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Michael
But I think there'll be others. I mean, they're corrupt.
Jack Armstrong
These, these were corrupt radical left Democrats.
Michael
Because Comey essentially was a. He's worse than a Democrat.
Jack Armstrong
I would say the Democrats are better than Comey, but no, there'll be others.
Michael
Look, it was, that's opinion. They weaponized the Justice Department like nobody in history.
Bill Maher
What they've done is terrible.
Jack Armstrong
And so I would, I hope there.
Michael
Frankly, I hope there are others because you can't let this happen to a country. So over the weekend, there was a fair amount of talk in your intelligentsia about Trump going after political opponents and whatnot. And the mainstream media view seems to be that it had never been thought of or done before. Trump did this to James Comey. It's all brand new. Mark Halperin, to his credit, in his newsletter on Saturday morning, I think it was, went through all the examples of lawfare just since 2000, actually went clear back to Clinton. He went way back. Just the number of times various White Houses have had the Justice Department go after somebody unsuccessfully. That they probably. It almost certainly was just political. It has happened a lot. Is it growing? Yes. Is it getting more troubling? Absolutely. But it's not new. We've been on this trajectory for quite some time. I don't know why we can't have conversations like this. Why can't we say, yeah, everybody's doing it and it keeps getting worse. So how do we, how do we go about stopping it as opposed to pretending that only one side does it? I don't know. I don't even know.
Jack Armstrong
Right. And as always, I, I find myself wondering, are you people just completely unaware of what Jack just said or are you just lying about it? I mean, because I could handle it better if they're liars. I mean, I know what to do with liars. But if you somehow missed all of the examples, thought they were entirely legit.
Michael
Alvin Bragg running for office on the I will get Trump then bringing an absolutely crap case forward.
Jack Armstrong
Letitia James did exactly the same thing as the state attorney general. I'll get Trump. Yeah. You know, if you, you could make the argument that when it was the Democrats doing it over and over again, mostly just the Democrats and the media pretending that it was perfectly legitimate, we were never going to have a productive discussion across the aisle about lawfare. And that it took the Republicans saying, okay, we can do this too. Let's do this. Let's dance. And it just. Just going nuts to provoke a national conversation about it.
Michael
So here's Dan Abrams on one of the talk shows yesterday. He's a legal analyst, and he is. You might not like him because he's a lefty, but he's in agreement with Andrew McCarthy of National Review and a number of other people on the right that I like. In the likelihood of a prosecution being.
Jack Armstrong
Low, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say I don't even think that many in the Trump administration believe they're gonna get a conviction. I think that there's a 95% plus chance that there won't be a conviction. That'll either get dismissed by a judge, there'll be a hung jury, there'll be an acquittal. But I'm not certain that that's the end goal here.
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Jack Armstrong
Because typically a prosecutor's office will not unless they think they can win it.
Michael
Does it make it unusual. This didn't happen with Trump, where they brought cases that then they were. They knew they weren't going to win just because they wanted to make him look bad and drag him down and be able to claim 42 felonies. The first time we've ever had a president. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. See, it's not new. Everybody's doing it.
Jack Armstrong
And it's just so annoying, tiring to Scott Jennings. 45. Michael, watching somebody like Speaker Johnson normalize that, it just, it sends us down.
Michael
An incredibly dangerous path. I'm stunned to hear you say we're now worried about normalizing this kind of thing. We had an attorney.
Jack Armstrong
What I'm about to do right now, let's hear it.
Michael
I'm about to tell you what happened in the state of New York when the Democratic attorney general ran an entire political campaign promising. Promising not to uphold justice, but to prosecute one person, Donald Trump. And I didn't hear a lot of weeping and gnashing of teeth among Democrats about normalizing the weaponization of justice.
Jack Armstrong
What the plucky little anchoret say to that, I wonder?
Michael
Yeah, well, I think we've covered this. We know.
Jack Armstrong
We.
Michael
Fat Alvin, we know what this is. We know what's going on now. Whether or not they're going to go after more people. Pam Bondi is going to go after more people than just former FBI director James Comey. One of the things I really hate about this is it's making James Comey a bit of a martyr slash hero for a certain crowd. And he's a disgusting human being. So I hate for him to get any tread out there. I mean, if he gets to sell a book or go around speaking to people and making money, that's horrible.
Jack Armstrong
My heart is broken. Is it maybe put out a series of greeting cards with him staring up into the woods and maybe looking longingly at a sunset or I don't know, whatever. Waves crashing on the shore. I can think of a number of examples. And keep the faith. Beholding a beautiful flower in the morning light.
Michael
Exactly.
Jack Armstrong
With his pithy quotes, his pithy bits of wisdom.
Michael
Staring at a puppy. Oh, my God.
Jack Armstrong
But I'm not afraid. Okay, now I see him, like, holding up a baby and looking at the baby and its innocence, and then some pithy James Comey quote. We will not live on our knees. That's a good one right there. Yes. So unless we have our shins shot off. And unfortunately, we will live on our knees. Wow. Hey, that is a very obscure reference to the King of the hill.
Michael
Or do you remember how old Cotton.
Jack Armstrong
Had his knees shut off by the. The Japanese in World War II.
Michael
Right, the Koreans.
Jack Armstrong
Shins shot off.
Michael
It was by the Koreans in the Korean War.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, right, right, right. Sorry. I had the wrong conflict. My apologies.
Michael
So, Chat GPT. Chat GPT just made an announcement. They're rolling out new parental controls, which if they work like most parental controls out there, you click on a button, say, yeah, I'm 18. Okay, that's a good parental control. But anyway, the new chat bout. You know what I think has happened? I think. I think my tongue has said, I've had enough of this. I don't want to talk about any of this stuff anymore. So I refused to cooperate.
Jack Armstrong
Your tongue has retired before the rest of you. Fascinating.
Michael
The new chatbot accounts for minors will limit answers related to graphic content, romantic and sexual role play. That's interesting. You're gonna. You're not gonna allow a 16 year old to have a sexy conversation with a computer. We live in weird times. Viral challenges. No viral challenges on Chat GPT. And no extreme beauty ideals. I don't know what that means.
Jack Armstrong
Familiar with that? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's those. Those trends you see every so often about how they're convincing adolescent girls usually and the boys too that their thighs have to look like this or their stomach has to be this flat or the ratio for their hips to stomach should be whatever the hell.
Michael
Okay, well at least she's trying so.
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Jack Armstrong
They've certainly because there is no unrest. You send troops, we will create some unrest to prove that the troops shouldn't be there. Got it.
Michael
Excellent point there. So we can touch on that story among other things on the way. Stay here.
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Jack Armstrong
The US Team staged a furious Rally.
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After falling behind at the Ryder cup on New York's Long Island. But in the end, the European team held on to retain one of golf's most prestigious titles.
Jack Armstrong
Ireland.
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Shane Lowry sank the putt that won.
Jack Armstrong
It all for the Europeans. The US Will get another crack at a trophy in two years in which the mainstream media takes one of the most amazing things I've ever seen in sports and reduces it to 17 seconds of, oh.
Michael
Well, we lost, right?
Jack Armstrong
We did indeed.
Michael
Okay, and what was one of the most amazing.
Jack Armstrong
Bottom line. So there are three sessions. Three days, three. There are actually five sessions, but three days. Day one, the U.S. got whooped, humiliated. Day two, the U.S. got whooped, humiliated. Day three, 12 individual matches. Nobody has ever come back from, I think, four and a half points and we are seven points down. We had to win all the matches but one. Completely impossible. It was like a baseball team being down by 15 runs after eight. We lost by one run. It was one of the most miraculous comebacks I've ever seen in sports. It was, it was edge of your seat, jumping up and down. Are you blanking? Kidding me? Astonishing comeback that fell that short, just that much. So, I don't know, super exciting.
Michael
So I don't know much about the golf, but I was flipping on the cable news this morning and I heard people talking about the really unsportsmanlike conduct that was occurring among a lot of the fans. What is the story on that? Like really, really over the top.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, a bunch of things at work there. Number one, you're in New York, so start there. Number two, America was getting its ass whooped and everybody was in a bit of an U mood. And, and some of the higher profile players for Europe are fairly feisty. And so the, the feisty fans of New York and, you know, if it's one out of a thousand who's screaming really bad stuff or at really inopportune moments, because golf is one of a few sports where you're expected to shut the hell up as a fan during, you know, the, the key moments. Like in tennis, for instance, it doesn't take a lot of people being, you know, bad humans to make the crowd look really bad. But there was a lot of it.
Michael
Yeah, we've talked about this many times. Just the interesting idea that in sports, like tomorrow night, you got Red Sox, Yankees, Major League Baseball playoff start, you could end up with a, a pitcher, batter situation that makes all the difference in the game very difficult to hit. A baseball crowd screaming at a decibel. That is not healthy. As Opposed to silent. Different sports have a different way of doing it.
Jack Armstrong
Well, yeah, yeah. But the funny thing is, if you are in a sport where everything's expected to be loud, no individual yelling, anything matters. You can't hear them, you can't make it out.
Michael
It's a cacophony.
Jack Armstrong
Right, Right, exactly. So golf either, you know, and we've got some quotes here that are pretty.
Michael
Interesting, but do you know what were people saying? I heard it was really, really awful, but I haven't heard anybody say what, like, were they insulting their wives or their.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, everything you can imagine.
Michael
Really.
Jack Armstrong
Everything? Yeah, yeah. Personal insults. Wow. Obscenity. Just anything you can imagine. Yeah. Here's the great Rory McElroy is a cute little Irishman. He hits the ball about a mile and a half. Give me 15, Michael. I think golf should be held to a higher standard than what was seen.
Michael
Out there this week.
Jack Armstrong
Golf has the ability to unite people. Golf teaches you very good life lessons. It teaches you etiquette. It teaches you how to play by the rules. It teaches you how to respect people. And sometimes. This week we didn't see that.
Michael
Your wife's a whore.
Jack Armstrong
Shut up, you little Irish people. Yeah.
Michael
Who took me Lucky Charms?
Jack Armstrong
Oh, now a racial epithet, more or less. You know, I kind of like this one. Give me 18, Michael. With all that in mind, everything you.
Michael
Go through, how satisfying is it to.
Jack Armstrong
Turn around to someone and say, quote, shut the F up, and then stick.
Michael
It to two feet?
Jack Armstrong
Very satisfying.
Michael
Congratulations.
Jack Armstrong
It wasn't stiff.
Michael
It wasn't stiff.
Jack Armstrong
I had to put it. You know, it's just. It's a reflection of the world we live in.
Michael
It definitely is. Of course, as we just keep getting coarser and coarser and the last remnants of places where you don't have coarseness. It's starting to creep in. Weddings and funerals are next, I assume.
Jack Armstrong
Wow. Wow. That is completely changed. I will tell you this. When people would shout something awful or at an awful moment, that's very unsportsmanlike. You would hear large portions of the crowd boo them and express their disapproval of it. And it wasn't just the other team's fans. It was like, all the fans. So it was a minority. But as anybody who's observed any eve, a classroom or a. Or a wedding or any gathering of human beings, it doesn't take a majority to ruin it. Of course not. It just takes a few people. A social compact is a fairly fragile thing.
Michael
Yeah. Dang it. Everything go in that direction. Oh, and one more golf thing is, I Am not a golfer, but I saw a Wall Street Journal story. We need to do away with the gimme putt. Did you read that?
Jack Armstrong
No.
Michael
Would you have any idea what they were talking about off the top of your head? Well, it's time to end. Time to end the gimme put. That's when it's like it's so close you just say and pick it up. I'm sure you.
Jack Armstrong
In the context of the Ryder cup or just in general?
Michael
Just in general. Just regular golf.
Jack Armstrong
I have no friggin idea.
Michael
Okay. I didn't click on it because I don't play golf, but I just thought it was kind of a funny thing.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I don't know.
Michael
I don't know. So Trump is sitting down with Netanyahu. They are going to have a press conference today. Trump claimed on Friday and all weekend long that he has got a way to solve the whole Palestinian Gaza hostage mess, which is pretty thorny and violent, as you know. And he says he's got a way to solve it. So we're going to hear about that at some point today. The return of the hostages.
Jack Armstrong
Hostages. Not.
Michael
Not sausages.
Jack Armstrong
I'm sorry, breakfast meat. Or humans being detained by monsters. The second one. Now I'm good. Now I'm good. Okay. Plus the whole soft on crime apparatus. This is a carefully organized, well financed group of human beings who have dedicated their lives to these bizarro practices that are miserable failures. But they will continue succeeding until we recognize who they are and what they're doing. So we'll talk more about that.
Michael
Fantastic. When does Comey's trial thing start? Do we have any idea when that actually happens?
Jack Armstrong
Oh, that's going to be. Not sure. I'm not sure it'll ever come to trial.
Michael
You don't think it's. You think it'll get dismissed?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, or it'll just peter out. The. The prosecutors in charge will just look at what they have and the strength of the case and just to hem and haw and shuffle their feet until everybody forgets about it. But I'm not afraid. So let's have a trial. God's sakes, is pompous a crime?
Michael
Okay, we got all that stuff Joe mentioned and any news that breaks while we're on the air. And I think there's going to be plenty today. If you missed a segment or an hour, get the podcast. Armstrong and Yeti on demand.
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Bill Maher
The basic problem we have in America.
Michael
No, no, no, no. I want to set it up. Want to set it up. Michael, before we get to Bill Maher, if you recognize that voice, two things. One, I forgot to bring in my Trump pinata. I was at my grocery store yesterday, my local grocery store, and they're selling pinatas for some reason. This is a Mexican grocery store.
Jack Armstrong
Were you in Mexico?
Michael
No, it's my local mercado. Is that Spanish for market? That's what it says on the sign. Anywho, they have pinatas in there, all kinds of different pinatas. And they had a Trump pinata. I thought, I gotta have that. We gotta have that in the studio. So I bought it, and we'll. I'll bring it in and hang it in the studio. It's pretty big. It's like 4ft tall.
Jack Armstrong
And then this idea being you beat an effigy of the President of the United States until it breaks open and candy falls up.
Michael
Yeah, I don't know if that. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if there's any politics behind that or not, or if they just thought it would sell. And that was the only thing to it. Confirming something JD Vance said earlier today. The US Is considering granting Ukrainian President Zelensky's request for Tomahawk cruise missiles and allowing Kiev to strike deep into Russia. President Trump's envoy confirmed that would be a big deal. Tomahawk missiles and you can shoot deep into Russia. That's a different war than what we've had for the last three years.
Jack Armstrong
And interesting that it's Vance saying that since he's been highly Ukraine skeptical over the last couple of years, but it's.
Michael
Been confirmed, so that ought to get Vlad's attention. Different topic. Bill Maher, lifetime lefty, progressive Democrat and proud of it, and often crazy, in my opinion, thinks the Democratic parties ain't gonna win unless they change the road they're on. On his show Friday night, got a lot of attention saying things like this.
Bill Maher
The basic problem we have in America is conservatives think the liberals are insane, and they're not completely wrong. Now, I don't think most liberals are insane, but neither do they make it clear they disapprove of the ones who are. And their cowardice in not marginalizing their own crazies has been their downfall. I couldn't get Neil DeGrasse Tyson a genius scientist and preeminent scientific voice in the media to agree that it was ridiculous for Scientific American and the Atlantic to be claiming that separating sports by sex doesn't make sense. Yes it does, actually. It makes perfect sense and it's obvious that it does.
Michael
Crowd claps now maybe they would clap for anything he said. I don't know. Although we, we know from polling it's like an 80, 20, 90, 10 issue.
Jack Armstrong
Right? Yeah.
Michael
Anyway.
Jack Armstrong
And it is exceptional and interesting that a so called mainstream liberal would not say, yeah, no, no, I'm not going to say that. That sports should be separated by sex.
Michael
Who's he afraid of?
Jack Armstrong
He doesn't believe it.
Michael
There's not a chance he actually believes it. Anyway, next clip there, Michael.
Bill Maher
And there's a lot of stuff like that on the left. And when conservatives see it, they say, I'm sorry, we're just not going to go along with reinventing society, often pointlessly, even if we have to cancel democracy to do it. That's what they're saying. They see. Gender is only a construct and sex is assigned at birth. And they say we're not doing that. Transing kids by self diagnosis with no age limit, no parental notification and no acknowledgement of social contagion. Not doing it. Asylum now covers any reason for anyone to come to America. Not doing it. Homelessness is a lifestyle. Natural immunity doesn't count anymore. Whiteness is toxic. Penises in women's prisons, welcoming the intifada. We're not doing it.
Michael
He's right. We're not. He is right. And that is why Trump won. We are not doing any of that. I liked the, the one D D dad. Darn it. One of them really stood out to me. Homelessness is a lifestyle, is a good one, but we're not putting up with those. No we aren't. And, and that is why Democrats will lose forever. At which he goes on to talk about here, I believe. Next clip.
Bill Maher
If we are ever going to get back to the old America, that's got to be the Democrats part of the bargain. Stop coming up with radically new and often terrible ideas and then in the next breath insist there be no debate about any of it. That if you don't see it right away and go along, you're bad, stupid and deplorable. As if you were saying duh, two plus two equals five. Isn't that obvious? Yeah, it's obvious. You can't add.
Michael
Oh, trans and kids by self diagnosis with no age limit, no parental notification and no acknowledgment. Of social contagion. Exactly. I really like that one. The not bailing. We. Look, this is a trend. This is a fad. This is, this is, it's like, you know, horrifically, if you have in your high school a kid commits suicide, it often catches on and you have more than one. I remember my high school, you had a, a little trend there for a while of getting pregnant. Caught on. Yeah. The whole I'm a different gender look. All the attention I'm getting is a contagion. Also. That's the first time I've ever heard anybody other than like a hardcore conservative say out loud. It's, it's a, it's a social contagion.
Jack Armstrong
And to ignore social contagion among teens, especially teen girls, is to ignore like the number one thing that happens. Teens following trends. Does that ring a bell for anybody? Yeah, that's what they do all the time. And we kind of did too as kids. And that's just what kids from time immemorial do. And yet you weren't allowed to say that when you're talking about the trans thing. You're right. It's, it's obscene, it's disgusting, and it's a denial of what is plainly true. It, you know, I get like Republicans are afraid to contradict Trump or go up against Trump because they need the Trump wing of the party to get elected. It's got to be a really uncomfortable thing for mainstream lefties to be so terrified of, of the radical neo Marxist crowd that you can't even call out mutilating children who are just following a social contagion of transgenderism. That's, that's a bad position. I suggest you dig deep and find some courage, friends, because you're condoning some really, really sick stuff.
Michael
I wanted to read this part. So Maher mocked Democrats smug self righteousness in defending some of the dumbest ideas to ever come down the pike. And he had examples of math is racist, queers for Palestine, Looting is cool. Healthy at any weight. If the men's football team played the women's team, it would be a tie. Those are things we have heard in the last several years, right?
Jack Armstrong
The whole.
Michael
Healthy at any weight. Do not acknowledge that, that being 300 pounds is anything that you should take a look at. Just nuts.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah.
Michael
Is it over? That's the question.
Jack Armstrong
The craziness I think peaked at least.
Michael
I absolutely think so. I think we're on the downhill side of that, that whatever that was, I think we're on the downhill side of it.
Jack Armstrong
But can the sane mainstream clean out the pockets of hardcore insanity though? Like specifically in education, which is what I'm always thinking about is, is the, is the lack of the fervor for that madness among, you know, the mainstream gonna be enough to root it out of where it's really, really entrenched? I don't see that unless there's a concerted effort and, you know, a whole lot of screaming and yelling and throwing up of hands and demonstrations because the colleges, man, that's gonna be a hard fight.
Michael
One more comment from Bill Maher before we move on.
Bill Maher
Smug self righteousness in the defense of some of the dumbest ideas to ever come down the pike is not a formula that's really working for you. Because here's one thing I can promise every liberal in this country. The Democrats can win every election from now until forever. And the people who now hold the reins of power will not give it back if they think you're still nutty.
Michael
I don't know if I agree with that, but the opposite is certainly true. Democrats will lose every election from now until forever if you don't abandon like shun, I mean vocally shun the crazies in your party.
Jack Armstrong
Right, right. And that's going to be a ripping the band aid off moment.
Michael
No doubt.
Jack Armstrong
It's going to sting and you're going to go, ow.
Michael
But I feel like somebody that we've never heard of is going to run for president as a Democrat and say. And just ignore those people. No, no, no, no. There's two genders. No, no, no, no, no. Girls and boys parts. No, no, no, no, no. We got to do something about the homeless thing now. No, math isn't racist. That's stupid. It's just going to say that and really bring a big chunk of people.
Jack Armstrong
Over to their side. It might be somebody we've never heard of or it might be recent tourists to beautiful Iowa. Rahm Emanuel could be. Who's making the rounds at all the big events.
Michael
Could be. He would say that sort of thing. He absolutely would. Yeah. All right. I know you had something good. What was it?
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, the let him out of prison industrial complex. How it works, who's financing it. The maniac who murdered that poor Ukrainian girl in, in, in Charlotte. It's absolutely clear what's going on and how that works.
Michael
I hate that. I hate that.
Jack Armstrong
All right.
Michael
Bunch of other stuff on the way too. Stay here.
Jack Armstrong
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Perhaps now I'm gonna go ahead and name it. Not perhaps. It is the single dumbest front page, top of the fold, USA Today headline they've ever had. I can't believe, you know, and I'm kind of feeling them, they might be where we are. They're just like, so much mayhem in the world. You're like, I don't even know if I can talk about it anymore. Their big front page story today, USA Today, is the semicolon dying opinion split on revel, relevance.
Jack Armstrong
We needed a moment of mirth, and there it is.
Michael
And they take it completely seriously.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, yeah.
Michael
Is the semicolon dying opinion split on relevance is their big front page, many page story? Okay, gotta admit, I don't know exactly how to use a semicolon. I'm not sure I ever did. I certainly don't know.
Jack Armstrong
I used to. But, yes, it's. It's grown fuzzy in my head. Absolutely. Anyway, Roy Cooper was the former governor of North Carolina. Got a reputation as kind of a moderate lefty, a normal lefty. But he's running for the open Senate seat next year in that fine state. And he says one of his major accomplishments as the state's governor was the creation of a racial equity task force that pushed to eliminate cash bail for certain crimes, the result of which, among many, many other things, was career criminal, crazy person, anonymous scumbag who senselessly murdered that poor Ukrainian refugee gal on the Charlotte subway train.
Michael
God, that's one of the worst things ever.
Jack Armstrong
And it is interesting on a couple of different levels that he is touting this partly because the. The left side of the Democratic Party, the far left, including a lot of black folks, is still really down with these philosophies, given how the rest of America feels about them. It's striking to me that again, this is like an important part of his resume that he's offering to voters.
Michael
Well, this thinking, which is very, you know, socialism, communism, Mamdani said the other day he proposed on a radio show, proposed higher tax rates for white neighborhoods than basing tax rates on the color of the people in your neighborhood.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, yeah. So the Free Beacon goes through Cooper's history with the task force for Racial equity and criminal justice. But the part that I. That I wanted to get into at least a little bit is that there are a couple of big, really well financed, not for profits, that are pushing this stuff all over America. And the Free Beacon reported that Mecklenburg county, which is where Charlotte is, actually thanked one of those groups, the MacArthur foundation in 2020 in a press release for helping fund its efforts to reduce its jail population through reforming bail policy and and equity programs. And it was interesting to see the MacArthur foundation mentioned because I'd read elsewhere that that is one of several nonprofits or NGOs that are spending zillions of dollars to push this stuff. This is their charity. And here's a great example for you. Andrew Kerr writing in the Free Beacon, a consulting firm funded by left wing billionaires has embedded itself in the offices of 40 progressive prosecutors in America where it has quietly helped to craft soft on crime policies that now affect 48 million Americans across 22 states. They are known as the Wren Collective. W R E N like the bird the Ren Collective is a firm that provides its services to prosecutors for free and with no expectation of publicity. In fact, they don't want it. According to a new report from the Law Enforcement Legal Defense Fund. They are an incredibly well financed think tank corporation that whenever a Democrat prosecutor gets elected, they call you up and say, hey, we've got this system for bail reform. It's plug and play. Let us drop by and give you all the information you need, the how tos and you can get this going. And the progressive prosecutors all say yes, thank you very much. The Ren Collective is bankrolled by several left wing billionaires. Texas billionaire John Arnold, who invested more than $46 million into progressive criminal justice reform since 2019.
Michael
Now, do you think that like him and these people are all Marxist, it's just, you know, flood the zone with S and have the whole system collapsed because we don't like in capitalism and western democracies. Because if they don't believe that, that's actually an easier sell to me than you trying to explain to me how you think this is going to make society better, like even things out. How could you possibly believe that leaving a black proven to be violent person on the street helps anything?
Jack Armstrong
Right? Yeah, I know it seems crazy. You know the thing about dedicated Marxists is that they frame their argument in moral terms because they know not everybody's gonna believe their program. But if they can convince everybody that to do X is racist even though doing X has nothing to do with racism whatsoever and the people doing X are just normal people going about their lives. But as James Lindsay put it so so beautifully and simply the critical race theory deal and the neo Marxism is call something racist until you control it. And a lot of people fall for the moral argument. They don't realize where it's coming from. And they sit there being lectured by Robin d' Angelo about white fragility or something. And they're so desperate to be a good that they say, okay, okay, yes, we should empty the prisons because that's a legacy of, of, of what's the term, chattel slavery. Right, right. And we have systemic racism. So yes, we should empty the prisons. And they fall for these arguments.
Michael
Even if you believe the idea that there are thousands and thousands of black men in prison for simply possessing a joint, like that old story.
Jack Armstrong
Right.
Michael
How does that justify leaving some guy who's a violent lunatic on the street?
Jack Armstrong
I know, but that's, you're trying to make a logical argument against a cultish belief, an emotional belief. And that's, it's hard to argue logic to somebody who's just swept up in this emotional idea. This group, the Ren Collective, I'm talking about, and it sounds like something out of a spy novel, but you can, you can follow the money and follow the paperwork. And these people are acting active activists. The group has worked with some of the most left wing prosecutors in the country, including former San Francisco DA Chesso Bodine, Burlington, Vermont State's Attorney Sarah George, Monica, I'm sorry, Monique Worrell, the State Attorney in Florida, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And what they do is again furnish, plug and play far left prosecute policies for all these prosecutors offices. And they do it very, very quietly. Oh, you know what, I didn't get to this story. The final story here. I'll just give you the headline. Anti Israel Microsoft employees arrested for storming the President's office have partnered with a bail fund led by a murderer who bashed a man's skull with a hammer. And all of those violent demonstrators got arrested are getting bailed out by these radical left groups. So there's no repercussion for breaking the law. Armstrong and Getty.
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Episode: Who Took My Lucky Charms?!
Date: September 29, 2025
Podcast Host: iHeartPodcasts
This episode centers on the escalation of political "lawfare" in American politics, the normalization of prosecutorial tactics for partisan aims, and broader societal trends toward polarization and the erosion of civility—both in politics and culture. The hosts, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, dissect current headlines involving Trump, Biden, and the justice system, explore cultural chaos at sporting events, and reflect on commentary from figures like Bill Maher about the state of the American left. Listeners can expect a blend of political analysis, media criticism, and trademark Armstrong & Getty banter.
Timestamps: 03:22–09:53
Political Weaponization of the Justice System:
The hosts highlight the growing trend of both parties using the justice system as a weapon against political opponents, noting it's been occurring for decades and is not unique to the Trump era.
Cases Against Trump & Legal Motives:
Discussion of prosecutors like Alvin Bragg and Letitia James, who campaigned on targeting Trump, and the possibility that prosecutions are not always meant to result in convictions, but rather to inflict reputational damage.
Timestamps: 05:06–09:53
Media Bias:
The mainstream media is criticized for only highlighting legal provocations when they’re on one side of the aisle, failing to acknowledge the cycle’s bipartisan roots.
Martyr Creation & Satire:
The conversation turns to the unintended sanctification of figures like James Comey, with the hosts satirizing his cultural image.
Timestamps: 09:53–12:33
AI Chatbots for Minors:
Brief discussion on ChatGPT rolling out parental controls that may prove ineffective.
Personal Finance & Estate Planning Advocacy:
The hosts advocate for people to get estate plans and avoid government involvement in family inheritance issues.
Timestamps: 12:33–13:00
Timestamps: 16:14–22:37
Ryder Cup Recap:
Detailed breakdown of the U.S. golf team’s near-miraculous comeback and eventual loss to Europe.
Crowd Behavior & Civility:
Reports and anecdotes about unacceptable, unsportsmanlike conduct from the crowd.
Cultural Commentary:
Armstrong observes how a minority can ruin the experience for all, drawing parallels to other social settings like classrooms or weddings.
Timestamps: 27:32–36:50
Bill Maher’s Critique of the Democratic Party:
Key audio moments from Maher are played and discussed.
Social Contagion and Youth Trends:
Armstrong & Getty echo Maher's view on "trends" in teenage identity and how groupthink drives rapid cultural changes.
Hope for Moderation:
The hosts speculate that a centrist Democrat (perhaps a Rahm Emanuel-type) could break the spell by simply rejecting radicalism.
Timestamps: 37:06–48:31
Roots and Funders of Bail and Sentencing Reform:
The show pivots to the organizational and philanthropic push behind criminal justice reform. Nonprofits (like the MacArthur Foundation and the “Wren Collective”) fund extensive progressive prosecutor networks, promoting decarceration and cash bail elimination.
Unintended Consequences:
Case studies of violent crimes committed by repeat offenders released under reform programs.
Plug-and-Play Progressive Policies:
Consulting groups offer ready-made (often radical) reform blueprints to district attorneys across the U.S.—quietly, and funded by billionaires like John Arnold ($46 million since 2019).
Timestamps: 46:53–48:31
On Lawfare:
"Why can’t we say, yeah, everybody's doing it and it keeps getting worse. So how do we go about stopping it as opposed to pretending that only one side does it?"
– Joe Getty (04:51)
On the State of Political Conversation:
"Are you people just completely unaware of what Jack just said or are you just lying about it? I mean, because I could handle it better if they’re liars…"
– Jack Armstrong (05:06)
On Golf & Sportsmanship:
"Golf should be held to a higher standard than what was seen out there this week."
– Rory McIlroy, as paraphrased by Jack Armstrong (20:03)
On Social Trends Among Youth:
"To ignore social contagion among teens, especially teen girls, is to ignore like the number one thing that happens..."
– Jack Armstrong (33:11)
Bill Maher’s Critique:
"Smug self righteousness in the defense of some of the dumbest ideas...is not a formula that's really working for you…"
– Bill Maher (35:44)
Satire & Banter on Political Martyrdom:
(08:42–09:10)
The hosts lampoon James Comey's transformation into a supposed moral hero, imagining greeting cards and self-help quotes.
Golf Crowd Outrage & Stereotypes:
(20:22–20:31)
Michael and Jack exchange irreverent lines lampooning negative stereotypes shouted at European golfers:
Bill Maher on Progressive Overreach:
(29:27–31:55)
"[...] Gender is only a construct and sex is assigned at birth. And they say we’re not doing that. Transing kids by self-diagnosis with no age limit, no parental notification and no acknowledgement of social contagion. Not doing it. [...]"
– Bill Maher (30:41)
The episode blends the hosts’ trademark dry wit, pointed satire, and disbelief at the times, with frank political and cultural analysis. The tone shifts fluidly from exasperation ("The modern world is going to kill me") to outright ridicule of political posturing, and finally to deep concern over social trends and public policy consequences.
If you missed a segment, the hosts remind listeners:
"If you missed a segment or an hour, get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty On Demand." (24:08)
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