Why Do You Keep Your Urine In Bottles, Jeb!?

Summary

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Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "Why Do You Keep Your Urine In Bottles, Jeb!?"

iHeartPodcasts | February 5, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode revolves around an eclectic mix of current events, media criticism, and trademark Armstrong & Getty irreverence. The hosts dissect national news stories, from the alleged kidnapping of Annie Guthrie’s mother to Bill Gates’ association with Jeffrey Epstein, examine self-driving car technology, and riff on quirky news (ancient booze, medical studies involving recreational drugs, and explosive discoveries—literally). The episode’s title, referencing urine bottles, is a tongue-in-cheek nod to the hosts’ banter about peculiar historical finds.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Annie Guthrie Kidnapping Case Coverage

(03:05 – 13:16)

• Media Handling & Sensationalism:

  • The hosts critique the coverage of the alleged kidnapping of Annie Guthrie's mother, highlighting how news outlets (notably Ashley Banfield) irresponsibly speculate on case details and "prime suspects."

  • They stress the harm caused by premature or baseless accusations, especially against family members, and how “clickbaity” podcasts are rewarded for sensationalism, not accuracy.

    • Quote:
      “So you’re tamping down a rumor that you’re starting. Correct.”
      – Host [07:56]

    • Quote:
      “The world o' clickbaity podcasts has realized there’s no premium for telling the truth... A lot of the top podcasts in the world lie constantly.”
      – Host [08:45]

• Ransom, Investigation, and Law Enforcement:

  • Discussion of law enforcement’s press conference strategy and media expectations for daily updates.

  • Hosts reflect on the practicalities of ransom communications and kidnapping scenarios, casting doubt on the effectiveness and frequency of successful ransom exchanges.

    • Quote:
      “How often is a kidnapping successful anyway? ...The percentage has got to be incredibly low.”
      – Host [12:44]

2. Media Criticism & The Effects of Sensationalism

(09:11 – 10:53)

• They discuss how sensational stories headline news regardless of truth and the impact this has on real people’s lives.

• The decision by networks (e.g., News Nation) to air speculative content is sharply criticized.

  • Quote:
    “You can’t be claiming family members did it unless you got some real solid information...”
    – Host [10:10]

3. 150-Year-Old Booze & Jeb's Urine Bottles

(17:39 – 19:14)

• Lighthearted segment riffing on the discovery and potential tasting of a 150-year-old beer/wine.

• The conversation veers into old-timey preservation anxieties ("Why do you keep all your urine in bottles, Jim? I just feel like I should keep my urine for posterity.” [19:04]), referencing the episode title.

  • Quote:
    “I’m getting notes of Reconstruction with a little bit of a... getting a little McKinley in there.”
    – Host [18:20]

4. Psychedelic Medical Studies: Side Hustle?

(19:14 – 22:38)

• Discussion of Northwell Health’s program paying participants to experience drugs (psilocybin, MDMA, cannabis) in home-like settings for scientific research.

• The hosts poke fun at the setup, comparing it to college dorm life and questioning the scientific necessity.

  • Quote:
    “Do you really need to do this? Can’t you just ask a whole bunch of people who’ve lived that lifestyle?”
    – Host [20:52]

5. Bill Gates, Epstein, and Party Culture

(25:47 – 31:56)

• Coverage of Bill Gates’ public apology regarding his association with Jeffrey Epstein, the subsequent fallout, and skepticism about the parties involved.

• Examination of how the wealthy socialize, the boundaries of legality vs. morality, and critiques of both conspiracy theories and mainstream narratives.

  • Quote:
    “I don’t believe there’s a giant global child sex trafficking, rape dismemberment ring at all. So that’s off the table.”
    – Host [28:21]

  • Quote:
    “If Elon Musk said, ‘Hey, you having any of your big parties?’ I’ll bet Jeffrey Epstein had unbelievable blowout parties…in which there were no 17 year olds at all.”
    – Host [29:21]

6. Self-Driving Cars: Hype vs. Reality

(33:04 – 38:46)

• Recap and commentary on a CBS segment about the progress and dangers of autonomous vehicles (particularly Waymo and Tesla).

• Criticism of media overplaying minor errors by self-driving cars, the impracticality of “zero mistakes” standards, and the hypocrisy considering human drivers' behavior.

  • Quote:
    “There was a lot about that, I thought it was interesting…But everybody sounded like they were trying to get to zero mistakes. Are you certified to be completely mistake-free? …None of us are, as safe as these self-driving cars are.”
    – Host [34:27]

  • Quote:
    “If Waymo does it or Tesla does it, it makes the news. And they act like proof that you can’t have self-driving cars…Everybody’s done that.”
    – Host [38:07]

7. Philosophy Corner: Bertrand Russell and Socialism

(42:39 – 46:26)

• The hosts present philosopher Bertrand Russell’s critique of Marxism and socialism, arguing most leftist movements are motivated by resentment rather than altruism.

• Quotations from Russell and their own analysis underscore that socialist movements are often about punishing the successful, not uplifting the downtrodden.

  • Quote:
    “Marx and people who believe in it pretend that they want the happiness of the proletariat. What they really want is the unhappiness of the bourgeois.”
    – Quoting Bertrand Russell [43:58]

  • Quote:
    “Socialism sucks. It’s always miserable, it always fails, and it always ends up in tyranny. And yet many young people are attracted to it. Could it be because neuroscientists have revealed Gen Z-ers are the first generation since records began to be kept to be less intelligent than their parents?”
    – Host [46:02]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|-------| | 07:56 | Host | “So you’re tamping down a rumor that you’re starting. Correct.” | | 08:45 | Host | “The world o' clickbaity podcasts has realized there’s no premium for telling the truth... A lot of the top podcasts in the world lie constantly.” | | 10:10 | Host | “You can’t be claiming family members did it unless you got some real solid information...” | | 12:44 | Host | “How often is a kidnapping successful anyway? ...The percentage has got to be incredibly low.” | | 18:20 | Host | “I’m getting notes of Reconstruction with a little bit of a... getting a little McKinley in there.” | | 19:04 | Host | “Why do you keep all your urine in bottles, Jim? I just feel like I should keep my urine for posterity. I’m gonna need it.” | | 20:52 | Host | “Do you really need to do this? Can’t you just ask a whole bunch of people who’ve lived that lifestyle?” | | 28:21 | Host | “I don’t believe there’s a giant global child sex trafficking, rape dismemberment ring at all. So that’s off the table.” | | 29:21 | Host | “If Elon Musk said, ‘Hey, you having any of your big parties?’ I’ll bet Jeffrey Epstein had unbelievable blowout parties…in which there were no 17 year olds at all.” | | 34:27 | Host | “Are you certified to be completely mistake-free? …None of us are, as safe as these self-driving cars are.” | | 38:07 | Host | “If Waymo does it or Tesla does it, it makes the news. And they act like proof that you can’t have self-driving cars…Everybody’s done that.” | | 43:58 | Quoting Bertrand Russell | “Marx and people who believe in it pretend that they want the happiness of the proletariat. What they really want is the unhappiness of the bourgeois.” | | 46:02 | Host | “Socialism sucks. It’s always miserable, it always fails, and it always ends up in tyranny...” |

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Segment Timestamps

• 03:05 – Annie Guthrie’s Family, Media Response & Kidnapping Investigation
• 09:11 – The Dangers of Sensational Podcast News & Media Critique
• 17:39 – Old Booze Taste-test & “Urine Bottles” Bit
• 19:14 – Medical Studies: Psychedelics & Couch Potato Science
• 25:47 – Bill Gates, Epstein, and The Power of Rumors
• 33:04 – Self-Driving Cars: Technology, Safety, and Political Posturing
• 42:39 – Bertrand Russell, Socialism, and Motivations of The Left

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Tone & Style

The hosts maintain a sardonic, skeptical, and often self-deprecating tone throughout, blending sharp political and social commentary with humor and pop culture references. They frequently interrupt each other for comedic effect, riffing on news headlines with personal anecdotes, asides, and cultural observations.

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For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

This episode is quintessential Armstrong & Getty: irreverent, sharply critical of media, packed with social commentary, and peppered with digressions that might be as memorable as the main topics. If you’re interested in current event analysis, skeptical media takes, and the occasional philosophical hot take—all seasoned with banter—this episode is for you.

Transcript

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[A]

We miss you. That's Annie Guthrie, Savannah Guthrie's sister, From a video the family put out yesterday. About four minutes long. Not exactly sure what all the goals were in there, but part of the goal was to reach out to potential kidnapper kidnappers and, you know, start a conversation. The leading theory seems to be that they're not in conversations with the kidnapper, despite the reporting of a ransom note existing. Because that only went to news outlets and not to the family.

[F]

Well, and it's not clear that it was the same note that went to both outlets. The local TV station seems more legit.

[A]

There might be a hundred different. Probably are at this point.

[F]

Hoaxes, etc. Yeah.

[A]

John Miller is one of the few reasons to ever tune into cnn. Former FBI. He was on, like, what, was he on Law and order or. He was a TV star for a while way back in the day.

[F]

Was he?

[A]

Yeah, and then he went back to cable news. Pretty sure he was. Anyway, here's John Miller on the story. You start off with proof of life. Can you show me a picture? Can you put the victim on the phone? Can you send us a recording? If not, that you can drill down to. I'm gonna send you three questions. These are questions that only the victim would know. And, you know, you try to test that kidnapper who's in the middle of a money demand and say, how can you prove two things to. One, that you're real, that you are the person who has or had her, and two, that she's still alive. And those are important tests. Yeah, that's all with the assumption that it's somebody that had a thought out plan to make money or what. You know, you hope that that's the case. At least then you got a shot. As opposed to if it's just some weirdo, crazy person that thinks Savannah Guthrie was, you know, specifically talking to him through the TV or who knows what.

[F]

Oh, lord. Yeah. Well, even the first scenario, I think by far the most likely thing Is that some half wit who decides he's a criminal genius who realizes almost immediately he's bitten off way more than he can chew. Especially given poor Mrs. Guthrie's health status. So he's got a very sick elderly.

[A]

Woman who could have died on his hands. And then he's like, what do I do now? Yeah, right.

[F]

Yeah. That's not unlikely.

[A]

No, it's not. The sheriff's department did not have a press conference yesterday, which I think is perfectly fine because they didn't have anything to say. But being criticized a lot, of course, by your cable news show, armchair quarterbacks who have to fill the hour with no new information on the story with something. It's completely unheard of to not have a press conference. I don't know what kind of amateur hour we're dealing with here. You know, that sort of stuff. But they're having a press conference today, which to me is fine. But. Although I did hear the sheriff asked. What did I hear him asked that I was somewhat troubled by. I mean, it's not his fault.

[F]

He.

[A]

How would all you do who've never been, you know, had a microphone stuck in your face with five TV cameras around you when you start getting grilled on stuff. I mean, that's. It's a tough position to be in if you've never done it before. But he was asked about if you. If you think she's still alive. And he said, yeah, I think so. Are you basing that on anything? And then. And then the reporter asked, and I thought this was an awful question, but there is the possibility she's dead. And he said, oh, yeah, of course. Thought. What. What is. What is that? What is that conversation?

[F]

Idiotic. I think that's.

[A]

Who's that for?

[F]

Oh, yeah, What. What a stupid question. Turn in your reporter card. Such a thing exists. Probably not. Don't report on anything ever again. Go home, get a new job.

[A]

Ashley Banfield, who used to be a big deal way back in the day, for some reason I don't remember what she was. She was reporting with a headscarf on in Iraq at the beginning of the war or something. Anyway, it doesn't matter. She's a hack.

[F]

She was at the very tail end when CNN was at all respectable.

[A]

She is a hack. And here's her speculating over the last couple of days.

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One law enforcement source, very connected, highly regarded, impeccable credentials. Knowledge of this investigation says that Tomaso Sione, Annie P. Guthrie's husband, may be the prime suspect in this case. And Annie's vehicle has been towed, impounded, and is now in evidence. At the very least, let me tamp that down, because sometimes it's the first person you're looking at. Not prime as in there's no one else. Okay. So let's be really mindful of that. Families are always looked at first as well.

[A]

Okay, so you're tamping down a rumor that you're starting. Correct. So that crying woman you just heard from at the beginning of this segment, Annie, whose mom is missing and I'm sure they're worried, is already dead. Her husband killed mom. According to Ashley Banfield, that's the prime suspect. Nobody else is reporting that at all. So only Ashley. And as Joe pointed out earlier, we're supposed to believe that somebody at a level where they would have the knowledge of who the prime suspect is decided to leak it and chose Ashley Banfield as the way to get it out. But nobody else. I'm not talking telling the New York Times or NBC News or any of the many heavyweight. Nope. Gonna go with Ashley Banfield and her podcast for who the prime suspect is.

[F]

Even though the very knowledgeable Ms. Banfield pointed out that no, that might just be the first person they're looking at. I think the whole thing is hogwashed. The the world o clickbaity podcasts has realized there's no premium for telling the truth. There's no particular. The other way to put it is there's no particular penalty for lying constantly. A lot of the top podcasts in the world lie constantly.

[A]

You know what? And I can understand. I hate it. I wouldn't do it. We don't do it. But I can see how if I'm just a regular person and I got a couple of different news outlets covering this story that I find jazzy enough to get my attention every single day. And one of them says they know who a prime suspect is. That's what I'm gonna listen to. Yep. Even though it's crap. And how about that poor guy, most likely as upset as his wife, really worried about his wife and how upset she is, and some hack on a podcast is claiming he's the prime suspect. How's that fun thing to deal with. I'm sure that's gotten back to the family.

[F]

Yeah, maybe. Although her crappy podcast. She's part of the News Nation team. I guess they played podcast does a podcast under their.

[A]

I wasn't digging under rocks for Ashley Banfield's podcast. They played that on News Nation for their morning news show today.

[F]

Wow. Wow.

[A]

I think that's really out of bounds, man.

[F]

You can't be.

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You can't be claiming family members did it unless you got some real solid information that that's what the cops said.

[F]

A High bias source only told me.

[A]

This only told me hack Ashley Banfield. Correct. Not John Miller at cnn. Hack who's got all kinds of non hack hack network, FBI connections and all kinds of people at the very highest levels. Don't tell him. Tell Ashley Banfield. Right. That's out of, that's out of line. I couldn't do that. So what, what's your, what's your working theory?

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So we're on in various stations in Arizona and all over the country. And you know, I don't say this hoping the fam. I hope the family doesn't hear it or anything like that. This is just me treating this like a TV show, not like real human beings, I guess. But I think the most likely thing is they find the poor old woman dead somewhere.

[F]

Think everybody's yeah. Agreed on that.

[A]

They find her, you know, out in the bushes in the desert. He killed her or she died on her own and he dumped her there. And then eventually they'll find the scumbag maybe with a bullet in his head.

[F]

Who knows. Yeah. The history of these crimes is full of would be criminal geniuses who are actually half wits and they botch everything and it just, it's, it's awful.

[A]

How often is a kidnapping successful anyway? How often do you actually. Are you Actually able to, on both sides, get what you want. You want your loved one back. The other person wants the money and to get away. I wonder how often that actually happens. Because the old. The trade off, you know, as a classic. How the hell do you do it? You walk across a bridge with a briefcase and the person with their hands tied or whatever you do. But it always requires some trust on both sides and. Right. How often does it ever actually work? It's got. The percentage has got to be incredibly low.

[F]

Yeah, I would guess it's. It's very, very small. Yeah. The world of cryptocurrency has made the money exchange much safer for the. The monster. I mean, ransomware attacks are essentially, you know, kidnapping a computer system. And it's pretty easy to get paid these days. We've seen a ton of those, obviously.

[A]

But you'd still have to have some trust involved there. Because I'm not 100%.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm not, you know, I'm not sending you the money until I know you got her or you're gonna give her back to me. And he's saying, well, I'm not sending you the money. I mean, I'm not.

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First one. Can't figure out the second one. You can't. Right. You've just got to hope they come through and their lives would be easier if they drop off the victim as opposed to, you know, adding murder to their many charges. It's grim. It's a horrible crime.

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Yeah. But the likelihood of success so low, it's amazing that it happens very often.

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Back to my half wit screen.

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That is the problem. It's an. It's a moron. Some moron from Arizona who heard that Savannah Guthrie's mom lives in that neighborhood over there. I know what I'll do, says the moron.

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We have found a 150-year-old bottle of alcohol. So 1870s, 1890s, this is the era we're dealing with. It's in reasonably good shape, I would say, after sitting for 150 years, you know, very, very slight. Vinegar. When we were smelling the cork. Give her a shot. Doesn't smell bad. Kind of an oxidized fruit note. It's fruity and it's beer.

[C]

There's a little bit of leather.

[A]

You have to try it really low.

[F]

Abv.

[A]

Yeah, beer. Because it's kind of.

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There's like a yeasty element in the background.

[A]

Katie, you're making funny faces to the people tasting the 150-year-old bottle of wine.

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I'm guessing alcohol. They just don't know what it is. That's the whole point. I think it's beer at the end.

[A]

You never want something with a yeasty element. I'm getting. I'm getting notes of reconstruction with a little bit of a. Getting a little McKinley in there. Getting a sort of just an aftertaste of Custer's last stand. Hmm.

[F]

Wow.

[A]

150 years old.

[F]

You see, I'm not sure I would ingest that.

[A]

I don't think I would either. Now, I. Even if it was tasted by, like, somebody to make sure it wasn't poison, at this point, I'm like, I was.

[F]

Just gonna say, hey, Michael, get ready with the harp noise. 150 years ago today. Hey, Ma, I'm gonna store this rat poison bottle, so don't be drinking anything from it.

[A]

Why do you keep all your urine in bottles, Jim? I just feel like I should keep my urine for posterity. I'm gonna need it.

[F]

Don't question me, woman. Now, in the modern day, I'm detecting yeasty notes. Wow. Wow. Nice old Jeb and his urine saving proclivities. Oh, boy. Speaking of drinking, looking for a side hustle? Why don't you give a call to the new Northwell Health Medical Facility in Long Island, New York, where patients are being given the green light to get, quote, frat house high on magic mushrooms, MDMA, and cannabis while watching sports and chowing down on chips, all in the name of medical science.

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Oh, I don't know what mdma. There's another Thing my kid could be doing. I don't even know. I've never even heard of it.

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Molly. Molly. Ecstasy. Ish, says the director of the Manhasset based Feinstein Family Human neuropsychopharmacology lab. It's easy for you to say. We're studying full doses that produce anywhere from a four to six hour trip. They're trying to assess different substances, ability to treat things like schizophrenia. Schizophrenia and social anxiety.

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Many of those treat social anxiety. I can. I can attest to this.

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The venture focuses on that at least briefly. Yeah. It focuses on naturalistic environments that embody either the comfort of one's living room where patients can get stoned or a live bar setting for getting drunk. Completely complete with high def TVs showing sports highlights, snacks and refills on demand.

[A]

Do you really need to do this? Can't you just ask a whole bunch of people who've lived that lifestyle a lot? Questions.

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I'm trying to explain the science to you. Okay. All right. They have to answer questions. They'll have to report on their mood state. There's downtime when they can enjoy them.

[A]

Happy, amorous, hungry, you got a boyfriend?

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[A]

In like a biggie comfortable chair in front of a television.

[F]

Then they observe you through one way glass in a series of cameras. Then at some point they like start quizzing you and make you memorize like a sequence of numbers. Or there's a test driving simulator. That'd be fun. But making me do like memory acrobatics when I'm like super high. Oh. So after people add some drinks, we asked them to remember a string of numbers. Do addition or make choices out of a series of choices are available to them.

[A]

Choices like choices like her or her?

[F]

Yeah, no, no. It's probably much more anodyne than that, but wow. It looks pretty nice. Got a big old big screen watching TV there.

[A]

So CBS did a report on self driving cars last night. I thought it was kind of interesting. Want to touch on that? Also, I don't know if you know philosopher Bertrand Russell. He was born back when they made that booze, late 1800s. Anyway, his description of socialism I came across over the weekend thought was one of the best I've ever heard. I'm going to use it for the rest of my life to describe it.

[F]

I love that.

[A]

Among other things we got on the way and plus a new featurette in.

[F]

Our four of the show. Yes we do. Four hours. Good Lord. Be sure these untied states. It's an ammogram for these United States.

[A]

Okay.

[F]

Some of the wackier crap going around going on around the country.

[A]

Oh cool. I like that. Laboratories of Democracy Fantastic.

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Microsoft founder Bill Gates apologizing for his association with sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, saying he regrets every minute they spent together. I was foolish to spend time with him. I was one of many people who regret ever knowing him. Gates said he never witnessed or took part in any inappropriate behavior. He insists his relationship with Epstein was focused on raising money for Global Health. Now his ex wife, we played that clip yesterday. She was on a podcast earlier in the week saying that's the reason they divorced. That's the reason she left her husband. She obviously believed he was doing something creepy, right? Yeah.

[F]

At the very least hanging out in places where people hooked up and had sex. The number of folks who persisted in being in contact with Epstein from all walks of life is really interesting, including several like of the highest members or officials in the Labour Party in Britain. And it was all about monetary connections, all about money flowing back and forth and insider trading tips and doing favors and that sort of thing.

[A]

Have you seen the one? Elon, the email from Elon. Hey, you got any wild parties coming up? I need to. Yeah, I think he said something like I need to let loose or something like that. I've been working so much or something like that and that's like it. I mean, is that enough to assume that he means I want to go to the island and have sex with 17 year old girls?

[F]

No, no, I can't help them.

[A]

By the way, the interesting part of that email was sent on Christmas morning, December 25th. Whatever.

[F]

Christmas.

[A]

Yeah. Who gets up on the 25th thinks man, I need to go to Jeff Epstein's island. All that rapping and eggnog. Hey, I need a break.

[F]

So A I don't care and B I give up. But there, there seems to be this assumption among people that every single day everything he did included a nude 17 year old Epstein. Well, the only reason it's not true.

[A]

The only reason I bring this up is I've had two this week people I know and like who gently prodded me that they're a little disappointed in how flippant we are about this story compared to everybody else, Republicans and Democrats. Really?

[F]

What version of it are we talking about? Well, that, that's what I always have to ask.

[A]

Yeah, I know. That's, that's the problem I have.

[F]

So.

[A]

One, I don't believe there's a giant global child sex trafficking, rape dismemberment ring at all. So that's off the table. That includes the Bushes, the Obamas, Israel and everything like that. That's off the table. It's, it's known that Jeffrey Epstein, you know, forced women that were, you know, teenagers under 18 into situations where they were alone with men and had to have sex with them and all that sort of stuff. We, we know that happened, which is awful. That's why he was in jail and.

[F]

Ended up hanging himself, as is Ms. Maxwell.

[A]

Yes, but if he, if he also had women who were, and I assume this is true, willingly there knowing exactly what they were getting into. They were over the age of 18, hanging out with super rich dudes who are. They are willing to do things with because it makes for a cool lifestyle. Am I supposed to be super upset about that? I don't like that. I don't dig that. But it's not against the law, Right?

[F]

Exactly. And that's what I was hinting at. Ask any NBA player about parties where women are more than willing to be sexually available, including young women, not underage women, but very young women. It's just, it's not crazy in the circles of the super rich. So if Elon Musk said, hey, you having any of your big parties? I'll bet Jeffrey Epstein had unbelievable blowout parties with booze and food and hot looking models and all sorts of stuff in which There were no 17 year olds at all.

[A]

Actually, Elon said something to that effect the other day on a podcast. He said, trust me, if I need to find companionship, it's not hard given my name and recognition and everything like that. I'm sure. True. He's the richest man in the world. Also a pretty decent looking guy and the richest man in the world. I don't think he probably needs, I think he specifically said, I don't need Jeffrey Epstein to facilitate me getting companionship. I'm not, I'm sure that's true. Right, right. Although. Facilitate getting underage companionship. You might need somebody if that's what he wanted, but I don't have. But there's no proof of that whatsoever.

[F]

And you know what nobody has talked about because as soon as it's found out that whomever. And there's a kind of a long list grown right now who claimed, oh yeah, I dropped any contact with him immediately after the conviction or whatever. We haven't been in contact then it turns out you've been sending emails for years, right? Yeah, all sorts of folks like that. They continued the contacts, the relationship, etc. I want a handful of them to explain it honestly, which I'm not going to get.

[A]

But say Howard Lutnick's one of them. He's. He's the one we played the clip back in the day of, you know, I went over there and he had a massage table in the middle of his house and we left right away. And I told my wife after we left the house, as soon as we got out on the sidewalk, I said, we are never talking to that guy again. And then there are emails of him communicating with Epstein after.

[F]

I want to hear them explain it. The guy was so incredibly well connected, you just could hardly avoid it in the New York financial circles. Or I don't know, he's just so charming. Or he told me he thought the girl was 18 that he got convicted for. Or I just want them to explain it. What is the poll this guy had? And no, it's not that he works for the idf, by the way. Stop it.

[A]

One other thing on Epstein before we move on. Bill and Hillary Clinton, apparently while they agreed to testify, I don't know what specifically they're going to be asked about, but they're really pushing to make it public. So currently it's going to be filmed behind closed doors and then I guess we get to see it and there will be a transcription. But they want it to be public. I think it's pretty interesting that they're pushing for it to be public.

[F]

Oh, 100%. Yeah. Because they don't want what they say characterized by James Comer. They want the exact quotes there.

[A]

And they.

[F]

They go in knowing they're not going to get us for anything. We got either A, we got nothing that they can use or B, there's nothing they can use that are going to come out of our mouths.

[A]

I also think they both are pretty confident in their ability to handle themselves in that situation verbally.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

And they'd love to have that live. Yeah. Let's get it on now. I don't know how sharp Bill still is. He's pretty dang old.

[F]

Yes.

[A]

What order do I want to do this in? Maybe I'll just Skip to this.

[F]

Do I do that alphabetical?

[A]

So here's a story they had on CBS News like last night that I wanted to comment on about the rapidly approaching future of self driving cars.

[F]

You've seen the viral videos self driving cars not following the rules of the road. Tuesday, Senator Ed Markey sent letters to seven autonomous vehicle companies demanding answers about safety and oversight. The Massachusetts Democrat is pushing two measures. One requiring more transparency and another requiring companies to certify their vehicles as safe. Tesla and Waymo have aggressive expansion plans but warn every year China becomes a bigger and bigger competitor. Waymo says its self driving vehicles are 10 times less likely to be involved in a serious injury accident than a human driver.

[A]

There was a lot about that. I thought it was interesting. And they touched mostly on Waymo and Tesla in their battle to be the dominant self driving car out there. And they talked about how there are currently lots of state laws. They're 50 different states with different laws. And Ted Cruz was saying we need to have a uniform for, because cars, you know, cross state boundaries all the time. So we need to have some sort of uniform national something or other. But everybody sounded like they were trying to get to zero mistakes. Are you certified to be completely mistake free? I'm not, I was just going to.

[F]

Say what does that mean? They need to certify it as safe. That sounds like grandstandy Congress bull crap to me.

[A]

Outside of a very easy to clear low bar to get a driver's license, none of us are certified as, as safe as these self driving cars are. So it's interesting, it's interesting. I don't want self driving cars happen because I think they're going to force us into them. That's what I'm worried about. I think it's inevitable but I just wish it wouldn't happen. And it's going to be very hard to argue, argue against it because it is going to be safer. One thing about the whole safe thing though on the stats of 10 times safer, are you, is it 10 times safer than those of us who've never had a major crash or all the people that have never had a crash or is it 10 times safer than you know, the worst drivers out there now?

[F]

The entire universe of drivers.

[A]

Well I know that's what it is but.

[F]

I would love to hear that comparison though. That's, that's a really interesting.

[A]

If you, if you took, if you took out the, the most crash prone bottom 10% of human drivers then I wonder what the difference would be. It wouldn't be 10 times.

[F]

For the record, stop expressing fractions as multiples. I hate that. Yeah, yeah, that's, that's a really good question. I was just thinking about what an incredible boon to the elderly self driving cars will be. And a drunk and drunks, the old and the drunk.

[A]

Yes.

[F]

And as an old drunk, trust me, I'm enthusiastic about this.

[A]

Yeah. I just, it sounded to me like the senator they were talking to has like a zero tolerance policy for any mistakes for self driving cars. When we've got, you know, people staring at their phones at 85 miles an hour, weaving in out of traffic all over the country.

[F]

You know what AI needs to do? This is brilliant. This is my billion dollar idea. AI needs to develop a three question test that it can immediately spit out on any topic. So if a congressman starts talking about self driving cars, they get that quick three question test to determine whether they have any freaking idea what they're talking about. And if they fail the test, they're not allowed to talk or you know, use it at cocktail parties or whatever, but you know, or people answering poll questions. You think Trump's tariffs have been a good thing or bad thing? Before you answer, I got three questions.

[A]

They featured the story. We had this the other day in California, a Waymo hit a six year old boy. Well, the six year old boy darted out behind a parked car. Nobody could have stopped. Waymo made the argument that the reaction time of the computer was significantly faster than any human could have reacted.

[F]

It was a fraction. Right.

[A]

And, but it's presented as like show. Has anybody ever in their lives turned the wrong way down a one way street? Of course you have.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

If Waymo does it or Tesla does it, it makes the news. And they act like proof that you can't have self driving cars. There isn't anybody that hasn't ever done that in their life. Right, right.

[F]

Yeah, I agree completely with your premise. I think it's worth dwelling at least for a second on the nature of journalism and speech perception that that wayo incident in which, and we talked about this at fair length, but the car reacted in a superhuman tiny span of time, ended up bumping the kid at a speed that would hardly break an egg. And the kid was fine. Put a human driver behind that wheel. The headline ought to be Waymo saves child's life in situation where a human driver would have killed the child.

[A]

You're right.

[F]

Long headline. See my point?

[A]

If the human hit the brakes at all. Might have been checking your. What's the next song on my phone. Oh, Boy, kids dead. Yeah. To present it. Yeah, exactly. They had videos last night. We've all seen the videos. Here's a Waymo going the wrong way down a one way street. And I thought, yeah, I've done that. Everybody's done that. So. But this makes the evening news. Yeah, I know that's probably. I, I just wonder how. I just wonder if we have the structure to. To allow that to happen. The self driving car. I don't know. I don't know. I use mine every single day. It's, it's. I never thought I wanted it or needed it and now that I have it, I use it every day.

[F]

Yeah, I'm kind of jealous of that, honestly. So quick on air meeting. I've got too many tabs open. Is it likely we're going to get back to the French guy who was in the hospital with a World War I artillery shell in his rectum? No, because if not, I will go ahead and close that tab. 24 year old Frenchman.

[A]

And it didn't explode on him.

[F]

No sir. But they had to close the hospital because he had. Well, I think I mentioned an unexploded 8 inch long World War I artillery show.

[A]

I don't remember having the length.

[F]

I think I may have left that out, the initial story and I apologize for it.

[A]

Like I wouldn't have forgotten that.

[F]

Well, in the picture of it. Well, I'm not sure this.

[A]

Do we know if it was British, German or French?

[F]

It doesn't say. Probably German as the Germans used the French quite effectively there for a while.

[A]

I hear what you're suggesting. All right, I do want to get to that definition of socialism and a bunch of other stuff we got coming up.

[F]

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So I came across this explanation of socialism. It was an old YouTube video from Black and White from way back in the day from this guy Bertrand Russell, who I've heard of but didn't know that much about. He's a very famous philosopher, one of the most important philosophers of the 20th century, born in 1872. So I mean, that's how far it goes back. He lived almost a hundred years. So there were, you know, YouTube videos of him in the 50s, 60s and 70s. Obviously kind of a wacky guy. He was a pacifist. I'm always amazed by how many super smart people are pacifists because it seems like the odd ideology, but nitwit to me, but because it doesn't make any sense and other things. But anyway, he, he went. He thought communism seemed like a good idea and so he went over to the Soviet Union. He was very old, remember, so back in the day, he went over and he met Lenin and, and talked to him, everything like that. And he was in the Soviet Union and he saw it in practice and thought, this is awful, and figured out what it is. And Marx himself, he said, was not inspired by kindly feeling. That's the way it's always presented, Marxism. It's to help the lower classes. Marx and people who believe in it pretend that they want the happiness of the proletariat. What they really want is the unhappiness of the bourgeois. And that is the best explanation I've ever heard of what's going on there. They present it as Mumdani's like that. They present it as like, oh, I want to help the downtrodden. Know. What I want to do is I want to stick it to the people who've got something that they're. They're driven by their anger toward the people who have been successful and have stuff right more than they are, by helping the lower classes, which helps explains a lot of the policies that you think, well, how is that going to help the lower class? It's not. They just want to stick it to.

[F]

The rich, including the interesting and twisted children of wealth, who turn to these philosophies and advocate, sometimes violently for them. As Matt Taibbi brilliantly phrased it, the upper class twits promoting revolution, period.

[A]

Bertrand Russell met Lenin and was disturbed. What he saw as the Bolsheviks willingness to use cruelty and deception to maintain power. He wrote a famous book called the Practice and Theory of Bolshevism, that it always will lead to authoritarian rule, blah, blah, blah. And he said, he criticized Marx's theory of the state withering away, you'll no longer have a state and we'll all be free is unrealistic. Arguing that concentrating power in the hands of a revolutionary vanguard will lead to tyranny rather than liberation, obviously. Ding. Who's going to enforce this? Somebody?

[F]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, and with the state in control of everything, the state's control apparatus has got to be super muscular.

[A]

I don't know. Obviously that really hit me as like made sense though, because I've never quite understood how you're so motivated. To you it's because your anger at the successful. That's what motivates you.

[F]

Where does that come from?

[A]

That I don't get, but it's clearly the case.

[F]

Where does it come from in general? And where does it come from in the rich kids?

[A]

That's why tax the billionaires or all those sorts of things work so well. Even if it doesn't help you a bit. It's just at least they got theirs. I hate those people who are successful.

[B]

We will replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the warmth of collectivism.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

Yes, that'll work this time. Socialism sucks. It's always miserable, it always fails, and it always ends up in tyranny. And yet many young people are attracted to it. Could it be because neuroscientists have revealed gen zers are the first generation since records began to be kept to be less intelligent than their parents? Have to get into this in hour four.

[A]

How is that possible with modern nutrition and everything?

[F]

Oh my friend, I'll explain it to you exactly. Plus Oregon get our four we're going to touch on some Portland and Oregon news that's pretty important. Subscribe to our Podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand. Follow Us. Give us a nice five star review.

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