You Got a Dirty Mouth

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: You Got a Dirty Mouth
Date: May 27, 2026

Episode Overview

In this episode, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty dive into a range of hot-button political and cultural issues, focusing primarily on recent political shakeups in Texas, the dynamics of honesty and principle in politics, law enforcement technology controversies, and the ongoing culture war rhetoric around immigration and surveillance. True to form, the discussion is fast-paced, snarky, and loaded with both irreverence and insight.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Texas Senate Primary & The Nature of Political Power

(03:20–09:48)

• Ken Paxton Defeats John Cornyn
  • The hosts dissect the GOP runoff in Texas, where the Trump-backed Ken Paxton defeated long-standing Senator John Cornyn.
  • Both Armstrong and Getty highlight Trump’s continuing kingmaker status in red-state primaries, noting how quickly the electorate shifted after his endorsement.
  • Jack: “So Trump’s power influence with the primary voters of red states, including Texas, is still enormous.” (05:31)
• Corruption & Campaign Dynamics
  • Discussion of Paxton’s reputation: “He is the most corrupt politician in America,” quoting his opponent James Talarico (04:15).
  • The possible surfacing of more opposition research on Paxton.
• Principle vs. Pragmatism in Politics
  • Cornyn criticized Trump’s proposed $2 billion compensation fund for supposed victims of the Biden DOJ, refusing to toe the party line, which the hosts posit may have sealed his fate.
  • Joe analyzes the bind for politicians: “It'd be hard for me to stand up in front of a big crowd… and say something I don't believe. But I think you have to be able to do that to get elected and then stay in office.” (11:08)
  • They reference Machiavelli and the idea that playing dirty is intrinsic to political survival.

Notable Quote:

“If you think you could be a politician and stay in office by being honest all the time. I don't think it's possible. I really do not think it's possible.” — Joe Getty (10:22)

2. The Challenge of Political Primary Voters

(11:19–12:10)

• Jack frames the dilemma: “The primary electorate is a weird and non-representative subset… I gotta get past those lunatics to get in office and do, as Charles Krauthammer put it, the things that matter.”
• They agree both parties face “purity test” pressures from activist primary voters, forcing mainstream candidates to take untenable positions in general elections.

3. Controversial California Social Programs

(12:10–13:23)

• The hosts riff on California’s new programs for agricultural workers—many of whom are undocumented—including free solar panels, refrigerators, and energy efficient windows.
• Jack provides signature sarcasm: “If you're an illegal immigrant rapist who's received a taxpayer-funded sex change operation and you're recovering at home, you want to stay cool… you gotta have the AC and solar panels. It all fits together.”

4. Immigration Protests & “Dirty Mouth” Moments

(16:39–19:26)

• Coverage of ongoing protests outside an ICE facility in Newark, New Jersey, including an incident where Senator Andy Kim was allegedly pepper sprayed.
• Fox News reporter Alexis McAdams faces hostile protesters, prompting the episode title:
  • Protester to reporter: “Nazi bitch. That's what you are.” (19:15)
  • Jack deadpans: “An eloquent argument there from one of the protesters, which I thought was great. You're a Nazi bitch.” (19:17)
• Joe rejects extreme rhetoric around immigration, “I got no time for the. You're evil if you don't believe people should be able to come here illegally. I got no time for that.” (19:26)

5. Teachers’ Unions & Radical Rhetoric

(19:36–21:26)

• Massachusetts’ new teachers’ union president is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, has decried national borders as “a construct of colonizers,” and labeled the U.S. fascist.
• Jack’s summary: “There is actually, there are serious adults who say there should be no borders. It's a construct of colonizers. There is no notion so loony that intellectuals can't embrace it.” (20:20)

6. Law Enforcement Tech: ShotSpotter & Flock Cameras

(22:01–40:00 approx.)

• Coverage of progressive resistance to gunshot detection technology (“ShotSpotter”) and AI-equipped license plate readers (“Flock cameras”) in cities like Cambridge and Austin.
• Jack: “It’s absolutely ludicrous. Wow. But this purple haired, heavily tattooed… while she talked about shot spotter stuff.” (22:38)
• Irony identified: Gun control advocates resisting tech that helps police due to disparate racial impacts.
• Joe: “I guarantee you this is an example of, of over educated white people protecting a group that would say I love the idea of you figuring out who's squeezing off gunshots in my neighborhood…” (39:37)

Notable Quote:

“Those are almost exclusively college educated white people.” — Jack Armstrong, on anti-policing activists (39:52)

7. Dynamic Pricing, Data, and Surveillance Capitalism

(27:32–33:37)

• The hosts discuss Americans’ distaste for dynamic pricing (prices changing based on demand, data, or personal profiles)—from fast food to Amazon and airlines.
• Concerns about personal data being used to determine how much you pay for goods and services: “They probably know more about your spending habits than you do.” — Joe Getty (29:30)
• Armstrong points to potential consumer objections, while acknowledging inevitability: “I'm concerned, too. I'm not sure how much I object into what but I'm definitely… ready to, to pounce.” (32:30)

8. The Privacy vs. Security Debate

(33:37–40:52)

• They circle back to whether tech like ShotSpotter and Flock cameras improves public safety or slides us toward totalitarian surveillance.
• Jack and Joe spar playfully about whether apprehending dangerous criminals with surveillance tech justifies intrusions on liberty.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “From his endorsement of Ken Paxton to the White House ballroom, the President is putting his own priorities ahead of his parties. Well, Trump sees himself as the party because he is.” — Jack Armstrong (06:54)
• “I don't have any choice… gotta play this game to get the power to do the things you care about.” — Joe Getty (11:44)
• “It just doesn't make any sense. The other thing I wanted to highlight, and I'm sure you noticed it, was how there's always the appeals of it makes them unsafe, it puts them at risk, it brings danger… Stop it with your safety worship.” — Jack Armstrong (39:02)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Texas Primary Analysis: 03:20–09:48
• Principle vs. Political Survival: 10:22–12:10
• California’s New Social Benefits: 12:10–13:23
• Immigration Protests & "Nazi Bitch" Moment: 16:39–19:26
• Radical Teachers’ Union Rhetoric: 19:36–21:26
• Ebola Outbreak News: 26:11–27:32
• Dynamic Pricing Concerns: 27:32–33:37
• Flock Cameras, ShotSpotter, and Surveillance State: 33:37–40:52
• Closing Banter on Fancy Cars: 43:54–45:41

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Final Thoughts & Tone

The hosts wrap up the episode with their trademark blend of humor and cynicism:

• Quips about neighbor’s luxury cars and the new electric Ferrari (“Take the prancing horse off it. At least I don't have to worry about the Chinese copying this one... It's so crappy the Chinese wouldn't want to copy it.” — former Ferrari exec, quoted at 44:38)
• Musings about dynamic pricing and pizza cravings (“If AI can figure out how hungry you are at the moment that you order the pizza, or drunk…” — Joe & Jack, 46:17)
• A tongue-in-cheek hypothetical about punching people in keffiyehs as a "thought experiment."

Distinctly irreverent and skeptical, Armstrong & Getty remain committed to exposing what they view as the hypocrisies and excesses of both right and left, with a sturdy sense that the system is rigged and few are truly innocent.

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For listeners seeking a brisk, opinionated overview of American culture and politics, this episode delivers both insight and entertainment, unfiltered—and occasionally, as the title suggests, profane.

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And now here's Armstrong and Getty. He's a threat to our prosperity and Texas economy. He said you can't be a Christian if you support the oil and gas industries. He wants to raise your taxes and he won't do a single thing to lower cost for you and your family. And finally, he's a threat to our

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I mean, he's a vegan who thinks God is non binary and that there's

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

It's hard to imagine someone more radical than that. That's the not too enthusiastic Ken Paxton who won last night over John Cornyn, who had been the senator in Texas for a lot of years and he got knocked out by somebody in his own party. And now Ken Paxton's going to run against this James Talarico dude who said this about Ken Paxton last night. Ken Paxton embodies the broken political system that we're running against. He is the most corrupt politician in America. Three years ago tomorrow he was impeached by his own party for using his public office, his position of public trust to enrich himself and his donors at our expense. And that is exactly the problem in our politics. It's puppet politicians who serve themselves and their billionaire mega donors instead of serving us. It's why we can't afford anything. It's why we can't get ahead no matter how hard we work. The system is rigged by by corrupt politicians like Ken Paxton. So some believe this is a great chance for the Democrats to flip a perennial red seat blue in the US Senate.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's at least a chance. Yeah. The race went from what is the term likely Republican to lean Republican in the Cook Political Report, for instance.

[Joe Getty]

Uh huh. And I was reading somewhere that there might be more oppo on Paxton to come out that they've been holding on to in his very colorful life or

[Jack Armstrong]

the guy that, yes, there's going to be stuff. Yeah. You know, taking a totally non judgmental look at this for the moment, then I will judge so judgingly, but give me a minute. In the initial vote, Cornyn narrowly edged Paxton 42% to 40%. But since neither one of them cleared the required 50% off 50%, they required a runoff. So it was barely cornered over Paxton. But then when Trump, at the very end of things, weighed in with the endorsement of Paxton Paxton, it went 2/3, 1/3 for Paxton. So Trump's power influence with the primary voters of red states, including Texas, is still enormous.

[Joe Getty]

Well, Cornyn, last week, to his credit, and maybe the end of his political career, was asked about Trump's $2 billion fund to give out to people abused by Biden or whatever that fund is. Allegedly wasn't real enthusiastic about it. Cornyn said, yeah, I'm not a big fan of that. I don't think that's what we need to be doing. And that Trump didn't dig that. And that's when he came out against his opponent. I mean, for his opponent.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the RNC is distressed because they know it's going to be an enormously expensive race when it could have been more or less open and shut with corn and running. But that's the way it goes. The Free Press is asking, is Donald Trump tired of winning? Here's where the judgment gets judgmenty. From his endorsement of Ken Paxton to the White House ballroom, the President is putting his own priorities ahead of his parties. Well, Trump sees himself as the party because he is.

[Joe Getty]

That's why he sees it that way. Interesting thing, politics and whether many of us could ever actually be politicians. So John Cornyn, for instance, sitting US Senator. There's hardly a better political job on planet earth than being a US Senator. I think I'd rather be that than President of the United States in terms of being able to, you know, do a job for a long time and have an impact.

[Jack Armstrong]

That'd be.

[Joe Getty]

That'd be pretty cool job being a US Senator.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're only up for election every six years and you got the power of incumbency and the purse and the rest of it. Yeah, it's pretty good.

[Joe Getty]

He voted with Trump over 90% of the time through a term and a half. That's pretty loyal. But when he was asked last week about this pretty ridiculous fund that Trump came up with, he said, yeah, I'm not a fan. Would you have been enthusiastically in favor of it, justifying it? To yourself by saying, it's important that I'm in the US Senate as a guy who can kind of hold the line for what's right and what's wrong.

[Jack Armstrong]

As a counterbalance.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, as a counterbalance. Or do I say what is clearly, pretty clearly true? No, I'm not a fan of this whole unprecedented $2 billion fund that the president gets a chance to spend however he wants. Which do you do there? I could see justifying it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

You know what? I'm better off in the Senate than this Paxton guy. Or what if he loses and there's a Democrat? We're better off with me saying nice things about this fund and keeping my job. He didn't work.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, you gotta be quick on your feet and say, hey, I understand the idea. A lot of folks were injured by the weaponization of the Justice Department under Biden, and there ought to be some sort of compensation. Then behind the scenes, you're like, we can't do this. We cannot do this.

[Joe Getty]

You do a Gavin Newsom, you say, well, it's about fairness there but for the grace of God, and nobody has any idea what you actually mean.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. Which is the more principled thing to do? Because now Ken Paxton might be in the Senate and he's a much less principled guy than Cornyn, in my opinion.

[Joe Getty]

Well, a lot of Republicans last week were getting leaned on pretty hard to not endorse Trump's $2 billion fund. Like, come on, this is too much. Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Are you going to pretend this is okay? And at least last week he couldn't pretend it was okay, and now he's

[Jack Armstrong]

out of a job early in the show every day. Our one. The second. Is it the second? No, it's the fourth segment. Last segment of hour one. We do the freedom loving quote of the day, among other things. And today's was passed along by Sergio, who was reading the 48 laws power by Machiavelli. And interestingly, our quote of the freedom loving quote of the day today was a man that strives to be good his entire life gets swallowed up by those not so naive.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Yeah. So by.

[Jack Armstrong]

Basically, I'm so Machiavellian, in my opinion, but thank you.

[Joe Getty]

The reason I brought up that example is if you think you could be a politician and stay in office by being honest all the time. I don't think it's possible. I really do not think it's possible. Especially I don't know if it ever has been. I don't know if it ever has been. Reading that book about John Adams and I mean the very first term of Washington's presidency, I mean there was all kinds of stuff going on that, that, that, that reeks of today. Yeah. Washington held back announcing whether he was going to run again into the. Till the very end. So they wouldn't have much time to consolidate, you know, somebody on the other side. I mean just, just things like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. That's an interesting question.

[Joe Getty]

I don't think you can be. And, and it'd be difficult for me because I, it'd be hard for me to stand up in front of a big crowd of people cheering and say something I don't believe. But I think you have to be able to do that to get elected and then stay in office.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's your, your moral self defense. The primary electorate, the primary voting electorate is a weird and non representative subset of the electorate as a whole. I gotta get past those lunatics to get in office and do, as Charles Krauthammer put it, the things that matter.

[Joe Getty]

Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't have any choice.

[Joe Getty]

Right. That was the point of his book, the things that matter. You gotta play this game to get the power to do the things you care about. The Democrats have it even worse because you're going to have a whole bunch of people that need to raise their hand for free sex changes for illegals to try to get the nomination.

[Jack Armstrong]

Illegal rapists. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

To then run in a general population that thinks that's a nuts position. All right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Real or that reminded me of something real or parody. The state of Cali Cal Unicornia

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[Joe Getty]

I think I read that yesterday. Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's real. It's real.

[Joe Getty]

Of course.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's part of a giant multi zillion dollar program to aid illegal immigrant agricultural workers. Well, agricultural workers in general, half to three quarters of whom are illegal immigrants with having refrigerators and what is it? Free solar panels, Refrigerators and energy efficient windows to low income farm workers, including illegal immigrants. Many gotta pay for your solar panels, fools. Right.

[Joe Getty]

Many millions of dollars will be handed out in the name of equity or climate change or some other bs.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well if you're an illegal immigrant rapist who's received a taxpayer funded sex change operation and you're recovering at home, you want to stay cool, you gotta have the AC and you gotta have the solar panels. It all fits together. We can take him one without the other. It'd be cruel.

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of protests and now clashes erupting outside an ICE facility in Newark, New Jersey. At one point, Democratic Senator Andy Kim was in the middle of the chaos

[Joe Getty]

and said that he was pepper sprayed during a confrontation.

[Jack Armstrong]

He later posted this image showing a volunteer treating his eyes after the incident.

[Joe Getty]

I didn't know the ICE kerfuffles were still going on.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, this one's in New Jersey, outside of a facility where they're demanding that everybody inside be turned loose because they've complained about the quality of the food. That was like my entire educational career. Nobody, nobody was picketing outside my high school saying, how are these guys supposed

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to eat this crap?

[Jack Armstrong]

It's gotten violent and nutty. Luckily for that senator, he claims to have been pepper sprayed in the eyes because that establishes his bona fides as a victim and a brave warrior, which is very important. Now, Tom Holman, who's been keeping a much lower profile than ICE Barbie, says, we're not done.

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I don't care about poll numbers.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm not running a popularity contest. I got people saying we're not wrestling enough. People.

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You know, I agree, we're not.

[Jack Armstrong]

President Trump promised mass deportation, and that's

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That's why he's sitting in the Oval Office. American people want it, they're going to get it. You know, we had Sarah Isger on the show earlier and we really I really like her commentary on lots of different issues, and I remember her talking about this particular issue once on how there'll be some hits in the polling during the ugliness of this. But at the end of the day, you get to Election Day and it's a year ago that all this happened, a lot of people are going to be really happy that a whole bunch of illegals got kicked out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, I would agree. Yeah, absolutely true. So Alexis McAdams, who had so cute, was reporting for Fox News from the fracas wearing a plain T shirt and no mic flag. That's industry talk for the little sign on your microphone that says who you're with. So she's more or less anonymous, but somebody entered or recognized her. Apparently there is some strong language in this clip. If you are easily offended. What are you listening to us for? Here's how it sounded. You are a protester who's been out here and you have a dirty mouth. But okay, so that's just what we deal with. So just for people that want to know what it's like to cover these protests, it's constant with this. This is what these people do. They want people who are in this country illegally to be released out onto the streets. DHS says that's what they're gonna not doing. So we'll see.

[Joe Getty]

Nazi bitch. That's what you are.

[Jack Armstrong]

And then the anchor says, an eloquent argument there from one of the protesters, which I thought was great. Y you're a Nazi bitch.

[Joe Getty]

I have no time for the. You're evil if you don't believe people should be able to come here illegally. I got no time for that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, yeah? Yeah. Well, where is that story? Hang on a second. I can find it real quickly. I'd meant to get to this earlier. There we go. Let's meet the new leader of Massachusetts top teachers union, a Democratic Socialists of America member, woman, of course, who said the US Is fascist. Borders are for colonizers. Jack, you colonizer. Among other things. Let's see. Here you go. Let's see. New leader of the teachers union. How interesting. Is there anything more traditional and fundamental to America than good public schools teaching kids to read, write and do arithmetic and to love their country and to become active citizens?

[Joe Getty]

No.

[Jack Armstrong]

She's a longtime left wing activist who has denounced the United States as a fascist oligarchy, objected to national borders as a construct of colonizers, and pushed resolutions condemning Israel as genocidal. Let's see. She, along with the. What's her name? Let's get her name right.

[Joe Getty]

Deb,

[Jack Armstrong]

along with the MTA's newly elected president, Matt Bach, is a member of the Educators for a Democratic Union, the MTA's progressive caucus, which works to, quote, build a social justice movement into our union and communities and dismantle structures of oppression within our union. As well as other institutions. So there is actually, there are serious adults who say there should be no borders. It's a construct of colonizers. There is no notion so loony that intellectuals can't embrace it. Right. Unbelievable. Our teachers unions

[Joe Getty]

just came across a really good snarky response to where we are with the whole Iran deal. Trump's convening his cabinet as we speak. Supposed to be coming up with an idea. Here's the snarky response. Iran deal nearly finalized. Last sticking points are Iran's insistence on destroying the west, killing all infidels and imposing Islam on the world. Fingers crossed.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. Just got to work out the details.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, you got changed. Their entire raison d' etre is all.

[Jack Armstrong]

You know, I was looking, I was watching a. What was it? I asked for audio of it. This gal who was protesting against. Oh, oh, it was the, the, the shot spotter microphones that they're using in. In cities so that if there's gunfire, murder, attempted murder, the cops can figure out where it is quickly and get there to try to catch the evildoers. And how in progressive cities, they're trying to tear that stuff down because it disproportionately affects gunmen of color.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I know, it's. It's absolutely ludicrous. Wow. But this purple haired, heavily tattooed. I have nothing against tattoos. She was, of course, wearing a keffiyeh scarf while she talked about shot spotter stuff. And I'm looking at some of the imagery produced by this Massachusetts Teachers Union gal and her cohort, including somebody with an automatic weapon wearing a keffiyeh and a mask. What was taken by force can only be returned by force.

[Joe Getty]

Nice.

[Jack Armstrong]

The inevitable kaffir, the omnicause, the eternal omnicus. It's all just Marxism.

[Joe Getty]

Trump just put out a new truth truth social post around the whole war thing. Maybe we'll get to that. We got other stuff. We'll have a big final half hour. Hope you can stay here.

[Jack Armstrong]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

members seeking their loved ones bodies.

[Joe Getty]

Mass funerals for Ebola victims.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yipes. Oh boy. And in that report, they actually showed a picture of that, the mutant virus. And for some reason it was just so chilling because it's this simple little twisty looking microscopic thingy, but it wants to reproduce and it wants to take over your body to do that.

[Joe Getty]

So we have talked before about dynamic pricing. Is that what they call it?

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Is that what the term is? Yeah. Dynamic pricing, that's where prices change in all kinds of different ways. There's the Wendy's near me that the same burger that costs four bucks at three in the afternoon costs five bucks at six thirty in the evening because they think you want it more. Supply and demand, et cetera, et cetera. Sure. There's a new poll out. I guess I could have jumped to that. 70% of Americans are concerned about dynamic pricing. I don't know what that means. Particularly the kind where, you know the ads we do for Incogni about getting your data off of servers. So much of my data, your data, everybody's data is out there and they have so much information about me, including how much money you make or how much money you spend on various things or your pain threshold for different things that you buy. And they could easily figure out that a guy like me doesn't even pay attention to what the donut costs at the donut store. Oh yeah, I just click my phone on it and walk out the door. I don't know what it even cost. Or you know, you're on Amazon and it charges me this much for this, but charges somebody else this much for that. They know on for me I'm not going to buy it at that price, but somebody else might.

[Jack Armstrong]

I remember when I first found out that airlines, if you sign into your app, or you're always signed into your app, they're like, oh, Joe's not price sensitive, he's schedule sensitive. So don't worry about the price. Yeah, go ahead and jack that up by 75 bucks or whatever.

[Joe Getty]

Or he's in this income bracket so we can charge that much.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't then add facial recognition to that stuff. You walk in the store and they're like, oh yeah, Here he comes.

[Joe Getty]

I have to assume that everything's going to be like that in the near future and there's no stopping it. And why wouldn't they do it? The only reason they didn't do it in the past was they couldn't. It's similar to, of walking on a car lot and the guy looks you over at your shoes and your watch and thinks he can afford this car. Or as opposed to he can't afford this car. I'll show him this car. Well, it's basically now Amazon or Wendy's or whoever doing that for everybody and not just looking at you. They got actual data on how much money you make or how much money you spend eating out, all kinds of stuff. They probably know more about your spending habits than you do.

[Jack Armstrong]

The free market is a wonderful, smoothly functioning exchange of information. And I don't object to this. I think it's practically inevitable. The one thing that pissed me off though is they gave the example of dynamic pricing at a grocery store and I put a dozen eggs in my basket and then by the time I'm to the checkout there's 25 cents more. A dozen or whatever. See that strikes me as bait and switch. Or not even bait and switch, just skullduggery of some sort.

[Joe Getty]

I don't know. Mal Seasons.

[Jack Armstrong]

I won't have it. That's right.

[Joe Getty]

Well, how, how would that. Well, I guess that would make sense if the price of eggs goes up at 6:30 in the evening because people are different shopping habits at that point and you put them in your basket at 6:28, by the time you got up there, they're more expensive. Expensive, yeah, it could happen, I suppose.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that'd be uncool. And the other, I mean, obviously there are some downsides as a consumer, but you know, God, the airline.

[Joe Getty]

One makes perfect sense to me, especially if they have some sort of data about your, you know, where you are in life, income wise. Sure, absolutely. We can charge an extra 50 bucks. He's not even gonna notice.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anybody else got an airline tied credit card? Yeah, yeah. I'm thinking they may have more data on you than you realize.

[Joe Getty]

All right, I have a Southwest card. Of course. They know everything about me.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, dude spends money like a lunatic. Just price it however you want. He won't. He won't blanche. But I was thinking, you know, back to the, like the grocery store. I don't know, I'm picturing going to buy some running shoes or something like that. Now it's very easy to compare prices. The Internet has really helped in that obviously. And so your chances of getting ripped up, rift ripped off are much less. But if the dynamic pricing is going on and I see, all right, Big Five's got these shoes for 120 bucks or their dick sporting goods or whatever. They got them for 1:35. I'm going to big five, then by the time I get to big five, they're 140 bucks or they're 140 bucks for you.

[Joe Getty]

They wouldn't be for someone else.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, right, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

So anyway, 70% of Americans are concerned about surveillance pricing, jacking up the cost of goods. That would be when they have have info about you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I'm concerned too. I'm not sure how much I object into what but I'm definitely, you know, on the balls of my feet leaning forward at the waist ready to, to pounce.

[Joe Getty]

I don't think, I think it makes perfectly good sense you would do it too if you ran a store and there. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I don't think there's any stopping it.

[Jack Armstrong]

And you know, if I was a real populist, I could make the argument that when, you know, when Joe Rich leaves and poor Jim walks in, you'd think, well yeah, we can sell it to poor Jim for a 2% margin. That's all he's got. And rich Joe just walked out and you know, we're flush.

[Joe Getty]

The algorithm fueled scheme exploits customers personal data to charge different people varying prices for the same product. It's a subset of dynamic pricing. Yeah. So I suppose in the future my son gets a credit card. He's out there working as he's going to this summer. I'll have him buy everything at his income level and his card and his what they know about him. Get the cheaper price on you, you buy the airline tickets in the hotel room.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll venmo you. Don't worry. I will eventually. So speaking of technology, I mentioned the shot spotter thing. This is too good to pass up. And Michael, we're talking about durr clip 11. It's from Cambridge, Massachusetts. But Nellie Bowles is writing in the Free Press about how in Austin. Well, what she's writing about is how all the gun control people really don't want gun control because they're against anybody getting arrested, how crazy that is. And if they arrest you, they won't prosecute you for gun enhancements that they got passed if it leads to inequity. But she points out in Austin, three people went on a 24 hour crime spree stealing cars and shooting at a lot of people in a lot of places. I mean horrifically dangerous. Dangerous. They evaded a 200 officer manhunt that was assisted by helicopters and dogs. Only to be found immediately when they entered the town of Manor, Texas. Why? Because Manor uses flock cameras, which Austin recently banned. The flock cameras are AI assisted license plate readers.

[Joe Getty]

I don't like that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I know you don't. And yet the dangerous baddies were apprehended.

[Joe Getty]

That's no excuse.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's a perfectly good explanation of why this is useful technology. Jack is anti law and order.

[Joe Getty]

Perfectly useless excuse to live in a totalitarian surveillance state.

[Jack Armstrong]

What if there are carefully maintained standards for when you can access the data? Don't make flappy lip noises at me, sir.

[Joe Getty]

It's going to enforce those or make sure that's happening.

[Jack Armstrong]

Nobody. It'll become a police state. But it is ironic where we're screaming

[Joe Getty]

so far that direction so fast. As you saw in that time. Because this is an obvious one. You could. I used. I used to work at bars. I worked at this country bar for four years. And half the people leaving that bar were drunk at 2 o' clock in the morning every Friday and Saturday night. And I always thought why don't they just set up a DUI checkpoint right there? They get. But they. But we don't do that. You could. You could do that lots of places all the time. You could pull over everybody after midnight on a Friday night and you'd get lots of drunks that way. But we don't do that for a variety of reasons.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right. Liberty. Unless you give the government an excuse to intrude on your liberty.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, but when it's.

[Jack Armstrong]

But.

[Joe Getty]

Well, for whatever reason we do. If there's this whole license plate reader thing or now AI license plate reader would basically pull over every single car to see if they've done anything wrong.

[Jack Armstrong]

So you're soft on crime. So getting back to the. The gun thing and shot spotter, which you know, I want your opinion on this as a liberal. Clearly. So shotspotters. This system that so much fun. It says the system that detects gunshots and alerts cops so that presumably the gunshots will stop. As Nelly Bowles writes, the Cambridge City council just voted five to two to end the city's use of shotspott. Uh, it's basically because it turns out that most of the gunshots are detected in black neighborhoods. Which is racist somehow. So now we're pro gun rights. Now we must allow natural gun violence to unfold and not interfere. If the neighborhood residents want to shoot each other one day, it's none of the cops business. Some shots shouldn't be spotted, she writes, but here's a bit of an edit of some of the testifiers at the Cambridge City Council meeting. All of them youngsters, couple of them sporting effing keffiyehs.

[Joe Getty]

I do not consent for my vulnerable neighbors in our welcome community sanctuary city

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to be at risk and to make sure we hear from neighbors more directly impacted than I am. I will also be sharing a recorded note from a Putnam Gardens resident. He's unable to be here, but feels that ShotSpotter surveillance puts him and his family at risk.

And this puts black and brown communities

[Joe Getty]

in Cambridge in very real danger.

[Jack Armstrong]

The BIPOC members of the Cambridge community are more likely to be recorded by ShotSpotter and thus are more vulnerable to potential abuses of the data and recordings collected by the company, as well as dangerous over policing. Surveillance does not equal safety. We do not need microphones on top of buildings listening to every loud noise in the vicinity and sending in police in order to be safe.

[Joe Getty]

I like the idea that so the argument that people make regularly of, well, I don't care if they pull over everybody. I'm not doing anything wrong. You just haven't read enough history or whatever that that goes a bad direction. But in the case of firing off

[Jack Armstrong]

guns, right, that might work.

[Joe Getty]

I'm not too worried about the shot spotters because when's the last time I fired off a gun in town? Never. And the likelihood that I ever will, probably not.

[Jack Armstrong]

I like the one gal who said that the investigations were disproportionately affecting bipolar

[Joe Getty]

neighborhoods where they shoot guns.

[Jack Armstrong]

In other words, the people shooting guns tend to be, you know, ethnic this or that or the well, what do you want us to do about that? But that's how perverse and twisted the whole disparate impact philosophy it is. It just doesn't make any sense. The other thing I wanted to highlight, and I'm sure you noticed it, y', all, was how there's always the appeals of it makes them unsafe, it puts them at risk, it brings danger to they are unsafe, blah, blah, blah. Stop it with your safety worship. Don't, don't squeeze off shots at each other. You want to be more safe, quit shooting each other.

[Joe Getty]

I guarantee you this is an example of, of over educated white people protecting a group that would say I love the idea of you figuring out who's squeezing off gunshots in my neighborhood and you arrest them and then I don't have to worry about it anymore. So bring it on.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Especially because I'm terrified to testify against them because they might hurt me and my family. So yeah, some good shotspotting evidence and getting arrested in the act. Sounds great to me. Yeah, absolutely. Those are almost exclusively college educated white people.

[Joe Getty]

We have the data on that one. Defund the police was a thing. The neighborhoods where they got lots of crime. They didn't want to defund the police. You want to in your nice neighborhood. You, you think I don't need police and it would make it better. I think I do need police.

[Jack Armstrong]

Now. This is purely a thought experiment and I know we have to take a break because I am a man of peace. I abhor political violence, that sort of thing. But it's a, it's a thought experiment. If I were to just automatically punch everyone I see, like rocking the keffiyeh or the keffiyeh scarf, and then assessed at the end of the day how many of those deserved a good punching, what would the percentage be punching coming?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, exactly. It's up to you in your own

[Jack Armstrong]

heart and mind, folks. I'm just asking the questions in your own heart.

[Joe Getty]

We will finish strong next Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

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didn't hear our interview with Sarah Isger the brilliant Sarah Isger about her new book, you ought to check it out via podcast Armstrong and Getty on Demand if you subscribe to Auto downloads and it'll be available as a an extra large but super stimulating chat about her book about the Supreme Court last branch standing. So enjoyable.

[Joe Getty]

You brought us the news yesterday and I had seen this article about the new Ferrari. The new electric Ferrari that's out. It's about $650,000. Good looking car. It's electric. It's the first electric Ferrari.

[Jack Armstrong]

I was gonna buy one for cash but it's 650. I think I'll finance maybe 200,000 called the Luce.

[Joe Getty]

The Ferrari Luce. Well not everybody likes it, including the guy who used to run Ferrari Ferrari. Some old Italian he said I cannot say what I really think it would harm Ferrari. We risk the destruction of a legend. So sorry. Take the prancing horse off it. At least I don't have to worry about the Chinese copying this one. Oh so crappy the Chinese wouldn't want to copy it, he says of the new Ferrari.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, a lot of people said it looks like a Nissan Leaf which is like, you know, a lot less, man.

[Joe Getty]

I got a neighbor who's got a Ferrari and a super fancy Porsche and a Cadillac V with the motor and. I don't know what he does for a living, but anyway, his Ferrari is badass. Most of them leave me kind of cold, but that's a good looking car he's got around him. I don't know what he does. I'm always peering in his windows. Seems to live alone. He's got a set. He's got a grand piano in his living room.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

I'm thinking he's childless and single.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm thinking affectation or does he play?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know, the piano.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. If you're super, super into cars and that's like your thing, you'd still have to have a hell of a lot of money to have all those cars. But yeah, I just wonder what he

[Joe Getty]

does for a living.

[Jack Armstrong]

Tell him there's no way he earned that. He stole it.

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That's right.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's what AOC says. Huh.

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Thought I'm strong.

[Joe Getty]

Here's your host for Final Thoughts, Joe Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

I love that so much. Well done, whoever did that. Let's get a final thought from the whole truncated crew to wrap up the show for the day. There he is, pressing the buttons in the control room. Michelangelo, Michael, what's your final thoughts? You know, when I'm craving a good pizza, I'm the perfect victim for dynamic pricing. I might be willing to miss a car payment, you know? Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

I'm thinking if AI can figure out how hungry you are at the moment that you order the pizza, or drunk.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, if they can price it, like after you've already smelled it, that's it.

[Joe Getty]

Can you imagine if you're drunk?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, this guy's drunk.

[Joe Getty]

He'll pay anything for this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that's insidious. Jack, a final thought for us.

[Joe Getty]

You got a super, super, super fancy car like my neighbor with the Ferrari.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I don't know how you park

[Joe Getty]

it anywhere without worrying about it all the time. I'd be just. Just horrified by the idea of getting a door ding or something.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, Yeah. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Somebody getting in my car and spilling a pop or something.

[Jack Armstrong]

My final thought is, must be nice to be Don Junior. You get rid of your old squeeze. And, hey, you have your father, the president, send her to Europe and get her out of the country. Kim Guilfoy posting that she was at the ribbon cutting For a new McDonald's in Greece the other day. She's the new ambassador to Greece.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Just get her on the other side of the planet so I don't have to deal with her.

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Right?

[Jack Armstrong]

Oof.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Yeti wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

[Jack Armstrong]

We'll see you tomorrow.

[Joe Getty]

God bless America. All right, I just got one final question.

[Jack Armstrong]

Have you been a good little Nazi?

[Joe Getty]

We said yes. Yeah, you absolutely did. And it not.

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[Joe Getty]

Lgdp, lgt, lbg. It's a little too much talky dog.

[Jack Armstrong]

Blah blah blah, blah blah blah. No thank you. In Idaho, Andrew Crapochet. Crapochet. Can I say his name on the air?

[Joe Getty]

Pretty name on that high note. Thank you all very much.

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