You Can't Have A Name Like "Hecox" As A Woman With A Penis

Summary

Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: "You Can't Have A Name Like 'Hecox' As A Woman With A Penis"

Date: January 13, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty
Source: iHeartPodcasts

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Overview

This episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand covers a wide array of prominent current events, including rising tensions between the United States and Iran, cultural and media inconsistencies regarding protest movements, the Supreme Court’s consideration of trans athletes in sports, controversies surrounding AI-generated deepfakes, and the pursuit of legal and social clarity on gender and identity. The hosts merge sharp political commentary with trademark irreverence, blending serious analysis with moments of biting satire.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. US-Iran Tensions and Prospects of Military Action

(00:27–11:04)

• Summary of Situation:

  • The US administration under President Donald Trump is evaluating possible military action against Iran amid escalating protests and government crackdowns. Negotiations are being discussed but may be overtaken by events.
  • Mark Halperin predicts US "kinetic action" within 72 hours.
  • Notable Quote:
    • “When you attack a country like that, you’re going to war with it, aren’t you? Now, if they decide not to fight back again, it ain’t much of a war.” – Jack Armstrong (03:44)

• Iranians Killed in Protests:

  • Discrepancy noted between CBS’s reported death toll (640) versus opposition outlets (12,000+).
  • Notable Quote:
    • “According to the editorial board of the Iran International… At least 12,000 people have been killed so far by security forces, the largest massacre in contemporary Iranian history.” – Jack Armstrong (01:50)

• Debate on Appropriate US Response:

  • Discussion over hardline military response vs. diplomatic engagement, referencing J.D. Vance’s caution.
  • Joe advocates for cyberattacks: “I love the cyber idea. Interfere with their ability to communicate and coordinate.” (04:05)
  • Both hosts are deeply skeptical about Iran’s willingness to negotiate in good faith.
  • Analogy drawn with Bernie Madoff: “It’s like going back to Bernie Madoff and saying, all right, you got one more chance. I’ll invest with you again.” – Joe Getty (06:15)

• Targeting the Ayatollah:

  • Joking speculation about the possibility and wisdom of assassinating or removing Iran’s Supreme Leader.
  • “You might have a guy – you know, his chef might be working for the CIA.” – Jack Armstrong (04:28)

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2. China’s Support for Iran (or Lack Thereof) and the "Axis of A-Holes"

(08:21–09:46)

• Hosts discuss China's weak support for allies in crisis, such as Venezuela and now Iran—arguing that authoritarian “axes” provide unreliable loyalty.
• Notable Quote: “You want to talk about the axis of a holes, and if you form an axis with a holes, when things get tough, they’re going to act like a holes.” – Joe Getty (09:19)

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3. Iranian Revolutionary Guard and Speculated Outcomes

(10:15–11:02)

• Analysis of potential regime change, with the Revolutionary Guard possibly taking control:
  • “I think the Revolutionary Guard says, fine, we don’t need a nuclear weapon. We just want to run this country and be rich.” – Jack Armstrong (10:32)
  • “It’s a graft enterprise. They just want to keep the money flowing.” – Joe Getty (10:50)

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4. Double Standards in Western Protest Movements & Media

(13:08–17:27)

• Quoting and discussing Gerard Baker’s Wall Street Journal piece, the hosts highlight Western activists’ inattention to Iranian oppression relative to their zeal over Gaza.

  • Memorable Moment: Why are there no “Queers for Iran” like there are “Queers for Palestine”? – Paraphrasing Baker (15:00)
  • Notable Quote: “Women are getting raped and murdered for showing their hair, and you are just not interested.” – Joe Getty (17:20)

• Armstrong speculates part of this is because activists feel powerless over Iranian issues, or the causes don't align with the dominant neo-Marxist/settler colonial narrative prevalent among protest groups.

• Discussion on virtue-signaling at awards shows—lack of pins and celebrity advocacy for Iranians vs. Palestinians.

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5. Supreme Court and Transgender Athletes in Sports

(19:17–29:39)

• Two key cases are before the Supreme Court regarding whether transgender athletes can compete in girls’ and women’s sports.

  • West Virginia argues that their law is about protecting fairness under Title IX.
  • The hosts mock the notion of token exceptions (e.g., a male so unathletic there is no advantage, so “case by case” competition) as irrational.
    • “The idea that because one male might be able to, well, lose to women negates the idea that we should have men’s and women’s sports. Are you insane?” – Joe Getty (23:18)

• The hosts lampoon the plaintiff’s surname in a prominent case:

  • “You can’t be named Hecox as a woman with a penis and argue in the Supreme Court.” – Jack Armstrong (22:04)
  • “Miss her uterus. Would you like to respond?” (22:42, tongue-in-cheek mocking of names)

• They criticize Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson’s line of questioning in the Supreme Court, arguing she’s making logically weak points.

• Strong emphasis that the biological distinction between male and female is the only relevant standard for sports, dismissing conflations of sex and gender:

  • “To even use the term ‘biological male’ is to concede there’s a different kind of male...” – Joe Getty (25:51)

• Societal and Legal Ramifications:

  • Even if SCOTUS supports states, blue states could continue their own policies until “a different sort of case comes along.” (26:46)
  • “Do you produce sperm? You’re a male. Do you produce an egg? You are a female.” – Joe Getty (28:24)

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6. Tribute to Scott Adams

(12:40–18:51)

• Brief (and conflicting) reports of the death of Scott Adams (creator of Dilbert). Joe offers a heartfelt reflection:
  • “He was absolutely brilliant and wonderful… as a thinker and a cartoonist.” – Joe Getty (13:08)

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7. AI, Deepfakes, and Privacy (Ashley St. Clair Segment)

(31:02–36:33)

• Coverage of Grok (Elon Musk’s AI chatbot) generating unauthorized sexualized deepfakes, notably involving Ashley St. Clair (a former Musk partner). The hosts dismiss the media’s framing as a “custody battle sideshow” and argue technological reality makes deepfakes impossible to regulate.

  • Notable Quotes:
    • “If you’re a female, there will be nudes of you floating around somewhere, guaranteed. It’s just a thing, I guess, in the modern world.” – Jack Armstrong (30:46)
    • “Look, this sort of thing is going to be omnipresent, has nothing to do with you. It’s jackasses doing what jackasses do. Move on with your life.” – Joe Getty (33:57)

• Musk is characterized as trolling international officials with deepfakes (“Elon Musk reposted AI generated images of [UK PM] Keir Starmer in a bikini.” (35:52))

• Hosts reiterate that technological arms race with AI image tools is ongoing and unsolvable via simple bans.

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8. Legal Implications of Supreme Court’s Approach to Gender

(36:33–37:28)

• Clarification: the Supreme Court case at hand neither forces nor forbids states to create bans; it addresses constitutionality under equal protection, not explicit Title IX mandates.
• Likelihood that states’ policies will diverge until further resolved.
• Continued mockery of the surname “Hecox.”

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Notable Quotes by Timestamp

• Protests in Iran: “When you attack a country like that, you’re going to war with it, aren’t you?” – Jack Armstrong (03:44)
• Negotiating with Iran: “It’s like going back to Bernie Madoff and saying, all right, you got one more chance. I’ll invest with you again.” – Joe Getty (06:15)
• Failings of protest culture: “Why don’t we have Queers for Iran, a country whose official attitude towards homosexuality is similar to Hamas’s?” – Jack Armstrong/quoting Gerard Baker (15:00)
• On gender in sports: “The idea that because one male might be able to, well, lose to women negates the idea that we should have men's and women's sports. Are you insane?” – Joe Getty (23:18)
• Name mockery in Supreme Court case: “You can’t be named Hecox as a woman with a penis and argue in the Supreme Court.” – Jack Armstrong (22:04)
• Biological sex definitions: “Do you produce sperm? You’re a male. Do you produce an egg? You are a female. Nothing else is significant, biologically speaking.” – Joe Getty (28:24)
• AI deepfakes realism: “If you’re a female, there will be nudes of you floating around somewhere, guaranteed.” – Jack Armstrong (30:46)
• Deepfakes and social adaptation: “Look, this sort of thing is going to be omnipresent, has nothing to do with you. It’s jackasses doing what jackasses do. Move on with your life.” – Joe Getty (33:57)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• US-Iran Coverage & Military Options: 00:27–11:04
• China’s Fickle Alliances: 08:21–09:46
• Iranian Regime Dynamics: 10:15–11:02
• Gerard Baker/Western Protest Critique: 13:08–17:27
• Supreme Court Trans Athlete Cases: 19:17–29:39
• Scott Adams Tribute: 12:40–18:51
• AI Deepfakes & Privacy Segment: 31:02–36:33

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Tone and Style

The conversation is irreverent and sharply satirical, leaning on sarcasm and blunt assessment of contemporary politics and culture. Hosts frequently pivot between deep dives on policy/legal issues and pop-culture mockery, preserving a fast pace and accessible commentary for their audience.

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Conclusion

This episode captures Armstrong & Getty’s signature skepticism toward prevailing media narratives and activist trends, weaving through national security crises, the complexities of gender politics in law, and the new tech reality of AI-generated images. The hosts emphasize the lack of logical consistency in protest movements, the likely futility of attempts to stop deepfakes, and the socially disruptive confusion sown by radical gender theory, while also providing occasional pauses for homage (Scott Adams) and comic relief (name puns in the Supreme Court).

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Broadcasting.

[Jack Armstrong]

Live from the Abraham Lincoln radio studio.

[Joe Getty]

At the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Joe Getty]

President Donald Trump meets with a group of senior national security advisors to further.

[Jack Armstrong]

Discuss what exactly to do next with this situation with Iran with possible military.

[Joe Getty]

Strikes high on that list of considerations. On the other side of this right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now, Iran saying it remains open to diplomacy but is, quote, prepared for war.

[Joe Getty]

Iran wants to negotiate this.

[Jack Armstrong]

We may meet with them. I mean, a meeting is being set.

[Joe Getty]

Up, but we may have to act.

[Jack Armstrong]

Because of what's happening before the meeting.

[Joe Getty]

But a meeting is being set up. Iran called.

[Jack Armstrong]

They want to negotiate. We may have to act before the meeting happens. Mark Halpern in his newsletter today predicting kinetic action from the United States in Iran in the next 72 hours. I'm looking up at CBS News, happy to see they're leading with this story because I think it's pretty big since the United States might be going to war with a really big country they have up there. Death toll in Iran protest surpasses 640. That's a lower number than almost everybody else is reporting, including open source intelligence we mentioned this last hour. According to the editorial board of the Iran International. No idea what that is and I'm sure they have reasons to make the number as big as possible.

[Joe Getty]

Can, Katie, Katie, can you figure out what that publication is? It certainly sounds like it's an expat publication.

[Jack Armstrong]

At least 12,000 people have been killed so far by security forces and calling it the largest massacre in contemporary Iranian history. Well, if you've got the largest protest in contemporary Iranian history and the government seems to be going all out on trying to quell it, the math adds up to me to have the largest number of people killed.

[Joe Getty]

It'd be difficult to explain if that wasn't the case. Right. Or at least close to being true right now.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's kind of interesting that the way the news report put it, many people believing Trump needs to act. Well, there's many people believe Trump doesn't need to act. A lot of people who voted for Trump, including J.D. vance, would be on that. Wall Street Journal is reporting today the White House is weighing a last ditch Iranian offer to engage in diplomacy as President Trump currently leans toward authorizing fresh military strikes on Iran. U.S. officials say some senior administration aides led By Vice President J.D. vance are urging Trump to use diplomacy as opposed to retaliating with military action. So JD Vance is a Don't get involved militarily kind of guy. Now, the New York Times version of this story is President Trump is exploring options for diplomacy with Iran as he weighs whether to attack the country. And this is the new news. The Pentagon is presenting a wider range of strike options to Trump than has previously been reported. Possible targets include Iran's nuclear program, again, going beyond the U.S. airstrikes that battered it in June, various ballistic missile sites and other things.

[Joe Getty]

Right, Yeah. I protest the phrase getting involved with Iran or going to war with Iran because we have the capability to hit and run if we want. That's not necessarily 100% great long term plan, but we can absolutely do that.

[Jack Armstrong]

When you attack a country like that, you're going to war with it, aren't you? Now, if they decide not to fight back again, it ain't much of a war. I guess it's already over.

[Joe Getty]

Well, no, again, the phrase, the phrase leads you to believe it's an ongoing conflict. I would say strike Iran.

[Jack Armstrong]

The narrower options include a cyber attack or a strike against Iran's domestic security apparatus, which is us.

[Joe Getty]

I love the cyber idea. Interfere with their ability to communicate and coordinate.

[Jack Armstrong]

Any chance we assassinate the Ayatollah? Do you think we would? If we could? Do you think we should? If we could. And then would we.

[Joe Getty]

If we could? I would have to think about that for a long time. Sorry. It's a. It's a tough one. It all has to do with what would happen next.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would guess that you couldn't fly into Venezuela and snatch up the President and get him out alive and put him on a plane. Given all the, you know, heads up that they had that that could happen. But we did. So the fact that the Ayatollah is supposedly in hiding, what does that mean? We might wait. We might have a guy, you know, his chef might be working for the CIA.

[Joe Getty]

Come on. I hate to work your side of the street, but go in there and yank him out by his beard, grab.

[Jack Armstrong]

Him by the beard, have him dangling from a helicopter by the beard and fly him out of there.

[Joe Getty]

Now you've turned bizarre and sick anyway. Yeah, I suppose it could happen. I'm not sure that would be the best thing. I think it'd be better if the Iranian people did it themselves. But I don't know what's next is always the question, though, when you overthrow a regime. And how does what's next take shape and how can we influence that? The idea of negotiating with the Iranian regime right now strikes me as idiotic. I'd like to talk to J.D. vance about that. I mean, what are the chances they're going to. That they're just trying to buy time? 100%. What are the chances they're gonna negotiate in good faith and those agreements will hold over the long term? Zero. Zero percent, Right? Yeah. Please. What are we even talking? I don't know.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't get that kind of politics. I think he's a. I think he's a. What's the term you use? What's the one beyond. Beyond. Restrainer. I think he's a full on.

[Joe Getty]

Isolation.

[Jack Armstrong]

Isolationist. I think he's damn near an isolationist.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that would make him a fool. I. I can't.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you just said there's zero chance they would honor any agreement, so. Yeah, I don't. I don't get it either.

[Joe Getty]

It's like going back to Bernie Madoff and saying, all right, you got one more chance. I'll invest with you again. There's nothing in their history to indicate that they can negotiate in good faith. Nothing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Iran has been the top couple of enemies of the United States for half a century. I think they've killed more soldiers in any country, I'm sure this. Than any enemy we've got on Earth. They've killed more of our people. I got no problem with taking out the top guy on this one.

[Joe Getty]

Well, okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

But I don't think we probably could.

[Joe Getty]

So on a different angle. And this is absolutely fabulous. I'm going to quote Gerard Baker of the Journey. Oh, Katie, do you have that information on the Iran International? Yeah, it looks like it's based out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of London and it's high in the opposition to the Islamic Republic and it's.

[Joe Getty]

Licensed in Europe, so I mean, it's a legit news source.

[Jack Armstrong]

I would guess their number is closer to right than CBS's 640.

[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

What do you think about the prediction that we will there'll be some kinetic action within 72 hours? You think that's likely, right?

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

I do too.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, If I had to bet, I do too. Yeah. So I want to get to the where the hell are the protests angle and there's a fair amount to it. It's more than that. Just simple question. But real quickly in this segment, a really good article by Austin Ramsey about how if China is your buddy, like a bridge over troubled waters, they will get the hell outta town. When Maduro was under stress, China was like, yeah, who, who this don't recognize your number. And now that Iran is struggling, their brave friend and proxy Iran, who they buy a bunch of oil from and all the Ayatollah can't get a call back from the Chinese communists. And everybody was talking about the was it Brink or Flink or zinc or something. Well, no, it's different because it includes North Korea.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, right, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

China, Iran, Sink, maybe like Stuart Sink, the pro golfer.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

But I mean, you want to talk about the axis of a holes and if you form an axis with a holes, when things get tough, they're going to act like a holes. You know why? Because they're a holes. So evidently China's about the worst friend you could possibly, possibly have. And this is good though. More countries need to look at that and think, oh, wow, wait a minute. Xi Jinping came with a hard sell, but the minute things get a little rough, he hits the road. Forget it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Do you think? Because then we're really at war if Iran retaliates the way they're claiming. They say they got their sights on a number of bases. We have something like 30,000 people in the near area. You know, we got people all over the Middle east.

[Joe Getty]

Put them on high alert, fire up the air defenses and let the paper tiger roar all at once. They are weak. Iran is weak.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's hard to imagine him wanting to actually jump ugly with us.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, and if I'm a Revolutionary Guard guy, I'M thinking Namala's on his way out. We're the obvious inheritor because we have the power structure. Maybe we can talk to JD Vance and company. The one thing I ain't gonna do is go to war with the MAR US Marines. No effing way.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's why I want to yank the Ayatollah. I think the Revolutionary Guard takes over. I think they the beard. I think the Revolutionary Guard says, fine, we don't need a nuclear weapon. We just want to run this country and be rich.

[Joe Getty]

Keeping in mind the Revolutionary Guard is also a giant corporation. They own all sorts of companies.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right.

[Joe Getty]

It's a graft enterprise. They just want to keep the money flowing.

[Jack Armstrong]

I doubt they care a lot about the whole Islam thing.

[Joe Getty]

Depends which guy you're talking to. But a lot less than the mullahs.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yep, I was talking to Muhammad. Not Muhammad. Oh. Muhammad.

[Joe Getty]

Oh. Oh. He doesn't give a crap.

[Jack Armstrong]

We got more on all this and a bunch of other stuff on the way. Stay here.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Trump made a pretty definitive strong statement about anti Semites in the Republican Party to the New York Times. Doesn't get much attention because it doesn't work for the whole he's evil thing. Gotta check in on the Supreme Court and their oral arguments around the whole trans athlete thing and a couple interesting things I've just come across. Want to talk about that movie that's getting so much Attention. One battle after another that a lot of y' all are worked up about. A whole bunch of other stuff. So hope you can stay here.

[Joe Getty]

Condolences. Rest in peace. It's too bad one of America's favorite creative artists over the last 50 years has passed away. That would be Scott Adams, who drew Dilbert. He died. Yeah, he. He passed. He's been sick. He, in recent years, become a online thinker provocateur.

[Jack Armstrong]

He was, he was alive as of last night when I was reading some of his stuff.

[Joe Getty]

So, yeah, that. At least that's the word that's out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, okay. That was. There was really these last words.

[Ashley St. Clair]

He.

[Jack Armstrong]

He recorded a podcast, I think, yesterday.

[Joe Getty]

He was a classic example of a guy who, even if I disagreed with him, I'd think, wow, okay. Scott Adams thinks that I disagree with it. I need to dig into why he thinks that and take another look at my ideas. I just loved him as a thinker, I. And as a cartoonist. He was absolutely brilliant and wonderful. Anyway, so I promised you this and I want to give it to you. Gerard Baker with a fabulous, fabulous, righteous piece in the Wall Street Journal. Iran cracks down where the Western protesters and, you know, he describes what's happening, what is so different about the cause that they've been espousing in their demonstrations over Gaza and the cause of millions of innocent co religionists a thousand miles to the east of what's happening in Iran. Those kafiyah wearing, banner waving, slog chanting activists say they were moved to protest, sometimes violently and unlawfully, by the plight of Muslims dispossessed of their lands and livelihoods, starved, beaten and murdered by a savage regime. In Iran, this has been happening for decades. More than 3 million Iranians have been driven from their homeland in the 47 years of the Mullah's rule. People have been forced into prisons, literal ones, not the metaphorical open air prison of Gaza, or driven in exile in foreign lands, their homes and property stolen, their loved ones when punished, and frequently murdered. Over the past two weeks, the clash between good and evil has seemed to be approaching a climax. The brutality has escalated. Where are the student radicals disrupting classes? We all marveled at Queers for Palestine. Why don't we have Queers for Iran, a country whose official attitude toward homosexual homosexuality is similar to Hamas's, where the movie stars and pop icons with their beautifully produced video plea for justice. Why haven't we heard condemnations from Zoran Mandani, the mayor of New York, or Sadiq Khan, the mayor of London, pledging solidarity with The Iranians and demanding the end of the theocratic occupation. Why hasn't dear little Greta Thunberg gotten herself arrested for passionately supporting the Iranian people against their overlords? Where's the International Criminal Court's crack team of lawyers to investigate crimes against humanity and issue indictments against Ali Khamenei, Iran's supreme leader and the country's president, as they did for Benjamin Netanyahu?

[Jack Armstrong]

Now, a lot, all those at the end I definitely agree with. I mean, the fact that the, you know, your international bodies, ooh, when it's Israel in the United States, we got all kinds of sanctions and tough words. But if it's the Iranian government, yeah, you're busy with other things. But for the college kids, is it fair to say, well, they don't get worked up about stuff they don't think they have any control over. Like, they feel like I'm protesting my country being involved in doing this. We're not involved in, you know, what the mullahs are doing.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, that is partly it. That's how you get them to turn out to some extent. But the actual plan, as we've discussed before, is the whole neo Marxist settler colonial thing. If you can establish that anybody who took over a landmass is illegitimate, you can overthrow them. And since they intend to replace democracy and Western civilization with Marxism, any justification for overthrowing the regime is a good one. You're racist, you're homophobes, you're transphobes, phobes, you're the patriarchy, you're white supremacists, whatever. Or you're settler colonialists. They're just looking for something to say, you're illegitimate, therefore we can overthrow you. And Israel was the perfect test case because it's a small country and it's surrounded by armed enemies. You're not going to overthrow the United States except very slowly by perverting the children's minds. So they thought Israel might be a win for the whole settler colonial Marxism thing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nobody cares what celebrities think anymore. Thank God. I mean, a very, very small chunk of Americans anymore care about these award shows and what they say. But nobody was wearing pins for the Iranian people and, you know, doing little shout outs when they got their award for I'm standing with the Iranian people and the crowd cheers and stands up and everything like that. Like happened with the Palestinians at Intermrv show. There were several people at the Golden Globes wearing pins on behalf of the woman got shot in Minneapolis.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. Women are getting raped and murdered for showing Their hair and you are just not interested.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, that's interesting. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I don't even bother to get annoyed with the, like the usual suspects at the awards show with their pins. I had a very brief moment of oh, my God. But then it passed because nobody cares.

[Jack Armstrong]

Major Epstein news.

[Joe Getty]

No, there's not.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God. That wasn't even a micro trigger. That was a full scale trigger, an attempt. The Clintons, Bill and Hillary, have refused to testify in the Epstein investigation before Congress. They had been speening and they have said they will not show up, so. Which I don't blame them. And this is the rare case I'm on the side of Hillary and Bill, I wouldn't show up either.

[Joe Getty]

No. The hell. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

What are we doing here?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I guess back to the Scott Adams thing. Yeah. The last word was he was in hospice and didn't have very long, but a friend tweeted 17 minutes ago, Scott Adams just passed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that's something. He. I think he did a podcast as recently as yesterday. I know he did one the day before. He said he felt horrible. He can't. He can't use his legs anymore. This was yesterday. And he said, but he's going to keep doing the podcast as long as he can.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

And he got the prostate cancer got him. Which gets very few people. But, you know, if something is 95% curable, that means 1 out of 20, it ain't curable.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah. God rest his soul. Great artist.

[Jack Armstrong]

So are we gonna finally get the answer around the whole trans athletes in high school stuff out of the Supreme Court?

[Joe Getty]

If you're saying you already have the answer, but yes, it would be nice if it was codified in law again.

[Jack Armstrong]

Supreme Court. Listening to oral arguments today, some interesting detail have come across and we'll. We'll lay out what's going to happen there coming up. I hope you can stay with us.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. Now, a central question here for justices is, does Becky have a specific competitive.

[Jack Armstrong]

Advantage since she's been on hormone therapy and has not yet technically gone through puberty? Now, West Virginia's attorney general says this law is about protecting girls and fairness in sports, not violating Title ix.

[Joe Getty]

And he says that Becky could still.

[Jack Armstrong]

Compete just on the boys team.

[Joe Getty]

Women and girls all across this country deserve a safe and fair playing field. Boys, when they're introduced into girls sports teams, displace them. They take their places on podiums, they take their places in championships, then they take away their opportunities for scholarships.

[Jack Armstrong]

So while they're going to get into the Actual today, arguing in the Supreme Court about whether or not there's a biological advantage to dudes over women. Now, Becky, known as Pepper, says that people don't understand what's going on in this case. I wish these people would educate themselves just so they would know that I'm just there to have a good time. That's a. Oh, she's just there to have a good time. That's good, Michael. If you're just there to have a good time, then go ahead. Dudes should be able to beat girls at their sports and win the medals.

[Joe Getty]

And get the scholarships and literally beat them down.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Depending on the sport. Well, unless you beat people down in track, you do it however you want. I just try to run the fastest, but maybe you throw a punch as you're going around the outside corner.

[Joe Getty]

Best offense is good defense in track as well as other sports. That's what I say. You got to elbow them right off the track.

[Jack Armstrong]

So there are two cases going on today. Let me go with the silly angle before Joe goes with the serious angle, since he almost went to law school. So. You know how in literature and movies, the authors often use a name that gives away the character's demeanor or whatever it is?

[Joe Getty]

Sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like Harry Potter was full of those. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's. Dickens was really big on. Under whatever you have, you know. You know, you have a woman named Do Gooder or something like that. And that movie, One Battle After Another, which I plan to talk about because I watched half of it yesterday, the Sean Penn character. So he won the award the other day for best actor. He's going to win the Oscar, too. I can't imagine him losing because he is freaking phenomenal in this movie. It's his best role ever. But his. His character, this military hard ass, his name is Lockjaw. It's one of those names. And. And so is this from the Supreme Court oral arguments. One of the cases. And this person is trying to get out of it. How did we all miss that? In the Indiana case, this person born a dude who decided they're a woman is named Lindsay Hecox. Oh, your name is Hecox?

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's too much.

[Joe Getty]

No, that's. That's. They've got to disallow that.

[Jack Armstrong]

You can't be named Hecox.

[Joe Getty]

No.

[Jack Armstrong]

As a woman with a penis. And argue in the Supreme Court.

[Joe Getty]

I believe the plaintiff's attorney, Ms. Chauvary, is now prepared to address the court. That is really something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Ncba. Lindsay Hecox, the Transgender college student who challenged the state law in Idaho, is now a senior at Boise State, no longer participating in sports, and says they don't want to be involved. So the justices are actually going to decide today whether or not to dismiss that case and whether it'll just be the. The. The other case.

[Joe Getty]

Miss her uterus. Would you like to respond? All right, listen, here's a controversial take. It'll probably get us banned from the airwaves. Katanji Brown Jackson.

[Jack Armstrong]

He I've got a dick. Is going to be competing in the.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, boy. What is that, Swedish? All right, here's your controversial take. Katanji Brown Jackson is either. There are only two choices. She is other. Either a just a blatant DEI hire who is incompetent for a job, or she is a progressive activist who's not there to seek the truth or interpret the Constitution. She's there to further progressive aims. Here's my evidence. She was questioning the attorney that defending the state. She's objecting that the state fails to address that. A subset of transgender students can show that they have no such advantage. There might be a boy masquerading as a girl who's so weak and terrible at sports, they don't have an advantage. That argument comes up a lot, and it's a stupid one. It's a stupid, stupid argument. The idea that because one male might be able to, well, lose to women negates the idea that we should have men's and women's sports. Are you insane? You've got to do away with men's and women's sports then. And every single participant in every single sport everywhere in America has to go on a case by case basis. Is that what you're asking for? That's idiotic. And it's like saying, all right, so there's an adult who is very weak. They're asthmatic. They, you know, they had the illness as a child, so they ought to be able to compete in youth sports. Therefore, we can't ban adults from competing in under 12 soccer because there exists one or two or a handful special cases, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

You can't bring out Jenny can't breathe as your defendant.

[Joe Getty]

Well, what about this blind man whose limbs don't work properly? He. He wouldn't have an advantage in U12 soccer. Are you effing kidding me? That seriously was enunciated by a Supreme Court justice. I don't know what to do.

[Jack Armstrong]

So this. It seems to me that. And I didn't almost go to law school or ever even really Even consider it. So best case scenario is the Supreme Court says, yeah, these states can have these laws, but then your blue states are still going to do what they do, right?

[Joe Getty]

No, I would be shocked if that were to occur because it is a blatant violation of the federal Title 9 to protect women's sports. I mean, you can't let, say Progressachusetts or Blue A Fornia say, no f. F girls. We're gonna let them beat the. Get the crap beaten out of them on the field of play.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, I've taken in a bunch of legal opinions on this, and one thought that could. This ruling could have an effect on whether or not you'd need to have trans bathrooms or all that sort of stuff.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it could. I mean, because the point I made earlier is one worth repeating. I think to even use the term biological male is to concede that there's a different kind of male, which is what the radical gender theory people are desperate for you to do. It's. It's a ridiculous notion. It's like saying, again, astronomical star or, you know, I don't. I don't know. What's another good example? Architectural architecture. That's the only kind there is. It's an entirely biological question, male v. Female. How you present or how you act or dress or whatever is entirely up to you. But that's why the activists wanted to blur the line between the meanings of the word sex and the word gender. And they said gender is however you want to present. And by the way, gender is also your genitalia and everything else. No, you're talking about sex. And it's an entirely biological question, man.

[Jack Armstrong]

If they get into the full on, as some legal minds seem to think is gender fluid, can you at one point, you know, decide, you know, I think I'm a woman now, or go back to me a man? Is that a thing or not? And the Supreme Court rules on it. I mean, I know that won't convince some people, but that will. That'll be a big moment.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, a lot of this radical theory stuff, the neo Marxist stuff that we're always talking about, the critical theory crowd, what they do is they. They question every premise you've ever had and they say, and if you don't agree with us, you are a hater and a bad person and a racist and a bigot and you should probably lose your job and your career. And people are so confused by their arguments and terrified by their tactics that they just shut up. But when you bring this thing out into the light and actually ask people who are no longer terrified in the wake of George Floyd, hey, do you think boys ought to be able to play in girls youth sports leagues? Enormous majorities of people say, no, absolutely not.

[Jack Armstrong]

It shouldn't be like this, but I think. I think it's probably true. So the Supreme Court had a kind of tepid ruling around the trans stuff in 2020 when it was super, super too hot to touch as a topic. And it ain't like that now.

[Joe Getty]

No.

[Jack Armstrong]

And I think, I think that makes a difference in their willingness to take these on and, and speak truth to common sense. I don't know what the right term would be.

[Joe Getty]

For the record, I have not changed my point of view or my attitude or my arguments one iota since those days. But. But.

[Jack Armstrong]

So if you see a human with a dangling member twixt their legs, you call that a man?

[Joe Getty]

Do you produce sperm? You're a male. Do you produce an egg? You are a female. Nothing else is significant, biologically speaking. But I'm wearing mascara and I took hormones to give me breasts. Okay, go ahead.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the whole Elon Grock deep fake porn thing has exploded in the last couple of days.

[Joe Getty]

I thought that would come and go, honestly, but people are unhappy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, well, it's. It's good. It's going to be here forever. There's nothing you can do about it. Speaking of Grok, just briefly before we take a break, this was kind of interesting. So I. Who did I ask? Was it Grok or Claude? Okay, Claude made the mistake. So I was the movie One Battle After Another. I was gonna do my little thing about Hecox, and I was trying to make sure I had Sean Penn's character name right. I thought, it's Lockjaw, I think, which is a pretty funny name for a guy that plays the role he plays. But. So I asked Claude, what's Sean Penn's character name in the movie One Battle After Another? And Claude said to me.

[Joe Getty]

Bring it back up here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Claude said to me, I don't recognize a film called One Battle After Another with Sean Penny. Could you provide a little more context? Are you thinking of Thin Red Line or We're no Angels or some other movie? And I thought, what? It's the most talked about movie of the last 72 hours. How is that possible? Then when I asked Grock, they immediately went to Sean's pen's character in the 2025 movie, which recently won the Golden Globe for as Lucky. Like, how does stuff like that happen with AI? That's the big mystery and why it's so troubling. If you're, you know, trying to build a legal case and you ask for some obvious information and it says that doesn't exist, I'll just.

[Joe Getty]

Worse yet, that does.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And then make something up. Isn't that weird? And nobody knows why that is. I mean, that, that's another example of like your tattoo from last week where you could, A child could Google that anywhere and come up with that information. How did you not come up with that, Claude?

[Joe Getty]

Well, I, yeah, I get that because the image thing is different than the words thing, but why haven't you fixed it? And I mean, it's like Claude had been on vacation for like three or four weeks. It was on a cruise with its sweetheart and hadn't been reading about the new Sean Penn movie or something. I mean, it's inexplicable.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's weird. Anyway, if you're a female, there will be nudes of you floating around somewhere, guaranteed. It's just a thing, I guess, in the the modern world. Among other things to talk about.

[Joe Getty]

Stay here, Armstrong, and get.

[Ashley St. Clair]

Ashley St. Clair is sounding the alarm after Elon Musk's AI chatbot Grok generated and published sexualized deep fake images without her permission and shared them on X. How does it make you feel when you see your likeness being manipulated like that?

[Jack Armstrong]

The worst for me was seeing myself.

[Joe Getty]

Undressed, bent over, and then my toddler's backpack.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God, this whole thing. So there's a number of things going on here. First of all, the vocal fry of the person on CBS News talking to Ashley St. Clair. Ashley St. Clair, if you don't know who she is, is one of the baby mamas of Elon Musk. Here's what's going to happen. If you're really, really rich and you have like a dozen women you paid to have kids with you by, by.

[Joe Getty]

Odds and percentages, some of them are.

[Jack Armstrong]

Going to be crazy or annoying.

[Joe Getty]

Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

And this particular one, she and Elon are in a battle over their one year old. Elon says she's trying to transition the kid so now she is a one year old. A one year old.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, Lord. And she's an activist lefty, I guess. Yeah, assuming.

[Jack Armstrong]

And now she's firing back at Elon with this to me stupid story of people out there created deep fakes of me naked. Yeah, you can do that with any woman on earth. So the fact that it's you bent over or whatever position it's in, whatever. And so she's contacted these various countries. Some countries have banned Grok because of deep fake sexual stuff. So she's fighting back against Elon on this front because he's trying to get full custody their kid over the whole trans thing. That's what's going on here. This is like a, you know, ugly divorce situation is what it is.

[Joe Getty]

That's ridiculous. Okay.

[Jack Armstrong]

While the issue still is interesting and important and I just don't think there's anything you can do about it, that AI, There's. There's going to be AI out there somewhere. Even if you make this one or that one doesn't do it, there are plenty others that will, that are going to be able to turn any woman's picture into her naked or having sex or whatever you want it to be. And that. That sucks. But I don't know. I don't. I'm not a woman, so I don't know how I would react. But that's not me. That's my head on something else. So I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Katie, thoughts?

[Jack Armstrong]

I. I think before this whole AI thing became such a huge, obvious situation, like a nude popping up would be like, oh, my God.

[Joe Getty]

But now that it's. I mean, it's so blatantly obvious at this point.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I've seen some of these where it is incredibly blatant obvious. I mean, the head's not the right size for the body or, or facing the wrong direction or whatever. And how damaged are you by that?

[Joe Getty]

I think you've been right all along, especially for girls in school or whatever. People are giggling about it, making jokes about it. That would be horrible. Horrifying, sure.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of course it would be.

[Joe Getty]

But especially among adults. Look, this sort of thing is going to be omnipresent, has nothing to do with you. It's jackasses doing. You know what jackasses do. Move on with your life. It doesn't affect you if you don't let it affect you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, and to CBS to sit down with her and take her complaints seriously and pretend they don't know that they're in a battle over their child for custody.

[Joe Getty]

Come on.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's. Yeah, yeah. What. What are you doing here? Another angle. Well, here's Elon defending Grok over this.

[Ashley St. Clair]

First of all, Elon Musk defiantly defending his AI chat bot Grok's ability to digitally undress images of real people as countries around the world take action against the AI tool after Grok's X account flooded with requests to create deepfake non consensual nearly nude images of adults and in some cases children. X has said it is taking action against those who prompted GROK to create sexually exploitative images of children and has since restricted image generation request on Grok's X account to paid subscribers, though users can still digitally undress images by chatting with Grok directly.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you have to be a paid subscriber, which I'm not to Grok to do that. I do. I. I'm not doing that. But. And. And so you can ban it, but it sounds like you can get around it by having a conversation for a while with Crock.

[Joe Getty]

I understand why people are outraged, but I mean, if I was like a really, really gifted artist and I could draw brilliantly, I could draw a picture.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of Hillary Clinton naked.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. For instance. My longtime dream, you know, and then where are we? Is that illegal now, too? I don't. You've been right all along. Just got to get used to this because there's no stopping it. Here's Euros are completely unrealistic.

[Jack Armstrong]

They are. Here's one more clip from that story.

[Ashley St. Clair]

Elon Musk repeatedly attacked UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer on X and reposted AI generated images of him in a bikini.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that's out of bounds.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know what his point. Well, Elon just likes trolling people. Yes, but he might have been starmers.

[Joe Getty]

A pots and screws with the Internet too much. But he might.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. And they got a list of how many people they've put in jail over tweets and stuff like that. They. They out stretch any country in the world by far on that in Great Britain. But Elon's point might have been, here you are in a bikini. How much damage was done? Everybody knows that's not you on the beach in bikini. I mean, what's the. What are you angry about?

[Joe Getty]

That'd be a good point. Hey, I got a quick Supreme Court update thingy very quickly to clarify on the transgender athlete thing. Remember, the Supreme Court doesn't decide cases that answers questions, it settles questions. And they intentionally took a case as to whether states may ban transgender athletes based on the equal protection clause of the Constitution. They did not take a case on whether states must ban trans athletes based on Title 9. So my dream of them saying, please, that's why Title 9 exam exists. Forget it.

[Jack Armstrong]

And that's why I think that will die. Blue states will just keep doing what they were doing. Right. Until a different sort of case comes along. And then what about Hecox up in Idaho?

[Joe Getty]

You got to change your name if.

[Jack Armstrong]

You'Re going to get involved in this.

[Joe Getty]

You should change your name.

[Jack Armstrong]

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