Whiz It Out

Summary

Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand – "Whiz It Out"

Date: December 2, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Notable Guest: Mike Lyons (Military Analyst)

---

Episode Overview

This episode opens with the Armstrong & Getty team diving into the ongoing controversy around recent U.S. military strikes off the coast of Venezuela, questions about legality and military professionalism, and the political fallout for Secretary Pete Hegseth. Military analyst Mike Lyons joins to provide context and perspective. The discussion shifts to the Ukraine war "freeze" proposal and its historical parallels, before moving on to concerns about supplement fraud on Amazon, a viral NFL field goal gaffe, and the IRS's awkward attempt to define pornography for tip-tax purposes. Light-hearted commentary on bizarre foot fetishes, awkward workplace dynamics, tips on fantasy sports, and a sharp critique of Europe’s energy policy rounds out the episode.

---

In-Depth Discussion Points & Insights

1. Venezuela Boat Strike Controversy: Military Conduct & Political Backlash

[02:43 - 10:33]

• Context:
  Armstrong & Getty discuss a controversial military operation involving multiple strikes on a vessel off the coast of Venezuela, with political attention sharply focused on Secretary Pete Hegseth’s involvement.
• Mike Lyons’ Take:
  • The episode is being used as a political tool, with intense civilian scrutiny on what is usually standard military procedure.
  • There's historical precedent for "double tap" strikes; the current attention is driven more by politics than a change in military conduct.
  • Quote:
    "This mission is being so scrutinized...I can give you multiple examples of previous missions...but for now, it's reached this hyperbolic boiling point." — Mike Lyons [04:31]
  • Lyons insists these were legal, military targets, and that seasoned professionals would not have fired on illegal targets.
• Hosts’ Reflections:
  • Armstrong wonders if things are getting “way too lawyerly” compared to past conflicts.
  • Lyons says all actions were within the rules once the targets were declared military threats, emphasizing that accountability extends down the chain of command, not just to Hegseth.

2. Historical & Legal Context: War Crimes and Targeting Survivors

[06:33 - 10:33]

• Getty:
  Raises the issue of international law regarding attacks on shipwreck survivors.
• Lyons:
  • Argues context is everything — these were declared legal targets, not helpless survivors.
  • Stresses there’s no evidence of intentional war crimes; much of the debate reflects political agendas.
  • Quote:
    “Nobody in the military is committing war crimes, which is where this has gone to.”— Mike Lyons [05:21]
• Political Motives:
  Both hosts and Lyons agree that recent timing, Congressional actions, and media maneuvering strongly suggest these hearings are as much about "getting" Hegseth as about actual misconduct.

3. Ukraine “Freeze”: Armistice or Appeasement?

[10:33 – 13:57]

• Lyons’ RealClear Defense Piece:
  • Frames the proposed Ukraine deal as a “Korean-style armistice”—not a true peace, just a freeze likely to tee up future conflict.
  • Without NATO security guarantees, Ukraine would risk being unable to defend itself if the conflict restarts.
  • Quote:
    “It’s Korea, 1953—will create a DMZ...but it can always be restarted. I just don’t believe this is good for long-term Eastern Europe.”— Mike Lyons [11:13]
• Technological Race:
  • Russian advances in drone technology have leveled the battlefield with Ukraine, highlighting the need for ongoing innovation.
• Getty’s Concern:
  • Unlike Korea, proposed terms would leave Ukraine “more or less disarmed”—ripe for a future Russian offensive.

4. Buyer Beware: Amazon Supplements Exposed

[20:31 – 23:36]

• Consumer Lab Investigations:
  • About 50% of Amazon's top supplements tested contained little or none of the labeled ingredients.
  • Almost all failed products came from overseas sellers, especially China.
  • Quote:
    “Half the supplements tested were effectively fakes... many contained none or almost none of what the label promised.”— Joe Getty [21:23]
• Host Reactions:
  • Strong advice to stick to reputable domestic brands.
  • Amusing aside about placebo effects: Armstrong is "pro-placebo" if it works for you.

5. Viral NFL Gaffe: The Missed Field Goal

[23:41 – 31:45]

• Play Description:
  • A Giants kicker faceplants spectacularly, missing the ball by a foot during a field goal attempt; hosts dissect the comic tragedy.
  • Getty:
    "He hit a foot, foot and a half behind the ball... never even scared the ball." [28:23]
• Social Media Reaction:
  • Both hosts marvel at how even elite pros can have such awkward moments. Advice: Lean into the meme and cash in with endorsements.

6. IRS, Digital Tips, and Pornography: Drawing the Line

[32:06 – 44:07]

• IRS Rulemaking:
  • New tax law for tips excludes sex work and pornography, but the IRS is struggling to define where the line is—does, for example, foot fetish content qualify?
• Hosts’ Banter:
  • Armstrong is mystified by foot fetishes; Getty is “foot neutral.”
  • Discussion on awkward workplace dynamics when foot interests become obvious.
  • Quote:
    "If she showed up in open-toed sandals... everyone’s going to be checking you out today." — Jack Armstrong [34:31]
• Legal Gray Areas:
  • Hosts speculate, with some hilarity, about judges being forced to rule on whether showing feet, doing yoga in tights, or topless content constitutes "pornographic activity" for tax purposes.

7. Europe’s Green Energy Gamble Backfires

[44:07 – 47:39]

• Europe’s Experience:
  • Despite big cuts in carbon emissions, residents face electricity rates up to four times higher than the U.S.
  • Getty:
    “Germany now has the highest domestic electricity prices in the developed world.” [46:54]
• Consequences:
  • Sky-high prices hurt industry, drive volatility, and deter AI or other key sectors from investing in Europe.

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Mike Lyons (on Venezuela strike):
  "Once they are approved legal... it's pretty hard to bring that Hellfire missile back." [05:15]
• Jack Armstrong (on supplement placebo):
  "If I think it works and it made me feel better, I'm 100%, I'll pay for it." [22:04]
• On the field goal blunder:
  "If you do that in junior high, everyone would laugh at you and they would wonder why did you ever think you could kick a football?" — Armstrong [28:16]
• On IRS and foot fetishes:
  "Do you look at yours every day and go, ew, keep them away from people?" — Getty [33:47]
• On Europe’s energy plight:
  "The poor Euros, having learned three or four languages, got screwed." — Getty [44:55]

---

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Venezuela Strike Controversy & Military Ethics: 02:43 – 10:33
• Ukraine "Freeze" Deal & Military Implications: 10:33 – 13:57
• Amazon Supplement Fraud: 20:31 – 23:36
• Viral NFL Missed Field Goal: 23:41 – 31:45
• IRS, Digital Content, and Defining Porn: 32:06 – 44:07
• Europe’s Energy Backfire: 44:07 – 47:39

---

Tone & Language

The hosts maintain their trademark mix of pointed inquiry, irreverent commentary, and dry wit. Mike Lyons brings clear, military-informed expertise, steering discussions away from sensationalism back to context and operational realities. Throughout, Armstrong & Getty balance skepticism and snark, particularly when poking fun at supplement fads, foot fetishes, or field goal debacles. The episode offers sharp, insightful, and often humorous takes on the major stories of the week.

Transcript

[Steffi]

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.

[Jack Armstrong]

It never happens at a good time. The pipe bursts at midnight. The heater quits on the coldest night. Suddenly you're overwhelmed. That's when HomeServ is here for $4.99 a month, you're never alone. Just call their 24. 7 hotline and a local pro is on the way. Trusted by millions, HomeServe delivers peace of mind when you need it most. For plants Starting at just $4.99 a month, go go to homeserve.com that's homeserve.com not available everywhere. Most plans range between $4.99 to $11.99 a month. Your first year terms apply on covered repairs.

[Steffi]

Hey, I'm Steffi. I go big for the holidays, so I'm going to Famous footwear. With over 800 stores, you're never far from the perfect gift. So make your list and make it famous. Buy one pair. Get one half off@famous footwear or famous.com Some exclusions apply.

[Jacob Goldstein]

This is Jacob Goldstein from what's yous Problem? Business software is expensive, and when you buy software from lots of different companies, it's not only expensive, it gets confusing. Slow to use, hard to integrate. Odoo solves that, because all Odoo software is connected on a single affordable platform. Save money without missing out on the features you need. Odoo has no hidden costs and no limit on features or data. Odoo has over 60 apps available for any needs your business might have, all at no additional charge. Everything from websites to sales to inventory to accounting, all linked and talking to each other. Check out [e-mail] that's o d o.

[CarMax Announcer]

O.Com Want to sell your car your way?

[Pandora Jewelry Spokesperson]

Who wouldn't?

[CarMax Announcer]

That's why CarMax offers a car selling experience designed just for you with online and in store options. Want to know what your car is worth? Quickly? Get an online offer in under two minutes. Want to think it over? You use OfferWatch to keep tabs on your car's value over time. Plus, CarMax offers flexible selling options with express drop off in store or pickup at home. Selling your car is in your control with CarMax. Want to drive CarMax pickup? Not available everywhere. Restrictions and fee may apply. See carmax.com for details.

[Steffi]

It's the season to come together over your holiday favorites at Starbucks, warm up with a creamy caramel brulee latte, get festive with an iced gingerbread chai, or share a velvety peppermint mocha together is the best place to be at Starbucks.

[Joe Getty]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center.

[Steffi]

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Mike Lyons]

Find out what happened when and.

[Jacob Goldstein]

You.

[Jack Armstrong]

Know, what orders were given.

[Mike Lyons]

I think all the, all the particulars.

[Jack Armstrong]

You want to know what the facts.

[Mike Lyons]

Are and then you want to compare that with the relevant and figure out, you know, procedurally, you know, what's the, you know, the correct lawful way to do things and determine whether or not that everything was followed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of course, we're talking about the second strike on the boat. Turns out second, third and fourth, maybe strikes on the boat off the coast of Venezuela and whether or not Pete.

[Joe Getty]

Hegseth ordered it or not, and exactly what was ordered, when, by whom, and whether it was legal. It's worth noting that voice you heard was Senator John Thune, the Republican leader of the Senate.

[Jack Armstrong]

The very latest is from the New York Times, citing five U.S. officials today that Hegseth called for the original strike but did not specify what should happen if survivors remained. And then Admiral Frank Bradley, who you've now heard his name a lot, ultimately signed off on the initial strike and several follow up strikes that killed 11 people. Okay.

[Joe Getty]

Interesting. To gain a little perspective, we have invited on the terrific Mike Lyons, military analyst, who is also, I was happy to see, writing for Real Clear Defense, including a great piece about the possible Ukraine deal, which we'll touch on in a minute. But first, Mike, welcome. How are you?

[Mike Lyons]

Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for having me back.

[Joe Getty]

Trust you and the family. Had a great Thanksgiving. Good to talk to you.

[Mike Lyons]

Yeah, it was good. I didn't have my son home and my daughter home, but hopefully we'll get him at Christmas time at this point. So. Looking forward to that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Onto that part of life. Yeah. So, Mike, let's talk a little bit about your impressions of the, you know, what is known thus far about the alleged targeting of survivors. What do you think?

[Mike Lyons]

Yeah, you know, so I've worded this story for a while because I just thought of it as 100% politics. That video that was released, I guess 10 days ago, almost two weeks ago by the congressmen and senators over, you know, not obeying legal orders. I thought that pierced this veil between the military and the civilians like I've never seen before and set this path on to where I think we are today. And the fact that this mission is being so scrutinized because I can give you multiple examples of previous missions that and people have testified in front of Congress about these kinds of double taps that we've done in the past. But for now, it's now reached this hyperbolic boiling point over what's going on here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Let's make sure we understand what you're saying there. Are you saying the sort of thing that is being alleged here happens regularly?

[Mike Lyons]

Well, no. First of all, nobody in the military is committing war crimes, which is where this has gone to. It's gone to, you know, we're murdering people that are hanging off of, you know, ship parts in the Caribbean or the Pacific or wherever the mission was. I mean, you know, it's not like Robinson Crusoe or Rose hanging off the side of the Titanic here. I mean, it's insane that we're still having this conversation. This is a military target that the initial target was approved legally and the target is to be destroyed and destroyed means destroyed. And so if the first target hits and there are still survivors and there's still a target in the water, well, those survivors were still part of the original target to begin with. So they are legal targets as well. But this is all about context. It's all about what, you know, what people want to view and they want. How they want to see this. And from my perspective, it's a shame. Now, we've seen the Secretary of Defense throw this over to the SOCOM commander, and this admiral now will testify in front of Congress. But these missions go on all the time. They're approved, legal. And once they are approved legal and they start, it's pretty hard to bring that Hellfire missile back.

[Joe Getty]

So there's a pretty good history, including the Nuremberg trials, of prosecutions for targeting survivors of an attack on a ship who no longer posed any threat. Are you saying this doesn't apply here or that's wrong or what?

[Mike Lyons]

Yeah, I don't know enough about it. I'd have to see a lot more. But sure, we're not going to target sole survivors waving their hands in the water, let's say. Right? Especially with the Hellfire missile. And again, I don't know what visual is on them with Seal Team 6 close to them. I mean, there's just so much information that needs to come out that would figure out whether or not. I mean, I saw this one report that said maybe they thought that there was another boat in the air and this boat could have came and picked up some of the cargo of this ship. I don't know. Again, I haven't seen the battle damage assessment or anything, but all I know is that so many different opinions are being layered into this. Contextually that is now clouded to the point of we don't. It's going to get this mission accomplished of stopping what they're trying to do. I think it's a pure political situation. The Democrats don't want anything to do with what Trump is doing in the Caribbean. I think he needs to say what, what that strategy is. I still don't know what that is as well. But this is not the way to do it, to use the military, because basically, if he's going to accuse Hexith of a war crime, if you're going to accuse him of war crime, you're accusing everybody to pull the trigger, all the way down to who fired that, that missile.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, just for the record, obviously, you know, we're not engaging in hyperbole or trying to cloud new waters. In fact, we're trying to do just the opposite and help people understand what are the actual issues going on here.

[Pandora Jewelry Female Voice]

Yeah.

[Mike Lyons]

So, yeah, no, I don't think you are. This is. Again, I avoided this just for this reason. I think it's more political. I think it's a shame that we're at this place that now the military is going to be questioned about this going forward. We're going to drag this admiral into this political hearing. And this is all about getting Secretary Hegseth. Frankly, from my perspective and interesting, it just seems too close to the video that was released 10 days ago to have this situation come up right now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, we wondered about that yesterday. The timing seems pretty suspicious.

[Mike Lyons]

Exactly. And then the initial Washington Post article now is proven wrong. When the New York Times is throwing the Washington Post off under the bus over there, then, you know, something is up.

[Jack Armstrong]

So, so is your take. And I just want to make sure I completely understand what you're saying is that we, we are entering into getting way too lawyerly on this sort of thing, or much more lawyerly than we usually are in reality, you know, in a war situation.

[Mike Lyons]

Well, my take is that I think they decided that these are legal targets and they are. They're military targets as they've been declared narco terrorists and enemies of the state. And each one is evaluated separately with regard to how they're going to take it out and what they want to do and what the definition of destroyed means. And I think that once the initial shot was fired then. And if that was determined legal, then any shot fired after it is determined legal as well. Again, I got to think there's not a video on audio of Hegsett standing up Saying kill them all and all these other things that are coming out of this. I mean, it's just not the case. The people. You know, I had a chance to talk to some of the former JSOC commanders the last few days and they wanted me to reiterate to everybody that the people that are on these missions are professionals and they're doing things exactly by the book. And if they thought for one second that that was an illegal target or they were, they were survivors and the fact that they thought that the target wasn't destroyed, they wouldn't have fired again. Why did, why didn't a couple of weeks later we, we turned two people back over to this, the host country? Why did that happen? Well, they must have thought that situation was different from this. I'm sure that will be explained in the Senate Armed Services Committee. But the professionals in the military are looking at every single aspect and there's just no way they were going to fire on a target that wasn't legal.

[Joe Getty]

All right, well said. We will wait for more facts to come out. Now to your piece about the, the still taking shape Ukraine deal. I thought the way you framed it was so interesting that it's not exactly a peace treaty, it's more a Korean style armistice or freeze. Tell us about that.

[Mike Lyons]

Yeah, it's a freeze and you know, it's a classic trading land for some kind of freedom or immediate relief from stopping the war. We all want the war to stop, but there's no guarantees of what specifically what that means without NATO being involved. For example. I still don't believe Russia will accept anything, any peace agreement or any agreement that they come to right now anyway. And I'll kind of put this out preemptively because it's going to force the United States to try to create more leverage at some point. But if they did accept what's currently on the table right now, all it does is going to set up round two at some point. I mean it's appeasement to try to stop a war. You know, 1938, let's say that was kind of appeasement to try to keep a war from happening. This is the, it flips it on its head. It's Korea, 1953 in the same regard that will create a DMZ and will create this, this line, but it can always be restarted. And I just don't believe this is good for the long term of Eastern Europe and I don't think it's in the long term interest of the United States to do that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, we were wondering yesterday, why would Putin quit? If you're Russia with Russia's goals, would you keep prosecuting the war?

[Mike Lyons]

Exactly. Not for one second would I quit. So that's the thing. And there's the battlefield math has not changed. There's nothing differently on the battlefield. In fact, the Russians have caught up with the Ukrainians when it comes to their drone technology. It's incredible. The fiber opt optic drones that are being used right now and they're tethered and they're ubiquitous to the weather and they're not impervious to electronic warfare. We need to be paying close attention. I know we are at the military academy of this because we've got a leapfrog this technology. We can't be satisfied with what's good enough on the battlefield right now. We've got to be looking over the horizon and figuring out what it's going to take, what the drone technology looks like on the next battlefield. Because right now it's very, very advanced right now. And the Russians have caught right up with the Ukrainians on it.

[Joe Getty]

Right. And final point on the comparison with Korea, the thing that bothers me as somebody who's been standing up for Ukraine is that unlike the Korean deal where you got your demilitarized zone, but then everybody's armed to the teeth on both sides of it, this is calling for Ukraine to more or less disarm, to weaken their own military and become a just. It wouldn't take 10 minutes for Putin to violate the agreement and beat the hell out of Ukraine. Take even more land a year or two hence.

[Mike Lyons]

Exactly. They would have interior lines. They would take land that they haven't conquered yet. You know, in Korea we poured in 45,000 troops. There's 10,000 artillery rounds, you know, targeting each other right now. That's a tinderbox on some level and we've talked about that before. But this in particular would beit would clearly lead to a round two at some point. Unless NATO, for example, provided an air defense umbrella over Ukraine that guaranteed all missiles coming from Russia would be shot down. Perhaps a no fly zone. Although a no fly zone is techn. Effectively an act of war. But. And where do the troops come from? So NATO has to be in the game or NATO countries have got to be in the game from a security perspective or to exact your point, they would roll right through Ukraine once they were disarmed.

[Joe Getty]

Military analyst Mike Lyons will post his piece forum realclear defensemstrongandgidi.com Mike, really interesting perspective. Thanks so much for the time.

[Mike Lyons]

Yeah. Great, guys. Thanks for having me. And thanks for having this kind of conversation because I'm not sure other people are having it. And I think it's important to recognize that our military is profess not murdering people in the water. I just think I just want to make that point clear.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, we'd probably be better off pandering, but we're too stubborn to do it. So anyway, thanks, Mike. Great to talk to you.

[Mike Lyons]

Great guys. Great out here.

[Jack Armstrong]

So do these two things go together, though, that our military is professional and we're not in the business of murdering people in the water and things aren't quite as delineated as you think they are in TV shows or whatever around these issues.

[Joe Getty]

Well. And to what extent is a drug cartel an enemy force? And to what extent are we at war? Cause that's there's an underlying set of questions before we even get to the specifics. But a quick word from our friends at Omaha Steaks. That's fabulous. The sale they got going on right now, it's fabulous. Their sizzle all the way sale. You can get 50% off site wide at Omaha steaks.com plus you good people get an extra $35 off with the promo code Armstrong at checkout.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, we're just doing that for you because we like you and we want you to eat Oma steaks because they're really, really good. Lots of different kinds of steaks. You know, there are different cuts and that star sort of stuff. And they have that Omaha steaks, but they're all fantastic. And then the burgers are the best burgers I've ever had. Absolutely fantastic. The apple tartlets. Just all kinds of stuff from Oma steaks that are great.

[Joe Getty]

You want an endorsement. I've ordered it. For my papa who just turned 85 year after year after year. Love Omaha Steaks. Never for a second wonder about their quality. It is so good. A lot of different packages, too. Say big on gourmet gifts and more holiday favorites with omaha steaks. Visit omaha steaks.com for 50% off site wide during their sizzle all the way sale. That's a really good name. And for an extra 35 bucks off, use the promo code Armstrong at checkout. Use it at checkout Omaha steaks.com the code is Armstrong.

[Jack Armstrong]

I want to talk about what's your P Doom a little bit later. If you don't know that term around. AI But I don't want to my.

[Joe Getty]

Rap name P. Doom. Yo.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't want to be the scariest radio show in America. So we have some other stuff for you coming up next.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Armstrong and Getty this is Jacob Goldstein from what's yous Problem? Business software is expensive, and when you buy software from lots of different companies, it's not only expensive, it gets confusing. Slow to use, hard to integrate. Odoo solves that because all Odoo software is connected on a single, affordable platform. Save money without missing out on the features you need. Odoo has no hidden costs and no limit on features or data. Odoo has over 60 apps available for any needs your business might have, all at no additional charge. Everything from websites to sales to inventory to accounting, all linked and talking to each other. Check out Odoo at o d o o.com that's o d o o.com want.

[CarMax Announcer]

To sell your car your way?

[Pandora Jewelry Female Voice]

Who wouldn't?

[CarMax Announcer]

That's why CarMax offers a car selling experience designed just for you with online and in store options. Want to know what your car is worth quickly? Get an online offer in under two minutes. Want to think it over? Use OfferWatch to keep tabs on your car's value over time. Plus, CarMax offers flexible selling options with express drop off in store or pick up at home. Selling your car is in your control with CarMax. Want to drive CarMax pickup not available everywhere. Restrictions and fee may apply. See carmax.com for details.

[Steffi]

It's the season to come together over your holiday favorites at Starbucks. Warm up with a creamy caramel brulee latte, get festive with an iced gingerbread chai, or share a velvety peppermint mocha Together is the best place to be at Starbucks.

[Pandora Jewelry Female Voice]

Black Friday is here and Pandora Jewelry is offering up to 40% off storewide and sitewide now through December 2nd. Explore jewelry designed to last beyond the season, from classic charms to modern rings, bracelets, earrings and more. Whether you're holiday shopping or treating yourself, now's the perfect time to find something special.

[Pandora Jewelry Spokesperson]

Every year I look forward to going out and picking out some nice pieces of jewelry for all the women in my life, from my wife to my mother to even my aunts. Everyone's getting something. And with Black Friday and Cyber Monday deals, how can you go wrong?

[Pandora Jewelry Female Voice]

I personally love to treat myself during the holiday season, so I'd definitely be taking Pandora up on this offer shot. [e-mail] or your local Pandora store. Exclusions apply.

[Story Dream Machine Announcer]

Looking for a way to make story time more magical for both you and your little ones? Meet the story Dream Machine, where colorful lights and sound effects help each story unfold right before your eyes. From classic tales to new adventures. There's a wide variety of story packs to collect, sold separately. And here's the best part. Story Time doesn't have to stay in the living room. With the Storytime Travel Case, you can bring your Story Dream Machine and stories anywhere on vacation to Grandma and Grandpa's, even outside under the stars. Want to make it even more interactive? Add a Story Dreamers plush to the mix and watch your child engage with their favorite stories in a whole new way. The Story Dream Machine makes Story Time more magical for you and your little ones. Its colorful lights and sound effects help all our stories, from classic tales to to new adventures, unfold right before your eyes. Use the Story Time Travel Case to take it with you. Or Add a Story Dreamers plush too. So go ahead, spark imagination, create memories, and bring story time to life with the Story Dream Machine.

[Joe Getty]

Hard to believe, but Ireland will finally introduce warning labels on alcohol. You know, to warn of its harmful side effects such as kidney disease, cancer or worse. Going home with Rosie o' Donnell Never forget or something. Hey, the get it by Christmas shipping deadline is upon us. Order your new Ang T shirt or hoodie now at the Ang Superstore. Armstrongetti.com perhaps you're looking for something else? How about the truly amusing KFTC apron, perfect for the your favorite griller, please. I can't wait to get mine. Where's Mine handsome? Or our new drinkware and the Ruin the entire country Newsome 2028 T shirts are flying off the shelves. Wear them proudly. Halt progressive stupidity in its tracks. Anyway, moving along because we all want a quick route to health other than eating a reasonably balanced diet and regularly exercising. And I'm not claiming for a minute I do those things. But anyway, everybody wants to take supplements. Katie, are you big on supplements? Have you been into the turmeric or whatever pre pregnancy? I I was, but then I kept reading all this stuff about how it's just they're not regulated and not good for you. So I steer clear. Came across this piece from our friends Jason Rance in Seattle, who's a terrific radio guy and a good guy. New independent lab analysis may make every Amazon shopper think twice before buying another supplement from the world's largest online marketplace. A consumer health testing platform purchased 44 of Amazon's most popular supplements and put them through ISO accredited labs. The results were alarming.

[CarMax Announcer]

Oh boy.

[Joe Getty]

50%. 22 out of the 44 failed to meet their label claims for what were in them and Even more stunning, of those 22 that failed to meet the claims, 20 of them, virtually all of them, had 0 to 3% of the main ingredient amount claimed. That means half the supplements tested were effectively fakes. And many of them contained none or almost none of what the label promised was in them. So Amazon's marketplace has become a huge magnet for low quality, foreign manufactured, deceptive supplement sellers.

[Jack Armstrong]

But did they work?

[Joe Getty]

They cured their placebo almost right away.

[Jack Armstrong]

Had quite a conversation with my niece who's in medical school right now, over Thanksgiving about placebo and how I'm all for it. If I think it works and it made me feel better, I'm 100%, I'll pay for it. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

So the folks who sponsored this, who I believe are a domestic supplement maker, they discovered that every single overseas registered supplement they tested, failed testing, including six from mainland China, delivered none of the claim potency. Plus, you get your opaque seller identities on Amazon. I've fallen prey to that once or twice too. Third party sellers. Anyway, buyer beware. Go. Go with known domestic brands. Yeah. And one thing that I've seen, I can't remember where I saw this report, but these, especially the Chinese manufacturers will pay people to review the product. So then it'll show the product is having a higher rating because, you know, they've, they've obviously planted all these, these reviews. And then people purchase.

[Jack Armstrong]

How about these giant, giant vitamin stores that, that they have in strip malls or whatever. Those are probably legit, right? If you go into one of those.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I would again, I would check the label. Maybe go with the better known supplement brands. Yeah, I mean, maybe taking turmeric or whatever the hell is. Is today's hot, hot mineral magnesium a good idea or bad idea? But you might as well get what you're paying for.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And then whiz it out, because your body gets plenty of it just from regular diets, like most things.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's correct. Yes, yes. Whiz it out, folks.

[Jack Armstrong]

How much time we got? Michael, we gotta talk about that field goal from last night. If you haven't watched the video, why did they send me out to kick a field goal? That was a mistake. We got a lot of stuff on the way. Hope you can stay here.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Armstrong and Getty, this is Jacob Goldstein from what's your problem? Business software is expensive. And when you buy software from lots of different companies, it's not only expensive, it gets confusing. Slow to use, hard to integrate. Odoo solves that because all Odoo software is connected on a single affordable platform. Save money without missing out on the features you need. Odoo has no hidden costs and no limit on features or data. Odoo has over 60 apps available for any needs your business might have, all at no additional charge. Everything from websites to sales to inventory to accounting. All linked and talking to each other. Check out Odoo at o d o o.com that's o d o o.com want.

[CarMax Announcer]

To sell your car your way?

[Pandora Jewelry Female Voice]

Who wouldn't?

[CarMax Announcer]

That's why CarMax offers a car selling experience designed just for you with online and in store options. Want to know what your car is worth quickly? Get an online offer in under two minutes. Want to think it over? Use OfferWatch to keep tabs on your car's value over time. Plus, CarMax offers flexible selling options with express drop off in store or pickup at home. Selling your car is in your control with CarMax. Want to drive CarMax pickup not available everywhere. Restrictions and fee may apply. See carmax.com for details.

[Steffi]

It's the season to come together over your holiday favorites at Starbucks. Warm up with a creamy caramel brulee latte, get festive with an iced gingerbread chai or share a velvety peppermint mocha together is the best place to be at Starbucks.

[Pandora Jewelry Female Voice]

Black Friday is here and Pandora Jewelry is offering up to 40% off store wide and sitewide now through December 2nd. Explore jewelry designed to last beyond the season, from classic charms to modern rings, bracelets, earrings and more. Whether you're holiday shopping or treating yourself, now's the perfect time to find something special.

[Pandora Jewelry Spokesperson]

Every year I look forward to going out and picking out some nice pieces of jewelry for all the women in my life. From my wife to my mother to even my aunts, everyone's getting something. And with Black Friday and Cyber Monday deals, how can you go wrong?

[Pandora Jewelry Female Voice]

I personally love to treat myself during the holiday season, so I definitely be taking Pandora up on this offer. [e-mail] or your local Pandora store. Exclusions apply.

[Story Dream Machine Announcer]

Looking for a way to make story time more magical for both you and your little ones? Meet the story Dream Machine, where colorful lights and sound effects help each story unfold right before your eyes. From classic tales to new adventures, there's a wide variety of story packs to collect sold separately. And here's the best part. Story time doesn't have to stay in the living room with the Storytime travel case case, you can bring your story, dream machine and stories anywhere on vacation, to Grandma and Grandpa's, even outside under the stars. Want to make it Even more interactive. Add a Story Dreamers plush to the mix and watch your child engage with their favorite stories in a whole new way. The Story Dream Machine makes story time more magical for you and your little ones. Its colorful lights and sound effects help all our stories, from classic tales to new adventures unfold world right before your eyes. Use the story Time travel case to take it with you. Or Add a Story Dreamers plush too. So go ahead, spark imagination, create memories and bring story time to life with.

[Joe Getty]

The story dream machine 47 yard try now by Young Wei Ku. And he stumbled. Gillen gets swallowed up. Patriots ball. I don't think I've ever seen that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Look like he just stubbed his foot right into the turf. There it is.

[Jack Armstrong]

They're watching, they're laughing. So here's what happened. The field goal kicker who is like me, he runs up to kick a field goal. His foot hits like two feet in front of the ball and he just jams his foot into the ground almost.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. He never contacted the ball. He didn't come within a foot of contact. Speaking as a guy who kicked a 35 yarder on the air, I would like to point out that was a. I have never seen anything like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, I was just going through a whole bunch.

[Joe Getty]

Any level of football. Not high school football.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, no, no. If you do that in junior high, everyone would laugh at you and they would wonder why did you ever think you could kick a football?

[Joe Getty]

Understand again, he planted his plant foot, he swung his foot, he hit a foot, foot and a half behind the ball. Never even scared the ball. I mean, and the, the holder's like, what the hell do I do now? He picks the ball up and gets the hell beat out of him.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was just going through a whole bunch of social media stuff from various NFL players through the years who say, I have watched 8 million games. I've never seen anybody do that before. Yeah, it's hard to imagine the equivalent of it. Be like if you're shooting a free throw and you turned around and faced the other direction and tried to put it in the other basket or hit.

[Joe Getty]

Yourself in the face with it. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's amazing how there was a play like this in the World Series where somebody dropped a pop fly. Basically how professionals who are the best in the world at it can make the, you know, I am a sucky athlete, 13 year old mistake sometimes.

[Joe Getty]

Well, yeah, but to drop a fly ball is one thing. To stand there and have it like go four feet away from your mitt, I mean, that would Be the equivalent to this. I'm sure he'll be out trying to explain that guy was just cut by another team and he caught on with the sucky, sucky Giants. Oh, boy. Oh, the barrel. No, I'm just picturing what his teammates.

[Mike Lyons]

Must have said to him as he.

[Joe Getty]

Was walking back to the bench.

[Jack Armstrong]

Will there be nothing to say? You don't need to say anything. There's nothing you could say. The guy knows what he did. His foot hit not even close to the ball. He probably about broke his ankle.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. I'll tell you, there's one thing you could say. Hope you catch on with another team, buddy. Sorry. Maybe carnival.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's what I just said to him. Car insurance. You ever thought about that?

[Joe Getty]

People need car insurance. It's a way to make a living.

[Jack Armstrong]

Be that guy at Costco that says to people when they walk by, hey, do you have vinyl siding? Be that guy.

[Joe Getty]

You know, if he's got a smart agent, he's trotting him out right now with some sort of. Sometimes you swing and miss badly and that's when you call service master or something.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Something, Anything. Apparently the quarterback was on the sideline. Jackson Darton, he. You could see him lipping in the camera. Oh, my God.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I saw that. I saw that. It was just. Oh my God. He turns his head like.

[Joe Getty]

And then he turns and says, what? And then mercifully his head is turned. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. You gotta lean into it. That's exactly it. You gotta on Kimmel tonight and. And you know, do something ridiculous and become a household name for that. And you'll make your living pitching various products the rest of your life. You'll make more money than you were ever going to make as a second tier kicker. Right. You need to become a household name for the worst kick in NFL history.

[Joe Getty]

Going ads for one of those divorce lawyers. I'm. I am young. Ho. Ku. Did you. Did you swing and miss on your first marriage?

[Jack Armstrong]

Ambulance chasing lawyers.

[Joe Getty]

Been in a car wreck, right? Boy, this was a car wreck, wasn't it? And they show the tape.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

If you've been in a car wreck called Joe, they fight for you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey, we posted [e-mail] because you got. If you haven't seen the video of the Giants kicker missing that field goal, you think we're exaggerating. We're not. We're on. We're not doing it justice of how bad that is.

[Joe Getty]

Missing the field goal hardly is. It's really inadequate to describe what happened the Ball didn't get off the ground. If I did, the ball wasn't even jostled. No, the ball didn't get off the ground. The ball was not assaulted. The ball was not contacted. The ball has nothing to do with this. It was not part of the play. All right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God.

[Joe Getty]

For that. Coming up, two things. Number one, it may be the greatest scam ever perpetrated in terms of the dollar value and it was perpetrated against the people of Europe. I will explain. And also this, this is so good. The question. And who is asking it, the question is if I am really turned on by a woman's bare feet. Is showing me pictures of a woman's bare feet pornography. And who's asking it? The irs.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll try to get past the. Because I think feet are disgusting and I just do not understand people who are turned on by feet.

[Joe Getty]

Feet, I'm foot neutral. They're handy for walking, certainly.

[Jack Armstrong]

But so I'll just try to ignore that. That you're a freaking weirdo if you're turned on by feet and just accept that some people are.

[Joe Getty]

You know, I'm not going to go too deep in the Getty playbook, but a nice foot rub is, you know, it's a good thing, right? Are you anti that you refuse to indulge there or what? I mean, you don't have to getting or giving? Giving.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'd rather not.

[Joe Getty]

I think feet are gross. Wow, wow, wow. Katie, you can sigh heavily and roll your eyes or you could step up to the mic.

[Mike Lyons]

You're an idiot, Jack.

[Joe Getty]

There you go.

[Jack Armstrong]

Feet are just disgusting. They should always be covered.

[Joe Getty]

Do you look at yours every day.

[Jack Armstrong]

And go, ew, keep them away from people. But the coming up, the IRS wants.

[Joe Getty]

To know if feet turn you on. Is that porn?

[Jack Armstrong]

I know somebody, I know a woman who became aware of the fact that one of her male co workers, if she wear, if she was barefoot in like, you know, attractive footwear at work, that that male co worker stared at her feet all the time.

[Joe Getty]

Oh boy.

[Jack Armstrong]

And it kind of became a thing. People in the people, other people became aware that man, oh boy, he's really going to be checking you out today. Like, you know, if she showed up in open toed sandals of some sort.

[Joe Getty]

Man, everybody with some sort of quasi lesbian look from then on and go hiking boots and thick woolen socks every day.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because apparently he was obvious about it that other people in the the workplace were aware that, oh boy, Jim's gonna be staring at your feet today. You know, that Sort of.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that's uncomfortable.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's.

[Joe Getty]

That's terrible.

[Jack Armstrong]

But it's. Well, for us, for somebody who's like in defeat, it's the equivalent of wearing, you know, a tube top or something, I guess for somebody who's into.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yes, please.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's not your fault.

[Joe Getty]

All right, so I will explain that. That confusing story coming up after a brief break. But our friends at Prize Picks want to remind you that Prize Picks is the easiest, most fun way to get into fantasy sports. You see, all you do is pick two players and you can combine sports if you want. Your lineup can have a basketball player and a football player, for instance, and you just pick more or less on the stat projections for at least two players.

[Jack Armstrong]

For instance, did you go more or less field goal kickers who would kick into the ground three feet from the ball? I actually don't think they had as an option, but if they had, you know, you might have done well.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, the more or less could have been the ball of move one inch. It didn't. Anyway, Prize Picks is super cool. You can make your picks on fantasy score, free throws made, field goal attempted, even turnovers. A couple of players really stack up their free throws. That's interesting. Anyway, download the Prize Picks app today and use the Code Armstrong to get $50 in lineups after you play your first five dollar lineup. That's the code ARMSTRONG. You get $50 in lineups to play around with for just playing a five dollar lineup. You don't have to win. It's automatic prize picks. It's good to be right.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the whole Pete Hegseth guys in the boat, second strike thing, we talked about it early in the show, then we had Mike Lyons on talking about it and we've gotten so many texts about it. We'll have maybe get some of those in hour three. Seems to be a hot topic for you all.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I guess. Wow. Okay. Yeah, I'm surprised. I thought we dealt with it. Just plenty, lot of plenty and a half. But people are crazy into it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Fair amount of partisan breakdown. And I think that's true in the media. Also, like, like my clients said that, you know, there's a lot of Democrats that would just love to get a scalpel with Pete Hegseth having to resign. That would. I've never understood this kind of partisanship where if you make somebody from the other party resign, like, wow, we've really got them now. I don't, I don't understand that.

[Joe Getty]

Well, yeah. What do you think Trump's gonna point AOC to the post? No, he's gonna appoint another hardcore pro defense Republican.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I don't. I don't understand that level of politics. But anyway, we got that. A lot of other stuff on the way to here.

[Story Dream Machine Announcer]

Armstrong and Gettysburg Jacob this is Jacob.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Goldstein from what's yous Problem? When you buy business software from lots of vendors, the costs add up and it gets complicated and confusing. Odoo solves this. It's a single company that sells a suite of enterprise apps that handles everything from accounting to inventory to sales. Odoo is all connected on a single platform in a simple and affordable way. You can save money without missing out on the features you need. Check out [e-mail] that's o d o o.com Want to buy your way?

[CarMax Announcer]

Of course you do. That's why CarMax offers an experience designed just for you. Want to start online, then visit the lot, then go back online?

[Pandora Jewelry Spokesperson]

Sure.

[CarMax Announcer]

Want to talk to a real person or chat online? Either works. Want to take your time and compare all the makes and models? No problem. Then make up some time by filling out the paperwork at home and schedule express pickup or home delivery. Done. When it comes to how you buy, CarMax puts you in the driver's seat. Want to drive? CarMax delivery restrictions apply. See CarMax.com for details.

[Steffi]

It's the season to come together over your holiday favorites at Starbucks. Warm up with a creamy caramel brulee latte, get festive with an iced gingerbread chai, or share a velvety peppermint mocha Together is the best place to be at Starbucks.

[Pandora Jewelry Female Voice]

Black Friday is here and Pandora Jewelry is offering up to 40% off storewide and site wide. Now through December 2nd. Explore jewelry designed to last beyond the season, from classic charms to modern rings, bracelets, earrings and more. Whether you're holiday shopping or treating yourself, now's the perfect time to find something special.

[Pandora Jewelry Spokesperson]

Every year I look forward to going out and picking out some nice pieces of jewelry for all the women in my life. From my wife to my mother to even my aunts. Everyone's getting something. And with Black Friday and Cyber Monday deals, how can you go wrong?

[Pandora Jewelry Female Voice]

I personally love to treat myself during the holiday season, so I'd definitely be taking Pandora up on this offer. [e-mail] or your local Pandora store. Exclusions apply.

[Story Dream Machine Announcer]

If you have young kids, you know how important it is to find screen free activities that actually hold their attention. The story Dream Machine does just that with simple kid friendly controls and imagine magical way of bringing stories to life. It projects words while a narrator reads aloud, helping your child develop early reading skills and word recognition. The colorful lights and sound effects make every story feel like an adventure. Kids can follow along, recognize sight words, and build confidence with every tale. Parents love how easy it is to swap stories and customize the experience for different ages. And when the story's over, it transforms into a white noise nightlight light to help your child drift off to sleep. You can collect a growing library of stories, including many you loved as a kid. It's a bedtime game changer and a daytime learning tool all in one. Find the Story Dream Machine at Amazon, Target, Costco, Walmart and LittleTikes.com bring story time to life with the Story Dream.

[Joe Getty]

Machine Hour three We're going to talk.

[Jack Armstrong]

To someone covering the Luigi trial at Scumbag Murderer. I resaw the video. God, that guy needs to if, if we, if we're going to have a death penalty, that guy should be executed.

[Joe Getty]

But he's handsome and some people are unhappy about their health insurance. So we should murder young dads, say people who ought to be denied the effing vote immediately.

[Mike Lyons]

Morons.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, so remember when Trump promised to exempt tips from taxes to win Nevada was a clever political ploy and then it was passed into law this past summer. Creates a number of challenges though. The tax break does not exempt tips from taxes entirely, but it's an incentive for people to earn more of them. Obviously, laws pass and people adjust their behavior to them. Tax laws especially. That's one thing liberals never get. Anyway, to avoid some sort of giant economy wide shift of earnings into tips, the IRS and the treasury have imposed some limits. Only people who work jobs that have customarily and regularly received tips can claim the deduction.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like talk show hosts.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly. Yeah, we've started to go fund me. No, we haven't. Anyway, so on a list of nearly 70 eligible occupations under the IRS list detailed in a proposed regulation in September were digital content creators, entertainers and performers and dancers, categories that seem to be a boon for America's sex workers. Everybody's thinking, yes, all these tips that I get online are now tax free.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, okay, I didn't know.

[Joe Getty]

Trump administration.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, I didn't know what you meant by digital content creators. I thought that those people get tips. You mean only fans?

[Joe Getty]

People among others. Yeah. Okay, well there, there's a hell of a lot of different digital content, but sure, yeah. But the Trump administration then added the tips for prostitution or pornographic activity, quote, unquote, would not Be entitled to the new tax break. Okay, so obviously that was a disappointment or at least, or a head scratcher to people who post.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hey, that's some nice fornicating. Here's 20%. I'm disappointed in that fornicating. I'll give you a 15 tip, but try harder.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that's. That's how it works. That's precisely how it works. For the online performance that you.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll take your word for it.

[Joe Getty]

The coins are. Well, I try to understand stories before I launch into them. So anyway, so where were we? Oh, okay. So people who post sexually explicit or even just sensual comments on platforms like OnlyFans, where users leave tips, aren't quite sure where this is going. Now, performers in the adult entertainment industry all already face difficulties accessing basic financial services they go into. But that's another difficulty. It certainly is. But nobody's sure how tax, how restrictions on pornographic activity would actually work, because the irs, like the rest of us, has not yet elaborated on which activities it would consider pornographic. It's unclear, for instance, whether strippers could claim the tap the tips deductions. How about exotic dancers who just lose their top? How about those who take off their top and their bottom? Plenty of activity, an accountant or tax lawyer could argue is merely titillating and not pornographic. Where's the line? How about some girl who does yoga in a bikini? How about some gal or guy who just shows their feet to people who get super turned on by feet. They are getting sexual gratification from it. Yet is it pornographic? And can you deny them the right to deduct those tips from their taxes?

[Jack Armstrong]

You're watching somebody do yoga and tights and giving them tips, you know.

[Joe Getty]

All right, yeah, I mean, I realize you'd like to write some sort of ironclad list of what you should be turned on by and what not and publish that as some sort of bible. I find the tax what is porn? Question to be more interesting, but whatever. All right, moving along. Perhaps the greatest scam in the history of mankind. The people of Europe, those poor bastards. Number one, they've all got a learn like three, four languages. What?

[Jack Armstrong]

We've changed subjects. I was, I was not tracking. We're on a different subject here.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Yeah. On a different topic, European politicians told their voters, we go with this big green energy thing. We'll have green jobs and cheap, abundant solar and wind energy. Also a sharp reduction in carbon emissions. And the poor Euros, having learned three or four languages, got screwed. We're two decades in and energy prices have skyrocketed They've cut their carbon emissions. Great. Yeah. China and India are like, that's cute. Way to go. Idiots. Yeah. They've cut their carbon emissions by more than any other region. 30% compared to 17% for us. But listen to their energy prices, would you? And people who pay high energy prices in the U.S. you think you're getting hosed. Now, granted, these are national averages, and somebody's getting hosed.

[Jack Armstrong]

That does count as pornography. If they're merely doing yoga, I'm not sure.

[Joe Getty]

Certainly the US in the US we pay, and this is an average. So if you're in, you know, Oklahoma, it's different than California. You pay 8.1 cents per kilowatt hour, 8 cents in the up. In the UK they're paying 34 cents.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

A kilowatt hour.

[Jack Armstrong]

I heard that it was crazy high because of their net zero policies. I didn't know it was that much. Go.

[Joe Getty]

It's quadruple. Italy's a little behind that at 29. Germany, 27. Poland, 25ish. France, 21ish. But, yeah, unfreaking believable.

[Jack Armstrong]

Charles. Charles C. Cook of National Review. He's. He's from England. He's regularly talks about how much cheaper everything is in the United States. And people in the United States don't realize it. It's just so much cheaper just to live compared to Europe.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Germany now has the highest domestic electricity prices in the developed world. There's also industrial energy prices, which complicates this a little bit. While the UK has the highest industrial electricity rates, average electricity prices for heavy industries in the European Union remain roughly twice Those in the US and 50% higher than China. No wonder their economies suck. And energy prices have grown more volatile as the share of renewables increased. So they skyrocket up and down, crippling industry hobbling. Europe's ability to attract key economic drivers like AI, which requires cheap and abundant electricity. They just got ripped off. Defrauded.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I got a question.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

So is the Trump administration arguing for more of those places to count as tips or fewer of those places of activities to count as tips? Like the person doing yoga and stretching on camera for people who want to watch them do yoga. Are they trying to get that included or trying not to? They're trying.

[Joe Getty]

I would guess. I would guess they're trying to minimize the number of people who could deduct tips just for revenue reasons.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like.

[Joe Getty]

Like any deduction.

[Jack Armstrong]

I thought they were going to try to broaden it just to include as many people as possible. But they already, you know, he's not running for election again, so he doesn't need to do that again again.

[Joe Getty]

Right, Right. So now you make these political promises and the IRS has to figure out and you know, a more mundane example of it is all right, what is a work expense is are this going.

[Jack Armstrong]

To become court cases like trying to figure out whether or not somebody's showing their feet. If people are turned on, they'll have to be like a judge will have to decide, right?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, unless the IRS goes super liberal on that sort of stuff. But yeah, absolutely could end up in court.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

I have shown one breast, your honor. One breast. This is not porn. This is not porn.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is really anatomy.

[Joe Getty]

We got a lot more on the way.

[Jack Armstrong]

If you miss a segment or an hour, get Podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.

[Mike Lyons]

If a Lenovo computer for your business is on your holiday list, don't shop around. Just go directly to the source lenovo.com you'll find exclusive deals on the PCs you want for your business, like the ThinkPad X914 Aura Edition and Yoga 7i 2in1. So avoid all that shopping chaos and price comparing and just go directly to the source lenovo.com where PCs are up to 50% off. That's lenovo.com.

[Steffi]

This Cyber Monday Discover the smart way to scent your home with Pura. Enjoy 30% off curated sets, including the sleek Pura 4 and Pura plus diffusers. Fill your space with premium fragrance, control your scent from anywhere, and set custom schedules for every mood. It's the easiest way to upgrade your home for less. Don't miss your chance to save 30% [e-mail] for a limited time.

[Jacob Goldstein]

This is Jacob Goldstein from what's yous Problem? Business software is expensive, and when you buy software from lots of different companies, it's not only expensive, it gets confusing. Slow to use, hard to integrate. Odoo solves that because all Odoo software is connected on a single affordable platform. Save money without missing out on the features you need. Odoo has no hidden costs and no limit on features or data. Odoo has over 60 apps available for any needs your business might have, all at no additional charge. Everything from websites to sales to inventory to accounting. All linked and talking to each other. Check out Odoo at O D O o dot com. That's O D O o dot com.

[Steffi]

The holidays are back at Starbucks, so share the season with a peppermint Mocha, Starbucks Signature Espresso, Velvety Mocha, and cool Peppermint notes topped with whipped cream and dark chocolate curls together is the best place to be at Starbucks. Did you know that parents rank teaching financial literacy as the toughest life skills? That's where Greenlight comes in, the debit card and money app made for families. With Greenlight, you can send money to kids quickly, set up chores, automate allowance, and track spending with real time notifications. Kids learn how to earn, save, and spend responsibly while parents have peace of mind knowing smart money habits are being built with guardrails in place. Try Greenlight Risk free [e-mail] iheartra that's greenlight.com iheart this is an iheart podcast. Guaranteed human.