Ya Just Didn't Know It!

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: Ya Just Didn't Know It!
Date: September 10, 2025

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Overview

In this episode, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty cover a wide spectrum of current events and cultural commentary, with their trademark blend of humor and blunt skepticism. The pair discuss recent tech launches (including new Apple products), the realities and worries of AI’s impact on careers, new economic insights pointing to a hidden recession, the explosive NATO-Russia incident involving drone incursions into Polish airspace, and the controversial Israeli operation against Hamas leadership in Qatar. The topics are stitched together by Armstrong & Getty's lighthearted yet critical banter, with occasional dives into personal anecdotes and pointed commentary on human nature.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Apple’s Latest Event: New Products & "Necessary" Upgrades (01:28–04:14)

• Apple’s new iPhone 17 and AirPods launch draws typical Armstrong & Getty skepticism.
  • Mockery of new color names: “which come in lavender, sage mist blue, and a few others that sound like women's deodorant.” – Jack Armstrong (01:33)
  • Both hosts point out the silliness of colors for devices people hide under protective cases.
  • Improved AirPods: Comment on Apple finally addressing the fit by analyzing 10,000 ear scans, leading to a tangent about bone-conduction headphones. Joe raves about how bone-conducting headphones allow better awareness in environments like the gym or biking.
    • “I'll never wear them flipping things in my ears ever again in my life because I find it annoying. I always feel like they're about to fall out or they do fall out or whatever.” – Joe Getty (02:24)
  • Satire on Apple watch upgrades and people’s obsession with thinner phones.

2. The Shaky Value of Job Security and College Degrees in the AI Era (05:10–08:32)

• Discussion on a new poll showing only 16% of Gen Z parents believe a college degree guarantees long term job security.
  • “If you think you've got guaranteed job security in any industry with any level of education or skill, you're kind of dumb.” – Joe Getty (05:50)
  • Anecdote: Jack’s father’s laconic wisdom about job security—there isn’t any, the economy is always changing.
• Review of a list of “AI-resistant” careers as perceived by Gen Z parents, ranging from plumber to software developer—with skepticism about the accuracy of jobs being "safe."
  • Plumber, HVAC tech, electrician, nurse ranked most resistant.
  • Joke: "I don't want a robot nurse coming at me with a needle. No way." – Jack Armstrong (08:28)
  • Jack and Joe point out that legal and software professions are, counterintuitively, seen as relatively safe—despite obvious AI vulnerability.

3. AI "Hallucinations" and the Problem of Trusting Chatbots (08:43–10:38)

• Jack shares a story about asking ChatGPT for guitar chords to a song and getting completely wrong results. When challenged, ChatGPT conceded and corrected itself.
  • “And it gave me completely the wrong chords. I mean, just, just wrong. And I called it on it... And they go, yeah, my bad, you're right, it is.” – Jack Armstrong (09:14)
  • The pair point out the dangers: When AI gives info you know is wrong, at least you can catch it—what about when you don’t know?
  • “When I chat GPT the population of Nepal... it could have told me a wildly wrong number... But I wouldn't have known.” – Joe Getty (10:17)

4. Social Media & Revolutions: The Nepal Story (10:40–13:01)

• Nepal’s revolution is linked partially to social media-fueled rage over elite excesses. Rich youths showed off extravagant lifestyles online, sparking real-world outrage and violence among the poor majority.
  • “...kids of one elite family showing a Christmas tree made out of Louis Vuitton bags... that made the rounds on social media. So people were in the streets.” – Joe Getty (11:19)
  • Soundbite-style parallelism with historical "let them eat cake" moments.
  • Discussion on the economic dependence of Nepal on remittances and how social media bans backfired, cutting off communication for millions of migrant workers.

5. The "Rolling Recession": Economic News & Analyst Contrarian Views (13:15–20:09)

• Morgan Stanley’s chief US equity strategist’s theory: The US has had a “rolling recession” over the last three years, with some sectors hit hard while headline indicators mislead.
  • “Central to our view is the notion that the economy has been much weaker for many companies and consumers... than what headline economic statistics... suggest.” (Quoted from analyst, 18:26)
  • Jack and Joe note the stock market continues to break records, but it’s driven by a handful of tech stocks—masking the struggles of other sectors.
  • Health insurance premiums for businesses are rising at the fastest rate in 15 years, adding to pressures.

6. NATO-Russia Tensions: Polish Airspace Breach & War Worries (22:30–29:00)

• Dramatic escalation: Russian drones breach Polish/NATO airspace, are shot down—called the biggest NATO airspace violation since the Ukraine war began.
• ABC News recaps the emergency in Poland: 19 Russian drones violate Polish airspace; 4 shot down as direct threats.
• Lawmakers and military experts weigh in:
  • Joe Wilson (U.S. Congress): “This is an act of war. And we're grateful to NATO allies for their swift response to war criminals. Putin's continued unprovoked aggression...” – Joe Getty quoting Rep. Wilson (23:41)
  • Discussion of Article 4 vs Article 5: NATO’s collective response structures.
    • “Article five is an attack on one is an attack on all. Article four is if anything hinky happens, we get together.” – Jack Armstrong (27:45)
  • Jokes about progressively less consequential NATO articles (coffee, seating arrangements, etc.) add levity.
  • Historical analogies: "Guns of August" (start of World War I); possibility that small incidents could spiral out of control: “...this certainly could be as big a deal as the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand in terms of setting off a chain of events.” – Joe Getty (27:36)

7. Israel Strikes Hamas Leaders in Qatar: Policy Shift and Diplomatic Fallout (34:44–43:24)

• Notable segment: Lengthy, revealing analysis of Israel’s strike on Hamas leaders in Qatar.
  • New doctrine: “The days are over. The terrorist leaders will have immunity anywhere.” – Benjamin Netanyahu, cited by Jack Armstrong (35:27)
• Interview with the Israeli ambassador to the US, who bluntly declares:
  • “We don't have an issue with the people of Gaza. We don't have an issue with the people of Qatar. We have an issue with the people leading Hamas... those who implemented the slaughter of our citizens will pay the price, the ultimate price.” – Israeli Ambassador (36:16)
  • “If we didn't get them this time, we'll get them the next time.” – Israeli Ambassador, on Hamas leadership (37:17)
  • “Israel, under Prime Minister Netanyahu is changing the face of the Middle East....” Describes degrading of multiple Iran-backed groups and says temporary criticism will subside as the region, and Israel, are "changed for the better." (37:43)
  • Diplomacy vs. blunt action: “They'll rent and rave and pound the table and condemn this and all, but we'll be meeting with them next week.” – Jack Armstrong (38:55)
  • Israel rejects claims of violating Qatari sovereignty or undermining negotiations, framing Hamas as terrorist thugs.
• Discussion of the US’s public vs backchannel stance: The US publicly chides the strike but appears to have quietly accepted its necessity.
  • “The message that's actually being sent from the United States is, look, this isn't gonna happen a lot, but it happened this once. Okay.” – Jack Armstrong (35:44)
• Strong summary of Israel's stance: “We are not going to live with jihadis on our border anymore. That's over.” – Jack Armstrong echoing Israeli Ambassador (40:43, 40:49)
• Debate: Is peace or negotiation even possible if Hamas negotiators are repeatedly targeted? Brett Baer’s pointed question, followed by Israel’s moral justification.

8. Miscellaneous & Cultural Moments

• Larry Ellison becomes world's richest man due to the AI cloud boom (briefly noted, 33:53–34:28).
• Recurring joke: “Things are getting weird and they're getting weird fast.” – Jack Armstrong (31:43)
• Personal quips: Prunes as a natural remedy for, er, “no movement” – lightens the heavy global topics (29:10–29:36).

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Notable Quotes and Moments

• “People are strange. I don't like humans.” – Jack Armstrong, on obsession with phone colors (03:52)
• “If you think you've got guaranteed job security in any industry with any level of education or skill, you're kind of dumb.” – Joe Getty (05:50)
• “I don't want a robot nurse coming at me with a needle. No way.” – Jack Armstrong (08:28)
• “I was playing a song that I really like... so I asked Chat GPT. Hey, give me the chords to this song... And it gave me completely the wrong chords.” – Jack Armstrong (09:14)
• “The super rich kids of the elite had been posting... look how cool my life is stuff on social media and it made people... bitter.” – Joe Getty (10:49)
• “We can't gloss over this. You have sweaty wrists.” – Joe Getty (04:45)
• “This is an act of war. And we're grateful to NATO allies for their swift response to war criminals. Putin's continued unprovoked aggression...” (23:41)
• “The days are over. The terrorist leaders will have immunity anywhere.” – Benjamin Netanyahu, via Jack Armstrong (35:27)
• “If we didn't get them this time, we'll get them the next time.” – Israeli Ambassador (37:17)
• “We are not going to live with jihadis on our border anymore. That's over.” – Israeli Ambassador, echoed by Jack (40:43)
• “Things are getting weird and they're getting weird fast.” – Jack Armstrong (31:43)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:28 – Apple Event commentary: iPhones, AirPods, and bone-conduction headphones
• 05:10 – Gen Z parents, job security, and AI threats
• 08:43 – Jack's experience with incorrect AI (ChatGPT) and its implications
• 10:46 – Nepal’s social media-fueled revolution explained
• 13:15 – Analyst explains the "rolling recession"
• 22:30 – Polish airspace breach by Russian drones and NATO Article 4/5 dynamics
• 34:44 – Israel’s strike on Hamas in Qatar and diplomatic consequences
• 40:43 – Ambassador’s uncompromising statement on Israel’s new doctrine

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Tone and Style

Casual, irreverent, smart-alecky with a skeptical tone. Commentary is laced with humor, playful personal anecdotes, and a distinct lack of reverence for the “official stories” behind events. Both hosts bounce between current events and wry asides, poking fun at tech trends, government dysfunction, and the foibles of human nature.

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Summary prepared for listeners who want a comprehensive, engaging recap of the Armstrong & Getty episode—without commercial breaks or non-content segments.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

And now, here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, some business news today. Apple held their big annual launch event and unveiled.

[Joe Getty]

Unveiled their latest products.

[Jack Armstrong]

Apple unveiled the new iPhone 17, which comes in lavender, sage mist blue, and a few others that sound like women's deodorant. You get to pick which stylish color.

[Joe Getty]

That you want hidden under your giant rubber phone case. Yes, I'm glad you mentioned that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Apple said the new AirPods will have an improved fit if they analyze more than 10,000 3D ear scans. Ooh, it's odd. It's like after a decade, Apple looked at the AirPods and thought, hey, what if these fit? Yeah, I've always assumed I just have weird ears.

[Joe Getty]

So I started using the new. Have you used any of the bone conductive earphone thingies that are popular or those.

[Jack Armstrong]

The ones that are kind of against your skull?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Instead of in your ears?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Michael, you jump to the microphone there.

[Israeli Ambassador]

No, I want to know.

[Jack Armstrong]

I've been meaning to try those out.

[Israeli Ambassador]

How do they work, Jack?

[Joe Getty]

I'd read about them. New York Times was raving about it, and I got a fantastic. I don't know. I'll never wear them flipping things in my ears ever again in my life because I find it annoying. I always feel like they're about to fall out or they do fall out or whatever. This. It just. It's like it's up against the Bone behind your ears. And it's really conducting the sound through your bones. It's not really your eardrums hearing the sound. For a variety of reasons. I like the way it sounds better. It's better in terms of, like, if you're worried about volume doing damage, it. It's all kinds of better for wearing at the gym and riding my bike and everything like that. Love them. Absolutely love them.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I've hesitated to ever listen to anything riding my bike because I want to hear the traffic around.

[Joe Getty]

Well, this. These. That's one of the things about these is you can hear people talking to you in traffic and everything like that. And what you're listening to.

[Jack Armstrong]

The conductor would be a good title for a horror movie, by the way.

[Joe Getty]

It would.

[Jack Armstrong]

My wife has used them. I'll have to try it.

[Joe Getty]

Fallon's joke there. I've always wondered about the announcing new colors for iPhones and. And then. And then certain colors selling out. I have known zero people in my life who carry around their thousand dollar computer, which they call their phone, without a case around it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you know what color mine is?

[Joe Getty]

No idea.

[Jack Armstrong]

Neither do I. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I don't even remember what color mine is because it got a case on. But. So how does that become a thing? The purple colors all sold out. I don't care. You'll put a case on it. So are you.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's weird.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's. That's odd. People are strange. I don't like humans.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. And then the new thinner iPhone. I don't know if people are clamoring for that. I'll have to hold one in my hand to see if I really dig it. The Ultra 3 watch. I wear an Ultra apparel ultra watch, which is like having a TV screen on your wrist. They've made a bigger one, so now even a bigger screen on. On your wrist, if that's what you want.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't like wearing watches. I get sweaty. I got sweaty wrists. Coming up. Vlad Putin jabs NATO in the eye. It's a huge provocation. Escalation. What will it lead to? We don't know. More on the Israeli attack on the Hamas guys in Qatar. And I've gotten now a clearer picture of what happened with that whole 500 South Koreans deported from Georgia story. It's just one more example of how ridiculous our immigration system is. So stay with us if you can.

[Joe Getty]

We can't gloss over this. You have sweaty wrists. You must get sweaty.

[Jack Armstrong]

I wore a watch every day of my life from age. I don't know, as a teenager on and just I've just lately I've stopped. Maybe it was Covid or something like that. I don't think. I just don't like one on my wrist.

[Joe Getty]

I couldn't live without my Apple watch. I worked 24 hours.

[Jack Armstrong]

Sound like you were with the iPad. It's fine if I need a watch, but mostly I can't imagine why you'd need one, but it works for you, so good for you.

[Joe Getty]

So is AI gonna destroy the world of jobs? Some people say it will, some people say it won't and then some people in between and when is a question. Also a poll out. The share of Gen Z parents that believe a college degree guarantees long term job security is down to 16%, partially around AI. That's the share of Gen Z parents that believe a college degree guarantees long term job security. It's 17%. Well apparently a lot of people did because it used to be a lot higher number. Now it's down to six.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Guarantees job security.

[Joe Getty]

If you think you've got guaranteed job security in any industry with any level of education or skill, you're kind of dumb. So I'm, so I'm worried about you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Or you work for the government.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's it. You work for the government and you're surrounded by people who work for the government. So you think you get one job and have it the rest of your life and never can ever get fired. That's what's going on there.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think I was in my early ish twenties, Gladys, when I had a conversation with my dad who, God bless him, his birthday, his son, Thanksgiving Day, 85th birthday this year and we're gonna have a big get together. Looking forward to it.

[Joe Getty]

But I was explaining he's gonna have his traditional birthday turkey. That's right.

[Jack Armstrong]

We. I was talking to him about the madness of the radio industry there toward the beginning of my career and before my long and glorious rise to mediocrity. And, and I said there are days I, I wish I had picked a, of a career path with job security. And he looked at me and he said quite sincerely, yeah, which one is that?

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because the economy's always changing. You have to hustle to stay ahead.

[Joe Getty]

To your point and yes, to that point. Careers, parents of Gen Z say they think are AI resistant. Of course, we're all guessing at this point. Your top 10 counting up. This is from Axios. Put this chart out. Accountant, they say that was number 10. I'm not exactly sure why an accountant would be AI proof seems like it's ripe for AI to me, but yeah, that's counterintuitive. Digital marketer. Data analyst. There's another one that seems ripe for AI to me. Software developer, Lawyer.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wait a minute. Didn't we all just learn that anybody can now have AI write your code for you?

[Joe Getty]

They must use the only way I can grasp this reading the wrong list.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is this the most vulnerable day?

[Joe Getty]

The only thing I can grasp is that they presented people with a list of these jobs and then ranked them. Because there's very few people that only 10% of parents thought an accountant was AI resistant, for instance. Anyway, I'll start at the top. Maybe it makes more sense since I don't know how they asked the question. Plumber. Over half of parents think if their kid becomes a plumber, AI ain't gonna ruin that.

[Jack Armstrong]

They're right.

[Joe Getty]

After that. H Vac technician, person that comes and fixes your furnace and your air conditioner. Then electrician, Almost certainly true. Nurses very high. Then practically everything else drops way, way, way, way, way down.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't want a robot nurse coming at me with a needle. No way.

[Joe Getty]

Including lawyer, which is only in the 20 percentile. Now, it depends on what kind of lawyer you are, but a lot of lawyer AI, a lot of your lower end lawyer work.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that, that reminds me. The problem, of course, with AI and law, as we've discussed many times, is it tends to cook up these hallucinations, cite cases that don't exist and the rest of it. And I texted Jack this privately last night, but I was. I was playing a song that I really like. I hadn't played it for a long time and I knew I was getting one of the chords wrong, so I asked Chat GPT. Hey, give me the chords to this song. Happens to be the absolutely brilliant Fisherman's Blues by the Water Boys. And it's four chords over and over again. And it gave me completely the wrong chords. I mean, just, just wrong. And I called it on it. I said, when I say. I said, hey, those chords are wrong. I'm pretty sure it's G to F to the A minor to see. And they go, yeah, my bad, you're right, it is.

[Joe Getty]

What?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, it like went into a frenzy for almost 30 seconds.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of like the screen appearing and disappearing and then cycling through things and then links appearing.

[Joe Getty]

Jim, we got it wrong.

[Jack Armstrong]

It was like he was having some sort of seizure. And finally, after actually it was 36 seconds, it tells me you're right. My bad. The classic water boys version uses the chords I described throughout intro verses and choruses. Well, what the hell happened the first time? And, and it's funny because some of the things that appeared then disappeared were like telling me what happened the first time, but then they disappeared. Right.

[Joe Getty]

And the problem with that is it was a topic where you could catch it being wrong. Whereas when I chat GPT, the population of Nepal the other day because they're having a revolution, it could have told me a wildly wrong number, just like it told you the wildly wrong chords. But I didn't, I didn't. I wouldn't have known.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah, head scratcher.

[Joe Getty]

By the way, did you hear how this revolution in Nepal started?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I've got a decent enough idea.

[Joe Getty]

So it's a very poor country and like lots of poor countries, you have an elite that lives a completely different life than like 95% of the population. Well, the super rich kids of the elite had been posting a whole bunch of look how cool my life is stuff on social media and it made people, I mean, you know, social media has got a comparison problem anyway even with just like your regular neighbors portraying their fantastic vacation. Makes you bitter. But this was the super rich while you're dirt poor, including a whole bunch of kids of one elite family showing a Christmas tree made out of Louis Vuitton bags they took their picture in front of that made the rounds on social media. So people were in the streets. The government reacted by canceling all social media because they thought that was the problem. But sorry, Louis the 16th and you're a wife who said let them eat cake, it's too late.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, in the poor working stiffs because they have enormous unemployment there, especially youth unemployment. Many, many, many Nepalese people go to foreign lands to work as laborers and they stay in touch with their families via social media and then they send back money to their families, the remittances they call them, which really bail out the Nepalese economy. And so double edged sword of oh, we're going to cover up the Louis XIV lifestyle of our elite. And by the way, you can't write home to your wife anymore, so. And yeah, people have gone nuts. I mean it's, that's the straw that broke the camel's back.

[Joe Getty]

Oh yeah, and there's been many dead and all kinds of buildings burnt down and that sort of thing. I mean it's a serious revolution. But if you're dirt poor, that smiling, cocky kid standing in front of their Louis Vuitton bag Christmas tree. Yeah, where's my bat? I'm going to go smash some stuff.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, and blatant corruption. If there's a $25 million like international grant to do something noble sounding elites of the country drain $22 million of it into their accounts. Then they make this pathetic half assed show of spending that last 3 million. But the people have caught on to it.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that's something.

[Jack Armstrong]

People hanging in the city squares.

[Joe Getty]

Absolutely. I know you had another economic thing. We have other stuff to get to. What was the Baba da? We. We attacked another drug boat down there off Venezuela.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Coming back. Bad news. We have had a recession. Good news. It's over. Seems crazy, but it makes sense. One of Wall Street's leading analysts with a really intriguing contrarian opinion.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, I didn't know that. Stay tuned.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Yesterday was Bernie Sanders 84th birthday. Yeah, Democrats promised him a cake, but then they gave it to Hillary.

[Joe Getty]

That reminds me briefly, aoc While she was on that no oligarchs tour with Bernie, a bunch of the financials got released over the weekend. She and all her people were staying in the nicest hotel every town they went to, like the super expensive places. While they're out there talking about oligarchs and taxing the rich.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, the elites and socialism always do great. Speaking of which, and maybe we'll do this in our four. I'd almost forgotten that I'd gotten it. The Democratic Socialists of America, which Bernie and AOC and Mumdani certainly are down with, what they actually believe, what they say they believe in their own words. It will shock you. And the mainstream media is so awfully, evilly, hilariously complicit in it. Anyway, that's hour four. Hope you can stay tuned. First of all, and we won't dwell on this because it's freaking me out and it'll freak everybody out. Health insurance costs for businesses are set to rise by the most in 15 years this year to next year.

[Joe Getty]

Oof.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oof is right. Something's gotta give soon with our completely goofed up, messed up, dishonest, heavily subsidized.

[Joe Getty]

Health care system as the population gets older and older, whatever that stat was the other day, I think one out of six people are 65 or older. And that's when all your health costs are starting to hit, right? Well, at 65 year, you're on the government program, but you get up into your 50s and 60s, you're starting to spend a lot more money in the healthcare world.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Another conversation with Craig the healthcare guru coming up down the road at some point, I'm sure. And then this I found so interesting. One of the top analysts on Wall street says you aren't crazy for thinking the economy felt worse than it looked, according to the quote unquote official numbers for the last three years. This guy is Morgan Stanley's chief US Equity strategist. That means he's Morgan Stanley's number one stocks guy. And he believes we've been in the midst of what he calls a rolling recession for the past three years. And he talks about the weak job numbers that keep being revised downward.

[Joe Getty]

And.

[Jack Armstrong]

How a lot of the, you know, like the second tier numbers have been very, very soft. But the stock market still looks good.

[Joe Getty]

All three indexes hit records again yesterday.

[Jack Armstrong]

But as you pointed out quite appropriately, more than once, it's mostly a few tech stocks that are really up. But this guy's theory is, well, I'll quote him. Central to our view is the notion that the economy has been much weaker for many companies and consumers over the past three years than what headline economic statistics like nominal GDP or employment suggest. In other words, amid the many predictions of a recession about to hit the US economy or a revival of 1970s style stagflation, Wilson this guy has been banging the drum that the recession was already here just in disguise. Essentially, it was affecting one sector of the economy pretty significantly for a year, year and a half. But another sector over here, a big one, was not as affected until, oh now, now they're really getting hammered and they've cut way back on hiring because there's been an 80% collapse in hiring even as inflation is risen and layoffs rolled, as they put it. But he just thinks that certain sectors of the economy have been hiding how bad other sectors of the economy have been doing and they have absolutely been in recession and are getting hammered. But here's some good news. He says, according to the data that we look at to, you know, diagnose that the rolling secret bull market or bull economy has actually begun already. Oh, okay, so the worst is passed. Well, I hope that's true, this guy thinks. Yeah, I hope it's true too. It'll all get gobbled up by increasing health care costs. But oh, I said we were going to leave that behind. Sorry.

[Joe Getty]

So overnight we got the closest we've come to a full scale Europe versus Russia war in 80 years that happened overnight. If you didn't follow Poland shooting down a whole bunch of Russian drones. What's going on there? All the details coming up. It's a pretty big story.

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[Ted Cruz]

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[Ted Cruz]

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[Joe Getty]

I'm a big fan of the prime Minister of Poland, Donald Tusk, who said, I have no reason to claim we're on the brink of war with Russia, but a line has been crossed and it's incomparably more dangerous than it was before. What is he talking about? Well, here's ABC News to spell it.

[ABC News Reporter]

Out for you, top officials here in Europe calling this the biggest violation of NATO airspace by Russia since the war in Ukraine began. And for first time, Poland, a key NATO ally of the US Shooting down Russian drones, breaching its airspace, calling some of those drones a direct threat. Poland saying 19 Russian drones violating its airspace. Dutch and Polish warplanes downing at least four of those drones, which were considered a direct threat. Polish officials seen inspecting the wreckage of a Russian drone the roof of a residential building badly damaged in eastern Poland. That breach of Polish airspace sparking condemnation from European leaders. Poland holding emergency meetings this morning, consulting with NATO allies, calling it a deliberate provocation, saying Moscow is waging war with the whole Western world and warning of the risk of open conflict with Russia.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, this is a big deal. South Carolina Representative Joe Wilson, who is a senior member of the Foreign Affairs Committee here in the United States in our Congress called the incursion an act of war. This is an act of war. And we're grateful to NATO allies for their swift response to war criminals. Putin's continued unprovoked aggression against free and productive nations. You think it's an act of war or is Putin get away with saying accident? I, I was using the metric system instead of the whatever and I misjudged her.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. He'll say something implausible to make. Well, overnight deniability.

[Joe Getty]

Overnight, they said, we have been shown no proof that these were our drones and they were not. Which is what they always say about this sort of crap.

[Jack Armstrong]

Putin's deal is he probes and he probes and he probes, looking for softness, looking for weakness.

[Joe Getty]

Well, he had been getting away with it now for a while.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. That's what I'm saying. Pushing further and further.

[Joe Getty]

I follow the Ukraine war pretty closely on almost daily basis with the Telegraph podcast. That is so good. And they've been talking about and, and bothered by more and more Russian objects. Drones of different sizes flying just barely cutting the corner into Poland. They share a 300 mile border. A little more, little more. And they've been doing that for weeks. And then like really went in last night and then got shot down by a whole bunch of fighter jets. James Stravitas, who used to be the military commander of NATO, so he knows what he's talking about on cnn, talking about this today.

[James Stravitas]

It could get very serious. And Russia, of course, nuclear armed. Naito. Nuclear armed. What the polls are doing about it. Smart move. They've convened an Article 4 meeting. We all know Article 5. An attack on one is an attack on all. There's a step before that. It's an Article 4 conference that's unfolding today in Brussels. What I'm hoping to conclude is that the Russians will, at a minimum, say this is inadvertent. Those drones ended up over there because the Ukrainians interfered with them electronically. This could escalate in a very bad way. Again, Guns of August. How about the drones of September? I'm worried.

[Joe Getty]

Whoa, she sounds heavy there at the end. I can't imagine Putin thinking it's a good idea to go to war with NATO, but he might actually believe NATO would back down.

[Jack Armstrong]

And he.

[Joe Getty]

There's a possibility he's right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I'm trying to come up with a rationale Putin would be using to poke NATO this hard. What he's trying to get out of it. And the only thing I can come up with is he's just testing defenses, which is a thing Russian does routinely. They usually don't fly this deep into somebody's airspace, but they just to see how you would react and to study you. It's like watching game film of another team, but to be this blatant and this deep. Either the jamming actually did, you know, send the drone somewhere they weren't supposed to go, as Russia is claiming, although I assume most of what they say is lies, or he's really, really serious about testing NATO's defenses for some reason. If I was in Estonia right now, I would be, you know, shining my gun. I would be making sure it's clean and ready to go.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that Guns of August Drones of September reference was to famous book about the beginning of World War I. And the point being that minor little conflict turned into the biggest war the world had ever seen. You never know how these things are going to play out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, this is certainly could be as big a deal as the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand in terms of setting off a chain of events.

[Jack Armstrong]

He was a fine fellow and all, but yes, yes, this is big. So article five is an attack on one is an attack on all. Article four is if anything hinky happens, we get together. So obviously they kind of get lighter and lighter as you go up the chat. Article three is whoever brings coffee and donuts rotates between the various member nations.

[Joe Getty]

Article two is. Hey, I thought that was my seat. I'm supposed to sit there.

[Jack Armstrong]

Any dispute over the seating will be settled by an arbitration committee because the US Always wants to sit at the seat by the window with a nice view.

[Joe Getty]

Article 1 is a quick text. What's up?

[Jack Armstrong]

So, yeah, wow. Where this goes, nobody knows.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, but that's a freaking provocative act.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

And in not Estonia or some tiny little country, but damned Poland, who has had Russian boots marching through their country a variety of times over the centuries.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right, Right. All right, well, I guess that's enough of that for now. It is an ongoing story.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I just want it to be.

[Jack Armstrong]

Over, you know, I want to talk about Israel's strike on the Hamas guys in Qatar. In a moment. After a word from our friends at Trust and Will, I think I need.

[Joe Getty]

To add in one more prune.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, goodness.

[Joe Getty]

I'm at day four, if you're keeping track at home.

[Jack Armstrong]

Keeps the doctor away.

[Joe Getty]

I did. I did five days last week before I went to medicine, which isn't a good habit to get into. Five days last week. Now I'm at day four with a natural remedy. Natural remedy of prunes, but apparently not enough prunes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Much like the peace negotiations with Hamas. There's been no movement.

[Joe Getty]

Correct.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

We have a new richest person in the world. Is that right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

We have a new richest person in the world. How did you overtake Elon? I don't know. I'll hit you with that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is it that guy with the luxury brands in France?

[Joe Getty]

No, Larry Ellison.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, really?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well done, Larry.

[Joe Getty]

One of yet once again, tech stocks. Getting to the point you're making earlier. Yeah, we set records all the time. It's like four different stocks though, driving the whole thing. It's a little misleading. Anyway, we got a lot on the way.

[Jack Armstrong]

Things are getting weird and they're getting weird fast.

[Joe Getty]

You're right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Elon, Armstrong and Getty.

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[Ted Cruz]

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[Ben Ferguson]

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[Ted Cruz]

Every Monday, Wednesday and Friday we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.

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[Ted Cruz]

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[Joe Getty]

Yeah, very quickly, we have a new richest man in the world. It is Larry Ellison of Oracle. Because of their AI cloud technology, they had their quarterly results come out yesterday. He had an increase in his wealth of $101 billion in one day. What? Pushing him to almost $400 billion, which is slightly ahead of Elon Musk. But the main point being it's all about the AI st. People are betting on AI. They believe it's going to be a big deal.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm probably lucky that I don't really have a clue as to how true that is or not. So I don't spend a lot of time worrying about it. I'd like the weather. I will deal with it when it hits Me in the head.

[Joe Getty]

There's that angle of it. But I would, but I would like to get in on the gold rush while it's happening, you know?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I guess so. Big strike, Israel hitting Hamas leaders in Qatar and very controversial, allegedly. But is it really. And some of the statements being made by people, I think are really illuminating. Like Benjamin Netanyahu said, the days are over. The terrorist leaders will have immunity anywhere. He just stated that we don't care where you are anymore. And then you had, you know, the US Made a statement, the president allegedly, that this, this does not advance the goals of Israel or the United States, which is, as condemnations go, not one.

[Joe Getty]

But Qatar is a friend of the United States, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah. So you do have to be a little bit careful. And the message being sent. You know what, there's, there's this article I read in the Wall Street Journal about this, and you have to read between virtually every single line. But the message that's actually being sent from the United States is, look, this isn't gonna happen a lot, but it happened this once. Okay. Okay. Anyway, the ambassador from Israel to the United States was on Special Report with Brett Baer last night in a very, very frank and revealing interview. I thought it was so interesting and so clear as to Israel's intentions. We'll start with the first clip, Michael, and go, go from there.

[Israeli Ambassador]

We don't have an issue with the people of Gaza. We don't have an issue with the people of Qatar. We have an issue with the people leading Hamas. And our Prime Minister has made it very clear from October 7, those who implemented the slaughter of our citizens will pay the price, the ultimate price.

[Jack Armstrong]

And no matter where they are, and we don't care anymore. Next clip.

[Israeli Ambassador]

It's important to remember September 1972. Prime Minister Golda Meir at the time after the Munich massacre, when Palestinian terrorists slaughtered our 11 sportsmen in Munich, she gave an order that everybody responsible for that murder, for that slaughter, would pay the price. And it was carried out by our Mossad. And 13 of those terrorists were eliminated. Hamas terrorists are on notice. They are going to be eliminated.

[Jack Armstrong]

Then. This was a revealing quote as well.

[Joe Getty]

Did you get the targets you were seeking?

[Israeli Ambassador]

If we didn't get them this time, we'll get them the next time.

[Jack Armstrong]

There you go. And it's not clear exactly who they got and who they didn't get among the senior leadership. They definitely got a couple of. A handful of second level guys, maybe. Whether it was the, the big daddies or not, I don't know. But then this is the clip where he restates what I've believed for a long time is Israel's current point of view.

[Israeli Ambassador]

Israel, under Prime Minister Netanyahu is changing the face of the Middle East. We have degraded Hezbollah, we've degraded Hamas, Houthis, and Iran. The head of the snake that's leading these proxies in an effort to destroy Israel. When we defeat these proxies of Iran will defeat Islamic extremism. And actually that will benefit our neighbors in the region who are moderate and want to live in a state of peace with us. So right now we may be subject to a little bit of criticism. They'll get over it. And Israel is being changed for the better. The region is being changed for the better as we remove these enemies of peace and these enemies of Western civilization from their ability to, to implement terrorism.

[Joe Getty]

I thought him saying they'll get over it was a little more flippant than he needed to be.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it was refreshing in that it was stating the case plainly because that's. Yeah, I could have thought of two or three ways for him to say that more. Well, what's the word? Diplomatically, since he is a diplomat, but that's exactly right. So, yeah, they'll, they'll rent and rave and pound the table and condemn this and all, but we'll be meeting with them next week.

[Joe Getty]

So. Actually, I thought it was an interesting question Brett Baer asked him. So critics would say Hamas assigns a couple of people to engage in peace talks and you don't like the way they're going and so you obliterate them. I mean, so how are you ever going to get any peace talks going? I mean, that's the pushback on this whole thing, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And he also mentioned Qatari sovereignty in the next clip. This is worth hearing. Mr.

[Joe Getty]

Ambassador, what about the charge that this is a violation of the sovereignty of the state of Qatar and that anybody who is negotiating with you potentially is a target if they are in the process of negotiation and don't agree to the terms at that moment.

[Israeli Ambassador]

Come on, Brit.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm just saying what they're saying.

[Israeli Ambassador]

Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, this has been going on for months and months and months. In the meantime, our hostages are being starved in the tunnels of Hamas in Gaza. They can end this now, this moment. They can lay down their weapons like Arafat did in Lebanon in 1982 and leave and this can be over. We want this war to be over. We want to implement a cease fire in which everybody will benefit. But we're not going to live with jihadis on our border anymore. That's over. These people are murderous thugs, thugs. Imagine just Ms. 13 taking over a neighborhood here in the United States and then negotiating with them after they hold hostages in tunnels. This is something that is absolutely unacceptable in human terms, in simple, human, moral terms. This is going to be over when Hamas is eliminated and they're put on notice. The prime minister put them on notice. Wherever they are, whenever they are, they are on notice. They are not going to survive what they did on October 7, 2023.

[Jack Armstrong]

We are not going to live with jihadis on our border anymore. That's over.

[Joe Getty]

So Jim Garrity, writing for National Review, this is a bad time for Hamas leaders to attempt the taco trade. Trump does not always chicken out. He writes credit where credit is due. Twice earlier this year, President Trump said the Hamas would have hell to pay if they didn't release the remaining hostages with consequences that were less than fully hellish every time. But Sunday, Trump said on Truth Social, the Israelis have accepted my terms. It is time for Hamas to accept as well. I have warned Hamas about the consequences of not accepting. This is my last warning. There will not be another one. Apparently Trump meant it this time. After months where Hamas negotiatings position kept shifting all around, the Hamas negotiators are now, well, they're now all over the map themselves.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, speaking of flipping. Yes, well, and I'm sure because all this stuff happens through back channels, I'm sure the reply to Trump was, yeah, yeah, we're willing to have another round of talks. That's fine. And he knew. Okay, well, so they're, they're bull lesson again.

[Joe Getty]

But, but Garrity is saying a national review and you seem to be hinting that Trump had some knowledge, some approval on this as opposed to what he's saying out loud is I didn't know about it until right before it happened and I don't like it. I don't like it one bit.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, the strategic ignorance, I think went something like this. Trump and Netanyahu are talking. Netanyahu says, look, they're not serious about negotiating. We're going to get their leaders because they're going to get together soon and we're going to take them out. Trump said, I don't want to hear the specifics. Don't tell me, but give me one more chance to see what their intentions are. He did. Their intentions were to string everybody along a little bit further as they have now for years. And he said they're not going to seriously negotiate to Netanyahu.

[Joe Getty]

They clearly indicated their lack of seriousness when they took credit for that bus attack two days ago and encouraged it and hoped there were more.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, frankly, I think anybody who believed that Hamas would ever negotiate in good faith is a fool. I appreciate wanting to try and try and try to have less killing and end the war sooner. But as Sherman made clear to the city fathers of Atlanta back in, what was it, 1864, 1865, he said, I've received your letter and I appreciate it. The quickest way to end this war and the suffering is to win it. So I'm gonna win it and it's gonna suck bad, but then it'll be over.

[Joe Getty]

So pretty big developments in both the Israel Hamas war, kind of an Israel Iran war, and the Ukraine Russia war that we'll be keeping our eye on. If you miss a segment of our show, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Ted Cruz]

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Nationwide, we have millions of listeners.

[Ted Cruz]

Every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, we break down the news and bring you behind the scenes inside the White House, inside the Senate, inside the United States Supreme Court.

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And we cover the stories that you're not getting anywhere else.

[Ted Cruz]

We arm you with the facts to be able to know and advocate for the truth with your friends and family.

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[Jack Armstrong]

An I heart podcast.