You Hang Up. No You Hang Up.

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand – "You Hang Up. No You Hang Up."

Date: October 17, 2025
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Podcast: Armstrong & Getty Show (iHeartPodcasts)

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into a whirlwind of current affairs, from the dynamics between Trump and Putin, rising concerns about 3D-printed ghost guns, developments in Venezuela, the latest in political indictments, shifting science on health & nutrition advice, to lighter moments with sports and classic show banter. The Armstrong & Getty team, joined by news contributor Katie Green, bring their trademark irreverence and skepticism to the headlines of the day.

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Key Topics & Discussions

1. Trump & Putin: Two Hours on the Phone

Timestamps: [01:16–03:16]

• The show opens with banter about Vladimir Putin and Trump’s recent two-hour phone call.
• Armstrong jokes about falling out of a window, referencing persistent speculation about suspicious deaths near Putin.
• The hosts mock the indistinct nature of Trump’s relationship with Putin, with Getty quipping:

  “You hang up. No, you hang up. I just, I do not get Trump's approach with Putin.” —Joe Getty [02:13]

• Armstrong brings up Trump’s Oval Office joke about Tomahawk missiles, which Putin apparently didn’t appreciate [02:24–02:51].
• Zelensky is visiting the White House to discuss Tomahawk missiles; Armstrong and Getty express uncertainty about what could come from this:

  “I really have no idea what's going to happen today. We'll just have to wait and see...” —Jack Armstrong [03:02]

2. Tomahawk Missiles and Ukraine

Timestamps: [03:16–03:56]

• Getty was out due to cancer surgery but mentions Mike Lyons provided insight on the military implications of Tomahawk missiles for Ukraine.
• According to Armstrong, Lyons did not see Tomahawks as a decisive game-changer.

3. Upcoming Interviews & Supreme Court Oral Arguments

Timestamps: [03:56–04:19]

• Teaser for an interview with Pacific Legal Foundation about recent Supreme Court oral arguments, highlighting several “blockbuster cases” [03:56–04:19].

4. The Explosion of 3D-Printed (Ghost) Guns

Timestamps: [04:29–07:22]

• Armstrong shares stats: 5 years ago, U.S. police found only 30 ghost guns; last year, that number hit 300.
• He predicts exponential growth as 3D printers proliferate:

  “...They don't see any reason why it won't be 3,000 five years from now or 30,000 ten years from now? ...as that technology gets cheaper and cheaper…” —Jack Armstrong [05:06]

• Attempts to restrict gun-printing plans online are mocked:

  “If you're a child, go to your room. If you're not, quit being stupid.” —Joe Getty [05:36]

• Both hosts express pessimism about the future of gun control efforts:

  “It's gonna be almost the end of any attempt to keep guns out of the hands of bad people, isn't it?” —Jack Armstrong [06:46]

5. National & International News: Rapid Headlines with Katie Green

Timestamps: [12:16–18:38]

• Katie Green (news contributor) delivers a rapid-fire roundup of top news stories:
  • Trump hosts Zelensky at the White House; focus on Tomahawks and Putin [13:15, 13:25].
  • Violence in Gaza between Hamas and local gangs [13:30].
  • John Bolton indicted in a case some legal experts call thin [14:36–15:08].
  • Calls for body cams on all federal agents during Chicago anti-ICE protests [16:09].
  • Venezuela mobilizes military as rumors swirl about potential U.S. intervention [16:30–16:47].
  • Salesforce CEO proposes AI-powered “Robocops” for San Francisco crime, met with skepticism [17:02].
  • Robotic telescope haven in Texas bringing the stars closer to the public [17:25].
  • Portland resists National Guard with “dancing frog and naked bikers,” evoking its whimsical protest tradition [17:47–18:23].
• Commentary includes quips on robot cops:

  “Oh boy. I don't know if we're ready for robot cops yet.” —Jack Armstrong [17:14]

6. Sports and Social Commentary: NFL and Modern Trends

Timestamps: [08:30–10:59]

• Highlights from Thursday Night Football: Armstrong laments missing an “instant classic” featuring veteran QBs Joe Flacco and Aaron Rodgers [08:30–09:35].
• Discussion about the evolution of NFL games, late-game excitement, and how long field goals have become routine [09:44–10:10].
• The hosts riff on moving field goal posts and other ridiculous game modifications [10:10–10:24].

7. Drifting Nutrition Advice Over the Years

Timestamps: [11:59–32:31, esp. 20:25–29:46]

• Armstrong wears a Dodgers hat; banters about expensive payrolls and World Series hopes [20:00].
• Replay of a comedy sketch: a time traveler tries to advise a family in the 1980s about what not to eat, only to keep coming back with new, contradictory advice as the decades roll on (eggs, cholesterol, steak, bread, carbs) [25:15–27:18].
• Both hosts reflect on changing health guidelines, especially regarding cholesterol and carbs:

  "I am as close to completely cynical on this topic as I am any other." —Joe Getty [28:33] "Taking advice from that sort of stuff...I just try to take in fewer calories than I burn every day, and that's. I don't know what else to do." —Jack Armstrong [29:19]

• They poke fun at dietary evangelism and compare it to other fads, questioning why people are so eager to convert others to their diet [29:59–32:31].

8. John Bolton Indictment Discussion

Timestamps: [33:38–34:02]

• Armstrong questions if the indictment of John Bolton is legitimate or political payback for criticizing Trump. Both hosts suggest it’s likely overclassified trivialities [33:38–34:02].

9. Venezuela: Looming U.S. Intervention

Timestamps: [16:30-16:47, 34:02–38:53]

• The hosts forecast imminent “regime change” in Venezuela, with Joe Getty remarking:

  “It is utterly clear to me now that we are going for regime change in Venezuela...I certainly hope it's not an invasion because guys will be hurt and guys will die. But yeah, that is clearly the goal.” —Joe Getty [16:47]

• Mailbag later returns to the topic, with speculation from a listener:

  “Maduro is dead for sure. ...are we going to push regime change in Venezuela? The answer is yes, by the way.” —Joe Getty [38:53]

10. Wry Commentary on Politics, Media, and Manipulation

Timestamps: [34:04–35:34]

• Getty shares a quote (attributed to James Lindsay or Chris Rufo) about Marxists using language manipulatively and overtly lying, framing it as a crucial lens for interpreting modern politics:

  “Marxists just lie. They lie so overtly and blatantly that people begin to question their own perceptions...” —Joe Getty [34:52]

11. Mailbag & Listener Moments

Timestamps: [35:34–38:53]

• Listeners write in about local ordinances (joke about loud laughter in Hawaii), TV show plans, and the accidental role Stanford played in Adam Schiff’s political career.
• A listener shares that church attendance surged after Charlie Kirk’s assassination, with 165 spontaneous baptisms at the memorial [37:50–38:18].

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You hang up. No, you hang up... I do not get Trump’s approach with Putin.” —Joe Getty [02:13]
• “If you're a child, go to your room. If you're not, quit being stupid.” —Joe Getty (on attempts to restrict 3D printing of guns) [05:36]
• “It's gonna be almost the end of any attempt to keep guns out of the hands of bad people, isn't it?” —Jack Armstrong [06:46]
• “I'm as close to completely cynical on this topic as I am any other.” —Joe Getty (on shifting health advice) [28:33]
• “Marxists just lie...They use words as weapons. Until you learn to keep this in mind during every interaction, you will continue to get played.“ —Joe Getty [34:52]
• “How do you know someone does CrossFit? They'll tell you.” —Jack Armstrong [29:59]
• “It is utterly clear to me now that we are going for regime change in Venezuela.” —Joe Getty [16:47]

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Segment Timestamps at a Glance

| Segment | Timestamp | |--------------------------------------------------------|---------------------| | Trump & Putin, Tomahawk Missiles, Zelensky Visit | 01:16 – 03:16 | | 3D-Printed Guns & Gun Control Skepticism | 04:29 – 07:22 | | Friday Sports: NFL Fourth-Quarter Drama | 08:30 – 10:59 | | Health Headlines & Comedy Sketch (Carbs/Cholesterol) | 20:25 – 29:46 | | Katie Green - News Roundup | 12:16 – 18:38 | | Bolton Indictment & DC Classification Culture | 33:38 – 34:02 | | Venezuela Regime Change Forecasts | 16:30 – 16:47, 34:02–38:53| | Political Language: “Marxists just lie” Quote | 34:04 – 35:34 | | Listener Mailbag – Funny Letters, Church Attendance | 35:34 – 38:53 |

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

The Armstrong & Getty show continues its blend of sharp wit, conservative skepticism, and pointed social commentary. They return to familiar themes:

• Distrust of mainstream narratives and quick, drastic policy changes.
• Skepticism about government guidance—whether diets or gun control.
• Humor, often self-deprecating or irreverent, even on serious topics.
• Human interest, as seen in the church attendance listener story.

While global events (Trump, Putin, Ukraine, Venezuela) loom large, the hosts are just as interested in the absurdity of shifting nutritional advice, robot telescopes, and the quirks of sports officiating.

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For listeners who missed the episode:
You’ll get up to speed on the most pressing headlines of the day, but perhaps more importantly, you’ll get the Armstrong & Getty perspective—a blend of curiosity, mockery, apprehension, and hearty laughter at the chaos of the modern world.

Transcript

[Jack Armstrong]

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Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty. And now here. Armstrong get ready. Live from Studio C. Senor. It's Friday and we're deep within the.

[Jack Armstrong]

Bowels of the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound. And hey, y'. All.

[Joe Getty]

Today we are toiling under the tutelage of our general manager, Vladimir Vladimirovich Poutine. What is the deal with Trump and Putin?

[Jack Armstrong]

That's the duly elected president of Russia.

[Joe Getty]

The first bafo punchline of the show. Hey, I don't want to fall out.

[Jack Armstrong]

Of winning window this weekend.

[Joe Getty]

Sensible precaution.

[Jack Armstrong]

Luckily, I live in A one. No, I don't. I live in a two story house. I could fall out the window and die.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's probably more like breaking your arm height, but be unpleasant, certainly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, there you go.

[Joe Getty]

Vladimir Vladimirovich would probably drop you out as many times as it took. By the fifth or sixth time, you're good and tired of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

News reports say the man went in his house, went back upstairs, fell out the same window three times until. Until he died of his industry.

[Joe Getty]

Exactly.

[Jack Armstrong]

Trump and Putin on the phone for two hours yesterday, which.

[Joe Getty]

You hang up. No, you hang up. I'm sorry, that was unfair. I did not mean in any way to suggest anything. I just, I do not get Trump's approach with Putin.

[Jack Armstrong]

We should start saying that more often. We in no way, in any way attempted to suggest anything. And Trump joked about he brought up tomahawks and Putin didn't like it. I don't know if you saw that there in the Oval office. Everybody's laughing. Dr. Oz was behind him, just blowing a gasket, laughing.

[Joe Getty]

Good to be reminded that Dr. Oz is in the administration. I just thought that was the low profile. Good.

[Jack Armstrong]

I just thought that was an interesting joke. The most powerful nation on earth threatening the second most powerful nation on earth with nuclear war and this and that. He didn't like that.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I get it. Good one, sir.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, my God, these are strange times. But then Zelinsky's coming to the Oval Office today and they're going to discuss Tomahawk missiles and what not to not. Who knows how that's going to go? I haven't got the slightest idea.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I was off yesterday, selfishly getting cancer surgery. I understand you talked to Mike Lyons about the question of Tomahawks, and as usual, Mike had a really interesting perspective and I hope we can play a couple of those highlights for the good folks today. And for me, selfishly, yeah, he didn't.

[Jack Armstrong]

Seem to think it would be as big a game changer as it's being portrayed as, which is pretty interesting. Yeah, I really have no idea what's going to happen today. And we'll just have to wait and see because nobody was predicting the whatever that was that happened back in February. You don't have a cards, where's your suit, you know, that sort of thing. So who knows what's going to happen today?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'll tell you one thing that's going to happen on the show is we're going to talk to one of the fabulous folks from the Pacific Legal foundation in hour three. Going to kick off our three with a discussion of the Supreme Court's recent oral arguments, the session they're in right now. And man, there have been some blockbuster cases. Really interesting stuff. Looking forward to talking to those good folks. So stay tuned or grab it later via podcast or whatever.

[Jack Armstrong]

And as usual, we don't mean to imply anything about anything.

[Joe Getty]

No, we have no ideas nor opinions and any inference or suggestion that we do is untoward and illegal.

[Jack Armstrong]

Here's the most interesting.

[Joe Getty]

Without the express written consent of the.

[Jack Armstrong]

National Football League, here's the most interesting thing I've heard today report out on the number of ghost guns found across the country by police departments. So five years ago it was 30, there were 30 ghost guns. Last year it was 300. And they have no reason to think that it's not going to exponentially increase like that as the 3D printers get cheaper and it gets, you know, more people to catch on that you can.

[Joe Getty]

Just do that, that ghost guns, those are the weird ray guns like in the Ghostbusters movies. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sorry, I saying ghost guns. What I'm meaning to say is 3D printed guns, which are ghost guns, but it's. That's not the key. 3D printed guns have gone from 35 years ago to 300 last year, and they don't see any reason why it won't be 3,000 five years from now or 30,000 ten years from now? I mean, why wouldn't it be? As that technology gets cheaper and cheaper and the, you know, I heard some advocates on there for trying to stop this say, well, we need to make it harder to find the plans to print and. Yeah, good luck with that. Good.

[Joe Getty]

Oh my God, are you a child?

[Jack Armstrong]

I know.

[Joe Getty]

If you're a child, go to your room. If you're not, quit being stupid.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't mean to imply anything about anything, but you're a child.

[Joe Getty]

Certainly not. But so utterly untraceable is the problem. Unregisterable and you know, well, you can use them in many, many crimes and there's no ballistics report, blah, blah, blah.

[Jack Armstrong]

There are endless problems. Untraceable, unregistered, Anybody can do it at any age, with any criminal background from anywhere. I mean, yeah, so you could be fresh out of prison on and absolutely not supposed to own a gun and print one in your home that afternoon. That is going to happen. That's going to change the whole gun thing. I don't know. I don't know where we're going to be going with this one. Been talking about it for years and knew it was coming, but it looks like it's here and it's about to explode. I can't even imagine where we're going to go with that as a country.

[Joe Getty]

That's counterbalance could be incredibly draconian punishments for possession and I don't think we will probably put up with that. Although it depends where this leads. It could be that there's so much horrendous violence that America says, yeah, we're gonna come together and agree on this.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's gonna be almost the end of any attempt to keep guns out of the hands of bad people, isn't it? I don't see how it's not going to be.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that's already pretty unsuccessful. But yeah, it'll be the end of any real attempt to even do it. Wow.

[Jack Armstrong]

Technologies are not working in our favor. I feel like.

[Joe Getty]

No, no, it's the apple of the tree of knowledge. We now can know and do things that we as human beings can't handle. That is my belief.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. And not only could you be a felon from another country who's 17 years old and print yourself off a very lethal handgun. It's cheap. It's cheaper than the actual gun if you went out and bought one.

[Joe Getty]

Wait, I gotta stop you there. What the hell country on earth would allow in gang members from other countries? What Sort of immigration system do they have? What sort of leadership do they have in this bizarre scenario where the border are just open and they let gang members in? That would never happen anyway.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just wanted to put that on your radar is another thing to worry about. That's what we do, is try to make you miserable and scared. That's what we do here in the Armstrong.

[Joe Getty]

Well and angry. Be fair and angry.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, let's start the show. Officially, I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this. How did Dow get to be Friday, October 17th, the year 2025? We're Armstrong and Yeti and we approve this program.

[Joe Getty]

All right, let's begin then. Officially, according to FCC rules and regulations. Here we go. Leaping into action at mark, the battle of the agent has beauty. Rogers avoids the sack deep downfield. Caught at the 35 yard line and.

[Jack Armstrong]

Going all the way to the end zone is Friar move, pat fryer move 68 yards. So you had an instant classic last night that I did not see. Wish I had on Thursday night football with Joe Flacco, if you remember him, won a Super Bowl 20 years ago.

[Joe Getty]

And surely you mean Joe Flacco Jr.

[Jack Armstrong]

And Aaron Rogers, who's also in his 40s, both just went off in a fourth quarter duel. That was absolutely amazing for people, you know, of that age. There you go. Wow. I wish I had seen it. It's amazing to me. I've been saying this for a couple weeks now. How many NFL games come down to it? You used to complain about the NBA. Why don't you just watch the last five minutes? That's the whole game. The NFL is practically that way now. Tune into the last half of the fourth quarter and watch that. That's all the excitement. It's just stunning that. Because I feel like when I was a kid, rarely would there be an exciting game. You know, there'd be exciting plays throughout, but often nothing happened in the fourth quarter. Excitement was in the second quarter.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

But now with the changes, the rules or whatever it is, you got teams driving up and down the field. You know, if there's a minute left on the clock, the other team's got a good shot.

[Joe Getty]

Well, in the fact the field goal kickers are consistent too, you know, 50 to 55 yards.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Your guy misses a 51 yarder, you're like, come on, dude.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Back in the day, a 50 yard field goal would probably lead the sports section the next day.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. They might have to change the rules around that. Cause. Yeah. Cause you only have to get halfway down the field to to have a better than coin flips chance of kicking a field goal.

[Joe Getty]

You've heard the expression they're moving the goal posts. Literally moving goal posts like mini golf. It goes back and forth across the end zone and you got to time it exactly, exactly.

[Jack Armstrong]

And there's a giant like dolphin that leaps up and lands in his mouth.

[Joe Getty]

If it blocks the ball. If you know, jumps the right. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Thinking outside the box again, we don't mean to imply anything about anything. We've got Katie's headlines on the way and lots of good stuff today. Michael Bolton. No, no, no, that's the singer. John Bolton, former national security advisor indicted yesterday. Is this a good one or a bad one? Is this right to retribution or did the guy have all kinds of classified documents and he was a little too loose with them? We'll hear some expert opinions on that. Lots of good stuff on the way. Stay here.

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[Jack Armstrong]

So yeah, there's new health news out that is the exact opposite of what we all were doing for like 20 years. Who knows if this one is true or not. Which reminds me, we've got this funny comedy thing about bad health advice from the government over the years coming up next segment.

[Joe Getty]

Excellent. Yeah, a lot of good stuff to get to today. Some of it super. You know, history changing, globally impacting, some of it interesting, some of it ridiculous. Nice balance, I think. So stay tuned man. We have a ton of time. Katie, just, just relax, just riff. I'm chilling. Like I, I want, I want this segment to be like the the guitar solo from Freebird. I mean, it's just gonna go on and on till the crowd's in a frenzy. Let's figure out who's reporting what. Lead story with Katie Green.

[Jack Armstrong]

Katie.

[Joe Getty]

Katie, the news lady. A big time wise ass.

[Jack Armstrong]

Very dramatic, Charlie.

[Joe Getty]

Wow, Katie. Did I say something I missed yesterday? That's funny.

[Jack Armstrong]

Did I tell you I'm writing a book on reverse psychology?

[Joe Getty]

You are?

[Jack Armstrong]

Please don't buy it. So I wish you.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my Lord, Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

Every day I'm gonna have something that good.

[News Reader]

It brightens my morning from it. We'll start with ABC News Trump to host Zelensky at White House with Tomahawks. Putin call on agenda.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I. I wish I could be in the room for that.

[News Reader]

From NBC. Violence between Hamas and gangs flares in Gaza calling disarmament into question.

[Jack Armstrong]

Putin or Trump yesterday said, that's got to stop. He said, that's got to stop or we're going to stop it. Once again, we're whoever Weir is, but.

[Joe Getty]

You'Ve got a. An area there just absolutely bristling with arms and scores to settle and angry people and opportunity. You know this. Our old producer, Positive Sean, used to quote a character from Game of Thrones who said, chaos is a ladder. And that's actually. It's a great point. And there's nothing but chaos in Gaza right now. And so every, you know. Oh, you know, I almost used an unfortunate stereotype. I'm certainly glad I didn't. Every fella with ambitions to be the latest warlord is now shooting it out with every other one. How are you going to keep order in that? Trump I guess says, well, we're gonna have Israel come in and clean house. And Israel's thinking, yeah, we get to kill a bunch more Hamas guys.

[News Reader]

Let us know when this one from the Guardian. John Bolton at court to surrender to authorities after being indicted.

[Jack Armstrong]

So this is interesting. I didn't dive deep into this story at all. I just watched ABC evening News and their newscast led me to believe, wow, John Bolton's in serious trouble on this deal. That's what ABC News made me think. You're saying you've read legal experts saying this is not a good case?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, it's very thin.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow. Okay.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, we'll have to compare and contrast some of the notes. I had a great experience yesterday. Really, really interesting. In real life, that was like a. It was an illustration of how conspiracy theories work. I got partial information from a very good source and reached what I thought was a fairly solid conclusion. Then another person offered another point of view, that changed everything. But if you take a narrow bit of evidence over, well, exaggerate the importance of it and ignore all the countervailing evidence, you can make a hell of a convincing case. It's like, you know, convicting somebody after the prosecution goes into trial, not even listening to the defense. That's what conspiracy theories rest on anyway.

[News Reader]

More on that later from Fox News. Judge says she wants body cameras for all federal agents amid Chicago anti ice clashes.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think I'm pro body cam on as many cops as possible.

[Joe Getty]

I have no problem with it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Any reason? We don't want that as long as.

[Joe Getty]

We hold them to reasonable standards, right? And not here I am sitting in air conditioned comfort judging their actions during moments of terror in a dark alley, that sort of thing.

[News Reader]

From the Wall Street Journal. Venezuela mobilizes troops and militias as US Military looms offshore.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God. Are the Marines going to take a beach in Venezuela with Venezuelan military firing back? Holy crap.

[Joe Getty]

It is utterly clear to me now that we are going from regime change in Venezuela. I'm not sure what shape it's going to take. I certainly hope it's not an invasion because guys will be hurt and guys will die. But yeah, that is clearly the goal.

[News Reader]

From the New York Post, Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff suggests AI powered Robocops to help fight crime in San Francisco.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh boy. I don't know if we're ready for robot cops yet.

[Joe Getty]

Let's give it a try, huh? Yeah, over there. I'll stay on this side of the bridge.

[News Reader]

Also in robot news, this one from the New York Times. An army of robot telescopes in Texas makes the stars feel closer than ever. The images from. So they have this big farm and they're putting all these different telescopes out there that you can rent and you can utilize them as you wish.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that'd be fun.

[News Reader]

The pictures are incredible.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, that'd be really cool.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[News Reader]

USA Today with dancing frog and naked bikers. Portland resists Trump's National Guard troops.

[Joe Getty]

You know, I was, I was reading some of that. Not from the USA Today, but and it reminded me of what made Portland charming before. It was disgusting and antifa ridden and that's a whimsical spirit. Yeah, we don't like that. So we're going to dance around in inflatable animal suits as opposed to, you know, trying to blind cops with lasers. It's fine. That's a very Portland thing to do. Demonstrate all you want. This is America. It's fine.

[Jack Armstrong]

I appreciate that, Michael or somebody dressed as a frog and you had a, you had a ribbit for us, right?

[Joe Getty]

Well done. Well played.

[News Reader]

And finally, from the Babylon Bee psa, do not go really fast in a boat with a Venezuelan flag right now.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, no kidding. Here's a public service announcement. If you're boating this weekend, don't have a Venezuelan flag.

[Joe Getty]

Are you a Venezuelan boater?

[Jack Armstrong]

Gosh. So we weren't supposed to eat carbs and now they say we overreacted. Wait a second.

[Joe Getty]

What? Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

I'm wearing a Dodgers hat today as they went up 3 nothing last night and probably are headed toward back to back World Series. For the first time in a quarter century. We might have a back to back winners which it's amazing what you can do with $400 million as a payroll per year. Right?

[Joe Getty]

We have at least a couple of Seattle Mariners fans who are blaming you, even expressing interest in rooting for them. Right. Wearing their chances.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, because that series is 2:2 now with the Toronto Blue Jays. So we, we played this late in the show yesterday, wanted everybody to hear it and I don't mind hearing it again because it went, it goes really fast and it's got some interesting information before. It's a comedy bit, but it's about how diet advice has changed over the years. Nutrition advice. It's basically a family sitting at the breakfast table in like 1982 and a guy from the future shows up and this is how it goes. Oh my God.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, that was sweet. Like a bear stepping into a trap. Which is cruel and horrible. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. Week after week. And. And, wow, that was great.

[Jack Armstrong]

Just.

[Joe Getty]

I don't. I don't.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well played. Hanson just said in my ear, good job, loser.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, they're looking. That's an excellent heckle. It's time for the Friday tradition. Yes.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know. When Joe used to forget clips of the week. Yes. I didn't think about this, but now that I'm forgetting clips of the week, it's not like I'm worried about the schedule of the show or interrupting the flow of the entertainment or it's that my mind no longer works. Am I capable? Do I need a caretaker?

[Joe Getty]

Well, although I must disagree completely, we are in a situation where we have wonderful people that we work with in every way except on Fridays. They seek to undermine us. It's the very basics of show business. Any show, radio, tv, podcast that the technical people and staff and helpers say, don't forget sports is coming up next.

[Jack Armstrong]

Next.

[Joe Getty]

Here, they deliberately try to dup us into forgetting. It's a revolution.

[News Reader]

It's a shatter behind the scenes.

[Joe Getty]

It's one of the few pleasures I get. It's one of backstabbing.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's one of your few pleasures in life, and I will not deny you it.

[News Reader]

Michael just goes, the buzzer is coming.

[Joe Getty]

They're all a bunch of rotten bastards. All right, let's the Friday tradition. Let's take a fond look back at the week that was. It's cow clips of the week. Of the week. One after another, 20 newly freed hostages and their families hug, cry, kiss, scream and pray.

[Jack Armstrong]

And God bless the Middle East. Thank you, everybody.

[Joe Getty]

What was accomplished was a really big deal. I really commend President Trump.

[News Reader]

I commend the Qataris, the Egyptians and the President.

[Joe Getty]

This is not going to be a bloodless process.

[Jack Armstrong]

And if they don't disarm, we will disarm them.

[Joe Getty]

Netanyahu and Trump. Turkish hacker cyber IS one was here.

[Jack Armstrong]

What did they target? They targeted water. They targeted electrical power infrastructure. Is China preparing for war? There was no other reason to target those systems.

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And Operation Summer Heat included more than 8,600 arrests.

[Joe Getty]

Meantime, across the border, DHS says Mexican criminal gangs are placing bounties on the heads of federal law enforcement.

[Jack Armstrong]

Going to be strongly recommending that you.

[Joe Getty]

Start looking at San Francisco.

[Jack Armstrong]

Absolutely. I'll apologize to police officers right here.

[Joe Getty]

Because this is the apology that I've.

[Jack Armstrong]

Been sharing with many rank and file officers. President Trump says US Forces struck another small boat carrying drugs in the waters off Venezuela. We are certainly looking at land now. Because we've got the sea very well under control. Michael, because he is of Italian descent, got married on Columbus Day.

[Joe Getty]

That's right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah. A beautiful tribute to the great man Michael. Moving along, Brian cut me off in a truck.

[Jack Armstrong]

Big garbage truck.

[Joe Getty]

I mean, a garbage truck the size of a whale.

[News Reader]

So after we realized there was a.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boy on the team, and let me.

[News Reader]

Just say this person is 18 years old. So it's. He's a grown man.

[Jack Armstrong]

And now chaos on the basis might have a play at the plate. The throw. Not in time. No. He's out. He's out. It's a force play at the plate.

[Joe Getty]

Of the week.

[Jack Armstrong]

Bothers me that that announcer didn't wait for the call. I mean, he ruined like one of the great calls right there. I feel like there. But not waiting for the. I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

I'm more of an artist than you, Jack. I. I think it added to the whole feeling of chaos and. And uncertainty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Speaking of chaos, as I was saying five minutes ago to set up this clip.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, yeah, right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Having completely forgotten clips of the week.

[Joe Getty]

You idiot.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is about nutrition advice, and it's kind of funny. But then I've got a new thing about carbs that's out from a study today, so kind of fits in with this perfectly. This is a family at the breakfast table, early 80s. A man from the future shows up.

[Joe Getty]

Who are you?

[News Reader]

What are you doing in our house?

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm from the future.

[Joe Getty]

I'm here to warn you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Don't eat that food.

[News Reader]

Why not?

[Jack Armstrong]

The eggs. They're full of cholesterol.

[News Reader]

What?

[Jack Armstrong]

Eating even just one egg can dramatically increase your chance of heart attack.

[Joe Getty]

Don't eat eggs. Oh, my God.

[News Reader]

Thank you.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're welcome. Godspeed.

[News Reader]

Well, I guess I better take those eggs.

[Joe Getty]

Wait, stop.

[Jack Armstrong]

You're back. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

We were wrong about the eggs.

[Commercial Announcer]

How?

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, it turns out there's two types of cholesterol. There's good cholesterol and bad cholesterol. And eggs actually have both. But just don't eat the egg yolks. So stick with the egg whites.

[News Reader]

Yes.

[Joe Getty]

Thank you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Godspeed.

[Joe Getty]

Wait, we were wrong about the eggs again.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. Okay, so it turns out that the amount of cholesterol in a food doesn't actually affect how much cholesterol ends up in your blood. The eggs are probably fine. In fact, we sort of don't even know what cholesterol is. But the steak.

[Joe Getty]

You can't eat the steak. Wait, we were wrong about the steak. It's a toast.

[Jack Armstrong]

Man was not meant to eat bread. What do you mean?

[News Reader]

Man was not meant to eat bread.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wait, turns out it's genetic. Doesn't matter whether you exercise or what you eat. I'm sorry I ruined your meal.

[Joe Getty]

That's great.

[Jack Armstrong]

It is really really good. And it fits in with this story that's out today. A study carbs were once blamed for thing. Now the science is telling a different story.

[Joe Getty]

Oh boy.

[Jack Armstrong]

The carb turns 180 years old this year. I mean that's kind of a weird way to look at it.

[Joe Getty]

It's a funny thing to say.

[Jack Armstrong]

It's like when I said to my son Isaac Newton discovered gravity and he said he didn't discuss gravity was already here, he just put it into words.

[Joe Getty]

So that identified it.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's the thing with car. Carbs have always been around. It's just that the, the nailing it down and Discussing it started 180 years ago. And as we all know starting in when did bread is the worst thing that ever happened to us craze start mid-90s, something like.

[Joe Getty]

Something like that I guess.

[Jack Armstrong]

Anyway, they now believe that similar to that little joke there about cholesterol, there are different kinds of carbs and the carbs that you get from bread and flour are different from other carbs you get from sugar and stuff like that. And Homo sapiens and Neanderthals with varieties and changes in agriculture and stuff like that starting to take in more carbs is what. What fueled the growth of brain and the success of the human species really. And it's still very important to us. And so certain kind of carbs are actually great for you and would be a good idea. Maybe not so much the other kind of carbs. So we need to think about it more complicated way than just counting carbs every single day. I know where I am in my life and friggin do whatever you want but I just try to burn more calories than I take in. Right the end. That's that.

[Joe Getty]

Try not to just keep sugar down your throat. I think that's probably a good idea. But. But I'm as close to completely cynical on this topic as I am any other.

[Jack Armstrong]

Absolutely, absolutely 100%.

[Joe Getty]

Having grown up with a lot of you good folks in an era where the highest scientific authorities in the federal government were telling us eat as much trans fat as possible. Do not eat any real fats, make it trans fats. They happen to call it margarine and other things back in the day. It was perhaps the most horrific thing you can put into your bloodstream and the Government told us it was way better than eggs and butter and bread and that sort of thing. Yeah, it's just ridiculous.

[Jack Armstrong]

As I said yesterday, I grew up in Wisconsin, the dairy state, and we were eating margarine at the table instead of butter in the dairy state because the government said, oh, butter is awful for you. This is what you need. And trans fats, like poison. Oh, yeah, yeah. So, yeah. Taking advice from that sort of stuff. So again, I just. I tried to take in fewer calories than I burn every day, and that's. I don't know what else to do. Yeah, that's pretty funny, though.

[Joe Getty]

Wait, I love that.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. It turns out we don't know much about cholesterol. What's in the food, doesn't have. So anyway, go ahead and eat your eggs.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, my God.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's funny.

[Joe Getty]

Right? Right. Oh, goodness.

[Jack Armstrong]

But carb. Looks like I was having a discussion the other day with somebody who's saying, how do you know somebody's got a PhD? They'll tell you. Or how do you know somebody's does CrossFit? They'll tell you. And it was. One of them was, how do you know somebody's a. On a new diet? They'll tell you. I mean, that is definitely a thing. What is it about the evangelism of diets? I mean, there's all kinds of different things we do, people do, but they don't feel the need to convert others. But like they do with diets, I.

[Joe Getty]

Think they're trying to reinforce their own enthusiasm for it. Maybe. I don't know. But it's the whole diet thing, it's a lot like fashion in that, you know, one leg length or width or whatever is as good as another. It keeps you from exposing your genitals or being battered by the weather. You know, you're clothed in short. But it's got to keep changing, and people have to keep inventing rationalizations for it changing, otherwise fashion as a concept wouldn't exist. And like, if. And I've made this point, and it's a very serious one about education, the reason so much of education got perverted in, you know, the last chunk of the 20th century was these universities, the educational colleges were cranking out all these Master's degrees and PhDs, and what do you need a PhD in for? What do you need a PhD for? If you're just gonna say, keep doing the same thing, keep teaching phonics, keep teaching math. The way we're doing it, everything's fine. It's worked for centuries.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. We figured this out 2,000 years ago.

[Joe Getty]

So just stay on track. Exactly. Now give me my big fat salary because I got a fake degree. No, that doesn't work. So you've got to come up with a new fad, a new concept, and then swear like, you know, mouthfuls of margari that it'll just save the children. And they don't give a crap about the children. You give a crap about your own ego and your own salary. Anyway, I think a lot of diet stuff is precisely that. How am I going to sell a book that says just keep eating what you're eating, Try to exercise more, Be very short book. Hey, eat a balanced diet like you've heard your whole damn life. There. My book is now two sentences long.

[Jack Armstrong]

Burn more calories than you take in every day. Right?

[Joe Getty]

There you go. That's the appendix or the postluders. I get the afterword. Yeah, postlude.

[Jack Armstrong]

I like that.

[Joe Getty]

I'm sorry, I was thinking music. It's the. It's the author's note. Oh yeah, and burn more calories than you take in.

[Jack Armstrong]

Okay, we got mailbag on the way. Lots of stuff today. Stay here.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty.

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[Jack Armstrong]

So the Trump White House or Justice Department indicted another guy that he hates because Bolton wrote a book that that badmouth Trump. Is this something to be worried about or not? Or are we back to the whole everything in Washington D.C. is classified. They treat everything like it's, you know, the code to the nuclear weapons and that whole conversation.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, probably some of all of the above, right?

[Jack Armstrong]

We'll get to that later. Right.

[Joe Getty]

A lot of good stuff to squeeze in. Clearly we're heading for regime change in Venezuela. I want to get into that a bit more. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day. And I was reminded of this in seeing a few of the quote unquote highlights from the Mumdani New York mayoral debate and then getting a great email from a beloved listener on the same topic. And that's Mumdani has walked back his views on defunding the police. And after two days after saying, refusing to say that Hamas should lay down its arms, he now says, well, of course that's what the truth is. Of course they should lay down their arms. And I was reminded of this quote who I I'm pretty sure is James Lindsay. It might be Chris rufo, but I'm 90% sure it's James Lindsay. And I've, I've hit you with it before, but it's one of my all time favorites. Marxists just lie. They lie so overtly and blatantly that people begin to question their own perceptions. It works because no one expects another person to lie so overtly. They don't believe in shared truth. They use words as weapons. Until you learn to keep this in mind during every interaction, you will continue to get played. They rely on you implicitly, assuming that they have good intentions and are aiming at a shared truth. And so dialogue can be productive. That's a deception. Here is the key. Here's what you need to take away. For Marxists, dialogue is not a way of attaining truth. It is a forum for manipulation. Mailbag.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, very short version of last night's debate. I took in a bunch of post game coverage. It was two hours long, three candidates, incredibly boring. The moderators were horrible. Andrew Cuomo was horrible. Mamdani will be the next mayor of New York City.

[Joe Getty]

Good Lord.

[News Reader]

Zoran Mandani.

[Joe Getty]

All right. I love that clip so much. Drop us a Note. [e-mail] Got this from Eric in beautiful Astoria, Oregon. Jack's interview with the fabulous Tim Sandifer included the fact that some very nutty state legislatures in this country are doing their thing, including Hawaii. Case in point. Did you know that Hawaii recently made it illegal to laugh too loudly in a public area?

[Jack Armstrong]

You.

[Joe Getty]

That's right. You are only allowed aloha. And he says, I regret nothing.

[Jack Armstrong]

I regret nothing. That's the funny part. I regret nothing.

[Joe Getty]

I know.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that's good.

[Joe Getty]

David Rice, when you guys start streaming your show on YouTube or something, which we are going to do cameras. Set up the cameras so whenever Jack comes in late, he blocks Joe as he passes. That way Michael can make the door sound clip, followed immediately by Katie, Katie Porter yelling hysterically, get out of my shot.

[Jack Armstrong]

That's funny. We are going to be on YouTube sooner rather than later. I'm gonna have to figure out how I want to dress once we're on television because I wear a suit some.

[Joe Getty]

Days, but the other days I look.

[Jack Armstrong]

Like a homeless person, so I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

I do. Yeah. Okay. We'll talk about that more later. Let's see. This is just funny and interesting. Bob writes pilot Bob from the block. That's the beautiful Los Altos Hills. Loved hearing Katie's dad talk about how he graduated from Stanford to embalming. Let him know our distinguished senator Adam Schiff started his career that same way. My Stanford buddy was shift's medical undergrad advisor and the one who delivered the news to Adam that his math grades were not good enough to cut it for med school. So I've always blamed my friend for transforming Schiff into a blood draining politician.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh, man, it's like when Hitler wasn't good enough. Painter. I wish Adam Schiff had been a better doctor.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, no kidding. No kidding.

[Jack Armstrong]

Got the smallest, thinnest neck I've ever seen.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, not a long hitter. Robin says some very nice things about listening to the show since Rush Limbaugh left the air. And I love. Thank you. Thanks for making the unhappy news entertaining. Yeah. Not long ago, you asked if there was an increase in attendance at churches. I can answer that with a resounding yes. After Charlie Kirk's assassination, we saw a huge increase in young people filling the pews. The evening of Charlie's memorial, we had over 2400 people. 165 spontaneous baptisms. This Sunday, we're baptizing over 60 people.

[News Reader]

Wow.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, Amazing. Thanks, Robin. Yeah, that's. That's great. I mean, it's. It's horrible, but it's great. Let's see. How much time do we have, Michael?

[Jack Armstrong]

About 30 seconds.

[Joe Getty]

Another J in San Jose frequent correspondent writes, Maduro is dead for sure. Oh, extra point. And he makes an intriguing point that we will use to open our discussion of are we going to push regime change in Venezuela? The answer is yes, by the way.

[Jack Armstrong]

Cool. And this latest indictment of a Trump enemy, John Bolton, does it hold any water or not? We got that for you and a bunch of other stories to get to today. Trump is meeting with Zelensky at the White House. That might happen while we're doing the show. If you missed a segment, get the podcast. Armstrong and Getty on demand.

[Joe Getty]

Armstrong and Getty?

[Jack Armstrong]

This is an I heart podcast.