You Gotta Score a Goal!

Summary

Podcast Summary: Armstrong & Getty On Demand – "You Gotta Score a Goal!" (July 20, 2026, iHeartPodcasts)

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Main Theme

This episode revolves around Armstrong & Getty's reactions to the 2026 FIFA World Cup Final. The hosts share their evolving opinions on soccer, discuss the worldwide popularity of the sport versus American football, review the star-studded (and much-criticized) halftime show, and reflect on the experience of live performances in front of massive crowds. The tone blends dry humor, playful ribbing, and candid observations about both the soccer match and its cultural context.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. A New Appreciation for Soccer

• Armstrong admits to catching "World Cup fever" after a lifetime of mocking soccer, this year he got into the World Cup final—even finding a 0-0 match before extra time “very exciting.”

  “After a lifetime of mocking soccer and people who watch it, I got into the World cup this year… it was very exciting. I thought the fact that it was 0-0 going into extra time was exciting.”
  — Armstrong (01:55)

• Getty, a longtime soccer watcher, finds finals frustratingly conservative:

  “World cup finals make me insane. Because they’re so conservative. I find them boring. It’s like watching...basketball in the four corners era.”
  — Getty (02:22)

2. Soccer vs. American Football: Global and Domestic Perspectives

• The hosts marvel at soccer’s global reach, juxtaposed with America’s singular devotion to its own version of football.

  “Practically every high school in the world probably has a soccer team. How many high schools...Are there any high schools in Spain where anybody plays our version of football with pads and helmets?”
  — Armstrong (03:14)

• Getty notes American football in Europe is rare and generally an expat-driven novelty:

  “There are [football teams], but they're very, very few...it gets written up in the New York Times.”
  — Getty (03:46)

• They discuss the idea of renaming American football for clarity, jokingly suggesting aggressive rebranding tactics:

  “How about you change the name of your sport or we’ll bomb you back to the stone age.”
  — Armstrong (07:57)

3. Broadcast & Pop Culture: National Anthems & Halftime Spectacle

• Jennifer Hudson’s national anthem performance receives respect for her vocal prowess.

  “[She] is an amazing vocalist...some people’s sinuses and throats are shaped in such a way that it makes a pleasing noise when they sing.”
  — Getty (05:19)

• Tom Cruise’s dramatic pre-game narration is mocked for overblown language about soccer’s global unity.

  “It’s a soccer tournament. Take it easy.”
  — Getty (06:01) “This is the part I wanted to hear from Tom Cruise.”
  — Armstrong (06:11)

Notable Tom Cruise Quote:

“These stories, now, these stories belong to each and every one of us...Let us celebrate each other. This is football. This is unity.”
— Tom Cruise (06:14)

• On the term "football":

  “The most popular sport, the most popular TV show, the most popular, really, anything in the United States is football. But we don’t mean that sport. So calling something else football seems pretty crazy.”
  — Armstrong (06:52)

4. Halftime Show Mayhem

• Criticism of the World Cup Halftime Show: ABC report mentions online reviews calling the show "bizarre and disjointed," featuring Madonna, Shakira, Chris Martin, the Muppets, and Ted Lasso (Jason Sudeikis) introducing Justin Bieber.

  “Congratulations to the World cup final. You have risen to the level of the Super Bowl where everybody complains about your halftime show.”
  — Armstrong (09:37)

• Getty’s take on halftime entertainment:

  “What are we doing here? What is this exercise again? I’ve called for this for ages: a marching band or a boxing match or a hockey game. Anything but pop stars of the moment.”
  — Getty (09:54)

• Jokes about Madonna’s performance and age:

  “When you’re getting free medical care from the government because you qualify it by age, you should no longer wear thigh highs in public...Give up the sex symbol thing.”
  — Armstrong (11:16)

5. Live Performance Nerves—Big Crowds vs. Intimate Rooms

• Discussion about Justin Bieber’s solo acoustic performance and whether it’s more nerve-wracking to play for massive crowds or tiny audiences.

  “Standing in the middle of the field...with an acoustic guitar, I would not be able to get my hands to work, you know? I couldn’t get my fingers to function.”
  — Armstrong (12:31)

• Both hosts agree smaller crowds can be more intimidating due to the intense focus.

  “The giant crowds are way easier because you can’t focus on the individual bored or angry person. But I’ve played, like in bars where there’s 20 people and you can...hear their individual sighs. Yeah, it’s way harder.”
  — Armstrong (13:20)

• Getty quotes Joni Mitchell:

  “The easiest relationship in the world is 10,000 people. One is the hardest.”
  — Getty (14:24)

6. World Cup Final Climax: The Goal

• The winning goal for Spain finally arrives after a long, tense match:

  “That’s how the whole thing ended after 125 minutes...No scoring for most of that.” — Armstrong (17:54)

  • Call of the moment:

    “It’s free. It’s a goal. Will that be the goal that wins Spain their second World cup title?”
    — Tom Cruise (18:08)

• Stats highlight Spain’s dominance:

  “There were 16 shots on goal by Spain, and that number was—let me look at this—0 by Argentina. 0. They didn’t get one kick at the goalie.”
  — Armstrong (18:27)

• Getty’s frustration as an Argentina supporter:

  “Oh, for God’s sake, would you guys do something?”
  — Getty (18:50)

7. Jerseys, Fandom, and American Engagement

• Armstrong reflects on the oddity of nearly buying an Argentina jersey just for the occasion, and both marvel at the broad display of team jerseys among U.S. fans (often with tongue-in-cheek jibes about patriotism).

  “People just going to the sports bars and stuff like that, wearing jerseys like you do when you go to watch a big sporting event.”
  — Armstrong (19:51) “You ought to be jailed for it...You are a foreign agent. An unregistered foreign agent.”
  — Getty (20:07)

• On the difficulty of defending soccer to skeptics:

  “I got no comebacks for anybody who says I’m supposed to watch for an hour and a half and nobody scored a goal. It’s hard to argue.”
  — Armstrong (20:21) “One team is utterly dominant and the score, 0 0. This game is broken. You need to fix the rules.”
  — Getty (20:32)

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• Armstrong on newfound soccer fandom:
  “After a lifetime of mocking soccer...I got into the World Cup this year...” (01:55)
• Getty on conservative finals:
  “World cup finals make me insane. Because they’re so conservative.” (02:22)
• Tom Cruise’s preachy narration:
  “These stories belong to each and every one of us...This is unity.” (06:14)
• Armstrong on naming sports:
  “We probably ought to...rename our sport because calling it football is kind of dumb.” (07:25)
• Getty on halftime spectacles:
  “What are we doing here? What is this exercise again?” (09:54)
• Armstrong on Madonna’s act:
  “When you’re getting free medical care from the government because you qualify by age, you should no longer wear thigh highs in public.” (11:16)
• Armstrong on crowd nerves:
  “Giant crowds are way easier...bars where there’s 20 people...way harder.” (13:20)
• Getty quoting Joni Mitchell:
  “The easiest relationship in the world is 10,000 people. One is the hardest.” (14:24)
• Game-winning goal call:
  “It’s free. It’s a goal. Will that be the goal that wins Spain their second World cup title?” (18:08, Tom Cruise)
• Armstrong on fan jerseys:
  “People just going to the sports bars...wearing jerseys like you do when you go to watch a big sporting event.” (19:51)
• Getty (joking) on unpatriotic fandom:
  “You ought to be jailed for it...unregistered foreign agent.” (20:07)
• Getty on soccer criticism:
  “This game is broken. You need to fix the rules.” (20:32)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:41 - Armstrong's rediscovered enjoyment of soccer
• 02:22 - Getty’s frustration with conservative play
• 04:51 - Commentary on Jennifer Hudson’s anthem
• 06:14 - Tom Cruise’s narration, introduction of unity theme
• 09:23 - Halftime show criticism
• 10:26 - Debate on entertainment at halftime shows
• 11:16 - Jokes about Madonna's performance and image
• 12:31 - Reflection on stage fright in large vs. small crowds
• 14:24 - “10,000 people is easy, one is hard” (Joni Mitchell quote)
• 17:54 - Summary of the match and lead-up to the goal
• 18:08 - Spain's game-winning World Cup goal (audio clip)
• 20:07 - Joking about “unregistered foreign agents” wearing other countries’ jerseys

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Tone

The conversation is lively, irreverent, and self-aware, blending sports analysis, cultural critique, and personal anecdotes. Armstrong & Getty neither take soccer (nor themselves) too seriously, frequently using sarcasm and light self-deprecation.

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This episode is a must-listen for fans interested in cultural differences around sports, soccer’s slow but steady rise in American interest, and the spectacle that is modern sports entertainment—served with an ample side of Armstrong & Getty’s trademark banter.

Transcript

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[Armstrong]

I've been watching for two hours. You gotta score a goal. It's one more thing. Armstrong and Getty. One more thing. Oddly enough, I didn't feel that way. I don't know.

[Tony Ayo]

I don't know.

[Armstrong]

I guess I learned enough about socce. I got caught up in World cup fever or something like that. After a lifetime of mocking soccer and people who watch it, I got into the World cup this year and like I was. I wasn't sitting there watching it, but I had it on in the background the entire time, the World cup final, and thought it was very exciting. I thought the fact that it was 00 going into extra time was exciting. I wasn't thinking it was dull.

[Getty]

It's funny how we've crossed paths or, you know, taken opposite sides on this because I've watched soccer for years and years. Years and World cup finals make me insane. Because they're so conservative. I find them boring. It's like Watching, you know, basketball in the four core, what they call it, the four corners era, where they would just, you know, get the ball and play keep away to run out the clock. And that's why they instituted the shot clock and stuff like that. But, you know, obviously the world disagrees with me.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, we don't need to get into the X's and O's of soccer, I suppose, either like it or you don't. But the World cup final in the United States was a really, really big deal. And when they were talking about, you know, a billion people around the world watching, I think that's actually true, as opposed to when they say that for the Super Bowl. I've always wondered, is anybody anywhere else in the world give a crap about this? Like how many places in the world. I was thinking about this. We're about to hear from Todd Cru, Tom Cruise. After I heard Tom Cruise talk about a billion people around the world, I thought, yeah, I mean, practically every high school in the world probably has a soccer team. How many high schools. Are there any high schools in Spain where anybody plays our version of football with pads and helmets and kick oblong balls up? Is there one in the whole. I'll bet there's not. I'll bet there's not one high school football team. Is there one in Europe?

[Getty]

I don't even know. There are. There are, but they're very, very few. And they're a novelty. It's generally an American expat organizes it and the kids like playing and. And it gets written up in the New York Times. Scandinavians playing American football. It's a novelty.

[Armstrong]

Basketball's definitely grown as a sport, which can be proven by the fact that we lost the gold medal a bunch of times in a row in the Olympics. So basketball is caught around the world, but soccer's everywhere for whatever reason. And it was in the United States yesterday and they made it. They. It was like the super bowl in the way they. The way they handled it on the television. I always feel guilty playing part of a national anthem. Like I've done something sacrilegious. But let's hear a little of Jennifer Hudson singing the national anthem yesterday. What? So proudly. So I heard good reviews of her version of the national anthem.

[Tom Cruise]

She's no.

[Armstrong]

Ruben stuttered. Who is. Who beat her, I think on American

[Getty]

idol that year, 50 years ago, and nobody's ever heard of it was on for a minute and 56 seconds. It's very good, though.

[Armstrong]

She did the two minute version. Yeah, man. For some reason. Why Was I doing this the other day? I have no idea why. I think I played it for one of my kids. The Whitney Houston national anthem. The first national anthem after 9, 11. Oh, my God. Mm. That was something else.

[Getty]

Jennifer Hudson is an amazing vocalist. She is just. You know, some people's sinuses and throats are shaped in such a way that it makes a pleasing noise when they sing. The rest of us, not so much. But what are you gonna do?

[Armstrong]

Here's a little Tom Cruise who did the voiceover for the pre game.

[Tom Cruise]

More than 30 days ago, 48 nations began a journey. They crossed o. They crossed borders. They crossed cultures. And together they showed us why this game belongs to the world.

[Getty]

All right, it's a soccer tournament. Take it easy.

[Armstrong]

The game on planes probably flew first class. It's not like they were in boats, rowing or something. Anyway, this is the part.

[Getty]

The strings. Too many strings.

[Armstrong]

This is the part I wanted to hear from Tom Cruise.

[Tom Cruise]

But these stories, now, these stories belong to each and every one of us.

[Tony Ayo]

Do they?

[Tom Cruise]

To every nation, to every player, to every supporter, to every volunteer.

[Getty]

What does that even mean?

[Tom Cruise]

To every dream carried on the pitch. So as we gather for one final chapter, Let us celebrate a tournament that brought the world together. Let us celebrate each other. This is football. This is unity.

[Armstrong]

So I thought this.

[Tom Cruise]

This is great.

[Armstrong]

Stop dyeing your hair. I thought that was interesting, him calling it football because the most popular sport, the most popular TV show, the most popular, really, anything in the United States is football. But we don't mean that sport. So calling it. Calling something else football seems pretty crazy.

[Getty]

I wish we had that chunk of Nate Bargazzi's great bit right now. Ready to go. We'll play a game called football. This game will be played with the feet a little bit.

[Armstrong]

There's a little kicking. How much is it worth? Sometimes three, sometimes one, but I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if we're going to. We probably ought to. What ought to happen is we ought to rename our sport because calling it football is kind of dumb since it's almost entirely, especially now a passing game.

[Ted Lasso (Jason Sudeikis)]

Yeah.

[Armstrong]

And there is a sport called football. It's the most popular sport on the planet.

[Getty]

Yeah, but do we want to call it. Everybody else calls it American football, but we know that because we're here. So, yeah, what do we call.

[Armstrong]

Actually, how about you change the name of your sport or we'll bomb you back to the stone age.

[Getty]

Oh, for God's sake. That is. I do not. I disassociate myself or terrible 100 tariff. Anybody who calls it football, my God, till the courts overturn it.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, soccer is a perfectly good name

[Getty]

pass and running blockathon.

[Armstrong]

Where did soccer come from? Did we make up the term soccer because they all call it football. I don't know.

[Getty]

So that's, you know, that's a good question. I mean, the Brits invented soccer and they called it football, right?

[Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Getty]

Oh, that is some seriously bad thumb writing you're typing. I'll get you an answer.

[Armstrong]

Okay, so give me this ABC report on the halftime from Sophie Flay.

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[Ted Lasso (Jason Sudeikis)]

All right, young man, let's go. It's your big shot.

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Jason Sudeikis appeared in character as Ted Lasso, introducing Justin Bieber. Some calling the mixer performances and appearances bizarre and disjointed.

[Armstrong]

First of all, it's the worst kind of journalism that exists on earth. We've been complaining about a long time, grabbing a couple of social media posts and building a story around it. Some people said this.

[Getty]

She should have her freedom of speech taken away.

[Armstrong]

Congratulations to the World cup final. You have risen to the level of the super bowl where everybody complains about your halftime show. That's a sign of success, it would seem, right, since that's what we do in America with our version of football every single year. No matter what you put out, everybody complains about it.

[Getty]

You know, my question would be, can we all take a step back and think about this? Number one, nobody's ever happy with it. So number one, why do you act surprised that you're not happy with it? Number two, what are we doing here? What is this exercise again? I've called for this for ages. A marching band or a boxing match or a hockey game or something. Just anything but pop stars of the moment.

[Armstrong]

Who wants the feats of strength? This is not a pop star of the moment. This is a pop star of the moments 40 years ago. Let's hear a little of Madonna.

[Getty]

There's not a 1% chance she is

[Armstrong]

singing that and she is dressed like a.

[Getty]

Look at the elderly lip syncing, kids.

[Armstrong]

Why is that elderly's lips not matching up with the music?

[Getty]

Don't worry about it, son. Just enjoy.

[Armstrong]

She was dressed in like a. Madonna is not a. In case that matters to anyone, she's a brilliant businesswoman.

[Tom Cruise]

She is.

[Armstrong]

But when you're getting free medical care from the government because you qualify it by age. You should no longer wear thigh highs in public. In the bedroom with your husband, fine. But in public, trying to be sexy. You have been eclipsed by people. Well, a long time ago. It's just. It's just weird. It's weird.

[Getty]

Yes.

[Armstrong]

Give up the sex symbol thing. You can still go out and sing and everything, but don't, don't, don't be a sex symbol. It's weird. I didn't actually see the Ted Lasso thing with Justin Bieber. We'll give you a little of that.

[Ted Lasso (Jason Sudeikis)]

Coach, I gotta say, the first half of halftime knocked my darn socks off.

[Armstrong]

Spectacular, baby.

[Ted Lasso (Jason Sudeikis)]

I mean, how the heck they want. Going to be able to fall down.

[Armstrong]

Going to be tough.

[Ted Lasso (Jason Sudeikis)]

Yep. Yeah. You know what I think we need? We need some heart, you know, someone that has some soul. You know, someone who can bring the love. You thinking what I'm thinking?

[Armstrong]

One step ahead of you, coach.

[Ted Lasso (Jason Sudeikis)]

You always are. All right, young man, let's go. It's your big shot. Okay, now listen to me. Go out there. Don't be nervous. Nobody's watching. All right? Make us proud.

[Armstrong]

And then he starts singing. So that's Justin Bieber. I didn't realize that was Justin Bieber. I caught part of that. And I was just saying to my son, because he's plays guitar and front of crowds and stuff like that. He has. And I said, man, that'd be something. Standing in the middle because did you see any of it? It's a Bieber and an acoustic guitar period. In the middle of the field, surrounded just by himself. And that's a heck of a thing because that place was 180,000 people or how many people in there in the middle of the field by yourself with acoustic guitar, I would not be able to get my hands to work, you know, Sure. I couldn't get my fingers to function.

[Getty]

I'm finding myself wondering, would I be more nervous?

[Armstrong]

That's the interesting thing I said to

[Getty]

my kids about or less than. If I'm in a little place and there are four people staring at me

[Armstrong]

that I told my kids that a very same thing. I said, you know, my experience, though, actually is playing music or speaking. The giant crowds are way easier because you can't focus on the individual bored or angry person.

[Ted Lasso (Jason Sudeikis)]

Right.

[Armstrong]

But I've played, like in bars where there's 20 people and you can, like, hear their individual size. Yeah, it's way harder.

[Getty]

Famously. One band I was in, Gladys. This would have been 1988. Anyway, heavy rock Band. We played a bunch of covers and a few originals and we played our first tune at this bar. It was like early, early in the evening, first set. Play our first tune and hear this gals voice ring out.

[Armstrong]

Well, they got nerve anyway.

[Getty]

I'll never forget that chick. Enter tone of voice. Oh boy. But the great Joni Mitchell once said, the easiest relationship in the world is 10,000 people.

[Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Getty]

One is the hardest.

[Armstrong]

Yeah. And if you ever, if you've ever done public speaking, it's. It's similar. You staying up in front of a 7,000 people or whatever is way easier than like a dozen people. Oh my worst playing music was. I think it was an open night Night Mike open. No, it was not open night Mike.

[Getty]

He really left a lasting impression on you. It was brief and torrid.

[Armstrong]

I was so drunk. It was not. It was with a. Now I'm picturing it. But anyway, we're playing a set and like three or four songs in it. And I had written all these songs so it particularly made me angry that somebody said, is every song you do in G? And I thought, and, and I just thought it was hard to ignore because like what kind of a criticism is that?

[Getty]

It's a key I'm comfortable singing in.

[Armstrong]

Or it just happened right now we've done four in a row. That they aren't all. What? Why does it matter?

[Getty]

What are you, some sort of key

[Armstrong]

of B flat activist? It's funny, I could hardly concentrate to do the next song because it's like,

[Getty]

what if it had been I hate your songs? You'd think, well, some love them, some hate em. Okay, but that, that's a. Wait, wait a minute, wait a minute. The hell do you care?

[Armstrong]

Exactly.

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[Armstrong]

Made me want to stop the song and move the capo up a fret.

[Getty]

There. You happy? That's such a funny criticism.

[Armstrong]

I know.

[Getty]

So look, I see the next clip in the line.

[Armstrong]

I was actually gonna skip that. We can do it if you want.

[Getty]

I was gonna say it's Shakira performing. You could play Shakira or half a dozen other rhythmic pop princesses through the years, and I would never have any idea. And I would have no opinion having played it.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, I was gonna skip that. I think we've probably done enough of the halftime show and let's just get to the how the whole thing ended after 125 minutes. That's a long time. No scoring for most of that.

[Getty]

Hooks it in.

[Armstrong]

Williams battling, knocks it down.

[Tom Cruise]

It's free. It's a goal.

[Armstrong]

Will that be the goal that wins

[Getty]

Spain their second World cup title?

[Tom Cruise]

Spain, for the second time in their history, have won the World Cup. It

[Armstrong]

0, 0. But that was not an indication of how the game was going. There were 16 shots on goal by Spain, and that number was. Let me look at this. 0 by Argentina. 0. They didn't get one kick at the goalie. And all that time. It's amazing.

[Getty]

It was ridiculous. I was so discouraged. I was rooting for Argentina, too. And I was just so, just discouraged watching it. Oh, for God's sake, would you guys do something?

[Armstrong]

I almost bought an Argentina jersey to wear around for a couple of days before this match. That would have been my dumbest jump on a bandwagon sports purchase of all time. And I've made some dumb ones.

[Getty]

Well, if you did bust it out of the closet, people would speak Spanish to you because they could only assume that you're an Argentine. Why else would you be wearing it?

[Armstrong]

I saw lots of people over the weekend in jerseys. Lots of people in either. In various jerseys. I saw a couple yesterday coming out of the Target. They Were holding hands. I assume boyfriend and girlfriend. The dude was in a Spain jersey and she was in an Argentina jersey. I thought that was cool.

[Getty]

Wow. And do you think they are Americans?

[Armstrong]

Oh, they're absolutely Americans. Yeah. Yeah. People just going to the sports bars and stuff like that, wearing jerseys like you do when you go to watch a big sporting event with a whole bunch of people.

[Getty]

They'd adopted a team. But see, that's not cool anymore because our team did pretty well.

[Armstrong]

Yeah, I've seen lots of people wearing a variety of. I don't know if they like developed teams that they liked over the years of their life or just this tournament ever. I've seen lots of different jerseys from people.

[Getty]

Yeah, yeah, fair enough. I just think you ought to be jailed for it. I mean, free speech and everything, but you can speak in jail. So you've gone against your country. You've betrayed you. You are a foreign agent. An unregistered foreign agent.

[Armstrong]

I enjoyed it. I've learned enough about soccer that I enjoy, but I got no comebacks. For anybody. Who says I'm supposed to watch for an hour and a half and nobody scored a goal? It's hard to argue.

[Getty]

One team is utterly dominant and the score, 0 0. This game is broken. You need to fix the rules. You know, I actually missed the goal. I'd been watching the whole game. Got up to get, get, got some out of the fridge, come back and it says 10 and everybody's jumping up and down.

[Armstrong]

Well, I guess that's it.

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