Whooptie S***

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: Whooptie S***
Date: September 17, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong and Katie Green (Joe Getty calling in later)

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into a whirlwind of top national news, sharp cultural commentary, and signature Armstrong & Getty humor. Jack Armstrong and Katie Green explore the resurgence of cocaine in American society and cartel power dynamics, discuss the fallout from the high-profile assassination of Charlie Kirk, analyze political theater on Capitol Hill, and riff on everything from weird headlines to the obstacles of owning a giraffe. The episode also spotlights the increasingly toxic intersection of social media, celebrity, and outrage culture, and features pointed critiques of high-level politicking and media narratives.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Cocaine Surge & Cartel Power Shifts

Timestamps: 01:23–04:47

• Main Focus: The emergence of El Senor Mencho as the world’s new top drug kingpin, and the stunning resurgence of cocaine use in the U.S.
• Key Insights:
  • El Senor Mencho rose to power as Mexico’s biggest drug trafficker, partly due to cartel infighting and U.S. efforts to suppress the fentanyl trade.
  • Cocaine is now cheaper and purer in the U.S. than ever before.
  • “Consumption in the Western United States… has increased 154% since 2019.” (Jack Armstrong, 02:58)
  • Social stigma around cocaine is lessening among new users, with the drug now associated with “cool, successful people,” unlike the crack epidemic of the 1990s.
  • “For new users, cocaine doesn’t carry the stigma of fentanyl addiction… right now it’s back being seen as like what cool successful people do.” (Jack Armstrong, 05:19)

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2. Federal Reserve Rate Cut & Housing Market Realities

Timestamps: 06:45–08:23

• Main Focus: The Federal Reserve’s anticipated interest rate cuts and the stubborn realities of today’s housing market.
• Key Insights:
  • Host expects Jerome Powell to announce a widely predicted 0.25% rate cut.
  • 30-year fixed mortgage rates hover at 6.3%—historically low, but high compared to recent memory.
  • Many homeowners are “locked in” with low rates, making them reluctant to sell.
  • “We’re never going to get back to home interest rates that we had there for a while ever. It may never happen again in the history of capitalism.” (Jack Armstrong, 07:25)

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3. Trump Visits the UK: Royal Meetings & Political Optics

Timestamps: 08:13–09:01

• Main Focus: Donald Trump’s state visit to the UK, media spin, and debates over its significance.
• Memorable Moment:
  • “That’s the way I feel about President Trump meeting the king. Whoopty S.” (Jack Armstrong, 08:37)
  • Katie and Jack riff on “Whoopty S”—a dismissive phrase Jack credits to his father.

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4. Assassination of Charlie Kirk—Suspects & Media Response

Timestamps: 09:01–15:37, 35:12–40:29

• Killer's Identity and Motive:
  • Details about the shooter’s background, motives, and communication with their trans roommate/boyfriend.
  • Shooter attempted to hide evidence by dismantling the rifle and leaving tools behind but was caught via DNA.
  • “He left a screwdriver up on the roof where he actually shot Charlie Kirk from, and they got his DNA off of that.” (Katie Green, 10:48)
• Media Handling:
  • Critique of emotional angles in news coverage—ABC described suspect’s texts with their boyfriend as “very touching… a very intimate portrait.” (ABC News, 35:58)
  • Jack’s reaction: “That’s not the focus of the story. That’s a weird way to look at that.” (Jack Armstrong, 36:26)
• Conspiracy Fodder:
  • An elderly attendee, George Zinn, confessed to “distract” police from the real shooter—fuelling conspiracy theories.
  • “Is it even conceivable… he immediately thinks, ‘I know what I'll do, I'll yell it was me, I'm the shooter, so that the person who did it can get away?’ I just—find that very difficult to believe…” (Jack Armstrong, 40:13)

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5. Political Theater: Capitol Hill Hearings

Timestamps: 20:33–29:47

• Focus: Testy congressional hearings with FBI Director Cash Patel, highlights of political grandstanding, and growing dysfunction.
• Key Exchanges:
  • Fiery clashes between Cash Patel and Senators Cory Booker and Adam Schiff.
  • “You are a political buffoon at best.” (Cash Patel to Adam Schiff, 27:33)
  • Chair Chuck Grassley ultimately mutes Schiff’s microphone to restore order.
  • Jack’s criticism: “We need to figure something out. Maybe they should do it… written… It would eliminate all the showmanship…” (Jack Armstrong, 26:01)
• Epstein Connection:
  • Probing questions on why Ghislaine Maxwell was moved to a lower-security prison, intensifying intrigue and mutual accusations.
  • Cash Patel throws barbs: “We have countlessly proven you [Schiff] to be a liar in Russia in January 6, biggest fraud to ever sit in the United States Senate.” (Cash Patel, 25:25)
• Meta-Commentary:
  • The hosts mock the self-promotional nature of politicians during hearings.
  • “Each congressperson, Senator, their goal is to get on the evening news… There’s really no attempt to accomplish anything beyond that.” (Jack Armstrong, 23:33)

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6. Headlines Round-Up and Quirky Side Comments

Timestamps: 15:48–18:53, 34:31–35:12

• News headlines blend serious and absurd:
  • Families suing over AI chatbot’s role in teen suicides.
  • “Jerry” from Ben & Jerry’s leaves, citing silenced activism; Jack jokes, “No, it’s not [about more than ice cream]. You’re an ice cream company. Just be a non-important hippie there in Vermont.” (18:33)
  • “Beauty sleep isn’t a myth,” neurology now says—Jack quips, “That’s why I look like a lizard.” (18:47)
  • Babylon Bee satirical headline: “Satan blowing up as top influencer on Blue Sky.” (19:05)
• Oddball controversy over American tennis star Taylor Townsend apologizing for her comments about Chinese food: “See, that’s the sort of controversy we need in this world.” (Jack Armstrong, 35:12)

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7. Cultural Commentary & Show Humor

Timestamps: 13:38–13:55, recurring throughout

• Quips about pet camels, attempted giraffe ownership, and “Wednesday being camel day.”
• “It’s harder to get a giraffe than you would think… It becomes a whole thing…” (Jack Armstrong, 13:54)
• Running jokes about modular sofas—a clear thread of in-show advertising parodied by the hosts.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Cocaine’s Comeback:
  • “Consumption in the Western United States… has increased 154% since 2019.” (Jack Armstrong, 02:58)
• On Mortgage Rates:
  • “We’re never going to get back to home interest rates that we had there for a while ever. It may never happen again in the history of capitalism.” (Jack Armstrong, 07:25)
• On Royal Meetings:
  • “That’s the way I feel about President Trump meeting the king. Whoopty S.” (Jack Armstrong, 08:37)
• On Media Framing of Tragedy:
  • “That’s not the focus of the story. That’s a weird way to look at that.” (Jack Armstrong, 36:26)
• On Congressional Hearings:
  • “You are a political buffoon at best.” (Cash Patel to Adam Schiff, 27:33)
  • “Each congressperson, Senator, their goal is to get on the evening news… There’s really no attempt to accomplish anything beyond that.” (Jack Armstrong, 23:33)
• On Social Media Outrage:
  • “…every single post on this woman’s Instagram right now is flooded with comments: ‘You followed Charlie Kirk, you’re a Nazi.’ And it’s like, yeah, they’re unhinged.” (Katie Green, 22:43)
• On the Giraffe Dream:
  • “It’s harder to get a giraffe than you would think… It becomes a whole thing when you decide to get a giraffe.” (Jack Armstrong, 13:54)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:23 — Episode begins: Drug kingpins & U.S. cocaine use
• 04:47 — Fentanyl’s decline, cocaine’s “coolness” resurgence
• 06:45 — Fed rate cut and housing market discussion
• 08:13 — Trump’s UK visit & “Whoopty S”
• 09:01 — Kirk assassination: Shooter’s motives, text exchanges
• 15:09 — The screwdriver & evidence in the Kirk case
• 16:19 — Suspect George Zinn distracts police with false confession
• 20:33 — Cash Patel, Adam Schiff, and hearing antics
• 27:33 — Cash Patel calls Schiff a “political buffoon”
• 35:12 — Media’s “touching” angle on the murder
• 40:13 — Discussion on plausibility of Zinn’s distraction ploy
• 13:54/Throughout — Camel/giraffe/sofa running in-jokes

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Tone & Style

The episode weaves sharp, skeptical news analysis with irreverent humor and moments of cultural exasperation. Jack and Katie maintain an informal, sardonic tone (“That’s the way I feel about President Trump meeting the king. Whoopty S.”), balancing serious news with a playful undercurrent and a willingness to call out political posturing, media nonsense, and social media outrage.

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For Listeners: Why This Episode Matters

Whether you crave a deeper understanding of headline news, behind-the-scenes power dynamics, or just a few solid laughs at the absurdity of modern America, this episode encapsulates Armstrong & Getty’s distinctive blend: skeptical reporting, cultural critique, and no-nonsense honesty—all with an undercurrent of wit.

If you missed the show, this summary captures the fast-paced, insightful, and entertaining heart of the conversation.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Katie Green]

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here. Armstrong, get ready. Live from Studio C, a dimly lit room deep within the bowels of the Armstrong and Giddy communications compound. And hey y', all, today we're under the tutelage of El Senor Mencho. El Senor Mencho. I'll explain what that is in just a little bit. Joe is not here. He's playing golf at some fancy, fancy golf course. I think he's going to call in at some point. He's playing at one of those golf courses that you gotta know somebody special to play at in a Monterey, I think. Or he's just playing pebble beach, which is no minor thing either. But that is a public course. If you don't know anything about golf, that's a very big deal. Some of the best golf courses in the very world. Joe's a big golfer and that's where he is and he will call in later. What is El Senor Mencho? El Senor Mencho is the biggest drug kingpin in the world right now. He is in Mexico. He has been able to displace some of the bigger cartels down there that you've heard of for a variety of reasons, partially because the biggest cartels have been at war with each other and the Trump administration decided to crack down on fentanyl, as we all know, cracking down on a lot of drugs, sea boats exploding at sea, et cetera. But it has opened up an avenue for this guy, Senor Mencho. The biggest drug kingping in the world for cocaine has made a comeback in the United States. And apparently America's love of cocaine is driving Mexico's new drug king to cash in. Here's some of the stats that I thought were interesting that I did not know anything about because I'm not in that world. I've never been in that world, but I'm certainly not in that world now. Cocaine sold in the United States right now is cheaper than it has been in forever and more pure than it has been forever. Consumption in the Western United States, hey, that's where I live. Has increased 154% since 2019.

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[Jack Armstrong]

How about that? And it's funny that I had that conversation. Did you hear that conversation I had yesterday, Katie? I was watching Bill Maher show is actually the episode where he had on Charlie Kirk from just a couple of months ago. And Charlie Kirk, if you know Charlie Kirk's an act at all, he doesn't drink, he doesn't do drugs of any kind, etc. Etc. And see, he and Bill Maher were talking about that and Charlie Kirk was making the argument that he said, I assume since he legalized pot, that pot sales are up. And Bill Maher said, you know what, I don't know. But he said, when I go to Hollywood parties, the young people don't have any interest in pot. They have interest in the old fashioned hard drugs like cocaine. I said that yesterday and Joe and I were both like, wow, that's interesting. I didn't think anybody was doing that sort of thing anymore because of fentanyl and all that. Well, here we are today with the Wall Street Journal saying cocaine is more pure than, than it has been in many, many years, the United States. And cocaine use is up 154% since 2019 through, through the whole pandemic and everything. Whoa. And it's the belief that there ain't no fentanyl in that. The Trump administration and, and warring factions have really taken down a lot of the fentanyl trade.

[Katie Green]

You know, I know Joe said this a few times, but I still don't understand. And I get that fentanyl's down, but how you could even play that kind.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of game, I don't know either. You're just hoping that, I guess you just hope it's true. I mean, obviously people believe. And a part of that is how you get to be the world's richest drug kingpin. I guess word gets out that your stuff is pure and people are. I don't know how you trust your drug dealer that he's giving you this stuff from this guy and not from somewhere else.

[Katie Green]

Oh no, come on. He's a good guy, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

According to the Wall Street Journal for new users, cocaine doesn't carry the stigma of fentanyl addiction. Middle class addicts and the tragic spectacle of homeless crack cocaine users in the 1990s helped put a lid on America's last copaint cocaine epidemic. But right now it's back seen as like back being seen as like what cool successful people do as opposed to people on the street leaning against the overpass with a hole in their leg from tranq. But so good luck to the those you out there doing the cocaine. So I hate that news though. I mean because I got two teenagers headed out into the world. We'll see where this goes. The big news of the day and I could have made. The general manager is Jerome Powell, the chairman of the Fed. As he is going to announce a rate cut today. The media is acting like it's a drama. It is not. 100% of economists believe he's going to cut rates today. So that's a done deal. The only open question is thank you for that, Michael. The only question is how much? And practically all economists say a quarter point, some say possibly a half point. But the market has already reacted to that news. The effect on home mortgages and credit card rates is gonna be pretty dang small. It's just, it's the first step in the right direction. If it continues to go this way to where people want to get, we're never going to get back to home interest rates that we had there for a while ever. It'll never, it may never happen again in the history of capitalism and but it's tough because I've got in my head just like you've got in your head that a 3% mortgage makes sense. I'm not getting a house until the mortgages get down to three. Well, it's never going to happen. Currently a 30 year mortgage is averaging 6.3% across the nation. That sounds insanely high based on what we've had for quite a few years. Historically it's quite low. Historically you'd run out and buy a house if you had one. You'd go out and buy another one to, to take advantage of these 6% mortgage rates, but they feel really, really high. If you're locked into something in the threes, you're not going to sell your house because you go out and buy a smaller house at 6.3% with maybe a higher mortgage payment every month than you're actually making for a smaller house. I mean, why would you do that unless you have to move? So anyway, the, the rate adjustment today is not going to be enough to shake loose the housing market or make much of a dent in your credit card debt. Maybe we'll talk to some expert a little bit later about that. But they are going to a lower rates today that's almost guaranteed. Donald Trump is in Great Britain. He's having a fancy pants dinner with the Prime Minister and going to meet the King later. I keep forgetting it's not a queen anymore. She passed. Long live the king. King Charles. And so they'll meet and whoop whoop DS I almost said a bad word.

[Katie Green]

Well, I'm glad you had some restraint.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's a phrase my dad had used before. Whoop D s saying the actual. I like that as a phrase too. Whoopty, whoopty square.

[Katie Green]

I'm going to start using that in.

[Jack Armstrong]

Terms of, yeah, big deal. And that's the way I feel about President Trump meeting the king. Whoopty S. So anyway, there are some news that could come out of that because they're probably going to, they are going to have a one on one meeting, Trump and Starmer, the Prime Minister and they're going to talk about Ukraine guaranteed. And hopefully some news will leak out of that. As far as the Charlie Kirk assassination, the latest is all these texts that we've learned between the killer and his boyfriend roommate. You got to help me out on this. I haven't been following this closely. When they say trans roommate, lover, boyfriend, do they mean it was a girl and now it's a boy?

[Katie Green]

No, it is, it's a boyfriend.

[Jack Armstrong]

I shouldn't be saying it, but this person was a girl and is now a boy. Or is a boy and is, has always been a boy but is hoping to become a girl.

[Katie Green]

That the latter. So it is. He is still a boy working on transitioning to be a girl.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. So anyway, the text to his boyfriend and we'll read him verbatim a little bit later, but man has some rough stuff in there.

[Katie Green]

Oh, and the media going on and on about how touching. Yeah, it was.

[Jack Armstrong]

I saw that, I saw that. Emotional touching moments between the two. He's a freaking cold blooded assassin. It doesn't draw the boyfriend girlfriend into it. Anyway, they might be a perfectly nice person, I don't know. And they're, they're cooperating Completely with law enforcement, which is nice. But, yeah, some of the texts about, I just can't stand his hate anymore, I've got to do something, and then explaining how. So his. His plan was, according to the text to the boyfriend, was he dropped that gun in the woods. I guess he tried to go back and get it, but there was too many cops around and he was planning to try to go back later and get the gun. And he said to the roommate boyfriend that if I can get the gun, I think I'm gonna get away with this. They won't have any way to. To figure out who I am or track me. So he dropped that rifle in the woods, thinking he could go back and get it and then dispose of it.

[Katie Green]

Well, and he made a big mistake. He left. Apparently he left a screwdriver up on the roof where he actually shot Charlie Kirk from, and they got his DNA off of that. So he would have been screwed either way.

[Jack Armstrong]

What did he need the screwdriver for?

[Katie Green]

I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Did he think there wasn't going to be this level of FBI manhunt action going on after he shot as high profile a person as Charlie Kirk then? He planned poorly, but he thought, damn well, they'll just look around a little bit, they'll leave, people will move on, and I'll go back to the woods and get my gun. Wasn't the best plan in the world for somebody who supposedly had a very, very high iq. But we can get into the actual details of those texts and yeah, we'll listen to that news reporter who talked about the touching moments between the two. You are. That's a sick way to look at this.

[Katie Green]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Also, Cash Patel, who runs the FBI, was in front of Congress yesterday and he got into some great screaming matches with senators in the classic clown circus way that all of these hearings turn out to be. I think they should ban hearings. I don't think they do any of us any good. But we'll play you some highlights from that a little bit later. Might check in with one of. One of our military analysts on where things are with Israel with 150 strikes in Gaza. You know, Gaza is not a very big area. I don't know if you are aware of this. If you ever looked on a map, all of Gaza is smaller than the footprint of Chicago. The entire area, country, whatever you want to call it's not a country, obviously is pretty small. So 150 strikes in that area. Imagine 150 strikes on Chicago. That would seem like a lot, but we'll check in on that war and a whole bunch of other stuff. Let's start the show officially before I get in trouble at the FCC and they crack me down and throw me in prison. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this is a Wednesday hump day. That's why we have a camel in the studio. Kind of large it is. It takes up a lot of space. And Michael's job is to clean up after it, which is, you know, another reason he doesn't like Wednesdays. I hate him. Wednesday, September 17, the year 2025. We are Armstrong and Getty. We approve of this program and we will begin the show following all FCC rules and regulations at mark or too late. Getting his race down, I guess. Who knows? You never know. We're too late. But he's done a lousy job. Rates. The rate should be much lower. Much, much lower. That's Donald Trump referring to the federal chairman that he chose as too late. He's done a poor job. He's called him stupid in the past and said he's like talking to a chair. Anyway, Jerome Powell will lower the interest rates a little bit later. No. We had a camel out at the farm for a while. Remember when I wanted to get a giraffe? Michael, that was before you were on Katie, who's trying to get a giraffe. We had a camel, okay, for a while and pretty nice beast. It walked around with the sheep and the horse and everything else.

[Katie Green]

Did it spit?

[Jack Armstrong]

It didn't spit on me. I'm sure it spit occasionally, but it never, it never spit on me. That's a pretty decent beast. But it's harder to get a giraffe than you would think once you really look into it. You need all new fencing and yeah, it becomes a whole. It becomes a whole thing when you decide to get a giraffe.

[Katie Green]

I can imagine that could be complicated.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. So what are you gonna do? We got Katie's headlines on the way and we'll get into some of that news that we mentioned. Here's our text line 415295 KFTC.

[Katie Green]

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Katie came across the details. So the reason the idiot murderer had a screwdriver up there on the roof and left it behind, well, this isn't the reason he left it behind. That was an accident and had DNA on it, which will probably be enough to convict him. And they're gonna shoot him. So more on that later. The death penalty. But he had the screwdriver. He had taken apart the rifle so he could carry it in two parts in his pants to get up there and then had to reassemble it. So that makes sense.

[Katie Green]

And then he left it behind.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, you'd probably be in a little bit of a panic when you just taken someone's life, right? God dang it. I don't know how anybody does that. Okay, let's find out what's going on. Headlines with Katie Green.

[Katie Green]

All right, we'll start with Breitbart. Older man initially arrested after Charlie Kirk. Kirk shooting confessed to distracting police from the real shooter.

[Jack Armstrong]

I saw this story. We've got to go into the details on this. How weird. And that is going to help conspiracy. People think that this was more than just a lone gunman who would have those thoughts immediately. It was me. It was me to distract the police to help somebody get away. I mean that. Who would think that?

[Katie Green]

Well, a guy who within further investigation was also just busted for possessing and distributing child pornography.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, he's all kinds of crazy. But that's still say more on that coming up. That's a heck of a story from abc.

[Katie Green]

The Federal Reserve set to unveil its latest decision on the level of interest rates.

[Jack Armstrong]

I call him too late. He's like talking to a chair.

[Katie Green]

From the New York Times. Israel pounds Gaza City as fears mount for hostages and those inside.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I'm sure. And the chance of getting the hostages out alive is very, very low. The problem is after all of this time, Israel's made the determination and I think they're right. They ain't getting the hostages back alive anyway.

[Katie Green]

And they think there's still 20 that are alive.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that is rough.

[Katie Green]

From NBC 4 arrested after photos of Trump and Epstein projected onto Windsor Castle during president's UK visit.

[Jack Armstrong]

I saw that. So Joe was in England and found this out. Epstein is a bigger story there in London than it is here in the United States.

[Katie Green]

Really?

[Jack Armstrong]

Because of Prince Andrew and everything like that? Oh, yeah. One of the reasons they're keeping Trump away from crowds is there's concerns there's gonna be all kinds of people screaming. Epstein questions at him.

[Katie Green]

From cnn. More families sue character AI developer alleging app played role in teens suicide and suicide attempts.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that is wild. I haven't had conversations. Maybe I should just to check it out. I haven't had like heart to heart conversations with the, with the chatbots.

[Katie Green]

I have.

[Jack Armstrong]

It feels weird. You have?

[Katie Green]

I have. And it's. It's very personable.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like you feel like you're talking to somebody.

[Katie Green]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

It passes the Turing test. It seems like a human, right?

[Katie Green]

And you know, to a kid, I mean, I'm 36 years old. To a 14 year old, that's a human.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure.

[Katie Green]

From the Washington Post. Jerry leaves Ben and Jerry's saying parent company silenced his activism.

[Jack Armstrong]

I saw that. Man, those ice cream dudes are crazy. Their politics are nuts. Their ice cream is delicious.

[Katie Green]

His quote goes, it's about more than just ice cream.

[Jack Armstrong]

All right?

[Katie Green]

No, it's not. You're an ice cream company.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just be a non important hippie there in Vermont. Go ahead.

[Katie Green]

Thank you. From study finds beauty sleep isn't a myth. Neurologist explains how rest can keep your skin youthful.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't doubt that. That's why I look like the way I look a lizard. That's why I look like a lizard.

[Katie Green]

I'm a raisin.

[Jack Armstrong]

Not enough sleep.

[Katie Green]

And finally, from the Babylon Bee, Satan blowing up as top influencer on blue Sky.

[Jack Armstrong]

So a bunch of those stories we need to fill out. Especially that old man who distracted the cops. And he did a good job of it. I mean, that had all the attention there in the first 15, 20 minutes. If you were following the assassination on Twitter, would you come up with that off the top of your head? Or was he working with the numb nuts?

[Katie Green]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

A lot on the way. I hope you can stay here. If you miss a sign, you get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand.

[Katie Green]

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[Jack Armstrong]

You can't lecture me.

[Cash Patel]

My time's over.

[Jack Armstrong]

You may be the target.

[Cash Patel]

I'm not good at anything, but I.

[Jack Armstrong]

Am not afraid of you, Mr. Chairman. Not afraid of you. Verbal fireworks on Capitol Hill today as FBI FBI Director Cash Patel took incoming criticism from both sides of the aisle. It seems your plate's pretty full. I would urge you get with your people and if you think you need more people, now's the time to do it. Will you look? I will look, sir. So that's a little bit of the hearing yesterday that at the FBI Director Cash Patel there in front of some senators. And that was Senator Cory Booker yelling, you can't intimidate me or frighten me or I'm not scared of you or whatever it was. He said I wasn't paying attention. And we'll have more of that one because that was pretty fiery a little bit later, but we got a different one to feature this segment. I forgot I came across this. There continues to be a lot of blowback around the horrifying assassination for people who are either cheering it on or taking odd views on it. Former Batman Michael Keaton got the rough edge of the Internet yesterday as he was giving a speech somewhere where he said the irony was he was killed with a gun. And that is unbelievable because he believed in the second Amendment and people's right to own a gun. I do not get how that is ironic. What is that?

[Katie Green]

It's nothing.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's nothing. It's a nothing. Unless. Unless you're taking some sort of absolutist. You think there's a world we could live in where nobody had guns? I mean, a deer rifle. Nobody has ever even considered the idea that we're going to outlaw deer rifles, which is what was used to kill Poor Charlie Kirk. So I don't even. I don't even. I don't. What is your point? I guess it makes you sound. You feel like that makes you sound enlightened or cool around this issue. I don't know.

[Katie Green]

Well, and these people are unhinged. You know. You know who Jennifer Coolidge is? She was Stiffler's mom in American Pie.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay.

[Katie Green]

Yeah, she's great. She's such a wonderful person. I've actually had the privilege of meeting her. What these people are doing is they're going to all of their favorite celebrities and seeing who they follow. And Jennifer Coolidge followed Charlie Kirk's page. Every single post on this woman's Instagram right now is flooded with comments. You followed Charlie Kirk, you're a Nazi. And it's like, yeah, they're unhinged.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. And part of it is the belief of, and I definitely think this is mostly the left, that the real world is online. That's where everything important occurs is in the, you know, the direct messages of Twitter people or Blue sky people. And that is not where the real world is. But.

[Katie Green]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, we'll have more on that a little bit later. So back to the hearing yesterday with the FBI director there. These things always devolve into shouting matches with people talking over the top of each other. I don't know if anything is ever accomplished in these hearings. As I've pointed out many times before, and this is true, each congressperson, Senator, their goal is to get on the evening news in their state or district looking like a hero. And that's. That's. There's really no attempt to accomplish anything beyond that. But anyway, here's Adam Schiff, who I'm embarrassed to say is my. One of my US Senators here in California.

[Adam Schiff]

I want to show you one last question.

[Jack Armstrong]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Here's Adam Schiff. Schiff is one of the senators here in the state of California. And I think he is a absolute, complete, top to bottom fraud. And they had just got into the discussion of why was G dog Ghislaine Maxwell moved from a real prison to a phony prison, which is a question I actually have. But he is talking to the FBI director about it. And then it started to go off the rails.

[Adam Schiff]

Let me ask you one last question. And that is right after she gives this testimony in front of an FBI agent, among others, she's transferred to a minimum security prison not suitable for a sex offender like herself. Who made that decision and why?

[Jack Armstrong]

The Bureau of Prisons, the Bureau of.

[Adam Schiff]

Decisions made it in prisons, the Bureau of Prisons decided on their own, without any consultation with Blanche or anyone else, that they were going to suddenly, after this interview, completely unrelated to this interview, completely unrelated to anything she said, move her to a prison not suitable for a sex offender. You want the American people to believe that? Do you think they're stupid?

[Cash Patel]

No, I think the American people believe the truth, that I'm not in the weeds on the everyday movements of inmates. What I am doing is protecting this country, providing historic reform and combating the weaponization of intelligence by the likes of you. And we have countlessly proven you to be a liar in Russia in January 6, biggest fraud to ever sit in the United States Senate. I am disgraced to this institution.

[Jack Armstrong]

You stop it for a second, Michael, Just because my head's going to explode. We'll get back to this for a second. But.

[Katie Green]

These are so pointless.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, they really are. We need to figure something out. Maybe they should do it. It should be written. You, you, you send questions and then they send a written response. And if we all want to read the questions response, we could do that. That might actually be a pretty good idea because it would. It would eliminate all the showmanship and the talking over each other and all that sort of stuff. Now, I actually am very interested in the why did she get moved to the lesser prison? And whose idea was that? Everything like that. But it wasn't the FBI director. He doesn't have anything to do with it. And then he turns it into Russiagate and all that sort of stuff, which Adam Schiff was the greatest proponent of and is a complete fraud, as I already said. But let's get back to them talking.

[Adam Schiff]

At the same time, I'm not surprised.

[Cash Patel]

I'm not surprised that you continue to lie from your perch and put on a show so you can go raise money for your charade. You are a political buffoon at best.

[Adam Schiff]

Well, you can take an internal.

[Cash Patel]

Take it to the bank that the FBI is protecting this country and the state and citizens of California. Yeah, we are bringing historic reform, Internet point of order. But all you care about is a child sex predator that was prosecuted by a prior administration and the Obama Justice Department and the Biden Justice Department did squat. And what did President Trump do? Bring new charges courageously. And what have we done? The most transparent FBI Director in History. 33,000 pages of information to you. I challenge you to say anything credibly to the truth. Go ahead and run to the cameras.

[Jack Armstrong]

Where you want to go.

[Cash Patel]

Now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Be quiet. Both of you be quiet. Said the 105 year old Chuck Grassley of Iowa.

[Katie Green]

I just bang that gavel, dude.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know how we break out of these hearings that turn into this all the time. Now, Cash Patel making a good point there. That needs to be made over and over. I would prefer he makes it calmly. But the Obama administration had this information. The Biden administration had this information. If you wanted to do anything as a bunch of Democrats around Epstein, you had the chance. There's any there there. You could have released it at the time. The whole Epstein thing, I don't get it at all, but I guess so at some point. Maybe we don't have that or maybe it doesn't work for audio. The Schiff wouldn't stop talking. So Grassley, who is the senior member there in the chair of the committee, had the ability to turn off Adam Schiff's microphone. So Adam Schiff's microphone was turned off for a while. Or maybe that's what was going on there. Is that why Hanson, is that okay? So that's why Patel was going on and on and Schiff stopped talking. Shift's microphone got turned off.

[Katie Green]

Beautiful.

[Jack Armstrong]

By the chairman.

[Katie Green]

Now, while these things are stupid, I do appreciate the political buffoon line.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. Yeah. And we could isolate that. I thought that was really cool. You are a buffoon. And the ship said, well, his response was, well, you didn't know what to say to that. Exactly. I'm a buffoon, am I? I guess that's the advantage of have being in the majority. So that's your party that holds the little microphone button because obviously you could have turned off either one of their microphones or both their microphones there when they're shouting over each other. But they turned off poor Adam Schiff's microphone. Thinnest neck I've ever seen. Yes. Michael.

[Katie Green]

You didn't say no when you know.

[Jack Armstrong]

He'S asked that question. He just kind of went, well, are you a buffoon? Well, you know, you got like, you caught me. Yeah, caught me.

[Katie Green]

Busted.

[Jack Armstrong]

Caught me with my buffoonery. Is my buffoonery that gave me away. I had another point to make. What was it? When you get to be old, your points flit out of your head now and then Patel and yelling each other and the FBI and Adam Schiff and his thin neck and not a long hitter.

[Katie Green]

Mike being turned off.

[Jack Armstrong]

Mike being turned off. I know I had a point. I don't remember.

[Katie Green]

It'll come back.

[Jack Armstrong]

It'll come back eventually. Whether we get anything out of those hearings. I really don't know. Maybe the point will pop into my head while I'm talking about price picks, which you should get into if you have strong sports opinions. And if you're a sports fan, you do. You've got opinions. Put your money where your mouth is. Make money off of your opinions with with prize picks. It's a simple way to play. First you download the app and then you just pick more or less on between two and six player stat projections. You look at what their their stats are projected to be for the, you know, the weekend big game Sunday night or whatever and you think oh, he's got to catch more passes than that or fewer or whatever. If you get your picks right, you could cash in. Prize picks is the best way to get in on the action on sports in more than 40 plus states including California, Texas and Georgia. Win cash from your opinions. Download the app today and use the Code Armstrong to get 50 lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. That's the code ARMSTRONG to get $50 in lineups after you play your first five dollar lineup. Prize picks it's good to be right and there's some exciting games going on this weekend. And Joe Burrow is out for weeks for the Bengals, which really, really sucks if you're a Bengals fan. So we got the Cory Booker and Cash Patel screaming at each other. We'll separate that by a couple hours because I can only take so much of that. I do want to hear the Corey Burke version, but I can't hear them back to back. So we'll separate that with some other stuff. We got some good guests coming up throughout the show to talk about a whole bunch of different things. Lonnie Chen a little bit later knows more about California politics than anybody I know, talking about that ridiculous referendum that Gavin Newsom is trying to get going in November to redistrict. Right? That's his attempt to take on Texas's redistricting. It's really Gavin Newsom's attempt to raise his name and face above everybody else to be the Democratic nominee. To that point. Governor Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania came out and gave a speech yesterday, guaranteed. It's funny, the first thing I thought when I saw Josh Shapiro on one of the cable news channels giving a speech yesterday and he was talking about the political discourse in this country and how we need to tone it down. And remember some nut job tried to burn down his house while he was in it. Him and his wife. That was a horrible story. It could have been really horrible. Anyway, the reason he gave that speech yesterday was he's like, Gavin Newsom's getting all the attention. I need to raise my profile a little bit. Gavin Newsom is going to get his hind end kicked on November 4th because that prop he's pushing is polling horribly, even among Democrats. But we'll talk about that with a couple different people and the prospects for Gavin Newsom of being the nominee and running against Trump in his third term or whatever it's going to be, Please. So the story of the old man who pretended he was the shooter to draw the attention away from the actual shooter. The details on that are interesting and I just, I don't know if I'm buying it. That's coming up next. Stay tuned.

[Cash Patel]

You are a political buffoon at best.

[Katie Green]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Nobody move. Nobody. If you're a woman, Philly Karen is a pretty good costume. If you're like a middle aged woman, that's a good costume. And it's easy to throw together. That's what we're all looking for, right? Something really easy.

[Katie Green]

Absolutely.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you throw on a hat before I get to real important stuff. This is the kind of headline that I miss back when Joe and I, before the world went crazy, like 10 years ago or whenever it was. And we would, like, be scrambling to find things to talk about. This is the sort of thing that would make the news. American tennis star Taylor Townsend has apologized from the bottom of her heart for making disparaging comments about Chinese food. See, that's the sort of controversy we need in this world.

[Katie Green]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

American tennis star badmouth Chinese food. Good or bad, up or down? How outraged are you? So this is a little from ABC News last night and their report on the latest with the scumbag killer, the.

[ABC News Reporter]

Man accused of gunning down conservative activist Charlie Kirk in front of hundreds of people appearing before a judge for the first time, now charged with seven counts, including aggravated murder. Prosecutors said they would be seeking the death penalty.

[Jack Armstrong]

So on the death penalty, they have the firing squad there in the Utah. So gotta believe that a guy who shot another guy to death standing there and getting shot to death himself would be. I wouldn't mind seeing it go out that way. Here's the part that angered people from ABC News.

[ABC News Reporter]

We have seen an alleged murder with such specific text messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden, how it was placed, what was on it. But also it was very touching in a way that I think many of us didn't expect. A very intimate portrait into this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect himself, with him repeatedly calling his roommate, who was transitioning, calling him my love and I want to protect you, my love.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. It's worse hearing it than in print. In print, I thought, yeah, that's kind of a weird angle to take. But hearing it, it was really touching. Yeah. That's not the focus of the story. That's a weird way to look at that. You got a guy who at that point, had he just killed Charlie Kirk? Was this just before? Depends on which text you're looking at. But you got a murderous scumbag. Let's not get into how touching his romance was with his boyfriend, girlfriend. That's weird. That's a weird thing to do.

[Adam Schiff]

That's just.

[Katie Green]

They're just reaching at this point.

[Jack Armstrong]

And we'll get into those texts a little bit later because they are kind of interesting. So story that we've already alluded to more, the details on it. And it's weird if you were following this on Twitter, which is the way to follow all news stories. If there's a big story that breaks the news and you're flipping on cable TV or looking at the New York Times, you're going to be hours behind getting information. You can get information immediately on Twitter. Now you have to be careful because a lot of it turns out to be fake or wrong. But the real information is usually in there somewhere if you dig hard enough. There was a video of an old guy being like held down on the ground by cops and looked like maybe being cuffed. That came out. Wow. Within moments of Charlie Kirk being shot that I saw on Twitter.

[Katie Green]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And thought, okay, well they got the old guy. He was right there. And then it was later announced, no, this person had been let go and was like, okay, boy, that was a heck of a snake. Poor old guy. How did that happen to him? Well, this is how it happened. I'm reading from the New York Post version. This guy named George Zinn, elderly rabble rouser who allegedly hindered Utah authorities, was being charged with a number of things yesterday, including child porn. Don't get confused by the child porn. That's a separate thing. It's awful. He's a scumbag, but that's a separate thing. This 71 year old man started yelling, I did it, I did it. I'm the shooter.

[Katie Green]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I mean, immediately after Charlie Kirk gets at the bolt in the neck and goes over backwards and dies. Right. He was taken into custody or they grabbed him right there and then eventually he fessed up to not being the shooter and said that he was just trying to. He actually said that he was just trying to help the shooter get away. Yeah.

[Katie Green]

Which means authorities went all hands on deck with this guy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Katie Green]

The actual, the other scumbag, the actual killer got away.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now they, they, they grabbed his phone, you know, because they thought he had done it. And when they were going through his phone, they found all kinds of child porn pics. And now he's going to prison for that because he's a child porn weirdo. But is it even conceivable? So he obviously was, did not like Charlie Kirk. He was somebody who was there to like hate watch Charlie Kirk. Is it even conceivable? It'd be like if I went to. I don't know, I don't know. Would be a good example of some, some lefty pundit who I can't stand. And I just wanted to see what they had to say. But is it even conceivable that he was there? A shot rings out Charlie Kirk goes over backwards and he immediately thinks I know what I'll do, I'll yell it was me, I'm the shooter so that the person who did it can get away. I just, I just find that very difficult to believe that anybody, especially a 71 year old man, would have the presence of mind to come up with that plan immediately with one second's notice.

[Katie Green]

That that's his knee jerk reaction is to start yelling that.

[Jack Armstrong]

That just seems unlikely.

[Katie Green]

Now I'm seeing this guy is known for being kind of a rabble rouser at political events and whatnot. He's actually had run ins with authorities but because of this. But something's up here. I think it's just, it's just, it just.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, like I said, it just seems unlikely that you would thoughts immediately like that. And I guarantee it helped scumbag get away. Now obviously he didn't get away get away, but get away in the moment. If everybody's attention was on that guy, that's very, very weird and certainly is going to fuel conspiracy theories forever.

[Katie Green]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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