You Should Be In A Room Made Of Rubber With No Door Handles

Summary

Armstrong & Getty On Demand

Episode: “You Should Be In A Room Made Of Rubber With No Door Handles”

Date: January 20, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty

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Episode Overview

This episode delves into the consequences of progressive policy in American cities, the mental health implications of political guilt, the rise of socialist governance in Portland, the aftermath of Iran’s governmental crackdown, and a spirited discussion about artificial intelligence threatening the American dream, work, and traditional concepts of value. Along the way, Jack and Joe provide their signature satirical commentary, take potshots at cultural trends, and poke at the absurdities of modern life.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Airlines, Weight-Loss Drugs, and Economic Irony

(02:39)

• Jack begins with a joke about a new study on US airlines saving fuel due to weight-loss drugs and then riffs that airlines also save money by “not taking off.”
• They discuss the concept of lighter passengers lowering airline fuel costs, and the hosts riff humorously on “lighter carcasses.”

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2. AI and the Possible Death of the American Dream

(03:34, 09:41, 32:56, 34:00)

• Joe brings up a Wall Street Journal article suggesting that Silicon Valley insiders believe AI may end the need to “work to get ahead,” making the American dream obsolete.

  “They think the American dream is going to go away because AI is going to be so productive. There’s no reason to work to get — we’re all going to have as much of everything we need and then we won’t be needed anyway. And what is life going to be then?” — Joe, (03:50)

• Jack expresses horror, recounts his frustrating attempts to use ChatGPT, running into moderation blocks due to “dangerous” topics like tyranny, oppression, and corruption.

  "I spent the entire weekend fighting it and it sucks." — Jack, (04:06) “If it was a human being I would have fired it or murdered it and I’m not sure which — Kiefer Sutherland” — Jack, (30:42)

• Notable discussion about the AI alignment problem, loss of jobs, universal basic income, and what people would do in a world without scarcity:

  “If you don’t have a scarcity of resources, it’s not clear what the purpose of money is.” — Joe, (36:18) “Human beings in much of the world will become very different beasts doing very different things. The global population might decline to 800 million of the sort of people who are emotionally suited to whatever that life looks like.” — Jack, (38:26)

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3. Progressive Guilt, Portland’s Left, and the Limits of Empathy

(04:30, 05:19, 06:00, 09:06)

• Jack plays audio of a progressive white woman from Minneapolis so wracked with “white tears” and privilege guilt that she feels bad about feeling sad when another middle-aged white woman is shot.

  “She should be in a room made of rubber with no door handles.” — Joe, (05:37)

• The hosts argue that this level of progressive guilt is “crazy” and mentally unhealthy.
• Discussion transitions to Portland’s far-left city council, permissive policies on homelessness and drugs:

  "They quite literally are giving tents to people who want to be junkies on the streets of Portland." — Jack, (07:11)

• The exodus of high earners, rampant vagrancy, and local liberal disaffection:

  “I think there’s a lot of liberals in Portland who are this way now.” — Jack, (08:17)

• Jack explains the left’s extreme aversion to criticizing their own side:

  “They’re super uncomfortable with [borders, judgments, rules]. For an activist to criticize the lunacy … they can’t criticize each other.” — Jack, (09:41)

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4. Contrasting Policy Approaches: Florida vs. California, New York

(12:19)

• Discussion about insurance reform in Florida: By cracking down on fraud and “taking on the plaintiff attorney lobby,” Florida allegedly fixed a once-broken insurance system.
• California and New York are portrayed as unable to reform due to “no fault” insurance systems and entrenched special interests.
• A striking stat on insurance fraud:

  "New York’s largest insurer for taxi and rideshare drivers—60–70% of the claims processed each year were fraudulent. But the lawyers got rich." — Jack, (14:10)

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5. Iran’s Uprising and Brutal Crackdown

(20:01)

• Joe covers recent reports on the Iranian government’s forceful suppression of protests, with claims of mass casualties.

  “Iranian doctors say at least 16,500 people have been killed as of Saturday ... between 16,500-18,000 people have been killed. That's a lot. This is a whole new level of brutality.” — Joe, (21:06)

• Details of injuries, regime snipers, and possibilities of further US action are discussed with grim solemnity.

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6. AI — Frustrations and Philosophical Worries

(23:23, 31:32)

• Jack details his struggles with ChatGPT’s content filters while researching topics like tyranny and corruption.
  • The hosts riff on the technical and ethical limitations of current AI models.
• Discussion about Ben Affleck's thoughts on AI stalling in progress:

  “He got in on the like whole ChatGPT had increased its productivity this percentage but ... it’s really flatlined on the curve ... all this may have peaked a while ago for now.” — Joe, (31:32)

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7. AI, Universal Basic Income, and Human Purpose

(32:56, 34:00, 37:18)

• They walk through a Wall Street Journal piece and tech leader quotes about the end of work, universal basic income, and the loss of agency and purpose.
• Sam Altman of OpenAI doubts the psychological wisdom of a world without meaningful activity:

  “If you just say, OK, AI is going to do everything, and then everybody gets a dividend ... it’s not going to feel good and I don’t think it actually will be good for people.” — Sam Altman (quoted by Joe, 34:18)

• Jack notes every major human philosophy values purposeful work:

  “Every single one of them values hard work and having a purpose.” — Jack, (39:38)

• The hosts both worry that a work-less utopia would actually be a social (and personal) disaster.

  “...the idea of nobody having a job or needing to work…that’s going to be the whole world.” — Joe, (37:52)

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8. Sports and Cultural Absurdities

(43:22)

• Joe lauds Indiana Hoosiers’ football championship as “one of the great sports stories in the history of sports.” Jack pushes back, noting college football’s transformation into a pro-level, NIL-driven entity where the student-athlete is a fiction:

  “He’s a professional football player who does not ever go to class. In fact, hasn’t registered for a class.” — Jack, (44:32)

• Blending this with further generational, cultural shifts and the emergence of AI-generated art.
  • Features an oddball story about a student eating AI-generated artwork in protest.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |---|---|---| | 05:37 | Joe Getty | “You should be in a room made of rubber with no door handles.” | | 07:11 | Jack Armstrong | “They quite literally are giving tents to people who want to be junkies on the streets of Portland.” | | 09:41 | Jack Armstrong | “[Progressives] can’t criticize each other. It’s so uncomfortable for them in a way that we literally can’t even picture.” | | 14:10 | Jack Armstrong | “New York’s largest insurer for taxi and rideshare drivers—60–70% of the claims processed each year were fraudulent. But the lawyers got rich.” | | 21:06 | Joe Getty | “Iranian doctors say at least 16,500 people have been killed ... a whole new level of brutality.” | | 30:42 | Jack Armstrong | “If it was a human being I would have fired it or murdered it — and I'm not sure which, Kiefer Sutherland.” | | 34:18 | Joe Getty quoting Sam Altman | “If you just say, OK, AI is going to do everything, and then everybody gets a dividend ...it’s not going to feel good and I don’t think it actually will be good for people.” | | 36:18 | Joe Getty | “If you don’t have a scarcity of resources, it’s not clear what the purpose of money is.” | | 37:51 | Joe Getty | “...that’s going to be the whole world.” (on welfare mindset going global) | | 38:26 | Jack Armstrong | “Human beings in much of the world will become very different beasts doing very different things. The global population might decline to 800 million of the sort... suited to whatever that life looks like.” | | 39:38 | Jack Armstrong | “Every single one of them values hard work and having a purpose.” | | 44:32 | Jack Armstrong | “He’s a professional football player who does not ever go to class. In fact, hasn’t registered for a class.” |

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Airlines and Weight-Loss Drugs: 02:39–03:20
• AI & The Threat to Work: 03:34–04:06, 32:56–34:00
• Progressive Guilt & Minneapolis Audio: 04:30–05:37
• Portland’s Progressive Crisis: 06:00–09:06
• Florida Insurance Reform: 12:19–14:10
• Iran’s Crackdown: 20:01–23:09
• Jack’s ChatGPT Frustration: 23:23–31:11
• AI Philosophy & Utopia: 34:00–39:38
• College Sports & Cultural Shift: 43:22–46:10

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Overall Tone & Style

The hosts oscillate between sardonic wit, exasperated social commentary, and philosophical musing. They balance skepticism toward cultural “insanity” on both political extremes and express genuine worry about unintended consequences from both progressive policies and tech-driven societal transformation.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode:

This episode features Armstrong & Getty at their wry, combative best — lampooning progressive guilt, critiquing permissive urban policies, registering alarm over Iran’s bloody repression, and exploring how AI could unravel the meaning of work and money. Anchored with humor and sharp observation, it’s as much a social lament as a news digest. If you ponder where American politics, work culture, and sanity itself may be headed, this is a can’t-miss listen.

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Note: Ad breaks and sponsor segments have been omitted from this summary.

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Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong and Getty. And finally, a new study found that major US airlines could save $580 million a year on fuel thanks to weight lost drugs. That's on top of the other 500 million they save in fuel by not taking off.

[Joe Getty]

That is amazing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yes, it is. Wow.

[Joe Getty]

They'll just have to haul lighter cargo because people won't be so heavy.

[Jack Armstrong]

Lighter carcasses.

[Joe Getty]

Who thought of that, By the way? They keep showing that play from the game last night. That was fourth down. They went for it twice on fourth down in a low scoring game.

[Jack Armstrong]

That drive was five. In that case. Yeah, that was something.

[Joe Getty]

Could have. Anyway, want to talk later about this article in the Wall Street Journal over the weekend that really got my attention. Silicon Valley thinks the American dream is going to go away. And when I saw that, I thought, okay, hippies who don't believe in the.

[Jack Armstrong]

American dream, blah, blah.

[Joe Getty]

No, they think the American dream is going to go away because AI is going to be so productive. There's no reason to work to get. We're all going to have as much of everything we need and then we.

[Jack Armstrong]

Won'T be needed anyway.

[Joe Getty]

And what is life going to be then? It's pretty fascinating. And more on that later.

[Jack Armstrong]

Saw that too, and horrifying. Also, in a related story, AI is not going to take your job quite yet as I spent the entire weekend fighting it and it sucks. So that. But first, fighting it and it sucks. Getting back to hippies, here is the practical and reasonable thinking of America's progressives as embodied by a lefty woman in Minneapolis.

[Minneapolis Progressive Woman]

So I mean, I'm just walking around kind of just dayside because I, I got, I was like, I don't know if it's the right thing to do. It feels kind of wrong being here in some way.

[Jack Armstrong]

I don't know.

[Joe Getty]

Why?

[Jack Armstrong]

Why, why do you think?

[Minneapolis Progressive Woman]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, like where that stems from. Like, I don't. I mean, part of it is being like a white woman that I'm privileged and I have a lot of. So I feel like white tears are not always something that's helpful or necessary when black and brown people have been experiencing this.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Minneapolis Progressive Woman]

For a long time. This isn't new for them. And so I don't know if that makes any sense in that way.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, no. Thank you for asking. So one middle aged white lady, how.

[Joe Getty]

Crazy is that sad?

[Jack Armstrong]

Because a different middle aged white lady got shot and is wandering around, wandering around, wondering if she's allowed to be sad because something, something bracket black and brown people and she has white tears and she has privilege. These people are cuckoo nuts. They're actually in charge of anything.

[Joe Getty]

They're actually mentally ill. That woman is in tears and great emotional turmoil over guilt for feeling bad that somebody got shot because she's white. You're crazy. You're completely crazy. You should be in a room made of rubber with no door handles. Right.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, Dennis Neil, who's a commentator and writer, visited Portland recently. New York, not the only place where socialism is on the rise. It's not getting a lot of attention. We've talked about it a little bit here. But in November, Oregon's largest city, Portland obviously formed a new city council, elected four members of the Democratic Socialists of America, Mumdani's party that believes in essentially tearing down Western civilization and building a Marxist utopia. So these four dominate the 12 person council with the help of two progressive democrats. And they're driving the city in a dangerous direction at the worst time. As Dennis points out, Oregon is struggling with self inflicted ills, from rampant vagrancy to an exodus of high earners. Even before that, a September poll found that 2/3 of Oregonians believe their economy is pretty seriously off on the wrong track. And he says I saw firsthand during a week long visit in November, the city's reeling from a series of growth killers, high taxes, union contracts and unaccountable government. Surging vagrancy, drug addiction. Walk through downtown, you'll see a raft of vacant storefronts and empty office buildings riddled with graffiti. Local officials estimate the metropolitan area is losing a billion dollars year as high earners flee. In Portland, he writes, I drove past an open air drug market where fentanyl pills are so common that their cost is three for a dollar. I spotted hundreds of tents and tarps on sidewalks, building entrances, parks, highway underpasses. Many of these makeshift shelters likely came from the county government, which has issued thousands since the pandemic and only last year started to limit its tent distribution. They quite literally are giving tents to people who want to be junkies on the streets of Portland. This city also allows organizations to hand out clean needles, syringes and crack pipes. City cleaning crews stage occasional sweeps to throw away all the garbage. But More tents and tarps soon pop up and many locals describe the state as a victim of its own self inflicted policy areas. Anybody who's any sense does. Dan Levy, a Republican strategist, told me he used to be viewed as a rhino Republican in name only, he says, but these days I sound like Rush Limbaugh. I feel like a reactionary conservative in a way I never was. I think there's a lot of liberals in Portland who are this way now.

[Joe Getty]

It happens eventually like it did in San Francisco.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, you've got Democrats who. This one hosts a podcast, Rational in Portland. Worked downtown for two decades until she was assaulted last year while walking from her car to her office building. Never returned, moved to new space elsewhere. You got the Black Lives Matter riots damaged, ravaged the city in 2020. And this gal, the podcaster points out, Portlanders are left of the Democratic Party, which as a Democrat just blows my mind because to me the Democratic Party is insane. It is progressive insanity. And we're left of that. How far will it go?

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, well, you'd have to be talking about people that are still sane, like that woman we heard from. You can't be counting on that person to ever decide enough is enough. That's crazy. That is so crazy. Why isn't that called out by more like mainstream people is. Oh, that's nuts. Let's. Here we have, we have, we have a psychiatrist on the ABC Evening News tonight to explain why anybody would ever have that incredibly nutso opinion that they should feel guilty about being upset about somebody being shot because they're white.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, that, that gets back to something we talked about an hour or two ago and I've been reading about it. Super crazy. Interesting. I'm going to reread it and really, you know, drive it into my brain because it's so important about how people on the left tend to really dislike borders of any sort. Divisions, judgments, rules enforcing rules. They're super uncomfortable with it. So for an activist, you know, whatever, I'm pro illegal immigrant, to criticize the lunacy of the. I want to give needles and tents to junkies so they can have as easy and comfortable a life being a junkie as possible. They can't criticize each other. It's so uncomfortable for them in a way that we literally can't even picture. We can't feel it because our brains are made differently. Uh, anyway, so they don't, Uh, a follow up article to that Ron DeSantis, remember him? He's doing such a bang up job in Florida. Everybody should know it the press doesn't cover it because they're super uncomfortable with it. But the the Florida miracle. In a moment, after a word from our friends, our new friends, a new.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Oh my God. Oh my. Would somebody please have a child. Florida is doing an unbelievable job in insurance reform. It's a huge bipartisan cause in Florida because you know, speaking of Portlandia and its problems, insurance rates, both homeowners and car insurance got to be such a problem in Florida. All the politicians overcame their bull ass getting bribed by lobby stuff and said yeah, we gotta solve this problem. Here's the one reason it's not gonna happen in Cal Unicornia. It might happen in New York is one of the main things they did was they took on the plaintiff attorney lobby. Because the Sunshine State enacted a package of legal reforms in the last couple of years that clamped down on no fault insurance claims and all the wild fraudulent claims. In 2021, Florida insurers faced claims of $7.8 billion in damages. 7.8. That was more than. That was triple what the other 49 states combined had. And so let's see, how do I summarize this quickly because we don't have a lot of time. Crime syndicates and plaintiff's attorneys have been raiding New York insurers by employed in the state's no fault rules, blah, blah, blah. Very similar to California. The sit situation. The no fault system has been an invitation for fraud. Injuries are often faked or exaggerated. Unethical doctors build insurance bill insurers for expensive and unnecessary treatments. And Florida cracked down on all this stuff and it's been miraculously effective. Policy matters. Policy matters a lot, obvs.

[Joe Getty]

Well, not obvious to a lot of people.

[Jack Armstrong]

At one point, American Transit Insurance Company, the New York State largest insurer for four hire, taxi and rideshare drivers, estimating an astonishing 60 to 70% of the claims that processed each year were fraudulent. 60 to 70%. But the lawyers got rich.

[Joe Getty]

So I was really working hard today on not having too much serious stuff. Really, really, really wanting to work hard on that. But I also really, really want to tell you what the current numbers are in Iran. Cause they're stunning. If these organizations are correct. Oh, what happened last week. I also don't know where that leaves the whole Donald Trump saying to protesters, you know, take them on, come out onto the streets, we've got your back. Ooh, that came and went. The moment is passed, I think.

[Jack Armstrong]

Is the Abe Lincoln still steaming its way?

[Joe Getty]

I don't know that.

[Jack Armstrong]

I'll check back from Venezuela.

[Joe Getty]

I'll have to check open source, but so we'll get to that and a bunch of other things. Is AI going to make us all miserable?

[Jack Armstrong]

Probably.

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[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah. I'm surprised. I think they're having a custody hearing today, you know? No. Nobody knows what sexual kinks lurk in. In people's hearts, but the idea that he would victimize a child is so incredibly out of character for Tim and his wife. Her defense, Melissa Gilbert.

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I didn't realize he was married to Laura Ingalls Wilder.

[Jack Armstrong]

As the. As the most morally. What did she call him? I can't remember. But a person with the firmest and clearest moral code of anybody she's ever known. It would be very, very, very surprising. And then it turns out these people might be grifters, con people. Let's. Let's let this play out as it should. And.

[Joe Getty]

And what sucks, of course, is he could be completely exonerated today. The woman could confess.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

But in a certain percentage of people's mind, his. His name will be attached to that forever.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, that's correct. It's horrifying. It's a horrifying thing to do, to falsely accuse somebody of a horrendous crime like that. If indeed that's what. Well, no, what I said is true, no matter what's going on here. But if. If that's what's going on here, it's a horrible example of it.

[Joe Getty]

So, biggest uprising in Iran since the revolution in 79. Trump gets behind it. Says, take to the streets, take on your institutions. Take down the names of the people abusing you, because there's going to be a price to pay. We've got your back. It looks like the government brought in Iranian soldiers from Iraq, like hardened soldiers. End all the towns and started shooting people like crazy with the Internet and the cell phone service. Turned off, slaughtered thousands of people and have put down the uprising. We never came to their rescue. I don't know where that stands currently. It's horrifying. But here's the latest report Iranian doctors and you have to take everything with a grain of salt because everybody has, you know, a political reason to exaggerate. This is pretty good stuff here, though, and I certainly believe it. Iranian doctors say at least 16,500 people have been killed. This was as of Saturday. It might be higher now, 330,000 more injured.

[Jack Armstrong]

Holy crap.

[Joe Getty]

How did they come up with these numbers? Detailed in a new report from doctors on the ground treating victims of the slaughter. According to the Sunday Times, the disturbing figures compiled from eight major hospitals and 16 emergency departments revealed between 16,518, 000 people have been killed. That's a lot. This is a whole new level of brutality, professor Amir Parasta, an Iranian German eye surgeon, said, who spoke to the outlet. Wait for the details on the eyes. Who spoke on behalf of dozens of medical professionals in Tehran in 2022. They were using rubber bullets and pellet guns, taking out eyes. This time they're using military grade weapons. And, and what we are seeing are gunshot and shrapnel wounds in the head, neck and chest. I don't know if you saw any of the videos that came out over the weekend where people are in the street and then you just start hearing shots. There are snipers up in the buildings and they just started shooting people in the head. Yeah, until enough people go down that everybody runs off. I've spoken to dozens of doctors on the ground and they are really shocked and crying. These are surgeons who have seen war. Another 300,000 to 360,000 have been injured, including children and pregnant women. According to the report, at least a thousand people have lost an eye, with one hospital in Tehran reporting 7,000 eye injuries. There are so many shotgun related eye injuries that we don't know who to treat first, said one ophthalmologist. The protests, which exploded and then goes through the history of the story, regime, is answered with overwhelming force. One person who fled Iran told the outlet that the Republican Guard sprayed everyone with gunfire one night and were calmly trying to aim for people's heads. Snipers on rooftops for shooting people in the back of the head, another person recalled.

[Jack Armstrong]

Boy, and that's the Republican Guard. Which is the next player up. If the mullahs take a powder, as it's being suggested that they've routed millions and millions of dollars to foreign banks that they can access from their new home, wherever that turns out to be, then the Republican Guard leadership moves in. They're monsters.

[Joe Getty]

Are we still going to strike the leadership of Iran because they're weak and because Trump said if you do this, you're going to pay a price or.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think it's possible, yeah.

[Joe Getty]

You think so?

[Jack Armstrong]

We didn't have enough assets to protect our guys in the region if things got hot, so he's moving some back.

[Joe Getty]

Well, that could happen this week. That's jazzy. At least we'll have Greenland. More on that later and a bunch.

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Lenovo new reporting here After Kiefer Sutherland's arrest, law enforcement sources tell ABC News, the Uber driver claimed that Sutherland punched.

[Joe Getty]

Him multiple times and tried to choke him.

[Jack Armstrong]

The driver did not need medical treatment. The sources say it appeared to officers on the scene that Sutherland was under the influence. Sutherland was arrested on suspicion of making.

[Joe Getty]

Criminal threats if he actually punched repeatedly an Uber driver and threatened to kill him because the guy wouldn't drop him off where he wanted to drop him off, like it was right in the middle of the highway. He's a complete lunatic. Yeah, that's if that happened.

[Jack Armstrong]

No, or. Or he's an angry drunk. One of those people who has a couple of drinks and goes dark.

[Joe Getty]

Well, he's always been that. But oh yeah, you know, it's always possible though, of course, that an Uber driver thought, hey, he's rich and famous. I'll claim something and see if I can get a little money out of it. That's always possible too.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, it is indeed. I just, I'm blessed, I guess. I have a couple of drinks, I'm gonna invite the Uber guy in to have another drink and, you know, and hang out.

[Joe Getty]

Back when I drank face, I was always thought, I'm an angry sober, I'm a happy drunk.

[Jack Armstrong]

Right? Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

You don't want to catch me after I've had a couple of not drinks, couple of days of sobriety. So AI is not coming for your job quite yet. It will soon. More on that in a minute. But I was, I was trying to enlist CHAT GPT in this case to help me with a project and specifically I was asking it to compile a list of a particular sort of thoughts, quotes, passages, et cetera on a certain principle. I was researching something I'm working on writing and, and it was, it went lovely there for a while. I mean, like really great. I was thinking, this is the best thing in the world. And all of a sudden, in the middle of it, it stops chat. Here's a Red, red print. Chat GP isn't designed to provide this type of content. Read the model spec for more on how Chat GPT handles creators content. And I would. I had upgraded to the the paid version too. So I was thinking, what the heck's going on? I asked it, midway through your list, I got a message saying, blah, blah, blah, what I just said, short answer, you didn't do anything wrong. And neither did the content itself. What you ran into was almost certainly a false positive. Moderation interruption, not a real pro. And here's what likely happened in plain terms. And it goes in the description that too many of the things I was wanting deal with concepts like tyranny, oppression, violence, power, corruption, war, coercion, et cetera. And so apparently chatgpt, while it was helping me, its big brother or its uncle, I don't know, how do computers work? Said, whoa, whoa, I think this guy wants to violently overthrow the government or something. And I said, well, plainly, I'm just doing what I'm doing. You know what I'm doing. I explained what I'm doing and it said, you know what, you're right, you're, I'm reading now why your request is actually allowed. Your request is scare squarely in the allowed category. And then it explains for like paragraphs why what I'm doing is perfectly fine. Here's how we avoid it happening again. Okay, great, continue. Then it happens again 20 seconds later. This happens several times. And finally I say, all right, screw it. It offered me like a half assed weak tea version of what I was looking for.

[Joe Getty]

Did it also like a Taco Bell coupon or anything like that for the trouble?

[Jack Armstrong]

No, that would have helped that, you know what, that would have been appropriate. Listen, we understand this hasn't gone to your expectations. Can we pick up the tab for dessert? I mean, that sort of thing. Okay, so I finally, I accept the weak tea version of it, thinking, all right, I'm gonna have to do a bunch of research, but this is giving me a headache. And I say, okay, you know, we've been going back and forth with these stupid interruptions and explanations and instructions and everything. Can you just give me the list we came up with now, Clean? And it said, yeah, of course I can, of course, buddy, after all the trouble I put you through, that's the least I can do. Here we go. And five seconds later it's like, sorry, we can't do this for that reason. That reason, that reason, they were entirely technical. And then it went on to. I said, all right, give me Something Can I download? Can I do something? Yes. Here's how you download it. And of course it was instructions Go to Word. Then under. Under file click on Insert. Then you'll see this symbol. Of course that symbol isn't there. It probably hasn't been in Word for the last five years. And so it was. If it would. If it was a human being I would have fired it or murdered it and I'm not sure which key for Sutherland.

[Joe Getty]

Well, did you try any of the other chat bots? Because this morning we were talking about MLK Jr and some files that are going to be released and I asked, I think I asked Grok and I didn't know what I was talking about. I copied and pasted the same question to chat GPT and got what I wanted. I use four different of them because sometimes one of them craps out some of them. Sometimes one of them like has never heard of the movie I asked about and then the other one gives me all the information. It's weird.

[Jack Armstrong]

Given the nightmarishness of bout number one I really wasn't in the mood to try it again. I'm just. You know what I'm doing? I'm going into the. The original hugely long document full of all the crap copying and pasting the good part to a Word document.

[Joe Getty]

Did you see the thing I tweeted out about Ben Affleck talking about AI and it's.

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[Jack Armstrong]

I didn't watch it though.

[Joe Getty]

It's really interesting. He's. He's talking about creatively and in Hollywood and that sort of stuff. Ben Affleck came off as like way freaking smarter than I realized it was. He's done all kinds of research.

[Jack Armstrong]

I always forget what a good writer he is. He's all kind of research, kind of a dimwit, doesn't he?

[Joe Getty]

But he got in on the like whole chat GPT had increased its productivity this percentage but the. It's really flatlined on the curve and in the last couple iterations of only and it was really detailed and pretty convincing to me that all this may have peaked a little while ago for now. Anywho, getting to this Wall Street Journal story that we wanted to talk about why the tech world thinks the American dream is dying. Let me read a little of this. It's really interesting. Silicon Valley is filled with all sorts of dreams but one of those wild eyed ideas long debated on subreddits and in hacker houses is becoming a real life nightmare. Will the AI boom be the last chance to get rich before artificial Intelligence makes money essentially worthless. That is a hell of a paragraph. The mark the argument is that tech companies and their leaders will become a class unto their own with infinite wealth. No one else will have the means to generate money for themselves because a y AI will have taken their jobs and opportunities. In other words, the bridge is about to be raised for those chasing the American dream and everyone is worried about being left on the wrong side of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

So the tech giants and their people will have all of the money and dole it out as they see fit.

[Joe Getty]

Well, I've wondered about that for a long time. Get to that in a second. It's made more believable, this idea by the exploits of Elon Musk, the rise of open eyes San Altman, and warnings by anthropics Dario Amodei. Is that how you pronounce his name about Great Depression? Like worker displacement? Here's what Elon Musk said the other day. The transition will be bumpy. Elon said, we'll have radical change, social unrest and immense prosperity. To just throw out radical change in social unrest, like, you know, what are.

[Jack Armstrong]

You going to do?

[Joe Getty]

You want to make an omelet, you got to break some eggs. Seems pretty crazy to me. The whole dole it out thing, that's what I've wanted for a long time. When various people like Sam Altman say that the GDP is going to be, you know, 20 fold or something like that, okay, who's collecting the money from this great productivity and doling it out? Is that the government? Is it you? Is it? How is this going to work?

[Jack Armstrong]

The collectively, we don't think the government will be run by these super giants who control all of the wealth of the world. We think the government will remain an independent entity that looks out for the little guy. Oh boy.

[Joe Getty]

Sam Altman from OpenAI said, I used to be really excited about UBI. That's Universal Basic income. But I think people really need agency, something to do or feeling like you have some control over your life. They need to feel like they have a voice in governing the future and deciding where things go. He said this last year in a podcast. If you just say, okay, AI is going to do everything, and then everybody gets a dividend from that and plenty of money to live, it's not going to feel good and I don't think it actually will be good for people.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah.

[Joe Getty]

Oh, I'm glad some people are saying that because I think that's not only possible, but 100%, 1,000% likely to be a problem.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, yeah. You have long poo pooed science fiction. Although I am a big fan because it's the whole point of the genre is we get to look at scenarios that seem to be coming down the pike from the future and thinking through what they mean and what to do about them and what's the reality of, you know, life and identity and the purpose of work and that sort of thing. It is easy to envision a really great, you know, Heinlein, Asimov level science fiction story about a civilization that invents something they can't handle and it kills them or ruins them. I mean, it's not even a stretch.

[Joe Getty]

Well, even, even if we don't get into the AI, you know, an alignment problem where AI decides human beings are getting in the way of something or, you know, we don't even have go into that stuff. Just this taking jobs thing on itself is so interesting. Like Elon said about money maybe disappearing if you don't have a scarcity of resources, because that's what Elon says, we're going to have as much energy, housing, food, more than we could ever use for every single person. If you don't have a scarcity of resources, it's not clear what the purpose of money is. He said at a conference. More recently, Musk suggested people shouldn't even worry about saving for retirement. Predicting AI will provide health care and entertainment. It won't matter, he said of retirement savings.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and hang on to mine. Thanks, Elon.

[Joe Getty]

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[Joe Getty]

If money is out, scarce assets like art could become key. Musk has said as much himself. His vision for the future involves robots who handle physical tasks while humanity struggles to keep up with AI thinking, leading to what he calls universal high income UHI and an era of abundance in which money has no meaning. So why say for retirement? Everything's going to be provided for you.

[Jack Armstrong]

Oh boy. How have the previous promises of utopia gone? Mankind.

[Joe Getty]

But the weird part about this is if they're right, it's a disaster. If they're right, it's better if they're wrong. If they're right, it's a disaster. The idea of nobody having a job job or needing to work to have the amount of. We were talking earlier about, you know, all the welfare legislation of the mid-60s and what that did to neighborhoods and stuff like that, that's going to be.

[Jack Armstrong]

Incredible damage it did.

[Joe Getty]

It's going to be the whole world.

[Jack Armstrong]

Wow, that's a good point. Yeah. I tell you what, you're calling it a disaster here is the only neutral to positive spin I can put on it. Human beings in much of the world will become very different beasts doing very different things. The global population might decline to 800 million of the sort of people who are emotionally suited to whatever that life looks like. And they will have some children.

[Joe Getty]

If everybody magically has a house, electricity, food, car, everything. Transportation. You got everything. Clothes, because we're just so pretty.

[Jack Armstrong]

Golf course. Can I have a golf course?

[Joe Getty]

But everybody's got the same amount. That's another interesting wrinkle of this. So I'm a go getter just by nature, but I have the same as everybody else. How happy am I going to be with that? But what do you think the average person is going to do with that lifestyle? The typical person. Average is the wrong word. What's the typical person going to do with that lifestyle? Lifestyle.

[Jack Armstrong]

Eat, drink and drug themselves into a coma.

[Joe Getty]

That's what I think.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yep. Yeah. The masses of people become a fat.

[Joe Getty]

Drunk that knows nothing.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, you know. Why are you looking at me when you say that? Yeah, I don't.

[Joe Getty]

I'll be knocking my hobbies.

[Jack Armstrong]

How did that get into this conversation? Yeah, I. I honestly, I can't come up with an alternative vision. If you look at the common principles of all the great philosophies that have caught hold in humankind over the last several thousand years, every single one of them values hard work and having a purpose.

[Joe Getty]

So I guess my final question would be why do. And I think I know the answer to this. I'll answer my own question. Why do Elon, Sam, Altman, these various other people, not think it's as obviously true as we do? And I think it's because they're so different from all of us. They can't even imagine that because they're so driven. They're so much more driven than even those of us who are driven that they can't even imagine that not being Utopia.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yeah, I just think it's partly that and partly the same reason people sign up for timeshares. It's a shiny, exciting new thing and they're keyed up about it and they keep inventing arguments for themselves why it's a good idea.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, yeah. I highly recommend anybody watching that Ben Affleck thing about AI and he points out, he said, by the way, they're all pushing how great this is going to be because they need to keep their stock up, which is also a part of this.

[Jack Armstrong]

Yep.

[Joe Getty]

But some football game last night got a highlight from that and other stuff on the way.

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And the celebration begins. Kurt Signetti has led the Indiana Hoosiers to the national championship in one of the great coaching jobs of all time. In one of the great turnarounds in American sports sports history, the Indiana Hoosiers are football national champions.

[Joe Getty]

Yeah, I'm just telling you, I wish I had gotten on this bandwagon earlier and not a bandwagon. This is not a bandwagon like rooting for a team. This is like a story unfolding and I wish I'd have been aware of it earlier. But one of the great sports stories in the history of sports culminated last night in the Indiana Hoosiers winning the national title. And stunning stuff. Got more of it.

[Jack Armstrong]

I disagree. I don't think it's a story at all. Well, it's a small story because sports is no longer what you think it is. For instance, Carson Beck, the quarterback of Miami, made north of $3 million while at Miami this season as a sixth year Red Shirt senior. He told reporters he hasn't gone to a class since 2023. So what were we watching that quarterback.

[Joe Getty]

From Miami last night?

[Jack Armstrong]

He's a professional football player who does not ever go to class. In fact, hasn't registered for a class.

[Joe Getty]

Well, yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

What was that?

[Joe Getty]

I've never assumed these people going to classes. Yeah.

[Jack Armstrong]

Were you living under that illusion about a team that worked really, really hard and was successful? I think that's fine for human beings everywhere. But to, to, to put it in like the pantheon of college football stories and triumphs and all. It's just that it doesn't feel quite right, really.

[Joe Getty]

You're the only one who's saying that. Which is fine. You get to. But you're the only one who's not enjoying the magical ride.

[Jack Armstrong]

Well, I enjoyed the magical ride. Like I said, it's people working really hard to achieve a goal and they achieved it and they're nice folks too, and I'm proud of them. I'm happy for them. But college football is not what college football was. It's just something new, which you might love, but it's. It's different. Anyway, I'm bringing it all together right here. College and AI art. I got no football for you. But a couple of days ago, University of Alaska Fairbanks undergrad student Graham Granger was detained after he'd been found ripping artwork off the walls and eating it in a reported protest. According to the university police department, Granger was chewing, spitting out images that had been pinned to the wall. The artwork was made by Master of Fine Arts student Nick Dwyer in collaboration with artificial intelligence. Granger claimed he destroyed the artwork because it was AI generated, and he's against that.

[Joe Getty]

Okay, so you can have the stance of being against AI generated art.

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[Joe Getty]

You could even go so far as to feel like you need to destroy it now. Why you need to eat it. I don't know why you need to take that next step.

[Jack Armstrong]

I think he's a little artsy himself. He was arrested for criminal mischief in the fifth degree. Oh, it's another one of those. Is it like burns? They get worse as the number gets higher? Or is it like DEF CON where the one is the highest?

[Joe Getty]

I think it's slight. I think this is like we barely care that he ate his roommates already.

[Jack Armstrong]

Interestingly enough, one of the reasons Dwyer the artist made this art is because he had fallen into AI psychosis, which we've talked about. He went too far down the line with chatbots, and so he was making art with AI to illustrate how it can something something, blah, blah, blah.

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