Wipe Our Hineys

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand – Episode: "Wipe Our Hineys"
Release Date: June 5, 2025
Host: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Platform: iHeartPodcasts

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1. Smuggling of a Deadly Pathogen

Timestamp: [00:27] – [01:23]

The episode opens with a discussion about a security breach involving a Chinese scientist who attempted to smuggle a poisonous fungus into the United States. The scientist and his girlfriend were apprehended after text messages revealed their plan to introduce the deadly pathogen into a laboratory at the University of Michigan.

Notable Quote:
Joe Getty: "That was the man and his girlfriend who claimed he didn't know anything about the fungus. And then she said, 'I didn't ask him to bring it in.' And then they found the text messages, which made it clear that they knew they were doing something they shouldn't do, and they were working together. That's why they have been arrested."
[00:27 – 01:23]

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2. Supreme Court Ruling on Workplace Discrimination

Timestamp: [01:45] – [26:59]

A significant portion of the episode delves into a landmark Supreme Court decision that unanimously blocked a lawsuit by the Mexican government aiming to hold U.S. firearms manufacturers accountable for gun violence in Mexico. The hosts express skepticism about the lawsuit's validity, noting it seemed "stupid" and unnecessary for the Supreme Court's intervention.

Further, they discuss another critical ruling where the Supreme Court sided with a straight woman in a job discrimination case. The Court rejected the previous requirement that members of majority groups (e.g., white males) must meet a "heightened standard" to prove discrimination. This decision emphasizes that "discrimination is discrimination," regardless of the victim's demographic.

Notable Quotes:
Jack Armstrong: "This is another loud and unequivocal statement that racial discrimination, bigotry, whatever is bigotry."
[02:42 – 03:02]

Joe Getty: "I think it's a simple principle... you can't fix discrimination with discrimination."
[03:02 – 03:28]

Jack Armstrong: "The standards for proving workplace discrimination under federal civil rights law... does not vary based on whether or not the plaintiff is a member of a majority group."
[24:12 – 25:05]

The hosts commend Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson for her stance, highlighting the unanimous nature of the decision and its alignment with classical liberal principles against all forms of discrimination.

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3. Controversial Allegations: Cory Booker vs. Elon Musk

Timestamp: [03:02] – [05:15]

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty engage in a heated debate over recent events where both Senator Cory Booker and Elon Musk were seen performing a gesture interpreted by Armstrong as a "Nazi salute." They critique the media's inconsistent coverage, noting that major outlets reported Musk's gesture extensively while largely ignoring Booker's.

Notable Quotes:
Jack Armstrong: "Cory Booker, who is a Democratic senator... every single one of them wrote stories on Elon Musk's Nazi salute."
[04:10 – 04:41]

Joe Getty: "If you don't think it was a Nazi salute, you are blind."
[04:41 – 05:00]

The conversation underscores perceived biases in media reporting and calls out the double standards in handling similar actions by different political figures.

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4. The Genetics of Sleep and Potential Implications

Timestamp: [05:06] – [09:27]

The hosts transition to a scientific discussion about recent discoveries in the genetics of sleep. They explore how certain genetic mutations allow individuals to function optimally with significantly less sleep than the typical eight-hour requirement. Jack Armstrong elaborates on the potential benefits of such mutations, including increased productivity and more leisure time.

Notable Quotes:
Jack Armstrong: "Sleeping gives the body a chance to detox and clear out the junk from your brain... a lot of that stuff happens while you're asleep anyway."
[05:46 – 06:59]

Joe Getty: "If you could genetically edit the embryo for your child, would you not choose?"
[07:29 – 07:43]

They also touch upon the ethical considerations of genetic editing, weighing the advantages against potential unforeseen consequences.

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5. Film and Entertainment Discussions

Timestamp: [09:27] – [12:00]

Armstrong and Getty discuss upcoming films, particularly a new "Frankenstein" movie directed by Guillermo del Toro. They speculate on the movie's potential style, contrasting it with traditional adaptations and considering how modern CGI might influence its reception. The conversation also shifts to the theater experience, debating the value of watching certain films on the big screen versus at home.

Notable Quotes:
Jack Armstrong: "If you were to do something completely non-stylized, do a retelling of the Frankenstein story, almost like a documentary, I think that would be incredibly compelling and chilling."
[09:34 – 10:23]

Joe Getty: "If you want to see the Uncrustables, you want to see it in the theater, on the big screen. There's just something more impactful about it."
[11:47 – 11:54]

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6. Mock 'Man on the Street' from the 1500s

Timestamp: [19:03] – [21:33]

In a humorous segment, the hosts present a fabricated "Man on the Street" interview set in the 1500s. The interactions parody modern interview questions, highlighting the absurdity and anachronisms of applying contemporary queries to historical contexts.

Notable Quotes:
Unnamed Speaker (as a 1500s citizen): "What's life like for you right now?"
Joe Getty: "Woke up, stepped in dung, got taxed."
[20:22 – 20:28]

Unnamed Speaker: "The biggest challenge for a noble woman these days? Three hours to get dressed and still no pockets."
[21:10 – 21:16]

The segment serves as comedic relief while subtly critiquing societal norms across different eras.

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7. Trump's Immigration Policies and Supreme Court Expectations

Timestamp: [32:11] – [37:29]

The hosts return to political discourse, focusing on former President Donald Trump's recent immigration policy announcements. They analyze the ban on immigrants from several countries, questioning its consistency and underlying motives, especially in the aftermath of violent incidents attributed to illegal immigrants.

Notable Quotes:
Joe Getty: "I guarantee you this is at least 70-80% of people saying 'fine with me.' [...] a majority of people say fine with me. I have no problem."
[36:28 – 36:47]

Jack Armstrong: "It's like another Muslim travel ban to me, including such Muslim hot spots as Haiti and Myanmar."
[36:18 – 36:28]

Additionally, the discussion touches upon the Supreme Court's potential response to Trump's immigration stance, referencing past precedents like the Muslim ban and anticipating similar outcomes.

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Conclusion

Throughout the episode, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty navigate a wide array of topics, blending political commentary, scientific insights, and humor. They maintain a critical stance on media biases, Supreme Court decisions, and immigration policies, all while engaging listeners with relatable anecdotes and sharp wit. The episode underscores the hosts' commitment to addressing contemporary issues with both depth and levity.

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Notable Overall Quotes:

Jack Armstrong: "The perspective we're trying to give will not be repeated in the Bigfoot media. And that is a shame because it's so important."
[25:31 – 25:39]

Joe Getty: "It's all the shade on David Muir."
[33:48 – 33:51]

Jack Armstrong: "There's nothing to see here, revelation that other presidents have used the autopilot. When you're wandering around with your mouth agape and you don't know where you are and you're using the autopilot lot, people wonder, okay, so Joe Biden actually sent a statement to Politico yesterday..."
[16:52 – 17:59]

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Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

This is an iHeart podcast broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

And.

[Unnamed Speaker]

A Chinese scientist entered the United States in July with a poisonous fungus and his backpack. His destination, a laboratory at the University of Michigan where he would rendezvous with his girlfriend. Here's a conversation between the suspects on a chat about the attempts to sneak the deadly pathogen into the United States. Teacher Liang's seeds must be placed. Well, where to put it? I only have one pair of shoes. The insole cannot be pulled off. Did you bring just one pair of shoes? 3 pair. Wear 1 pair. Where did the seeds get put in? In the tube. I put them in my Martin boots in a small bag. The Ziploc bag. Very small. That's good. Just put it in your shoes. I stuff them in the shoes.

[Joe Getty]

That was the man and his girlfriend who claimed he didn't know anything about the fungus. And then she said, I didn't ask him to bring it in. And then they found the text messages, which made it clear that they knew they were doing something they shouldn't do, and they were working together. That's why they have been arrested.

[Jack Armstrong]

Chinese agent is trying to smuggle in a dangerous pathogen to poison our crops. Although, as we mentioned a couple hours ago, Greg from Sunnyvale with this note. Come on, you racists. You're perpetuating the increase in violent attacks on Asian Americans. The fungus is just a discoloration of the toenails of the pangolin that was eating a bat at the wet market. But we should probably ask Dr. Fauci to be sure.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, Supreme Court is releasing judgments. Got a couple of headlines for you. Maybe we'll do a deep dive on them a little bit later. One breaking news. The Supreme Court unanimously blocked the Mexican government from proceeding with an unusual lawsuit, says the Washington Post, that sought to hold major US Firearms manufacturers accountable for gun violence in Mexico. Well, it always seemed stupid. I can't believe it had to go all the way to the Supreme Court. But anyway, that ain't gonna happen. This one is interesting, though. The Supreme Court rules for a straight woman in a job discrimination suit. The justices rejected an appeals court's requirement that members of majority groups meet a heightened standard to win employment discrimination cases. If you're a dude or white, you have to have some serious reasons for why you were discriminated against prior. Now, it's just, if you're discriminated, you're discriminated. It doesn't matter.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is another loud and unequivocal statement that racial discrimination, bigotry, whatever is bigotry.

[Joe Getty]

You can't.

[Jack Armstrong]

Doesn't matter who's on the receiving end. We won't have it.

[Joe Getty]

I was about to say this, but I think John Roberts actually said this recently. You can't fight discrimination with discrimination.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. And again, cut the crap. Well, no, that's not true because the dominant group in the hetero patriarchy, blah, blah. No, we don't let you discriminate based on sexual orientation or race in the United States. We don't do it. It's illegal. Well, but the oppressor group. No, cut the crap.

[Joe Getty]

I think it's a simple principle.

[Jack Armstrong]

Stick to it.

[Joe Getty]

I think closer to his actual quote was, you can't fix discrimination with discrimination. Which is right, obviously true.

[Jack Armstrong]

Amen. Well done, Supes. Well done. One more thought before I get into really interesting stuff about sleep. Just had to mention this. Have you seen Cory Booker giving the Nazi salute?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I have.

[Jack Armstrong]

Actually side by side with Elon Musk's quote, unquote, Nazi salute there at the. It was the inauguration speech or the convention, whatever it was, when a big deal was made of that. I mean, side by side, it's like the famous Marx Brothers bit from Duck Soup where Groucho and Harpo are mirror images of each other. I mean, it is precisely the same blanking gesture. Here's a list.

[Joe Getty]

Cory Booker, who is a Democratic senator.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. From New Jersey. The Spartacus speech. Google it. ChatGPT. Anyway, here is a list of the news networks who have not covered Cory Booker's Nazi salute. The New York Times, cnn, Washington Post, msnbc, npr, USA Today, Reuters, Axios, and ABC News. Why would I list them? Every single one of them wrote stories on Elon Musk's Nazi salute.

[Joe Getty]

I know. Know a family, actually know a family. Husband, wife and child. Tipping point for them leaving the country. They're actually leaving the country. Not kidding. Was Elon's Nazi salute. And if you don't think it was a Nazi salute, you are blind. Obviously, it was a Nazi salute.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. How?

[Joe Getty]

I. I don't even know. I don't even know. I don't even know how to explain that. These are two smart people too.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, as I say all the time, intelligence and wisdom are unconnected. Have you been a good little Nazi?

[Joe Getty]

That's from Cory Book.

[Jack Armstrong]

Certainly.

[Joe Getty]

Try.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, yes, that was. That was the title of Cory Booker's speech as I understand it. So this is so interesting and I think it applies to all. I think it applies to all. Of course it applies to all of us. The genetic components of sleep. Without eight or nine hours of sleep, most of us would stagger around like zombies. Well, six to eight to nine, whatever. But according to the new study, some people have a genetic mutation that makes them feel perfectly terrific after sleeping only about half as much.

[Joe Getty]

Well, you kind of yada yada, six to nine. I mean, six is way different than nine. That gives you an extra three hours a day of productivity or leisure or whatever you want to do.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sure. Sleeping, and this is so important, sleeping gives the body a chance to detox and clear out the junk from your brain. And I've also heard it described by neuroscientists as when you do your filing and when you do your combining of ideas and finding the patterns and that sort of thing, a lot of that stuff happens while you're asleep anyway. Well, the human body typically takes about eight or nine hours to do this. Having what's called the short sleep mutation makes this possible. Within just three to six hours. There's this neuroscientist who researches gene mutations related to sleep. He's now discovered another mutation that contributes to natural short sleep. They call it NSS in this field. Adding to the five already known mutations that she and her team previously discovered. So there are a half a dozen of them that, you know, if you have them in various combinations, you need much less sleep and you are absolutely fine. They're genes involved in metabolism, energy and your circadian rhythms.

[Joe Getty]

First of all, it's odd that it's always round number six, seven, nine, as opposed to and a half. I think I'm a six and a half guy. I can get by in six quite easily. Seven is absolutely plenty. So I think six and a half is my sweet spot. So I might be a bit of a mutant myself. That in my tail, if I.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right. I've got a tail, but you keep well hidden.

[Joe Getty]

Most days I tuck it in my pants.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, right. We could get into some of the biochemistry of this, but I don't think anybody remember it even if we comprehended it.

[Joe Getty]

My question is this. If you could genetically edit the embryo for your child, would you not choose? I don't know. They only need seven hours of sleep as opposed to nine. Why wouldn't you do that?

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, I'd certainly spend an hour or two reading about it and making sure there's no downside. But yeah, yeah, that seems to me.

[Joe Getty]

Like a. I actually don't think near. I, I think anytime you get into that kind of playing God, you're getting dangerous. But yeah, but that might just be old timey thinking. Maybe there's absolutely no downside to choose. You know, this is just a genetic change where, you know, one is better than the other, period. And why wouldn't you want the better.

[Jack Armstrong]

As often in these things? Well, practically always it has to do with various hormones you've never heard of, excreted by your hypothalamus, blah, blah, blah. And other ones, some keep you awake, some promote sleep, and it's well again the biochemistry. If we start into it, it would take too long. But really super interesting. You know, I'm thinking about your. Would you choose that for your child if you could? Old timey thinking, when we hear more and more and more stories like I brought the other day about a little baby who was born with a very rare genetic condition, that the CRISPR technology is really helping. Otherwise the kid would probably already be dead.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Beautiful little boy. And I think as we get more and more used to the non Frankensteinian uses of this stuff, the acceptance of certainly your really innocent stuff like needing less sleep. And eventually, yes, we will be designing babies with 6 foot 2, blonde hair, blue eyes and super geniuses, etc. But by then, you know, the other things that we talk about all the time will have doom the human race. So it's ultimately futile. Back to you.

[Joe Getty]

Speaking of which, have you seen the trailers for the new Frankenstein movie?

[Jack Armstrong]

I have not. I had no idea there was one.

[Joe Getty]

There is a new Frankenstein movie coming up directed by Guillermo del Toro, was, you know, very famous in all respects. Oh yeah, and, and it looks pretty, pretty cool. I don't know if it's a darker take on Frankenstein, which he kills puppies or something, I don't know. But. Or, or what? Or just the latest modern. But you know, with the modern CGI and everything like that, who knows? Could be great.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. The modern movie audience is not me. And vice versa. On the other hand, if you were to do something completely non stylized, do a retelling of the Frankenstein story, almost like a documentary, I think that would be incredibly compelling and chilling and freaky and you would never forget it. You know what I mean? They've always got to like really tart it up and.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I've been meaning to talk about this. I got to find a spot to talk about this maybe in the One More Thing podcast. But there are certain like dumb things that happen in every movie I watch with my kids. And I just think how Dumb. Do you think we are just really.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is the audience very, very dumb?

[Joe Getty]

Is it. Is the audience as dumb as Hollywood thinks it is? I don't think. I don't believe so. I hang around a lot of normal people. I'm a normal person. I don't think we're that dumb.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, by. In response, I would offer. Trump's just trying to keep those tax cuts going for millionaires and billionaires and giant corporations, the expense of the middle class and working people. That's the Democratic Party's view of the movie audience, which is also the voter. And they spend a hell of a lot of money figuring this stuff out.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. My son wants to see the new Jurassic park in the theater. There are some movies that are better in a theater than at home. No doubt. You know, if you're gonna watch, you know, some mostly talking love interest story with a deep plot where they discuss philosophy, that's fine on your television, but if you're gonna watch. I can't ever think of the name of the latest Marvel movie that I liked so much. The. The. The Untouchables. The. The. The Fruitables. That wasn't Scumbags anyway. But if you want to see something like that. Yes, Katie.

[Jack Armstrong]

The Knuckles.

[Unnamed Speaker]

The Uncrustables.

[Joe Getty]

The Uncrustables, yes. If you want to see the Uncrustables, you want to see it in the theater, in the big screen. There's just something more impactful about it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, New Wes Anderson. Anderson movie. Can't wait to see that. That's worth seeing on the big screen, too, because it's always so visual, visually striking his movies.

[Joe Getty]

If you haven't been to the theater.

[Jack Armstrong]

That sentence was terrible. I was looking at the clock and thinking, you got to rush through that. It was a bad idea, folks. I apologize for my sentence.

[Joe Getty]

If you haven't been to the theater in a while, though, don't by the prices it's going to get. You take someone with you, you're going to spend 60 bucks easily, maybe 80 bucks. Oh, absolutely.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thanks for taking my money.

[Joe Getty]

Freaking lootly, you are.

[Jack Armstrong]

We smuggle our own snacks in.

[Joe Getty]

Well, okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm just paying for the ticket.

[Joe Getty]

If you want to defraud an innkeeper and be part of the criminal element, then sure. The Supreme Court decisions and some other things on the way.

[Unnamed Speaker]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Unnamed Speaker]

If we don't have avenues for people to come here legally to work or to build a home here, I'm going to be really crude right now.

[Jack Armstrong]

We're not going to have anybody around.

[Unnamed Speaker]

To wipe our because we don't have enough people in our country now to fill the jobs that we have right now.

[Jack Armstrong]

That is Representative Becca Ballant, a Democrat of Vermont, explaining why we need lots of immigration, essentially because we're not having babies and we're not, you know, growing as a country without immigration and we're not going to have anybody to wipe our hind ends when we are old.

[Joe Getty]

What did she say at the beginning? I couldn't quite understand it. What was she saying? You don't need to play it again because I won't be able to understand it again this time. She said we won't have people to.

[Jack Armstrong]

What, wipe our hineies. That's what she actually says? Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

That's what you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Powerful argument in favor of opening the border.

[Joe Getty]

I can hire an illegal to do that for me. I'm not sure I want to. I feel like I'd feel vulnerable.

[Jack Armstrong]

What's the application process exactly?

[Joe Getty]

What. What position do I need to get into for this to happen?

[Jack Armstrong]

I think the interview unfolds.

[Joe Getty]

I think I'm gonna feel very vulnerable.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Okay.

[Joe Getty]

I am doing my hey, Katie, three days in a row now. I've done my planks ever since you explained how to do them and everything like that. So I'm a plank guy now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, good.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'll see if I get any benefits out of it. I Don't know. Just say, how's your core feeling? I don't know. 32 different muscle groups worked with a plank, so that's a lot of muscle groups.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's. I heard that on the podcast. That's fascinating. I. I need to get back to it myself.

[Joe Getty]

I'd never done it before. I'll see if it does me any good or if I feel like it does. Meaning good. So this story, maybe you've heard it or not. Trump is attacking Biden and Republicans are tagging Biden for a, you know, did you know that you signed all this stuff? You used the auto pen, which is perfectly fine to use the auto pen. Presidents, since they invented it, have been using the auto pen sometimes, but it's, it is a different story. That, that doesn't. That's not, that is a. That is not a. There's nothing to see here revelation that other presidents have used the autopad. When you're wandering around with your mouth agape and you don't know where you are and you're using the auto panel lot, people wonder, okay, so Joe Biden actually sent a statement to Politico yesterday, to Politico that said, let me be clear. I made the decisions during my presidency. I made the decisions about the pardons, executive orders, legislation and proclamations. Any suggestion that I didn't is ridiculous and false. This is nothing more than a distraction by Donald Trump and congressional Republicans who are working to push disastrous legislation that would cut essential programs like Medicaid and raise costs on American families, all to pay for tax breaks for the ultra wealthy and big corporations. That last part being a 100% lie. And there's lots of places you can go to for analysis of the 2017 tax cut and who had benefited and who. It didn't question.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sorry, did you say the Easter Bunny wrote that statement?

[Joe Getty]

Well, right. Question number one, Did Biden write that or not?

[Jack Armstrong]

Of course not.

[Joe Getty]

The statement claiming he made the statement. But anyway, I thought Mark Halperin's summary of this was pretty good. Mark Halpern in his newsletter today said, amazing that after all we have learned about Biden and how his presidency operated, that the media is still in there. There is no evidence for Trump's baseless accusations mode. Instead of just reprinting what the president says with like, no. On the other hand, there's credible sources, right? There's a book out making it clear that five people were running. The White House didn't throw any of that in. You just take the statement, the press release from the former president and print it and on you go. That is amazing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it's a slight variation on the Republicans pounce technique, but you realize one.

[Joe Getty]

Of the most famous left leaning journalists in America, Jake Tapper, is doing a two hour podcast every day explaining how Joe Biden's brain didn't work and other people were running the White House. He can't ignore that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Politico apparently can.

[Joe Getty]

Apparently you can.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just look, just watch. Supreme Court with a couple of big rulings. One much bigger than the other, frankly. Plus, hour four. Can't wait to get to this. Science has figured out how to fall in love.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Fall in love. You want to be in love? We'll tell you how.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Unnamed Speaker]

Armstrong and Getty, they're the absolute worst group of people we've got in our country. And it's not even close to. I think we'd all be better off with them gone. But as I was saying, my administration and I have been taking careful note of the work of Colossal Labs, the biotech company that resurrected the dire wolf. If they can bring back wolves, they can bring back dinosaurs. Terrible lizard. That's what dinosaur means if you break it down. But picture this, folks. Velociraptor mounted border patrol agents. They'll rip your head clear off. Pterodactyls patrolling the skies. Velociraptors on the ground. To prevent the immigration apocalypse, we may have to counter with a dino pocalypse, folks. It's true.

[Joe Getty]

I'm glad, Hanson. I'm glad you said, don't tell people it's AI before we play it, because it was much better that way.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

That. Because that if we didn't come on and say it was AI, Lots of people would say, holy crap, did you hear the crazy S. Trump said today?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, surely they would have figured it out. There's video, too. You can see it at Armstrong and getty.com@katie's Corner. Wow. Yeah, there are a couple of new AI things out that, I mean, as if you needed this. It's over, folks. It's over. The ability to discern reality from creation in video and audio and all. Oh, I saw where they edited. No, it's over.

[Joe Getty]

It's all. Everything's over soon. See, the two years or 20 years, I'm not sure. But it'll all be over soon. So that's why I'm doing all my planks. So my core is ready.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you got to be ready. You got to have a good core for the apocalypse, no doubt. You know, as Long as we're talking about that sort of thing, why don't we do the. And. And again, the video element of this is pretty good, too. And we'll have it in Armstrong and getty.com. this is a next clip. Michael 11, man on the street interviews from the 1500s.

[Unnamed Speaker]

What's life like for you right now?

[Joe Getty]

Woke up, stepped in dung, got taxed.

[Unnamed Speaker]

And that was before breakfast.

[Joe Getty]

Do you enjoy your work? Oh, yeah. It's honest work and no one talks back.

[Unnamed Speaker]

What do you think of King Henry? Oh, well, he's very committed to marrying. How's the health situation looking? Well, everyone I saw yesterday is dead today. How do you respond to the witch accusations? If I were a witch, you'd already be a frog. What's the biggest challenge for a noble woman these days? Three hours to get dressed and still no pockets.

How's business?

Flour shortage. The oven is cursed.

[Joe Getty]

Rats.

[Unnamed Speaker]

Lots of rats. What's life like for a farmer right now? Hard work, sore back, but the soil is good this year. Might even eat something with meat next week.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, that's.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And all completely convincing MOS from the year 1500. Yeah. Amazing. Amazing.

[Joe Getty]

Man on the dirt road.

[Jack Armstrong]

Meanwhile, back in the present. This is huge. In fact, it is so devastatingly huge, I think most people will miss the hugeness of it.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

The Supreme Court rejected an appeals court requirement that members of a majority group meet meet a heightened standard to win employment discrimination cases. I will give you the particulars of the case and the facts. This is a unanimous ruling.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, I didn't know that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes. The Supreme Court unanimously ruled in favor of a straight woman who twice lost positions to gay workers, saying an appeals court had been wrong to require her to meet a heightened burden in seeking to prove workplace discrimination because she was a member of a majority group. I've got to admit to more than mild surprise that this is unanimous. I thought at least Katanji Brown Jackson was down with the whole woke victim oppressor.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's awesome. I would like to know about the wrangling behind the scenes. You know, back in the day, the civil rights legislation was often 9 0, and they would work really hard to come up with something they could all sign on to because it was so important. They felt that they needed a unified front so there couldn't be any claims of. Well, it's just because he was appointed by whoever. Whatever. And I wonder if any of that went on here. But again, I'm surprised that some of the justices agree that having a different standard because you're in the majority white man. Whatever is, is, is ridiculous. Discrimination is a discrimination, period. And you can't fix the past discrimination with present Discrimination. Obviously.

[Jack Armstrong]

Speaking KBJ. Telling quote from her. Stay tuned for like 10 seconds. The decision came two years after the Supreme Court struck down race conscious conscious admissions programs in higher education and amid the Trump administration, administration's fierce efforts, excuse me, to root out programs that promote diversity. Oh my God. Yeah. And could make it easier for white people, men and other members of majority groups to pursue claims of employment discrimination. The New York Times obviously, as usual, weighing in with a little editorial in the midst of their reporting facts. The standards for, for proving workplace discrimination under federal civil rights law, Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson wrote for the court, quote, does not vary based on whether or not the plaintiff is a member of a majority group. Wow. Course it doesn't. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. I have renewed respect for her. Or en. Heightened respect I guess would maybe be fair. But that is something. They're so clearly right, all nine of them. This is, you're right. This is huge. This is absolutely huge. And how many times have you heard. We've played clips of over the years. You can't discriminate against a white person.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, sure. Or there's the only. It's not racism if a black person hates a white person or hates an Asian person or a Chinese person hates a. No, it can only be racism if it is the majority group, the power group, having prejudice against the less powerful group. Literally. Ibram X Kendi would tell you, no, there's no such thing as black racism. It can't exist.

[Joe Getty]

Read that quote again from the most woke leaning member of the nine justices.

[Jack Armstrong]

The standards for proving workplace discrimination under federal civil rights law quote, does not vary based on whether or not the plaintiff is a member of a majority group.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, that's fantastic.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is the liberals of the Supreme Court standing up for, well, classical liberalism. The idea that no, no discrimination, bigotry is wrong no matter in what direction it's going. We are not, repeat, not down with the woke crowd.

[Joe Getty]

Boy. The, the, the tentacles or ripples on the pond or whatever you want to use could be huge.

[Jack Armstrong]

The, the, the perspective we're trying to give will not be repeated in the Bigfoot media. And that is a shame because it's so important. But the perspective is the whole woke paradigm, the whole neo Marxist, victim, oppressor, white supremacist thing is, is held by such a small group of people, such a small, angry, adamant activist radical. It's had an outsized shadow on the American conversation for way too long, particularly in the wake of the George Floyd Mayhem. It is literally, well, figuratively, sorry, a shadow cast that is so much larger than the reality of the support for those ideas. And the Supreme Court has just said, look, even our most liberal members understand you cannot run a society based on the principles every damn undergrad is being, you know, told at their, their colleges and universities. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

That's why the 9 ruling is so important for this. So that it can't be a, the Trump court, the out of control MAGA court, etc. If it was a 63 of a certain kind or something. Yeah. So that, that's. This is awesome. This is awesome.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, we could go off on a tangent there.

[Joe Getty]

No kidding. What does that mean? When other courts ruled the other direction and the Supreme Court says nine to nothing. You guys, women are wrong.

[Jack Armstrong]

Including kjb, kbj, Judge Katanji. Yeah. That is a rather stunning indictment he uses. Mixing legal terms of our appeals courts, certainly some of them. Anyway. The case was originally brought by Marlene Ames, who had worked for the Ohio Department of Youth Services, Overseas Juvenile Corrections, among other things. After a decade there, she became the administrator of a program addressing prison rape. Five years later, she applied for a promotion. Her supervisors turned her down, saying she lacked vision and leadership skills. They eventually gave the position to a gay woman who had been at the department for a shorter time and, unlike Ms. Ames, lacked a college degree. It doesn't prove anything. Not long after denying her the new position, her supervisors removed her from her existing job, telling her that they had concerns about her leadership and offering her a demotion that came with a substantial pay cut. She was replaced by a gay man with less seniority, and she sued. Under the federal civil rights rights law that forbids employment discrimination, among other things, on sex, the text of the law does not draw distinctions on. Based on whether the person claiming discrimination is a member of a majority group. Of course it doesn't. But some courts have required plaintiffs from majority groups to prove additional elements if they lack direct evidence of discrimination. Background circumstances that support the suspicion that the defendant is that unusual employer who discriminates against the majority. Oh, I see why that is a convoluted sentence.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway.

[Jack Armstrong]

You need additional evidence. Lower courts ruled against Ms. Ames on those grounds. U.S. court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit in Cincinnati said she could have satisfied the background circumstances requirement by showing the decisions about her employment were made by a member of a relative. My. Blah, blah, blah. They get way into the weeds.

[Joe Getty]

Does this have any effect going the other direction in that. I know corporations sometimes are really scared to fire a. Let's use an extreme example. Black female, gay woman. I don't need to say female and woman. A black gay woman. Because it's so easy to say it was. Because I was these things. But does it have any effect going that direction, I wonder?

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, that's an interesting point. I think one of the unfortunate side effects of this might be. Now that you pointed out quite aptly. Well done, Jack.

[Joe Getty]

Thanks. I'm working on my core.

[Jack Armstrong]

If this. If this makes it easier in general to bring discrimination lawsuits, I'm not sure we're going to love where that ends up. Yeah. And that may be. This could be, and I hate to admit this, this could be one of those cases where constitutional scholars are. Are shouting at the mainstream media. You people are morons who don't understand this at all. Then they shout at us. You guys are missing part of the point. You're going to see discrimination lawsuits run wild now. Although. Well, no, no, no, no, no. Because that heightened level of scrutiny required was only Required of people in majority groups.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

And so what the 9 nothing justice majority said is. No, no, it's the same for everybody.

[Joe Getty]

Interesting.

[Jack Armstrong]

You can't be against that. If we have to work through some interesting ripple effects, fine. But you got to be in favor.

[Joe Getty]

I might go to Twitter and see what our friend Tim the lawyer has said about this. And we got other stuff on the way. Stay here.

[Unnamed Speaker]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

We hate David Muir around here. He's the evening anchor of the ABC Evening News. He's just so smarmy and just hard to take.

[Jack Armstrong]

Self satisfied, highly biased.

[Joe Getty]

Combining that with the fact that I know a lot of you are into the, the baby eagle story. You've been, you know, sitting there with the, the eagle cam on while you're at work and seeing if the baby's fly or not. The tease from David Muir last night on the website. Did the baby eagle fly? And just his super. I don't know what it is about him that just turns my stomach. Yes, Katie. No, I'm, I'm agreeing with you. So. But I didn't hear his actual report because it was so annoying me so much. But here's his report.

[Unnamed Speaker]

Family of all eagles in Southern California's San Bernardino Mountains. The baby eaglets sisters named Sunny and Gizmo, now as big as their parents. And then Monday, Sunny, who is 90 days old, leaving the nest. So many asking, would that older sister ever come back? 24 hours after she flew the coop, Sunny returned just a few hours later. Mom and dad and little sister Gizmo together eating a fish. When from another camera, you can see the older sister Sunny fly in again. The family looking up at her. And then Sunny flying down, joining her family for that meal. And of course, all eyes remain on that little sister waiting for her to.

[Joe Getty]

Take flight, I think.

[Jack Armstrong]

And one of the eagles learned how to play acoustic guitar, apparently.

[Joe Getty]

The mighty Eagle sore. I feel like everybody's reading a little too much into the thoughts of some of these eagles expressions.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or they looked up to see the big sister return and then continued eating a fish.

[Joe Getty]

Anyway, so that's that story. And you know, no, no shade on anybody who's digging that story because, you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Know, it's all the shade on David Muir.

[Joe Getty]

All the shades on David Muir.

[Jack Armstrong]

Baby eagle murdering a mouse. Baby eagle.

[Joe Getty]

Trump is sitting with the German chancellor right now. So he talked to Xi this morning. He put out a long truth social about that meeting. Said they're gonna have, they're gonna meet or his people are gonna meet and the trade is blah. Blah, blah. But he mentions at the end of his truth social we did not discuss Rich discuss Russia, Ukraine or Iran at all. He said he's now sitting with the German chancellor. Surely some reporters gonna ask to me the obvious question. A week ago you German chancellor said the United States was on board with the fact that Ukraine can fire missiles as deep into Russia as they want. True or not? Because the White House has not commented on that. So I, I would like somebody to ask that question. But so far nothing exciting has happened happen. One other thing. Trump announced last night a ban on a whole bunch of different countries. It's a little confusing because it looks like it's based on the nut job immigration wise. Immigration wise it's a, it's a little confusing because it looks like this is based on the horrifying attack in Boulder, Colorado with the nut job Jew hating wannabe killer, you know, setting a bunch of Jews on fire. He was here illegally. Then Trump comes out with a long list of countries who, you're not allowed to immigrate to migrate here from those countries without special scrutiny on all these different sorts of things. Turns out on the list, Egypt is not on that list. So I find that a little confusing. So is it based on this guy or not? But I thought this was interesting. Mark Halperin's analysis this of analysis of this on his newsletter today. This is immigration issue number 198 in which the dominant media hasn't a clue about where the public opinion is. I guarantee you this is at least 70, 30, if not 80, 20 of people saying fine with me. Oh yeah, especially if you could get them, you know, behind closed doors, anonymously. Maybe you wouldn't say it out loud in some of your friends who you're afraid don't feel the same way. But lots of people, a majority of people say fine with me. I have no problem.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's like another Muslim travel ban to me, Jack, including such Muslim hot spots as Haiti and Myanmar.

[Joe Getty]

So Cuba, the countries are, it's a list of countries where they got sloppy passport systems.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh yes. Yeah. You've got complete bans of travel to the US From a bunch of countries and then partial bans. You can't permanently immigrate. And there'll be heightened scrutiny, as you said, for a bunch of other ones.

[Joe Getty]

And speaking of the Supreme Court, at least the news nation political analyst or court analyst I saw this morning said he thinks it's a slam dunk that the Supreme Court will say this is okay as opposed to the Muslim ban from the first term.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, which was never true anyway. But yeah, we'll have to see how this plays out. But it seems thoroughly reasonable to me. We can't vet these people properly. They have a history of sending provocateurs, agents and terrorists, so we're not going to let them in anymore.

[Joe Getty]

Maybe fungi slipped in in a backpack. You don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

And we're still letting Chinese people come.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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