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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. Ghislaine Maxwell trying to stop the DOJ from releasing the grand jury transcripts in her case.
Maxwell's lawyer essentially filed a motion today opposing those files from being released because she is appealing her case all the way to the Supreme Court. Her team writes this Jeffrey Epstein is dead. Ghislaine Maxwell is not. Whatever interest the public may have in Epstein, that interest cannot justify a broad intrusion into grand jury secrecy.
So G dog, as we're calling her because we don't know how to pronounce her first name is her.
Joe Getty
Neither does anyone else.
Jack Armstrong
Her and her lawyers are trying to stop the DOJ from releasing the grand jury testimony. Now that makes sense. And that's the stuff that Trump said even yesterday. Well, if that comes out, a whole bunch of people's names are going to be in there that didn't do anything wrong and it's going to complicate. So there's that. But that's different from the audio transcript from the interview the other day, right?
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
So that's this clip on whether or not that transcript is going to come out. Her lawyer has given us really the only details we have about what was discussed. He has said that she answered questions about roughly 100 different people, but we don't know what she said. And now we're learning.
Christina Quinn
Not only is there audio, but there's.
Jack Armstrong
A transcript that would reveal her answers word for word.
There are discussions ongoing inside the White.
House about whether they should release this transcript. It's also not clear if the Justice Department. She made this recording and the White.
House are on the same page about this decision.
And according to ABC's reporting, that transcript would include. And this is probably one of the reasons the White House is okaying. Okaying that coming out, is that G Dog said Trump did nothing in her presence to cause concern. So that eight, nine hour interview with the number two at the Justice Department, which is completely unheard of, that transcript might come out. Also completely unheard of is her getting moved to a Club Fed type prison. So her getting moved to a. Basically you're staying on a community college campus for the next 20 years at the same time she announces, I didn't see Trump do anything wrong. Doesn't look good.
Joe Getty
No, no. I'm darkly amused by that choice of words. She didn't see anything that would cause her concern or cause concern. And I'm like, wait a minute. Cause you concern. You're trafficking teenage girls to get sexed up. So I'm sure it didn't concern you at all. Not that I think Trump was guilty of anything. I don't either this, you know, context, but it's just a funny choice of words. No, you wouldn't be. Who's concerned in this situation.
Jack Armstrong
So if you're bored with that aspect of the story, this part of the story is kind of interesting, I think. This is from Substack about Bill Clinton in the blue dress. This is the famous painting that hung in Epstein's most expensive house in Manhattan. This is from someone named Jessica Reed Krause. Do you know her work? I do not.
Joe Getty
I do not. Okay.
Jack Armstrong
It's a Substack person and I have no idea what her beliefs or priors are, but I thought this was an interesting article. The artist who actually painted that incent insists that she lost track of the Clinton painting after grad school. I've got the backstory on how it landed in Epstein's Manhattan estate. This is kind of interesting. So this person writes, funny how much attention was paid to that ridiculous birthday card that Trump supposedly sent Epstein, scripted with language and sentiments he clearly doesn't use in an inflection he's likely not even capable of. Michael Wolf, who we've interviewed before, has written a couple of political books that I don't know if we're good or not, but we've had him on before. His theory is that G Dog leaked the birthday card thing as a subtle threat, a signal to Trump that she knows more and can share more about his relationship with Jeffrey Maga sources insist. There's no way that he wrote that card, so I don't know. But Trump wasn't the only one immortalized in Epstein's surreal collection. The Clinton portrait was a sheer provocation of some sort.
Joe Getty
But what of what you've been saying for years?
Jack Armstrong
How is it not me? Of all the grotesque curiosities in the Jeffrey Epstein sadistic Manhattan townhouse, nothing compare captured public attention quite like Bill Clinton, cross legged and twinkle eyed in a cobalt blue dress and red heels, pointing with a cheeky I know something you don't know gesture. That is a pretty good description of the painting, a remarkably bold statement from a man rumored to traffic in political blackmail and covert surveillance. It wasn't placed there by mistake, of course it wasn't. As you walked in in a room to the right, a source told the New York Post. Everybody who saw it laughed and smirked.
Joe Getty
BO Everybody.
Jack Armstrong
But what did it mean? A private joke between Epstein and Clinton? A veiled threat? Or just visual fodder for those who weren't in on the joke, Whatever the joke is, the painting was called Parsing Bill. It was Originally created in 2012 by an Australian artist for her master's thesis at the New York Academy of Art. It was exhibited for her class, she got her grade. Then she sold the painting to an unknown buyer that night. Assumed like most student work, it ended up storage in storage somewhere. Disappeared. She found out seven years later when it broke as a giant news story. Holy crap, that's my painting I made. So the artist didn't paint it. Well, what was and then they talked to the model and who had provided the dress and the model for the legs and all this different sort of stuff, which I don't really find that interesting. The artist said she had no connection with Epstein and no knowledge of who had bought the work or where it ended up. The model got doxed and all sort of stuff. But the model had nothing to do.
Joe Getty
With it either, right?
Jack Armstrong
The painting didn't seem out of place in the townhouse, though. The townhouse was a theater of unease, curated with disturbing surreal decor, much of it reportedly selected by G Dog. A female doll in a wedding dress dangled from the chandelier. A chessboard in the study featured half naked figurines modeled after Epstein's actual staff.
Joe Getty
That's certainly harassment, isn't it?
Jack Armstrong
Prosthetic eyeballs, originally designed for wounded soldiers, were mounted on the wall like hunting trophies.
Joe Getty
What does that mean?
Jack Armstrong
In one hallway, a photorealistic Mural depicted Epstein in prison garb, surrounded by barbed wire and guards. According to publicist R. Curie Hay, who visited the home once, Epstein pointed to the mural and said, that's me. And I had this painted because there's always the possibility that could be me again. Irony or something darker, says this author. A calculated display of control. All this stuff is weird.
Joe Getty
Oh, yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Parsing Bill was theatric, satirical in theme. When painted, the artist intended it as a commentary on perception, power, and the Clinton scandal. But once it entered Epstein's orbit, context twisted and irony gave way to menace. A student project became a totem of secret knowledge, a symbol of dominance. Hung like a trophy in Epstein's entryway. I mean, you can get the original intent. If you don't know anything about Epstein. The blue dress, Monica. I mean, you know, it makes sense. I'm not sure it's powerful or anything, but when Epstein ends up with it, purchase it somehow and hangs it, then it. What does it freaking mean then?
Joe Getty
All right, read. Read that last sentence again, would you?
Jack Armstrong
A student project became a totem of secret knowledge, a symbol of dominance. Hunk like a trophy in Epstein's entryway. Oh.
Joe Getty
Or I mean, because that's some really good florid writing. Or Epstein saw it and thought it was really funny and he hung it.
Jack Armstrong
Well, that's basically what she's asking here. Is it just that, I mean, when people would come in and laugh or smirk, was there a knowing. Was it a knowing smirk or was it just hilarious?
Joe Getty
On what level is this communicated? Yeah, that's such an interesting question.
Jack Armstrong
But that's still the question of if you're a major figure in the world, just, you know, all of the. God. Have you seen the collection of pictures of Epstein with people?
Joe Getty
I've seen a lot of them, yeah.
Jack Armstrong
He's been photographed with like every important person of the last 60 years. There he is with five different presidents. There he is with Mick Jagger. There he is with the Queen of England. There he's. I mean, just. It's unbelievable the connections he had. But if you.
Joe Getty
I heard one person describe it as. You would literally get an invitation saying, I'm having Bill Gates and Katie Couric over for dinner tomorrow night or Thursday night. Are you available?
Jack Armstrong
But since I assume he was a lefty leaning guy like most of your big time Manhattan type of dudes, in terms of his politics, why would you have a mocking picture of one of the most revered people in America, certainly at the time, Bill Clinton? That's weird. You wouldn't just do that for fun. Like you wouldn't do that with somebody like your. Your dad or somebody you respect? Some picture that mocks him, painting that mocks him, and hang it in your house for fun?
Joe Getty
No, Reagan. Wearing mesh stockings and a corset.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, that. That your friends wouldn't think. That's. That. Why is that funny? I don't get it. Why are you doing that?
Joe Getty
Yeah, well, in some humiliating. No, you're right.
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I absolutely. Of course I'm not a, a pervert and B, you know, whatever else he was, but. No, I see what you're saying. My innocent explanation is not the. The most likely one.
Jack Armstrong
According to sources familiar with Epstein's home, he was deliberate with his symbols. A stuffed black poodle sat atop a grand piano in one room. No decorating.
Joe Getty
Yeah, that symbolizes man's inhumanity to man. I know that one.
Jack Armstrong
No decorator would ever tell you to do that. But I want people to think about what it means to stuff a dog. What.
Joe Getty
Is that, a quote from Epstein?
Jack Armstrong
Yes.
Joe Getty
What the hell?
Jack Armstrong
If you weren't in on the joke, you often were part of the punchline, this writer says. Of course, the Internet loves decoding symbolism, but it's possible Epstein might have just liked what the painting evoked. Unease, confusion and vulnerability. I just don't think he would do that with a friend. And like, again, the most revered person in that orbit.
Joe Getty
Right? Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Whatever the case.
Joe Getty
Especially given how the whole Monica blue dress thing was. It was a rather unpleasant, you know, chapter in the Clintons lives. You wouldn't think they'd want that thrown in their faces in a humorous way. Right there in your house.
Jack Armstrong
Exactly.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
That's strange. That's. I still say that's a. What are you gonna do about it?
Joe Getty
You could gesture.
Jack Armstrong
It's a flex. Was it? Is it? What's anybody gonna say to me about it? You think I don't know things about you been to my island? I mean, has Bill had been to his island 28 times? Has that been nailed down?
Joe Getty
I have no idea. They have passenger manifests for a lot of the flights.
Jack Armstrong
I know, but if it's four, it ain't good.
Joe Getty
Well, yeah. As I pointed out though, not everybody was sexing up 16 year olds. The guy had legit parties and outings and vacations and stuff like that. That was how he built all those connections. He didn't have Bill Gates sitting at his table and Katie Couric because Katie wanted to sex up 16 year old. It was like an all inclusive resort. But it was free and he'd fly you there.
Jack Armstrong
I'll finish with this, the end of the writing here. Whatever the case, parsing Bill remains one of the most unforgettable images from the Epstein saga. Not because of what it says about Clinton, but because what it reveals about Epstein. How he lived, how he saw other people, what his relationships were with these other people. How art could be used as leverage. Yeah, I. I don't know. I don't know if we'll ever get an answer on that. The guy that would know the most is dead at the hands of Hillary Clinton.
Joe Getty
I was going to say commission an artist, but I could have AI do it. I want a naked Joe Biden wearing a dog leash eating out of a dog. Bo big one too, hanging right on the wall.
Jack Armstrong
I think I have a hunter walking on a leash. Something like that.
Joe Getty
Oh wow. Wait a minute. Now you're onto something.
Jack Armstrong
Anybody have any idea?
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Jack Armstrong
I got. See, schadenfreude is when you're happy that something bad happened to somebody. Federnade is when you wish you'd ordered the food they ordered. What is, what is the term for. I guess just jealous. I just got a text from a radio colleague who's interviewing Ice Cube today. And I thought, ah, that's so cool. I wish I was interviewing Ice Cube today.
Joe Getty
Wow. On what topic?
Jack Armstrong
Hey, everybody. We're sitting here with a crazy MFER named Ice Cube. Ice. How are you today? That's how he described himself at the beginning of Straight out of Compton. Oh, I don't know what they're talking to him about. That's a good question. Probably, like, because we've had this happen before many times. Get a really, really cool celebrity, but they got like some specific charity you're not that into, and that's all they want to talk about. And you want to talk to them about the reason they're so dang famous.
Joe Getty
Or a product or. He's an actor now though, right? Is he still on a TV cop show?
Jack Armstrong
I don't know if he's. Has he ever been on a TV cop show? I didn't know that, but he's been in some of my. Some movies my kids watch. Like kids movies. He's like the dad, the bumbling dad who the divorced mom meets up with and likes and they raise the kids together and that's.
Joe Getty
Oh, that's nice. Happy ending.
Jack Armstrong
Exactly.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Of course, kids aren't getting together much at all these days, Jack. Uh, this is a. We don't really have time for this. But as completely taken by surprise by this story, Google Calendar, like dominates every waking moment for the current generation. Like that's in college.
Jack Armstrong
Google Calendar?
Joe Getty
Yeah, that. Their whole day. They need their whole day spelled out via Google Calendar. What time they go to sleep, what time they eat, if they're going on a five minute walk, if they want to grab lunch with you at one of the dining halls on campus that day. And in fact, this one guy sent a Google Calendar invite. Come over to my dorm. Oh, no, this was a friend. Just. Just wanted to hang out, but sent a Google Calendar invite. This other guy sent this girl who he fancied in his class. He fancied an event set for 11:30pm Friday night. The event was titled Hookup question mark. And she responded, yes, and the rest is history. He said they saw each other for the rest of the semester, though the romance fizzled out after that.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know if I know anybody in this age group that I think would be doing this Google Calendar thing.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I saw another piece. I think it was at the Free Press a youngish woman was writing about Katie. Maybe you can help me with this. How? Why my generation is terrible at partying and it was that invite app. Oh yeah, Evite. It's an Evite where they it's different. It's like a newer hipper one, but it's the same in that you can see who is invited, who's said yes, who hasn't said yes yet. And it becomes this whole sturm and drong, this whole stressful thing for that generation. Everything's very premeditated, very carefully done.
Jack Armstrong
Fits in with the whole planning, activities, things their whole lives.
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Jack Armstrong
I don't. I don't know if I can remember a story we've ever done in 30 years of doing this that I understand less than the Epstein story. But we have Breaking Epstein News Breaking Epstein News oh boy. The vice president, J.D. vance, is hosting an Epstein Strategy Dinner tonight with Pam Bondi, Cash Patel and others. A strategy dinner led by the Vice President of the United States. About the Epstein story to me leads Me to believe they think this is a big deal, that they got a.
Joe Getty
From the top down, approved leak or is that an UN Approved leak?
Jack Armstrong
ABC News and variety of other. It just came out in the last hour. J.D. vance on Tonight is expected to host a group of top administration officials at his residence for a strategy session dinner table events.
Joe Getty
Right. Thank you.
Jack Armstrong
Sources familiar with the matter told ABC News, they obviously think this is. I don't know what they think it is. Again, I don't have any idea. I don't know if they are as flummoxed as anybody else, but they're just trying to figure out how to massage some of their core voters or if.
Joe Getty
There'S some poor choice of words given Epstein's modus operandi, but go on.
Jack Armstrong
Or if there's something real to strategize about, like there's actual, I don't know, evidence that's going to come out about something or.
Joe Getty
I have no idea. It would have come out by now.
Jack Armstrong
The Vice President, the Attorney General, the head of the FBI and others.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Joe Getty
I'll bet Trump said, look, you got to figure out how to put out this fire quick. All right.
Jack Armstrong
Sure. They'll be reporting on that tomorrow.
Joe Getty
I. Yeah, yeah. If I'm on that committee, I'm very tempted to say let it lie, let it lie. But I don't know.
Jack Armstrong
And just hope that it's overcome by events which I thought had already happened. I thought, what was it. What were you talking about over the weekend that got all the attention? Remember, it led the Sunday shows and.
Joe Getty
I think things that. Oh, yeah.
Jack Armstrong
I even claimed that it might have been orchestrated to bump Epstein off the map. And it. And I thought maybe it had worked. What, six? This is the weight. It's Wednesday. It's not like it's a month from. It's not like two years from this past Saturday. It's Wednesday. I don't remember what the lead story was on almost Sunday talk shows. Oh, him firing the budget woman, labor statistics woman.
Joe Getty
Oh, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which.
Jack Armstrong
Now seems like, why did we ever talk about that? Anyway, that was the only story all weekend long in the news. And I thought, they've killed the Epstein story. He's been killed again. It's over, but it's back.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Okay. Well, we'll all eagerly await news of J.D. vance's conspiratorial dinner party.
Jack Armstrong
So anyway, unless there's something real for them to discuss. But, well, we don't know.
Joe Getty
Complete change topic. There are a bunch of lefty Lunatics running for mayors of big cities. And because the media is in New York, they focused on Mumdomi the commie. Mostly to the exclusion of a couple other really well formed nut jobs.
Jack Armstrong
Mark Halperin has put the latest odds at 85% that Mamdani wins because his sense is that the New York Times has decided that's their guy. They were kind of against him early on, but they've decided he's the guy. So with the New York Times help, he's going to be almost impossible to beat. That's going to be something for Republicans to to run on.
Joe Getty
Give me a little mum Dami. 81 there, Michael.
Jack Armstrong
This is a dark moment to be a stranger in our city, to be a stranger in our country. An authoritarian government in Washington D.C. is dispatching mass agents to abduct immigrants from our streets. That is not justice. It is cruelty and it is criminal.
Joe Getty
Okay, you got him. I give you one Katie Wilson, who is the left candidate in Seattle in 80.
Jack Armstrong
A city with social housing, A city with fast reliable public transit, universal childcare. A city where no one has to sleep unsheltered income. Just feel that powerful. I didn't understand all those things.
Joe Getty
Socialized housing, okay. Free, efficient, fast public transit. Bs Child care paid for by the government. Or she might have said affordable. I don't recall. And no one has to sleep unsheltered.
Jack Armstrong
I, I believe the crowd loves the free child care. How many of those people have children? I don't believe you're writing the mass transit. You like the theory of a mass transit for other people. That's the problem with mass transit. Everybody thinks it's a good idea for other people.
Joe Getty
Yes, I'm far too busy. And then Omar Fattah, who's not getting nearly enough attention is running for the giant city of Minneapolis mayor. He's the leader. He just got the endorsement of the Minnesota Farm and Labor Party which is their Democratic party over the far left incumbent Fry by name who is like totally into defunding the police and like the maximalist view of the George Floyd riots. And he just shut everything down during COVID and totally on the side of the teachers union. But he is getting beat on his left by this Fatah guy. Hit us with 82, Michael.
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Joe Getty
Two, protect our city from a hostile White House.
Jack Armstrong
And three, diversify our city's public safety response.
Joe Getty
Give us the other one.
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Trump means not letting MPD interact with.
Jack Armstrong
Ice, whether it's for an immigration rate or not.
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Joe Getty
So this guy's a Somali immigrant.
Jack Armstrong
Well, I realize these people are running for mayor in their, their little areas and this might work for them, but man, the ability to paint that is like what all Democrats are for. The Republicans is pretty handy.
Joe Getty
It might be worth it.
Jack Armstrong
It's not where most people are.
Joe Getty
Let's see. He would enact race based housing policies, prevent evictions from rental properties, and codify public financing for the state's annual Trans Equity summer, among other stances.
Jack Armstrong
The old Trans Equity Summit.
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah. Ought to be paid for by the taxpayer. He has vowed to, quote, ensure that events like the Trans Equity Summit are fully funded and prioritized.
Jack Armstrong
It's hard. It's hard for me to think like people who think the way they think. I mean, I just, I'm not a progressive. I know. Well, married couple with children. When they were deciding what city to make their home base, they looked up recycling programs and they moved to the city that had the best recycling programs in America and set up shop there. That was their one criteria.
Joe Getty
Well, slap my ass and call me Sally. So, I mean, that's the dopiest thing I've ever heard.
Jack Armstrong
That's so crazy to me. I mean.
Joe Getty
Yeah. Yeah. Wow. So, and on that topic, I got this suggestion for the freedom loving quote of the day at the beginning of the show from Gail. It's a fellow by the name of Jason. I don't know his work, but the essence of conservatism is gratitude for what you have and especially for what you've been given. The essence of leftism is outrage over the gap between reality and your utopian dreams.
Jack Armstrong
That's pretty good.
Joe Getty
I don't think he's off base there. And it's funny. This came across my radar screen just a couple hours after I became aware of this Twitter thread by a gal who is a mom. And I'll bet some of y' all can. Can relate to this. I can to some extent. I have a conservative child and a liberal child. She writes. My conservative child works hard. He's been steadily employed since graduating from college. College. He bought his first home not too long ago. He is adulting. We're very proud of him. He never wants to have to ask for help and wants to make it on his own. In as a matter of fact, he's offered to pay us back the standard amount it takes to raise a child. We told him no of course not, because that's not how it works.
Jack Armstrong
That's a little much the first part. I like that. That's going a little far. I did this. I, I can eat it.
Joe Getty
But he's always been motivated to do better and be better. My liberal child recently told me that capitalism is evil. It's not right to have to spend your childhood going to school, then have to get a job, go to your room where you just work all the time and never get to have fun, to have a life.
Jack Armstrong
Give me your phone and go to your room.
Joe Getty
Trust me when I say this conversation did not end well. I, I don't think she means literally a child. I think this person is grown. They're both grown, probably still.
Jack Armstrong
Give me your phone and go to your room.
Joe Getty
Our relationship is a roller coaster, to say the least. She is disgusted with us for being pro Trump maga, expresses her disdain for me, especially daily. She also told us she didn't ask to be born. So since we decided to have her, we're on the hook for life to support her. She has a college degree as well. Tried once to make it in her chosen profession. It didn't bring instant success, so she gave up. She is a creative writer. She wrote a novel, got it published, but stopped there. There's so much more she needed to do but didn't want to do it.
Jack Armstrong
The I need to take care of you forever. Well, I get a, I get a say in that also, so perhaps I won't.
Joe Getty
Right. I guess. They grew up in the same household. One, she, her conservative child chose a small private Christian based university and her daughter chose a big liberal arts college. And she attributes the difference to that. I don't know if that's accurate, but she said she grew.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, that's probably. I was thinking that she must have tripped and dropped that kid on the head, his head, her head, when she was little. I mean, to be that far off base.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I disagree. That's. Yeah, it just, it happens. But I think the college thing probably has a lot to do with it. She writes, they grew up in the same household, both saw our struggles and triumphs. My husband and I both worked. We were both very involved in their childhoods. One appreciates everything and so grateful to have us as parents, always thanking us, etc. The other blames us for everything wrong in her life and expects us to continually compensate her for it. She is liberal to the extreme. It's caused great conflict in our family.
Jack Armstrong
What would you do in that situation? I mean, I think it's really unlikely going to end up in that situation based on where my kids currently are politically, but you never know.
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
I mean, nothing would be more horrible to me than being estranged from any of my kids, but man on that one. Might have to tough love it for a while and hope they come back. I ain't paying for all this.
Joe Getty
Oh, no.
Jack Armstrong
While you criticize everything I've ever done for you.
Joe Getty
She says. The reason I'm posting all of this, I guess, is to say liberal indoctrination and ideologies, in my opinion, are ruining us as a society, destroying the foundation, valuables, principles, morals and beliefs of our great country. They've turned one of my children into a stranger.
Jack Armstrong
That'd be rough.
Joe Getty
I don't know if I'll ever get her back. Sounds dramatic but true. She expects us to be accepting intolerant to her views, but we simply have no right to ours.
Jack Armstrong
That's a good way.
Joe Getty
That sound familiar?
Jack Armstrong
That is a good way to put it.
Joe Getty
She's been programmed and there's no way to break through the fanatical muck.
Jack Armstrong
I don't. I. I have a friend who's in a close to this situation.
Joe Getty
Close to the situation with my kids, and there are interesting and extenuating circumstances, but they're not. They're not like angry, hateful, but, you know, I've got a kid in the Seattle Tacoma area and Seattle got off the hook, you know, Portlandia. If Fred Armisen had been from Seattle, the show would have been Seattle Stan, I think because it's every bit as looney as Portland.
Jack Armstrong
Oh, no doubt, no doubt.
Joe Getty
Yeah. But it's just you go through an indoctrination in college that most parents have no idea is happening, except if the kid shows up at Thanksgiving dinner lecturing everybody about how capitalism is evil. But I. I'm thankful and grateful that I have a very respectful relationship with my kids. And if they say something I think is Looney Tune, I tell them, you know, there is another point of view probably worth considering. And here it is. And I lay it out and it generally goes pretty well.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I've got a friend who has to refer in certain pronouns.
Joe Getty
Oh golly.
Jack Armstrong
And they play along.
Joe Getty
But yeah, that's a incredibly difficult position. The whole My kid decided that the reason she's unhappy is she's a dude, actually. Yeah. That's brutal.
Jack Armstrong
That's a tough.
Joe Getty
So brutal. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
We will finish strong.
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Joe Getty
Videos have gained attention online that appear to show a humanoid robot trying on.
Jack Armstrong
Sneakers at New York HOKA store. Well, I knew they were going to replace workers. I didn't know they were going to.
Joe Getty
Replace 50 year old white dads.
Jack Armstrong
The story that JD Vance is having a meeting in his house tonight to strategize around Epstein with the Attorney General, the leader of the FBI and others is being reported everywhere now. So everywhere sees that as a juicy story to cover.
Joe Getty
Yeah, the Democrats barnstorming around the country saying we demand transparency, having provided none when they had power.
Jack Armstrong
All right, well they probably provided as much as was needed since I'm not sure there's anything to know.
Joe Getty
Right. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah. So that's kind of interesting. I'm reading the back to Epstein again. I'm reading the New York Times story from yesterday. We never got to inside Epstein's house. A journalist actually went in there, took a bunch of pictures of the home and reporting on it. 21,000 square foot home right on Central Park. I wish I'd have looked up the address when I was at Central Park. I would have liked to have looked at it from the outside. He, he knew freaking everybody. Freaking everybody. And cameras, video cameras in every danged room. Among other things. They would have. You'd be there and so it might Be MBS from Saudi Arabia and Bill Gates and Elon Musk and you know, name other biggest names. Pope John Paul II might be other biggest names in the world.
Joe Getty
Super duper star athlete, sure.
Jack Armstrong
But the meals were always very basic. They said Chinese takeout on fancy trays or burgers.
Joe Getty
Works for me, didn't it?
Jack Armstrong
Works for me too.
Joe Getty
Love Chinese.
Jack Armstrong
Kind of funny that.
Joe Getty
He's kidding me. Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
The person walking around the house saw that he had a framed first edition copy of Lolita in his bedroom.
Joe Getty
A little on the nose.
Jack Armstrong
A little too much, isn't it? Lolita, if you don't know, is a story about a grown man having sex with a 12 year old. Humbert. Humbert. That's a little. Yeah, exactly.
Joe Getty
Did you just have a seizure? Is that the name of the character?
Jack Armstrong
That's the name of the character that's driving around in a car with the 12 year old girl.
Joe Getty
Humbert. Yes.
Jack Armstrong
Check it out. Pretty, pretty, pretty gaudy house. Looking at the picture.
Joe Getty
He had a stuffed poodle on his piano. Weird.
Jack Armstrong
Lots of weird art. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.
Joe Getty
Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew to wrap up the show. Why not Michelangelo in the control room? Would you lead us off, Michael? Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Well, tonight I'm in charge of dinner.
Joe Getty
And my wife's tired of always eating cheese dip every time I make dinner because it's the only thing I could make. So I'm gonna try pork chops tonight with some side dishes and hopefully nobody gets sick.
Jack Armstrong
I'd like to have a dinner at cheese dip tonight. That sounds fantastic. Of course you can. I'll just get some of those scoop chips and sit there and eat cheese dip.
Joe Getty
You're like a bear. Katie Green, our esteemed newswoman, has a final thought. Katie.
Katie Green
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Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
Oh, with our logo on them.
Joe Getty
I'm saying. A G branded bulldoze. Wow. Now that's some thinking, Katie. Way to go, Jack. Final thought for us. Yes.
Jack Armstrong
Don't know how I feel about that. Speaking of sex, watched the first episode of the new King of the Hill. King of the Hills made a comeback where Hank and his wife are old and Bobby is a grown up chef. Anywho, way more extreme sexy than the original was. I wasn't prepared for that with my 13 year old. Yeah.
Joe Getty
Oh boy.
Jack Armstrong
Just know that.
Joe Getty
Wow. Is Luann still on the show?
Jack Armstrong
I haven't seen her yet. That's what you're hoping for.
Joe Getty
Hot. Luann My final thought is considerably more serious than that. If you look at all of these civilians who died in the Pacific theater, World War II, most, the vast majority of whom were slaughtered by Imperial Japan. The dead from the atomic bombing. Related folks, it's less than 2% of the civilian deaths. Less than 2%.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Getty are wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.
Joe Getty
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Jack Armstrong
We will see tomorrow. God Bless America. Armstrong and Getty thank you for listening.
Joe Getty
To the Armstrong and Getty Show. Tune in again tomorrow for more of this. For more of this. Your poor colon. I weep for your colon.
Jack Armstrong
My colon high fives me. Yeah, that was some good. Ciao. It says.
Joe Getty
Wow.
Jack Armstrong
Having a little time processing it. A little tough time getting it out of here, but colon abuse.
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Ah come on.
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Armstrong & Getty On Demand
Episode: You Did It Joe! You Ate All Your Kibble!
Release Date: August 6, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts
In this episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand, hosts Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty delve deep into the ongoing legal battles surrounding Ghislaine Maxwell, the intricate and provocative art collection of Jeffrey Epstein, and the implications of high-profile political strategy sessions. Alongside these heavyweight topics, the duo touches on generational shifts in technology use and the growing ideological divides within families. This detailed summary captures the essence of their discussions, enriched with notable quotes and timestamps for reference.
Timestamp: [03:38] – [16:14]
The episode opens with Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty discussing the latest developments in Ghislaine Maxwell's legal battles. Maxwell's legal team has filed a motion to prevent the Department of Justice (DOJ) from releasing grand jury transcripts related to her case, aiming to appeal her situation all the way to the Supreme Court.
Jack Armstrong highlights the gravity of the situation:
“Maxwell's lawyer essentially filed a motion today opposing those files from being released because she is appealing her case all the way to the Supreme Court.”
[04:06]
Joe Getty adds a humorous yet critical perspective on Maxwell’s statements:
“She didn't see anything that would cause her concern or cause concern... But you wouldn't be. Who's concerned in this situation.”
[06:39]
The hosts examine the potential repercussions of releasing these transcripts, worrying about the inclusion of names of individuals who might be implicated inadvertently, potentially complicating their legal and personal lives.
Timestamp: [06:39] – [16:14]
Armstrong and Getty transition to an analysis of Jeffrey Epstein's art collection, focusing on a particular painting titled "Parsing Bill," which features Bill Clinton in an unconventional and satirical portrayal.
Jack Armstrong describes the painting's impact:
“Parsing Bill was theatric, satirical in theme... A student project became a totem of secret knowledge, a symbol of dominance.”
[10:01]
Joe Getty questions the intent behind Epstein's exhibition of such art:
“Why would you have a mocking picture of one of the most revered people in America... It's weird.”
[13:39]
The discussion delves into the symbolic meaning of the artwork and how it reflects Epstein’s influence and the possible hidden messages intended for his high-profile associates. They ponder whether the art served as a subtle threat or merely personal aesthetic choices of Epstein.
Timestamp: [29:21] – [31:15]
The conversation shifts to recent news about Vice President J.D. Vance hosting a strategy dinner at his residence, focusing on the Epstein case, alongside high-ranking officials like the Attorney General and the FBI leader.
Jack Armstrong expresses intrigue and skepticism:
“The vice president, J.D. vance, is hosting an Epstein Strategy Dinner tonight with Pam Bondi, Cash Patel and others. A strategy dinner led by the Vice President of the United States about the Epstein story leads me to believe they think this is a big deal.”
[29:21]
Joe Getty speculates on the motivations behind the dinner:
“They’re just trying to figure out how to massage some of their core voters or if there's something real to strategize about.”
[30:06]
The hosts speculate whether this gathering signifies a deeper government interest in uncovering new information about Epstein or is merely a tactical move to address public concerns and voter sentiments.
Timestamp: [21:32] – [25:02]
Armstrong and Getty explore how the current generation's reliance on digital tools like Google Calendar is shaping social interactions and relationships.
Jack Armstrong comments on the structured social planning:
“Their whole day. They need their whole day spelled out via Google Calendar.”
[23:13]
Joe Getty shares anecdotes illustrating this trend:
“This one guy sent a Google Calendar invite. Come over to my dorm... The event was titled Hookup question mark.”
[24:11]
The discussion highlights how technological dependence is redefining spontaneity and personal connections, with the younger generation preferring meticulously planned interactions over organic socializing.
Timestamp: [35:02] – [42:56]
The hosts delve into personal stories reflecting the growing ideological rifts between parents and their children, emphasizing the challenges of differing political beliefs.
Joe Getty narrates a poignant story shared by a listener:
“My conservative child works hard... He never wants to have to ask for help... My liberal child recently told me that capitalism is evil.”
[37:07]
Jack Armstrong empathizes with the emotional strain:
“What would you do in that situation?... Nothing would be more horrible to me than being estranged from any of my kids.”
[40:25]
The conversation underscores the emotional and relational turmoil families face when confronted with starkly opposing political ideologies, with both hosts acknowledging the difficulty in bridging these divides.
Timestamp: [50:20] – [55:21]
As the episode approaches its conclusion, Armstrong and Getty share light-hearted and serious final thoughts, reflecting on personal experiences and broader societal issues.
Joe Getty offers a reflective and somber note:
“My final thought is considerably more serious... the vast majority of [WWII] civilian deaths were slaughtered by Imperial Japan... Less than 2% from the atomic bombing.”
[51:36]
Jack Armstrong adds humor to balance the tone:
“Don’t know how I feel about that... Speaking of sex, watched the first episode of the new King of the Hill.”
[51:10]
The episode concludes with a mix of humor and gravity, leaving listeners contemplating both personal and historical reflections.
Jack Armstrong on Maxwell's Legal Motion:
“Maxwell's lawyer essentially filed a motion today opposing those files from being released because she is appealing her case all the way to the Supreme Court.”
[04:06]
Joe Getty on Generational Technology Use:
“This one guy sent a Google Calendar invite. Come over to my dorm... The event was titled Hookup question mark.”
[24:11]
Jack Armstrong on Epstein's Art Collection:
“A student project became a totem of secret knowledge, a symbol of dominance.”
[10:01]
Joe Getty on Family Ideological Divides:
“My liberal child recently told me that capitalism is evil... It's just a funny choice of words.”
[38:35]
Joe Getty on Final Thoughts:
“My final thought is considerably more serious... the vast majority of [WWII] civilian deaths were slaughtered by Imperial Japan.”
[51:36]
This episode of Armstrong & Getty On Demand offers a comprehensive exploration of the intricate legal battles surrounding Ghislaine Maxwell, the controversial art and influence of Jeffrey Epstein, and the socio-political dynamics affecting modern families and younger generations. Through engaging dialogue and insightful commentary, Armstrong and Getty provide listeners with a nuanced understanding of these pressing issues, all while weaving in personal anecdotes and humor. Whether you're deeply familiar with these topics or tuning in for the first time, this episode delivers a compelling and informative narrative.