You Know Nothing About Clapping Back

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: You Know Nothing About Clapping Back
Date: December 18, 2025
Podcast Host: iHeartPodcasts
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty (with Katie Green)

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on recent political events, media spin, the American economy, and a viral encounter at a Target store in Chico, California. Armstrong & Getty blend their trademark humor, skepticism, and commentary, critically dissecting Donald Trump’s economic messaging, the public’s reaction to inflation, and a controversial internet incident involving a Target employee and customer over a political t-shirt. They also provide updates on their ongoing fundraising drive for Scouting, using creative on-air stunts to encourage donations.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Donald Trump’s Primetime Economic Address

Timestamps: 02:43 – 13:14

• Trump claims he “inherited a mess” from the previous administration, blaming historic inflation and loss of affordability on Democratic leadership.
• Jack Armstrong (03:13): “Donald Trump last night, primetime address with the belief that it’s a messaging problem... The economy’s fine. It’s a messaging problem.”
• The hosts debate whether economic anxiety is truly a messaging failure or a palpable consumer pain point.
• Trump’s approach: contrasting “messaging” with the lived experiences of Americans at grocery stores and gas stations.
• Direct criticism of Biden’s border and immigration policies, presented with alarmist statistics about crime and migration (04:32).
• Trump touts planned tax cuts and a one-time “Warrior Dividend” of $1,776 for active military personnel, supposedly funded by tariffs (08:24).
• Joe Getty notes the limitations of political spin regarding the economy:
  “You can’t sales pitch your way through on people’s personal economies.” (11:01)

2. Media Coverage and The Divergence of Headlines

Timestamps: 13:14 – 15:36

• Review of the press’s sharply divided reactions to Trump’s speech.
• The New York Times headline was “bellicose Trump points fingers… lies and distortions,” while the Washington Post focused on a “domestic reset.”
• Joe Getty emphasizes the necessity of consuming a broad range of media:
  “You really have to take in a broad variety of news if you want to know what’s going on.” (15:18)

3. Scouting Fundraiser & On-Air Antics

Timestamps: 15:36 – 16:25, 38:25 – 44:29

• The team is running a fundraising drive for Scouting—specifically for kids unable to afford the fees.
• They tease unique incentives (and mild punishments) to spur donations, including reading software licensing agreements in increasingly obnoxious voices, and promise poorly played Christmas music on trombone and violin.
• Jack Armstrong: “The idea is we’re going to put something on the air that you want to stop. And to get it to stop you have to go to armstrongandgetty.com and donate money to scouting.” (24:45)
• One segment features Katie Green reading a Netflix licensing agreement in various irritating voices until enough funds are raised (40:45 – 43:09).

4. Viral Target Incident & Internet Outrage

Timestamps: 25:06 – 33:35

• A confrontation at a Target in Chico, CA, goes viral:
  A younger woman berates an elderly employee for wearing a Charlie Kirk t-shirt, accusing Kirk of racism and demanding the worker be punished.
• Armstrong & Getty criticize both the customer’s behavior and the internet’s overzealous response, which includes thousands of angry calls to the customer’s employer and extensive doxxing.
• Jack Armstrong: “I couldn’t hate you more.” (27:15), reacting to the berating customer.
• The hosts argue against mob justice, noting it’s both excessive and pointless.
• The elderly Target employee, Gene, responds to her sudden fame and the backlash by refusing to retaliate:
  Gene: “Two wrongs don’t make a right. You know, she wronged me, but I don’t want to wrong her...I really wouldn’t want to see her...lose their job over it.” (30:26)
• A GoFundMe for the employee tops $127,000 (31:09), which the hosts view as “America...puts their dollars in the jar of whoever they like the best.”

5. Social Commentary & Broader Observations

Timestamps: 32:00 – 35:30

• The hosts reflect on social polarization, the permanence of internet notoriety, and the binary nature of online “support” via crowdfunding.
• Armstrong asserts indifference to political slant:
  “If you had some nice old black woman wearing a BLM t-shirt and some right winger came along...I would feel exactly the same way. Exactly.” (32:00)
• They observe how media coverage is selective: if the political roles were reversed, coverage would be wall-to-wall.

6. Lighter Segments: Sports, Marriage, and Daily Life

Timestamps: 19:34 – 22:18, 34:40 – 35:38

• Discussion of football headlines, aging athletes (Philip Rivers), and sports media hype.
• Humorous side conversations about marriage, arguing that “the best part of being married is having a permanent person to debrief with after any social event.” (34:50)
• Musings about how much healthier it is to share dislikes with a partner than shares of interests.

7. Preview: Dynamic Pricing and Consumer Data

Timestamps: 44:29 – 46:10

• Tease for a future discussion on dynamic in-store pricing—how algorithms and personal data determine what a customer pays, even for mundane items like peanut butter.
• Raises ethical questions about price discrimination and manipulation based on customer profiles.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Joe Getty (on economic pain):
  “I wonder in my own life at what point I’ll stop being surprised when they bring me the bill at a restaurant or when they give me the total at the grocery store. I still am surprised as of today.” (12:11)
• Jack Armstrong (on cancel culture & internet mobs):
  “It practically starts overboard and just turns into angry mobism on this woman.” (25:30)
• Gene, the Target employee:
  “Two wrongs don’t make a right. You know, she wronged me, but I don’t want to wrong her.” (30:26)
• Joe Getty (on fundraising stunts):
  “We’re not gonna stop until you raise a certain amount of money. And that’s what we’re going to do here with Katie Green. Except she’s not going to play an instrument. She is just going to read from the licensing agreement...” (39:57)
• Jack Armstrong (on dynamic pricing):
  “Every single item you sell, you do basically a negotiation with each and every customer.” (45:12)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Trump’s Economic Speech Reactions: 02:43 – 13:14
• Media Headlines Analysis: 13:14 – 15:36
• Scouting Fundraiser Announcement: 15:36 – 16:25
• Sports and NFL Commentary: 19:34 – 22:18
• Viral Target Incident: 25:06 – 33:35
• Scouting Fundraiser On-Air Stunt: 38:25 – 44:29
• Dynamic Pricing Teaser: 44:29 – 46:10

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Tone & Style

• The episode features the hosts’ signature blend of sharp skepticism, humor, and cynicism.
• The style is conversational, often self-deprecating, and layered with both biting observation and genuine concern for societal trends.
• Moments of levity—improvised gags about fundraising punishments, marriage advice—interweave with more serious critiques of political, economic, and cultural phenomena.

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Summary

This Armstrong & Getty episode is a brisk, wide-ranging snapshot of current economic, political, and cultural currents. It skillfully weaves political critique (particularly around Trump’s economic message and public polling), media dissection, real-world examples of social media’s downsides, and the old-fashioned mechanics of fundraising—always with a comedic edge. The viral Target incident serves as an anchor for exploring cancel culture, internet rage, and virtue signaling, while fundraising shenanigans showcase the lengths the hosts will go to for a good cause. Ultimately, the show underscores Americans’ skepticism toward messaging, familiarity with inflation, and weariness with outrage-driven news cycles.

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Transcript

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[Joe Getty]

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Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadc.

[Jack Armstrong]

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and.

[Joe Getty]

Getty and now here's Armstrong and Getty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Eleven months ago, I inherited a mess and I'm fixing it. When I took office, inflation was the worst in 48 years and some would say in the history of our country, which caused prices to be higher than ever before, making life unaffordable for millions and millions of Americans. This happened during a Democrat administration, and it's when we first began hearing the word affordability.

[Joe Getty]

Donald Trump last night, primetime address with the belief that it's a messaging problem. The reason people feel this way about the economy. The economy's fine. It's a messaging problem.

And I think that's true to some extent. The President's energies, at least on camera, have seemed to be more about foreign policy. Later.

I don't think I disagree. I don't think it's true at all. I think prices still feel high. Some people who don't understand what inflation is, a lot of people believe prices were actually going to go down when he became president. They didn't because that's not the way inflation works. And they're still really mad about it. And you can try to paint it however you want with whatever messaging you want, but until I get used to the fact that what this meal cost 80 bucks, I ain't gonna go, well.

You'Re disagreeing with me by agreeing with me completely. In effect, that's what the Trump administration should be saying, what you just said, that they've. The lack of good messaging about. Look, this is gonna be tough. Here's the way inflation works. Here's, here's how we're trying to combat it, and they just haven't. So they trotted the President out for a speech last night, which was covered in widely divergent ways, as you might think. We'll give you some of the headlines in a couple of minutes, but I thought the opening stuff was really quite good. 61 Michael.

[Jack Armstrong]

Our border was open, and because of this, our country was being invaded by an army of 25 million people, many who came from prisons and jails, mental institutions and insane asylums. They were drug dealers, gang members, and even 11,888 murderers, more than 50% of whom killed more than one person. This is what the Biden administration allowed to happen to our country, and it can never be allowed to happen again.

[Joe Getty]

There's no arguing on the whole immigration thing. New York Times, that great piece a week ago on how everybody around Joe Biden was saying, this is a disaster.

Oh, yeah, yeah. I thought that was strong and indisputable coming from Jails, insane asylums, gonorrhea clinics, animal cruelty, self help groups, just scum of the earth.

Insane asylums and mental institutions, which is a rough two for.

That's terrible. Give me 62.

[Jack Armstrong]

Michael we had men playing in women's sports, transgender for everybody. Crime at record levels with law enforcement and words such as that, just absolutely forbidden. We had the worst trade deals ever made. And our country was laughed at from all over the world, but they're not laughing anymore.

[Joe Getty]

All right, good, good, strong, positive stuff. And then at some point he got his adrenaline to kick in or something and like got much louder on the microphone, but whoever was in charge of the audio didn't notice or something. And so the rest of it sounds kind of overdriven, if you're familiar with the audio terminology or whatever. Give me a 65. Michael.

[Jack Armstrong]

I am bringing those high prices down and bringing them down very fast. Let's look at the facts. Under the Biden administration, car prices rose 22% and in many states, 30% or more. Gasoline rose 30 to 50%. Hotel rates rose 37%. Airfares rose 31%. Now, under our leadership, they are all coming down and coming down fast.

[Joe Getty]

I didn't watch the speech. What was the setting? Was he sitting behind the desk or what was he doing?

He was behind a lectern in the diplomatic room, I think that was decorated for Christmas and he had the flags behind him and stuff like that. The Christmas setting, nice visual.

The Christmas White House look, which is always nice.

And then he, he talked a little bit about wages and tariffs, his favorite word, and building factories and plants and that. Which is actually not. There's not much of that happening, but I think that's unfair criticism. That sort of thing takes years to get going.

But that's the problem with the whole tariff thing in general. Are you going to invest in building a plant? If you know that takes years, but the next president, that's all going to go away. And so you don't need to build a plant.

It's a. The Supreme Court does it next month.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So that's, that's kind of a silly criticism. But then he got to some cash for you. Clip 70.

[Jack Armstrong]

Michael Next year you will also see the results of the largest tax cuts in American history that were really accomplished through our great big beautiful bill, perhaps the most sweeping legislation ever passed in Congress that includes no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, and no tax on Social Security for our great seniors. Under these cuts, many families will be saving between 11,000 and $20,000 a year. And next spring is projected to be the largest tax refund season of all time.

[Joe Getty]

And then. Go ahead. You got something on that?

No, I'll wait.

And then finally, he made this promise to our uniformed men and women. 71.

[Jack Armstrong]

1,450,000 military service members will receive a special we call Warrior Dividend before Christmas. A Warrior Dividend. In honor of our Nation's founding in 1776. We are sending every soldier who. $1,776. We made a lot more money than anybody thought because of tariffs, and the bill helped us along. Nobody deserves it more than our military.

[Joe Getty]

That's an interesting idea. Yeah.

So sending out checks for 1700 $76 to everybody in uniform, I guess so.

There's even more polling that came out this week where Trump's really struggling with his numbers on the economy, which he was bulletproof on that number his first term. No matter what was going on, no matter what he said or what, you know, nuttiness by some people's standards was, was happening in the Trump administration, people trusted him on the economy. And those numbers have collapsed. And I think, because like I was saying earlier, it's just, look at what my grocery bill is. When I get to the end of the line, it hasn't gone down. And I, I, I don't see that turning around anytime soon. But anyway, inflation numbers out today, they came in less than expected, whatever that's all about. So Kevin Hassett, he's the, he's the economic council advisor for Donald Trump. He said this is just an astonishingly good inflation report that came out today, 2.7%. We've looked at 61 forecasts. This number came in better than every single one of them. And not a single economist surveyed by Bloomberg got it right. So that's the spin. It's not even fair to call it spin. That's just the fact today on that particular number. When you break it out, though, that's what they're doing in the Wall Street Journal. Some of the numbers within the numbers. So all items, 2.7%. But energy services, up 7.4%. Just flat. Energy, 4.2%. Food about where it was, 2.6. But fuel oil up 11%. Piped gas up 9%. Energy just killing people. I know. My, my bills are ridiculous.

Also, it's interesting because the president touted the fact that gasoline prices are much lower than they were during the Biden years, which is true.

Medical care services up 3.3%. Shelter up 3%. So a lot of the things you really need up quite a bit. Electricity up 6.9%.

Damn.

Used vehicles. Well, that's a good one or a bad one, depending on whether you're buying or selling.

Right.

If I'm selling one, I'm happy that they're up almost 4%.

Yeah. Yeah. So Trump's his modus operandi for a very long time is to make outlandish promises and be always the consummate salesperson and marketer. The problem he's got though is if he were to make like grandiose claims about immigration and he doesn't have to because they've done an unbelievable job. But about, you know, how much coming in or how much they've stopped or whatever, people would kind of sort of have to take his word for it or look it up or whatever because, you know, sitting here talking to a microphone in my home, whatever, I can't see people crossing the border. I don't live on the border. On the other hand, everybody, everybody is an expert on the economy, their personal economy. They know exactly what's going on. You can't sales pitch your way through on people's personal economies. And you know Trump at his vaunted instinct. He's how he's got to be able to understand that Biden didn't. Biden was a miserable failure at it. And I'm a little surprised to see Trump not doing a little better job at it. But anyway, handful of headlines, New York Times.

I wonder in my own life at what point I'll stop being surprised when they bring me the bill at a restaurant or when they give me the total at the grocery store. I still am surprised as of today.

Yeah.

Like what? How did I spend? Are you sure you rang that up right?

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That seems like a fair headline from the Washington Post.

Oh yeah, I would agree. Here's your lead. President Donald Trump bashed his predecessor and praised his own policy achievements in his first year back in office, delivering an 18 minute live address to the nation on Wednesday as he seeks to reverse lagging public opinion numbers and convince Americans that he is addressing their economic concerns. I think that is a perfectly fair assessment. They certainly are a bit critical in the WaPo during the article, but you know, why not? Let's see the Wall Street Journal Trump Defends Handling of Economy Announces Military Dividend President Trump defended his handling of the announced a $1,776 Warrior dividend check for active duty service members he said would be paid for with tariff revenue. And again, you know, a mix of description and criticism where he was right, where he was wrong. It was journalism. In short, I think that's fine. The New York Post has clearly staked its stake. Is that a thing on pro Trumpiness? Trump tells America I'm fixing Biden's mess in chart filled PR time address and does not have even the slightest caveat or caution, much less criticism for the whole thing. And they reproduce several of his charts, which actually are pretty interesting. You really have to take in a broad variety of news if you want to know what's going on.

So I think later this hour we should do quarter till. At the end of this hour we should do our first challenge to raise money where we do something to punish you. Going with carrot and stick approach. We've tried the carrot of here's how you can help young people out there, particularly young men with scouting, making them.

Into the great Americans we want them to be in our government. Schools are doing the opposite.

That's the carrot which helps all the country, obviously, if you have a next generation of leadership that believes in patriotism and morals and all that sort of stuff. So we've tried the carrot. We're going to go with the stick. We're going to have Katie Green reading the licensing agreement rules for something until you donate a certain amount of money. We'll get to that later. It's always fun. Hey, hey, you forced us into this. We've got a goal we've got to hit.

We gotta love your chance.

And other news. We gotta get to stay here.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Today, 10 athletes will face the toughest job interview in fitness that will push past physical and mental breaking points. You are the fittest of the fit. Only one of you will leave here with an IFIT contract for $250,000.

[Joe Getty]

This is where mindset comes in.

[Jack Armstrong]

Someone will be eliminated.

[Joe Getty]

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[Joe Getty]

On a recent podcast, Kamala Harris argues that Democrats aren't speaking authentically. Even more, she says they're stuck in.

The past, referring to that one awkward.

Time when President Biden tried to sell her.

That's quite a joke.

That is quite a joke.

Wow. Greg Gutfeld.

Wow.

Now I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna mention this one. Hanson. It's kind of funny. It's very edgy. But five bucks you don't get mentioned. You got to give at least 25 to Scouting to get your wacky name mentioned on the air. We'll talk about the total a little bit later. We got a good fun challenge for you. Got a couple of kind of sport. Oh, sock underwear garter gave a thousand bucks. Thank you. Whale sighting. Sock underwear garter. That was my idea yesterday. I want some sort of garter that attaches to the bottom of my boxer briefs and the top of my socks, keeping my socks up and my underwear down.

Wow.

I just think it'll be very, very handy. I don't know how good a look it would be, but you're not going to see it. So go To Armstrong and getty.com if you want to donate to scouting. We'll explain all that a little bit later if you don't know what we're talking about. Three little kind of non super sportsy sports things. Philip Rivers, the 65 year old former NFL star who's playing for the Indianapolis Colts now is gonna play the final five games of the year for the Colts at age 44 and make over $278,000. It presented is like a that's a lot of money. Well, it's a lot of money, but for an NFL quarterback, I'm surprised they're not throwing more money at him the way they throw around money in the NFL. He's going to start five NFL games and make $278,000 is all.

Well, after taxes and his agent, that's not going to be very much going to get that. Yeah, and they're desperate. I mean, clearly they're desperate. They're luring grandpa's off the couch.

Well, they're a playoff team, aren't they. Or possible playoff team. Anyway.

They're in the hunt, Jack.

They're in the hunt. The Kansas City Chiefs are not in the hunt. I keep seeing it being presented as Patrick Mahomes out for the season. Well, yeah, he had a bad injury, but if he sprained his finger once they're eliminated from the playoffs, playing Patrick Mahomes would be insane for the last several games of the year, wouldn't it? Since he's. Since he played it, he's played like an extra the 11 3/4 seasons over the last decade because of all his playoff runs. One of the great runs in NFL history, if not the greatest run in NFL history in terms of making it deep into the playoffs year after year after year after year. And then finally this one, Delaware beat Louisiana and the 68 Ventures Bowl. I'm sure y' all were really tied into that and had a lot of money on it. Boys, we've always been amused by the bowl games. The 68 Ventures Bowl. I'm sure that's a big deal to some people in a certain part of the country. I don't know where it is. And there's lots of sponsors and money to be made and probably a queen and a pageant and a parade. Maybe the, the. The people that were stars of past Venture Bowls came back and waved their hands at halftime. I was.

I was confused. I thought like the 19, 1968 Venture. That's a thing that just happened.

I don't know what it is. Delaware beats Louisiana in the 68 Ventures Bowl. I. That's the headline. I have no idea what that means.

Is that a website or an AI or.

When does the actual playoffs for college football start?

Any minute.

Used to be. I mean, if you're old, it was pretty much always New Year's Day.

[Jack Armstrong]

They.

[Joe Getty]

They crowned the champion or then they finally had a championship game. But now, now like everything else, it's got moved back. It's practically February. I think when you finally get around to it.

Yeah, check your local listings. Coming up pretty quick though, because there are multiple rounds.

Super Bowls in June this year, for instance, just keeps getting moved back. Don't think that's right. We have some more news. We're going to have Katie do something awful on purpose to try to raise money for the scouts. We'll explain that a little bit later.

Touch on the most hated person on the Internet again.

Oh yeah, we gotta do that. Boy, if you haven't heard, you wanna be angry. Who doesn't? Stay tuned.

Ho ho, ho.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Today, 10 athletes will face the toughest job interview in fitness that will push past physical and mental health breaking points. You are the fittest of the fit. Only one of you will leave here with an IFIT contract for $250,000.

[Joe Getty]

This is where mindset comes in.

[Jack Armstrong]

Someone will be eliminated. Pressure is coming down.

[Joe Getty]

Trainer Games on Prime Video January 8th. Watch the trailer on trainergames.com Season 2.

[Announcer]

Of Unrivaled Basketball is here and the talent is unreal. Paige Beckers, Nafiza Collier, Kelsey Plumb, Brianna Stewart and more are back to redefine the game. Unrivaled basketball season two, sponsored by Samsung Galaxy, tips off January 5th on TNT, TruTV and HBO Max.

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

We've got a great punishing challenge to try. Some money for scouting coming up in a little bit. We'll explain it in like 10:12 minutes, something like that. It's something that the idea is we're going to put something on the air that you want to stop. And to get it to stop you have to go to armstrongandgetty.com and donate money to scouting. That's the way it will work. So stay tuned.

So the Internet has decided to hate on a woman from Chico, California, this week. And she certainly earned a certain amount of dislike and derision. Although, as we've observed many times, the Internet mob, not only does it sometimes go overboard, it practically starts overboard and just turns into angry mobism on this woman.

Short of violence, I'm fine with practically. Whatever.

Oh, my. Oh, my. Disavow. I disavow. Anyway, here is the incident. You have a younger woman berating an elderly gal who is working to earn a few bucks at her local Target.

[Jack Armstrong]

I can wear red, any red shirt. The Charlie Kirk shirt. Yes. Oh, yes, I know.

[Joe Getty]

Stupid.

[Jack Armstrong]

No. Why the would you wear that? You're at work at Target. You support a racist. It's not racist.

[Joe Getty]

Yes, he is.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'm sorry that. I'm not gonna stand here and argue with you. You're not. You should go get your manager. You should not be allowed to wear the at work. That's your opinion. The opinion is he's a racist and you support him. That's your opinion, ma'.

[Katie Green]

Am.

[Jack Armstrong]

This is going to be taken above your head. That's insane. Insane. Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

You're awful. You're an awful person.

We're big in Chico, Chico, northern California. The ding up. By reading those areas, they. They lean way more conservative. And I'm talking to people around the country who don't know this lean way more conservative than a lot of what you picture with California. So it's not that surprising that you got an older woman wearing a Charlie Kirk T shirt at the Target. The woman who decides to drop f bombs on an old woman, probably working a seasonal schedule at Target to make a little extra money and then posting.

With, are you effing stupid?

Oh, my God, you're an awful person. Back to, you know, whatever derision comes her way, I'm fine with. God, you're a horrible human being. And then she posted it herself because she is so. Look at me. Own this nice old woman, right?

Very proud of it. Posted it herself online.

I couldn't hate you more.

Social media shut down, as you might imagine now, as hate and derision and doxing followed the posting, somebody, before she set down, shut down her social media, posted a picture of her with some companion who are posing next to an American needed Charlie Kirk sticker on a car, gesturing at their throat, like having your throat shot out and then a middle finger and that sort of thing. Very clever, very smug.

I hate this woman. On the other hand, I would never take even 10 seconds of my time to post anything about her or call her work or What?

I would never ever do that. There's been quite a bit of anger poured out on her, Katie, right?

[Katie Green]

Oh, yeah. The medical facility that she works for has received 6000 plus profanity laced phone calls.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, see, I just, I don't, I don't get that impulse, really. I, I kind of think.

Well, I think you get the impulse, you don't get the action.

Yes, I, I get the impulse, I don't get the action. Correct. I think it's more along the lines of what you always say about people like that the worst punishment you could dole out is them having to be themselves the rest of their lives.

Yeah, it's a life sentence.

I'm sure she doesn't have a lot of friends. A lot of people hate her whether she knows it or not.

Well, I, I'll bet she has a lot of people who are her fellow strident, hateful superior. Stop me when you recognize a good quality in a person. You know, judgmental, vicious tribesmen like her and they all support each other in high fiveness sort of thing.

[Katie Green]

Yeah, that's probably the crowd she was posting this to.

[Joe Getty]

Sure. It's.

It's difficult. Like, I don't, I don't know that people ought to be hounded out of their jobs for this sort of thing, but as we were talking about yesterday, if we found out somebody around here that I need, like, that I needed to work with. Don't just work with like it's. They're in the building and I see them occasionally. Like I need to interact with them on a regular basis and have conversations with them. I don't want to work with somebody like that.

No. And if they were under my supervision, I would seek a way to have them not be in the organization anymore. I don't, you know, it's because, because of why?

Because they're a hateful lunatic?

Well, yeah, that, that among other things. We got an email, we were talking about. I can't remember what the topic was exactly, but we got an email from a guy who's in the car business. Well, I guess we were talking about dishonest car dealers or something like that. And he said, look, I learned a long time ago that anybody who will lie for me sooner or later will lie to me. And so he doesn't employ people like that. Well, you get a hateful, vicious bigot woman like this, there's no chance that's the only, you know, moral failing and the only, you know, way in which that will come out over time. So, no, I don't want that sort of person in my organization. On the other hand, the lovely and gentle spirited older gal who we're talking about, the Target employee, has something to say in clip 18.

[Jack Armstrong]

Two wrongs don't make a right. You know, she wronged me, but I don't want to wrong her. That was her opinion.

[Joe Getty]

She.

[Jack Armstrong]

But she's the one that put it on Facebook, you know, But I. I really wouldn't want to see her. Somebody lose their job over it.

[Joe Getty]

Wow. You know nothing about clapping back.

That's a very kind and decent thing. And you. You have not wronged her, Gene, and you will not wrong her. It's everybody else that wants to wrong her.

And then in the way that the modern world works, somebody started to go fund me for the old lady who was wearing the Charlie Kirk T shirt to raise money for her. Where are we on that?

Because of her financial losses. Oh, wait, wait, no, there weren't any.

Yeah, where are we on that, Katie?

[Katie Green]

I believe we're at $127,000.

[Jack Armstrong]

There you go.

[Joe Getty]

That is so interesting. It's like one of those raffles where you get to pick which prizes you like the best, and you put your ticket in front of the golf clubs, but not in front of the potpourri, because you don't want that. Well, America with the GoFundMe just like, puts their dollars in the jar of whoever they like the best or think is on the right side of something. It's an interesting impulse. Let's make her at least momentarily wealthy.

So this nice old woman working at Target because some ass clown comes and says some rude things now probably is more cash flush than she's ever been in her life.

Yeah. Right now you could make the argument that it's praise. It's a tip, if you will, for her restraint, her kindness, and her good manners.

Rewarding good behavior, punishing bad behavior. That's the whole thing, really. And by the way, if you had some nice old black woman wearing a BLM T shirt and some right winger came along and said, are you effing stupid? Black Lives Matter, blah, blah, blah, I would feel exactly the same way. Exactly.

And it's worth noting that the nation's media would have this on their front page for a week.

True. That's a very good point.

Yeah. Yeah. Some nice old lady who leans right being verbally accosted by a vicious younger person doesn't get a breath of. Of attention in the mainstream media. But we're used to that.

These are weird times to live in. Yeah.

Not A fan.

So her company, the awful human being that is the woman dropping f bombs and complaining, she hasn't lost her job yet. Her company hasn't fired her.

[Katie Green]

They haven't.

[Joe Getty]

Of course, that might just be the difficulty of firing anybody in California. They don't want to deal with the lawsuits and all that sort of stuff. Might just be that if it were, if it were like the olden days or different states where you could think, I hate her, what a jerk, let's get rid of her. They probably would have.

[Katie Green]

Yeah. The company released a statement, I can't remember if it was on Instagram or Facebook, basically saying, we're aware of the video, we don't condone our employees actions and there's a further investigation or you.

[Joe Getty]

Know, the corporate, please stop calling us. Yeah, they said because our. Yeah, yeah. Because our patients can't get through.

[Katie Green]

Yeah, that was it.

[Joe Getty]

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It reminds me, I saw a thing. Jay Moore, the comedian I saw an Instagram thing on him yesterday is talking about getting married and people always say, you know, you got to find somebody you got stuff in common with. And he says that's crap. Which I also kind of think true. A lot of my best friends, we have very little in common with like music and movies and all that sort of stuff and restaurants, stuff like that. But we're best friends for all kinds of different, deeper reasons. But he said, you know who you need to be married to, that you have the things you hate in common. That's the important thing. When you get married, you hate the same sort of stuff. That might be very true. It might actually be true.

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[Katie Green]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

Hugh Jass donated some money. I like that. That's a classic.

Thank you, Mr. Jazz. Thank you.

You raising money for Scouts this week? I've been talking since my son joined the Boy Scouts back last spring or whatever. That's one of the most impressive things I've ever seen. It's the best thing that's happened in his life. I've talked to other dads and his Scout group and what it's done for their kids, seeing them mature and learn patriotism and the flag ceremony and saying the Pledge of Allegiance and just all this different good stuff that I like about Scouting and we can talk more about a little bit later. And the idea is it costs a couple hundred bucks definitely per family, get the uniform and all the different fees and everything like that to sign up. And not everybody can afford it. So we're raising money that then the Scouts could say to a family, hey, we'll cover it and your kid can be in Scouting, which sounds pretty dang nice.

Yeah, we want every kid, no matter their financial status, to be able to enjoy the benefits of Scouting.

So the more money we raise, the more kids we can get into Scouting. Go to Armstrong and getty.com to give. So we're currently at about 110,000. Doll would love to hit 150 by the end of the show today at about $110,000. So here's what we've got planned now later in the show. Joe is going to play the trombone and I'm going to play the violin.

[Jack Armstrong]

Correct?

[Joe Getty]

Yes. Christmas songs playing beloved Christmas classics.

I don't actually play the violin and.

I haven't picked up my trombone since last year and we have no music. But I'm sure as musicians we can figure it out and play it by ear. So stay tuned.

And the idea will we'll play songs and it'll sound horrible and we are not stop until you raise a certain amount of money. And that's what we're going to do here with Katie Green. Except she's not going to play an instrument. She is just going to read from the licensing agreement from. From a variety of different things. That thing that you check I agree on without actually reading.

Right, Right. Because you know they're going to steal your data and your money but it's too painful to read.

And this we're going to do to ratchet it up. Not that it's not boring and annoying enough just to hear her read it. She's going to start adopting different voices like Valley Girl Up Talk screeching as we go along to make it more and more intolerable as the minutes go by. So I think we we do with a little mini goal of $5,000. We're 110 until we get to 115. It's going to be Katie Green.

[Katie Green]

Go the Netflix materials license agreement. We're starting off normal.

[Joe Getty]

Wow.

[Katie Green]

By downloading or otherwise receiving from Netflix the Netflix artwork, images, graphics, photographs, clips, video.

[Joe Getty]

Whoever thinks no, just keep going. I'm just speaking going.

Yeah, you just keep reading.

Keep going.

You just keep reading.

Just keep going.

[Katie Green]

Photographs, clips, video, audio.

[Joe Getty]

For a second about downloading the Netflix.

[Katie Green]

Or content available on the Netflix brand site.

[Joe Getty]

Imagine if one human being in the world reads these.

[Katie Green]

Agree to be bound by the following terms and conditions. And here comes the vocal fry.

[Joe Getty]

Okay.

[Katie Green]

And some up speak you like Agree to comply brand asset terms. And I imagine it would be and it turns set forth on the Netflix brand are a California girl as long as you do so. And provided you are a Netflix prowling.

[Joe Getty]

Right off of my car.

[Katie Green]

Netflix Inc. And it's a affiliate that's hard to take.

[Joe Getty]

There you go. Little fake low pitch worldwide money is.

Coming in 100 or 200 or $500 or $25 at a time.

[Katie Green]

License to use Netflix material halfway there already as approved by Netflix.

[Joe Getty]

We got about 2,500 bucks. We need another 2,500 bucks to make this stop.

[Katie Green]

Now the high pitch the Netflix materials.

[Joe Getty]

Are owned by Netflix and affiliated companies.

Are licen hit by the right, then the left.

Intellectual property or otherwise. Yes, materials at all uses that. The money is coming in. We get some text from people who saying it's clogged up. They can't donate, which I appreciate of.

[Katie Green]

Netflix or its designs.

[Joe Getty]

You know, we could have you do sex kitten kd, but I'm afraid we'd get a million dollars in stalkers objectionable.

To netflix.com if you want to donate Netflix. We're very close to getting the $5,000 that we needed to terminate or modify your permission.

I imagine this would be bad. This is far worse than I thought.

Just one more. One more good donation. We'll be there.

This one's painful.

Intellectual problem.

All right, all right, all right, all right, all right.

[Jack Armstrong]

God.

[Joe Getty]

We've got. We're there.

We're there. We're there. We're there. We made it. We made it.

[Katie Green]

We made it.

[Jack Armstrong]

We made it.

[Joe Getty]

Wait a minute. She didn't even get to food in mouth. I ain't got food. Mal.

[Katie Green]

Something like this.

[Joe Getty]

I'm glad we stopped. I would have had to leave the room for food. I know.

That's why I wanted to hear it because it would make you sick.

I can't listen to someone talk and eat. I just.

[Katie Green]

Hey, guys. That was a lot of fun.

[Joe Getty]

Thank you. That's a good idea. Wow. We got to do that next year. Just right off the bat, somebody talking while they eat. Maybe soup. Maybe having a bowl of soup while they talk. Thanks for going to Armstrong and getty.com. we'll hit you with a total a little bit later because I know it's hard for the Internet to keep up with the donations when they start coming in really fast like that. That's fantastic.

Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to think what the. Go ahead.

The gravel in Gavin Newsom's voice donated 25 bucks. Appreciate that. I hate monopoly for 25 bucks. What is this, the olden days? A hundred dollars? A lot of different versions of the F effy Olikan party, which Joe invented.

Oh, yes, yes.

A lot of donations. Badass crazy for $25. But anyway, we'll head total a little bit later and really appreciate it. And it's particularly the scouts and society appreciate it. So go to armstrongandgetti.com Katie, when you.

[Katie Green]

Hit that high pitched voice, it looks.

[Joe Getty]

Like the money really started to flow in at work.

[Katie Green]

I hope so.

[Joe Getty]

That definitely works.

That was oddly painful. Yeah. Hey, you know what I'd like to get to next Hour is. We talked about the, the concept of dynamic pricing.

Oh boy. Yeah. That's so interesting.

Your fast food burgers more expensive at lunchtime. Well, it's way, way more sophisticated and some might say insidious than that. Instantly being able to change the price not only based on when you're buying, but who is doing the buying.

Well, insidious usually has negative connotations on it. I don't, I don't know if I have any problem with this. I don't, it's, it's not going to benefit me certainly. But now that the technology exists, how do you, how do you convince a retailer they shouldn't do this?

Right.

Why wouldn't you? On every single item you sell, you do basically a negotiation which eat with each and every customer.

It makes perfect sense from a free market perspective. I think it would probably be good if our friends knew what was happening.

Oh yeah. The fact that you might get charged more for an airline ticket because the airline company has enough of your data to know you can afford a little more. That's troubling.

Well, I've got an example where people are getting charged. What would that be about almost 20% more for a jar of peanut butter based on who they are. Wow. Oh, yeah. It's all, it's, it's down to that sort of product. Jack will pay $3.59 for a jar of peanut butter. Hit them hard.

And then I wonder about all the different ways to try to get around this with different logins or having your know your poor neighbor buy stuff, right? I don't know.

What if you miss poor Jim? Do me a favor, would you?

[Jack Armstrong]

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[Joe Getty]

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[Katie Green]

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[Jack Armstrong]

Easy today 10 athletes will face the toughest job interview in fitness that will push past physical and mental breaking points. You are the fittest of the fit. Only one of you will leave here with an IFIT contract for $250,000.

[Joe Getty]

This is what when mindset comes in.

[Jack Armstrong]

Someone will be eliminated.

[Joe Getty]

Pressure is coming down. Trainer Games on Prime Video January 8th. Watch the trailer on trainergames.com Season 2.

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[Katie Green]

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