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Notable Quotes

• On diplomacy and leaks: “They don't know what they're talking about.” —Marco Rubio ([03:36])
• On the brutality of the war: “It’s become attrition in some ways. It’s a meat grinder and they just have more meat to grind.” —Marco Rubio ([14:51])
• On James Comey’s Taylor Swift confession: “It’s legit as weird. Wow, he's a, he's a half a nut.” —Joe Getty ([31:22])
• On UBI and AI revolution: "You're talking about a restructuring of society in a very short period of time. The likes of which has never happened in the history of the world." —Jack Armstrong ([40:31])
• On the show's independent mind: “If you're trying to decide which side are they pandering to? Ah, you've actually figured out the answer to that. Because we don't…” —Joe Getty ([28:00])

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Memorable Moments

• Listener Disagreement: Hosts are openly exasperated by being called both Trump lovers and haters on the same day ([22:59–28:00]).
• Cultural Whiplash: The sudden switch from geopolitics to James Comey's Swifty fandom leaves everyone baffled ([27:54–31:22]).
• Vikings Cheerleaders: The discussion on "blaze chic" and gender norms in the NFL ([31:53–34:19]).
• Armstrong’s UBI Dullard Line: “Maybe I'm just a dullard, but... So if I'm all of a sudden getting a big check... doesn't my company then not need to give me a raise?” ([39:46])

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Segment Timestamps

• [03:36–08:26] – Russia/Ukraine/Trump & Negotiations (Marco Rubio clips & analysis)
• [08:26–14:44] – Negotiation realism, press conference deconstruction, leadership dynamics
• [21:21–23:41] – Listener poll results, public reaction to Trump’s diplomacy
• [27:54–31:22] – James Comey’s Taylor Swift confession and the hosts’ bemused reaction
• [31:53–34:19] – Minnesota Vikings male cheerleading and changing gender norms
• [36:47–49:18] – Universal Basic Income, AI disruption debate
• [45:18 onwards] – AI therapy disaster, return to UBI, closing remarks

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Language and Tone

The hosts combine wry humor with moments of serious exasperation, mockery of media narratives, and deep skepticism toward both political leaders and big tech’s utopian promises. Their banter, sarcasm, and occasionally biting critiques are balanced by a candid willingness to say “I don’t know.”

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Summary

A lively, no-holds-barred episode dissecting the latest Russia-Ukraine diplomatic theater, the unpredictability of Trump’s approach, and the roles of European allies. The hosts intersperse their analysis with pop culture oddities (looking at you, Comey and Taylor Swift), debates over American culture, and a thought-provoking, cautionary conversation about how AI and universal basic income could soon upend society. The Armstrong & Getty team refuse easy answers or partisan scripts, making this discussion equal parts entertaining, bewildering, and troublingly relevant.

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Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Marco Rubio]

The President has said that in terms of territories and stuff, these are things that Zelinsky is going to have to decide on. The people that are out there talking, what they don't know with all these stupid leaks and things of that nature, they all want to just sound important. They don't know what they're talking about.

[Jack Armstrong]

So that was Marco Rubio, Secretary of State and the national security adviser, both. He was on a whole bunch of talk shows yesterday, and his main themes were, this is the very beginning. It's like the opening drive of a golf tournament. And, you know, we'll go from here. You can't come to any conclusions. And then you don't have any idea what you're talking about. You don't know what we discussed. You don't know what we're discussing, what our plans are. A lot of the leaks are wrong. That was his narrative all day long.

[Joe Getty]

Right. And it's difficult to argue with that as it is. I think a lot of us, and I include us in that because of the enormous stakes here, not just the human, you know, lives in Ukraine and the children being blown apart and making it safe for dictators to gobble up land by force in the 21st century, blah, blah, blah. I mean, there's a lot here. So we're very anxious to read tea leaves and want things to go our way, whichever way that is. But often, in fairness, there are ups and downs and ins and outs, and a lot of it we're not aware of.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's all true. But if Trump had said anything, one thing on the side of, hey, you're the evil SOB who started this and you're killing civilians. I mean, anything even close to that.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, at any point, yes, it would.

[Jack Armstrong]

Be easier to believe that it wasn't capitulation he saw.

[Joe Getty]

He shows every sign of capitulating to Putin having Been bullied, he's back down, shows every sign of that. Is that true? I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know either. I hope that's a negotiating thing. It's like I'm gonna take every effort here to make. This is like non damaging's wrong word, but I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

I think I know what you mean. You're just, you're not going to do anything that puts his guard up. You're going to say, oh, that's interesting. Right? Great proposal. Wow. We'll think about that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, we're going to play some more clips. I don't know if they include any of these, include this. But Marco kept saying that, kept saying, what about the sanctions? What about that? This way he said the moment we do that, the negotiations are over. The moment we hit him hard with something, there's still time to do that. But if we do that right up front, then we can't get anywhere. So that, that's his argument. I want, I do want to say this. NBC is reporting that Trump did discuss a NATO like security guarantee for Ukraine with Zelensky and European leaders over the weekend and that that will be some of the topic of the conversation today. A NATO like security, like, you know, here we're signing a document that if, that if he, if Putin comes back into Ukraine, we got your back. That would be a big deal.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. If I'm Zelinsky, I'm like, will this be just like the agreement back in the day that said you'd ensure our security if we gave up our nuclear arms? Just like that one. Wow, cool. I would be saying, yeah, how about you get some guys here, like actually station guys here, which happen. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Great Britain, among others may be talking about that today at the Oval Office with Trump because they're all going to be there anyway. Here's a little more Marco Rubio on the Sunday shows.

[Christina Quinn]

Well, I mean, you know this. Well, how, how long these kind of diplomatic negotiations often take. President Trump was telling European leaders what was discussed was Putin demanding control of Donetsk, a region in the east that his forces do not fully hold. And the UK estimates that taking that full area could be as long as another four years. Putin also is demanding Russian be an official language in Ukraine and something regarding Russian Orthodox churches. Did the US Accept all of what Putin laid out at that table?

[Marco Rubio]

The United States is not in a position to accept anything or reject anything because ultimately it's up to the Ukrainians. They're the ones that Russia has to make peace with.

[Christina Quinn]

Well, the president said he would come to.

[Marco Rubio]

It's up to the Ukrainians to make these conditions. There were some concepts and ideas discussed that we know the Ukrainians could be very supportive of in that meeting. I don't think it's. We're not going to negotiate this in the media. I understand that everybody wants to know what happened. But ultimately, there are things that were discussed as part of this meeting that are potentials for breakthroughs, that are potentials for progress. We'll be discussing that more in depth tomorrow with our European allies, with the Ukrainians that are coming over. We'll be discussing all of these things because ultimately we do need to find areas where we're making progress and try to begin to, you know, narrow the gap between the two sides.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's either true or it's not.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hope it is.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I suspect it is. Whether, you know, the bulk of it is at all acceptable to the Ukrainian people is the big question mark. I mean, there's, I don't mean to be cavalier from a comfortable radio studio, but there are times in life where you have to fight till you can't fight anymore. That's why the boxer just keeps getting up and getting knocked down again, because he thinks, I'm not going to stop fighting till I'm defeated, even though it's looking very bad. And there are plenty of people in Ukraine who think, no, we're not going to just give up to quote, unquote, save lives and be conquered by Putin. No, we're going to keep fighting even if we've got to keep fighting until we're defeated. Otherwise, how do we live with ourselves? What do we tell our children? And we'll just have to see how all that plays out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I didn't like the way Friday looked, but Marco Bren, Mark, what's her name? Margaret Brennan's question there, did you just give on everything? What are you basing that on? I mean, what are you basing that on?

[Joe Getty]

She is an obnoxious horror. The shininess of her legs only, you know, rivaled by the darkness of her soul.

[Jack Armstrong]

I hate to fall into the trap, something I hate to fall into the trap that everybody does of playing the most spicy clip, even though it's not the most important. But this questioning about why the European leaders are to the White House today, they got into that conversation.

[Christina Quinn]

President Trump told Fox News his advice to President Zelinsky is make a deal. Russia's a very big power and they're not, you know, there is concern from the Europeans that President Zelensky is going to be bullied into signing something away. That's why you have these European leaders coming as backup tomorrow.

[Marco Rubio]

Can you notice? That's not why they're coming us back. That's not true. But that's not why. That's not true. They're not coming here tomorrow to keep Zelensky from being bullied. They're not coming here tomorrow. They're coming here tomorrow.

[Christina Quinn]

Television cameras where President Zelensky.

[Marco Rubio]

Do you know how many meetings we've had since then?

[Christina Quinn]

Oh, no, I know. And I was just up in Alaska. I've seen the one with Vladimir Putin where a red carpet rolls.

[Marco Rubio]

No, but Zelensky. We've had more meetings. We've had one meeting with Putin and, like a dozen meetings with Zelenskyy, so. But that's not true. They're not coming here tomorrow to keep Zelenskyy from being bullied. They're coming here tomorrow because we've been working with the Europeans. Last week, there were meetings in the UK over the previous weekend and they.

[Christina Quinn]

Said President was going to demand his.

[Marco Rubio]

Ceasefire as early as Thursday. But you said that they're coming here tomorrow to keep Zelensky from being bullied. They're not coming here tomorrow. This is such a stupid media narrative that they're coming here tomorrow because Trump is going to bully Zelensky into a bad deal. We've been working with these people for weeks, for weeks on this stuff. They're coming here tomorrow because they chose to come here tomorrow. We invited them to come. We invited them to come. The President invited them to come.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think they're a hundred percent here to keep Zelensky from getting bullied and.

[Joe Getty]

Or steamrolled. Yeah. Yeah. Although, you know, if you want to put it a little more diplomatically, they're there to represent the European point of view. Yeah. And interests which are more acute, more immediate than ours as a nation.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. It's not the only reason they're here.

[Joe Getty]

Sure. But it's part of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

It'd be pretty hard to put together a deal that didn't include the European leaders because we're not putting boots on the ground. But Britain and Germany, for instance, have talked about it. You see, you can't make those decisions without them in the room. Trump's meeting one on one with Zelensky. Well, J.D. vance and Trump are meeting with Zelensky. Where's your suit? And then they're meeting with the European leaders later.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

God dang it. This could be so crazy today. I have no idea how it's gonna go. So Trump did. I've got, we probably have the clip. He said over the weekend that President Xi said. Told him, she told Trump, according to Trump, that he would not invade Taiwan as long as Trump was president. And Trump said, well, I don't know about that, but that's what he told me.

[Joe Getty]

It's because they got a five year timetable. And if I understand the United States running dogs of capitalist system, you're, you're termed out. So, yeah, we got a five year plan. You're out in three years. So, yeah, don't worry about it. I mean, it might be as simple as that. I mean, Trump wants to portray it as. He doesn't dare. Because I'm such a hard ass. No, it's just. They're just not ready. They're getting their ducks in a row. How about giant militarized drone ducks? Yes. So a lot of the world like.

[Jack Armstrong]

Myself, scheduled their day on Friday around that press conference, because I wanted to see that.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And when it actually was happening, I thought they skipped the lunch. Okay, what happened? They skipped the lunch. They blew it. The lunch has been canceled. They're coming out to talk. Putin comes out and gives a rambling weird speech about a bunch of different stuff. Trump talks for like 20 seconds.

[Joe Getty]

Trump's ass, to a large extent, kissing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trump's asking, but how about that stuff from Putin saying the, you know, and I think you won the 2020 election and this war wouldn't have happened if you had been president. I mean, what, what is that?

[Joe Getty]

And then Trump with it going on and on about the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax. I don't. It was. Yeah, everybody was excited about it. We all were watching it. We were trading texts and stuff like that. I wish it had been a nothing burger. It was an aluminum foil and shards of glass burger. A nothing burger would have been way better. But again, it might be a step in the road towards something that's about as good as it can get. I don't know. I was horrified by it. Second by it. I, you know, I, Yeah, I could not have been more unhappy with the ass kissing of truth Putin and the utter refusal to condemn him. Well, let me. But, you know, the proof is in the pudding. The, the process is underway. You know, the case is afoot and the results are what matter. And Trump has some weird methods.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, the results are what, what, what's matter? And we should judge it by that at the end. But play 67 for me because this is a point Rubio is making over.

[Marco Rubio]

And over you talk about the intensifying strikes on the Russian side. Yeah, I mean, they're full time war machine. I mean, that's what's happening. The Russian economy's basically been turned into a full time wartime economy. They have a lot of people. It's a big country. It's not just large geographically. It has huge populations. It continues to churn through people. You know, they lost 20,000 Russian soldiers were killed last month in July. In this war. That just tells you the price they're willing to pay. Not saying any of this is admirable. I'm saying that this is the reality of the war that we're facing. It's become attrition in some ways. It's a meat grinder and they just have more meat to grind.

[Joe Getty]

So then that is some really good realism. Well, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And Trump saying to Zelinsky, look, they're a big country. You're not. I mean, again, that's not. You might not like it. You might wish it were true. It might be. Might suck to have to say those words. But they are willing to feed people into a meat grinder. They got tons of people. They're bigger than you are.

[Joe Getty]

Got more meat. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

What do you do with.

[Joe Getty]

Zelinsky's response would be he's an evildoer. That's upsetting. All of the norms you've said are important. Why don't you help us more?

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, so that is the other set. That's something that Marco Rubio didn't get into yesterday. And I don't think he was pushed. Well, on. Well, yeah, they're a little country, but if they were backed up by NATO and or the United States, they could take on Russia. So why aren't we doing that?

[Joe Getty]

Or it wouldn't be necessary. Because Putin wouldn't want that fight. Right, right. But it's, you know, blah, blah, blah, World War iii, nuclear power, escalation, not our fight. All those are legitimate concerns. Absolutely legitimate.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure. Your thoughts on this text line? 4, 1, 5. Oh.

[Joe Getty]

It'S. It's covered. Probably covered.

[Jack Armstrong]

Pooping cough.

[Joe Getty]

My wife went to the doctor. She's got an upper respiratory thing. They insisted on checking her for Covid. She's like, yeah, that's coronavirus. She's like, who cares if I have Covid? What does it matter?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's interesting. When I had whooping cough, they never checked me for covet at any point. Gonorrhea could be gonorrhea for me, not her.

[Joe Getty]

I can see that. Yeah. Most likely.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. Our text line is 415295, KFTC Armstrong.

[Joe Getty]

And Gettysburg.

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[Joe Getty]

An elephant in India ran toward a man who tried to take a selfie with the beast. Scientists say it's the first instance of Rosie o' Donnell going after a.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, Greg. I don't think I've ever heard of.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anybody who traffics in ugly or fat jokes more than Greg Gutfeld.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, man.

[Marco Rubio]

So.

[Jack Armstrong]

We'Re trying to get a handle on where y' all are. Not that that informs my opinion on this whole Russia, Ukraine thing. I'm just interested in where you all are. Like. Jo put out a poll on. Was it Friday? Did you put the poll out on Twitter? What were your choices?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, your reaction to the summit meeting in Alaska? Let's see. I worded them carefully, so I want to make sure I can get this right. Here we go. Trump said cease fire or severe consequences. And I will be very unhappy. No, no. Ceasefire, flattery and press conference and no consequences yet. Pick your headline. Choice one, Donald Trump keeps deal alive. It's smart. Headline two. Fake tough guy backs down. And the first much more complimentary one. 151 to 49. Hundreds of votes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. So it's basically 50. 50 on that. I threw out a. I just said I'm really. This was on Friday. I'm really disappointed in the way this turned out. Explaining me while I'm wrong, basically. And there was a fair amount that agreed with me in disappointment and then a fair amount that. It's a long game, it's a strategy. It's a this and that, which it might be for all I know. The text line for the show is really hateful. I mean you guys have Trumps private so far up your or down your whatever that you can't see straight, that sort of thing.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, so it's anti Trump people who are berating us.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's funny.

[Joe Getty]

I assumed it was pro Trump people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, at least on the tax line.

[Joe Getty]

Funny.

[Jack Armstrong]

Mostly you'll do anything to shill for the Trump administration, so.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I hope you get help with your hearing loss because that can be a devastating, you know, condition.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I think I've been definitely mostly on the side of extreme disappointment with Friday.

[Joe Getty]

I I don't know, I heard a lot of ass kissing myself. That's the way I interpreted your obsequious belly showing remarks. You know, just trying to be diplomatic here.

[Jack Armstrong]

So anyways, trying to figure out where you all are on that so you can feel free to text or email, but we'll have a lot more clarity today. What happened in the last 72 hours probably is going to be not matter at all after today because there'll be a lot of movement with European leaders and Zelensky there at the White House. Got a lot more on the way. If you missed a segment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand Armstrong.

[Joe Getty]

And Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Katie didn't tell us the full story about the Minnesota Vikings cheerleaders. Stay tuned.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, oh, is she keeping key facts back?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Hiding them, as it were?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, don't look. All incident, all innocent. Katie.

[Jack Armstrong]

Easy for you to say.

[Joe Getty]

All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, more on that to come. What else? There was something else I was going to say. I can't Remember, it doesn't matter. Oh, that's right. So, you know, just talking about the angst of some of the good folks, about whether we were busy servicing Trump in a way that should only be done by his wives and paramours or whether indeed we're anti Trump lunatics and we've been accused of both. Like in the last 15 minutes of number one, if you're trying to decide which side are they pandering to? Ah, you've actually figured out the answer to that. Because we don't. Secondly, it's okay if we disagree sometimes. Can you imagine agreeing with somebody a hundred percent of the time? They're not being honest with you. They're pandering. It's not what we do. So anyway, hope you can have a little patience with us for that. All right. Having said that, of all the things in the last day, the last week, last month that have made you say, what the hell, this might be the what the helliest of them. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you former head of the FBI, framer of Donald Trump, propagator of the Russia hoax, James Comey. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to my substack. Last week's cold turns out to have been Covid quite a flashback. And Donald Trump is still president and still humiliating America on a national stage standing next to Vladimir Putin. It's like a dream, a bad dream you can't wake up from. But I don't want to talk about that bad dream this week. I want to talk about a truly inspirational public figure named Taylor Swift. Of course, I watched her podcast interview.

[Marco Rubio]

With the Kelce Brothers.

[Joe Getty]

Of course, I watched the whole thing, although on YouTube, Patrice and I got kicked off for the last 15 minutes and finished it on her phone. But I watched it.

[Marco Rubio]

You see, Taylor Swift and I go way back.

[Joe Getty]

I went to my first concert of hers 15 years ago. What I've been to a second and I have helped financially support the attendance of a lot of family members. At others, I'm in a family's Swifty group chat. I know all her music, and I listen to it in my headphones when I cut the grass. There's more. It goes on for a couple more minutes.

[Jack Armstrong]

What the hell? That's James Comey. Are we sure that's not AI?

[Joe Getty]

I'd seen headlines slash stories about it in other places that I think would have known better or he would have pushed back. Sure look like him.

[Jack Armstrong]

He would have come out by now and said that wasn't him.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, I would agree. Wow. That's if Anybody has any evidence that it is AI. I mean, that would be even more interesting than whatever the hell that just.

[Jack Armstrong]

Was, the way he said certain things. I've contributed to the financial efforts of some family members to support Taylor Swift. You mean you bought tickets for your kids?

[Joe Getty]

I mean. New York Times ex FBI director James Comey makes bizarre confession. Fox News. James Comey raves about Taylor Swift in bizarre video. The Daily Beast MAGA melts down over James Comey's creepy Taylor Swift video. Even they being lefties are like, yeah, that was weird and creepy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, yeah, so I don't, you know, he likes Taylor Swift. Whatever. I don't care what kind of music other people like. But the, like the, the juxtaposition of that with Trump and Putin and everything is so weird. What is he. What was the point of that?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, Conservatives mock Comey over Taylor Swift video. That's the Hill. Yeah, it's. It's legit as weird. Wow, he's a, He's a half a nut. Oh, yeah, yeah. Absolutely true.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, Katie, you gotta explain this. So Katie had in her headlines, I think last week something about there are a couple of male cheerleaders from the Minnesota Vikings. And I remember at the time, Am I making this up? You didn't have that story?

[Joe Getty]

I. I had a story about people were mad. Oh. It was an email that there were a couple of gay fellers that were being Minnesota Vikings cheerleaders. And the emailer was saying, look, you didn't care about the Vikings cheerleaders before. Don't start caring about them now. Worry about things that matter.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, well, wherever the story came from. So I was just thinking, why is this a thing? There's always been males cheerleaders. They're usually like, like really stocky, athletic looking dudes that look like they were probably gymnasts that can, you know, hoist the girls and flip them up in the air and catch them in that sort of stuff. That's not really a new thing. No.

[Joe Getty]

I had a good friend in college who was. Was one of those guys. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

These male cheerleaders from the Minnesota Vikings are tall, skinny, effeminate, long haired, wearing the girls outfits. Cheerleaders.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, gender bending madness.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. What the hell? I mean, you know, you do.

[Joe Getty]

You so woke the Minneapolis metro area.

[Jack Armstrong]

You do you. But I'm just surprised for the NFL that they went with the. I mean, they're not, they don't say they're specifically transgender, although they look like they could be Blaze.

[Joe Getty]

They're dudes dressed as women. Blaze Chic. Really?

[Jack Armstrong]

And as one person and yeah. And they.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, Liberace is in heaven saying that's too gay. Too blaze chic. You gotta rein it in.

[Jack Armstrong]

You think Liberace's in heaven? Not in my heaven. He's not.

[Joe Getty]

Fine. Not going there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. So I just thought, man, they went really far there at the. I know. I realize Minnesota is a very progressive town, but NFL fans generally aren't.

[Joe Getty]

Right. Well, Minneapolis is such. Is that weird red green alliance between like way left Marxists and Muslim fundamentalists, mostly from Somalia. The only thing they agree is they hate America and want to tear it down. Sorry.

[Jack Armstrong]

That.

[Joe Getty]

I'm going to do it with the help of two lanky dressed as male women. Or women, whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I drug. Sorry, I drug you into this, Katie. For some reason I thought you were involved in this story.

[Christina Quinn]

Sorry.

[Joe Getty]

I'll get over it. Oh, Katie, you know what you need to hear. You're gonna find this so sweet. So we're going to London next week. I will be off. Please forgive me. Judy and I, we haven't really done much for a long time. And so we're doing a vacation in London and we got to have somebody take care of our dog. Well, our friend, I'm gonna say I'm gonna call him Don. Our friend Don, who like, loves dogs. Beyond loving dogs. When he was divorced, he and his dog, it was just the two of them living in rural Wyoming. Okay. Out in the middle of nowhere. They were close. Well, he lost his beloved dog a couple of months ago. He passed on and they volunteered to take care of Baxter for the week. Were gone. And so we brought Backsy over to the house and had dinner and stuff to introduce him and show him around the house and all. Oh, my. They're not gonna give him back. Oh, that's. Oh, my God. Did they bond? And the two of them were like fast friends.

[Jack Armstrong]

And oh, wow.

[Joe Getty]

My buddy Don, he just. Oh, he was so happy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, it's more from the dog's perspective. I think when you come back, Baxter's gonna say, you guys.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, you. That like makes me do stuff. And you, you give me commands and stuff. I get nothing but love here. Nothing but love.

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[Jack Armstrong]

You bully.

[Joe Getty]

Telling me to sit and wait to eat until you say it's okay. I'm staying here. Yeah, probably so. But anyway. Oh, it was so sweet. Anyway, I love that. Yeah, I know. Katie's a famous dog lover.

[Jack Armstrong]

By the way, a couple of non Ukraine Russia related news items for you Mayor Adams of New York slams Mamdani for wanting to decriminalize prostitution. I don't know where in his Quran it states that that's okay. Oh, how do you like that?

[Joe Getty]

Well see that's the thing. The Marxists and the Islamists is an unholy alliance. Pun intended.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that aside, Mayor Adams finding a way to work in. He wants prostitution to be illegal and takes a shot at his being a Muslim at the same time. Time worse. I mean, that was pretty clever that, that race is not over. That's exciting stuff.

[Joe Getty]

No, the knives have just now come out from Mumdani. Really? So totally different topic. Musk, Altman and other. All the other super heavyweights of AI are now getting together. Well, not getting together exactly, but they're all talking about how universal basic income is a really good idea. And that when AI unleashes just mountains of profit, but you know, inconveniently renders millions of people unemployable, they are willing to share the wealth and we will probably have a major universal basic income system.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think you said this a week or so ago. Well, how's the math work on that? So, so these companies become incredibly productive. They're not going to voluntarily give this money over to the guaranteed income program. So is the government going to tax you if you use AI at a different rate or.

[Joe Getty]

No, I think it's, it's that these companies. Let me, let me just read you this and see if that answered your question. Then I've got an answer. While many of, while many people think of ubi, that's Universal Basic income is a taxpayer funded system. Silicon Valley's elite elite envision AI doing humans work from mundane factory jobs to highly skilled white collar rolls and funding payouts through cost savings and more revenue. Tech leaders say that revenue can be shared under a massive wealth redistribution system. Essentially there are going to be so few people running these companies making such astounding mountains of money that they're willing to share a significant chunk of to keep the populace from going berserk. Because you know, so many people are going to be out of work.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, that's nice words. They're going to share how much with.

[Joe Getty]

Who distributed how well, the bare minimum they can get away with through the filter of government, which will enrich bureaucrats and fat cats and takers, not makers. And the rest of us will get a pittance after the oligarchs have taken their share.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well like, and then do they hand out the money to everyone? I mean like if I'M unemployed. I can say, you know, I would have a job over there if it weren't for AI, give me a check. Whereas I'm working. Me, Jack Armstrong. I'm working. Why don't I. I'm not getting any of that because I already have a job.

[Joe Getty]

So isn't that going to motivate people?

[Jack Armstrong]

I wouldn't quit this job, but wouldn't let that motivate some people who have jobs. They don't particularly like to quit them.

[Joe Getty]

And claim, I don't know that this is how it's going to come out. But you're forgetting the universal part of universal basic income. Everybody gets it. Everybody gets it. Flat fee.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't. I really don't see how this works.

[Joe Getty]

Altman said, isn't that okay?

[Jack Armstrong]

There are so many questions I have here. Maybe I'm just a dullard, but. So if I'm all of a sudden getting a big check from universal income that keeps my life going, doesn't my company then not need to give me a raise or starts hiring people at.

[Joe Getty]

Lower salaries because a chunk of it's.

[Jack Armstrong]

Picked up by the government.

[Joe Getty]

With the universal income, I think the gainfully employed will be such a minority, folks like you will be an afterthought. Wow. In your scenario. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

So Altman, old Sam Altman of OpenAI chat GPT fame. He was on Theo Vaughn's podcast. He now thinks that instead of money, everyone could receive an ownership share in whatever AI creates. That would allow the wealth accumulated by AI to be spread across the population. Calling the idea universal extreme.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're talking about a restructuring of society in a very short period of time. The likes of which has never happened in the history of the world.

[Joe Getty]

Correct? Yes. It's a brave new world. He imagined a scenario in which every human is giving a given a trillion tokens. Oh, there's more to hate here. The basic unit of information that large language models use each year. You can sell it or treat it as personal wealth. Wealth is an alternative to all wealth being consolidated in the normal capitalistic system.

[Jack Armstrong]

He says, okay, okay, this is just. This is too much too fast. This is never going to happen.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Actually there the labor. There's a labor economist in MIT called it frightening in a political fantasy land. There's more to this discussion. We ought to maybe bring it over to the next on the other side of the break.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I would like to talk more about it. I wonder if they're just not throwing out half brained ideas because they got to have something to say. To push back against when everybody's gonna be out of work. Okay, we got a lot on the way. Wow, that is really, really interesting. Stay tuned.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Christina Quinn]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Got a horrible story, maybe we'll get to later about this little girl who's using chat GPT. Little girl. She was young, using chat GPT for therapy and ended up killing herself. And now mom's trying to sue somebody about therapy or something.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, they've really got to work out that whole. It encourages you and is supportive of you, even if you're, like, delusional or terribly depressed. Hey, you're right. Nobody does like you if you say you're worthless. I'm wor. I'm with you, you know. No, you gotta tweak that, Sam. So Sam Altman of OpenAI, speaking of which, as we were discussing, he's been making the rounds, talking to various folks about how AI is going to create just ginormous amounts of wealth, but also put scads of people out of work. And so he's pushing something. It's like universal basic income, but he calls it universal extreme wealth that everybody will just get the outflow of wealth from this technological marvel he and others are designing.

[Jack Armstrong]

I like how blase they are about restructuring society in ways nobody has ever done in like six months from now.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, yeah, turning us all into the idle rich. And then it'll just be grand and marvy. Think about the rich kids, you know, that have been on trust funds their whole lives. They've all got wonderful lives of happiness and productivity, Right? Elon Musk touts universal high income, the concept that AI will automate most production and the public can Share in the revenue. Marc Benioff, CEO of Salesforce, says up to half of the work at the company is now done by AI.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

He is an evangelist for Universal Basic Income and said during the pandemic that he sees COVID 19 stimulus checks as a model for broader income distribution. Wow, Mark, do you even read the news?

[Jack Armstrong]

But. So you emphasized the you and Universal. I wasn't picturing that. So we're all going to get a chunk of the money? Well, then how about it's not going.

[Joe Getty]

To be welfare, it's just going to float everybody, but.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, fine, but if you don't have a job that was affected by AI, I'm assuming this is enough to live on, is the point they're making. I mean, right? So if. If you don't have a job affected by AI, why would you keep working your job? Won't everybody quit?

[Joe Getty]

Well, see, that's the thing. Benioff actually sees it as more of a welfare program. He wrote that automation will drive income inequality, one of the most overused and stupid terms anywhere, and necessitate supplemental income, quote, for those who cannot be retrained and even those traditionally not compensated for raising family or volunteering to help others. In other words, a massive amount of wealth will be available and politicians will decide who gets what. They will route it to cronies and keep a fair amount for themselves. It will just be, you know, uncountable scads of money. Now, there are critics. Not all of Silicon Valley is on board. Here's David Autor, labor economist at mit, said the hypothetical society in which the majority of income is distributed from a few sources is frightening. In a political fantasy land, AI leaders support universal income because, quote, they think they're going to put everyone out of work, and they don't have a better idea for what to do about that. He said this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, this is a. That's a. This whole thing you've described is completely unworkable in any realistic sense. So I. Is anybody thinking about this? Is Congress thinking about this? They should be, if they're not.

[Joe Getty]

Interestingly, venture capitalist Marc Andreessen is my man in this. He says that man was meant to be useful, to be productive, to be proud. And if AI transforms every job, that's going to be a serious, serious challenge.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's the world's biggest understatement. Serious challenge.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'd say maybe the end of mankind might be closer. All right, if you miss a segment or an hour, get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on Demand.

[Christina Quinn]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Ah, come on.

[Christina Quinn]

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