Yo Dragon! What's Up?!

Summary

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Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: Yo Dragon! What's Up?!
Date: March 23, 2026

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Overview

In this episode, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty tackle several of the day’s most contentious political and cultural issues with their trademark blend of skepticism, sarcasm, and sharp wit. Conversation centers on the ongoing debate about gender policy in schools and sports, the looming possibility of US Marines landing on islands in the Strait of Hormuz amidst escalating Persian Gulf tensions, media bias reflecting political legacies, and even a philosophical detour into simulation theory—all while highlighting memorable clips, audience engagement, and their unique takes on current events.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Gender Policy, Sports, and Parental Rights

(Starts ~03:12)

• California Interscholastic Federation (CIF) Protest:
  Advocates—including former school board members, teachers, parents, and student athletes—demand a return to sex-based categories in California high school sports.

  • Janet Barbieri (former school board):

    "It is not possible to have a sex-based law that denies the very idea of sex." (05:33)

  • Jean Pagnon (school board president):

    "California's female athletes are being systematically erased. What matters is that they are boys. And the way we identify boys is obvious. They have a penis at birth. They have reproductive organs that produce small mobile gametes. That is sperm. That is science. That is the truth. There is no being born in the wrong body." (~05:50)

• Parental Rights & School Secrecy:
  The hosts recount a case in Maine where a school gave a 13-year-old a chest binder and used different pronouns without parental knowledge. Legal action, with backing from the Goldwater Institute, could set precedent on parents' rights in such scenarios.

  • Joe Getty:

    "The advertised guidelines might as well be written in smoke on water." (13:28)

  • Joe Getty:

    "These people... lie. They just flat lie... They do not talk bargain. Teach in good faith. Not even close. It's gender bending madness." (13:57)

• Counterarguments and Testimony:
  The podcast played a clip from a California State University assistant professor expressing frustration at having to justify trans inclusion.

  • Assistant Professor:

    "And the idea that I have to get up here and say that trans women are women and that's what I have to use my time to do is absurd... This lesbian has had plenty of girlfriends with penises." (08:06–08:18, replayed at 10:02-10:15)

• Hosts React:
  The hosts push back, expressing disbelief and criticism of gender-identity based policy, particularly in relation to women and girls’ spaces and opportunities.

  • Joe Getty:

    "How blank and crazy is she? It's an insult..." (08:30)
    "You're sick. And so are they." (11:21)

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2. Simulation Theory and Philosophy

(18:45–21:20)

• Elon Musk's Simulation Question:
  The hosts reference Elon’s dinner with a top physicist and computer scientist, recounting their responses on whether we live in a simulation ("0%" vs "100%").

  • Joe Getty explains simulation theory for the uninitiated:

    "Everything you see and hear and experience has been simulated for you by our overlords. It's not what it seems to be at all. It's all a fake." (20:03)

  • Jack jokes:

    "If life is a simulation video game, the graphics are amazing, but a lot of the characters suck." (20:49)

• Cultural Impact:
  The “Matrix” reference segues into broader commentary about cultural references to reality and waking up to “actual” reality.

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3. Media Bias and Political Legacies

(21:28–22:48)

• Observations on Obituaries:
  The hosts highlight how Variety covered Chuck Norris’s death by focusing on his politics rather than his entertainment legacy, contrasting this with coverage of Rob Reiner.
  • Joe Getty:

    "Chuck Norris was a great action star, but politics may have overshadowed his legacy. No mention of politics in the headline with Rob Reiner who might be the most political person in Hollywood." (21:43)

  • Joe Getty:

    "Politics of good people. He wasn't a radical like Chuck Norris. And that's something... and you wonder why we hate you or don't trust you." (22:38)

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4. Escalating Persian Gulf Tensions: US Marines Poised for Ground Action?

(26:49–36:31)

• Debate on US Strategy in Iranian Waters:
  The conversation explores reports that the Trump administration may soon send Marines to seize Karg island, a potential echo of WWII island invasions.

  • Joe Getty quotes an analysis:

    "President Trump must put boots on the ground to open the Strait of Hormuz and demonstrate the unquestionable supremacy of American power. If he fails, his legacy will be one of American collapse. And if he succeeds, he’ll prepare the US for an intense period of competition over the next decade." (27:32)

• Risks & Costs of Ground Assault:
  Comparing possibilities with Iwo Jima's bloody history, they consider whether the country is prepared for casualties in a high-stakes operation.

  • Joe Getty:

    "Throwing around at Iwo Jima like that is some pretty hardcore talk. We lost thousands of guys taking Iwo Jima. What if we lost 90 marines taking Karg Island? How would the country react?" (30:18)

• Host Opinions on US Strategy:
  The hosts express skepticism about partial military measures and stress that decisive action sends the only effective message.

  • Joe Getty:

    "You can't do it halfway and then say, well, the one thing we're not going to do is have any guys with rifles on their shoulders get involved." (31:37)

  • Joe Getty:

    "You can't be going to war as a grown up. You shouldn't be going to war without thinking there's a possibility you're going to lose 100 guys on a war with a country of 90 million people." (35:32)

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5. Self-Defense and Canadian Politics

(42:14–45:25)

• Doug Ford Praises Homeowner's Self-Defense:
  Doug Ford, Ontario’s premier (and the "sane" Ford brother), is praised for his blunt support of a homeowner who shot an intruder, despite Canada's strict gun laws.

  • Doug Ford (paraphrased):

    "Congratulations. Yeah, I'm glad you shot the guy. Teach us the rest of these robbers and I encourage everyone out there that's a legal gun owner. Someone’s going to come in and try to kill you and kill your family member... these guys, they need to be shot as far as I'm concerned." (43:14)

  • Joe Getty:

    "Why don't more people say that out loud? I think that's where the majority of people are." (43:46)
    "Say that stuff out loud. I'm not bloodthirsty. I don't want to hurt anybody. You threaten my family, you're getting a bullet." (44:29)

• Tough-on-Crime Messaging:
  The hosts connect Ford’s statements to similar rhetoric from US sheriffs and argue it serves as an effective deterrence.

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6. Other Notable Topics and Moments

• Sports Highlight:
  The climactic basketball moment from St. John's is recounted, with a player calling his own shot in memorable “Hoosiers” fashion. (41:17–41:55)

• Canadian Pop Culture List:
  An impromptu ranking of favorite Canadians, with Doug Ford overtaking icons like Gordie Howe, Wayne Gretzky, John Candy, and Martin Short. (42:14–44:21)

• End-of-Show Banter:
  The hosts nominate the "plenty of girlfriends with penises" sound bite for "Clip of the Year," reflecting their irreverent style. (47:52–48:04)

  • Joe Getty:

    "I have plenty of girlfriends with penises. I was nominating it for the clip of the year." (47:52)

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Notable Quotes

• "It is not possible to have a sex-based law that denies the very idea of sex." – Janet Barbieri (05:33)
• "This lesbian has had plenty of girlfriends with penises." – CSU Assistant Professor (08:18, 10:15, 11:16)
• "The graphics are amazing, but a lot of the characters suck." – Jack Armstrong (20:49)
• "You threaten my family, you’re getting a bullet." – Joe Getty (44:29)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Gender Policy & School Sports: 03:12–14:26
• Simulation Theory: 18:45–21:20
• Media Bias (Obituaries): 21:28–22:48
• US-Iranian Tensions & Military Options: 26:49–36:31
• Canadian Self-Defense & Doug Ford: 42:14–45:25
• End-of-Show Banter / Final Thoughts: 46:29–48:04

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Tone and Style

The Armstrong & Getty Show employs a conversational, often sarcastic and irreverent tone, with pointed skepticism towards mainstream narratives and a tendency toward dark humor. The hosts move fluidly between earnest discussion, mockery of perceived absurdity, and self-aware asides, making the episode both provocative and entertaining for listeners.

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Conclusion

This episode exemplifies Armstrong & Getty's willingness to tackle hot-button issues head-on, offering a mix of cultural critique, skepticism, humor, and a clear point of view. Whether breaking down complex topics like the intersection of gender policy and parental rights, or riffing on simulation theory and Canadian politics, the show remains accessible, frank, and consistently engaging for its audience.

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[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. And now he's Armstrong and Getty.

So we're sending quite a few marines and stuff, sailors and all the gear you need to like if you're gonna do a little like land invasion to try to take that island there in the straight of Hormuz and maybe clear out the straight of Hormuz. We might have a full on marines with guns taking ground situation here soon. But more on that later this hour.

Yeah, the pattern has certainly been if the forces are moved into your area, I would assume they're going to be used against you. Ask Maduro for his opinion. Anyway, we'll get to that in a few minutes. Right now it's a gender bending madness update.

[Jack Armstrong]

So I kept hearing about this thing

[Joe Getty]

called gender bending madness.

They're loco.

We're in a brave new world. Wow, that intro is really good.

That is good. It's one of our better things.

Yeah. Well done, Hanson. First, I want to pay tribute to some very brave and persuasive people. The fact that they need to be brave is bizarre to me. But advocates for protecting girls sports gathered the other day outside the Sacramento headquarters of the California Interscholastic Federation that runs girls sports essentially in California, before attending the executive committee meeting where they delivered public comments urging the CIF to return to protected sex based categories for California's high school sports. And the group included former school board members, teachers, parents, student athletes. It was organized by Cause Californians United for Sex Based Evidence and Policy and Law, which is a good name and listen to some of this stuff and contemplate, if you will, how truly bizarre it is that it needs to be said. So. Participants told the executive committee that Title 9 was enacted to ensure equal opportunities for female students in education and athletics. Right. And that policies allowing males to compete in female categories due to a claim gender identity undermine those protections, said Janet Barbieri, former California school board member and advocate for girls athletics, quote, it is not possible to have a sex based law that denies the very idea of sex. True. We'll play you the counter argument in a Moment. But there is no counterargument. It is not possible to have a sex based law that denies the very idea of sex. California's female athletes are being systematically erased. What matters is that they are boys. And the way we identify boys is obvious. They have a penis at birth. They have reproductive organs that produce small mobile gametes. That is sperm. That is science. That is the truth. There is no being born in the wrong body. That was Gene Pagnon, board president of the Dry Creek Joint elementary School School District. Way to go, Gene.

I don't know if that's specifically true that there's no such thing as being born in the wrong body, but it's very, very, very rare. It's not like a tenth of the population.

School administrator Jody Buddha said, and I quote, as a mother of a female athlete and a former school administrator, I believe protecting girls sports means honoring the promise of Title nine, fair competition, safety and equal opportunity for every female athlete. Here's Heidi Moore, mother of three Elk Grove and former. I'm sorry. Oh. She is an Elk Grove Unified School District board trustee. Quote, at a board meeting in my district, a mom reported her daughter had been forced to undress in front of three boys. Let me be clear. This is a civil rights issue. Stop being sexist. Protect our girls and stop erasing women.

How do women not come to the rescue on that

boy? We could do. We could get into that. It's complicated. It's complicated.

The whole hierarchy of intersectionality is weird.

Oh, it's crazy. And so many women, partly because of the way women tend to be, have been convinced, browbeaten into. You must go along with this to be a good person. And if you don't, you're being a hateful, bad person and we won't accept you. So go along with this. And a number of women, particularly in blue states, have said yes. Okay, I will. Yes. Yes. That's not a boy. That's a girl. Because he says he's a girl. Here is Michael. It's clip 11. Here's an assistant professor at California State University of. Was it. I can't remember which. CSU San Bernardino, San Bernardo.

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[Joe Getty]

You'd expect more common sense from the Inland Empire, but we're talking about a California professor testifying at that very Title 9 hearing.

[Jack Armstrong]

And the idea that I have to

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get up here and say that trans

[Jack Armstrong]

women are women and that's what I have to use my time to do is absurd.

[Joe Getty]

Shame on you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Shame on all of you.

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And shame on you for using lesbian

[Jack Armstrong]

politics as a front for your transphobia. Because this lesbian has had plenty of girlfriends with penises.

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All right?

[Joe Getty]

How blank and crazy is she? It's an insult. You have to get up and claim, hilariously, that quote unquote, trans women are women. Yeah. Hot dogs are dogs.

[Jack Armstrong]

And how.

[Joe Getty]

How insane are the people that roared

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with applause to that comment.

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Yeah, this lesbian has lots of female girlfriends with penises.

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Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Yes. No, these. Those are men. You see, Professor Jesse O. Quinn. Men. And it's easy to tell. I can repeat what I read earlier, if you like, from the nice lady who testified. How nuts are these people?

I gotta. I can inject this in here. I got this text from a friend of mine the other day. Went to get my first massage over the weekend. She wrote, there was a dude with boobs at the front desk. He walked me back to the ladies locker room and came in with me and. And lingered, tidying up right next to the locker that he had assigned me. I had to wait several minutes to get undressed for the man to leave the room. This was insane.

Jack, that was a woman.

There were a couple of guys who had an appointment at the same time I did. The desk dude walked us as a group to the men's locker room first and then just dropped off the men. Didn't hold the door or anything. Then he walked me, the lone woman, to the ladies locker room and held the door and then entered with me.

Good lord,

Michael.

Play. That's wild. Play 11 again.

[Jack Armstrong]

And the idea that I have to

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get up here and say that trans

[Jack Armstrong]

women are women, and that's what I have to use my time to do is absurd.

[Joe Getty]

Shame on you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Shame on all of you.

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And shame on you for using lesbian

[Jack Armstrong]

politics as a front for your transphobia, because this lesbian has had plenty of girlfriends with penises.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, what does that mean? What is using lesbian politics as a front for your transphobia?

Oh, there are a lot of gay people who believe, quite correctly, that to tell a butch woman, for instance, or a effeminate guy, that they're in the wrong body and they need powerful chemicals and surgery to fix them is sick.

It is.

It is sick. Yeah. And somebody probably made some sort of

reference after the gay community had to fight for so long to be able to be an effeminate dude or a butch chick.

Right.

And just, you know, be that that's what I am.

Except me. Okay, I will.

Then the trans world came along and told you you're wrong for that.

Right. We got to carve you up or feed you powerful chemicals to make You Right again. And we're the. The quote unquote transphobes.

Okay, this, this lesbian has lots of girlfriends with penises. Lots.

Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Good for you. You're sick. And so are they. This is a bit of good news. Number one, the world is waking up and realizing, you know, not only is that clearly insane, I should have said it was insane from the beginning and I'm sorry I went around or I'm sorry that I went along with it. And you should be sorry. Anyway, here's a little bit of good news. A case involving a main student given a chest binder at school may be headed to the Supreme Court and our friends at the Goldwater Institute, including Tim Sandifer. Right in the middle of this, While cleaning her 13 year old daughter's room in 2022, Amber Levine found a chest binder. A social worker at the 8th Graders 8th Graders School in Maine had given the child the device which, if you don't know, flattens breasts to facilitate a masculine appearance. Unknown to mom at school, her daughter was using masculine pronouns. And the Goldwater Institute and 18 states so far have joined an amicus brief supporting her petition. Asked the Supreme Court to hear a challenge to the supposed policy of this community school board. That policy is fictitious. And here's. This is important. It almost seems like a tangent, but it's not. It's really important. The board's written guidelines for, quote, addressing the needs of transgender students requires parental involvement. So the school board says there's no constitutional violation here, but mom is arguing that the actual policy is to withhold information from parents. So these people, like so many neo Marxists and people who have been swayed by them, they lie. They just flat lie. Even after Levine had objected to the school's sneakiness, no school employee was disciplined. And the school board unanimously voted to award a new contract to the social worker who taught Levine's daughter how to use the binder and who told her he would not inform her mother. So the advertised guidelines, as they write, might as well be written in smoke on water. Last year, in a case from hyper progressive Montgomery County, Maryland, Supreme Court held that parental rights can be violated by a school's policy about what and how children are taught. The court cited the First Amendment guarantee of free exercise of religion, upheld the right of parents to withdraw students, elementary school students, from your LBGTQ RBF stuff. See that? That's the most important part, though, that the school board departed from its written policy, lied about it, wouldn't, wouldn't discipline the staffer. Who violated it and are just doubling down. And these people are dishonest. Keep that in mind. They do not talk bargain. Teach in good faith. Not even close. It's gender bending madness.

Are we sending a bunch of Marines to take Karg island like it's Iwo Jima, to quote Lindsey Graham. Maybe so among other things, we're gonna talk about this hour. Stay tuned.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

I think people more and more think,

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Well, they're more effective at achieving an outcome. But again, if this leads to a place where people can't put food on the table because you don't have a way to make make ends meet, that's an outcome. That's an anti human future. If everybody saw that, if everybody saw that, we would have to say, we got to put our hand on the steering wheel and choose something else. The world we're heading towards is good for a handful of soon to be trillionaires. It's not good for regular people. And I think there needs to be something. The human movement basically, of humanity fighting back against the encroachment of technology. We saw it with social media. When you have India, Australia, Spain, France ban social media for kids under 16. That's the human movement.

Yeah, man. It all breaks down if you just say, but what about China?

Right.

How are you going to stop China from doing it?

There's never been an ability we have as a species that hasn't been used, you know, if it's useful. Yeah, I just, I don't think that's realistic. I agree with them in spirit, but what does that mean?

Yeah, so here's something. Maybe I also don't know what it means and maybe you can explain to me, do you know what it means when people say, are we living in a simulation? Yeah, I don't know that I do, but maybe you can explain that here in a second. So Elon Musk tweeted this out over the weekend and that also Reminds me, somebody did a thing online of like, what's the most important tweet of all time? I think it was based on some of the things Trump had said. And somebody had one to Elon. It was a tweet of. Elon tweeted something about Twitter, about how great it is, but it's flawed. And somebody tweeted at Elon, you should buy it. And he said, how much do they want for it? That might be the most important tweet of all time. Anyway, Elon tweeted this out over the weekend. He said, I had dinner once with a top physicist and a top computer scientist and asked what they thought the probability was that we are living in a simulation or we are in a simulation. They answered simultaneously, 0% and 100%, respectively. The physicists said 0% chance. The computer scientists said, 100%. We're living in a simulation. What does that mean? I hear people. My son says it every now and then. What does that mean, we're living in a simulation?

Well, straight out of movies like the Matrix, where everything. You think I've never seen the Matrix? Oh, it's. It's fantastic. Everything you see and hear and experience has been simulated for you by our overlords. It's not what it seems to be at all. It's all. It's all a fake.

And when would this have occurred? Like a long, long time ago or, brr, I don't know, like that it switched from reality to a simulation.

Well, it doesn't matter in effect, Jack, because you could ask your dad, hey, dad, did you grow up in a simulation? But he's part of the simulation, so he would tell you, no, son, and stop asking such silly questions.

This is sort of like the joke that my son really likes. If life is a simulation video game, the graphics are amazing, but a lot of the characters suck.

That's so good. That is. Yeah.

I don't know if I fully understand. If I fully understand it.

And then one. Of course, the Matrix is speaking of cultural references that people use all the time. That's the. The basis of being red pilled or black pilled or whatever it was and waking up to what's actual reality.

And then why do you suppose the computer Expert said it's 100% likely we're living in a simulation?

They're weirdos.

Okay, I thought I'd hit you with this. Chuck Norris died on Friday. This is from Variety magazine. It's the.

The.

The. It's a mostly a website like all their magazines, but it's a website magazine for the entertainment set in Los Angeles.

But what used to call it the bible of show business. Right.

When Rob Reiner died not long ago, the headline was his life and work in photos from all in the family to the Princess Bride and the Bear. When Chuck Norris died, big giant TV star. Chuck Norris was a great action star, but politics may have may overshadow his legacy. No mention of politics in the headline with Rob Reiner who might be the most political person that's ever been in Hollywood. Yeah, but for him it's just his life and work in photos and all the TV shows and movies he was in. For Chuck Norris, politics may have overshadowed his legacy. Do you see? Do you see a difference there? I know they don't think that they do that.

They don't think they're biased. Correct. Yeah. Well, yeah, Rob Reiner was political. But I mean he had the politics that people agree with.

Normal people.

Politics of good people. Yeah. Moral people. He wasn't a radical like Chuck Norris. And that's something.

And you wonder why we hate you or don't trust you.

Oh, I hate him. I have new favorite Canadian. I'll tell you about that next time.

Boy, who wouldn't stick around to hear about Joe's new favorite Canadian.

I'd like to recommend a Canadian to you.

And are we about to have a Marines taking an island situation in Iran?

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. When your schedule sounds like this. Are you kidding me? An oil change is the last thing you have time for. So drive into take five and let our techs change your oil. Check your tires, top off your fluids and have you back on the road pit stop fast. All while you stay in your car. No putting your entire schedule on hold. No upsells, no problem. So you can get back to your to do list or not. Find your nearest [e-mail]. Take five. The stay in your car. 10 minute oil change the next 30

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[Joe Getty]

has totally lost touch with reality. This war is spinning out of control. Prices are spiking for millions of Americans. There's a new war breaking out between Israel and Lebanon. Oil assets of our allies are continuing to be hit in in the region. There's no end in sight.

That is the worst of our 100 senators. Chris Murphy, once you become aware of that name, you'll recognize him regularly. He gets a lot of FaceTime because he says extraordinary things and that's the way our system is currently set up. If you just say really over the top things, you get in a lot of TV shows, you get re tweeted a lot and you raise a lot of money. But, but in addition, that is like the main drum beat on a lot of your mainstream leftish news media that this is clearly a disaster. Spinning out of control was a bad idea from the start. Most of my favorite pundits, who even, you know, lean anti Trump like Ian Bremmer, has had lots of comments about how clearly we needed to take out their missile making operation given the fact that they show over the weekend that they got one that'll go 2500 miles, etc. Etc. But things are in a dicey place. So this is from the Wall Street Journal. This is an opinion piece from a guy I don't know in the Wall Street Journal. The Trump administration finds itself in a larger war than it expected. That's true. Facing a profoundly hard decision, President Trump must put boots on the ground to open the Strait of Hormuz and demonstrate the unquestionable supremacy of American power. If he fails, his legacy will be one of American collapse. And if he succeeds, he'll prepare the US for an intense period of competition over the next decade. I don't know if that's 100% true or not, but if, well, if we can't, we can't leave with the straight of Hormuz closed. That's not an option.

No, I mean that'd be, that would be Biden esque and just, I mean

the beat, there'd be the what it looks like problem. And then the reality of 20% of the oil being shipped around the world is now under control of the Iranians. Can't have that and all the other

commerce because there's a hell of a lot of commerce that goes through there.

And that's why Lindsey Graham, Republican senator from South Carolina is talking about the Marines going in also here. He was on one of the talk shows yesterday.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is this going to, though, take Carg Island? Is it going to involve US troops on the ground?

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something from the Atlantic does an assessment on that. They say U.S. troops may well take Cargill, and we believe their ability to do so, but only to endure ballistic missile strikes, drone attacks, petrochemical smoke, all without a reliable means of obtaining logistical support.

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They talk about how far away they would be from.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sort of tired of all this armchair quarterback and this has been amazing military operation, God bless the fallen, but it's a difference. Troops on the ground. I trust the Marines, not that guy. I trust dod. We got two Marine Expeditionary Units sailing to this island. We did Iwo Jima. We can do this. The Marines. My money is always on the Marines. I don't know if you take the island or you blockade the island, but I know this. The day we control that island, this regime, this terrorist regime has been weakened. It will die on a vine.

Throwing around at Iwo Jima like that is some pretty hardcore talk. We lost thousands of guys taking Iwo Jima. Is this. What if we lost 90 marines taking carg Island? How would, how would the country react

to that in the modern day? Very badly. I think that actually brings up. Thought I had when you're introducing the topic, which was if the message we send is that, look, even in a cause this big and important, it's worth. Maybe we could replay Mark Ruta, the head of NATO, saying, look, this had to happen, had to happen. So even in a cause this big and righteous, the Americans aren't willing to put guys in. They just bomb you, then leave.

Right.

That would be a terrible message to send. Even Trump. And look, I'm no, you know, gung ho, war hawk type guy. I get, you know, those are real people who get hurt or die and, you know that easy to be an armchair patriot, blah, blah, blah. All that having been said.

Chicken Hawk, they called them.

Right? Yeah. You can't, you can't do it halfway and then say, well, the one thing we're not going to do is have any guys with rifles on their shoulders get involved. So I guess we're done here. That would just be a miserable message to Sen.

I can't find the quote I just came across somewhere on Twitter from whoever runs the UAE saying we can't have any more ceasefires. We need to finish this now that it has started. Yeah, the, the Gulf countries are on board with finishing this off. Is anybody going to have any blood or treasure involved other than the United States and Israel, though? Because so far it's just that you got all the European nations and Japan that signed on to that letter on Friday about helping open the Strait of Hormuz. But the language was something like, you know, in an appropriate way or something like that, whatever that means. In what appropriate way is Europe and Japan going to help us open that thing up?

Yeah, you know, it's funny, I had the. I sometimes I hate the way this browser works. I had the casualties on Iwo Jima and they were enormous, as you indicated

in Israel disappeared. I'm reading from David Ignatius Washington Post column today. In Israel, Trump's online threats have raised expectations that a new phase of the war could soon get underway with the arrival of additional U.S. firepower. A contingent of 4,500 U.S. sailors and marines is heading to the Middle east, including an infantry battalion landing team backed by helicopters, F35 fighter jets and armored landing vehicles. He told us about that last week. When you, when you, when you have ground troops, you have all this stuff that goes with it. The Pentagon also sped up the deployment of a similar unit, the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit from San Diego, defense officials said last week. Those Marines aren't coming for decoration, said an Israeli official, one of several people who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive military and intelligence issues. The new US Deployment signals a plan to take the island and the strait, the Israeli official said, referring to Carg Island. Doing so could enable the United States and Israel to starve Tehran of oil revenue and provide a political off ramp for the president, who needs to show that the strait is open, according to the Israeli official. But that. That would do it. You take Carg island and the straight. Okay, now Iran's not making any money off of it. They got no leverage now what?

Right.

But we might lose a chunk of guys doing that.

For the record, 26,000 U.S. casualties on Iwo Jima, including 6,800 dead. That's a hell of a lot of guys, you know. It's a grim thought, but a true one. Warrior Foundation Freedom Station might be seeing more new business soon of the wounded,

but depending on how you ask the question, a majority of Americans, though, are against this war. That's without quite a few casualties.

Although that's your. I never use this expression. I hear it all the time among the intelligentsia. I'm about to use it for the first time, Jack, depending how you ask, the question is doing a lot of work in that sentence. Yeah, it's I've seen, in fact, we talked about it on the air. Questions that are worded that include to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon and a couple of other things, then it's overwhelmingly positive. So, boy, it's hard to get a sense, particularly when it's mostly media organizations doing the polling and they are congenitally dishonest.

And everything pulls better if you take Trump's name out of it.

Oh, that too.

If you say should the United States as opposed to do you support Donald Trump's Blah, blah, blah.

Right, right.

But you can't be going to war as a grown up. You shouldn't be going to war without thinking there's a possibility you're going to lose 100 guys on a war with a country of 90 million people. You win that war, I think you would consider, you know, in the overall arc of history, that incredible success, given

the incredibly high stakes, which again, our dishonest media always deny, or you're just pieces of crap like Senator Chris Murphy, who we played earlier, you would never even concede that point, even though it's utterly undeniable. I mean, if Ian Bremmer is saying, no, Trump's right about this one, it's cuz he's right about this one.

Yeah, they had, they had, they were lying about their missile program, the rocket program. They shot one over the weekend that went 2500 miles or had the capacity go to 2500 miles. They'd been claiming they didn't have anything close to that because they lie about that sort of stuff.

And a lot of them are actual religious fanatics.

And you're gonna let them have a nuclear weapon rather than have gas go up a dollar and a half a gallon for a while? Seems like a crazy bet. I'm just, I'm just watching up on TV a young Chuck Norris fighting Bruce. Bruce Lee.

Oh, that was his claim to fame. And Enter the Dragon or Exit the dragon or hey, how about that dragon? I can't remember what the name of the movie was.

Yo, dragon, what's up?

How to train your dragon. No, that was totally different.

A pre beard Chuck Norris.

Yes, the young karate expert, but shirtless nonetheless.

Oh, ripped he get his foot way up high. I can't get my foot that high.

Age.

It's a. I'd have to be in a motorcycle wreck or something to get my foot up.

Oh yeah, my foot goes up that high. There's been surgeries or there's about to be a surgery.

Something's gone wrong. We will finish strong next Armstrong and

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[David Eagleman]

This is David Eagleman from the Inner Cosmos podcast. As a neuroscientist, I think a lot about how our brains shape our experience of reality and how easily we get pulled into mental habits that we don't even notice. This plays out every day in how we respond to stress and information overload and the constant demands of our attention. That's why I use the Waking up app from Sam Harris. It brings together meditation and neuroscience and philosophy to help you see what your mind is doing in real time. We can't escape our thoughts, but we can understand them to respond with more patience and clarity. The practices in the app are easy to fit into a busy routine, and they support a steadier, healthier mind. If you're ready to train the mind that's behind everything you do, you can unlock waking UP free for 30 [e-mail]

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[Joe Getty]

Inbound comes to Darling. 3 seconds, 2 seconds. Darling on the drive to the rim. Lamp is good. Layup is good. St. John's wins it. 67, 65. The St. John's red storm storm into the sweet 65.

Things about that St. John's gets way too much attention because they're a school in the New York area and so everybody acts like everybody in the country. But here's that play. That kid, he hadn't scored a basket the entire game. He's one of the stars of the team. And he told the coach, they got, you know, two seconds left to try to win the game. He tells the coach, run this play. I'm going to make the basket. It's like straight out of Hoosiers.

Wow. Wow. He's got it.

Yeah, yeah.

Whatever it is, he's got it. Well, Jack, you've got it. Can I have a second take of that? Michael, do we have time? You've got to have it. To become my favorite Canadian. It was Gordie Howe for a long time and Wayne Gretzky. Then John Candy.

Wow. Michael J. Fox made an appearance.

He was definitely up there among Canadians. Yes. And then obviously it was the guys in rush for many, many years. But now it is Doug Ford, the Premier of Ontario, who has had words with our POTUS in the past because he's a somewhat Trumpian character. Remember Doug Ford's late brother?

Yeah. He was.

Was he the mayor of Toronto?

He was so kooky hard, drinking, coke, snorting cuckoo bird.

This is like the sane brother, but he's also a tough guy. So there's a. Now keep in mind Canada, very strong gun laws. Very woke in a lot of ways. Way too woke. Disturbingly woke. And we'll talk about that maybe tomorrow. But there's a home invasion of this couple's home. Armed robbers busted in and, and the homeowner shot one of the guys dead. And here. And, and of course the lefty media is up in arms. Here's what Doug Ford said.

Congratulations. Yeah, I'm glad you shot the guy. Teach us the rest of these robbers and I encourage everyone out there that's a legal gun owner. Someone's going to come in and try to kill you and kill your family member. It was just last week, Jamie, one guy got shot because he was trying to protect his kids. Well, you know these guys, they need to be shot as far as I'm concerned.

Wow. Oh, we didn't have the key phrase. The key phrase was he said I wish more. He should have shot him a couple more times as far as I'm concerned.

Why don't more people say that out loud? I think that's where the majority of people are.

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[Joe Getty]

I don't know why more politicians don't have the guts to say that out loud.

Hey, you don't want to get shot. Don't break in people's houses. Ends of the end of discussion.

No kidding. And that's how he pushed Martin Short off the list.

Neil Young, he was a condenser there for a minute.

Other, other high ranking Canadians that I can't think of racking my Celine deal now.

It's not going to be on my list of Canadian best Canadians.

The band Chilliwack, they're Canadian.

You're too obscure, Hanson. Way too obscure. Yeah, Chilliwack. Nobody knows. Jeez. My second favorite Canadian. Let me think for a minute. No. Good for Doug Ford. I agree with you completely. Say that stuff out loud. I'm not bloodthirsty. I don't want to hurt anybody. You threaten my family, you're getting a bullet.

I hope I never have to in my life. Really, really hope I never have to. But if somebody breaks in my house and I'm feeling threatened, I'm going to shoot them.

Yeah. Who's that tough talking sheriff in, in Florida who had his moment No, I can picture the guy, but I can't think of his name. That might be it. Grady Judd, I think. Yeah. You're. Oh, my God. Good poem.

Why do you know that?

I don't know. He's Michelangelo. National treasure. Anyway, where was it? Oh, yeah. As. As he said, we don't have that stuff around here because you break into a home in my county, you'll get shot.

I love that. I'll bet that works, too, as a deterrent.

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I thought we were gonna have one hell of a day today with that deadline looming that Trump laid out there for 48 hours of opening the Strait of Hormuz, which Iran was not going to do. And then I thought we were going to say, holy crap, what does this look like? But Trump gave him five more days. Says negotiations are going well. I'm sure we'll have a lot of news on that by tomorrow. To what extent? That negotiation is real.

Unlike some of the limp wrists who've occupied the Oval Office in recent years, Trump is absolutely willing to be the one to escalate, which you need to be. You must be that occasionally.

But I'm glad that there were other

cards they're thinking about playing. And let's see. Is there another maneuver that has lower costs that gets us to the same place? That's good, I think. Hey, kids, it's that time again with Armstrong and Getty.

Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew. Wouldn't that be delightful? Hey, Michelangelo, lead us off.

Final thought. A lot of funny Canadians.

John Candy, Martin Short. And wasn't Norm MacDonald, was he Canadian?

Yep.

Yeah. Canada comes. Company comes from Canada. Second City TV crew. Yeah. Fabulous Poops Creek. Katie Green, our esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie, since you guys mentioned Sheriff Grady Judd, my favorite clip of him. He's in a press conference. They just busted a drug dealer and he's wearing this big chain. He goes, I got their drip. Oh, wow. That's awesome show business. Jack, a final thought for us.

Spent the weekend sick. Me and one of my kids. I'm not a fan. Not a fan of the. Being sick really takes the fun out of life.

Not a lot upside.

Sure makes you happy for when you're not sick.

Did you figure out what you had? There's all sorts of stuff kicking around.

Those damn things going around. Yeah. Bird flu could be cool. Yeah.

My final thought. It's funny, it just flit it out of my head. I was thinking about something else. What was I gonna say it had something to do with. Well, I'll just go with if you don't subscribe to our podcast, Armstrong and Getty on Demand. Do it wherever you like to get podcasts it automatically downloads. You'll never miss a A segment. Listen when convenient.

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Oh no, I remember. It was going to be I have plenty of girlfriends with penises. I was nominating it for the clip of the year. Wow. You didn't hear that. Grab the podcast we talked about at this hour. Armstrong and Giddy on Demand.

I think the clip of Joe saying it might have to make the list too.

We'll see you tomorrow.

God bless America.

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